Amorphage - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh

[@lancerguy3667]

I get what they were going for with the maintenance cost. Tributing pendulum monsters during your standby phase meant you were getting rid of their floodgates to start your main phase, and you could just pendulum summon all of them right back when you were ready for them... it's just a pity the monster levels were all over the place, and the scales were way too stingy for a deck that doesn't let you special summon non-archetype things anyway.

[@AvenFallen]

I think the main problem were the scales. The best thing about Pendulum Decks back then was that you did not really run out of ressources as long as you had Pendulum Scales, since your Pendulums went to the Extra Deck. But Amorphage could easily run out of ressources, just because there was no way to bring their used monsters or scales back.

[@windmirror7083]

Yet alone, they could only summon less than half their monsters consistently

[@LucasFleming-lq2ry]

I genuinely think a dracoverlord Link that acts like gilgamesh would be great. Since you'd basically be able to choose. And if the link monster had an effect that if it's tributed it can summon a ritual dracoverlord. Ignoring summoning conditions, that would make amorphage from a f tier deck to a meta contender in 1 card.

[@Bezaliel13]

@@AvenFallen Oh, I get it. You are supposed to use other cards, despite their lockdown, like how they are draconic mutations of nondragons. Pity competitive prefers pure... for some reason.

[@AvenFallen]

@@LucasFleming-lq2ry The question is if someone actually wants that. Because in the end, Amorphage is really floodgate.dek. And I think it speaks for itself when the Deck never got Support after its initial Release, because making it viable would just make the game a lot worse IMO.

[@Wickedred413]

"The Dallas cowboys of the Yu-Gi-Oh world" Damn you didn't have to drop a bar like that

[@OoToxiToxioO]

Cowboys fans catching strays lmao didn't expect that from this channel tbh

[@milehighgambler]

😂😂😂

[@jeremybrown9611]

2nd time Ive seen it so far😂

[@prsuave420]

My favorite part of the video 😂😂 # gobirds

[@FriedGamer]

We’re used to it

[@plabcentral630]

Deserved

[@robertoschirmer5530]

Can't wait for the new Field Spell "Amorphage Sinister Playground", that says "Once per turn if a monster(s) on your side of the field would be tributed or if a card(s) in your Pendulum Zone would be destroyed, you can banish the top card of your deck instead."

[@azurephantom100]

while its not easily searched in amorphage why not lair of darkness tribute the opponent's monsters

[@303Thatoneguy]

I was thinking they would get something that says while this card is on the field you don’t need to tribute for effect but touché 😂. They work well with metaphoes. Popping them causes their continuous spell to activate so you can search all the floodgates easier. But that was back when pendulums were the hottest thing too 😂😂

[@mbrusyda9437]

How does that even work? Say you got Kaiju'd, do you then say "Oh, no, return that monster, banish my top deck instead"?

[@themobilewalrus6269]

​@@azurephantom100 Lair of Darkness does not work with Amorphage because they don't tribute as cost or for an effect its a maintenance upkeep so it doesn't combo with Lair

[@robertoschirmer5530]

@@mbrusyda9437 That's an excellent question I didn't think about while writing my comment. 😂 But I think, you get the general idea of such a card. Maybe it should say "...if *you* would tribute one of your monster(s)..." 😅

[@leojamesquiambao1047]

There are admittedly some decks that, if they were given even a bit of decent support would be very unfun to play against. Amorphage falls into that category. Really glad Konami didn't make this archetype good, playing against floodgate turbo is really frustrating

[@Gwenth]

I think we can all agree that it's a good thing this archetype never took off. And it seems Konami decided to so themselves, because it could've easily been a thing. In fact a lot of the restrictions this Deck has seem purposeful, not only in-lore but also for balance. The Tribute cost means your floodgates get weaker each turn and that your opponent can actually imagine breaking your lock turn 3 or 5. (A quality not many floodgates have, most of them get better each turn.) And the fact you can't Pendulum Summon the most oppressive Amorphages, means you have limited recovery (especially in MR3) and that you have to commit more ressources for better results. Of course the Spell & Traps alleviate that, but you better draw them. In lore it also makes sense, the Amorphages are really strong but they are unnatural, and created from a horrible magic, With their innocent animal bodies writhing in pain, and their dragon shell melting and dying in front of your eyes. They're the sins of someone who created dragons for his own glory. And in the end, Goliath, the sin of Vanity, the only one that perfected a dragon form, merges with its creator, that soons becomes the embodiment of pain. Vector being the other half of memories of Luster, but anyway. I will say kudos to the designers for all of this, they knew how to put interesting limitations to not easily make this archetype the most insufferable mesh in existence. (Though Sloth/Goliath are sometimes played outside of Amorphage unfortunately.) And in my opinion, they could easily modernize the archetype with a few support cards; consistency cards, something to Tribute, a Spell & Trap searcher, and even, why not, Ritual elements scattered in. As long as they keep the spirit of them being a 'fast burning' floodgate Deck, with each floodgate becoming weaker and weaker each turn so that the opponent has a chance to break it all after a few turns, this would promote back and forth, but also important ressources management from the Amorphage player (Which Amorphage floodgate to use for this turn? What card to Tribute? Can I kill this turn? etc). Though they should be careful to make it so none of them could be cheated out in other Pendulum Decks and completely miss the whole point of the archetype.

[@piusbutarbutar1782]

a single batch of sustain support of this deck can make prime eldlitch stun like a baby toy

[@mekahans3678]

Konami often love to make random archetype only for "LORE" especialy during ArcV era

[@ahkwaheart]

the bots are in a tier 0 format

[@starjadiancloneinvestigato1772]

bots just played numeron calling

[@mattbaltimore7195]

Even i liked the grotesque aesthetics of it, i'm really glad this one failed and will never be fixed because we already have enough floodgates in modern YGO and it's for the better.....

[@leojamesquiambao1047]

Yeah, funny how many people in the comments section want this Archetype to be good. Playing against floodgate turbo is fun, innit? S

[@jpmedina8328]

Funny how Konami was naming the monsters based on the 7 deadly sins, but when they reached Lust they just went and said "Lechery", a cute synonym for Lust, since no one knows wtf Lechery means 💀💀💀

[@azurephantom100]

but people have heard at least in passing someone being called a lech or them being lecherous mostly old men in anime

[@j0j0dartiste21]

Lechery has always felt to me like a worse word for hornyness

[@williamdrum9899]

Should have used "Luxury" which was Latin for lust

[@frankaxe6700]

As a Dallas cowboys fan I can Agree with your statement

[@saltyk9869]

I was listening to this while doing something else. And I haven’t played Yugioh in years, but have kept up with the game thanks to channels like this. And I still caught the Achilles Heel before you said it. I mean a Pendulum deck that can’t Pendulum Summon is half dead right out the gate.

[@illdoittomorrow2368]

The amorphages worst downfall came with the link era. Now they can't even summon a link monster, which means they can only pendulum summon 1 monster from the extra deck. So they will never be able to fully pay their maintenance cost without outside support.

[@Zetact_]

Honestly whether it would be fun or not it also is weird they never got a Link monster because they're based on the 9 Deadly Sins but stopped at 8.

[@EternalEmperorofZakuul]

No wonder I didn't find pendulums interesting

[@azurephantom100]

the most likely ran out of mechanics to block also the sins were combined turning the 9 sins into 7 sins. according to the wiki, goliath is vanity (fitting lol) that was combined with envy and depending on which sin youre talking about are ether combined with another sin, used a different word/name, or was just outright dropped.

[@Bezaliel13]

@@Zetact_ ... Nine?

[@mje71103]

​​@@Bezaliel13Minor history lesson, apologies. There never was 9 at the same time, but the Amorphages' origins per the OCG are the Greek/Latin *eight evil thoughts,* the seven deadly sins' precursors, the list itself being almost about the same as what we got today, except for namely Vainglory (which Goliath is named after) and Sorrow. The latter I assume is what he's referring to as the "ninth sin," which nowadays has rolled in with the older definition of Acedia in Apathy to make modern day form of Acedia as Sloth, and Vainglory as an extension of Pride, making Envy a new addition altogether.

[@YuseiTheSynchroHero]

I remember Goliath, Lechery, and Sloth being occasional tech cards in OTHER decks. Goliath in Dragon decks when combined with Arkbrave Dragon for example. Ending on a board WITH Goliath to lock out the Extra Deck Some Pendulum Magician decks used Sloth as an end board piece to lock out the opponent's Extra Deck. And I vaguely remember Lechery being used somewhere alongside something like Sloth or Goliath. Since you'd have either face up, Lechery was just a literal NOPE to any Spell or Spell effects. And that's about it from my memory (if we don't count the Ritual Amorphactor)

[@colinduchilio4052]

The level 2s could be teched into Dragunity - you could use Atum to summon a big guy from deck, and Gae Deargh added the 2s

[@munchrai6396]

This is definitely the most interesting archetype so far. My biggest problem with a series like this taking such a negative view on these decks is that every other deck that's been covered at least functions. They may not be good, but calling them failures seems overly harsh when the gameplan can come together rather nicely just not in meta play. Amorphage's have so much potential, but it is insane how many arbitrary limitations the deck gets saddled with just from some overcautious card design. Would honestly love to see at least a few more cards maybe even something like the training wheels we got for Malefics as long as its locked into the archetype I don't see the harm in throwing this decrepit, non-functioning pendulum deck something resembling decent synergy since there ain't no way it'll even be rogue with all those restrictions ontop of the newer restrictions on Pendulums with the modern rules

[@gravethestampede3454]

Even with the bad maintenance costs, if the pendulum scales weren't so bad maybe they would have been decent. You can play copies of Pendulum Switch to help bypass the maintenance cost though.

[@azuredragoon2054]

When you can't even enable the summon your own boss monster, you're a bad archetype.

[@Stinkoman87]

@@azuredragoon2054 That's why Majespecter Unicorn was used way more outside of Majespecter decks.

[@tri33208]

Damn dallas even catching strays in a yugioh vids it seems to be the only thing they can catch

[@Broseftoast]

This is the first time I caught one of your videos when you just posted. Just wanted to save I love your channel man, gives me nostalgia and also I’m just a nerd and I love all the logic behind these cards even though I don’t play I watch your mtg one too and sometimes your wow channel they’re all good man keep it up

[@ZeroNeedsCoffee]

Make one about Ojamas please?

[@williamdrum9899]

Never noticed how kickass their artwork is. Each dragon has a virus clamped to its back.

[@Symptomofsynesthesy]

Not a simple virus, it's a bacteriophage or simply a phage!

[@azurephantom100]

kind of the virus is making regular monsters into dragons like the artwork in the spell amorphage infection greed is and lechery were the scorpion and hedgehog only small parts of what they used to be is left

[@Depressed_Spider]

@@azurephantom100 Yep, the artworks are showing the creatures MID TRANSFORMATION. Eugh.....

[@OlgaZuccati]

to be fair, spheres tribute for goliath was one of the most annoying things to deal with when you were playing against dragon link back then.

[@mrnewvegas2584]

When I heard the cowboys joke the only thing I could do was sigh and say to myself “yea…yea”

[@Izzy-rh7br]

Dallas cowboys reference in a YGO video was unexpectedly hilarious.

[@thedragonauthority]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the relation to their names and the 7 deadly sins.

[@jeremybrown9611]

Guess it was a low hanging fruit

[@thedragonauthority]

@@jeremybrown9611 it's the kind of thing he likes to usually mention. Lore and stuff.

[@leojamesquiambao1047]

That's for the unknown side series to discuss

[@infernomance]

It's almost criminal that an idea as great as "Body Horror Dragon Virus" was blown on such a lousy deck.

[@horchataguy91]

That cowboys stray..and I’m an Eagles fan like woah a football reference in a yugioh channel 😂😂😂

[@Rabbitlord108]

Oh my god. KZbin's bot problem is only getting worse.

[@s7121n9s]

I really wanted this deck to be sooo good. I love the concept of the deadly sins. I hope it gets more support or some sort of change to the archetype to make it viable

[@gijakob]

“Dallas Cowboys of Yugioh” is a fantastic analogy 😆

[@a1rg3ar31]

Ways I would make the archetype better. 1. New monsters with effects that activate upon leaving the field by a card effect, and a better version of that effect if it was from an Amorphage card's effect. Also, give them pendulum scales of 1 and 9. 2. Swarming and more searching that ignore the Amorphage floodgates. Like, seriously, why does this deck have no swarming? 3. Some form of negation protection that's not obnoxiously overpowered, but still reliable. 4. A Link monster that's either an extender or helps with swarming. With how slow this deck is, maybe it could get away with a Link-1, but it should probably be restricted to only being summonable once per turn, depending on how good it is.

[@Holly-khore-levina]

Honestly I feel like what this deck really could have benefited from (besides just better scales to work with) was either an archtype-specific means of influencing scales like Yosenju Shinchu R or the Star-Timegazer magicians where you get better scales for sticking to the Archetype... or a card that allowed you do something else besides tribute to keep monsters on the field. Something in the vein of the Kokai Meiru cards. Also possibly either a boss monster or something to that effect that added an extra wrinkle towards the floodgates. Either making them go from Vanity to Majesty monsters (read: only locking your opponent out of them) or making it so that the pendulum effects become their monster effects, increasing the range of flood-gates you can have out.

[@sithmaster4305]

I was not expecting Cowboys slander in my yugioh video but i'm all for it.

[@pptemplar5840]

I have been cooking with this pure occasionally for years, MR 4/4.5 absolutely destorys this deck's longevity. Basically either play Dragon Gate or ignore them entirely.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

“Being hyped… that you’re good, then realizing you’re a failure.” Damn, DuelLogs getting personal out here. Hit me right in the feels.

[@WolfDB]

"They're like the Dallas Cowboys of the Yu-Gi-Oh world!" Mmmm nah, at least the Cowboys have SOME success in their history. This is more like the Cleveland Browns

[@friendship5293]

Nahh he's right, the Browns are just... Bad. No one expects them to be good (Sans this year of course!)

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

0:07 When are we getting videos for Ignknights, Magical Musketeer or Subterror?

[@negate-07]

we migt not get the ighknights for 2 reasons they were a force to be reconed with at mr3 infernoble uses 2 of their scale they have searchers for lv4 fires usually i don't accept 2 card as a save from failed but when they are the worst cards in the archetype "the freaking vanilas that seach a fire warrior at a -1"

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@negate-07 I mean, either DuelLogs' criteria is REALLY harsh (to the point i can see him putting the Hands as part of Failed archetype, and say "they were only good thanks to Traptrix and Artifacts".... heck I can see DuelLogs put artifacts in the failed mechanic too). Or at this point it feels like this category is just "excuse to talk about any deck that wasn't Minimum tier 1 at their prime" So we could get Igknight sooner or later

[@takashitaisho1926]

Nothing like special summon Goliath with the hieratic sphere link after bouncing your opponent normal summon. 🤙🏻

[@paulmonroy6534]

That random cowboys stray made my day.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

Idea for a new “Amorphage Infector” monster that’s based off of the little virus looking things that turn other monsters into Amorphage ones: _Amorphage Infector_ (EARTH) Level 1 Pendulum Scales: 0⬅️➡️0 _Once per turn, you can declare the name of 1 “Amorphage” Pendulum monster from your hand or that you control: Until the draw phase of your next turn, this card gains that declared monster’s Pendulum Effects and Scales. If a monster(s) in your hand or you control is Tributed, or destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon this card from your Pendulum Zones._ Machine/Pendulum/Effect _If an “Amorphage” card you control is tributed or destroyed by battle or card effect: You can special summon this card from your hand or face-up from your extra deck. Can make additional attacks per battle phase, and gains 250 ATK/DEF, equal to the number of face-up “Amorphage” cards you control. If this card is destroyed by an opponent’s monster (by battle or card effect); You can equip this card to that monster, and if you do, you take control of it while this card is equipped to it._ ATK/250 DEF/250

[@blake2534]

I can't get away from Jerry's shenaningans even when I step entirely out of the realm of football. I really had to listen to that bit again😂

[@TonyGG6300]

I love playing dragon decks, especially Lvl 7/8 dragon spam. My favorite combo I was able to do pretty constantly was send Goliath to the GY with Trade-in, Shrine, Dragon Ravine, or as XYZ materials (if it was summoned with Nebula dragons effect) and bring it back with Arkbrave or Return of the dragon Lords. Dragon Decks aren't the best but being able to finish off a board with Number 38, Goliath, Ruins of the dragon lord, and a Return in the GY was a pretty good turn 1 stun that didnt take 5 minutes to combo.

[@Lightstation_]

The design of the monsters are so unique but...the man.

[@twerpinadeflorina6204]

I was not ready for that sponsored segment 🤣

[@fungi1385]

Next archtype Nephthys, even if it has been my pet deck for yearS i still think 1 on nephthys would be cool

[@christopherfeatherley]

Nephthys are actually fairly decent, even in this modern meta. It's one of my favourite decks to play, only you shouldn't play it pure 😅 a lot of the Pringle level 2 Nephthys cards are slow, so i'll have to agree that it's a failed mechanic (I only play Desciple of Nephthys)

[@nophion2-electricboogaloo647]

I remember when these were announced. Around my locals people acted like they were the strongest stuff ever and would conquer the meta. And then they were absolutely useless filth.

[@melvinshine9841]

Goddamn, the Cowboys are even getting roasted on a Yugioh channel.🤣 Starry Knights could probably qualify for one of these. They're a neat idea, but it'd be great if the archetype didn't revolve entirely around special summoning their boss monster from the hand and not anywhere else.

[@redblood421]

Maybe the best thing for the deck would just be a couple of consistency. Like a spell that said look at your opponent hand or top 5 cards of their deck. Then add of amorphage monster from deck to hand maybe a hard once per turn depending on power level. Then a link 1 or 2 that could revive itself. And summon tokens during the draw or standby phase.

[@kevinthe2nd73]

Amorphage archetype only had one set of support. Which is just another way to say Konomi didn't take the time to improve the deck.

[@DaeronRT]

The only support I can think of it could be a couple of Link Monster (Amorphage Link 1, Link 2 and maybe link 3 all pointing Down). A new Field Speel that searches on activation with a similar effect like Dragonic Diagram. Even with that, it still hard to play it soe yea, good luck hoping that

[@ScarHydreigon87]

Amorphactor Pain actually does see play in a gimmicky Drytron deck paired with Terminal World to skip your opponent's turn

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

Ok, so Amorphage monsters are supposed to be corrupted versions of pre-existing creatures, right? One way the archetype can be fixed is by leaning into that, with a new Amorphage monster of each main monster type, symbolizing a monster of that type being infected and mutated after being defeated… We could have names like: Amorphage Pyre (Pyro) Amorphage Torrent (Aqua) Amorphage Heresy (Divine-Beast) And so on and so fourth…

[@azurephantom100]

they would need to be able to fix the scale issues as well as allowing for copying the effect for the desired lock downs as to fix the scale needs to remove one of the lock down effects. as well as some protection or hell some work arounds for more flexibility

[@kennydarmawan13]

Man, imagine making a card that just changes Amorphages' pendulum scales to 1 and 9 respectively. While also making you able to tribute a card your opponent controls for the cost. And making the pendulum cards indestructible.

[@Luis27377]

This is the first time I ever heard of amorphage

[@danielcain8136]

Stand proud Amorphage you are strong.

[@RedEyeKing313X]

Bro had to make this video after getting floodgated by this archetype 💀

[@MajinObama]

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[@CaptainJLinebeck]

Honestly I'm fine with this archetype staying bad. We've already got enough oppressive floodgate effects running around as is

[@totenkopf8814]

Igknights are giga chads favorite deck though 🗿

[@258thHiGuy]

Amorphactor pain goes hard in Drytron though

[@pulsefel9210]

the best cards to put in your scales are the ones stopping monster and spells. your opponent will only be able to use traps and a normal summon their first turn and have to pray you cant pay the cost. getting two or three level 4 and/or another to normal summon and you got both guard and a mystic mine/imperial order combo set.

[@FrinniferFran]

4:58 You didn’t NEED to speak those Facts. But you’ve made it your god given mission to do so, wtf Mr. Logs

[@christopherdibiase613]

Sloth also saw competitive play in Billy Brake's 1st place 2016 YCS Bochum Metalfoe side deck.

[@ArcheTelos]

They really made a Pendulum deck that's bad at everything that made the Pendulum mechanic strong to begin with

[@Infinite160]

Yeah, we all thought a Flood Gate archetype would be amazing, but for all the reason you mentioned, it flopped super hard. If it wasn't for the maintenance cost, I think the deck would be decent. Maybe you can do Graydle. It's another archetype the community got excited about because it was the "Snatch Steal" archetype. But it ended up sucking too.

[@skotiaH2O]

Gosh, the bots are really everywhere.

[@Rabbitlord108]

Yep. It's frustrating and DISGUSTING!

[@barubary218]

??? What bots what??

[@Rabbitlord108]

​@@barubary218 A couple of bots appeared in the comments section of this video. And the fact that KZbin is okay with it happening here (And the sections of other videos) is DISGUSTING!

[@_-_-_L_-_-_]

If subterrors guru could flip links and the deck had just 1 more good spell or trap support it'd be tier 1

[@genesis4322]

The scales in this deck really is it's biggest issue. I tried playing this deck a few times back in the day but not being able to pendulum summon more than half the deck makes it super hard to build any sort of board.

[@theazuredemon4854]

And True King of All Calamities happened... but I reckon that's a video for another day...

[@uffeli7212]

I am not a ygo player, I just love collecting the cards. I remember when I opened shining victories packs and saw these cards I felt so bad when they had a cool thing going for them with a bad execution

[@leojamesquiambao1047]

Top 10 Worst classic cards 7: Ancient Sanctuary, or Top 10 Worst Warrior type monsters For the non top 10 list: The Unknown side of Yu-Gi-Oh: Beasts of the Colliseum featuring Gladiator Beasts

[@ExtrumComics]

Only way for the amorphage to work is combine it as a hybrid with another archetype or just combine it with a small package of dogmatika cards.

[@sjaakbakker9944]

pendulum soup: allow me to introduce myself

[@samurilegends1889]

I think the only other playable card was sloth as a tech in for going first in other pendulum decks. To attempt to stop your opponent from ever going off. But it wasn't a popular choice, but I did see it.

[@esdeathisbae9480]

OHHHHHHHHHH as a Philadelphia eagles fan i appreciate that comparison

[@GoldAndGrey]

When I played Amorphage I would play Void Expansion to have a regular flow of tokens for tribute

[@minatoarisato3181]

terrible scale's and the link monster's killed this deck.

[@Riptor25]

I feel like Amprphages were one Iron/Diamond Core of Koa'ki Meiru away from at least being playable.

[@crystalite-thecritic9396]

It would've been way better if they were "soft" floodgates, only restricting you to 2 cards you can add from the deck to your hand or 2 monster that can be summoned from the extra deck each turn. This would've made them way more interactable, easier to work around, gives them the chance to receive support and build up a medium board without negates to have a good back and forth with way easier upkeep and a few new guidelines to play by

[@jimmysniffenjr831]

The Dallas cowboys stray literally made me physically react

[@NOTMASTERPRIME]

It's a damn shame, I love this arctype and I still use it to this day I even mix them with generaiders, the only difference is the deck usually ends with one amorphage in the pendulum scale while I use the level one pendulum monster that goes back to the deck. While I wish we could get more support but obviously it's never gonna happen so im just finding cards that could help the arctype. All I want is a amorthus persona searcher, and no planet pathfinder is not one of it

[@u.a.perfectace7786]

Amorphages are the Dallas Cowboys of Yugioh. Ooof.

[@negate-07]

the funny thing is the whole archetype is searchable sky iris or skullcrobat into revolution dragon into lv 8 or lower pendulum dragon

[@thewhisperingsylph8738]

Hieratic love to be tributed and they're Dragon too but the ED lock makes them hesitant to get along with Amorphage.

[@martynkalendar]

at least goliath was good in blue-eyes :p

[@km_1911]

Can you do pure Subterror next? It would actually be very interesting hearing how Subterror evolved from a terrible deck to meta by adjusting how it was played.

[@makokx7063]

"whose levels are equal to or exceed 8" ⭐≥ 8 This is probably what I hate most about Yu-Gi-Oh. They use a mountain of text for simple concepts and write everything out instead of just making ability names like in magic. A single yugioh deck has more text than a college textbook.

[@christianburgoyne265]

That’s so cool that minnieful is part of his videos now 🙏

[@OlOlOIIO]

Cant believe there was a sports reference in my YGO video--that isn't about UA's.

[@uaeoaeoeoi]

The worst part about the deck is that, to make it at least playable, the only requirements would be to set the levels and scales to work properly and flip the effects so the archetypal extra deck lock is the pendulum effect and the effect with an upkeep cost are the monster effects.

[@sagittario42]

i always wanted to play this deck but as you explained it didnt mesh while with its own damn cards. i would love a re-train of the entire archtype.

[@LichHero]

I loved this archetype. It was never a meta threat, but I think when it was new, it was very much playable. What really killed this deck was the link format. Now it is literally unplayable because you can never summon enough to maintain the scales.

[@SheruMuko]

With the changes to the pendulum mechanic, Amorphages were murdered.

[@MarkShockker]

I’m surprised you’re not talking about Earthbound immortal yet.

[@kingraf1854]

Duel log really called them the Dallas cowboys 😆😆😆

[@jinkazama7587]

Sloth/Goliath is pretty strong in Ninjas with Super Transformation lol

[@joshuashaffer3820]

I love the amorphage archetype. I actually use an amorphage deck in master duel lol

[@joshuashaffer3820]

I use an odd-eyes engine with odd-eyes revolution dragon as a dragon pendulum searcher along with sky iris and skullcrobat joker to search revolution, and around 4-6 of the spirit pendulum monsters for pendulum summoning since they have a scale of 9, allowing for pendulum summons of Goliath and sloth. Ahriman also fits well since you can use infections effect to search another amorphage as well as drawing. So my ideal combo is to either sky iris into revolution by sacrificing one of either Goliath or sloth to search, or use skullcrobat to do so. If you already have a revolution or one of the spirit pendulums, use revolution to add the missing piece/pieces for your combo, scale gluttony and a spirit pendulum(if available) pendulum summon, return the spirit pendulum, then scale lechery in it's place. This combo locks down extra deck summons, monster effects, and spell cards, literally 90-95% of your opponents deck considering they're not using labrynth or traptrix and ends with lots of scoops on master duel lol.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@joshuashaffer3820 Labrynth, too, needs monster effects to assemble the engine. Swapping Lechery for Greed on turn three (or going for that immediately when you go second and see your opponent passing on set cards) should be feasible.

[@catsorafgc]

I want to give this a try. Does the deck have space for hand traps? Since they’re pretty fragile, any kind of protection would be nice

[@joshuashaffer3820]

@@xCorvus7x yes, it does, but you should expect to play them only if you go second or if you play 3 of lechery and one gluttony in case of monster heavy decks

[@joshuashaffer3820]

@@catsorafgc oops wrong person to reply to lol

[@Linkwii64]

This is when KONAMI Yu-Gi-Oh still design give cards with drawback, unlike today cards design no drawback.

[@dmtrsgrksrphl2501]

These actually belong to a story involving Dracoslayers, Dracoverlords, Igknights, Majespecters and Dinomists fyi

[@HashSlingingSlasher539]

If they wanted this deck to work they should have made all the pendulum scales 1 and 9 or make all the monsters level 4. Then make a consistent way to get them back from the extra deck back into your hand so you could cycle the floodgates pendulum effects. The maintenance cost isn't really the issues as they allow you a free and easy way to change out for a different floodgates of you wanted to. But it's for the best it failed, every floodgate easily accessible and constantly able to change. And not giving them a link monster to make them work once links hit the game means even Konami doesn't think they are worth saving

[@DonDavelle]

So Goliath has the exact same issue as Kirin, a great pendulum boss monster that was purposely neutered by having its own archetype be unable to reliably summon it, even down to it actually being better splashed in other decks. So, along with early Ice Barriers, I'm curious if there are any other archetypes that get shafted this way

[@Bezaliel13]

Oh, I get it. You are supposed to use other cards, despite their lockdown, like how they are draconic mutations of nondragons. Pity competitive prefers pure... for some reason.