See the guy at St. Paul Union Depot in the rainbow shirt and the black kilt? That was me! I rode in the 2nd coach all the way to Chicago. :) As a Minnesotan and St. Pauler, I'm pleased as punch to have another rail transit option to Chi Town. I go there frequently, and especially for the westbound, the Borealis will be a vast improvement, as it arrives at a more civilized hour than the Empire Builder's scheduled arrival of 10:30 PM which is often more like 11:00 or later.
@timothycasey73585 ай бұрын
The St. Paul depot used to have the first engine to run in Minnesota in its lobby. It was moved to the train Museum in Duluth, MN. St. Paul is my hometown an I'm by proud of it.
@timnewman11725 ай бұрын
Well, when the route to Duluth is finally online you will be able to ride up to see it... This is a much needed service, now to get another couple trains each way daily on the schedule!
@AlexanderSkinnerVids5 ай бұрын
It’s always been strange riding the Empire Builder west of St Paul, as for that leg of the trip, seemingly only half of the coach seats were used. I’m so happy we now have more capacity on the MSP-CHI corridor, it’s going to be GREAT for all of the cities along the route!
@douglasskaalrud68654 ай бұрын
I will take a half-full coach on the Empire Builder any day. Amtrak packs an entire coach to the limit from Milwaukee west to St. Paul. If you want to ride in a full coach so it doesn’t feel so strange then MILW to SP/M is for you! If the train boards at 11 p.m. in St. Paul, which it should, it may be light to St. Cloud but it picks up some riders there. Always picking up riders in North Dakota so the Builder has a decent load by Montana. I don’t see any increase in numbers stopping in towns along the way with the Borealis. I think the main advantage is the train operates in daylight-until winter.
@Hahlen5 ай бұрын
The metrolink cars were in Milwaukee to be refurbished at the Talgo factory nearby.
@fcjose315 ай бұрын
Quiza renuevan a un Talgo de estos kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJqpl4mmj9x_gJYsi=C46kexS80czPi16_&t=1
@kylebianconi74415 ай бұрын
This is awesome! Now we just need to get the train route open between the Twin Cities and Duluth! :)
@lanadellhatestheclock33254 ай бұрын
I am looking forward to that as well!
@jace1223 ай бұрын
nah keep those animals in the cities
@Keethraxmn4 ай бұрын
I live a few blocks from Union Depot in St Paul, and family is in Chicago. This is a game changer for us.
@etiennee98135 ай бұрын
Very nice. I travel Amtrak via Glenview, Illinois, All the Time. L.A. D C. Providence via NYC. Love it. Have not taken an Airplane in 11 years. Amtrak or Nothing - for me !
@TomHoffman-uw7pf5 ай бұрын
Flying is a hassle, especially post-9/11. If there's no train, I'll just drive my customary 200-300 miles/day and I'll get there when I get there. As a rough rule of thumb, any overnight train pre-Amtrak (Broadway, Century, DZ) translates to a two-day drive.
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife5 ай бұрын
Chicagoland represent!
@filanfyretracker4 ай бұрын
train and car are just too slow across country for the vacation time frames I have had. I will say though taking the train from Philadelphia to Boston, fsck driving and the airlines. No sitting traffic, no invasive security theater, and the people who built the Acela seating unlike aircraft engineers remembered that humans come standard with legs.
@Milhouse77BS5 ай бұрын
Will nice to have another train to go up to Minnesota.
@nuclearumbrella58185 ай бұрын
It's pretty funny (and sad) that the old 400 and Hiawatha services ran an hour quicker between these two cities in the 1930s
@harrisonofcolorado88865 ай бұрын
If only Naperville never happened.
@daniellewis17895 ай бұрын
They didn't have the 79 mph speed limit to deal with and Chicago to Milwaukee ought to be a grade separated electrified corridor running 125+.
@daniellewis17895 ай бұрын
Honestly can we get the South Shore Line to extend north to Milwaukee along the old North Shore Line?
@IndustrialParrot28165 ай бұрын
@@daniellewis1789no way that happens without a Center City Tunnel north of Millennium Station
@derpdiggler74132 ай бұрын
traffic was a different story back then
@Tbpker225 ай бұрын
Wonderful!! As a resident of the Twin Cities i am thrilled to have this new service, and will definitely use it as a replacement for driving to Chicago.
@TomHoffman-uw7pf5 ай бұрын
"Trains are ALWAYS late" I was hearing this several years BEFORE Amtrak. Milwaukee Road made up for it with the awesome Skytop parlor-observation and full-service dining cars.
@mikemainer30095 ай бұрын
Recliners like at your grandma's....I do like that description of the seats.
@dathpo5 ай бұрын
Nice video. Glad to hear the name "Borealis" for the train. When I was teenager I called my Freelance train layout the "Aurora and Fort Wayne RR" and yup its crack streamliner was the "Borealis" or the "Aurora Borealis" My fictonal Chicago to Cincinnati train. Borealis would, slso, refer to a northern wind! My train utilized the Lowry streamline K4s and stainless steel passenger cars. Todays vetsion, an American models DGLE Lowey K4 and Streamline SS passenger cars lettered Borealis. I love seeing the Amtrak version pass though to St Paul with the real Aurora Borealis in the sky. A dream come true! May the train run for a long long time.Thank you!
@amtrakharry5 ай бұрын
Great report guys Thanks Justin for filming this ...:):):)
@transitcaptain5 ай бұрын
And Amtrak sometimes has haters that don't have hope for trains improving. But this is amazing!
@lalakerspro5 ай бұрын
IS this really an improvement though? 12 hours from st paul to chicago is excessive, and a new train using old cars (compared to ventures) seems like we are going backwards
@transitcaptain5 ай бұрын
@@lalakerspro It’s 7hr and 45 min……. Plus this really is HSR distance
@transitcaptain5 ай бұрын
@@lalakerspro It’s 7hr and 45 min……. Plus this really is HSR distance. Ventures will come at some point
@lalakerspro5 ай бұрын
@@transitcaptain idk where i read 12 hours, 7 hr 45 doesnt seem too bad. But i dont think they should make any stops between MIL and CHI cause hiawatha already does
@tonywalters72985 ай бұрын
@@transitcaptain it would be nice if they could get the timing to under 6-7 hours or so, and then run a few more trains a day to be more competitive with driving.
@tarasaurus985 ай бұрын
I took the Empire Builder to St Paul just a few months ago. It would have been really nice to have had the extra service back then!
@kendorman65675 ай бұрын
Was great seeing you getting to experience St Paul Union Depot.. hope you enjoyed your trip.😊
@RandomRailfan8285 ай бұрын
This was an interesting update to Amtrak, I’m glad they added this service! This really helps move cars off the road, and it looked like a fun ride too! Great video man, glad you were able to dive into this!
@dennisud5 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back on this side of the pond! 😉 The last train I took from Miami To Winter Haven was this exact model coach! I hope they have more new train lines in the south as more people are moving there!
@crowmob-yo6ry4 ай бұрын
As long as the evil Cara Mendelsohn is in charge and Florida is the sacred cow of the sensationalist news media, I doubt it.
@MaceQuantex5 ай бұрын
Reportedly Minnesota is buying Venture cars to replace the Horizon coaches on the Borealis. They just aren't ready yet (Venture cars will also be used on the NLX between Minneapolis & Duluth). Similar to how the route started running before the infrastructure improvements were done. They got it running early with what they had, but will be making improvements over time.
@tfmn2185 ай бұрын
Minnesota came very late to the Venture car table and first intended them for the NLX well before the discussion of the Borealis was finished. My understanding is that NLX has priority over any Venture cars because they came out of that funding. Keep in mind that NLX only exists on paper and hasn't even reached the design stage for stations and infrastructure improvements needed let alone negotiated an agreement with BNSF to operate up to 4 round trip trains a day on the line. There also has been concern voiced about it's isolation from the rest of the Amtrak network but Minnesota is bound and determined to run it out of Target Field Station in Minneapolis instead of Union Depot in St Paul.
@MaceQuantex5 ай бұрын
Although I do agree that it would be better to have the Borealis and NLX sharing at least one station, NLX isn't isolated from the Amtrak network as the Foley Blvd Station will serve not only the NLX, but also the Empire Builder, the North Coast Hiawatha (if/when that happens), and the Northstar. While this won't happen in the immediate future, efforts to extend the Borealis to Fargo are already underway (which would add Foley Blvd as a stop and give the two routes a shared station), plus one of the CID grants that was awarded to MnDOT this past December included funding to study the possibility of connecting Target Field and Union Depot via commuter rail (I don't expect anything to come of that, but who knows). There are only 67 railroad projects eligible for federal funding later this year and as of right now, NLX is the only one that has the state's share of the funding approved - which is a requirement for federal grant approval (having final design of the stations is not a requirement for approval of the federal grant - as far as I'm aware). Reaching an agreement with BNSF for using the corridor is a requirement, however, and remains the largest hurdle right now, and talks are in progress. If an agreement can be reached before October, the grant application deadline, it will likely receive approval later this year.
@tfmn2185 ай бұрын
@@MaceQuantex I wish I shared your optimism... While I support the expansion of rail options, please be careful on where you think the status of these projects are currently. Yes, NLX is close. The BNSF Hinckley Subdivision just isn't seeing the freight traffic it once did so getting more trains really shouldn't be difficult but BNSF's relations with the State of Minnesota have never been very good (NorthStar St Cloud expansion and the Green Line SW extension as examples) Foley Blvd Station getting an Empire Builder stop is not likely even on Amtrak's radar since it is barely 30 minutes from St Paul and it's current design is basically a NorthStar infill station. Then there is the Borealis extension... Considering I have seen nothing from MNDoT on this possibility, I can't see this as anything more than an item on a railfan's wishlist. I'm not sure having a single train running commuter level service, which is what the Borealis is supposed to be, from Fargo to Chicago is a good idea. Running a train from Fargo to St Paul with a good buffer to meet a Borealis to continue the journey makes more sense especially since there will be pressure to fill in towns currently skipped by the Empire Builder. However, we couldn't even get Northstar extended to St Cloud...
@MaceQuantex5 ай бұрын
@@tfmn218 I believe we are close on a lot of these things, with "close" being a relative term that could mean "ten years or more" in practice, lol. I also believe that there's any number of things that could go wrong and prevent any or all of these things from happening at all. I have personally heard from city officials in the northwest metro that Amtrak wants a long distance station between St. Paul and St. Cloud. At one point Anoka was trying to get it, but Amtrak ultimately rejected those plans for multiple reasons, a very large one being the state approving its portion of the funding for NLX which included a station at Foley Blvd, which is less than 8 miles from Anoka. I've personally spoken with State Representative Zach Stephenson (who represents Anoka and Coon Rapids) about the Foley Blvd station and he talked about the plans to have the Empire Builder stop there as well, and about how Foley Blvd is being viewed as a significant rail stop because, as things are currently configured, it will be the only station capable of serving the long distance and regional routes. So I'm fairly confident in Foley Blvd being a thing *eventually*. The extension of Borealis to Fargo was mentioned during the speeches at the kickoff festivities for the Borealis on May 21st (although I can't remember who made the comment), and there is support from city officials in the communities between St. Paul and Fargo for a second daily train (both the eastbound and westbound Empire Builder pass through these towns in the dead of night, so they're hoping for something useful) and All Aboard MN is lobbying the state to make it happen. In that same discussion with Rep. Stephenson he mentioned the state was looking at expanding rail transportation and among the things they were looking at were extending the Borealis or running a separate train between Fargo and St. Paul. Which one, if either, they'll decide to go with... Who knows? If it happens, it isn't happening in the next couple of years, that's for sure. And having read the Northstar Rail Corridor Post-Pandemic Study, I find it difficult to see how the future of that line is anything other than an extension to St. Cloud, and there are MetroTransit documents that show projected numbers on the funding of that extension and what the annual operating costs would be (which doesn't mean they're moving forward with it, just that they've done the math). But we'll have a clearer picture on all of this when the state publishes its updated rail plan later this year. But yes, I am optimistic... and thankfully, very patient.
@MaceQuantex5 ай бұрын
I should add that the rebirth of the North Coast Hiawatha probably has a greater chance of happening than the NLX, the Borealis extension, and the Northstar extension. *That* would give the state the second daily train between Fargo & St. Paul, so I wouldn't be too surprised if the Borealis extension doesn't happen & the NCH route acts as the second train for the region.
@GlennTillema4 ай бұрын
An average of 55mph and not having to drive sounds like a good deal!
@rogerforsberg39105 ай бұрын
First, quite instructive, Mr Simply, for those of us who've traveled often on trains in Europe, but seldom on trains in the US. Second, congratulations to you & your colleagues for your impressive production values!
@SimplyRailway5 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@rogerforsberg39105 ай бұрын
@@SimplyRailway Vous êtes bienvenue!
@terryaki35055 ай бұрын
Love your videos - do more in the US so we can see the fun trips to take and that are not long and not that expensive! Good for us oldies! ;) thank you!
@ronclark97245 ай бұрын
Look at his playlist, he has nearly done all of the US trains, overnight long distance and daytime regional...
@Sam-dm4kz3 ай бұрын
Add Rochester at Mayo Clinic STOP on a way to Chicago , people flying overseas must go to Chicago. Train service is an excellent choice
@darladoxstater85285 ай бұрын
My train to Chicago (boarded in Fullerton) in January included a couple Metrolink cars. We were told they were going back for refurbishment.
@rezaalan39915 ай бұрын
Great trip, and thank you Justin for recording the debut of Amtrak Borealis. Hope the brand new coaches and locomotive can be attached in this train after running about few months. But for the first trip, is great.
@ronclark97245 ай бұрын
Siemens has a lot of orders for new Venture coaches. Five years worth of construction... It maybe five years before the Borealis gets any new Venture coaches...
@EmeraldCrimsonShadowPeach2K55 ай бұрын
I believe the reason why they call this new service the Borealis is because they plan on extending it to a place in Minnesota where you can see the Northern Lights!
@blarfroer80665 ай бұрын
The aurora in Minnesota? Maybe after particularly strong sun storms. It's on the same latitude as Germany.
@hrford5 ай бұрын
@@blarfroer8066 Aurora Borealis? At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within Minnesota?
@spencergreen95875 ай бұрын
I'm just outside Detroit Lakes and have seen them multiple times in the last couple years. We have a beautiful old Depot that the Empire Builder stops at every morning. Extending the Borealis route to North West Minnesota would compliment the Northeastern route to Duluth. I'm sure Moorhead will be there Northern terminal for Borealis, DL would be great for this area though.
@SarahRenz595 ай бұрын
Nice shot at the end of the Amtrak 160 “Pepsi can.” My favorite of the heritage locomotives!
@Charlizzie5 ай бұрын
Finally, Thibs is doing what that TrainsAreAwesome guy couldn't in Borealis. Riding in full.
@joelkidwell5 ай бұрын
Of course you were at the event and on the inaugural run! You really are the best reporter of all things passenger rail in the western world. Thank you for all you do.
@scottyerkes18675 ай бұрын
Nice ride on the Borealis service St Paul to Chicago. Thanks Thibault.💚👌👍💕
@TotalHomeJim30005 ай бұрын
P42 looks awesome in that livery!
@SimplyRailway5 ай бұрын
It does!
@thomasheaney42355 ай бұрын
Thanks for shining a light on this new service. I’m hoping to see direct service to/from Madison ASAP. For now I’ll be catching Borealis from Portage or Columbus.
@stinkyroadhog13475 ай бұрын
13:26 Ha! EMD's are eternal. They'll outlive us all! As a Canadian, im growing ever envious of Amtrak's further improvements and expansions
@anthonywarrener18815 ай бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video. The delivery of new Venture cars continues to be very slow, and whilst the Amfleet and Horizon cars are showing their age, the refurbished interiors with the new leather seats is really good. I find the Venture cars very disappointing, with the seat cushions far too firm, and one can only hope that before they reach the East, and especially the Florida services, Amtrak specify more comfortable seats. I do hope the Borealis service is a huge success !
@nolantherailfan50485 ай бұрын
Amtrak is also gonna be launching service along the Gulf Coast soon
@IndustrialParrot28165 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what the deal with that is
@truckerkevthepaidtourist5 ай бұрын
@@IndustrialParrot2816mobile the one stalling everything
@bnsf69025 ай бұрын
Omg I walked right passed you while going to look out the back window and didn’t even realize it
@nathanfortun57684 ай бұрын
Now all they need to do is upgrade the rail to high speed magnet like in Japan and then it will get real popular. Being able to go between St. Paul to Chicago in like 2 hours would be a god send and would greatly increase the economy of the two cities.
@milojohnson46485 ай бұрын
Welcome to the twin cities! Glad to have you here on that historic day!
@juliendefreyne-tv3dl5 ай бұрын
j'adore les train americain surtout ses paysage
@lalakerspro5 ай бұрын
Surprised that a european likes our trains, usually they hate them
@ronclark97245 ай бұрын
@@lalakerspro Europeans still have old trains running in the Balkans and further east... Don't believe the hype that all of the European trains are brand new HSR trains either...
@StevesWanderlust5 ай бұрын
Great video! I'm riding in BC tomorrow. I prefer the Horizon & Amfleet cars to the Ventures. If Amtrak were to change out the Venture seats for some with padding as ample as the legacy product I'd change my tune.
@calebtrains22615 ай бұрын
I'm Glad They Did This, Because I Was Kind Of Surprised That The Only Service Between Chicago And Minneapolis-St. Paul Was The Empire Builder.
@craigwiester9177Ай бұрын
I rode with a wheelchair-bound companion; everything was smooth as silk.
@kevinsmith52885 ай бұрын
It looks like a similar type of car that I've ridden on The Vermonter many times. Thanks for another great video!
@GojiMet865 ай бұрын
*Principal Skinner* : An Amtrak Borealis? At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within the train? ......Can I ride it?
@mariovieira8385 ай бұрын
Nice video. Also nice to see Amtrak growing a little, and it seems the Borealis was well recieved. Maybe with time the train will get a companion, and with that the Chicago to the Twin Cities route will sort of be back to old days of Milwaukee Road, with 3 daily trains each way. But if some things are good, others are not. It would be great to have this train running at the same speeds that Milwaukee Road had back then; 100 Mph top speed to wich Today 's just 79 is a fair cry. But infrastucture was also better, with much more miles with 2 main tracks. With that these trains could be at least one hour faster. Maybe one day, that or maybe a little more (110 Mph) will be again possible. I also agree with you; with the Venture cars passenger experience would be much better
@williamkesler23735 ай бұрын
Great video as always. It seems promising that a new service has finally been introduced, even if its technically just an extension of an existing one. But at Chicago, you walked right next to an Amtrak heritage painted locmotive and didn't comment at all. That's the most surprising part of the whole video 😅
@Neville600015 ай бұрын
We need something like this in Canada from VIA Rail.
@lalakerspro5 ай бұрын
Canada is making no effort to improve its rail. At least in the US we have many projects underway
@metro1195 ай бұрын
@@lalakerspro Apart from replacing all the trains on the Quebec City - Montreal - Toronto - Windsor corridor...
@ronclark97245 ай бұрын
@@metro119 VIA should have a daily train running from Edmonton to Calgary. VIA should be prosecuted for NOT having this service presently...
@navi54325 ай бұрын
heck yeah! more trains for MN!
@meanmetalmike6665 ай бұрын
Come to Durango Colorado and do a video of the Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge rr it's worth the experience ☝️🤘
@michaelbruchas66635 ай бұрын
I want to ride it! The train looks great and shiny in that rain… But still remember a Burlington (now BNSF) route running West from Chicago then up along the Mississippi to the Twin Cities in the 1960s. Maybe it was twice daily - but I was a kid then…
@ronclark97245 ай бұрын
I recall the Burlington Texas Zephyr and their Christmas holiday ski trains from Houston to Dallas to Amarillo to Colorado Springs to Denver... I also recall the Burlington T-bone steak in the diner between Dallas and Houston... Amtrak should be prosecuted for NOT having a daily train from Dallas and Houston, the largest crime in railroad history! I want all of the Texas Zephyr route back in service... Amtrak, pull your head out of your ass... The second largest populated state in the union should have triple the Amtrak services it has currently...
@fra-ame83825 ай бұрын
Le ville où j'habite, Red Wing MN
@chicagomike3 ай бұрын
Beautiful video thank you.
@amj.composer4 ай бұрын
This makes me so unbelievably happy.
@jezzter42935 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your video's, thank you
@davidwhiting17615 ай бұрын
I can understand why a new service like this would premiere with old stock rather than the newer Venture coaches - Amtrak could be making use of older stock which has already been displaced by the newer Venture stock on other services. It's a way to not waste stock that while old is still serviceable, and as you've noted the seating in the coaches in still pretty comfortable. Plus if this new train doesn't take off as expected using old stock instead of investing in a brand-new train's worth of rolling stock would potentially reduce any losses. Once the train is established and ridership proves that the service is a success worth further investment Amtrak will likely reequip the train with new Venture stock. Amtrak doesn't exactly get a blank check from Congress and so making do with older stock seems logical to me.
@stephenspilker93345 ай бұрын
now all they need to do is extend the line to duluth minn. i love the st. paul union depot, i spent many hours there as a kid watching the trains come and go. my great grandpa was the station master long ago.
@IndustrialParrot28165 ай бұрын
There is another new Service in the Works I don't know what the status on it is tho
@arlinwheeler735021 күн бұрын
Nice to see the Pepsi can 160 in Chicago like that paint scheme
@ericsimandl39985 ай бұрын
The route should include Madison. College students use rail.
@aaronbransky98485 ай бұрын
That would be good, but the tracks into Madison are not that good -- would be very slow. Thank you, Scott Walker, for your boneheaded decision to kill Chicago - Milwaukee - Madison train service.
@rowsdower125 ай бұрын
I wish I knew sooner as I live in the twin cities I could have seen the inauguration. If it was open to the public
@ericcriteser40015 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I just rode in the Venture cars from Detroit to Chicago and back a few weeks ago and the seats are terrible for more than about two or three hours. Ny the time we arrived on either end, I wanted off. Not enough recline in the seats at all. People want to nap and those seats just dont allow it. I don't want to ride in a sport car seat to Chicago. Otherwise, they seem to ride smooth and the bathrooms are nice. Im really disappointed in the seating.
@kevinrush44115 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. (It would be nice if some of the train insiders jargon was explained for us newbies.)
@theobrattinga5005 ай бұрын
Great video.
@limoments40755 ай бұрын
I was on that route, the Borealis, on May 23rd, from Chicago to St. Paul. We got to South St. Paul, almost there, and our arrival in downtown St. Paul was delayed by 2 hours due to a stopped freight train ahead. I may take the bus the next time 😮
@Grahamrobinsonvt8025 ай бұрын
Great new train hype
@IndustrialParrot28165 ай бұрын
But it's all older Rolling Stock, I don't think anything on that train is newer than 20 years because Amtrak is still waiting on more New Equipment
@alexandrac5915 ай бұрын
I'm so excited for you!
@jeffskow64433 ай бұрын
Bringing more fine people from Chicago to Minnesota one trainfull at a time
@jfmezei5 ай бұрын
In the mid 1990s, federal budget cutbacks resulted in states having to fund many train routes. Amtrak Midwest was created to manage state sponsored train in Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Missouri and given its own fleet. Amtrak California was the same, and in the pacific northwest, states of Oregon and Washington got a hybrid where they managed fleet but the Cascades remains a Amtrak train. Some years ago, Amtrak California and Amtrak Midwest placed a joint order for new modern trains from asia. When at last minute, these trains could not meet FRA standards that require train be heavy, slow and built like freight train, there was a deadline to spend the money and the only FRA train availabel at the time were the cars produced by Siemens for Brightline ( older Viaggios downgraded to meet FRA standards). So Amtrak California and Midwest placed that order. (and techhically 2 separate orders since their configs are different). They have had a LOT of difficulty getting those Siemens trains to be reliable and until recently, didn't have a single business class or café car ready for service. Amtrak itself placed orders for such Venture cars that will be branded as "Airo" but none received yet (but Amtrak does have Charger locos for long distance trains which it still operates under federal budget). So when Amtrak Midwest had to start the service to Minniapolis/St-Paul, it had to draw from its own fleet which is mostly Horizon Cars. Amtrak had placed orders for Amfleet 1 and Amfleet 2 with Budd. But by the time it needed more, Budd was gone and its designs had been bought by Bombardier which was building Comet commuter cars for various agencies. Amtrak ordered a bunch of them with a Amtrak config inside and they wer called Horizon. That is all that was available at the time. Amtrak has given those to those state services such as Midwest, California and now the Pacific Northwest. (Oregon/Washington had managed to order modern/light Talgo trainsets and got FRA exemption, but after a derailment, politicians intervened and called these foreig imports unsafe and the Cascades was downgraded to Horizon, as well as 1 or 2 remaining all-steel heavy Talgos that Talgo had begun to build in USA to meet FRA stadards before contract was cancelled and Talgo told the USA to get lost after losing so much money building a USA specific plant and USA specific train model with USA spefic "made in USA" components. ) In december 2018, the FRA relented and updated its rules to allow certain odern trains on certain lines with manu conditions (this was after Amtrak had already ordered Pendolinos coachs pulled by TGV-M locos and branded as Avelia Liberty so FRA had to find a way to approve those).
@brandon-fl5 ай бұрын
Welcome back T
@josephr95515 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@truckerkevthepaidtourist5 ай бұрын
This is basically the old North Star without going from Saint Paul to Duluth
@ViewpointUnique5 ай бұрын
I just rode the Venture coaches for the first time last week. The seats are absolutely awful. I'll take Amfleet and Horizon coaches any day just for that aspect.
@Henry-loves-trains5 ай бұрын
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@NWAWskeptic5 ай бұрын
Interesting thing about some of those windows in main atrium, those are actual residences. People live there in very nice modern lofts. Downside; for those particular units those windows are the only windows the unit has and the only natural light is via skylights.
@Inkyminkyzizwoz5 ай бұрын
Amtrak Borealis? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localised entirely within your video?
@crowmob-yo6ry5 ай бұрын
In your face, Scott Walker!!!!😆
@chazstrauch97125 ай бұрын
How about the maga moron with the inverted flag in Red Wing?
@damcoentertainment39565 ай бұрын
Who's that?
@EzraM55 ай бұрын
@@damcoentertainment3956 Republican Governor of Wisconsin with textbook Republican values, AKA: fuck you got mine.
@vanhagar30005 ай бұрын
Everyone can stop, this guy won the comments.
@xr6lad5 ай бұрын
@@EzraM5as against Democrat values of ‘everything you’ve worked for is mine to give away to someone that can’t be bothered to work’ and ‘you are guilty of anything any other demographic decides you are guilty of even if you had no hand in it’ values?
@operandimodus3 ай бұрын
Glad you covered this route; I've been excited about it and second your hopeful prediction that more times will be added. Don't you think this would be the perfect route for Amtrak to experiment with a more affordable night train offering? Well, an American midwesterner can dream . . .
@CHAuto3335 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Finally MN has more rail capacity but is nowhere as close to SBB which I frequent during summer months. How did you get to MN in the first place? Did you fly in?
@IndustrialParrot28165 ай бұрын
He started in Chicago oh wait no
@kevinb88815 ай бұрын
Metra should invest into some Siemens Chargers SC-44s!!
@kevinb88815 ай бұрын
@@shauntrailskinner9645 The P42s racked up a lot of miles over the years and still reliable!!
@IndustrialParrot28165 ай бұрын
They won't, Metra only buys locomotives with EMD prime movers which have been illegal to manufacture since 2005 the SC44 uses a Cummins QSK95
@evanf12935 ай бұрын
12:09 they're there for work and maintenance
@LouisChang-le7xo5 ай бұрын
I guess the reason why they stuck with horizons and not ventures is because venture seats are basically glorified commuter seats unfit for a 7hr journey, whereas horizon seats are almost of amfleet quality being decades old recliners. But maybe Amtrak should have thought it through when they ordered new trains...
@cadlac15333 ай бұрын
Wanna try ASAP! 😅
@jpzirngibl5 ай бұрын
It needs to go to Eau Claire
@noredmx15155 ай бұрын
Any delays getting to Chicago? Merci monsieur!
@oscarconnecticut14605 ай бұрын
Nice video as always. I took the San Joaquins from Oakland to Bakersfield. 7 hours in new Venture cars. Modern, yes, but meh... not specially comfortable for longer rides, I should say.
@maestromecanico5975 ай бұрын
The Midwest Venture stock was purchased by the states in which they run. Minnesota was not one of those states. As of this writing there are no additions to the original 88 Midwest fleet.
@AMPProf5 ай бұрын
Aww yahh 'MERICAAAAAAA
@Midwest_Urbanist5 ай бұрын
The MetroLink cars were on their way to Talgo for refurbishing
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife5 ай бұрын
Im assuming that the Borealis will event switch over to Siemens Venture / Siemens Charger. Rhay wpuld be my hope at least. One thing i am not sure about is if this is an amtrak midwest or national amtrak thing? If it is not amtrak midwest it will probably take longer to see the new rolling stock.
@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi5 ай бұрын
Boa tarde boa viagem no trem amtrak simplys 1:48 Chicago
@OhTheNormanity5 ай бұрын
That goes through the town I live in. The trouble with train service is that it is very slow. We need high spped rail for those distances. I grew up in the UK and in the 80's the trains could go 125mph. Don't think the US has ever been that high and 125, frankly not that great anymore either,
@lalakersproАй бұрын
US trains go up to 150 mph.
@OhTheNormanityАй бұрын
@@lalakersprowell the Milwaukee to Chicago service certainly doesn’t go anywhere close to that.
@tibbers3755Ай бұрын
Amtrak would have to damn there physically fight the freight lines to get those tracks upgraded enough for higher speed
@aprilm.12773 ай бұрын
I was really excited about this, until I looked it up. It's quicker to drive. I really wish we had high speed trains here in the US. :(
@johnsons74thsquadron745 ай бұрын
I’m glad that the Borealis is using Horizons. St. Paul to Chicago would be a long trip in the Venture cars, which are absolutely a downgrade in comfort compared to Horizons and Amfleets!
@andrealauer44935 ай бұрын
Haha apparently I watch enough Simply Railway videos to have gotten to know Thibault's fashion style 🤣 when it got to the part of the video where he sat in the seat, I actually said out loud to myself "hmm what is he wearing?" Lol of course he looked different, because it wasn't him!
@silveradocyn30825 ай бұрын
I hope they extend the service up to Duluth!
@IndustrialParrot28165 ай бұрын
That'll be a Different Train which is being Worked on
@megans87875 ай бұрын
I think it’s still more expensive than a family of 3 driving to go back and forth for a weekend.
@NWAWskeptic5 ай бұрын
Most likely. But as someone who’s had family roadtrips, there’s value in not having to drive. Especially with younger kids where you can more closely share that travel time with them. Most trips I’ve had with the younger kids, they were excited for the trip and when they’re bored it’s easier to entertain them when you don’t have the burden of driving. But there’s also value in unplanned side trips enroute when driving. So probably just a matter of preference.
@gdrriley4205 ай бұрын
Metrolink cars are getting rebuild by talgo in Milwaukee. Metrolink rightfully has amtrak move them as the cars brakes don't play nicely with the typical freight release setup and class 1s love giving passenger cars flat wheels.
@SharpSharp-z6v5 ай бұрын
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@raymondmuench32665 ай бұрын
What is the coach fare on the Borealis compared to the Empire Builder for the same trip?
@nbajammer25 ай бұрын
$43 on the Borealis, $77 on the Builder with advanced purchase
@lalakerspro5 ай бұрын
you arent allowed to ride the empire builder just from st paul to chicago
@dukctape5 ай бұрын
@@lalakerspro yes you are
@randyjohnson27945 ай бұрын
@@nbajammer2 If you look further out - the cost is the same for either train in coach.
@coast_to_coast_photos5 ай бұрын
I believe the reason there isn’t an ALC-42 leading is because this would be considered a regional service and the ALC-42’s are designated for the long-distance routes.
@RascalTrainz5 ай бұрын
What about the SC44s?
@coast_to_coast_photos5 ай бұрын
@@RascalTrainz Those are used on commuter routes so I wouldn’t be surprised to see them on this new service at some point.
@lalakerspro5 ай бұрын
@@coast_to_coast_photos not really commuter, but regional. Amtrak doesnt actually run any "commuter trains"