An EPIC Late Game Battle! | Polytopia Competitive 1v1 Vs. Chris

Hey guys, GullYY here! Welcome back to another epic Polytopia video! In this video, we take on Chris, a Pro Player for the Krakens team on PolyChampions. What ensues is an epic late game battle, and a good learning experience! I hope you enjoy! Oh, and tell me in the comments what you think of this video format.
PolyChampions explanation: PolyChampions is a team-based competitive league for The Battle of Polytopia. Each team has a division of Junior and Pro players. Pro players demonstrate outstanding skill and understanding of the game; they are the best of the best. Chris is a Pro player for the Krakens team, and was recently elected as team leader as well. So yes, he's a very good player lol.
If you are good at Polytopia or want to get better, definitely consider joining the PolyChampions Discord server. I've gotten a lot better at Polytopia since I joined, and more importantly, I've made a ton of new friends! Invite Link: / discord
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Video Name: An EPIC Late Game Battle! | Polytopia Competitive 1v1 Vs. Chris

[@GullYYGamer]

Hey guys, be sure to check out the PolyChampions Discord server! Link: discord.gg/2Uxd7SbHJP Also, here's the replay of the game if you want to watch it yourself: share.polytopia.io/g/9910463d-3166-4f13-e697-08dae2babbc5

[@craig_menear5796]

What polychamps team are you on

[@csantoro7738]

@@craig_menear5796 He's on Kraken

[@sevrothegoblin5212]

I don't have the time to join poly champions but this has to be the best content I've seen from you. As I'm watching the replay I notice stuff right before you comment on it. - Why didn't you preserve that critical city in the early game -> Explains mistake - Woah why did the catapult line go back -> (I haven't finished the video yet (18:55) but I figure it's another bait because he is going for chivalry when you go for your knight push. Makes more sense that he just has bad vision and would rather play deeper defence) you point it out - Why aren't you pressuring that Eastern city?? -> Bad catapult placement. I honestly think after you had knights ready for so long you were just subconsciously concerned with your chain placement - I actually didn't see the micro chain, awesome! Seeing your critical analysis in hindsight is just so much better! Especially against a player that is actually presenting a very hard defense (one that probably would get frustrated trying to break) and I hope to see more content like this! I rage quit after the Diplo Derby (I'm ZaiquiriW) and haven't played in some time but man am I feeling it now. One day... poly champions.

[@csantoro7738]

@@sevrothegoblin5212 Hey Zaiquiri! Thanks for the comment! GullYY and I talked at length about this game (as he said), and I'm glad that you got something from it. I noticed you're wondering why I shifted my catapult line back. At that time in the game, I did have enough vision, but I was concerned about the fact that GullYY had, at that point, amassed enough knights to kill one of my giants and chain through my catapults. As I had too many catapults to space them out properly, I needed to make sure that he didn't have the opportunity to go for a chain. Simultaneously, I was hoping that he would send in the giants he was using for ZoC (Zone of Control) in the center to attack my cap, because then I could begin picking them off by having enough angles of attack to use knights. This ended up working quite well.

[@sevrothegoblin5212]

@@csantoro7738 I was talking with my partner about how baiting him with the initial knight on the right basically proved he would push with his giants and give you an opening (eventually). Honestly just forgot to type the part about you not having vision. Really GG

[@csantoro7738]

This was a great game. I won't leave a lengthy comment since I thought the video really covered all of the important things we talked about, but just know that I'm really happy with your improvement! :D - Chris If you want a quick easter egg, on turn 10, I misclick my warrior and move it NE instead of N. I was pretty upset about that lol

[@GullYYGamer]

Thanks for the game, Chris!

[@csantoro7738]

@@GullYYGamer Anytime!

[@zachs5336]

This is a great video format as you can explain your mistakes as you make them

[@patricktheaveragejoe6107]

Yeah! I like this format!

[@GullYYGamer]

Agreed!

[@maxzhang1555]

I too love this format :)

[@homemadefilms5718]

This is like how pixelated apollo makes his videos

[@justeenilingueeni123]

I think an interesting takeaway that you didn't comment on is how important it is to minmax your economy. Chris had perfect use of forestry throughout the game from what I could see. Every single one of his cities has perfectly gotten to its highest possible level (or had the potential to do so) with monuments accounted for as well, and all access trees were chopped. On your side there were a lot of unchopped trees, leaving you with a lot of unused stars every turn that could've been used in critical situations, and a few cities that could produce an easy giant simply didn't make one. Another potentially big play with chopping you could've made was at 11:30 where you could chop all the trees in the city you're about to lose, getting 2 free stars and ensuring the opponent can only get it to level 2 (which they need roads for as well) and making level 3 only possible with a monument (which he needs for giants). I quite enjoy this replay analysis, and I hope to see more in the future :)

[@csantoro7738]

Hey Justeeni! Great point about minmaxing eco. I did calculate out each giant, and if you want, I'll DM you the replay file on discord you so can see my side. As for the chopping play, yes he absolutely could have done that. It was most likely a tunnel vision mistake, where he perceived the city as lost and thus focused on other parts of the game. I absolutely agree that it would have been an excellent play, even moreso because it would have removed the forests I needed to stop his knights from slipping through.

[@GullYYGamer]

@@csantoro7738 Didn't even consider the rough terrain implications for failing to chop in the city I lost, that's a great point

[@tomatofrog5108]

@@GullYYGamer ya know engage in a scorched earth earth policy

[@jonahhofmeyr8306]

Gully has a monopoly over polytopia videos it's just him everywhere now he just needs to do a bunch of tutorials

[@samueltrusik3251]

FINALLY! I have yet to see a proper late-game match. I LOVE THIS.

[@realtimestatic]

I personally really like this type of content because it shows us a match with an actual difficult opponent although I would like to see you talk about your thoughts while playing the game and then discussing it afterwards

[@thephill_osopher7245]

I love this format! Especially for strategically complex matches like this one. A balanced mix of these, live multiplayer, and some fun challenges or other bot content i think would be an awesome plan :)

[@GullYYGamer]

I agree!

[@gregordroge6309]

I like the match review format. Maybe you could let it run through both perspectives? It might be more interesting to see the other person's view on what is happening and what their plan might be. To be honest, it was a bit too much analysis for me. I like it better when you briefly touch your mistakes and set the focus more on the plants you both have. Great video Gully!

[@GullYYGamer]

Thank you! I had initally planned to run through both sides separately, but the video would have been too long. I like this format where you see the same perspective as me, that way we're working with the same vision of the map

[@hellabisys]

I really enjoy this format, since you can have all your thoughts about the game collected beforehand, and also you can pick and choose only games that you found interesting, instead of recording a game and hoping it turns out interesting. Hoping for more :>

[@GullYYGamer]

You're absolutely correct, it's gonna lead to some awesome videos

[@04dude3]

It's really cool seeing high level gameplay and the later phases of the game that's more focused on unit movement and stuff. Super informative and interesting!

[@GullYYGamer]

Glad you enjoyed, more to come

[@jgg4719]

I learned quite a lot from this video. Great job!!

[@GullYYGamer]

Thanks!

[@crystalia9944]

I do like the idea of you commentating on mistakes that you made so we can learn from them, but also I enjoy live commentary a lot more than whatever not-live commentary is called. That's kinda my main issue with this format. Maybe you could do live commentary but add in segments of future you explaining mistakes? I also like the idea of us seeing from both perspectives instead of just one. I think it would be nice if you try out multiple options over the next few videos and see what works for you. It also might be nice for the viewers if you don't just pick one so that we can get some variety. However, it's obviously totally up to you, and pick whatever works for you.

[@csantoro7738]

One thing that's really difficult about doing live commentary is that usually these games are not played in 1 sitting. This game, in fact, was played over the course of about 1 week, meaning that for GullYY to do live commentary he would have had to sit down and record himself each turn, which is a little bit inconvenient. However, with the new live game format, I'm sure I could set up another game with him if he wants to do a live recording for a video!

[@GullYYGamer]

Good idea, the only issue is I play way worse when I'm doing live commentary, especially in a game like this one where I need to think a whole lot. Given the turn timer I probably wouldn't have time to say much of anything

[@zulianfr]

I loved watching this video ! Definitively interesting to see high level gameplay and strategy commentary

[@GullYYGamer]

Hey, glad you enjoyed it!

[@galadrootfs9397]

If you want to see more strategy commentary checkout the polychampions youtube channel

[@zulianfr]

@@galadrootfs9397 thanks

[@zeploin7642]

Much better than our xin game, thanks for the tips. Best advice i got from this video was to join plague on polychamps

[@GullYYGamer]

Kraken 4 life

[@12d89]

Omg zeploin, Nova gang btw

[@csantoro7738]

:thinkies:

[@titanmesozoicgd6943]

I think you should also show the other side’s perspective as well. Can also see what they done and speculate what their thought process would be along with mistakes they made.

[@csantoro7738]

If you have any specific questions, you can ask them! I'll leave an answer when I have the time :) - Chris

[@GullYYGamer]

I could maybe try this in the future, I'm afraid the video would be really long though

[@titanmesozoicgd6943]

@@GullYYGamer maybe you could also look at highlights of best and worst moments.

[@AyanKhan-ge4fp]

@@GullYYGamer how about not providing the detailed perspective of your opponent but only the important points. It would not even take 5 minutes that way and a 5 minutes increment isn't very huge too.

[@thephill_osopher7245]

Great work gully! Keep the videos rolling, I just love to see your gameplay!

[@GullYYGamer]

Much appreciated

[@nomirrors3552]

I really enjoy this content format. I would like to understand more of the early game thoughts because I'm still starting as a player and I don't understand the tradeoff of the different tech choices and the possible implications or spamming units vs. tech improvements.

[@spiderforest6148]

love your videos, keep up the great work :D. I also liked the educational feel of this video, helps with learning more on the game

[@jakubsloka8589]

Loooooove this channel, content, comments. Please, never stop uploading polytopia. Such a good game. I learnt a lot! Good game Well played

[@stermenskysimon4559]

I personally enjoy this type of content, quality gameplay, explanatory, etc.. nice video

[@AcidBathX_YOLO]

I loved this format & video! I am in the Polytopia discord servers and trying to get better at Polaris. I have been watching for years now & love your content! Please keep making videos like this as they help me and other semi-noob pros get better!

[@leodoin1]

Amazing content. Pls keep it up!

[@GullYYGamer]

Will do

[@coltonsupergame]

The most important part of late game warfare is catapult placement as shown by this video and if Gully had placed his catapults a bit better he probably could have won.

[@csantoro7738]

Indeed! I spent a long time thinking about catapult placement this game. It definitely contributed to my ability to defend.

[@jakobschoch2141]

really enjoyed the video format! far more interesting to watch The HP are sometimes difficult to tell on the phone, maybe you could zoome in from time to time whenever there is an interesting play?

[@GullYYGamer]

Will keep this in mind for these types of videos, thanks for the feedback

[@edmargameplays672]

Now this a type of video I would watch!

[@skanaw9050]

I love this format; thanks a lot!

[@GullYYGamer]

Of course, thank you!!

[@rocketmoon2717]

I loved this video! Keep this type of content:D

[@GullYYGamer]

Will do, thanks for watching

[@thinman9849]

i like this type of format,ice video!

[@GullYYGamer]

Thanks

[@joesmith9920]

As a polychamps junior who hates social interaction, this is a much more convenient method of learning from pro players, even if indirectly. I'm not sure if team games would make for good videos, but I would eagerly watch those as well if they had commentary like this.

[@ondrejnovotny196]

One of the best videos of yours, learned a lot. Thanks

[@karlpflug4374]

I love it. I want more of this format. actually eduactional. Only thing being, make sure you don't stop. The rapid fire pace is the only way to go

[@Apmarinos]

Man these are the videos I subscribed for man! Win or lose its fun to analyse ones strategy and decisions. Also if you want to take it up a notch a live match could be it (not to pressure you though man whatever a man can do). Anyways good job and keep it up!

[@GullYYGamer]

Only issue is I play way worse when I commentate during the match and I play worse during live games lol. Thanks for watching

[@Apmarinos]

@@GullYYGamer Just that you showed a lost match and kept your cool man shows a lot. Don't do anything you don't want. Motivational stuff aside this concept is my favourite. Thx!

[@csantoro7738]

@@Apmarinos A loss is only truly a loss if nothing is learned :). That's my philosophy on these things.

[@mefrosty5658]

I definitely like the video format, it helps me to improve my game now that tournaments are out!

[@calebnorgaard7788]

Loved this format. Helps with you previously reviewing the game vs your live thoughts

[@Quincy5191]

Lets go another epic Polytopia video

[@thomas.edgerton]

this video earns a sub. Look forward to seeing more.

[@aa01blue38]

7:20 lol, I didn't expect to see Aquafire, a competitive Bloons tower defense battles player, to be a fan of your channel as well, small world isn't it :P

[@bankerpiggy4721]

I love this format, I feel like i gained intelligence after watching this.

[@wxntonko5365]

W vid. Love this kind of content would like to see more of it though...

[@joeschroedernz]

This was way better. Thank you for showing a loss. Much more to learn from.

[@Tolbby]

Great game! Look forward to watching more!

[@timonroehrbacher]

i love this format! pls more :D

[@adamlecat107]

love this new format gully

[@GullYYGamer]

Thanks!

[@Turtlewax88]

That was a great video, way more interresting then watch you steamrolling noobs in 12 turns ;-)

[@TheHouseCrusher]

Hey Gully! If doing this works for you and helps with your storage space! In my opinion, I like it! Also! Happy new year!

[@GullYYGamer]

Thanks, Happy new year to you as well!

[@laspoty3483]

Great format, I´ve learnt so much just from this single video. Letting the opposing player comment as well would be cool tho. It would make a nice 3hr movie lol.

[@GullYYGamer]

Good idea, though maybe not a 3 hour video lol

[@josephbennett6675]

Educational videos like this one are great. Keep it up!

[@ethanjones6183]

Loved this format. Please do more like it!

[@GullYYGamer]

For sure!

[@nandorpeto4314]

Same

[@jaafit]

Great format and analysis!

[@paulozaurusrex2719]

Love the format also I just like 1v1s more than those challenges

[@dustscythe7702]

I think it's a great format on strategy, and this is a silly complaint but it's kinda hard to see everything from the map zoomed out. Might just be me though, I think of a mix of this and real time games would be great, or a real time followed by analysis

[@shellshockthelagiacrus3247]

It's cool to see just how much you have to think in this game. Didn't think it'd be so high level but it really does make sense. I just started playing the game after occasionally playing it with friends in school years ago. Is that discord server that you were mentioning fine for new players to join or is it basically only for those that have a high amount of knowledge and skill in the game?

[@GullYYGamer]

People of all skill levels are welcome, brand new beginner or experienced pros. There are tons of people who are willing to help you learn!

[@theqoulyv4192]

Yeah shutting him down early game when he was getting pushed out of the map was your best chance to win, though it would have been difficult to do considering how far stretched out you were. Fantastic game

[@freyhebert5947]

Spies are probably the best late game unit. Everyone’s cities are bigger (more daggers) and in a late game attrition fight where everything’s about getting the small placement advantages, a spy is the best way to either launch a surgical strike to take a single city with a lot of force, or to wreak havoc behind lines. defense bonus daggers aren’t chain kill-able by knight at full health, and you can if not take out catapults, you distract them from your giants. Plus you’re damaging your opponents economy. You’d need to be building one or two spies on the regular, but having a couple less catapults or knights is worth it In this game, that northwest city you couldn’t attack, well if you had a spy instead of one of those catapults, you could’ve been threatening to take it. When he attacked your central city with all those units hidden in the clouds, it was basically a more expensive spy surprise attack (and that’s the move after which you resigned) Ok I’m obviously biased, cause spies are my personal favorite strategy, but I’m a decent player, have beaten people ranked considerably higher than me with it, and using spies late game has so far always worked (trying to rush diplomacy early games a different story, don’t recommend unless you’re rushing embassies in games with lots of people)

[@csantoro7738]

Hey Frey! In my experience, you are mostly correct about cloaks. However, there is one problem here, and that is deciding when to go for cloaks. There are generally stages to these kinds of endgames, and most will start with mathematics, which induces chivalry as a response (chivalry is and will probably always be the best counter to catapults). Because of this natural tech progression, which most tribes follow, there is never really a good opportunity prior to knights and catapults to go for Diplomacy, especially in a 1v1 where embassies provide no value. Thus, although cloaks are very effective, this game did not go on long enough for them to be a good investment. Remember, getting the technology would basically take a turn's worth of income, which is simply not feasible in a game state where maxing out on units is pretty much required to maintain pressure.

[@v1dal]

Yes we like this format 👍🏼 :)

[@skyethecat7366]

I like this style of video a lot :) Yadakk next???????

[@remcovanhartevelt588]

I like that you play someone capable once in a while. only thing is that i watch on my phone and cant zoom in properly 😭

[@maxzhang1555]

Nice commentary!

[@djbagman]

I like the format. But also I enjoy the real time games. Maybe the regular game and then go back to do an (A)fter (A)ction (R)eview (AAR) on key turns that turned the tides of battle and why they are pivotal. I'm a good bad player

[@yunusatir]

Oh god it has been SO LONG since i have played polytopia

[@mellrex2087]

great video

[@the_rock]

love it

[@McNottagoose]

Perfect format

[@singpizza8547]

I like this format

[@masterboy3077]

I LOVE THIS PLS MORE

[@tltiger]

I liked this video. It would be nice if polytopia let you click on stuff in replays tho.

[@SLokutaR]

Idk if you still read these comments, but a tip from another polytuber is go to advanced settings and change your ui scale so we can see more of the map

[@marrottw8018]

Gully is such a nice KZbinr

[@GullYYGamer]

Thanks 😄

[@marrottw8018]

@@GullYYGamer best KZbinr fr

[@lilchris6974]

I'm defo joining that discord server

[@learnalwaysstayhumble7354]

100% more of this!!

[@GullYYGamer]

You got it!

[@RaiNBowShine999]

Yo Gully. I have a video idea. Polytopia against bots but you only do moves from Suggestions. You know the Suggestions option in game. And maybe also do it in multiplayer. And also try playing Pacific Front.

[@Youmu_Konpaku_]

Pretty interesting match

[@rhinocraft2594]

Happy new year!

[@GullYYGamer]

Same to you!

[@dbwkdidwbsof]

did my guy say "polytopia career"

[@GullYYGamer]

Sure did

[@dbwkdidwbsof]

@@GullYYGamer pretty sure you're the only one besides midjiwan & Co. that has an actual polytopia career

[@csantoro7738]

@@dbwkdidwbsof Depends on your definition of career 😉. But if you're referring to making money, then yeah very few people have a career in Polytopia.

[@trollerthegreattrollertheg6234]

Nice though I prefer the live game rather than the replay. It allows for more funny moments as well as active thought

[@Alfred-st1sp]

Nice video

[@thegrandestbazaar4800]

Very good

[@umcaraabaixode155m5]

make the 20 skip turns chalenge in big map with the cymanty tribe against one bot this is gonna be hard

[@mysticcr8tor773]

I did something like that once, I allied with a few bots when I could start playing, I knocked out a bot or two, then I just absolutely demolished the rest of the bots.

[@umcaraabaixode155m5]

@@mysticcr8tor773 how you survive 20 turns whit more than one bot?

[@mysticcr8tor773]

@@umcaraabaixode155m5 getting a bit lucky, most of my neighbors didn't attack me so I could expand, also if you mean by "big map" you meant massive, that's what I did it on. Tho it was a long time ago so cymanti didn't get the explosion nerf 😅. I think I did it on continents or archipelago.

[@umcaraabaixode155m5]

@@mysticcr8tor773 oh i maked in the huge map not in massive but you need luck to make this chalenge

[@mysticcr8tor773]

@@umcaraabaixode155m5 very true

[@gaopinghu7332]

What are some efficient ways to deal with a giant (either killing, forcing it to retreat or heavily injuring it)? I saw you hitting them with swordmans, when should that be done and when should it not? If you can, can you answer this more general answer: if an attack doesn't kill the enemy, in which situations is that attack good?

[@mysticcr8tor773]

Lowering the amount of damage they can return, a giant does more watch damage then defending damage, that's why you typically avoid putting your Giants next to your opponents giants. Also done units just have overall terrible defense but have good amounts of damage (knights, riders, catupults, etc) if you hot then before they attack they will do way less damage later then what you received when you hit them (especially catapults). It's all about making so they can't hit hard back.

[@gaopinghu7332]

@@mysticcr8tor773 thank you.

[@EM16331]

thanks!

[@justalotofjibberrish3530]

this is giggamonke

[@patrickmartin4600]

19:27 dude, one cloak and Chris would be in so much trouble you throw all units and while you do that you train cloak and put it there, not capture but threat and Chris would get scared and would not leave empty citys and TA-DA you can hit them with knights

[@patrickmartin4600]

And if not you will do more cloak action on more palces, i love thet unit! Makes enemyies paranoid and if not i can non-stop flood my enemyies with dagerrs and bad gramar...!!!😁😆

[@ApexPredator283]

Why dont you use City Walls? These can bei so effective for your troups in the Long Term.

[@louistan8707]

enjoy

[@nandorpeto4314]

Best

[@dogepuff5769]

Wait you are the minesurvival guy right?

[@NewAccount-tq5tg]

Idk how good this is but I beat a 1 enemy domination on turn 3

[@SushiPrefix]

How to fight against bardur? I’ve been playing a few games using yadakk and lose to bardur every time. I can’t stop those giants and catapults. My opponent could get a giant on turn 7-9, and I am still using rider to expand.

[@gaopinghu7332]

Bardur is one of the best tribes, so it's normal to get overwhelmed. Not sure about how you could overcome them, I'm not a good player.

[@csantoro7738]

Unless you get an excellent spawn, Bardur will usually win out over Yadakk. Because Bardur can level up their capital on turn 0, it enables a technology progression that sets up early giants and quick expansion. Imperius and Kickoo have similar capabilites, although Kickoo is much stronger on maps with more water.

[@leebagley2617]

I wish you recorded it live

[@mefrosty5658]

are you gonna talk about how live games dont give you enough time?

[@phabidz]

Why didn't you use cloak?

[@brizkitnull]

Me like

[@RaiNBowShine999]

Pls try playing Pacific front

[@melvinredoble2001]

What is your elo gully?

[@phabidz]

Funny haha meme

[@FAZE_ICE873]

how to download the game on pc

[@mysticcr8tor773]

I wonder if there's a 2k elo player yet 🤔

[@GullYYGamer]

In game, yes

[@mysticcr8tor773]

@@GullYYGamer dang, they must play a lot

[@csantoro7738]

@@mysticcr8tor773 they stopped playing on that account a while back, I think it's been a few months since they logged into that account. Their current account is about 1500 in-game ELO if I remember correctly. There are other top players in the 1900s though, and most of them probably have 1000+ hours in the game.

[@wheremycoffee]

great game but actually not a fan of this format. i think it lacked the interactivity and live-reaction the og format had. this was probably more of a reflection hindsight thing and probably more educational in terms of strategy

[@jonahhofmeyr8306]

Ninth