An Extremely Normal Game, Nothing to See Here... Patrick's Parabox!

Patrick's Parabox Part 5 - tackling the hardest section yet - Transfer! Taking everything we learned from Clone and Center, and combining it all into a clever new mechanic. Don't let your brain turn into soup.
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[@Aliensrock]

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[@rupert_1491]

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[@Rcooper-pu9fw]

Hi Tyler

[@burndabus]

Yo your on r/place

[@arunchebrolu1113]

I think you're not giving yourself enough credit for how well you're explaining this. You may want to use the click to zoom in/out feature more though. Mostly out, it's very difficult to picture outside of the current level

[@arandomcommenter6759]

Deez

[@KR_Kosmik]

I like how you call room to grow a "long cactus" game as if long cactus is an entire genre of game

[@jasontaemon8598]

Long cactus game was nice :)

[@aloysiuskurnia7643]

"The game about long cactuses for people with long brains" - Aliensrock

[@beaclaster]

when did?

[@affegpus4195]

Oh yeah long cactus game, my favorite genre after sideways arthropod game

[@columbus8myhw]

@@affegpus4195 What's sideways arthropod game?

[@aa01blue38]

The clone mechanic is actually simple: when you enter it, you enter every clone, but when you exit it, you only exit the main

[@UltraLuigi2401]

Exactly, just remember that the clone mechanic only exists to prevent duplication of things exiting it, so things exist in every copy simultaneously, but when exiting, the ones in the clones are erased.

[@BlackbirdSJ]

I just imagine the clone as a video of the real one, so it just looks like it (but also you can tp to the real one by entering)

[@thepeanuts55]

For me it makes more sense to not think of clones as levels since you're never inside a clone at all. It's like when making a shortcut for a big program, you're not creating a second program with 10 new gigabytes of data, it just contains a link that redirects to the program.

[@doomse150]

I like to think of it as a proxy to the real level, similar to the ones used in computer networks. It pretends to be the real level by (visually) mimicing its contents but it redirects every interaction (entering the proxy) to the real level and does that implicitly and seamlessly.

[@slapusillydawg]

Clone isn't the best name imo, I think "portal" is better. It's a portal that takes you to the real block.

[@ÞeSheep1]

Wow, I can’t wait to play “Setting out boxes in ways that let you and other boxes go to their goals using boxes within boxes” 0:33

[@snownmen4403]

Nothing in a grid-based puzzle game is scarier than breaking the grid. It's like the whole point of guessing what happens next in any puzzle game and everything you've learnt is broken (not literally tho). But that's what make it differs, and that's really cool.

[@readypickles]

Can’t wait to see what fresh hell my mind has to try to understand next!

[@AexisRai]

"Open" and the two worlds after it have simple concepts. The ones after that though...

[@greenbirdmusic7495]

cant wait for you to see the last 3 worlds, the infiniteness of them is insane!

[@readypickles]

@@greenbirdmusic7495 This game has so much potential for insanity, I genuinely can’t wait for the rest of it. I always love whenever you start reaching the end of a puzzle game and it starts pulling out all the stops and flips everything you’ve learned on its head!

[@flatfingertuning727]

There is a setting to turn on a visual grid, which I think makes it much easier to see what's going on in some levels where grid cells are otherwise featureless.

[@antoniotrivelloni8191]

Discovering each new mechanic makes me wonder, was this possible before, and if so, could it have made certain puzzles easier? Edit: What in the asymmetric SAM FUCK was that MONSTROSITY at 19:10?!

[@bengoodwin2141]

Maybe there are even special secret things to do in previous areas?

[@apollofulbright3484]

In the last episode, I remember trying to directly go from one level-box to another just pushed one of them. So they didn’t retroactively add new mechanics to old levels I suppose

[@deividymario2408]

On some levels yeah.

[@technorazor976]

I think the previous levels were designed so you wouldn't run into these cases, but it would be really cool if knowledge of these mechanics do actually unlock new levels from previous levels, kind of like A Monster's Expedition.

[@apollofulbright3484]

Oh never mind I just realized that the boxes weren’t placed properly for that to happen

[@sighmon5640]

"we can do 2 worlds in the next episode as long as this doesnt absolutely destroy my brain" thats what we in the biz call foreshadowing folx

[@redpepper74]

for me open was kind of difficult for being so small. the next one is pretty long also.

[@bellaander]

as someone who watched the newer episode before this one, i thought the same thing

[@aloysiuskurnia7643]

What I love from this game is this game introduces new mechanics without introducing any new objects

[@btf_flotsam478]

Kudos to how this game completely changed the type of puzzle and what part of the brain it worked while still staying strictly as the same game with the same mechanics. I don't think any other puzzle game did it quite this well; Baba Is You never switched styles like this, while The Witness had it be radically new rules each time.

[@airtoumfake]

Yeah, the puzzle at 8:54 stumped me for a long while, too. It's a great puzzle

[@creativenametxt2960]

As a person who like programming, the clone isn't actually different from the main level. The only difference is on exiting the level: you can't end up in 2 places at once (at least not yet, I guess), so there always has to be exactly one place for you to exit. That's the main level. It only matters for exits, as far as I can tell.

[@Zebo12345678]

I can follow along the logic _visually,_ but trying to explain it with words is as impossible a task as finding the smallest block in a recursive level.

[@infiniteplanes5775]

The guisit of the level?

[@thealmanancy9020]

Finding the smallest block in a recursive level is actually pretty simple when you push the blocks into the void

[@tinfox2]

I just realized the levels showing the even inceptions have even dimensions themselves This game is genius

[@justthomas2488]

I would call the red border levels the ultimate test on what the mechanic your learning, so basically a test

[@papplefarm20]

then blue border levels just entirely change the game you are playing sometimes

[@thatoneguy9582]

@@papplefarm20 blue border is just a gimmick level i think

[@Snow4Leopards]

Noooooo... It messes with my precious grid. I love it! Now do I understand what you explain? Yes. Could I figure it out myself? questionable.

[@LaffierTaffer]

My main gripe with this game so far was that puzzles seemed really easy once the mechanics make sense. Glad to see that they're coming through with the real brain melters now

[@justthomas2488]

Yes, that is how games work, the first stages are easier then the end game stages…

[@LaffierTaffer]

@@justthomas2488 Sorry, let me correct myself, the puzzles seemed TOO easy before this point, glad to see that they're reaching the kind of difficulty I'd expect from puzzles of this style

[@justthomas2488]

@@LaffierTaffer ohh ok gotcha ya now

[@nataly_171]

@@LaffierTaffer Well they really NEEDED to be easy imo, because not only to you have to solve the puzzle, you also have to know how you solved it and understand what's happening, or else you won't be able to solve later levels. And you REALLY need to understand the concepts in order to have a chance against the postgame challenge levels.

[@LaffierTaffer]

@@nataly_171 yeah after seeing the later levels I'm totally cool with these early ones being easy

[@Rev_Erser]

21:00 I was just thinking about room to grow when you said it!

[@QuirkyView]

"I need to have a snack. Cheese, man!" Thank you for telling us about your snack choice, I hope you enjoy your cheese :3 (26:28)

[@NumdegasedUHC]

To anybody that’s interested in this game: Recursed is a game that came out a while ago, it has very similar mechanics but takes them to 11 - this game feels like a good tutorial for Recursed

[@DanNguyen-oc3xr]

I like how Tyler's just trying his best to explain this

[@ViIvaNunner]

this world makes me hopeful for some more puzzles in the future that are sort of just a series of boxes together basically just a way to make a longer level, and could use clones for weird recursive stuff but for just a single square

[@TheAgentAPM]

I commented two episodes ago, that thinking of those transitions as simple portals makes the world seem that much more understandable. On that look, the clone boxes are like entrance-only to a world, while infinity boxes are like exit-only.

[@CaTastrophy427]

I can't wait for him to discover the meta puzzles lmfao

[@sleepynuigurumiamalgamation]

17:35 quite a nice grounding understanding a concept of clones

[@eucalypta1664]

"i lied about it making sense but it'l work" basacly my life

[@ghb323]

24:36 centering is weird with even-numbered grid positions (centered between 2 squares)

[@asdfghyter]

The level at 8:45-12:00 had me stumped for such a long time! At first I didn't even realise that the yellow block was a void block, which made the level even more difficult.

[@greenbirdmusic7495]

sooo, this series made me decide to get the game myself and then i proceeded to beat all but 3 levels in one day cuz i did a 7 hour sitting of it... trust me, alienstrock, if you think THIS is trippy, wait for what comes a few worlds down the line!

[@redpepper74]

Achievement get: Oh dear…

[@HuhBuhGuh]

14:50 "Now you're thinking with portals!"

[@Krasnikgavsharik]

21:37 Unlike Tyler, I spent a lot of time on this puzzle, it's very easy to get mindblocked into pursuing a wrong solution

[@TimMillican]

I struggled with that one for so long... then I came back a few days later and did it just about as fast. A fresh look can do wonders.

[@chrisgarrett6305]

You’re in r/place! Theres a bloons area and your KZbin pfp is part of it!

[@JrTroopa]

I'm not sure I understand, why did the green block void at 10:18?

[@Sanglais]

Because the blue box, which represents the entire level, was at the same edge. The green box left the level, so it exited the blue box, which immediately ejected it from the level again. That was an infinite loop, so to the void with it.

[@JrTroopa]

Ahh never mind, it's because the recursive blue was against the same edge.

[@UltraLuigi2401]

Basically the void represents exiting infinity (that's why when in the void you see a block that is the level marked with the inifinity symbol, because it represents the infinite copies of the level inside itself. When the level is up against an edge, exiting from that edge causes you (or anything being pushed) to exit the infinite copies at the same time, forcing it into the void. You may notice that this explanation opens up a new possibility; all I'll say is that the game does explore that possibility.

[@dapimasta6809]

imagine if the void were actually going into the level select screens (i know it would break a lot of levels but it could create some metagaming)

[@BrianatorFTW]

I've been wondering if anything special happens if you leave trash in the void, though this game has virtually no trash as every piece I remember so far has participated in solutions I wonder if any parts are needed for only part of a solution and then *can* be retrieved then thrown in the void before completion, like the recursive levels you can push out of themselves, where the goals can be all completed... maybe the player goal needs to be in... hmm

[@EvanG529]

The best way to explain the clones is this: You can enter through both the real level and the clone, but you can only exit through the real level. You will never come out of the clone.

[@aleksandersabak]

A good way to think about clones is that it doesn't matter which one you enter, they both lead to the same space, but if you try to exit that space you exit from the original block. Clones are one-way doors.

[@stelmi3032]

Tyler u got your spot on r/place canvas at (1860,1680)

[@SanityInAnAmazonBoxShorts]

People: adults have it all figured out! Aliensrock: i *undoed* a little too far People watching this video: ITS UNDID-

[@benoitranque7791]

The way I think about clones is that they only allow you to go in. When you exit, you will always exit from the main one

[@NibThaMasta]

My brain melts everytime you have a level within a level, it cant handle it

[@Tekay37]

This is some cracking the cryptic puzzle solving speed, but with better explanation of how you solve it.

[@jackolantern996]

"i think i need a snack....... cheese man" -Tyler 2022

[@vaaarna]

inside me are two volves one understands recursion the other is violently ill every time it happens lmao :)

[@wingman4008]

I really want to be able to watch this video, but this game looks so fun and I don’t want any spoilers

[@UltraLuigi2401]

This is the reason I spent hours playing it on the 29th, I wanted to experience it myself and then see Tyler's reactions.

[@ameliajales5307]

Prediction before I see later episodes; the transfer mechanic is going to be used for creating bridges across the void.

[@davidholland4713]

This is the first world where I got stuck. Just pushing stuff around is not likely to lead to a solution for some of the tougher multiply recursive puzzles, because there are so many possible arrangements. You have to follow a chain of logic based on which colour is pushed into which other and it can get wild.

[@SylvesterAshcroft88]

This game is giving me antechamber vibes all over again, it really messes with your head, with some of these puzzles! :D

[@Tepalus]

It's like chess. Easy to learn the rules, hard to master the game. I like it a lot. 👌🏽

[@PaulyPop]

I hope those clones charger something different to tell it’s the same for colourblindness

[@voidanims]

"i want to be inside yellow" -Aliensrock

[@FactswithKat]

Has tyler tried to check what happens if you go up in the overworld? and did he go back to check the 2nd world when he had a split?

[@PaulyPop]

I can vouch on the long cactus series 👍

[@paulogrech5196]

In like the 3rd episode I had an idea of how the camera would move if u transfer between boxes and my answer was the right one

[@gooscifur5327]

Free use title idea: 2 Patrick's 1 parabox

[@Ennar]

23:55 zooming out is helpful sometimes ;)

[@pat9353]

The meta puzzle content for this game is going to be wild I can’t just feel it. It kinda feels like recursion baba and I’m here for it!

[@mambodog5322]

There's no meta-puzzles like in Baba, but the final worlds and bonus content certainly packs a punch :)

[@pat9353]

@@mambodog5322 my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[@WanderTheNomad]

I don't know why but the levels in this video _feel_ easier than ones in previous videos to me.

[@nathansos8480]

This one isn’t easier, you are smarter!

[@morgenparker-houghton1744]

Mind Blown

[@erikstephens6370]

You know how you cause a paradox by doing infinitely many exits at once? What if you entered infinitely many times at once? You could try putting a level inside itself, at the edge of itself, but instead of trying to make the level exit itself, enter through a clone. Make sure you don't just push the box into the level while entering. The inner copy needs to be blocked by a wall.

[@erikstephens6370]

I think you can try this from the level at 12:20 in the video.

[@turingincomplete6844]

spoilers: you enter an Epsilon Box, much like the infinity box from infinitely many exits, and are deposited into the void

[@rileystallings6018]

this man can do this so much faster than I could😅

[@titaniumtomato7247]

I'm surprised he hasn't reached the Epsillon paradox yet

[@PoweredByDucks]

its tough for us but imagine the guy creating the levels

[@tanyacoates1068]

I hope eventually you have to use the void to your advantage, for example, a borderless level with no walls and a block you need to get inside using three other blocks. That would be cool.

[@redpepper74]

it gets _weirder._

[@axolotl_princess]

You should check out this game called Noita. The guy who made baba is you worked on it. Also will you ever do a video for monument valley 2?

[@neovoid5008]

11:00 brown is the new yellow. Iether that or brown doesn't exist.

[@neovoid5008]

21:10 well i'm prety sure if you combine everything into 1 puzzl then the game will desintigrate your brain. And we havent even seen every game machanic.

[@neovoid5008]

I wonder how this game is programed

[@mitchellsroufe3344]

Ha! I completely forgot about room to grow, that was the first game I watched you play. Been a little while...

[@sora_scorcher7921]

You forgot about the fork in the road 2 or 3 boxes ago.

[@jagpreetsingh6711]

This game is amazing

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

The one with the most headache is the developer

[@ciprianiulian871]

This game must be a real IQ test

[@spectrelex3051]

main it feels like its been a while since you've played a puzzle game that's really messed with your mind lmao.

[@NStripleseven]

seems perfectly normal

[@noellesears10]

26:50 "sussy"

[@terrencengoma-j4s]

17:45 what the duck

[@Thatwasademo]

I think the reason you keep stumbling over explaining the clone mechanic is because you're focused on entering. Entering a non-clone block and entering its clone actually has exactly the same effect - you enter the level associated with the block. It's *exiting* that level that shows the difference - you always come out of the non-clone (this also has the cosmetic effect that it's the non-clone's surroundings that are shown in the background, of course).

[@redpepper74]

That’s not wrong, but the way it’s portrayed in the text levels (and the grid view) is that there’s one level that can be entered from any of the references to that level. Also there are real-life parallels to this such as pointers in computer science, which are variables that point to another variable. On a technical level you are correct though.

[@nexusgamer1746]

What a cool fucking game

[@Maxmilian666]

I noticed just now you have different background on the cam, did you move? :)

[@ghb323]

12:35 wraparound

[@arunchebrolu1113]

I wonder what a Speedrun would be like, knowing all the endgame mechanics

[@minamagdy4126]

At its extreme, it would just be button mashing, basically rote memorization. That said, a human would have to have mnemonics at the very least, and memorizing easier levels is unnecessary

[@AceFuzzLord]

Very boring in my opinion. Watching someone play a puzzle by memory instead of actually watching them solve it is boring. At least that's what I think

[@denzy3929]

what about the other clone world?

[@absentchronicler9063]

that other clone is a clone of the clone world as in if you go in there, it teleports you in the clone world there's only one clone world

[@denzy3929]

@@absentchronicler9063 oh, alright. I clearly didnt understand how the clone thing works 😂

[@is-1002]

2 sets of levels behind

[@elephantNo5]

With all the colors, i wonder how colorblind-friendly the game is... Just a stray thought...

[@gamingwithgeko7377]

Whoa I just realized I'm the 5th view. You're big enough that's pretty crazy. You inspire me to be a better creator! I love your stuff, thank you :)

[@DsPGfj]

Nice

[@nathanwilbrink2444]

Can you play the stanley parable

[@Abominus2]

they keep getting earlier!

[@rowannoodles5110]

cool video

[@is-1002]

I think you missed the red way

[@is-1002]

Yeah its really normal.

[@Rcooper-pu9fw]

Am speed 🟥+ **= Mr man’s

[@syndere6755]

Apparently the community has dubbed him Patrick. I thought it was the name of the creator.

[@JY-eo3te]

Like the series but who is patrick and what is parabox?

[@redpepper74]

Patrick is the developer and a parabox is a paradox, but like, with boxes

[@Confused_Rock]

Boxed blocks blocks blocked box

[@kooskoos1234]

IM NOT EVEN PLAYING AND MY BRAIN HURTS SEND HELP

[@burndabus]

YO, your logo on r/place rn btw

[@syndere6755]

Where at?

[@burndabus]

@@syndere6755 above the American flag next to the mokey, a little distorted now, but still recognizable

[@Damian-vx2mp]

screen warping [12:37]

[@samuellafleur7027]

Snack time

[@johnschmidt4310]

19:10