An Idiot's Guide to Static Grass

[@stephenrick6672]

I've seen static grass on other channels. They just shake and all done. You produced a tutorial in detail, showing the pros and cons. The best video I've seen yet on this subject. Thank you for this level of info. Much appreciated.

[@ToyManTelevision]

THANKS!!!!!

[@benhancock1408]

You two are sooooo much fun!!! This was a very informative video. I have a fairly sizeable portion of a G-scale modular layout that is almost ready for the scenery/landscape process. Some of our club members have toyed around with static grass. One made his own static doohickey from an electric fly-swatter.

[@ToyManTelevision]

That seems to be a system that a lot of people are using! Apparently you can build the whole thing for less than 10 bucks

[@robertweldon7909]

Having seen numerous videos on using static grass, I can say this is the best tutorial. No body talks about just how to make it work, but you. Thanks for pulling your hair out to help the rest of us from doing the same. Extra great video. ;-)

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!!!!!

[@garyacker7388]

There's so much more to building a layout than I or a lot of people have any idea. Thank you so much guys. I never miss a new episode.

[@NicksCollectableCreations]

That really depends on scale. Large scale like this you can get crazy with detail. Smaller scales like HO or N it is not as necessary for a great scene.

[@crapsforlife3023]

thank you for this video, I have been fighting to get my grass to stand up. after watching this video, I finely got it. love your channel and hope ya have a great week.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!!! You too!😊

[@aircooledhead]

Same here. In fact, I never thought about static grass till I saw it on KZbin..Then I went thru the same struggles getting started; tested great, sucked on the layout/diorama. These tips will surely help!😊

[@Hadassah-KaquoliMReno]

I’m 69, I have a HO scale train set. I’m hoping to finally build a layout for it after we move onto the property my daughter and son-in-law are going to buy. But I’m learning that price’s have skyrocketed since I had bought my train. It’s nice to see people with a sense of humor on here! Thank you for your posts.

[@rodwarren2508]

I too had great difficulty using my Woodlands Scenic Static Grass applicator. Changed two things, threw away the battery and used the Charger adapter pack, much better results. Then threw away the cast foot (its useless) and use T Pins into glue ( in lots of places) and make sure glue is all around the T Pins for good contact. Keep moving cable from one T Pin to the next as you move along. Sooo much better. I also have a poo bag and use it all the time for a great random grass look. Keep having fun. Rod.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Love the t pin idea!

[@1800clyde]

Wow, this was not-so-much screwing around. Laying grass is serious stuff :-o Tks for the experimentation . . . everyone makes it look so easy.

[@jimkuntz965]

Thank you sooo much for this tutorial. I am a beginner like you on this video. I watched a bunch of tutorials about static grass, but they never explained the basics. You revealed the secret!! Hold the shaker very close and keep it there as you move around. I wasn’t holding it close to start, and then raised even higher as I moved around

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks for the comment!! I hope you find more useful information here!!!

[@lovepets2781]

Lmao @ first martian rover , also I too was going to refer Luke Towans videos for static grass, I actually discover you guys by watching his videos cause your videos started showing up on my suggestions. That makes me thankful cause you guys are awesome.

[@ToyManTelevision]

LUKE IS GREAT! Love his water videos too.

[@MTspeed_Crafts]

I was so close to never trying 12mm grass again for the life of me i couldn't get it to stand up but this video help a lot and I got some to come out great. Thank you!!

[@billpihl1]

Another great video from pun central!!!! The two of you are such a great match that it is a pleasure to watch your vlog, it is like going over to a very good friends house for a visit. Keep up the great work and thank you !!!!!!!!

[@gregsmith1719]

I had the same problem with the same applicator as you, Dale. You're right, the vacuum helps a lot. In tight places it's really difficult. I'm still not happy with it. Thanks. Keep it up.

[@ToyManTelevision]

So for tight places we have decided it JUST DOESNT WORK. So tuffs... AND those British sheets... So our "current" project is making those British grass mats.

[@felice12151]

I've been putting off trying static grass application forever on my small HOn3 layout fearing the worse. Thanks for the video and exposing the do's and don'ts of the process. Great layout. Alan

[@ToyManTelevision]

Make sure you start by putting some grass down on a flat surface. Just a piece of wood or whatever. Make your mistakes there. Then make sure when you move over to the layout there’s nothing in the way. Nothing vertical. No scenery no trees no structures in the area where you’re working where that really messes everything up.

[@fredklein8896]

Great video. I've also been watching a lot of KZbin videos on static grass but yours is much more informative and easier to grasp. Thank you for a great channel.

[@ToyManTelevision]

🙏 thanks

[@Managable_Mayhem]

This feels like I asked my grandparents for help, despite them not being involved in the grass stuff much, and grandpa took it upon himself to study and test things just so stupid little me can finish her project with grass applied ot it. And since I never met my grandpa and my grandma died when I was a toddler, that makes this a really heartwarming tutorial to watch. Thank you very much! ;v;

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!!

[@bluedotdinosaur]

There's a lot of great learned experience here. And it sounds very familiar that browsing most of the common youtube videos on static grass does not reveal these learning curve secrets. Sometimes, people forget their initial stumbling blocks and do not mention them.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I think we learn from mistakes. Even other peoples mistakes

[@zackclay440]

I am not sure if this comment will get read, but a lot of the static grass videos, that I have seen. Everyone has what looks like a unbent paper clip, or needle clamped to the ground clamp. best of luck, I look foreword to the next video.

[@mikediehl1468]

Hey there Dale! Thank you for using your patience for this and sparing mine!! Lolol!! Now I know how to apply this stuff! Everybody on KZbin shows us how to use this stuff without somehow really showing us quite like you did!😆😄😝😜

[@ToyManTelevision]

THANKS!!!!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

THANKS!!!!!

[@jamfjord]

The title doesn't do this video justice - probably the most helpful and useful videos I've seen on static grass. Thanks 👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Glad it was helpful!

[@charlesmayer7097]

Thanks for explaining the difference between Elmer's glue all, and woodland scenic static tac glue. I've been wanting to try my new static grass applicator, and I wasn't sure which product to use.

[@BoxcarJerry]

Excellent video , thanks for breaking it down . Your results speak volumes .

[@ToyManTelevision]

THANKS

[@dannyshepherd9375]

Hi guys just found your channel and absolutely love it, you guys are awesome together. One thing I have to tell you I recently made a 20000v applicator for less than £30 and it works amazingly. Great work guys please keep it up.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I thought about making one but not knowing anything about the process I figured start simple. Keep it simple. If a better way becomes obvious then go for that. Meanwhile I need the mow the dam lawn before I can work on my train and so on and so on. Anyway static grass is great. And now I know how! Learning curve.

[@wmjwell]

I love the discoveries you have found as you make your scenery. Thanks for sharing. FYI, it takes 50,000 volts of electricity to jump 1 inch. There is no amperage. Love your generous knowledge sharing. See you Tuesday.

[@ToyManTelevision]

As a kid a friend had a Vandegraph Genorator. About 10 million volts... I keept thinkin how great it would be for static grass. Charge up the whole railroad.... when sparks are jumping from the trees start dumping grass by hand while standing on bottles. Just a random thought.. I see a few downsides...

[@ericcoughlan]

A great video, and a lot of good tips. I model in N scale, so really only use the 2mm and 4mm most of the time, but do occasionally use the 7mm and have also noticed the problem of the grass falling over. I will be definitely trying your tips on my next application. A tip for you (and I picked up this tip from Martin Welberg who also sells those grass mats) and this is apply your glue (I use a 50/50 mix of Mod Podge and water) using a well worn brush, but dab the brush so that it creates small patches of glue - do not try to cover the entire area with the glue. Then apply your first layer of grass, for me the 2mm grass. Vacuum and allow to dry. Then repeat the dab glue and apply the next level of grass (in my case the 4mm). I have built up some great grass effects with multiple layers of grass using this process. For my 4mm, I often mix some of my grasses before the application, and even mix in some 7mm. The 7mm seems to stand up better in these cases, probably because the charge on the 4mm helps keep the charge on the 7mm.

[@ToyManTelevision]

That definitely sounds like a system! I’m pretty darn sure that the glue sold bye woodland scenics he is just that. Dilute Mod podge. .

[@vincenthuying98]

You possibly could check out Boomer Dioramas videos on static grass. He uses matte medium as his adhesive medium to attach the static fibers on. Seems to work very well. Also, it provides a base to the grass which remains flexible. Elmers and Woodland Scenics tend to dry as a rock solid attachment layer. Very interesting to see your static grass experience. Great to see we all learn from one another!! Thanks 🙏 for sharing

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks for watching!! Really getting this process down! I’m going to try matte medium. Thanks

[@Larky2k]

For static grass I find watching Boulder Creek Railroad really useful. The guy is really good

[@Larky2k]

Luke Towan is his name really amazing modeller

[@bigwoz78]

I have never seen anybody do it better than Luke

[@ToyManTelevision]

YUP!!!! Those are gret. As his his water...

[@maccustoms2295]

Great show and tips. Yes alot of discovery we learn static electricity shocks lol. Hope you guys have a great weekend.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Driving 100 miles to get ice cream. Why not?

[@cudathehawgjetfixer7520]

Try watching Luke Towan's channel on his techniques of static grass, I believe he uses Mod Podge Matt as his glue for static grass but cant recall which glue he uses but I also know he uses a inexpensive paint brush to apply the glue. Again go to Luke Towan channel on how he does his grass scenery.

[@farmerdave7965]

Luke Towan is a god.

[@cudathehawgjetfixer7520]

@@farmerdave7965 He is amazing!!! I'm jealous of his abilities of taking something so simple and turning it into a masterpieces, he has the Midas touch for making awesome dioramas or layouts, I never get bored watching his videos and always learn something new each time I rewatch them! HE IS A GOD OF THE RAILROAD LAYOUTS AND 1/87 SCALE DIORAMAS!!! ONLY IF I COULD GET JUST A TOUCH OF HIS GREAT TALENT FROM HIS LITTLE FINGER THEN I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO BRAG ABOUT!!! LUKE TOWAN IS THE MEANING OF AWESOME!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

INDEED!! Love his videos..

[@uscgtankerwhitmore8777]

elmers glue works well for me been doing the same as luke.

[@Mydadsshed]

Wow. Great channel. Right up my alley. (Even though the vid is years old, but Im always late anyway. I recently retired and it was Lawn Bowls or a Hobby - Here I am - Doing my first static grass app today - Thanks - You guys are awesome.😀

[@ToyManTelevision]

It’s fun. And I’m FINALLY getting it figured out.

[@salletosnscalerailroad2688]

I model N Scale and use 2 & 4mm exclusively and also use my poo mix exclusively. I have given up using static grass on inclines, instead I make my own tufts and use them. I have a small sheet of aluminum (I don't know why I have it) I put various sizes and shapes of Elmer's on the metal flatten them a bit with a brush, clip the alligator clip tp the edge and shake rattle and roll. Let it dry overnight and you can easily scrape them up with a razor blade and glue them wherever. The comb? "What am I supposed to do with this?" I don't even know where it is. I also gave up on 9v batteries, they get weak and the grass sleeps. Everybody has a box full of wall warts find a wart that fits, just try and not get tangled in the wires. I am now a Static Grass Addict, I love it.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yup... ITs a hard learning curve.. The foil is great! More in a future show. But you can clip to it and boy does the grass fly out. And tuffs.. on ANY hill... But we are messing with the grass sheets from Great Britian.. AND trying to mak our own. Anain, not easy... BUT I think we have it figures out.... New show soon... PS uses a metal tray instead of foil...

[@gatesbisson1746]

you two are a real gem, entertaining, informative and lots of fun thank you

[@shawnpowell5876]

Great video and once seeing the trouble you had where the longer grass layed flat. I've watched several tutorials abt doing static grass and they insist you start off w the shorter grass 1st. And the next pass put the longer grass and so on to lastly using the longest to get the desired thickness/length you want. Once we move into our new home I'll be starting on my new h.o.scale layout in one of the spare bedrooms. I'm getting antsy and wish the process would move a little faster to get moved in. Anyways, thanks for sharing this video and I'm viewing it from the 1st state of DELAWARE.

[@MrRacerdon40]

Like everyone is saying, great tutorial, you mention what went wrong and how you dealt with it, learning from your mistakes. Trying out my new toy tonight, thanks for the help! Wish me luck ;)

[@ToyManTelevision]

Good luck!!! Happy modeling.

[@SaintCoemgen]

0:40- Watching any number of "How-To" videos and following them, so often can give disappointing results. End of the day, since there are so many variables, everything of value still requires the simple, one word, old school requirement: Experience. 😎

[@ToyManTelevision]

Practice. Practice. (Testing). More practice. Each time learning something new.

[@stevemellin5806]

Really cool I've used parsley flakes and other stuff .it looks great thank you for the information.

[@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877]

Great vidio, just got my static grass and made diy applicator with fine screen and worked fantastic with 2mm grass but 12mm was not coming out well. So im going to make large grid for applicator and see if that fixes 12mm, great tip. Clamping applicator in place over area for 5 min. Worked great on 12mm. Thanks for the morning coffee...

[@madsolsendoteu]

Very interesting! Thank you for sharing all those experiences!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Our pleasure!

[@mycrazygrandpa]

This was extremely helpful! Saved a few bucks and a lot of sanity, another modeler uses blonde wigs you find at re-sale stores or yard sales for that amber waves of grain look.

[@slam854]

Karyn was in best form with her humor in this one.

[@ToyManTelevision]

YUP!!!

[@randye3746]

We loved the quip about Marvin, and of K-9 being the first Martian rover. It was a blast. Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator class, that is.

[@ToyManTelevision]

We have T-shirts that say “you can have my Q 36 explosive space modulator when you pry it from my cold dead fingers”

[@mychaldbeausoleil3043]

You two are a hoot, laughter being the best medicine!!💗😂👩🏻‍🦰🤠

[@ToyManTelevision]

THANKS!!

[@timothyboles6457]

Great grass videos. Serious groaners! Never boring

[@ToyManTelevision]

thanks!!!

[@alexecon4330]

Your video has given me hope! I've had my frustrations as well. I tried out my Static King tonight, and have been wondering whether it's broken. But I think I'm just going through what you've gone through. I deal in shorter lengths of grass, and just like you I wondered whether the 2mm stuff wasn't standing up -- or was just too short for me to notice. I gave it a closer look, and I think it's working -- so it'll be Round 2 in the morning!

[@ToyManTelevision]

You got this! Shorter is easier than long. But hard to see. Stay in closer and literally pull the grass upward. And be sure you’re working on a mostly flat surface.

[@SteveH-TN]

Thanks for sharing this video and information. About to make Static Grass for 1st time. Definitely as my wife & daughter tell me I’m clueless i.e. an idiot (?) so this video is absolutely for me( maybe ?)

[@ToyManTelevision]

Love the process. Now that I sorta understand it.

[@terryh5526]

We made our own applicator with an electronic fly swatter and a kitchen tea strainer. The bowl shape of the tea strainer has advantages over the flat screens. The flock drops toward the center of the strainer. This allows a focusing effect. It might help you get better control on sloped surfaces.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yes I think the flat nature of the grid is why these things work so well on a flat surface

[@SaintCoemgen]

You Two -- Wonderful. You work so well together. Puns. Side comments. Feedback loops. Complimentary. I really do not care about static grass, as all my railroading is outside, in the garden were cutting real grass is more an issue (cough .. PITA) than creating fake grass. But I watched this video all the way to the end simply because you two make the time I spent fully worth while. Well done!!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

HI Thanks... Been thinking of fake grass outside.... As we are on benchwork.... Mor to come...

[@wp3532]

When other modelers mention “spray glue”, they’re actually talking about something like 3M “Super 77” in the large aerosol type can.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yup. But as a second coat disastrous. The woodland scenics landscape glue works for this. But I haven’t got that down. Just yet!!

[@ritaloy8338]

Mr. Wooley Willie! That magnetic toy that used iron fillings. I remember it well and still available on Amazon.

[@ToyManTelevision]

A great toy!!!! Was thinking of printing a photo of myself and doing green grass.....

[@alapanda1582]

I found that comb useless too. I laughed when I opened the box, thinking “this is a lice comb”. Drugstores sell it to comb the lice eggs out of a child’s hair. Exact same thing, lol. Enjoying your channel!

[@FunAtDisney]

I have one that is for pets to see if they have fleas!

[@ToyManTelevision]

pointless comb? Hum.....

[@Bobolots]

Great informative video! I didn't see anyone mention the differences in the glue -- Elmer's is pva and woodland is acrylic.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Ok that explains it. Love Elmers but their “school glue” is crap. Yet seems sort of like woodland scenics. Yet the school glue is better for dilute glue for scenery. Acrylic. That figures.

[@Bobolots]

@@ToyManTelevision You can get acrylic medium in any of the craft stores or online. It comes in regular gloss, satin or medium. It's more liquid like the elmer's.

[@alcopower5710]

You guys make such an awesome team......absolutely complimenting one another. Thanks for sharing 👍 Mixed pooh lol

[@stephenriley9084]

Now I've been to static grass school, I'm extatic!!!😮😮😮. Regards Stephen.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Shocking!!

[@laurensaurusflex7235]

I’m only 3 minutes in and I love you two!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks wow!!

[@danbelzile4203]

Hello , I.reaily like your work on the railroad. Ps you guys are very professional 👍👍.🇨🇦☕

[@ToyManTelevision]

thanks!!!!!!!!!

[@farmerdave7965]

Are you a glutton for punishment ? **LOL**

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hum..... Sort of... BUt daang it. this should work. WELL!! And it does..

[@Rail-Rody]

Great to see the research process, nice video as always! I think if you would give the 55Kv RTS Greenkeeper a try you will find “grassing” a lot more enjoyable, faster and with better results, even on slopes. Definitely worth the money! (Not trying to sell anything, just from my own experience 😉)

[@ToyManTelevision]

I really considered buying one of those. They’re expensive though. But if I were going to be doing this on a lot of hilly landscaping I would definitely do it.

[@carishields7834]

I’m the one seeking my you tube education lol so thanks for this ? NOW I know all there is to know 😂

[@ToyManTelevision]

Well your caught up to this idiot at least..

[@lindasocquet5748]

MERCI! J,ai le même problèmes mais vous avez répondu à mes questions,merci!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Merci d'avoir regardé! nous aimons faire des vidéos et partager notre plaisir et surtout les petites choses que nous avons découvertes. alors vraiment, merci d'avoir regardé. c'est la raison pour laquelle nous faisons ces vidéos.

[@keithknight2334]

Thanks. Been looking to get one of these.😁

[@ToyManTelevision]

Takes a bit of testing and pratice

[@rangerstl07]

I feel this video was made especially for me. All my friends say I'm a special kind of idiot...

[@ToyManTelevision]

Tool my years but now 100% 1D10T

[@pbyfr]

It seems that you don't use a power supply but just a battery. This will limit the Static King a lot. I use an old Braun razor power supply, as it is the same voltage (I needed to connect the correct plug). WS sells one but it is very expansive for what it is. With the power supply, 12mm grass is working OK, the biggest issue is that I have quickly a ball of grass inside the Static King, and I need to separate it. I didn't have success with two layers, so the max height I have is 12 mm (which is OK in O scale). But I use several lengths, first 12 mm, then 7mm and finally 4 or 2 to fill in. Like Luke Towan, it is possible to apply just patch of glues for the long one, and then add more glue around for the smaller length, this give a varied length field.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Nope, using a power supply. I hear its stronger than the 9 volt batery. But the cord is a bit of a problem..

[@pbyfr]

@@ToyManTelevision Having two cables is indeed not the best, especially with the position of the plugs.

[@michaelfedora5630]

Whenever I did scenery to get different grasses and dirty to stick to the walls of mountains I would cut a pc of cardboard from a cereal box and shape it like a tapered shute and you can control what you are dropping onto walls of mountains and you can slightly blow the grasses at the area that you want to coat that particular part of the mountains or hills but only pour a small amount at a time so you are in control of what you are coating.

[@michaelfedora5630]

Much easier to control the texture and how much area you want to grass or weed that area.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I can see where that could work. But Im leaning toward making the grass on a mat and fitting it to where I want it. Its sooooo hard to get it to land correctly on a slope.

[@ckmidwestmodels1674]

Do you use the power supply or the battery? Thank you , the greatest tutorial I have seen !!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Power supply. Seems to work better.

[@cossie118bmk]

ile try this method and see if i can get a better result ..... thanks for the info 👍👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Getting better at this! The key is getting close and avoiding vertical surfaces

[@peterbradford5987]

Great video. Hi from the UK

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hello there! Bradford? My grandma was from there.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Or last name?

[@peterbradford5987]

@@ToyManTelevision Last name.

[@tgmccoy1556]

Karen's one liners are hilarious.

[@ToyManTelevision]

YUP!!

[@magnificus8581]

Thank you, this video was very helpful!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hope so!

[@georgebain986]

Did your static grass applicater come with a ground wire, if so that needs to be inserted into the glue. Pa. I dilute my glue and had great results. Good luck ,you layout is looking fantastic.💕👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yup. Planning a new idea with the ground. More soon...

[@samfuller6273]

Looks like a PITA! but you eventually got it!

[@Brian_rock_railfan]

Liked video 👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

HI! THANKS

[@jimmyduncan7650]

Any thoughts of getting into the shake on hair restoration business for balding old punk rockers?

[@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877]

Thanks for the info, ps. The static wire is really so one doesnt throw the applicator too far ...

[@ToyManTelevision]

Glad it a tough unit.... Hit the ground running?

[@Phoenixknight79]

alot of people I talk with also mix the glue with water then spread it out before static grass

[@ToyManTelevision]

I use that to secure dirt and ballast. But for static grass I like thick glue.

[@VintageRenewed]

When the layout is done, is the logging line going to be connected with the main railroad or is it completely separate?

[@ToyManTelevision]

Completely separate. It takes so much space to turn these trains around the helix is right out of the question

[@mattomon1045]

great video

[@paulsmith6616]

To fix the grass in place after application, try cheap hair lacquer (the cheaper the better) from the supermarket. Mist over lightly.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Using Aqua Net..... So far so good. Will be in a new show..

[@shellylynn3063]

You two are a hoot

[@lillywho]

3:24 I thought Doctor Who came up with the robot dog K-9 first

[@ToyManTelevision]

Nope.. K-9 was born in 1948..

[@thehastyterrainmaker9485]

Hahaha I bought the Woodland's Pro applicator a week and some back, watched TONS of videos... Yeah, NOT a pro like I thought I was and I have YEARS of terrain building experience. Static grass, a whole other ball game lol

[@thehastyterrainmaker9485]

DEPENDING on IF you are using a battery OR the adapter also depends on the results one will get. The battery STINKS for doing 7-12mm grass, not enough power to stand it up. A TRICK IF you do not have the adapter, after cleaning off excess grass with sock over vacuum, go back over it without a sock and it pulls it back up more and NO loss of grass.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’m actually having really good luck with this thing now. It’s just takes figuring out the limitation‘s as there are many

[@thehastyterrainmaker9485]

@@ToyManTelevision totally agree. I found a trick to the battery over adapter and getting some lovely results now

[@richardweeks4095]

There are some videos on youtube showing how to make an applicator that is 20K volts and you can make it for about $25.00. The higher voltage works much better.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Ill bet it does..... May try that.

[@wykedinsanity]

omg i heard squirrel dirt, it sucks getting old

[@ToyManTelevision]

beats the alternitive

[@Hadassah-KaquoliMReno]

You two are so cute!

[@northernrails4462]

Try using a 2mm base layer grass first then build up from there with a layering spray glue! Also try the world war Scenics grass a far better product!

[@ToyManTelevision]

World war scenics where can I Find it?

[@TheSonofruss]

A long stick pin or Tpin placed in the clip should help too.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Going to try the pin......

[@blainemilliron3870]

also try put ing pins in base hock ground strap to pin work in smal areas to increse carge set up then move thru pins as you lay out grass . also check molderailroader vido plussfor there free intro then decide if it is worth a sub

[@ToyManTelevision]

will do!!!

[@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674]

R u going to the RF Reunion? R u bringing Toy Man shirts?

[@ToyManTelevision]

We were. But it looks like a family thing will prevent it.

[@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674]

@@ToyManTelevision 😪😪

[@iannarita9816]

PS I've never tried static grass techniques.

[@ToyManTelevision]

challenging but FUN

[@lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561]

Anything but boring. Thanks for the entertainment.

[@ToyManTelevision]

thanks!

[@iannarita9816]

Working on a cliff or side of a hill. Just a thought, as your RR is kinda modular could you not angle or brace the layout, when your applying the grass, so the slope is flat when you're applying the grass on a slope. (I hope that is understandable, I'm not good at explaining)

[@ToyManTelevision]

Would be tricky... BUT the gras mats seem to work great. Making our own. If this works (hope) it wil be a show..

[@Serenityindailylife]

Add water to the elmers

[@mattomon1045]

try 3m 77 spay glue

[@ToyManTelevision]

Ive used it for sooooo much. Great product. Bet it would be a great first layer.