An Unexpected Solution | Limbus Company Part 56 - Foreman Plays Stuff

[@ForemanPlaysStuff]

Can't wait for more trains! discord.gg/foremanplaysstuff

[@caellanmurphy4751]

yeah the ordeals and stuff did sometimes multiple damage red was the stele drop black damage was the tentacles

[@KetherBattle7]

Ryoshus passive was changed, due to her old passive being restrictive towards future id building around Ammo

[@KetherBattle7]

It made a Skill using the final ammo deal bonus 50% of total damage at the end of the skill Now its just 50% of the coin that spent the final ammo

[@xelpad2379]

poor girl, she was barely usable as it was. Oh well, I guess we're gonna get more ammo IDs now. Maybe we'll encounter some bloodfiend hunters with silver bullets?

[@pappendeckel2.096]

@@KetherBattle7 this and that it looks at indiviual damage numbers of the coin now, so it doesnt scale disgustingly with attack weight

[@DemPop]

@@xelpad2379 I mean, she was basically relegated to the bench, anyway. Solemn Yi Sang would be disgusting with her, since he can spend all his ammo basically every time he uses his Skill 3, if that works the way I think he does. Him getting 50% of his skill's ENTIRE damage instead of just the last coin would be way, way too much for just a single support passive.

[@gaiko804]

@@DemPop Yup, the third coin on his S3 counts as spending all ammo so LCCB Ryoshu passive works there.

[@tepig2828]

One thing I love about the Don reveal is how there are multiple times where things that look like Don being weird are actually foreshadowing for this. A couple easy examples: Checking people’s pulses through their foreheads Trying to eat the abnormalities in her observation logs Lantern Don Skill 3 literally has her bite an enemy and heal health

[@giggleshitt3r]

Her base ego passive also heals her when attacking bleeding enemies, and the weapon used in the base ego attack looks similar to Casetti's glaive

[@octosage2861]

Bloodfiends are also obsessed with counting and keeping track of numbers, something Don does a lot including on the lakes when yi sang notes the oddly specific number of dreams.

[@Plaugus_Screenz]

Also the base ego art the image through the bars is a carasel poster which is riped in the middle showing people impaled on spikes instead of hirses

[@scruffles3838]

​@@Plaugus_Screenz Dondon the impaler

[@Robocrab-td8dr]

And her base EGO being called "La Sangre De Sancho" or The Blood of Sancho

[@yaboykel]

Also, another cool fact about BloodDon! Normally, in vampire media, the order of the Generations/Kindreds (Fifth for Cassetti, or Second in Donqui's case) tells of how far removed they are from the original Vampire (First Generation), and as such that dictates how powerful they are and their status in vampire society. .......Don Quixote is a Second Kindred Bloodfiend. Which means she is literally just one step below from the first ever fiend. She's the equivalent of freaking Castlevania Alucard and im ALL FOR IT!!

[@bestaround3323]

I wonder what generation Elena is?

[@Plaugus_Screenz]

​@@bestaround3323Elena is from the locks of things pretty low and new she just was a threat before distorting into a Bloodfeind becoming essentially a Bloodfeind Squared because she broke the masquerade and created a army of thralls and used their blood to juice herself up.

[@Plaugus_Screenz]

​@@bestaround3323I would assume Gen 6 or 7 but she could just be a newer B.F sired by one of the older ones maybe she is a gen 3 BF that was recently aired by a Gen 2 because one of their childs got slain either by hunters or by themselves due to breaking some rules.

[@scruffles3838]

Or her basically being one step above a VTM Antediluvian.... Tho something like that would be a bit too wacky for the city

[@yaboykel]

@@scruffles3838 Calling it now, Sancho was a Vampire Slayer

[@loftwingheropon2743]

This intervalo really made me like and appreciate Fausts character. She was easily my least favourite before this point but now I'm excited to see more of her.

[@whatthedoot5604]

59:10 the Violet Noon's tendrils that it uses to attack dealt black damage, but the shockwave did red, so you're not entirely misremembering!

[@guyferrari8124]

You may recognize P Corp from a certain shelter from a certain date in march

[@pixellavalamp8618]

Finally, la creatura becomes The Creature

[@Ysevetyfive]

This Intervallo instantly became my favourite after that finale, such an absolutely peak scene. It also made me incredibly excited for her Canto next month, it's going to be so peak it might actually surpass Canto 6 somehow. 10:15 Ah i see they changed the translation here, good, because he used to say "Thou shalt be become *my* *second* Kindred" which was slightly confusing with him then calling her *the* second Kindred after because those are two *very* different things. Because *His* "Second Kindred" would just be his second underling, *The* "Second Kindred" is an OG vampire, the descendant of the Original FIRST descendant of all Bloodfiends. Basically a Second Generation Vampire. Don being a Bloodfiend was actually a long running theory from almost the launch of the game, there where MANY hints like her having very distinctive cat-like slit eyes and her Base E.G.O healing her on-hit against a target with Bleed like Elena for example. But we had no idea that she would be a SECOND KINDRED, that makes her one of the most powerful Bloodfiends in THE ENTIRE SETTING, probably way stronger than Elena was pre-distortion.

[@bestaround3323]

She would honestly give Verg a run for his money. He wouldn't lose, but it would be a tough fight

[@GL-hh1pv]

​@@bestaround3323hum actually vergs ego makes him able to phase through blood so most of don's blood powers woulb be useless

[@bestaround3323]

@@GL-hh1pv but what if she could control the blood Verg tries to use for his attacks?

[@Schinak]

Don is just not a bloodfiend. SHE IS TURBO ANCIENT SECOND GENERATION BLOODFIEND. DESCENDED STRAIGHT FROM THE FIRST BLOODFIEND. The equivalent of Cain's descendant from Vampire the Masquerade.

[@rakshaa1664]

And so, the Yi Sang / Faust ship was given wings

[@kingragnarok7302]

Fly, broken rizz

[@Geigan]

You know, I don't recall Don Quixote having vampires in it. But if this turns out to be a somewhat heavy handed metaphor about the Spanish Empire, I'm all for it.

[@anothenblue2630]

Roland's tales had no piano monsters or Angelica loving him either.

[@phyllotaxis]

They had Santiago from The Old Man And The Sea in canto 5, would be fun to see characters from Dracula in 7.

[@gesgald2266]

​@@anothenblue2630but he loved her so

[@anothenblue2630]

@@gesgald2266 which is why he spends a while chasing her while she's trying to get away and also loses his mind when he fails/she finds someone else. It's a huge departure from the source either way.

[@dap6386]

The LobCorp nuggets must be jacked to high heaven if they have to deal with stuff like this multiple times every day.

[@Anthony-yf4jl]

a LV5 Nugget must be one tough sonovabitch to deal with all the Alephs and bullshit they do on the regular. Hell the Silent Orchestra would make the Pianist look like a child with a Xylophone, and lob corp nuggets deal with that freaky fella regularly.

[@grimmreaper6354]

@@Anthony-yf4jl PM confirmed that the Pianist would have been a WAW level threat so lvl 5 employees wearing decent EGO (like WAW+) are directly comparable to Grade 1 fixers probably even stronger than the average Grade 1. a fully maxed EX employee wearing full aleph gear can definitely box with colour fixers if not straight up overpower them. (of course that is all assuming gameplay as cannon which they're slowly retconning like the shockwaves becoming red or the pillar being a lot stronger than the fruits after landing)

[@saniaPH]

​@@grimmreaper6354 PM has stated in an interview that EX agents are comparable to Claws, so that is about right

[@LTDLetsPlays]

@@saniaPH in a way lobotomy corp had the strongest employees in the city quality over quantity approach if it had numbers and wanted to fight a Wing i think it would be a slaughter

[@Anthony-yf4jl]

@@saniaPH Makes me hope we get to see a EX agent in action from future Walpurg stories one day. Hell maybe we'll get to see one of the sinners dripped up in Justicia or Twilight EGO in the far future

[@xXTheKingEmothXx]

The Violet Noon stele's actually DID do Red damage on impact! They only did Black damage in a radius around them over time once they've landed. Also, does Foreman want to know what's on the banner now that it's out?

[@POOKHT]

Foreman you should read the abnormality logs in limbus like you did in lobotomy corp

[@GL-hh1pv]

Yep

[@PsycotikAlwaysWatches]

I've been farming grant us love since the morning and only JUST found out after watching this it can do that attack on turn 4. I've been killing him with Lament sang before It even gets to do that big attack

[@ItsLimbover]

Same. When I did hard mode for the first time, my Erlcliff literally just obliterated grant us love immediately because of a little thing called 'Lament, Mourn And Despair.'

[@user-zerotak]

I think "Rocinante" Is the "Our Don quixote" herself bc when she wear it she back to normal on the other hand When she take it off/get take off she will Turn into "Real Don quixote" that are Bloodfield and Do not sharing memory with Our don quixote cus when she meet dante "she refer like she meet dante for the first time after Really Really long sleeping"

[@numberman3681]

P corp might be related to The Shelter from the 27th of March.

[@NomadKolibria]

Also for future reference, when an event like this comes out with it's own identities as well, usually the enemies you fight are _weak_ to their respective attacks. E.g, the violet noon enemies are fatal/weak against Ryoshu's ID and Solemn Yi Sang's s2 and s3, this time. They encourage you to use them in said event! You may have known this already, just wanted to say (I was kind of hoping you'd use Solemn Yi Sang this video) Also yeah, both IDs and EGO in this Walpurgis are busted. Like full on insanity.

[@Ariamaki]

Regarding the moment when Meursault was talking about what the disappeared W Corp employee meant: If Mephistopheles was what woke Cassetti up, and the employee vanished without a trace AFTER Cassetti died, both of these imply that the reason we were hired (the random disappearances) were totally unrelated to him and we didn't solve it at all. We did resolve one threat, but we did nothing for the problem LCB was actually brought on for.

[@DiscerningGaze]

The book of donquijote is very alegoric, so even if you read it, it could easily be taken in a hundred different ways, wich is gonna be fun to see what people theorise when don's canto is being realeased

[@Lyfesteal]

I love the derpy voice you gave Cassetti XD The new Yi Sang absolutely destroys the event quests solo I didn't even know what he did but he did it...

[@LTDLetsPlays]

personally i think gregor ego is the big reward out of the 3 releases for this walpurgis due to being quite nuts especially with Linton Gregor Dont forget you have dante's notes to read upon as welll

[@user-ck2no1en9m]

Hey Foreman, finally caught up with your limbus series, it's been awesome playing along and seeing your reactions to the game. Congrats on the new Yi Sang, he's bonkers

[@event-keystrim213]

43:56 SAME, I wanted to hear all of those swears, and imagine Meursault read them like a rapper

[@daxfer2945]

man that took some effort to restrain myself last part to not go on about continuing till the end since you were so close to the end of Murder on the Warp Express. Not like it would have mattered since you had done the video already during that part, just that leaving it off on the final nodes really bothered my sense of completion. So yeah that ending for Warp Express is something alright, too bad you haven't read Distortion Detective. Though you can still analyze based on the information solely in the game itself all the story moments that was there and how it changes after that revelation. Nice job getting Lament Yi Sang, he's a beast for sinking teams and seems pretty solid for general use outside it's intended team. I pray you get Lament Gregor and Red Penitence Ryoshu before the banner ends. Also isn't seeing everyone in the Main Room just get obliterated by a Noon Violet so nostalgic?

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

As a fan of the World of Darkness tabletop, everything involving bloodfiends is super exciting because the inspirations are very apparent.

[@xerxese5433]

I will imploreth that you invest in regret and shard him i you don't have it already. +2 coin power is nutty and funny and uses wrath and pride as its resources.

[@oatmeal3919]

Regarding the LCCB Ryoshu thing: Her support passive had some issues in damage calculation that made the damage output way, way higher than intended. Didn't really matter much until now, but Yi Sang and potential future ammo IDs would be immensely affected by this. As such, the passive was adjusted, and a refund was given.

[@event-keystrim213]

37:02 just know that it can CRUSH the whole event on it's own when uptie 4

[@terra6713]

59:10 when it falls it deals massive RED damage, once it's already on the floor it deals BLACK damage.

[@ishmaelerisia]

Clear all LCCB Manager Assistant Ryoshu

[@thundrr1929]

Used 110 pulls. 11 00 IDs. Ah, whatever, I'll just shard em next Walpurgisnacht.

[@LTDLetsPlays]

@@thundrr1929 I used 140 pulls to get all 3 so I’m happy

[@xelpad2379]

Ouchie. Oh well, you know what they say about gambling: "Quitters never win, winners never quit" :D

[@jeromebreton2764]

Man i had to use the 200 pull to get solemn yi sang

[@anothenblue2630]

Not sure if this was mentiond in comments before, but this is technially the SECOND time we see a Bloodfiend attack Warp train passengers. The main difference is that Elena wasn't able to actually eat anyone properly and was limited to making meat golems out of them, which is one of their powers apparently and not exclusive to her. It also prevented passengers from getting vaporized since they technically just got their bodies rearranged and merged. Really makes you wonder what else they can do.

[@infamousshadow2]

i don't know how good it might work for you but Red Eyes (open) can also work as a healing EGO it needs wrath, lust and envy

[@FortNwasShindi]

Here is my totally crackpot theory: Rocinante is a Seal made with J-Corps Singularity. As we know J-Corp singularity revolves around locking things conceptually which also means locking things like memories. Now here is where it gets stupid but makes sense. We know wings might have a primary application of their singularity with J-Corp’s being that of a Casino/Bank but what if they made shoes as well. What if J-Corp stood for Jordans Corp. So J-Corp makes Jays(Sneakers) as a side hustle/business and they made this exact ones for Don Quixote to seal her memories as a bloodfiend. Like i said, all predicated on nonsense but just think about it.

[@mfgrobin9657]

not a bad idea but knowing cain and on quixote lore it seems more plausable the "Barber" mentioned in this intervallo made them. (probably the guy in the canto 7 art).

[@sarge8049]

33:28 same, loved Hell's Chicken

[@halosammy14]

Congrats on catching up. Now you have to wait for story updates like the rest of us.

[@DemPop]

I'm sure many have mentioned this, but for funsies, you should check Don Quixote's base EGO again, specifically its passive. Her base ID, as well! :D It's been there all along.

[@kingragnarok7302]

Foreman: "I think people are going to be slightly disappointed with Canto 6" Intervalo: "So anyway, Don is a second-generation vampire, have fuuuuun!" I'm still shocked someone actually called it...

[@gameboom7579]

i went into walpurg with 220 pulls worth of stuff, and thankfully i got everything by the end of 140 pulls

[@xelpad2379]

What is wrong with "Faust's replied to Yi Sang's nebulous wording with a quiet affirmation"? Contractions can be used after names, and Faust has just replied, so the tense is correct. "Wording" belongs to Yi Sang, therefore the possessive 's is appropriate.

[@ForemanPlaysStuff]

It isn't. "Faust replied" or "Faust's reply" would be correct, though you'd need to reword the following sentences to make the second one work. "Faust's Replied" contains contradictory tenses.

[@xelpad2379]

@@ForemanPlaysStuff is it not "Faust has replied"? IIRC, Present Perfect used to show that the finished action has some relation to the present, here Faust finished her reply at that point, not in the past (as in yesterday). "Faust replied" would work if it happened some time ago.

[@titadogelo5090]

@@xelpad2379considering how the narration has been the entire game, that is unlikely. Dante was describing what was happening at that moment, so for them to say “has replied” instead of just “replied” or “replies” would be a weird inconsistency that doesn’t look like it serves any narrative purpose

[@xelpad2379]

@@titadogelo5090 that is something I can't quite remember. I feel like Dante is inconsistent with his past/present narration. But your explanation does make sense, thank you.

[@Michael2137.]

Dude if a maxed out employee with whitenight gear ever got out outside, say good bye to a wing, nest at least.

[@BrandiPrime]

Thinking about it they really threw away the opportunity to at least take some time off in their rooms in the corridor before walking into the sandstorm to skip the trip. Literally could just rest until they were sick of it and THEN do that skip.

[@KairOS5o]

Nah I'm with you Hell's Chicken was funny. It's also the only one with Meursault roasting and is therefore objectively the best Intervallo. The crab event was one that I also really liked, if only because it shows the game isn't afraid of making their character a frankly unlikeable (YMMV ofc) neurotic mess for the sake of the character's overall narrative. Shame that we lost the voiced dialogues after that due to VA scheduling issues.

[@celeste1764]

someone probably already commented but the noon initial drop into a room did red, dealt black with every other attack though you are correct partially

[@otherevan296]

Spoiler: The Sinners will die in the next Canto. Jokes aside, great work (with the normal Difficulty) Foreman~ The new IDs sre definitely complex, but they still follow the old templates to a degree. The walls of text may be daunting, but in the end they're all just easily broken up into conditionals. I hope the pull luck gets better in the future for everyone~

[@RealityMasterRogue]

foreman, getting 2 of the 3 banner headliners took me 280 pulls. I got 4 announcers, 3 ryoshu, and 3 EGO before i got isang, and i didn't pull lament gregor, i had to spark it.

[@kamanira]

So a little fun fact that kinda hinted at Don being a bloodfiend: Don't base ID is all about inflicting bleed and her base EGO is about inflicting bleed and healing off enemies who have bleed. Also, Solemn Lament Yi Sang is CRAZY good. A shame you didn't get The Red Mi-- I mean, Spider Bud & Penitence Ryoshu. Cause yeah, she's basically just Geburah Suppression Phase 1 but cooler in every way other than the fact she's not The Red Mist. She's a crazy strong tank-DPS, though I do believe SL Yi Sang one-ups her in sheer damage output. SL Gregor is CRAZY strong and has absurd synergy with SL Yi Sang. An unfortunate team to bring to Walpurgis 4 Hard, though. Grant Us Love resists Envy damage.

[@untoidk]

Grant Us Love

[@PlanetaryPhoenix]

I can’t help but find it funny how extremely wrong you were about the events that would happen. You thought for sure there would be another dungeon and there wasn’t, and you were insisting on that feeding to mephi option when that was also nowhere near truth…

[@ForemanPlaysStuff]

You can't deny that it was the perfect solution tho. With Castelli's regeneration, he and Mephi would become a self-sustaining economy, at least until they left the Warp

[@PlanetaryPhoenix]

@@ForemanPlaysStuff It definitely might be a good solution. We just had... more direct ones

[@ClinicallyInsane1]

No fucking way foreman got SL Yi Sang in 30 pulls and I used 190 and didn't get either him or Ryoshu 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@makovader2124]

Rizz sang

[@nakoamechi]

Rizz sang

[@CaptainGeneralPeace]

Grant us Love

[@aceisawesome_]

I'm p much of the same opinion regarding the intervallo, it was good and I loved little character moments (like the fact that yi sang and faust as a ship actually has something to work with now lol) but I prefer others over it. Hell's Chicken is really special to me bc it really was the first proper bonding moment the sinners get and it's really funny lmao. The Bloodfiend Don theory had popped up occasionally before the intervallo, and I had dismissed it bc it was mostly based on very loose interpretations of facts (and 1 or 2 actual points), plus I didn't see the point of making her one for what, a surprise betrayal? or if she's not aware she is one, why bother with that plot point in the first place? but this event tying it in with the character element that appears in all her IDs, plus the fact that her Bloodfiend side is seemingly suppressing herself willingly makes it a lot more interesting, since it raises a lot of "Why?" questions. I'm looking forwards to how they build Don Quijote with these building blocks in place :D

[@trenterman1328]

Honestly I don’t know if this is true but I think Sasha somehow lived and got away since they never confirmed that she went down with casetti I don’t thing

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

21:00 "She erased the bloodfiend *and his kindred* without a trace" Unfortunately I dont think she made it :(

[@trenterman1328]

@@GameBooAdvancePlus oh I must of missed that part, thx for the correction

[@jameswaag7464]

I personally suspect Murder on the Warp Express suffers from the changed plans regarding Intervallos. Specifically, when Limbus started there was supposed to be one Intervallo per Canto. After Canto 5 though, they decided they didn't have enough content to tide people over between Cantos, so they changed it to two. Which means that for both this set of Intervallos and the previous one, one Intervallo was planned out years in advance to fit in with the overall plot, and the other one... wasn't. For the previous set, it's likely that Miracle in DIstrict 20 was not the original plan, and the parts of it important to Canto 6 were originally going to come up in the BL Intervallo. For this one, I suspect the reveal for Don was probably supposed to happen in the same Intervallo as the stuff with Rodion, and splitting it into two *seperate* Intervallos resulted in the second one being a bit empty but with an important reveal at the end, since the content that *would* have filled the chapters before it was mostly shifted to TKT. I have no actual evidence to support that, but I feel like it makes sense.

[@steingrenadier5511]

RR4 when

[@buttsagonton101]

Since Don is THE second kindred, that just leaves the question on who the first is. Main theory I've seen around was Nosferatu, but wouldn't Nosferatu be the manifestation of people's idea of bloodfiends because of how abnos work?

[@somercat4335]

Strictly speaking, abnormalities are not limited to following a linear timescale. The nature of the "River" means that concepts that exist in the future may end up popping up in the past just as fine. This would imply that Nosferatu creates a circular chronological dependency, but the nature of the river as a source of all human possibility indicates that it can utilize every possibility and alternate world as well as the "main one" Which is to say, it already happened at some point, somewhere, even if not now, or here. These things just are capable of arising from the "collective subconscious" regardless.