Analog RF wireless audio - Better than Bluetooth?

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VWestlife

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@marios.k239
@marios.k239 3 ай бұрын
16:48 I'm only 17! Just really interested in old and obscure technology. This is one of my favourite chanels on this platform, along with Techmoan and Technology Connections. Awesome and interesting content as always!
@erendemiral4467
@erendemiral4467 3 ай бұрын
I'm actually 17 too.
@jub8891
@jub8891 3 ай бұрын
could you hear the pilot tone?
@marios.k239
@marios.k239 3 ай бұрын
@@jub8891 KZbin cuts out anything above 15khz. Last time i tried i could hear up to about 17khz, so i probably wouldn't be able to.
@sethcampbellmusic
@sethcampbellmusic 3 ай бұрын
I’m a bit older by a few years and I’m the same way. This stuff is fascinating.
@jamesdye4603
@jamesdye4603 3 ай бұрын
Good to know not all young people scoff at old tech. I predate the Apollo 11 launch by three years.
@cwh050
@cwh050 3 ай бұрын
I have a pair of old Sony wireless headphones. If I switch the base off, the headphones lock onto my neighbour’s base and I can listen in to what he’s watching (he has his connected to the TV). Even though he’s in his 80’s, he and his wife like to watch some of the more risqué late night programming.
@shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube2858
@shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube2858 3 ай бұрын
Yep those days were fun
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 ай бұрын
My experience of these things in the day was awful audio quality. I'm guessing today we don't have anything else analog competing on the 900Mhz band.
@Techlifeandmore
@Techlifeandmore 3 ай бұрын
Maybe still if you're in an urban environment but yeah cordless phones have largely gone away. These days there really isn't a lot of constantly transmitting stuff that uses this band, we still have the Z-Wave and Lora wireless technologies which both are pretty popular actually but they only transmit data periodically. Nowadays it's mainly the 2.4 GHz band but that's actually where digital is good because it can ignore interference easier.
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 3 ай бұрын
Don't cell phones have a 900 MHz band?
@Techlifeandmore
@Techlifeandmore 3 ай бұрын
@@fungo6631 I believe that cell phones and cellular networks use the 868 MHz band in the United States.
@charlie_nolan
@charlie_nolan 3 ай бұрын
@@fungo6631yes, but different frequencies
@charlie_nolan
@charlie_nolan 3 ай бұрын
Mostly, because there’s so much digital in 900 MHz now so it would probably add all sorts of annoying noises into analog 900 MHz devices. Also, anything analog in 900 MHz needs to transmit at least 500 kHz bandwidth, so that doesn’t help for interference.
@toastangler
@toastangler 3 ай бұрын
Whenever I was a teenager and cordless phones were in the 900mhz range, I could hear my neighbors conversations on my World Band radio. It was fun 😂
@dstroma
@dstroma 3 ай бұрын
Houses in my neighborhood were a little spread out so I didn't hear many but I will never forget the conversation I heard where the dad was scolding a young girl about not giving him a phone message. "Do so and so call today?" "Yes" "Did you tell me he called?" "No" "When people call for me you have to tell me!"
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 3 ай бұрын
That radio was of shitty quality. I imagine the audio quality too (unless they used AM). I have a 1970s West German radio with shortwave and it doesn't suffer from the same interference out of the shortwave band.
@toastangler
@toastangler 3 ай бұрын
@@fungo6631, It was in the mid 90's. I was 14 years old. I wasn't really concerned with the quality of the second hand world band radio that was gifted to me by my dad. I just thought it was neat that I could hear voices in other languages, and pick up cordless phones 😀
@toastangler
@toastangler 3 ай бұрын
@@dstroma, the first convo I heard... was my neighbor (we were the same age. 14) asking his friend "Are you going to the pool today?" His friend answers "no" Then he responds with "F@#k you, then!" 😆😆😆
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 3 ай бұрын
@@toastangler Understandable.
@shellac4682
@shellac4682 3 ай бұрын
Excellent posting and you're correct about the sound. There's an even earlier wireless precedent: in the 40's they manufactured record players that could transmit the signal to the AM band of a radio, not unlike the FM transmitters that were around for a while (and maybe still are) and required you to tune to a certain frequency.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 3 ай бұрын
There are still (88-108 Mhz Broadcast band) FM transmitters around. I got one off of Amazon last year to use in a 1977 Buick with a factory AM/FM Stereo radio with no cassette deck (and obviously no "AUX" jack...). My desire is to keep it all stock. The transmitter is tiny and has a built-in 3.5mm cord. I use it with an Mp3 player. Works good!
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 3 ай бұрын
Some of the 1980s Sony record decks sold in Japan had built in FM stereo transmitters. Illegal in the U.K. back then though. It wasn't until the iPod became popular that they finally allowed very low power transmitters.
@lenbeedle
@lenbeedle 3 ай бұрын
I had the more basic version of this exact unit. I didn't have the speakers. I used it to transmit music from tape out on the upstairs stereo to the aux in of the downstairs one. I actually soldered a 4.5 volt adapter to give the receiver permanent power. It sounded amazing for its time.
@xaenon
@xaenon 3 ай бұрын
Yes! I did something very similar! Mine wasn't a Recoton product, though. Some offbrand;... Tozai? I think?
@glufke
@glufke 3 ай бұрын
It’s amazing that you have the actual magazines!
@mrnmrn1
@mrnmrn1 3 ай бұрын
And the TV ad as well!
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 3 ай бұрын
These suckers were not cheap when they were new. As I recall, they sold for a couple hundred bucks, back when a couple hundred bucks bought a lot more than it does now. As a side note, I had lots of fun eavesdropping on neighbors' analog wireless phone conversations. All I needed to do was turn my own wireless phone's handset on, then unplug the base.
@Alabaster335
@Alabaster335 3 ай бұрын
I had a scanner in the car, I would drive through town with the scanner on "Close Call" so it instantly picked them up. The 30MHz (I think the frequency was back then) had a lot of range on them too, some I could hear nearly 1km away.
@charlie_nolan
@charlie_nolan 3 ай бұрын
The nerd in me wants to see you get a huge 900 MHz antenna, put it out with your other ones, and test the range of this thing. 900 MHz has great building penetration.
@Hugh_Hunt
@Hugh_Hunt 3 ай бұрын
7:32 ClassicGameRoom flashbacks!!
@Madness832
@Madness832 3 ай бұрын
About 17 years ago, I had a set of 900MHz analog headphones (from RadioShack, if I remember right). And I also had a 900MHz DSS cordless phone. I don't ever remember the latter interferin' w/ the former.
@collectingonthecheap56353
@collectingonthecheap56353 3 ай бұрын
I remember seeing these advertised in various magazines and fliers. I never had these wireless ones, but do remember having some Recoton speakers and felt like they were fine for use in a bedroom and didn't expect them to be used to broadcast to an audience in an auditorium. These actually still seem to work quite well and as advertised.
@mdavis5826
@mdavis5826 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Really love these older solutions for home audio systems!
@xaenon
@xaenon 3 ай бұрын
This is actually very clever. By using a simple RF receiver, it allowed Recoton to use off-the-shelf computer speakers and headphones in their package (no need to engineer anything special!), as well as allowing for the end user to easily upgrade those items.
@mr_ice117
@mr_ice117 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when i got my first fm transmitter back in my teen days. The cheap ones that run off of 2 AAA batteries. I was able to modify it to transmit a signal strong enough to be heard down the block. Of course i only had it on a few times to avoid getting in trouble but it was badass that it was possible. RF has always fascinated me, how it moves through the air and interacts with walls and antennas. The different ways of capturing and tuning into different signals... so many possibilities
@deebeenine
@deebeenine 3 ай бұрын
Some of these RF systems are able to transmit digital audio as well. I had a video/audio transmitter with cinch in/out a few years ago and was able to transmit PCM and even Dolby Digital audio from one room to the other via the video sockets.
@nortenorancio4884
@nortenorancio4884 3 ай бұрын
This is genuinely more practical than any bluetooth headphones I've owned
@Gunbudder
@Gunbudder 3 ай бұрын
i have a wireless RF playstation 2 controller from around 2003 or so, and its incredible. it was made by logitech and to this day it is still the best quality RF device i've ever used. it had insane power and range and ran for weeks off of 2 AA batteries. every other wireless device was line of sight IR at the time, so this thing was like space age magic. even modern devices don't come close to how well the controller worked. i suspect that is largely because the RF space is completely blasted with devices now though
@wmalden
@wmalden 3 ай бұрын
I had the Advent brand of this technology. I had a speaker in almost every room of the house and an outdoor portable speaker. It worked well for a few years but the system began to be plagued by bursts of random static, I have always believed the static was caused by smart meters which came after I deployed the system. Eventually, I abandoned that system for Apple Airplay via AirPort Express which I still use to this day.
@HazewinDog
@HazewinDog 3 ай бұрын
This is true space age technology. I had no idea this was possible this early in time. Very cool! Plus... I vould use that extended range. The range on new Bluetooth headphone only seems to get shorter over time...
@nykwynes
@nykwynes 3 ай бұрын
I have a pair of RF headphones from years back. They were a budget model that operated in the 49 MHz range and was mono! But it was still convenient to listen to music all around the house while doing various tasks on multiple floors. Range wasn’t bad. Couldn’t do that with modern BT.
@gatomatias1
@gatomatias1 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful, love old tech!
@Kruton1122
@Kruton1122 3 ай бұрын
I had one of those IR audio transmitters you showed in that catalog only it wasn’t called “marriage saver” it was called something else, anyway, the thing actually did work really well, it didn’t need direct line of sight, only needed to be able to be generally around it. It was really good at picking up the IR. The only issue I ever had with it was it had constant white noise in the background, probably due to regular light interference.
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 14 күн бұрын
In my own experience with IR headphones, you couldn't sit in the sun and use them, as the IR in the sunlight would completely overwhelm the signal, giving you an earful of static. I also get the same issue with remote controls not working during the day in the winter because the living room is flooded with sunlight, so you have to go to about four metres from the device before it will actually pick up the signal from the remote control.
@deepblueskyshine
@deepblueskyshine 3 ай бұрын
Well up to 2010s there were Philips analog wireless headphones with built-in receiver and rechargeable cell, not any different in appearance from regular 40mm cabled models - good sound, long range and walking beyond the range was preceeded by a typical "fm noise". Plus, there was a way to have several sets connected to a single transmitter without any kind of tuning - home/office radio of a kind. "Flying saucer" desing of this transmitter is a kind of fun - recalls memories of the times of Siemens' and Motorola's "shoe phones".
@Ralph-r2i
@Ralph-r2i 3 ай бұрын
Cgr in the house!!!! Mark would definitely prefer analog transmissions to Bluetooth
@Onteo1
@Onteo1 3 ай бұрын
DAK ! Awesome catalogue! Drew Alan Kaplan. Always perused it and bought a lot of interesting items. Notably I got my first “Walkman” with an FM radio adapter, I still have it and it works great.
@Petertronic
@Petertronic 3 ай бұрын
I had Sennheiser wireless headphones which I used extensively in the early 2000's, they were great. I use BT ones now but the range is poor and if the microwave oven is running, reception is impossible in the kitchen :)
@audubon5425
@audubon5425 3 ай бұрын
Love those cabinet latches
@bangskij
@bangskij 3 ай бұрын
this is a tour de force, love the music
@RussKnize
@RussKnize 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I had this wireless system, once upon a time. It worked well for the day.
@StuffJason437
@StuffJason437 3 ай бұрын
Yup! The modern versions of these basically have a tower that has a mono FM transmitter & microphone inside, and headphones with a built-in radio. Did you know that the mono transmitter inside the tower of the modern ones doesn't have a phase lock? This means that over time, they will change frequency on their own and cause interference with nearby licensed radio stations, without you knowing about it or being able to re-tune it without taking it apart !!. The headphones themselfs are wired in mono, the "Transmitter" tower is also broadcasting in mono and overall it's not worth £9.99 at any shop. I kinda prefer Stereo FM over bluetooth and I can tell the difference. Bluetooth is noisy when battery is low and FM is only noisy when signal is poor. I usually have a private home-made radio station for such things.
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303 3 ай бұрын
Analog RF systems like these are still cool and definitely usable. Sure, things like Bluetooth can be convenient, but at least this is a really easy plug and play solution. Even IR wireless systems are cool, especially something like the Sony Laserlink! When it comes to something like iTunes, I do use the AirPlay functionality as it works great even on old devices like the iPad 1, iPhone 4, etc. It’s a good digital solution and definitely better than streaming/subscription nonsense. For physical media or an addition into a HiFi or Home Theater setup, something like this would be great to have!
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 3 ай бұрын
omg The Wiz. I forgot about them. They only had one I knew of in our area and Circuit City was way more prolific
@Earcandy73
@Earcandy73 3 ай бұрын
I have a Recoton set with better speakers but the same transmitter. Each speaker has a switch to pick left, right, or mono. The speakers sound fantastic but they static even when pretty close to the transmitter. The speakers have really heavy power supplies- 15 volts at 1.5 amps.
@paulweston1106
@paulweston1106 3 ай бұрын
I've still got a set of those Sony headphones shown in the Crutchfield Catalogue; unfortunately the pads on the headphones have fallen apart but they do technically work and the base works fine. The base takes an Optical input and does a decent job of providing surround sound; I used to have mine connected to the DVD player as it was better than the surround from my TV.
@traxonwax
@traxonwax 3 ай бұрын
Still cracks me up that you use the SHITS FM pic from 2002. That’s our claim to fame I guess.
@grimninja2004
@grimninja2004 3 ай бұрын
jvc made a pair of those inferred headphones that we were forced to use to hear the output of picture in picture on our 24 inch jvc tube tv in the living room. we also had multiple recton devices, but for audio and sending video from room to room
@squishysam
@squishysam 3 ай бұрын
I completely forgot about "Nobody beats the Wiz"!
@CicadaMania
@CicadaMania 3 ай бұрын
I like my Sennheiser headphones more than any Bluetooth solution I've tried so far.
@karolyvarga8872
@karolyvarga8872 3 ай бұрын
I had a misfortune to test some fm wireless Senheiser that was actually monophonic. The transmitter commonized the stereo signal to mono. The receiver was also mono. That was not my purchase. I found somewhere thrown out. Maybe who owned was disappointed too where the stereo image was.
@toddlee2571
@toddlee2571 3 ай бұрын
I've used some of this gear in the past. I had Sony tower speakers with wireless rear channel speakers. I've had Sony wireless headphones. I find BT technology to be superior. I like the sound quality I get from BT better. I love the portability and connectivity of BT. Analog wireless was noisy and susceptible to interference. I'll stick with BT. Analog wireless was fine until something better came along.
@paulcooper8818
@paulcooper8818 3 ай бұрын
I had this system back in the 90s and there was a lot of static even when everything was in the same room. Also the audio quality wasn't all that good, but my girlfriend like them just fine. She had them in the bedroom so to listen to the main stereo in the living room while studying. The bed room and living room had a shared wall so the broadcast distance was quite short.
@Gadgetman1989
@Gadgetman1989 3 ай бұрын
Viewer 2268, loving your videos on things like this, I always wanted something like this when i was a kid lol great video as always
@jon-paulgrainger1303
@jon-paulgrainger1303 3 ай бұрын
That Lincs Fm jingle is that from the UK? It sounded very familiar...
@chase1504
@chase1504 3 ай бұрын
A few questions. (I'm 24 I'm not that old) 1. 1:08 "license free use" ... is that means anyone can still develop this audio equipments nowadays ? 2. How this RF analog devices can fell out of targeted markets/audiences ? Like why it have been replaced ? 3. Is this RF analog devices just a radio, is that means anyone can (tried to) built something like this in the future ?
@yanks1fan09
@yanks1fan09 3 ай бұрын
The Dog on the box didn't seem impressed by the product. A real Bow Wow Wow!
@visionofwellboyofficial
@visionofwellboyofficial Ай бұрын
Better quality than the modern Chinese counterparts, one of them which I have (and used to listen)
@ajspice
@ajspice 3 ай бұрын
You didn't have to show the cover of that magazine. Now I'm sad.
@mistsmogguru8378
@mistsmogguru8378 3 ай бұрын
I've got something very similar. I'm old however. Only one ear still works but it's the memory letting me down this time, I can't remember where they are. Dang
@charlie_nolan
@charlie_nolan 3 ай бұрын
The signal is actually probably higher fidelity than FM radio. I don’t know if it was this way at the time, but now anything analog in 900 MHz has to emit a 500 kHz wide signal, or use frequency hopping. I have a background in 2 way radio so I am full of this useless info. FM radio is 200 kHz at most.
@ajaugenti1976
@ajaugenti1976 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah!!!!!!!
@jdekong3945
@jdekong3945 3 ай бұрын
The VWestlife version of the Techmoan plastic removal moment 😸
@stealth210
@stealth210 3 ай бұрын
"If you're old enough to be interested in this stuff, you probably can't hear it anyway" -- personally attacked😄
@CasualSpud
@CasualSpud 3 ай бұрын
What did he say? 🤡
@netsparro1989
@netsparro1989 3 ай бұрын
Did you say : "you're cold enough" ?
@Charlesb88
@Charlesb88 3 ай бұрын
Why would I care if I can’t shear a stiff? 🦻
@Natfromtheinternet
@Natfromtheinternet 3 ай бұрын
lol, well I'm only 18, and I'm interested in this kind of stuff, I personally can hear the tone tho is very faint not something that would be too much of a bother unless your source audio level is very low
@gevelegian
@gevelegian 3 ай бұрын
@@Natfromtheinternet Thank you young man for giving us the experience of what is like to be young. I wish this generation all the best and will do my best to see that you can make it!
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 3 ай бұрын
I love how both Techmoan and VWestlife have groovy music when peeling off plastic.
@Fluteboy
@Fluteboy 3 ай бұрын
PEEL IT SLOWER
@LapisandHamtarolover
@LapisandHamtarolover 3 ай бұрын
Matt Techmoan: 'Oh yeah, that's it, take it off!'
@sf-dn8rh
@sf-dn8rh 3 ай бұрын
oddity Archive started using music as well for plastic peel off
@cheezyandsticky
@cheezyandsticky 26 күн бұрын
classic game room here
@segarallychampionship702
@segarallychampionship702 3 ай бұрын
4:05 honestly, i would prefer static to complete dropouts or just messed up audio
@jacob1121
@jacob1121 3 ай бұрын
Don't you just love it when too many people are using their Bluetooth headsets on the bus and you get random dropouts, great design!
@hectormiguelperezgomez6612
@hectormiguelperezgomez6612 3 ай бұрын
At least with static you can still listen to the audio and at least I would prefer that. The same with TV, with analog TV you could still watch it and now with digital it's watchable or not, it's of better quality but I would sacrifice that.
@kassemir
@kassemir 3 ай бұрын
@@jacob1121 I don't ride the bus, so I never thought about that. It's almost like wired headphones are better. But, guess they gotta make that dongle money, so who cares about all of that.
@vaughanwarburton9623
@vaughanwarburton9623 3 ай бұрын
I got given a cheep Chinese mp3 player with but in Bluetooth I connected it to my cheep wireless Bluetooth headphones and was astonished at the range 😅 it was around 4 inches 😂 when mowing the lawn I have to keep the player under my hat that way I get a fair signal 😂
@stitchfinger7678
@stitchfinger7678 3 ай бұрын
​@@kassemirBluetooth is literally from before it was common for phones to have non-proprietary headphones sockets.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 3 ай бұрын
Every time that music kicked in, I was taken back to "Classic Game Room" videos from 10 years ago! xD
@carltonleboss
@carltonleboss 3 ай бұрын
True
@gabesyt4863
@gabesyt4863 3 ай бұрын
im glad someone else caught that lol
@Fuzy2K
@Fuzy2K 3 ай бұрын
"Is a tree as much of a tree when I don't have a Sega Saturn?"
@mumboking
@mumboking 3 ай бұрын
I was expecting it to transition into "Flock Of Cowboys"
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 3 ай бұрын
I miss CGR. It was the Vectrex's greatest champion.
@joshm264
@joshm264 3 ай бұрын
We've unlocked new parts of the house!
@sweet750-sc1rr
@sweet750-sc1rr 3 ай бұрын
I feel so privileged!
@rynair_winklair
@rynair_winklair 2 ай бұрын
Please tell me im not the only one that laughed when seeing that his car is a VW
@applescruff1969
@applescruff1969 Ай бұрын
​@@rynair_winklair Why would one laugh at that?
@rynair_winklair
@rynair_winklair Ай бұрын
@@applescruff1969 because of his channel name
@JustPeasant
@JustPeasant 3 ай бұрын
In the '80s, the digital watches were the rage. 2009 to 2016, 3D cinemas were the fad. In the current year, everything is a subscription service: from your car, video games (live service games), music, tv shows, movies (streaming) to scrotum trimmers and everything in between (no pun intended). So far, 2020s suck.
@jamesdye4603
@jamesdye4603 3 ай бұрын
Welcome to the age of not actually owning what you buy.
@JustPeasant
@JustPeasant 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesdye4603 Quite so...
@vhfgamer
@vhfgamer 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesdye4603 AKA... socialism
@m_rocka
@m_rocka 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget AI and IoT.
@JustPeasant
@JustPeasant 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesdye4603 Indeed.
@Geferulf_TAS
@Geferulf_TAS 3 ай бұрын
REAL analog digital.
@shortcat
@shortcat 3 ай бұрын
what is the fake one?
@robertoXCX
@robertoXCX 3 ай бұрын
What's next, digital analog?
@vertujoe2886
@vertujoe2886 3 ай бұрын
like this comment as much as my black and white color TV.
@qwertykeyboard5901
@qwertykeyboard5901 3 ай бұрын
​@@robertoXCXYes.
@coen123
@coen123 3 ай бұрын
@@shortcat the one that doesn't make you feel mighty real
@jonwheal
@jonwheal 3 ай бұрын
That Lincs FM jingle is hilarious. RIP Lincs FM - now yet another relay of Hits Radio.
@cerealfamine1
@cerealfamine1 3 ай бұрын
1:53 nobody beats the Wiz! Seinfeld memory unlocked.
@Controllerhead
@Controllerhead 3 ай бұрын
Ain't nobody gonna beat the Wiz!
@saxman112
@saxman112 3 ай бұрын
Heh, love the callback to that “Lincs FM 10-s**t.2” jingle blooper at 17:07! I did a double take when I heard it!
@greatquux
@greatquux 3 ай бұрын
YES, a DAK catalog!!!! Oh man, you’ve opened the can of worms. I need reviews on everything you can get your hands on in there! Loved reading that as a kid and dreaming about those items. Hell you can even review the bread maker!!
@wilkes85
@wilkes85 3 ай бұрын
I use 900MHz wireless headphones and it's so much better than bluetooth, like you said, no lag or lossy compression... but also, it just plain works. I used to hear my neighbour's cordless phone on them every once in a while... I wonder if they heard my music haha. That giant antenna is kinda goofy when the actual antenna inside is probably just a small wire lol.... but it was the '90s, it made it look futuristic and hi-tech lol.
@scottlp2323
@scottlp2323 3 ай бұрын
You've just reminded me of another Recoton set of speakers I owned in the early 90s. They worked by sending the audio signal through the mains wires to the two mains powered speakers. They were superb. As heavy as breeze blocks, the powered unit even more so, but better sounding than JBL Control 1s. Here in the UK they were being sold by Rumbelows. More known for white goods than hi-fi equipment, they started off at £120. Way, way more than teenage me could afford. After a few months, they went down to £40 because, like I said, most buyers came in for a fridge or washing machine. I could just about afford that and so glad I took the plunge. There was a decoder that sat near your source, connected by stereo phono leads and then to the mains. Then the two speakers. One plugged into the mains with the amp inside and the other speaker connected to that with black/red speaker wires. As long as it was on the same ring main, it worked flawlessly. After a couple of years I decided to make dedicated enclosures for the two speakers and a separate box for the amp and mains circuitry. Sounded even better. :)
@Iron_Condorr
@Iron_Condorr 3 ай бұрын
2:52 - "I find this meatloaf to be shallow and pedantic."
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 3 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe with Bluetooth is the delays. Even the "low latency" variants still have latency, and irregular latency at that. I have a very technical wedding coming up, and we're actually going to use an FM transmitter with small FM receivers strapped to the back of the speakers throughout the venue due to latency issues with digital.
@CARLiCON
@CARLiCON 3 ай бұрын
I still have the JVC version of this from the 90s, essentially the same thing but with bigger better speakers. I bought them to use for adding a pair of rear surround speakers without having to deal with cables. Still works great!
@chongtak
@chongtak 3 ай бұрын
I hate bluetooth, it's not reliable. 4.0 or fancy 5.3, it's the same crap. Refuses to work with some devices after some time. Need to be repaired constantly, sometimes is invisible for some reason.
@bavideomaker29
@bavideomaker29 3 ай бұрын
In early 2000s had the Terk Leapfrog wireless AV setup to send my wife's TiVo from upstairs bedroom down to a 13" LCD I mounted under kitchen cabinets. What a mess of gear and cables, all replaced in 2010 with an iPad.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 3 ай бұрын
"We will now pause for several seconds of fine music." - one of my favourite lines is back!
@briantaylor3031
@briantaylor3031 3 ай бұрын
The peel music just sent me back 10 years in KZbin to binging classic game room...i miss that channel
@mdavis5826
@mdavis5826 3 ай бұрын
CGR is still around!❤
@tlhIngan
@tlhIngan 3 ай бұрын
Well these days 900MHz works well because fewer devices are using it. In the 90s and early 2000s when it was crowded with cordless phones and other wireless stuff, it didn't sound so good. Nowadays everything is using 2.4GHz but you don't notice it as it's all digital. But back in the 90s, you'd get maybe 100 feet before you could only receive your neighbour's audio or phone calls. These days, 900MHz is used by garage door openers, and smart meters. That's how clear it is.
@MrDmbright65
@MrDmbright65 3 ай бұрын
To this day I still have a set of Advent 2 way wireless speakers with a 6" woofer and 1" mylar dome tweeter. Each speaker has it's own tunable receiver with a switch for left/right/mono and runs off of a supplied DC adapter or 8 C cells. I use them to pipe music outside during the holidays, especially Halloween with spooky sound effects or Halloween music. At the time I bought these, Advent was owned by the Recoton corporation (there's actually a Recoton sticker on the back of each speaker). Unlike the speakers in the video, mine sound quite nice for a small 2 way and can play quite loud. How may of us remember reading those DAK catalogs at the beginning of the video? I swear every item description in the catalog read like a 2am infomercial...full of outrageous hype and over-the-top praise of the product...I still love some of the stuff that showed up in those catalogs though🤩
@cheater00
@cheater00 3 ай бұрын
You totally should make a video comparing the quality of bluetooth reception in those same locations. I think the results would be interesting 😁
@vadnegru
@vadnegru 3 ай бұрын
That would be extremely boring. Just constant dropping in and out with reconnection in between.
@cheater00
@cheater00 3 ай бұрын
@@vadnegru i know 😂 that's what would make it so funny 😂
@DerekLippold
@DerekLippold 3 ай бұрын
Bluetooth is pretty short range but to be fair, you don’t usually have the two devices far enough apart.
@a1white
@a1white 3 ай бұрын
Wi-Fi transmission (AirPlay) would probably beat both
@vadnegru
@vadnegru 3 ай бұрын
@@a1white there are not that many but wifi headphones exists
@Michael-ee7nk
@Michael-ee7nk 3 ай бұрын
These were also rebranded under the Radio Shack Optimus brand. The set I had around 2000-2001 was Cat. No. 33-1165 Professional Series 900MHz Wireless Headphones.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 3 ай бұрын
The number of things I find that they rebranded is amazing. I did not know that one. I knew their microphones and amplifiers were re-branded it was a great way to get a really professional microphone without knowing it.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 3 ай бұрын
@@imark7777777Most of it was Pioneer, but they did use other manufacturers, too. Churches and schools, even a radio station I worked at used their gear, it was so good.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 3 ай бұрын
I worked at a Radio Shack in the early 2000's...... I recall both the RF and IR versions of the headphones.
@andrewinnj
@andrewinnj 3 ай бұрын
I used to have one of those Big Ben Moon Beam clocks! Your house is just full of stuff I either used to have or wanted 😂
@thewoodgrainloverofatari5931
@thewoodgrainloverofatari5931 3 ай бұрын
lot of classic game room music used in this video gotta love it
@Claro1993
@Claro1993 3 ай бұрын
0:49 In some case, the headphones themselves have the infrared receiver built-in.
@iancurrie8844
@iancurrie8844 3 ай бұрын
I bet there's lower latency, too making it more suitable for "gaming" applications.
@deletesoon70
@deletesoon70 3 ай бұрын
This is actually a very desirable piece of equipment, this has value 👍
@Controllerhead
@Controllerhead 3 ай бұрын
I had a wireless guitar transmitter from like 2001 which sounded clear as day, probably operating on similar technology, i miss that thing! I think those old RF devices worked amazing, and most importantly for playing an instrument, all but lag free! Bluetooth lags like a mother lover... These are amazing devices and i'm glad you showcased one of these wonderful things.
@TheResistorNetwork
@TheResistorNetwork 3 ай бұрын
1:23 - There is also an interesting and modern 900MHz WiFI standard called 802.11ah. The modules are becoming very cheap now. I was able to establish a multi-mile link at around 1mbps+. Very neat stuff.
@coondogtheman
@coondogtheman 3 ай бұрын
Loving that classic game room music. Miss that channel. I have something like this but it doesnt transmit at 900mhz but on the regular FM band so the headphones are basically an auto scan FM radio. Not the greatest quality but they work. My RTL-SDR receiver dongle can pick up the 900 Mhz band but there isnt much to listen to in my area.
@mdavis5826
@mdavis5826 3 ай бұрын
CGR is still around! 25th anniversary!
@coondogtheman
@coondogtheman 3 ай бұрын
@@mdavis5826 Good. Still love that channel. Curious what happened to that panasonic DVC-PRO video deck he had.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 3 ай бұрын
Why am I not surprised that there are people out there who will seriously begrudge someone for listening to a record over Bluetooth? I loved the bit of blamestorming in that magazine article as to whose fault the frequency conflicts were. It's still here today, in the three non-overlapping 2.4 GHz wi-fi channels and all the things that conspire to create interference because they too operate on those same frequencies! This many iterations later, one might think these things would be a bit better thought out by the standards bodies and various communication authorities. ("Yes, these things will get popular. Define more unique frequencies than you think you might need.") As a youngster, I well remember discovering that my father's scanner radio had no problem picking up the 49 MHz cordless phones we had at the time. Quite a while later, I learned that his newer scanner could also pick up our 900 MHz cordless phone, though that one employed frequency hopping while operating.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 3 ай бұрын
The infrared worked fantastic and had fantastic sound. The only problem was if someone walked in front of you. I still own a pair of the headphones. They also have a built-in AM FM radio . Over the years I have misplaced the sending unit.
@fisqual
@fisqual 2 ай бұрын
I was ready for these to be junk but wow! Bluetooth could never go 70 feet. But also I guess 900mhz is rarely used.these days so very low interference.
@buitreador
@buitreador 3 ай бұрын
oh boy...i still have the Sennheiser HDR100 i bought in 2007 to get rid of the cables. It operates in RF at 900Mhz and the base stops transmitting in 3 minutes if no sound is playing, then if you start playing something it wakes up with a 1 or 2 seconds of delay. It uses 2 x AAA batteries and was quite decent, often with a range capable of 30 or 40 meters. A funny thing with this headphones its that back in the day i could hear the cordless phone from my neib of the 1st floor perfectly when the base stopped sending signal (i was in the 2nd floor) but it only catches one side of the conversation. I used them for about 12 years until i replaced them with a bose bluetooth headphones in my pc at a comparable price ($150 now, 100 back in 2007), obviusly the bose wipes the floor with the RF headphones since there is no interference and the audio is clear (you had a dial in the HDR100 to tune with the base and was very finicky). Keep in mind that there was no bluetooth 2.0 devices in 2007 and that was not a thing until 2009 with the Motorola S9, so there was no other option.
@kassemir
@kassemir 3 ай бұрын
You weren't kidding about the dynamic range in that example :) Also, the range of bluetooth really is quite bad.
@Hamboarding
@Hamboarding Ай бұрын
1:18 What do industrial donut fryers use the 902-928 MHz band for⁇
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 3 ай бұрын
There was a weird gaming chair recliner thing for kids at Walmart. You are meant to plug your devices into it and it had speakers. Well apparently they also had a 900 MHz wireless transmitter kit I managed to find one somewhere it doesn't work nearly that good unfortunately it would've been very useful. I was also given two sets of wireless headphones due to not being used I got one and then later the other. It's a bad about technology and now not a lot is using 900 MHz these days, with people ditching their land lines less cordless phone usage and with baby monitors and security cameras going to 2.4 GHz for marketing reasons. I don't think there's a lot of stuff there these days there's certainly not as much as there was. Oh and I can hear 16 kHz I don't know if I've ever noticed an FM carrier though because I think most of the radio I have use filters.
@Eddies_Bra-att-ha-grejer
@Eddies_Bra-att-ha-grejer 3 ай бұрын
What's even the point of wireless headphones? Wireless speakers kinda make sense if you're having a party and you want to pass around the device that provides music so people can queue up whatever they like, but headphones are for personal audio and then you would pretty much always have the device close to you, usually on your body. It has always felt like some kind of stupid gimmick like wireless keyboards.
@ObiWanBillKenobi
@ObiWanBillKenobi 3 ай бұрын
RF is nearly always without exception better than IR. This product is an example of why.
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 3 ай бұрын
I used to own a pair of Sony FM wireless headphones. The phones were lovely, with great sound and immense comfort on my ears. But the FM reception was dire, no better than a standard old radio.
@shun0825
@shun0825 3 ай бұрын
your video have shown me how good this 4$ PC speakers I bought online 🤣🤣🤣 and it supports dolby atmos
@VulpisFoxfire
@VulpisFoxfire 3 ай бұрын
I remember All Electronics used to sell a FM transmitter that did much the same thing...I used them in combination with a radio/headphones combo.
@devinsmith4790
@devinsmith4790 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of radio, anyone ever heard of Sci-Fi Old Time Radio? Seems like a station based off in Livonia, MI (not far from where I live) and it plays what you expect from the name, classic Sci-fi stuff like Star Trek.
@azoriusmage
@azoriusmage 3 ай бұрын
I used to listen all the time love the old Sci-Fi
@devinsmith4790
@devinsmith4790 3 ай бұрын
@@azoriusmage I discovered it via a site called Radio Garden, which let's you pick some stations via green dots on a Google Earth-like globe.
@bluekewne
@bluekewne 3 ай бұрын
I got one of the Sennheiser ones as a Christmas gift in 2007 - it would occasionally pick up people's phone calls on wireless handsets for landlines. Of course I didn't listen to any of their calls or anything.
@standup109
@standup109 3 ай бұрын
7:34 I know it’s part of your cd royalty free music, but all I think of is classic game room XD
@myface6739
@myface6739 3 ай бұрын
sylvania used to sell some "wireless headphones" for your tv that used rf . I got some for christmas but the build quality of them were terrible.
@zolii204
@zolii204 3 ай бұрын
You're liar. THERE'S WIRES IN MY WIRELESS DEVICE!!!!
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