Analog Tape vs Digital: Can You Hear The Difference? (Multitracks Included!) - Marc Daniel Nelson

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In this episode of MakeMineMusic, Marc Daniel Nelson breaks down a song by Chicago blues artist S. Joel Norman. Watch as Marc talks and shows the difference between recording on analog tape and digital. Follow along with him as he breaks down the sonic changes and emotions between a song that has been recorded both on 2 inch tape and digital. Included are the multitracks of this amazing session.
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@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
I get asked all he time about the differences between Tape and Digital! Here, Marc Damiel Nelson has very kindly created a video showing those differences! You can download the multi tracks for yourself and compare in your listening environment! Also, you can evaluate what Tape Emulation plug ins may bring to your mix! Here are the tracks:- producelikeapro.com/marc-daniel-nelson-analog-vs-digital/ What are some of your favourite mixing tricks?
@oldunclemick
@oldunclemick 3 жыл бұрын
Doing as much as I can _before_ hitting Record. I'm not afraid to use some EQ and a touch of compression on the way in because I started out on a 244 when there was no other choice (I had one compressor and one effects box). I mix waaaay too slowly to risk failing to commit to the sound from the beginning. I also punch-in rather than comping - especially now we have Undo for those times when the punch is even worse! 😀
@acimbobby
@acimbobby 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to try Mastering first on each track of the song and sort that first. Then give it to the AI to mix down Then get a real person (like Warren) to sort it out properly with the wife's help!
@janbramburek2006
@janbramburek2006 3 жыл бұрын
Many of them, but lately i like to send doubled vocal only to vox reverbs and delays sends, and not to the mixbus. The main vocal stays dry. Interesting sound. Much wider.
@TheFeelButton
@TheFeelButton 3 жыл бұрын
Yellow and blue make green
@TheSlickoify
@TheSlickoify 3 жыл бұрын
Putting Sausage Fattener on everything.
@simonslee73
@simonslee73 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best video ever made to illustrate the differences so concisely
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s wonderful to hear!!
@AdamGotheridge
@AdamGotheridge 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. The wonderful recording and performances don't hurt either. :)
@LosFicosMusic
@LosFicosMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Thanks for this. WE NEED TO BRING BACK TAPE!!!!
@phladjki
@phladjki 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 9 ай бұрын
It was good, and it would have been much better without the "Back to Tape!" and "Back to Digital!" exposition, and kept to text-only during the audio comparison. We can't even hear 2 measures of A/B without a massive V/O interruption :(
@LarryLobo
@LarryLobo Жыл бұрын
That snare sound on tape is priceless!
@borndrumming1972
@borndrumming1972 3 жыл бұрын
As musician/producer who was raised by a musician through the 70's and 80's, who played records and cassettes of all kinds of music everyday, that sound is so familiar. When you play the digi version it is nice. It is clear. It has some vibe. But when you kick in the tape RS it just feels like the 70's. It changed the feeling in my body. Not just what I could hear but how it felt. Amazing. Thanks for sharing this!
@davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596
@davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596 Жыл бұрын
The silky, warming effect of the tape is so comforting. It's subtle, but it's sublimely essential.
@KariKauree
@KariKauree 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, those drums sound so nice! No matter if digital or tape, because they're so well tuned and recorded
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Very true! Great instrument played well!
@jason.martin
@jason.martin 3 жыл бұрын
The Tape version sounds amazing, Time and Time again when I go back to some of my old listening favs that were done on tape they always have a superior sound type to them. This demonstrates the tpe effect and how it is so pleasing to the ears
@TheChadPad
@TheChadPad 3 жыл бұрын
God, the way the tape just hits me...idk if it's bias, but I just get chills listening to the tape here. I'm even TRYING to get that same feeling listening to the digital, and.....I can't. It's not just what I'm HEARING, but what I'm FEELING listening to it. Low frequencies hitting me in the chest, vibrating at a deeper resonance within me. It's like, the digital is all cerebral, but the analog is in my chest, if that makes sense. On a side note, what GREAT piano playing! Mic choice was superb for it as well, wonderful tone, both analog and digital
@mohdzulfadli6276
@mohdzulfadli6276 Жыл бұрын
When the choir breakdown came in.. Digital got almost ZERO VIBES when compared to tapes.. and I listened with my eyes closed.. thanks for this highly educating video 🙏
@Jayrawk
@Jayrawk 3 жыл бұрын
Love the thickening compression and depth of tape. I don’t miss the hiss.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@danielkharrat
@danielkharrat 3 жыл бұрын
Now i understand the difference, the digital print has sharper transients and more space between the instruments while the tape sounds softer on the transients and fuller overall Thanks ever so much for this clear comparison!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
That's definitely a big part of it!
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 3 жыл бұрын
And the compression ... and don't forget the lovely hiss.
@keith-marvk-harrisii8666
@keith-marvk-harrisii8666 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the question is a valid one to ask tells you all you need to know. Very cool comparison.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much
@KevinWale
@KevinWale 3 жыл бұрын
there are two storis told in both examples. 1. this is fantastically educational in hearing the very noticeable things tape does. easily one of the best videos you will ever every see on the subject. 2. a fantastic engineer and fantastic set of musicians and a fantastic producer made a beautiful wonderful recording, and both sound wonderful. those little openings up of low mids and whatnot are wonderful in the tape, but if someone said, "You have to use those digital files," I'd be thrilled to do so because Marc and team just made a beautiful recording that sounds ready to go. I can promise that if someone told Marc that he had to use the digital files, he'd make it sound out of this world amazing. get a tape machine if you can, but dang... the end of the story is, both of those examples just tell the tale that your tape recording is likely not going to sound as good as his digital unless you're already a boss because it's all in the musicians, the music, and the production team capturing it all right. this isn't a mix, and it sounds mixed both digital and analog. just so good.
@mannyfernando7198
@mannyfernando7198 7 ай бұрын
I love how even though the analog tape is used in some tracks for this mix, it’s still mixed in digital using a digital capture of the analog recording! The fact that digital is still able to capture the analog “warmth” or can be used in pure form for a sharper , clearer sound shows its versatility.
@57Techboy
@57Techboy 3 жыл бұрын
Having worked in both mediums, there is no better or worse, just different. Different vibe, different detail, different dynamics. I love the warmth of tape and the definition of digital. Variety is the spice of life.
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg Жыл бұрын
Which of them is closest to reality, i.e. like someone singing in front of you, but it's not recorded.
@giannismusic2694
@giannismusic2694 Жыл бұрын
@@Andersljungberg digital
@NickJacobsMusic
@NickJacobsMusic 2 ай бұрын
@@Andersljungberg the question is, do you want closest to reality or do you want most vibe?
@aloisraich9326
@aloisraich9326 3 жыл бұрын
How did all these music-professionals claim that you can not hear the difference between digital and analogue. I mean this here proofes that you can hear the difference. Weather you then want to use analogue or digital is a creative process, just like Mr Nelsons says here. Best channel on Mixing and Music anyway.
@jadedsean
@jadedsean 3 жыл бұрын
Man this is incredible insight, Marc is an absolute legend, I love how he breaks these tracks down. This track is right up my alley and absolute gold.Marc please make more of these videos. Your lessons are absolute gold dude.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Sean!
@dustinthiessen
@dustinthiessen 3 жыл бұрын
man alive... tape just feels like a big warm hug. absolutely it's the right call for this track. Kudos to Marc for being a great presenter as well! Thanks for this Warren, and Happy Christmas to you, your family, and the crew at PLAP!
@ForeverDownByLaw
@ForeverDownByLaw 3 жыл бұрын
The tape sounds so much warmer and fuller, just way more musical to my ear. Why did we get away from tape exactly? Seems tracking to tape and mixing in digital is a great combo.
@lovebirdsmusic
@lovebirdsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonk125 you can get a decent tape machine for less than half of that. and the technician things is bogus, just make sure you dont buy any crap. get the technician to set it up and align properly and you´re done. permanent audio heaven residency. of course this is sort of a luxury thing but once you listened to it you wont go back and ask yourself what you have been doing all those years before)
@33AndAThirdRPM
@33AndAThirdRPM Жыл бұрын
Money,... with the advent of digital recording technology in around the late 80's early 90's there was a push by new technology companies to persuade/convince the music industry and general public that the new digital format was far superior to the then existing vinyl and tape based formats. Of course all this, as it usually is, based on generating profits for those who are invested in the latest , "new thing". Sometimes it's legitimate and other times just the latest ' Snake Oil'. In the case of the digital revolution I think it is a little of both. Everyone chooses what they prefer but I personally think tape has the edge in terms of an overall feel of a recording and believe it will always be present to some degree. Definitely in my studio.
@RobertoBagioCo
@RobertoBagioCo 3 жыл бұрын
In Marc Daniel Nelson we trust. Keep bringing more content! 👍
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Robert!
@glowaves
@glowaves 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how much more musical, vibey, and glued-together the tape sounds. Thanks for demoing this..
@mattiasbernhardsson8625
@mattiasbernhardsson8625 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is exactly why I still miss recording in analog studios Im not crazy its still a huge difference in my ears.
@acimbobby
@acimbobby 3 жыл бұрын
Even through the youtube pipeline I can hear the difference. There is just that weight and saturation on the tape version. With a few plugins we can make the digital version sound actually more analogue. The Kazrog Tru Iron... transformer plug in would fix most of it in the digital domain when you get back into the DAW. Some people always prefer the tape sound. Thanks Marc excellent comparison. Also gets very interesting when you create a hybrid recording and they seem to interact with each other. Opens up a lot of discussion on the art of sound recording.
@greencloud80
@greencloud80 3 жыл бұрын
That tape sound gave me chills especially in the middle part. It scooped me back like a time machine to my childhood days. Thank you for this Marc.
@HackionSTx
@HackionSTx 3 жыл бұрын
Marc is so awesome and chill it must be a blast to work with him. Merry Christmas and nice weekend people.
@MOSMASTERING
@MOSMASTERING 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap.. I can hear the difference on my laptop speakers.
@elguitarTom
@elguitarTom 2 жыл бұрын
No you can't. I can barely hear any difference on my studio speakers. And I have been mixing and mastering for 20 years. You get fooled when you read the "tape" text on the video. If it had been a blind test you wouldn't know the difference.
@MOSMASTERING
@MOSMASTERING 2 жыл бұрын
@@elguitarTom No, I absolutely can. I would challenge that with a blind test easily. I have also been mixing and mastering for 20 years and have a diamond ear certification on sound gym.
@TheMaxKids
@TheMaxKids 2 жыл бұрын
@@MOSMASTERING ouch
@jarcau_vegan
@jarcau_vegan 2 жыл бұрын
You both could meet and have a coffee altogether while listening to the nuances in the formants of your words.
@gailgamer
@gailgamer 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear the difference on my Iphone For real. I’m at work, and i always want to learn more music stuff when i dont have to do much And just watching these videos on my phone, and i totally hear the difference
@tossedpenny
@tossedpenny 3 жыл бұрын
Both have their positives & negatives, but there's no denying tape is just more interesting and fun to work with. Man, the long hours and days on end I used to spend in the bedroom with my little Tascam studio recorder bouncing and layering tracks. Fond memories that bring a smile to my face. It's the simple things in life that offer the most reward.
@tsgodman4409
@tsgodman4409 3 жыл бұрын
Good days indeed
@kenntakac5034
@kenntakac5034 3 жыл бұрын
The TAPE!!!! I like that hiss a lot!! Great video!
@antcall6779
@antcall6779 3 жыл бұрын
As always thanks Marc! Your videos are amazing! Please keep making more and more content for us the world needs to know what you have to say. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@LongshanMusic
@LongshanMusic 3 жыл бұрын
"This isn't a mix, this is just tracks put together from the tracking session. . . " ☝️ It was at this point that I decided to sell all my gear and take up competitive cross-stiching. 😭 Dude's digital sounds warmer than my analog, lol.
@adam872
@adam872 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard that I just went, damn it already sounds great. It just goes to show you how well recorded source material doesn't require much done to it.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yes, that Marc is rather talented isn't he!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@adam872 that will help and also knowing what to listen for. A lot of the time people mix for the sake of mixing!
@jeandista
@jeandista 3 жыл бұрын
I believe there's some smart processing going on, you can clearly hear it. It could be even just a quick rough mix (of a truly excellent recording), but a simple recording won't sound anywhere close to this. The given multitracks are just the proof.
@marcdanielnelson317
@marcdanielnelson317 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeandista waaaa? Really? Other than me tracking this with a lot of hardware on the way in.. I don’t have any processing on the session other than some balancing of the mix. Not sure what mutlitracks you got. 🙃
@sgfdancecompany
@sgfdancecompany 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, Marc so much for this great inside. I will be having fun after Christmas with your multi-tracks. Warren you are one of a kind!!!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas!! Marc Rules!!
@dennisgrammusic3414
@dennisgrammusic3414 3 жыл бұрын
Tape is a nice warm sound, incomparable. Great explains great video🎙💫
@noiseinthebasement8139
@noiseinthebasement8139 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, and thanks so much for the multi-tracks, MDN! Merry Christmas, Warren & Marc!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure! Thanks ever so much
@adrianl5899
@adrianl5899 3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas, Warren, Eric, Marc and everyone in the community! All the best for 2021.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much! Happy Christmas to you too!
@mixxndj
@mixxndj 3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely hear the fullness and warmth of the tape. Great job on the video!
@eravesi2536
@eravesi2536 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most amazing sample of this digital-analog discussion. Close your eyes and you can feel the kick moving the air against your leg in analog recording. Feeling blessed to record in all analog with our local Astia Studio in Finland.
@thomastaylor6102
@thomastaylor6102 3 жыл бұрын
The tape sounds magical, smooth and comforting. You can certainly hear the digital ride “ping” a little more and it does sound good, no doubt. Comparatively, the analog ride sounds beautiful, perfect just right. I really love the way you married the live analog rhythm with the digital over dubs, I’ve never heard of anyone doing that before which may just mean the rock I’ve been living under is a little bigger than I thought. Trying to explain the difference between tape and digital to people without using food or wine analogies is difficult at best and hopeless when their eyes proclaim that their mind has left to take a table at their favourite restaurant. Thanks, not only for addressing the topic but for how you addressed it. It was the most effective way to identify the difference between the two. For me the most impressive thing about the video was the recording process you used. The way you got the analog to hug the digital without sacrificing any digital dynamic freedom really was special. Your mix captured the songs personality, The vocalists tone, phrasing and articulation checked all the boxes of shit hot for me and that song deserved all the talent and hard work that brought it to life. Everything about this video blew my shit hot meter to bits. Bravo sir, a tip of the proverbial hat to you, the composers and the musicians involved.
@elguitarTom
@elguitarTom 2 жыл бұрын
Barely no difference at all. I am listening through studio speakers. If this was a blind test you would just had to guess.
@nickaleo7
@nickaleo7 3 жыл бұрын
One difference I noticed between the digital and tape was that the analog brings out a certain girth and inflates the bass in such a smooth and silky way. The digital almost seems like there is no blending and everything is very separate and precise, unlike the tape where it sounds beautifully blended and very sweet and delicious sounding. It's almost as though the two have different flavors and are a completely different recipe.
@donnydarko7624
@donnydarko7624 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there's a slight smearing between frequencies that I could definitely see how it could be overdone. Proper compression should be subtle. Too much just muddys the high end. And analog overdrive and distortion sound good and soft where digital is sharp
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 9 ай бұрын
The blending itself **is** precise in digital, and largely a matter of routine maths. Not that it's always/ever perfect... - With tape the non-linearities (i.e. imprecise fidelity in the circuit and/or recording instead of a 1:1 reproduction of the input signal at the circuit's output) are what can make it sound "nicer" in the sweet-spot of saturation. It slews or 'smears' the signal while also potentially 'cooking' it with more saturation/harmonics. This can reduce ear-fatigue and sound subjectively "smoother", "warmer", or whatever adjective you care to wax about. Non-linearities in a digital system may be a result of rounding errors, a bug in the driver code, user error leading to digital clipping, errors in circuit design that can produce noise or EM interference and/or cross-talk at the conversion stage, etc. _far from perfect, if still potentially much more linear than tape_ - Softer transients and a gluing of the mids is typical with tape. Some formula+recorder combos may sound better than others. - Digital is like a lens that is creating a sharply-focused picture throughout vs. tape being somewhat closer to how our eyes see - i.e. when we look we like to focus on detail while blurring what is surrounding the subject of interest.
@mattevans1427
@mattevans1427 3 жыл бұрын
The Tape sounds so so good!
@noubend8368
@noubend8368 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for multitrack and human explanation of difference digital versus tape recording...
@cabuffal0
@cabuffal0 3 жыл бұрын
love to see more and more Marc's video, thanks and Merry Xmas, Warren and Marc.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@cabuffal0
@cabuffal0 3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro This is just awesome. Can't help waiting for it. :)
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@cabuffal0 Thanks ever so much! Happy Christmas!
@MixedByDotRob
@MixedByDotRob 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing the tracks! The tape version has a soul. The digital version just is a capture. I recently started using my old PR-99 tape machine again as a hardware plug-in to the DAW. Adds instant magic!
@busywl69
@busywl69 3 жыл бұрын
Normal folks just hear the song. Producers n engineers.....this is the stuff we obsess over! Nice vid.
@petesawchuk
@petesawchuk 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Christmas Eve present, Marc; perfect examples, great comparison, outstanding track. Wishing you & yours happy, safe holidays!
@grahamtaylor6883
@grahamtaylor6883 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent example. The tape does half the work for you. When you hear it, it sounds much more together and complete. The digital makes you want to start tampering with things to get to that point. It's sounds more unfinished.
@luckystrke
@luckystrke 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I was thinking the same thing
@dighawaii1
@dighawaii1 3 жыл бұрын
Tape is a crutch.
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@reymhd7655
@reymhd7655 3 жыл бұрын
@@dighawaii1 bro, it’s pretty difficult to record to tape, (you said it was silly yourself to go through the hassle in another comment) if anything digital plug-ins are a crutch lmao
@dighawaii1
@dighawaii1 3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Helix I'm very aware. Many of the great recordings I love were also recorded to ADAT and hard drive. Some were recorded to digital, then printed to tape, then re-recorded into digital. For me, in 2020, tape recording is the ultimate nod to times past. However, it's akin to driving a Model-T on an 800 mile road trip to grandpa's. Fun, but not required.
@leegoodwin2540
@leegoodwin2540 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this is just awesome. Love the song and can't wait to start mixing it. I've been wanting to see a blues based track for a while now!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!
@MelloCello7
@MelloCello7 3 жыл бұрын
Huge difference, thank you for taking the time to share this
@Johnscompany
@Johnscompany 3 жыл бұрын
That tape sound its so warm.. love it
@PhilbertQAverage
@PhilbertQAverage 3 жыл бұрын
Being your average millenial hobbyist home recorder, I have always recorded digitally. The convenience of digital is amazing, and there really is no way I could have an analogue setup of equivalent quality in my two bedroom apartment, However, I am a fan of old analogue sound and therefore use techniques and plugins to escape what I perceive as the sharpness of digital recording. This video highlights one aspect of digital I dislike, and have heard many people talk about before: in digital the tracks often sound "seperate" as opposed to as a glued together track. More like a song and less like 15 tracks. The tape in this example just sounds more musical and pleasant and less fatiguing to the ear to me. You can of course do processing in the box to approximate the tape sound, but goddamn, if I had the space and opportunity I would get an analogue setup!
@TheChadPad
@TheChadPad 3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend saving up for a 4 track tape machine, like an old Teac 3340s or an Akai. Lots of good brands, just get a good one! Tascam as well, they bought out Teac back in the day
@chriscorral6365
@chriscorral6365 3 жыл бұрын
Oh this is great! (Haven't gotten through the whole thing, but just an honest comparison is very much appreciated!)
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Chris!!
@magibatalla
@magibatalla 3 жыл бұрын
These videos Mr. Nelson is releasing are the best content out there for more seasoned mixers. Finally something beyond basic gear operation skills and tips&tricks nonsense, with deep insights about aesthetics and atention to detail. His stuff has made me enjoy mixing like a kid again. Thanks so much and keep on with this approach! Regarding this one, I'm definitelly a digital guy :) I love some hiss and saturation, but the whole pack is overwhelming for my taste. I'm glad we have the choice to use it exactly where we want and as much as we want nowadays.
@marksextonmarkeaux4181
@marksextonmarkeaux4181 3 жыл бұрын
Once again such a great presentation! fantastic teaching tool for this subject. Thank you Marc and Warren!
@TheFeelButton
@TheFeelButton 3 жыл бұрын
As a performer I never care what the producer uses and as a producer I only use what I have on hand. Merry Christmas Warren!
@marcdavies6973
@marcdavies6973 3 жыл бұрын
Love Marc’s videos, and not just because he was named after me.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Haha Thanks ever so much
@paulgonzalez656
@paulgonzalez656 3 жыл бұрын
Marc! I've learned so much from your videos! Keep them coming!
@thebsidestudiony
@thebsidestudiony 3 жыл бұрын
love this. perfect choice for showing the feel differences. both sound great. I do like the extra warmth, and creamy as you put, is a great description, of the analogue. . thanks for sharing.
@samselband602
@samselband602 3 жыл бұрын
Sick! I’m gonna download em and see how my tape plugins stack up!! Ahhh, such a great Christmas present. Thank you
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!!
@mattzere78
@mattzere78 3 жыл бұрын
would you mind giving me feedback here as to how that panned out?
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattzere78 no pun intended?
@samselband602
@samselband602 3 жыл бұрын
@@philburns5656 @MattDaw Man, that was fun. So I loaded up the tracks and the plugins I shot out were the UAD Studer, Acustica Tuape and Softube Tape. I have some others that I didn’t shoot out because they are not really subtle i.e. UAD Oxide (adds a huge low mid bump) and Waves. So I put the plugins on every channel and tried as many different settings as possible. With the UAD Studer, to me the best sounding setting in comparison to the real tape was 15ips (and driving the input a bit) and 456 or 250 tape type. In comparison I really could not get it to do the same thing as the real tape. In every setting it added a low mid thing that was unnatural and the real tape sounded much more open in a/b’ing. As well as Better sounding saturation (to me) on the high end. Which is annoying because Ive used the studer on most mixes I’ve done the last couple years haha. Acustica Tuape, I tried using their MCI multi track first (not sure if the model is in the ballpark of the real machine in the samples) it sounded like absolute shit in comparison. Nothing notable, just all of the things I didn’t like about the UAD except way worse. So I started trying a bunch of the other settings that I like the best from prior shootouts and nothing was as good....or maybe the right thing to say is nothing sounded like the real thing. But my favorite setting from Tuape is C6. Can’t remember what kind of tape that’s emulating. But that setting totally hangs...I maybe even liked it better than the real thing, other than it shifted the left side of the stereo image a tiny bit louder or shifted the phase or something. I put a trim -0.2 dB on the left side and yeah it sounds great. So that’s encouraging. Buuuut Acustica destroys my CPU. Freezing stuff all the time annoys me. Hoping the new M1 chips will help haha. Softube Tape...nah Thanks @ProduceLikeAPro suuuuper fun!!
@samselband602
@samselband602 3 жыл бұрын
@@philburns5656 sick! I’ll have to mess with B9 again. Studer was ok but not really close to the real tape. Everything was tracked so nice though...it’d be hard to make it sound bad haha
@sinematrix
@sinematrix 3 жыл бұрын
On tape, sounds more shimmer, at 8:15, "let me down", the cymbal is dark on digital, but at 8:41, that cymbal more brighten and open and sustain on tape, this is huge.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Marvellous! Please feel free to download the tracks and listen in your own environment! producelikeapro.com/marc-daniel-nelson-analog-vs-digital/
@sinematrix
@sinematrix 3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Thanks Marc, already downloading, and thanks for this very professional content.
@RonnieVaiArovo
@RonnieVaiArovo 3 жыл бұрын
Well spotted, that's quite a bigg difference in brilliance!
@RonnieVaiArovo
@RonnieVaiArovo 3 жыл бұрын
@@sinematrix His name is Warren, not Marc, don't disrespect Master Warren please
@sinematrix
@sinematrix 3 жыл бұрын
@@RonnieVaiArovo OK, I'm sorry, I know this is Warren's channel I am watch almost daily, but I thought this episode is made from Marc and the reply was from him. My mistake!
@jurgenschuler8389
@jurgenschuler8389 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! A back-to-back comparison I always wanted to do, but never had access to. Thank you so much! Merry Christmas!
@expansivegymnast1020
@expansivegymnast1020 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Thank you for showing us this.
@fibboobbif
@fibboobbif 3 жыл бұрын
About nearly 30y ago, i had an analogue recording studio with both digital (Tascam DA30 and Panasonic DAT) and analogue Tape Machine (OTARI MX 5050 with butterfly heads, German AGFA hi flux tape, 15ips, Dolby SR)... I used to mix down my 24-track to both simultaneously, and after a while, i let customers compare the sound in A-B- swiching... of course blind without telling. They could not tell details, but they felt better with the analogue Dolby tape mix. Especially the younger producers felt "more punch" over all. After all those years i tend to say that Dolby SR Tape is sounding better than 16bit digital, but not state of the art 24bit when there is a lot dynamics. With modern pop music, i would say a good calibrated analogue machine with Dolby SR still may win the ears, hearts and bellys ;-) BTW: Most of my DAT recordings are broken now after so many years, so the tape mixes won the battle anyway... Even recordings from the 70s are just running flawless with that AGFA (and BASF) tapes... The Ampex, 3m and other japanese tapes are way more affected by moisture and bad storage, and have to be "roasted".
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 3 жыл бұрын
If it's not double blind, it's not conclusive. You could bias the listener unconsciously by simply knowing which is which.
@fibboobbif
@fibboobbif 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrunodeSouzaLino Yes i could. But first i let them switch by themselves (on an analogue board), and second, in this times many producers tended more to the digital recordings because of prejudice.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 3 жыл бұрын
@@fibboobbif It doesn't matter. There's a very good reason why scientific testing is double blind. You're just trying to sell your opinion without noticing under the guise of a test where people can decide which they prefer. You've already decided for them. If you prefer A over B and you know which is which, you'll steer people towards A, even if you couldn't tell A from B in a double blind test. Humans are very good at self deception.
@fibboobbif
@fibboobbif 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrunodeSouzaLino If you need a technocrat scientific test, go ahead and pay for it, or do it by yourself. But i have the right to tell my opinion and experience as long as there is free speech. Have a nice day,
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 3 жыл бұрын
@@fibboobbif You certainly have all the rights in the world to have your own opinions on anything. Your opinions are not facts, however.
@PapiCee
@PapiCee 3 жыл бұрын
The low end on the analog tape is definitely noticeable!! Reminds me more of radio
@frankmarsh1159
@frankmarsh1159 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the bass guitar particularly sounds fat. In the sixties and early seventies they were recording at 15 ips. Those records have really great bass guitar sounds. Warm and punchy. Drum sounds too. In the late seventies they switched to 30 ips and those records were missing some of that richness.
@joergalfter
@joergalfter 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a good example of what Tape does to transients and overall depth. An unmixed session like this shows it quite obvious. It also makes clear that proper recording makes most of the mix. Rough mixes should sound like this! Merry Christmas, guys!
@davidkeller8084
@davidkeller8084 3 жыл бұрын
Best example of the differences, and you are right, the tape glues everything together, further more, "this is not mixed" it is extremely well recorded.
@Bolle128
@Bolle128 3 жыл бұрын
I'm listening on low budget (studio) headphones that have a little bit of bump in the bass. When the tape recorded piano started playing, I was really moved by the warmth (excellent performance btw). The digital version sounded more like... a CD? A recording? Certainly sharper and less touching but also the kind of sound I am very much used to. I didn't expect such a difference. Really impressive stuff.
@Frank.Zimmermann
@Frank.Zimmermann 3 жыл бұрын
Merry/Happy Christmas to all of you, and happy holidays! 🎅🙌
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas!!
@timbecker6873
@timbecker6873 3 жыл бұрын
the wonderful thing is, because of the quality of the tracks in digital and tape i now can make further comparisons with my tape emulations IK tapecollection and taupe from acustica. thanks!!!
@nolenfoxx8109
@nolenfoxx8109 2 жыл бұрын
Invaluable video man! The digital sounds great, but the tape feels great. This is one of the final pieces of content I needed to make my decision firm. Keep it up!
@garyroberts1843
@garyroberts1843 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy Marc's contributions. When I pulled all the tracks up in Pro Tools it only took a few minutes to get a really nice, balanced mix. Sign of a 1st class tracking session methinks!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary! Agreed! Thanks for sharing!
@streetaware
@streetaware 3 жыл бұрын
A big plus for Digital is that all musicians no matter how rich are now able to record and mix their own projects without paying the price of analog multitrack studio time. Multitrack tape is very expensive. Multitrack tape machine maintenace costs are sky high. That is if you can find an engineer with experience to work on them. I have a 16 track Studer A80 which sits in the corner because it is far cheaper to use a DAW.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 100% agreed! This is just a test to show the characteristic differences! Many thanks
@acimbobby
@acimbobby 3 жыл бұрын
Marc has given us a first class demonstration. And it really will help anyone on the Produce Like A Pro channel to see and hear the real differences. It's all here, looking into the magical mystery tour of sound.
@LosFicosMusic
@LosFicosMusic 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING WORK MY BROTHER!!! 2022 NEEDS THIS.
@moodiblues2
@moodiblues2 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely hear the difference and discovered it in my own recordings. Using a DAW, the sound was sharp and brittle. Using analogue there was a depth and smoothness that I prefer.
@antiHUMANDesigns
@antiHUMANDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
I think it did great things for the piano, specifically. Made it sound more lively and not so tinny.
@martinolssonbass
@martinolssonbass 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Became alive.
@bigdrums9905
@bigdrums9905 3 жыл бұрын
Such an excellent comparison - really well done, thanks so much
@danielebazzani
@danielebazzani 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys, Marc is one of the best on the web doing this! It reminds me of when I fixed my turntable after 10 years and listening to the Allmann Brothers' "Jessica" I was jumping around as a fool.
@russellrivera1
@russellrivera1 3 жыл бұрын
The tape definitely has more weight and body. It sounds amazing.
@tepetti
@tepetti 3 жыл бұрын
Both sound great. For bluesy context the tape works nicely but on some other application the clearer digital version might be the right one. Technically the digital one sounds better, less hiss and distortion, clearer high end. It comes down to application and taste.
@nikolaikitanov9996
@nikolaikitanov9996 Жыл бұрын
Amazing comparison between analog and digital sound!! A kind of hearing tutorial! Thank you, Daniel!!!
@DPSharky1
@DPSharky1 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Bass in the tape tracks, it has more depth to my ears. Great Tracks Marc and Warren, Thanks a Ton!!
@DjTumbao
@DjTumbao 3 жыл бұрын
wow what a great video , really good examples and awesome to have the opportunity to hear this project
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much!
@DjTumbao
@DjTumbao 3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro I was exited that I forgot to say thank you 🙏🏽 sorry . Thank you guys what a great gift 🙏🏽
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much! I’m so glad to be able to help
@Joey-rp5vg
@Joey-rp5vg 3 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff Marc, keep them coming
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Marc Rules
@Joey-rp5vg
@Joey-rp5vg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Your right there, your good self and Matt included
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Joey!!
@erickpalmer5051
@erickpalmer5051 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! I love this series! Thank you!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks ever so much
@TheDude1764
@TheDude1764 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. That’s…shocking! To hear the A-B between the two formats…it eliminates any debate on ‘whether or not there’s a difference’. Like someone else commented below-the fact that this is merely a SESSION PLAYBACK and NOT A MIX is overwhelming in regards to the talent in recording. Thanks ever so much for the gift of these multi tracks to study. I’m still struggling to pick my jaw up off the floor…
@Gregorovitch144
@Gregorovitch144 3 жыл бұрын
TBH the rhythm track of this could easily have come off Sticky Fingers or Exile and that analogue vibe, rolled off top and bottom, accentuated mids for piano and guitar, bit of tape saturation makes it sound that much more authentic, like was it actually recorded in '71.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a wonderful compliment!
@williamdewolfe1813
@williamdewolfe1813 3 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed using 4trk tape machines, still do. Magnetic tape compression is very pleasant to my ears...especially fantastic on drum kits and for synths/electronics. However, DAWs have come a long way...I remember when DAT was all the rage.
@jorrickthole6505
@jorrickthole6505 3 жыл бұрын
Great video !!! Amazing to hear the differences in sonic coherence/separation, and dynamics. Thanks for a very informative video. Love to see more A-B comparisons like this.
@srTraseroRojo
@srTraseroRojo 3 жыл бұрын
great vid as always, I really like the pedagogy by Marc. thank you!
@steveg219
@steveg219 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison- thanks
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Steve!
@steveg219
@steveg219 3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro this was a particularly good example which so clearly demonstrated the difference. Really love the effect of the rhythm section on tape and overdubs digital, clearly a best of both worlds situation- the gluey fullness of tape with the clarity of digital with the foreground parts- Marvelous!!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveg219 Thanks ever so much!
@commontimeproductions
@commontimeproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Both sound great in my opinion, I would be interested in hearing the differences between the tape recorded tracks and then the digital tracks with a tape emulator vst and see the differences there. Like the J37 or similar. This also gives me some great ideas for triggering the tape effect in a song because I really liked how defined the part with all the gospel singers was, but with the tape I liked the other parts of the song better glued. Would triggering a tape emulator at different times in a song create a cool effect or would it make the song too dynamic and not sound right when it was not triggered. Definitely an experiment I am going to try with these multi-tracks. Thanks for this Warren! A topic that seems to be quite hot right now amongst our musician and recording friends :)
@petesawchuk
@petesawchuk 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mary & Sam, When you consider that GOOD VIBRATIONS is sections from 3 different studios spliced together, I'd think your triggering idea would have every chance of well.
@briankingart
@briankingart 3 жыл бұрын
Great one! Thank you! Sir Warren, Merry Christmas! To all...
@michaeltablet8577
@michaeltablet8577 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the good old day. Only had one but it was really good. I love both. I think the mixture of both is amazing! It does seem like the tape is hugging the vocals! Great analogy!
@sskopintsev
@sskopintsev 3 жыл бұрын
These raw tracks sound better than my mixes. I wonder if I even learn how to track like this. [desperately crying]
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 3 жыл бұрын
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODYYY !!! 🎅🎄⭐️
@kedavis
@kedavis 3 жыл бұрын
The transients with the snare slaps me in the face... and I like it!!
@brownsfan7753
@brownsfan7753 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this!! Thanks for doing this!!
@eravesi2536
@eravesi2536 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! This is the reason why our band records, mixes and masters these days only on full analog signal path and tape. It just makes us sound better and the workflow is just so much more straight forward and faster wirhout the possibility to start the endless tinkering and editing.
@SirDolittle
@SirDolittle 3 жыл бұрын
Not to forget, that when you release on Vinyl, the audio stays fully analog without any ADDA conversion.
@TheMentalblockrock
@TheMentalblockrock 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirDolittle I think thats the key, as long as the stamping master was cut on a lathe from an analogue tape without any digital delay lines! That's why I particularly enjoy listening to vinyl records from 1979 or earlier - you know the audio has never been turned into 0's and 1's at any point and then converted back into an analogue wave.
@SirDolittle
@SirDolittle 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentalblockrock I understand and share the same passion. One of the best records I have is an original Vinyl printing of Pink Floyd’s the Wall. The sound quality is spectacular and the level of detail is amazing. All the fine nuances, the room ambience, the material of the Drum body and felt, the Guitar strings and body and all those things that make a recording whole and true to life and I find always missing in digital recordings are there. I don’t care what the current narrative is but the magic of analog doesn’t lie in harmonic distortion or saturation, for me it is that it captures and/or preserved the things between the lines, the stuff that isn’t obvious but makes a recording feel true to life not just sound like it is. Just like in this video, the digital stems sound flat and lifeless even though a hi res version of lifeless. When listening to the vocals with the analog rhythm section in the background it is even more obvious, how flat and plastic the vocal recordings sound. The resonance characteristics of the chest, the softening of the sound by the skin on the lips and the reflected sound from the face are missing completely. The Full digital Version draws my attention to the lackluster sound and makes the song uninteresting and unengaging, as if my brain was like „so you thought you could fool me with this? Ha, booorriing!“
@TheMentalblockrock
@TheMentalblockrock 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirDolittle To me, analogue has the sound of "air" about it, the sound of the air from the vocalists throat, lips and gravelly growl from the voice box the air from 12" celestion speakers in the 4x12 guitar cabs and the whoomph of air captured from the bass drum (AKG D12 etc) and ALSO the "air" sound of the room, the acoustic space the music was captured in. one of my favourite records for this is Highway to Hell by AC/DC which I bought in 1979. Possiby like the Wall, 1979 of thereabouts is the pinnacle of pure analogue recording when the tape, desks, effects mics were all the best they ever would be with highly skilled sound engineers and prducers such as Mutt Lange or Bob Ezrin to achieve the ultimate in pura analogue sound quality!
@TheMentalblockrock
@TheMentalblockrock 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirDolittle By the way- a lot of people who have not heard the end product of a great analogue chain would disagree, but it's something that once heard you cannot "un-hear".
@eds6889
@eds6889 3 жыл бұрын
The snare sounds much better on the tape version. Although I think one could get that exact sound in a digital recording. As far as hiss of a tape goes; it creates a noise floor. Its like distortion on a guitar. Fills the sound and hides the flaws.
@johnclark1925
@johnclark1925 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for sharing
@vassilispapadimitriou9016
@vassilispapadimitriou9016 3 жыл бұрын
Best example ever. This channel always had GREAT videos, but, I just subscribed
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subbing!!
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