Analyst Report: 'Time to Focus on KATSEYE Over NewJeans' | 애널리스트 리포트: '멀리서 보면 희극' '장전 완료'

[@HYBEBOY613]

Timestamps: 00:00 인트로 2:35 "뉴진스에 가려진 KATSEYE에 집중할 시점" (유안타증권) 14:00 "멀리서 보면 희극" (유진투자증권) 17:52 "장전 완료" (메리츠증권) 28:14 English 31:16 "Time to Focus on KATSEYE Over NewJeans" 38:42: "A Comedy from Afar" 44:30 "Locked and Loaded"

[@Kim9VT]

민주당 전 원내대표 박홍근 의원 선임비서관 장형우 ~ 민희진에게 녹음 파일 받았던 바로 그 서울신문 기자입니다 다음주 부터 장형우는 민주당으로 출근 합니다 😑 박홍근 의원은 카카오모빌리티 사업 확장을 위한 법안을 만든 민주당 국회의원 입니다 박홍근 4선 원내대표 였기 때문에 민희진 민주당 협작은 또 있을 것 같습니다 뉴진스 버니즈 제3자 고발 변호사 민주당 보좌관 입니다

[@rosebooysen1693]

Facts it's a comedy from afar😭 it's like watching a woman and minions get mad cause a rookie group is successful

[@notperfectbutstillbeautifu2077]

*a witch

[@MikiBorahae]

Yes, let's focus on the success of worthy groups. The more we stream good content, the better it will get. 💜

[@혀주니-t5r]

민주당의 카카오 민희진 커넥션도 누가 밝혀주시면 좋겠습니다, 진짜 나쁜 사람들입니다,

[@KsenijaHajdu-x3g]

Dokler bodo taki ljudje vodili državo, to ne bo nikoli razkrito. Še več umazanije bo!

[@leeyj73]

굥명신과 하이브의 더티 커넥션도 밝혀질 겁니다. 진짜 짜치고 무능하고 멍청한 사람들입니다.

[@gwisooklee8587]

하이브 상장때부터 주주입니다 이런 콘텐츠 반갑고 너무 좋습니다 감사해요 HB님!!!

[@LeMn680]

실제 주주가 여깄었네ㅠㅜ 불쌍해서 어쩌죠

[@Kim9VT]

민주당 전 원내대표 박홍근 의원 선임비서관 장형우 ~ 민희진에게 녹음 파일 받았던 바로 그 서울신문 기자입니다 다음주 부터 장형우는 민주당으로 출근 합니다 😑 박홍근 의원은 카카오모빌리티 사업 확장을 위한 법안을 만든 민주당 국회의원 입니다 박홍근 4선 원내대표 였기 때문에 민희진 민주당 협작은 또 있을 것 같습니다 뉴진스 버니즈 제3자 고발 변호사도 민주당 보좌관 입니다

[@mjk999]

완전 미친것들이네요..민주당.. 지켜보겠습니다

[@회색사신]

어떻게든 ㅋㅋㅇ와 연관되는군요;;

[@ENHA_illies]

커넥션 끝내주네요.. 얼마나 오랫동안 준비해온 건지...

[@yanghoonkim-w1u]

텐센트-카카오-sm-민주당-민희진 모두 연관이 있는듯 합니다

[@눈꽃-x7y]

너무투명하네요

[@whoiame-u5j]

민천지 교도들 기사나 하이브망하길 원하는 질투심에 눈먼기사들 차단해놓으니....세상 속편하고 정신건강에 아~주 좋네요. 이쁘고 아름답고 신나고 즐거운 기사들 그리고 이런 팩트에 기반한 시원한 영상을 아밀과 함께 보며 덕질하는 행복한 삶을 살고싶네요. 이분 영상 떡상하셔야되요!!!!

[@destineespoetry]

Love the review as usual, also so cool TXT is going to have 'younger' siblings

[@UsuiTakumi-ff9rc]

Katseye is so underrated I love those girls

[@xcv-w9z]

앞으로 한국 국가 행사는 하지 말자 지구 스타 우주 스타 BTS 우리 BTS 인정하고 아껴주는 월드 공연만 하자 힘들게 한국 행사 하지 말고 돈도 많이 주는 월드 행사만 하자~~

[@1234csw]

하입 보이님 채널은 많은 정보가 있어,빼놓지 않고 들어요❤❤

[@KsenijaHajdu-x3g]

Vedno ga poslušam in nisem razočarana. Love from Slovenija! ❤

[@nicoleloss7987]

Looking forward to hybe labels japan new boy group 24 Kuma. And bighit new boy group.

[@yoonsehyeon]

Yes

[@sheilaankrah9440]

Thanks hybe boy for being our sanity in the middle of this chaos in South Korea, ur report on hybe business performance is the most important now cos the rest right now is just noise hybe is really killed it financially its goid to give us this perspective so we know hybe is ok financial rather than the noise k media is making right now 💜💜💜

[@crisc1107]

38:35 I think Katseyes has a lot of potential. The only thing they need is a song that can catch everyone's attention.

[@Sherluck93]

What they need is consistency and perform a lot. People were not happy with some of their performances, like Wishbus. Not a big deal, but a 'hit' with a lot of pressure attached won't help them much if they can't endure it. They are under alot of pressure already! I think they need to have fun and enjoy the journey, loosen up, and get to know their fans and each other. A big breakthrough too early is dangerous, unless they surprise us and could handle it as rookies and know exactly what they're doing. Unlikely though, but some can. It's possible. But I wouldn't put this on them yet and just ask them to deal with it. They should explore and play more, develop a solid foundation.

[@hbrant]

​@@Sherluck93I always say shortcut success is shortlived. Organic growth is eternal. What we have seen with 4th gen groups like aespa, IVE and NewJeans they blew up too quick and took a shortcut. IVE has maintained the album sales of fans in Korea and Japan, but their success on the charts has diminished. NewJeans maintained in South Korea. aespa is also mainly Korean market because the bot farms in China and Thailand bring them up on Spotify. As for bot farm in China it also helps them on Melon. Le Sserafim is a better sign of a worldwide group. They are getting there. ILLIT on the other hand is a rookie group so they are going to grow slow because Magnetic was more luck. If the indications of Youngseo after Google removed her from former member it's going to help ILLIT tremendously when Youngseo was most voted by global audience among contestants on ru next. I think both Katseye and ILLIT need to focus on longer songs. Lay groundwork for your fandom takes time as we see with groups such as BIGBANG, BTS, TWICE, Stray Kids and (G)I-DLE who weren’t successful from the start. It's basically a marathon, not a sprint, in the end.

[@mo-music9077]

They have that with their debut song. But you can not satified everyone and that is oké.

[@crisc1107]

@mo-music9077 I think Debut and Touch are good songs, but not hit songs. If they have a hit catchy song that can resonate with the general public, then they will become huge. They need to make the general public their fans. I think right now, a lot of their fans came from KPOP fandom. The docu series on Netflix was good. It did help them gain a lot of fans, but I think still limited.

[@Sherluck93]

@@crisc1107 They have good chances to be played on American (and worldwide) radio. That will help them a lot and reach the GP also. With Katseye, I'm more worried that they become big too fast or at an inconvenient time. The best groups don't just explode and then burn out. Gotta be careful and have a good footing developed first. They need a lot of experiences. Rookies have about 2 years to establish their name. No need to rush yet.

[@Sherluck93]

👏 15th November 2pm KST Jin's HAPPY album release and Running Wild! 'Yes, baby!', indeed! It'll be so much good and happy vibes, we'll fly into 2025! 🥳 💜

[@Sherluck93]

Let's rest for a few days (unless something more happens!) and enjoy Jin's 'I'll be there'! TXt's cb 'Star Chapter - Sanctuary' is also coming up on 4th Nov., right? Also, do not drop Illit and LSF! MHJ is imploding, something could happen anytime, beside targeted attacks. Shields up, and support your artists and each other! Look after yourselves. 💜

[@자아서찰-h2z]

감사합니다. 건강 잘 챙기세요~~

[@nikkf9909]

There was second version of the JK movie that the audience could sing along to! It was kinda like a concert and was super neat to see

[@rosebooysen1693]

It's like they try to blame hype for every companies wrong doings

[@chesiresays]

I’ve actually seen multiple ppl blame hybe for seunghans situation

[@HailToTheMeep]

@@chesiresaysHOW 😳

[@esmeraldasoliano7073]

​@@chesiresays they will blame Hybe for everything ..those are antis with no brains

[@dishanarjinary2546]

​@@HailToTheMeep there is a rumour spreading that HYBE is the one who released Seunghan's pre debut pics

[@KsenijaHajdu-x3g]

Res je!

[@tatamelbavlogs5561]

This very obvious that politicians and some company has jealously of hybe company but you can see all the group are working hard and no group just waiting there unlike other companies

[@ArmantoAlex13]

New Jeans is getting their first realization that Hybe and Hybe’s profits don’t revolve around them!!!

[@오로라-n9b]

귀한 영상 만들어 주셔서 감사합니다!!

[@nicoleloss7987]

Kpop articles are just yellow journals

[@NamHar7n]

Love the quote about comedy and tragedy. Thanks for all your hard work 💜

[@muhandhisetyabudhi7231]

good music = good company

[@맨부커-n4h]

캣츠아이 엄청한 반향이 있을 겁니다. 가끔 빠지는 한명 빼고는 아주 곡도 멤버도 잘 뽑았습니다. 은채도 너무 잘해서 과연 하이브다 생각들었습니다.

[@Super_Chamchi]

What is wrong with the Korean government?? HYBE provides jobs to so many families , and they should understand the number of jobs lost without HYBE.

[@KsenijaHajdu-x3g]

Vlado prav nič ne skrbi za ljudi, ki bodo izgubili službo. Njihovi želodci so polni in imajo umazan denar!

[@ajiluna]

KOREAN politicians tend to look down on entertainment business and think they need to sponsor them for it to succeed. HYBE dared to be successful without their influences, will not bend to their will, hence attack them!!!! Entitled spoiled bunch.

[@bqanto]

@@KsenijaHajdu-x3g Esatto.

[@미소-c1g]

아일릿 노래 정말좋더라구요

[@potatoroomkaraoke7762]

Dont know but i really want to focus on txt...their music is soo good their vocals 😢😢😢 ..m an army still supporting txt

[@claudettBruVA]

It's nice to think that Hybe doesn't have all its bets in the country where it was born because many of its businesses that will be more profitable and less dramatic are abroad. Really remarkable, negatively for ALL of Korea, is the way politics interferes with business and puts its dirty tentacles in its way to dominate even the powerful.

[@bqanto]

In the 1960s in Italy, FIAT (Italian Automobile Factory Turin) was inherited by Gianni Agnelli, who had very strong ties to the ruling party. The result was a series of laws that favored road transport production, penalizing rail transport. This had huge repercussions (both positive and negative) on the lifestyle of Italians, which continue to this day. We live in a world where the powerful decide our future over our heads, based on things like bribes, gifts, connections, sexual favors. What we can decide is just to love the people around us, especially those who live in the same house.

[@claudettBruVA]

@@bqanto That is exactly what I am referring to. As a Mexican, I have lived and actually living in a very illustrative phenomenon: if (political) power and money come together, they can double even those who before this alliance could have been considered powerful. In this case, the lack of this type of connection between Hybe and the Korean assemblymen has allowed a farce to develop, which from my perspective, is clearly financed.

[@빗방울-n2y]

영상 감사합니다🌺🌼

[@kepopnuova]

I'm beyond glad to be able to focus on KATSEYE! They're all talented, working so hard! Like other Hybe artists too, which are massively I support. I do not see NJ is part of Hybe anymore, to be honest. None of them are feeling guilty at all of the damage they're creating 💔 in ruining others! 😒 I do not support bullying, therefore no more supporting NJ. KATSEYE fightiiiing 🎉🎉🎉❤❤

[@pamelamt8895]

Yes a comedy from afar for sure. Love these financial analysts reports…will listen again because the ones at the end are very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to keep us updated! Also glad to discover your channel can be supported by Patreon….😀

[@jedidar]

I didn't see the show on seventeen but my theater had their popcorn bucket and cup when I went to see JK, in southern California

[@rexalexmacedon]

it's still part of the ongoing negative PR campaign being waged by min heejin & her allies. (1) the first component covers min heejin herself making accusations, including attacking bang sihyuk and hybe girl groups that can be considered as competitors to newjeans. the idea was to make min heejin seem a bigger deal by putting her as an equal of bang sihyuk, but the bang sihyuk gambit failed. all the accusations against the hybe girl groups didn't work as well, because le sserafim became more successful abroad, and illit started to gain traction. a part of this first component is to low-key attack bts. they tried to bring back old issues against bts, but it didn't fly. but they found an opportunity with suga's "drunk parking" incident. however bts is just so big and so established, they didn't cause much damage. (2) the second component is using newjeans to attack hybe, with the connivance of the members and their parents. still a part of this component is to bring down other girl groups of hybe. but this approach is now getting some backlash. (3) so the third component is now to attack hybe directly, in the hopes that it will create an image of the evil conglomerate. it's interesting to note though that the korean government has given hybe chaebol status, recognized it as a generator of jobs, and given it special tax breaks. with min heejin & her allies having little or no chance of favorable support & outcomes in the judiciary & government offices, it seems they've opened a new front in the legislative branch, using friendly lawmakers under the guise of legislative audits. will min heejin & her allies succeed? what's becoming clear, though, is there's a big budget behind the ongoing negative PR campaign against hybe and its artists. after all, you have to hand out envelopes to traditional media practitioners, social media influencers, and politicians. is min heejin betting her entire mini-fortune, or is someone else bankrolling macoll consulting? 🤔

[@kat.3.3.3rivers9]

Thanks 🎉❤

[@nicoleloss7987]

Kpop fans love to spreading false information

[@야구경기2030]

감사합니다

[@josievann137]

Yes, I was hopeful Trainee A would have debut.

[@456eunice]

감사합니다 잘보고 있어요 ❤

[@alsosprachZarathustra-fi2pm]

Thanks for the video! Very interesting data in those articles.

[@ihniwiad]

not sure if the videos are still up but trainee A was VERY active on pre-debut across social media. They were so popular that I think before they fell apart (I think one of 2 of the members got burnt out and left?) they had like 1 million subs here on YT. They had recruited some members that were already popular in their own right ahead of time and they were multi-ethnicities. Like there was a very popular young breakdancer who was American/Japanese (but spoke mostly or only Japanese), I think a Thai singer or actor? They did things such as make their own MV in their dorm room, busking in LA, listen to current popular songs and recreate or create (I forget) TT dances They were very engaging, even though I'm not a stan I looked at their videos out of curiosity and could see their potential. I am sure the pressure of being a BH BG was intense especially since they were so exposed even during trainee days.

[@HailToTheMeep]

With all the dodgy stuff that came out with MHJ and the possible sabotage of her team towards Garam and GFriend, now I am wondering if she had a hand in the termination of Trainee A too. Especially now that we heard she was hoping to set up a boy group under Ador.

[@오디세이-f7y]

여기저기 좌표찍고 악플다는 최악의 ㄴㅈㅅ 팬덤입니다. 캣츠아이 화이팅

[@nana-eu6jv]

ㄴㅈㅅ팬들 어쩌다 저렇게까지 됐을까요.

[@MHM6081]

I know of A Trainee. I had been looking forward to them, because one kid was American and really good at dance. They did a few dance videos on KZbin and disappeared. Never knew why. Maybe their target audience is global which might be why you never heard of them.

[@Galadriel637]

Hi, regarding the Seventeen show, here is a cut/paste from a Disney annoucement from mid Sept : "Disney has announced that it will be releasing the “Seventeen Tour ‘Follow’ Again” concert film on Disney+ on Thursday 17th October 2024. The film follows the popular Korean band, “Seventeen”, which showcases the bands first Seoul World Cup Stadium concert and encore tour ... it captures the essence of Seventeen’s record-breaking nine-year legacy." It is 1h43mn long. The film was previously released in cinemas (not in my country).

[@victoriagonzaga6715]

Yes plz talk about traine A . There where seven members and they event to US for busking and had a lot of content then Leo left and everything disappeared. Leo is a soloist now under BI label Yorch is from Thailand and debuted and there’s another member that debuted in a group as well. I wonder if some of the members might be in the new boy group

[@patriciamezarina2496]

I’m really thinking James & Sangwon is still in HYBE. At least James is since he was last seen as a back up dancer for JK during his SK show promotion for ‘Seven’

[@thatkpopsis]

I really miss trainee A, they had so much potential. Jihoon debuted in TWS under Pledis also part of HYBE. I don’t think Sangwon is in HYBE anymore as he has an instagram and has been in Europe a lot. I think JJ is in SM now as he was seen leaving their building and seen going to their artists concerts with other trainees

[@aysenurg5609]

​@@thatkpopsisThai trainee, Yorch, debuted in another group called POW.

[@thatkpopsis]

@@aysenurg5609 yes I know thanks for sharing it I’m happy for him

[@SamJones01011]

Yes, 'I'm sure' you should watch the whole series! 😉

[@junerabin]

I was really looking forward to Trainee A. I wish they would come back ... but Leo I think left. 😢😢😢

[@ajiluna]

하이브가 망하면 뉴진스 또한 망한다는 걸 모르는게 한심한거고 미련한거죠. 결국 그들은 뉴진스 팬들이 아니에요. 팬일 수가 없어요. 하이브를 나가서 더 잘 될 수 있다고 믿으니까 저런다면... 할 말은 많지만... 내 손가락만 더러워질 것 같네요.

[@bqanto]

Aside from the fact that MHJ cares relatively little about the fate of the group, because her goal is to bring down Hybe, MHJ's plan is to recreate the group with a slightly different name under the SM Ent.

[@demonslayer4951]

I rather listen to Katseye than snake songs.

[@raeavilez9936]

I didn't get too deep into Trainee A, but I was checking out some of the vids. I don't know if others have already said, but there was an issue with one of the trainees. In a rap he used derogatory slang, I think. He apologized, but then it seemed he couldn't put it behind him. He was very angry. It seemed to throw off the whole group. I think other thinks happeded but that rap incident was the primary thing. I was so happy to see Jihoon debut with TWS. He was one of the youngest trainees in Trainee A. I think anyway. He seems to be very happy with TWS. That big beautiful smile of his is always flashing now. And he is extremely affectionate with the members, where he wasn't like that in Trainee A or that I remember. I did see that one of the other trainees from Trainee A was working as a back up dance. Some fans spotted him in JK music show performance. I'm pretty sure there are videos that have been made about the program. I wonder if any of those other trainees will show up in the new boy group. I didn't even know there was another group in the works for BH! That blue my mind.

[@ravenblog7]

Leo. His lyrics were misogynistic like beating a woman or something. I used to watch their videos and was excited.

[@ladywolf5192]

As an Army, we aren’t going fall for this nonsense, again….BTS ONLY FOR US…

[@nttm5901]

I have decided not to focus on new kpop groups anymore in my life. Everybody using BTS for growth. After popularity, they forget and refuse seniors. It is better staying only with BTS. But if good songs are released and get viral from other groups, I just enjoy that song, not group's other activity. There are far better English singers in western arena than kpop.

[@Imme_begin]

If I was guessing I would say the fan loyalty counts antis professing to be past ARMY into account. That is such an unprovable thing anyways. Hard to give it any credibility. They really should explain though how they came up with such arbitrary numbers.

[@charstar386]

Or ARMY being on hiatus with BTS maybe?

[@ravenblog7]

@@charstar386I’m on hiatus and not much engaged. Bcz I have exams until Dec. but I’m still supporting them by listening to their music.

[@charstar386]

I don’t experience BTS ARMY being of average loyalty. Not sure how Seventeen and &TEAM are higher. How is this determined? A lot of ARMY are on hiatus right now with BTS. Is that what this analyst is seeing?

[@toriahmyworld]

Probably, the percentage was based on the number of subscribers divide to #viewers(approx).

[@rexalexmacedon]

katseye is currently charting on billboard's global 200 chart. newjeans isn't.

[@milissadaniels2727]

New jeans is over

[@Babee76]

Trainee A is a pre debut boygroup rumoured to be BigHit next boy group which consist of 7 members. Yorch, Sangwon, Leo, Woochan, James, JJ & Jihoon. For a pre debut group, they gained a large number of followers. The members are all talented & were encouraged to write, produce their own songs as well as create their choreography. The group debut was cancelled & group was disbanded when Leo left the group due to mental stress as a result of the hate he received for some misogynist rap lyrics he wrote. Leo appeared in BTS PTD MV along side NJ Hanni & Minji. He has since debut solo under Hanbin 131 label. Yorch debuted as a member of POW. Jihoon is now a member of TWS. James was a back up dancer for JK during his Seven promotions so he might be still under BigHit. JJ is rumoured to be a trainee under SM. Not sure what Woochan & Sangwon is doing.

[@ArmantoAlex13]

If only the other members - Jimin - had a box office movie/documentary for their promos, instead of production videos on exclusive platforms inaccessible to many fans, including the ones who can’t afford the membership fees. He made TWO albums (RM too). The ‘behind the scenes’ of both of those in box office ‘movie’ would have yielded huge profits that seem to be engineered for specific members. Jimin has earned huge money for BH/Hybe…Imagine if the label had pushed his music more - made his hit single (physical) available to global fans etc. - imagine the additional profits he would have brought to the company. He said “I’ll make my own way” and what he says he delivers.

[@bqanto]

Jimin has released a half-hour behind-the-scenes video for both albums, available on the YT channel BANGTANTV.

[@ArmantoAlex13]

@@bqanto Yes, I’m aware of that…he also had the shitiest fan meet and great after FACE debut, no playlisting, and much more! It looked like it was put together by little kids…compare to the others’ members staging! They did the bare minimum for his 2 album promos. And they kept their thumb on him from very early on after their debut. Now we see in print - in their own words - that Hybe HAS been sabotaging Jimin all along and helping to instigate fans ganging up on us. There’s no excuse anymore for Army to pretend it isn’t true - gaslighting us, his solid, supportive fans.

[@bqanto]

​@@ArmantoAlex13 I am sorry you live in an alternate reality... No label boycotts its own artist by giving up a sure profit for no reason. Labels are companies and are run like companies, not like people with their own likes and dislikes. All that matters is commercial success. I know you will have a fanciful answer to this too... I wish you will change your attitude one day because the victim complex destroys families, real ones, not the BTS "family".

[@ArmantoAlex13]

@@bqanto You’re obviously not up to date on the latest news! Go get caught up and then you can speak.

[@UsuiTakumi-ff9rc]

nah I'm too fast

[@lealarsen2017]

is the blue numbers on loyalty collective scores maybe? or why is it highlighted? i was thinking if it is calculated togehter in point of how many album sales and concert tickets and streams. it make since now that bts dont have any concerts and only small album sales because they have not release any new album. svt has both and streams so that make sense they would be highest in loyalty now, but it is just a guess.

[@Sherluck93]

What's the timestamp?

[@nana-eu6jv]

캣츠아이 대박나자

[@hueningbahiyyih627]

The story of TraineeA is so sad. It’s a group of 7 talented boys revealed on a new channel in 2020 with Leo as the first trainee revealed and arguably the definite leader. They had social media accounts that grew to millions of followers and would upload videos of their training, evaluations and the company trainees showcase. During one of these showcases Leo rapped self written lyrics cussing and included the phrase “d!e b!tch” like how rappers normally diss rivals but antis took these words and blew it out of proportion. They said he hates women, labeled him a misogynist and harassed him to the point where he had a mental breakdown and left the company. Since Leo the main member left, the debut was cancelled and most of the members left Bighit.

[@mo-music9077]

Cancel antis and their culture

[@HailToTheMeep]

Interesting “misogyny” argument. Now I am wondering if certain forces have purposely fuel and sponsored “antis”?

[@sienna367]

I'm sorry. SK is a misogynistic country. We don't need trainees who casually throw around curse words just coz they're cool. Hybe would've definitely tried to provide classes to deviate that mindset from trainee but alas

[@bqanto]

@@sienna367 Bighit is a Hybe company.

[@НатальяМитряева-т6о]

Перевод пожалуйста 😢

[@alexlefay]

MHJ and NJ: doing everything they can and more to make Hybe look like hell on Earth, not even the devil would want to work there. Hybe: ok, time to focus on other GG, NJ are simply too much of a liability to full focus on them. MHJ and NJ: *surprised Pikachu face* how dare YOU!!! THE MISTREATMENT!

[@yesjj12]

하이브보이님 루나현 just got paid 안무랑 뉴진스 안무랑 비슷한 거 다뤄주심 안될까요

[@쿠루쿠루-o2v]

@@yesjj12 와ㅋㅋㅋ 방금 네ㅇ버에 루나현 뉴진스 검색해서 비교영상 보고왔는데 짜잘하게 따가긴 한 듯 하네요 ㅋㅋㅋ 여자친구 안무도 그대로 따가놓고ㅋㅋ 그 팬들은 또 원래 있는 기본 스텝이다~ 기본안무다~ 이러고 우길듯ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@carolinegarofalo1033]

I don't know about this story... Whats happened?

[@yesjj12]

​@@carolinegarofalo1033Check out 'just got paid' choreo by Luna Hyun(illit's choreographer) it's very similar to NJ

[@yesjj12]

​@@eunjinson4071 네 제 생각이 짧았네요

[@Hiddinnie]

I didn’t even know bighit was going to debut another group. I had thought about maybe they’d do it soon because txt debut in 2019 but I didn’t hear anything about it.

[@potatoroomkaraoke7762]

Not debuting..they r just opening audition for next bighit grp

[@monicababirima2065]

So, nothing was finalized from the court?

[@Sherluck93]

It's the National Assembly, not court. They have no jurisdiction. So, yes, no decision. What's even the question? It's a circus!

[@ravenblog7]

That assembly is just to embarrass hybe officials. They won’t decide anything. It’s just bunch of NJ old man fans playing in a circus

[@bqanto]

@@Sherluck93 I believe she was referring to the injunction filed by MHJ regarding her reinstatement as CEO, which was scheduled for judgment on October 25.

[@monicababirima2065]

@bqanto yes I was referring to the injunction filed by MHJ, which was scheduled for the OCT 25th regarding her reinstatement as the CEO. We are just tired of the same issue going on and on.

[@bqanto]

@@monicababirima2065 I don't know anything about this, but it is just crazy that they can't get rid of a disloyal employee. In any other country in the world she would have been fired on the spot.

[@lindaMinister]

What is Hybe going to do now with lawmakers attacking them too. They said slowly, everything will be revealed. I don't think they can dilly dally anymore? I pray that the judge votes their way, otherwise... how are they going to prove their innocence, their PR department is a mess. I just wish BTS' name is not dragged. Can Big Hit separate from Hybe or can Hybe just move to another country since Korea hate them so much?

[@midnight_blue6793]

I agree with everything you said to answer some of your questions. Hybe is a conglomerate, which means that they are company that have different other companies underneath them. Bighit/Bts are already separate from them, along with Source, Pledis, and Koz. I think Hybe needs to leave Korea and bring most of their major operations to the US. It's not just about their negative reputation. You can't please everyone, especially since there are still a lot of K-pop stans believing that mhj and newjeans are innocent. Kpop stans are going to believe what they want without doing further research and critical thinking. The best thing is for them to leave and on top of that Korea has this "crab in the barrel" mindset. They will single handedly destroy the one good thing they have coming for their country. They don't realize that if anything happens to hybe/bts, that is the entire K-pop industry since hybe is the one leading the industry as of recently.

[@HailToTheMeep]

@@midnight_blue6793The kpop industry will just return to how it was in 1990s and that’s what a lot of them want. They can be in the small bubble pretending they are kings and queens of a little world no one gives a cr*p about. That’s why they hate changes so much. No matter how good the changes look in the bigger picture.

[@HailToTheMeep]

How do we know they are dilly dallying? I think PR as we know it doesn’t exist in Korea. What they have it seems from what I have seen so far is a PR but in the style of a street fist fights.

[@midnight_blue6793]

@HailToTheMeep Yeah, i agree. This is why it feels like it's best for Hybe to move their operations to either the US or Japan. Where the market is much better, I know that Bts are gonna be nervous about since Rm felt that they will not fit in. However, I think it's better than dealing with this. In a nutshell, bang pd should give them what they want.

[@midnight_blue6793]

@@HailToTheMeep I forgot to add that it's already telling how the government has used Bts, so they should take the money that they were contributing to SK and leave with it. I don't think we should be rewarding disrespect. Also, the members shouldn't have to work so much as well.

[@indigohumans]

international kpop stans will never give hybe groups any grace, will never read deeper than a headline, will eat up every random rumour on incel forums for as long as these groups are still active. sorry to say.

[@ravenblog7]

I think you misplaced international with Korean. Most of international fans support hybe. Maybe you should go deeper than headlines as you lack basic understanding of what’s happening

[@indigohumans]

@ravenblog7 do you have your head buried in the sand? have you been on twitter in the last 6 months? theres asolutely no way on this earth you think international kpop fans support hybe

[@toriahmyworld]

​@@ravenblog7💯

[@Alice-sw9hf]

​@@indigohumans International fans always support Hybe

[@bqanto]

😂😂😂 When you understand exactly the opposite 😂

[@호두-e4i]

소속아티스트 23분56초 엔하이픈이 왜 없을까요?

[@charestriart]

Is hybe really not gpnna do something abt the data leaker?

[@ТатьянаНижельская-ч3л]

Дайте русские субтитры

[@lenkaprochazkova5129]

pleas???

[@CarolGarofalo-yz6od]

cadê as legendaaaaaaas?????

[@lexybaginsky]

there are none. But the second half of the video is in English.

[@HailToTheMeep]

So rude. Making demands. Ask KZbin. They are the one with Google translate and AI. Content creators have to sit for hours adding subtitles.

[@CarolGarofalo-yz6od]

@@HailToTheMeep nossos conceitos de ser rude são bastante diferentes. Uma simples pergunta não é uma exigência 🙄

[@CarolGarofalo-yz6od]

@@lexybaginsky eu vi também, é que meu inglês não é muito bom por isso sempre ligo as legendas pra ter certeza de que estou entendendo direito hehehehe Mas obrigada pela ajuda 🥰

[@bqanto]

@@HailToTheMeep Hybe Boy is no longer turning on subtitles on the latest videos, meaning he has not turned on automatic subtitles. Go check, the subtitle icon is gray.

[@nguyenthiphuonganh]

I just knew about New Jeans because on Tony Leung. I knew about katseye because of New Jeans. I’m definitely not a NJ fan. But I wonder that how come they picked those katseye girls from 120,000 contestants but their vocals and dance in their album are terrible 😞. Or maybe it’s because of the songs. I watched on an American tv show. Maybe because I have seen so many of Blackpink, Or maybe because they’re new. Hope they improve better in the future.

[@ravenblog7]

Katseye is better than Nj. Blackpink? Dont want be shitty but except Rose none of those BP girls know shit about music. Jennie to some extent but Lisa can’t even sing for godsake. I only knew NJ bcz they used bts name heavily in early days. Guess using popular group names will make then get attention?

[@toriahmyworld]

The funniest comment I've read today.....☕️ 😂😂😂😂😂

[@okakaaa96]

​@ravenblog7 we'd be lying to ourselves to say bp don't know shit about music while in the industry for yrs now. Sure they're not musically inclined like western artists are but you can't expect that when they have debuted as kpop idols in the start but that bit is a complete stretch unless you hate the group like shit for no reason.

[@okakaaa96]

Maybe you dont get how survival shows work? They're not just picked at one time from 120,000 contestants. You can't possibly say they can't sing when you don't even know the group well enough yet.

[@nguyenthiphuonganh]

@@okakaaa96 I didn’t have any prejudice against Katseye. It’s just happened that I watched them on an American TV show telling about they were picked from 120,000 contestants and I wasn’t impressed by their dance or vocals. They sure need time to improve, ILLIT have improved a lot. I like them now.

[@leeyj73]

아하.. 이게 2찍 콜렉터 채널이 되었구나.... ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ