Analyzing a Immortal Offlane and Support Player

[@CardCaptor32584]

Thanks for posting! Get to see ZQ's play from someone else's perspective.

[@yihongleong2514]

great informative content! Hope more ppl can notice this channel

[@5updota]

🤝

[@alexander.constatine]

ZQ is the man!

[@diogocarneiro]

Great format!

[@Icohen2006]

Great tips! Get well soon...

[@djpnda-ed1dh]

Can you do an 8k replay. It’s higher mmr but still feels nooby compared to pros or 9500+

[@b4sh936]

your mic is kinda low bro, i have everything at max volume and i can barely hear

[@oscartorralba14]

Same

[@aksent769]

u guys have some old headphones

[@JO-dc5pl]

How do we determine at that moment, whether to full pull, half pull or stack and pull? Like, what’s the question to ask ourselves before we decide on this action as the support?

[@5updota]

"can I leave my pos for 20 seconds without dying" "Where is the lane position" And overall just never full pull it's just going to put so much chaos into the lane that you might lose it ^^ Just pull 1-2-3 creeps and check what the enemy post 4 is doing, if he is running to you then Ur good but if the enemy's start going on your pos 1 you need to run back and help him.

[@DUSASDA]

Thanks for the video. Can I order a coaching session as an offlaner?

[@5updota]

Sure U can find the info here: www.patreon.com/5updota Or you add me on discord: 5updota

[@pcxxy]

Thx for video For the radiant team, if an opportunity arises, would stack-pull be a good thing to do?

[@5updota]

In my opinion no because it will create too much chaos for the lane. U can do these kind of stacks later on when the laning stage is over or your POS 1 hits a bit of jungle of something.

[@Gzmo9123]

Good point on the full pull! How do I consistently do a half pull though? Is there like a specific time to do the pull?

[@sillysam00]

You could possibly stack the small camp first and that will burn through more of your creeps, or you could also pull the large camp down when the small camp dies to pull your creeps further up.

[@b4sh936]

time your movements with the creep attacks, its better to be late than early for half pulls, worst case scenario u only pull the range creep. There isnt a perfect clock timing for this because it varies depending on the creep camp that spawned, just follow your gut. Can also practice it on lobby with -spawnneutrals and -spawncreeps

[@Gzmo9123]

Thanks for the suggestions, gentlemen! Will definitely lobby practice.

[@pcxxy]

Same I gotta practice this shit.

[@5updota]

At some point it is just a habit and there is a timing for each side but the problem is it depends on the creeps too. Just try it out and practice it ingame or in a lobby and after 30-50 times U will get a feeling for it without even thinking about it anymore

[@paw-y]

If you manage to stack the small camp? Would it be ok to make a full pull? To deny the wave.

[@5updota]

I would say no, because you're giving the enemy a chance to dive you and you might lose lane control. It can work but the risk of losing the lane after this move is way too high.

[@karmakarsoumyajit]

nice

[@aksent769]

is it good to full pull, when u stacked and can kill allie creeps in 10 sec? But in 2k mmr u can do what u like lol :D

[@5updota]

No it's not good, because the enemy's can dive you then and maybe even kill you or your safelaner ^^

[@aksent769]

@@5updota yea but if u pick a stronger pos 5 like bane or some meta? and ofc u are not loosing in gold n stuff?