Analyzing Evil: Jack Torrance and The Overlook Hotel from The Shining

[@meumnomen]

That very first scene with Danny and Wendy having lunch with a cigarette burning on the table next to their sandwiches is such pure 70's and 80's parenting.

[@goforbroke4428]

meum nomen I grew up with stuff like that an I was born in 01.

[@monsterislandtales5788]

@@goforbroke4428 where you born in 1901?

[@goforbroke4428]

@@monsterislandtales5788 nope.

[@monsterislandtales5788]

But you said you were born in 01?

[@goforbroke4428]

@@monsterislandtales5788 2001.

[@RB-vo4gi]

From the very beginning in the film, Jack felt manipulative, creepy, and frustrated/annoyed with his family. It didn’t feel like it took much for him to fall into the arms of the Outlook.

[@watching7721]

He's more a walking representation of whatever the hell Kubrick had in mind in the movie

[@margarethmichelina5146]

But then again, he's played by Jack Nicholson tho

[@mlpfanboy1701]

In the movie it did not. In the book he was more resilient.

[@Reprodestruxion]

Going cold turkey makes a mean person sometimes especially without therapy

[@Immolator772]

hence why i didn't like it that much. It was pretty predictable and cliché by today's standards but well i can see back in the day it was so good. It was something original and grounded even.

[@JMUDoc]

The book had a Jack driven insane by a haunted hotel. The film's Jack was clearly insane before he ever set foot in it.

[@SpicyTexan64]

Wrong

[@adamcuneo7189]

@JMUDoc, Even though he had anger issues and was an alcoholic, I wouldn't say that Jack went insane in the book, but instead the hotel possessed him rather. As with the film, Jack's sanity was fragile, and the hotel finally made him lose the rest of it.

[@Lol-ik8xm]

Also Jack was a little bit better of a guy in the book because he tried to fight back against the hotel and said goodbye to Danny but in the movie he was just a jerk

[@adamcuneo7189]

@@Lol-ik8xm, Agreed, like @The Vile Eye said, Jack in the book does have regret over his past actions, but he is guilty of giving in to his addiction, which led to the hotel getting control of him. I would also say that the hotel is psychic itself, because it seems to instantly know about Jack's addiction. The hotel is an opportunistic predator that uses the desires and past traumas of its victims to its advantage. After it has gained control of the person and made them kill the people they are vacationing with and themselves, it keeps their souls and has them forever partying in the ballroom, which may not sound like bad way to spend the afterlife, but when in reality it is actually a prison of all the people its killed, and a further representation that even the afterlife, they still think the hotel is fun and are unaware that the hotel has them imprisoned to itself, which is just my guess through my analyzation.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

Nope. The movie is about Stephen King writing The Shining. The horror is imagined. That's why Jack can be two different versions in one scene -- one where he is Stephen King, and the other is imagining himself as Jack in the story he's writing. Watch Nicholson's hands. You see him making typing motions with his hands when he's thinking of what comes next in the story. It happens a lot in the bathroom scene.

[@RPDhata]

I'd disagree that Jack seems amiable in the movie. From the beginning, his eyes seem dead, and you can see how hard he forces his smiles in the way his upper lip crinkles while he's talking to Ullman.

[@derroboter2895]

@Anonymus X Also note the drive to the hotel with his family, he seems like he's completely done with them and the smallest of conversation is an chore for him.

[@ofemwa]

he's a broken guy. this film is really about his insanity finally spilling all out. not just in little bits like before.

[@ofemwa]

jack was a victim really. weak man. that's why the overlook hotel prayed on him. he was the most broken, worn down person there. all it needed to do is pull the egg shell from the yoke, because he was already on his edge.

[@lisasmith767]

As if his wife and child were annoyances at best. He seems fairly pleasant to Ullman but of course this is forced,

[@censored1430]

25:45 He was trying to appear friendly and well spoken, the definition of amiable. No one said he was any good at it! Somebody didn't wait until the video was over before they commented..

[@Valdagast]

Jack Nicholson is an amazing, amazing actor. He should have gotten an Academy award for his role as Jack Torrence.

[@chriswilson3126]

Like the film in general, his performance only received the acclaim it deserved in the coming years.

[@leonazar]

@Garrison Nichols I’m afraid you’re 200% right! 😆

[@wingflanagan]

The irony is that the film, and Nicholson's performance, were not that well regarded when it was released. I'm old enough to have seen it first run in the theater (would you believe I was...um...-10 years old?). My own reaction at the time was "Meh". Looking back, I wonder how the hell we all missed it. It's one of the greatest films of all time. We're STILL talking about it 40 years later. And yes, Nicholson's performance is a landmark. Genius.

[@wingflanagan]

@Garrison Nichols Well, Vivian Kubrick’s documentary doesn’t do much to refute that!

[@WallKenshiro]

Damn straight. Everything about that masterpiece was criminally underappreciated. My favorite Kubrick film, and definitely one of the greatest films of all time.

[@ShinyAvalon]

The one thing no filmed version of The Shining has taken advantage of is the physical threat of Jack Torrance being *a big man* . He played football in school; it's implied in the book that he's built appropriately. When Danny sees the shadow in his visions coming down the hallway, it's described as a hulking monster. The physical threat of a large man to his wife and small child is present throughout the novel, and I think both adaptations have missed out on a seriously disturbing avenue of fear in not playing with that social and psychological dynamic of that.

[@robertbusek30]

We also don’t get any of his backstory except for his harming Danny. In the novel, Jack was fired from his teaching job for beating up a kid who was slashing his tires; he essentially “went blank” as he was doing it…

[@DrDolan2000]

Especially in the mini-series version Jack Nicholson isn't Tim Teebow, but I think his frame and height still work enough that if Danny saw his shadow, his fear might be close to the book Then we have Steven Webber who's built like a Twizzler (sorry, Steve)

[@ShinyAvalon]

@@DrDolan2000 - I always thought Nick Nolte would have been a better choice for Jack in the movie...but Kubrick apparently wanted someone creepy and smarmy instead. It's a brilliant movie on its own, but as an adaptation, it's pretty bad. I wouldn't have minded if it were a bad book (no one complains about _Who Framed Roger Rabbit_ because the original book apparently wasn't that great), but it was a good book that told a cohesive story about a family that was haunted before they ever reached the hotel.

[@SaraBanartist]

I'd argue the physical threat is that Nicholson's Jack could take his eyebrows off and beat someone to death with them.

[@DrDolan2000]

@@SaraBanartist I bet he could do that 🤣

[@masterofmythology]

"I'm sorry to differ with you sir, but YOU are the caretaker. You've always been the caretaker. I should know sir, I've always been here."

[@jerrygoodwin4077]

One of the most haunting lines in cinema.👍

[@horacederwent6246]

Even more haunting is the fact that while in the book, Grady merely says this to seduce Jack to the Hotel's side via brainwashing and deception, in Kubrick's loose adaption it was a literal truth. Just as Charles Grady was a reincarnation of the late former butler of the hotel in the 1920s, Delbert, Jack was a reincarnation of the Hotel's former groundskeeper in the 1920s and thirties.

[@castortroy7704]

In the book, Grady's ghost merely said this to Jack to further brainwash and manipulate/warp Jack's mind so that the Hotel could possess him. In Kubrick's film Delbert/Charles Grady is literally telling Jack the truth. Just as Charles Grady, the former Winter caretaker that went insane from cabin fever and the demonic possession of the Management, killed his family and committed suicide was a reincarnation of Delbert Grady, the butler of the Overlook Hotel in the 1920's, Jack was a reincarnation of a previous groundskeeper of the Overlook in the 1920's and thirties. Always reincarnated endlessly to commit murder and take their place under the Management, the demonic spirit that possessed the Overlook Hotel.

[@brc9739]

The sudden shift of dominance in that scene, from the bumbling hapless waiter, to the cold unblinking manifestation of the House’s evil intentions, is so well done

[@JinxMarie1985]

This was spoken by the man that also supposedly murd3r3d his family before Jack even came there. People think that he is a ghost. But he isnt. The hotel is literally like an entire time portal. It's also an entity.

[@DanielK1213th]

Men who grew up from an abusive household almost always ends up in one of two ways. One, he becomes like his father because deep in his subconscious mind, that's what 'family' is to him. Two, he avoids becoming like his father so extremely that he somehow ends up being too nice, even to people who don't appreciate him.

[@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289]

Or...they grow up to be bullies of other people.

[@tgr3423]

Wouldn't that just be the first one?

[@samuelshepard]

Idk who's reading this that needs to hear this, but the third way they turn out is completely normal due to therapy and self awareness, ending with acceptance.

[@edenub6791]

@@samuelshepard As someone who does come from an abusive household, I feel like the third one is the least likely to happen. While women usually have greater need of social services, men often find it difficult to access social services as most people do not understand the dynamics of abuse and may not understand that men can be victims as well. When someone says (coming from someone whose mom and brother regularly does this) "you need therapy" is commonly used as an insult and no one actually means it. Self awareness is harder than you probably think too, as men who've been abused get older, they become more vulnerable to those violent instincts we had experienced most of our lives.

[@samuelshepard]

@@edenub6791 just because it is the least likely to happen, which is obvious because it takes the most work, it’s still important to note that it isn’t impossible. Some kid reading this might have been disheartened and give up on ever being normal because kids are impressionable like that. There is a social issue with men not being emotionally supported, but i feel like comments like yours are more dangerous than you realize for third parties looking in, because it’s a LOT easier to just play the victim and throw a pity party, when in actuality it takes work to do anything and get better. I’m sorry you are going through what you’re going through, but if you keep an open mind and go through with therapy then i’m sure you’ll find your way out, and when your family says that it won’t be construed as an insult. Which will make them more upset and they’ll have to find another insult, which is funny for stupid people because they struggle with that

[@damianstarks3338]

Awesome analysis of two iconic horror movie characters.

[@jewsownthemedia3811]

ANALYZING EVIL : Israel.

[@Jmoney10000]

@@jewsownthemedia3811 lmao 😂

[@monke4476]

@@jewsownthemedia3811 lmao 😂

[@korkmazzi1299]

@@jewsownthemedia3811 conspiracy theorist moment

[@StoutProper]

Two? Jack and the hotel?

[@supgaw]

Put broadly, this makes me think the overlook combined with Jack tells the story of abuse in families throughout generations - the cycle of abuse, mental illness, addiction. A couple examples would be even the overlook not having much power when there are tons of people around. Then, the overlook reveals its true evil, "behind closed doors." Also, when the video describes the shackeling and abuse of someone who is vulnerable in order to gain power, I think of this a symbolic of the abuser who does the same to their victims. What do ya'll think?

[@sonder006]

Cant speak on the book but those are definitely a lot of underlying themes of the movie.

[@Xehanort10]

There's also Jack trying to escape his past but being constantly reminded of it and the Overlook's ghosts being trapped reliving their own pasts with the hotel itself being a kind of limbo.

[@supgaw]

@@Xehanort10 that sums it up really well!

[@PAntS-23]

Also also King used the whole Jack Torrence being a frustrated writer as a metaphor for his own struggle with alcohol, depression, and dear I say his own children.

[@LizLuvsCupcakes]

Well, Danny does escape his dad by literally stopping running in a circle He "breaks the cycle," if you will.

[@Xehanort10]

The Overlook's sort of like the town of Silent Hill in the Silent Hill games. They're both alive and bring out the darkness in people who go to them.

[@sarahtamblyn8339]

One if the videos I watched about The Shining says Silent Hill was inspired by the movie somewhat

[@haroohusky]

@@sarahtamblyn8339 Jacob's Ladder was Silent Hill's primary inspiration :]

[@horacederwent6246]

Yup. The Hotel was a sentient demonic entity of its own with a self aware mind and spirit energy of its own due to being cursed and absorbed the souls of those that died there or that were tied to its history, even if they passed away elsewhere (Derwent), the Hotel could replay memories and events of the Overlook Hotel's past, combined all eras into one, etc.

[@castortroy7704]

I agree. But my solidified theory is that the Overlook Hotel itself was alive an entity with a sentient mind and will of its own because the Overlook Hotel was possessed by a demon, The Management/The Caretaker/The Hotel creature, and the building was constructed on a Thinny from the Dark Tower series, a spiritual portal between dimensions and worlds in which humans or supernatural entities can cross over into other worlds. The Manager possessed the Overlook Hotel's building and merged as one with the building itself. The Management, along with the hotel's former owner and management when alive, Horace Derwent, a corrupt billionaire playboy with mob ties and second in command of the Manager, caused all of the gangland hits, other murders, suicides and other deaths within the Overlook Hotel. The Manager possessed all of the caretakers that went insane, killed their families and committed suicide, like Delbert Grady. Though not every caretaker's family had the Shining ability. Derwent and Grady were possessed and corrupted more by the Hotel, with Horace already being a corrupt businessman. Jack Torrance in the book and miniseries, unlike Grady and Derwent, redeemed his soul at the end of the novel and the television miniseries.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@castortroy7704 So It’s like that thing that attacked Jake when he tried to return to Roland in “The Wastelands?”

[@milkcatdog394]

Poor Shelly :-( I loved her in this movie, it’s awful the psychological toll Kubrick put on her...

[@AndriaBieberDesigns]

She has been exploited so many times. Including by Dr. Phil.

[@bobbysalkeld2634]

@@AndriaBieberDesigns What did Dr Phil do to her? Funny, I'm currently in FB jail because I said Dr Phil is a pussy...lol

[@jal7852]

@@bobbysalkeld2634 Dr. Phil basically portrayed her in an unsympathetic light. While Shelley has mental health issues, Dr. Phil just made her look crazy for the sake of ratings.

[@bobbysalkeld2634]

@@jal7852 Thank you kindly, internet stranger. Refreshing to acquaint myself with another thoughtful, intelligent person. Thank you.

[@he-mememan359]

​@@jal7852 Well he didn't make her look crazy, he exploited and broadcast her delusions for ratings.

[@cormactierney3626]

This channel is sick. My favourite part of english in school is analysing characters but the problem is they're boring ass characters. This channel makes such interesting videos absolutely love it

[@thinkingallowed7042]

Sick in the complimentary sense?

[@xd_Jam]

@@thinkingallowed7042I would assume so

[@Vulpes89]

The ending of the film - the July 4th Ball photo with Jack having his hands posed like the Devil/Baphomet - gives me shudders every time. It's the most haunting photo in cinema. "Moonlight, the stars and you..."

[@lovemussb1940]

You can buy that photo. I saw it in Camden market,in the stables. They were pictures of iconic scenes in movies. I got a quadrophenia one.

[@Baphomane]

Its not only Jack, the whole crowd seems off. This photo has a really eerie and weird vibe. Never noticed the Baphomet pose until now. As above so below.

[@powpunkonwhiskey6377]

I think the original photo that had JN photoshopped in is weird as the man Jack has taken the place off looks even creepier than Jack himself. The original photo was taken in 1923.

[@Quackervoltz]

It's midnight, the stars and you

[@ramunematt]

Analyzing Evil: Disney

[@silasgreene2479]

Walt disney?

[@donz6211]

A truly corrupting force.

[@buer_reub]

Would actually be a pretty good one

[@DYLANJJK94]

Lol the money hungry company that destroys everything It buys and ruins quite a few of their own original work wby making dumbass reboots lol

[@steven-el3sw]

@@silasgreene2479 No. Disney *after* Walt Disney.

[@orarinnsnorrason4614]

Analyzing evil ideas: Mickey & Mallory Knox - Natural born killers, Hannibal Lecter - Silence of the lambs

[@LaLloronaVT]

I thought you said Mickey Mouse and I was very confused lol

[@crimsondynamo615]

@@LaLloronaVT Mickey did some pretty questionable things during his service in Vietnam

[@wiseguy01]

@@crimsondynamo615 I understood that reference.

[@tristan_840]

@@wiseguy01 Ethereal Snake?

[@mr.clutch9548]

Please consider doing Michael Corleone. I think it’d be a great episode because the character is complex and it’s hard to tell if he’s evil or not at many points.

[@stephvandykeozzy]

That would be interesting!

[@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289]

I believe Michael is cunning, and fiercely intelligent, but not evil.

[@johnallenbailey1103]

@@williamg9527 he's not a psychopath.

[@bobholly3843]

@@johnallenbailey1103 He does get wrapped up in his own bit of evil though, especially at the time he orders Fredo to killed. He so consumed by his power and importance that he only thinks about what he's done after the act is committed. He tries to atone for it the entire 3rd movie, but he can't escape it at that point. Maybe not evil evil, but the man was wrestling with his own demons all 3 movies

[@johnallenbailey1103]

@@bobholly3843 he could be evil but he's not a psychopath

[@schneblen]

I feel that even in the movie the hotel is trying to add to itself. For me it's the elevator full of blood that I feel shows the hotels desires and when Grady tells Jack to kill Danny and Wendy the way the bathroom is mostly red with just a thin line of white at the top gives me very "almost full" vibes.

[@castortroy7704]

I think the blood flooding from the elevator was to symbolize the hotel's macabre history such as the slaying of Native Americans when the Overlook Hotel was built trying to reclaim their land, the mob hits that occurred under Horace Derwent's ownership due to Derwent's corruption and mafia ties as well as the other murders, suicides and other deaths. I believe the Indians cursing the grounds for the hotel being built on their burial ground animated the hotel's sentient supernatural power with a mind, will and demonic spirit of its own aka The Manager/The Caretaker/The Hotel-Creature.

[@GyprockGypsy]

Remember when great directors would get great screenplays adapted from great books and pick great actors to make absolutely amazing movies with nothing but a camera, a building, and 10,000 gallons of pigs blood?

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

Those were the days. The problem is the general public doesn't give a shit about quality storytelling anymore, they just want easy to follow plots and loud action scenes

[@yaboisoe178]

@@reservoirfrogs2177 yup don’t nobody got time for all tht extra analysis bs

[@im19ice3]

rofl

[@pyxl666]

The screenplay was absolutely nothing like the great book you mentioned.

[@felixputz5190]

It wasnt that much blood, they filmed this scene using a miniature

[@scrotiemcb5858]

I'd like to see your analysis of Elijah Price, aka Mr Glass, of _Unbreakable._

[@juliahenriques210]

+1

[@dromalloma2651]

This.

[@chelseagreenberg6234]

Yesss!

[@darylchurch2115]

So much!!!

[@JoyfulOrb]

Yes, Please!

[@Xehanort10]

6:40 Part of Jack probably hated his mother for not defending herself and him from his dad.

[@JonathanMandrake]

Good point. Not only that, but I think he also doesn't understand why she might let others do things like that to her and her son, him. He can understand why his father acted as he did, and can't judge him too much for it without judging himself, but he can't understand her. And not only that, but he also hates her for it, because he can't hate his father without hating himself

[@nkbujvytcygvujno6006]

My mother used to defend herself and us and she almost died from it. The police and CPS did nothing to help and just kept leaving and forgetting all about it by the next time. And she had no money to escape or energy to pursue a job, because she still had to live with him. And he attacked her every day especially when she had more energy and sleep. Often you literally do not have a choice. It sounds scary but that doesn’t mean you get to deny it and blame abuse victims for not being able to fight back or not magically saving themselves.

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT THE VILE EYE 👁‍🗨 ANALYSIS EVIL 😈 CHARACTER FROM JACK TORRANCE WORK.

[@8ball279]

Glad you had the same thought I did. No one has excuses for becoming evil but in the book it seemed almost bound to happen at some point in jacks life plus the overwhelming hotels influence. But in the film it truly feels like your watching the nice guy facade shift into what monster he truly is.

[@koboldengineering7687]

This channel deserves way more views. Putting out such quality so fast requires serious hard work and dedication. Keep it up.

[@Thespeedrap]

Can't believe the movie 40 years old and this movie still holds up today.

[@poutinedream5066]

It's held up for th last 40 years alot better than I did 😂

[@chvlk]

Jack is still a dull boy.

[@frankieverona5353]

yeah i would have wanted to see his younger years and his background and where his resentment towards women came from

[@__-ci7kf]

nothing bad about a bit of well placed pimp hand to put women in their place especially in 2021 clown world

[@lunardoeseverything5393]

Too much work and no play

[@AnomalyINC]

...something something...

[@chvlk]

@@AnomalyINC ...something something something....daaaaaaaark side. Something something something.... daaaaaaaark siiiide.

[@rakeshsspiceclub5554]

Analysing evil: Gustavo Fring (Breaking Bad)

[@Handlemaster_53]

Yes! nice one.

[@adonissherlock]

Holy shit yes please

[@roackeru5999]

I would like to cover Walter White as well

[@buer_reub]

Yes!!!!

[@SquoangleProductions]

He wasn’t evil, he was just Mexican I think. Sometimes they do that stuffs. Cartel etc. He also served delicious crispy chicken sandwiches at a reasonable price but nobody is making a video about that, i’m just saying 😒

[@VedantSarkar]

Been waiting for this! Now do HANNIBAL or else I'll bring out my 🍷

[@imcallingjapan2178]

Jame Gumb: Am I a joke to you?

[@juliahenriques210]

Hannibal should be a 100k special.

[@VedantSarkar]

@@juliahenriques210 ikr!

[@VedantSarkar]

@@imcallingjapan2178 😂😂would love to see his analysis too !

[@caz5021]

@@juliahenriques210 AGREED

[@shenloken2]

The Shining is one of the most analyzed movies in cinema history. The fact there’s a movie about analyzing the film’s supposed deeper meanings is a testament to this. It’s come a long way from it’s tepid beginnings as a critically panned commercial failure.

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

I cannot thank you enough for including the descriptions & information found in THE BOOK as well as the film version of *The Shining.* People always forget it.

[@marcusryan9129]

I don't feel Jack was evil he was just vulnerable. He was another perfect tool for the Overlook evil to manipulate.

[@Bl00dBl055um]

Disagree. He is not a good person even before the hotel and it is well outlined in the video. The Overlook made him much worse.

[@butterstotch3233]

He literally said that Jack wasn’t necessarily evil without the influence of the hotel what’s the point of arguing at this point

[@butterstotch3233]

That’s what the entire series is called analyzing evil if you were to ask anyone I guarantee you that most if not all people would consider Jack a villain

[@butterstotch3233]

Oh and with him scraping the bottom of the barrel there are many more videos he can make he hasn’t even made one of Hannibal Lecter or Palpatine no need to get so pissed

[@Boddaaah]

@12canadianboy12 He said in the beginning of the video he is considering Jack and The Overlook as a dual character. I don't understand your issue. The evil is very much there.

[@jwnj9716]

An epic horror masterpiece from start to finish. It has the perfect soundtrack to go along, its eerie and creepy. Even though the story is clear, it still leaves you with so many unanswered questions. Shelly doesn't get enough credit for this movie, she nailed it as someone who is damaged and confused. Off course she had to go through a tough challenge with Kubrick but it gave us so many unforgettable moments. Its kinda funny that her character is a fan of horror films, oh boy, towards the end she gets the horror film of her life. People have come up with so many theories or analyses which are interesting although the moonlanding theory is ridiculous. Rob Ager debunked it thankfully. Plus I like the scene with Grady, he never blinks....creepy. Yeah Jack here is nothing like the book, we are given a clue from the very beginning that he is dangerous. In fact, the whole family is damaged before they even get to the hotel. How can we forget the scene where he stares at them (the thumbnail) its such a bizarre scene, its like he was planning to murder them from the beginning and it happens very early. Oh yeah, are there 2 old ladies in room 237? Why does it cut to her in the bathtub slowly rising up? Maybe its a twin, even the hair is shorter....no idea, this film messes with you. The hotel itself is a maze as well. For me, its just history repeating itself or maybe this is Jack's new book. He did say that "its quite a story" after hearing about Grady's story....so who knows.

[@poutinedream5066]

I'm a huge fan of th shining. I think there are 2 old women, that they are the blue dress girls, fraternal twins who have lived on, trapped in the hotel. Something I've never seen addressed is the toilet. It has no tank. Nor do the toilets in the red bathroom. Like the TV with no cord, there is no connection to the outside world. The torrence toilet however, has a tank. And right under the window, it turns out to be the literal connection to the outside world. So 237, certainly its bathroom is a place where souls get trapped, where one runs the risk if never leaving, thus dick's warning for Danny to stay out of the room. I suspect if one looked at the dates, the age of the girls the year of their murders and the general age of the 237 women would likely line up pretty well.

[@DurkDiggler]

boring film

[@Flashjackmak]

I'm glad you included the hotel itself in this. I've always felt I had a good grasp on Jack's character but the hotel has always been quite strange and nebulous to me (which, I imagine, is deliberate). Thank you for the video, it was very informative and relaxing.

[@castortroy7704]

The Overlook Hotel itself and the evil human spirits trapped within it were under the control of a demon aka the Caretaker. In the book the main demon is what possessed Jack.

[@DogCult666]

You should have millions of views!

[@kimmoreels7950]

he will get there ;)

[@st4ne4rmthevill63]

Found your channel 4 days ago & have binge watched it all. I love villains, especially nuanced villains, so this channel is a dream come true.

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

The most interesting thing about Jack and the Hotel is it is a two way street. They feed off each other. It wasn't as simple as Jack being a man with a flawed personality being easy prey for the hotel to influence him. Jack and the Hotel almost become one, each feeding back into each other in an escalating loop. Jack isn't merely a victim. He was an active participant in his fate.

[@castortroy7704]

Nicholson's Jack Torrance more so willingly than Jack in the novel. The Manager, the sentient demonic entity of the Overlook Hotel that possessed its building, was a demon that traveled into our world via Thinny, from the Dark Tower series, on which the Overlook was built. The demon merged as one with the building itself and commanded its imprisoned human of late guests and staff that died in the hotel or were connected to the Hotel, like former owner Horace Derwent. Who served as the Management's second in command. Jack was just a perfect pawn for the Hotel demon and its phantom minions to get to Danny.

[@necrozmaIV]

So like a parasite?

[@SpAzMaTiCJ]

I LITERALLY YELLED “YES!” WHEN I SAW THIS TITLE, favourite movie and book.

[@F4Frenzy]

Analyzing evil: Swiper The Fox

[@HariKrishnan-kx1is]

That one might be too grisly for KZbin

[@KamiAva]

I'm not kidding do it

[@lucymcnamara4558]

😂😂

[@samanthakelly718]

Bro I’m DEAD.

[@Thespeedrap]

Swiper no swiping😄😄

[@CosmoInaSweater]

When ever Jack Nicholson is on screen, I just think of the deepfake where someone put Jim Carreys face over jacks.

[@dakotablount251]

And when some people claimed it was actually Jim acting it out as a tribute

[@CosmoInaSweater]

@@dakotablount251 so, you're telling me that people thought it was real? That sounds kinda stupid.

[@dakotablount251]

@@CosmoInaSweater I was long things on the "subtle brilliance" of jim's acting. It was cringe

[@Thespeedrap]

They did put Jim Carrey in the Jack role on some video look for it.

[@dakotablount251]

@@Thespeedrap that's the fake we mean

[@misterkefir]

Analyzing Evil: Electronic Arts It will be the greatest episode ever, I assure you.

[@eternal327]

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[@misterkefir]

@@eternal327 Gfy

[@SjofnBM1989]

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[@SjofnBM1989]

@@eternal327 you must be a Sims 4 dev.

[@eternal327]

@@SjofnBM1989 i am how did u guess

[@wingflanagan]

I congratulate you, sir. You are officially a KZbinr who has found something new to say about The Shining which is not silly or downright nuts. Very insightful!

[@bananamanchester4156]

I think that Wendy is the main character in the movie. She has the most agency, and she goes through a character arc. At the start of the movie she naively believes that her abusive husband has changed for the better. She is a good person and believes in Jack's innate goodness, even though he doesn't show her or Danny the warmth and kindness they deserve. He quit drinking which is great, but the fundamental change in his attitude hasn't occurred, so the changes are surface level. Wendy eventually learns to fight for herself and outsmart Jack, leaving him for good in the end. Book Jack has innate goodness in him but he doesn't deal with the mental health issues (I strongly suspect PTSD) leading to his toxic behaviour. Eventually, despite making a real, genuine effort to change, he isn't able to do so. He is as much a victim of himself as his family is.

[@TheShadowChesireCat]

I always felt the Overlook just went for the deeply flawed or those really suffering in their own minds, because it was the easier way to get to feed off suffering, pain and vice. I kind of feel the Overlook itself is an allegory for an abuser's abusive thoughts. It feeds off suffering with the false promise of incredible violence leading to a much better life for the abuser. I also think the good use of alcohol as enabling imagery mirrors real life. Alcohol doesn't make people abusive. The abusive thoughts are already there. Alcohol just lets the lid off the iron tight control on the thoughts an abuser may have. In Jack's case, certainly. Nicholson's performance is masterful though. That opening interview, I always got the feeling Jack was thinking those thoughts like in the book. But we just didn't have the view into his mind like in the book. He remained pleasant and friendly-ish, but the tone always had me on edge. Like, it was a saccharine polite veneer that masked for the abuser lurking underneath.

[@horacederwent6246]

Yes. And the Hotel was Derwent's poltergeist animated and sentient.

[@hamzaorakzai3490]

Best channel on youtube in terms of analyzing fictional characters and exploring their psyche

[@gluten1221]

since my birth, my dad slowly spiralled deeper and deeper into alcohol abuse and violence. most of my traumatic memories start when i was 9 but i know that wasn’t when it “started”. he sat me down on the couch and explained to me- a nine year old- that he regretted starting a family, my mum isn’t the same woman he fell in love with anymore, and that he’s leaving forever. he came back drunk with a pizza the next day and i was to relieved to “have my dad back” i didn’t process how fucked that conversation was until much much later. despite this i was always very close to my dad- throughout childhood he was my best friend and i was his- but this didn’t make him any less evil. i would listen to him shout at and berate my mum and (much like jack) i began to resent my mum for pissing him off in the first place. Unlike jacks mum, my mum is an incredibly strong woman. she never backed down or agreed with my dad just because she was scared… but of course as my dad got worse this became a very dangerous cycle. what started as arguments became abuse, and when i was a child i didn’t understand how manipulative my dad was- you see he wouldn’t shout until he became desperate, so most of his abuse towards my mum was spoken softly, unheard by me and my siblings. to us, it seemed my mum would start crying and shouting randomly, and my dad manipulated me into thinking she was a crazy woman. inheriting both my parents stubbornness and hotheadedness, the older i got the more i began to fight with my mum too. around the age of 11, i watched my dad smash my mums head into the front door, listened to her scream for me to call somebody, but i just stood frozen watching. this was the moment i learned my dad was a greater, more powerful evil than i ever realised, but his manipulation had such a strong grip that i took this as a lesson to never antagonise the man: always be his friend and this won’t happen to you. i still viewed my mum as the one who “starts it”, so in my child mind this was just her “punishment”. to this day i break down crying, sometimes throwing up with the immense physical pain of the guilt. to know that if i called somebody- the police, my gran, a friend, anybody- this could have stopped so much sooner. as i’m sure you can imagine it only continued to get worse from here, the mental abuse now matched by physical. when i was 13 my dad quit his job to go to university out of a desperate realisation he’s wasting his life away, so my stay at home mum had to frantically find a job (he didn’t let her know before hand so she had about a fortnight before we’d start to run out of money) and my dad spent most of his days at home or at school. it started off fine, but soon i began to dread coming home from school as he was always drunk, stressed and frighteningly unpredictable. as i entered teenhood our “friendship” became strained because i started to dread talking to him. by the time i was 14 i realised he was an abusive partner and definitely mentally unstable, but i was so far in that i had nobody to talk to about it. we lived in a nice neighbourhood- the judgy type. i knew if i told my teachers they would treat me differently (this did eventually happen) and if i told a friend the whole town would know and there’d be endless rumours about us. while i knew i could handle it, my younger sister was struggling to make friends, and my mum cares very deeply about not being pitied on by her peers and feared being labelled a “weak helpless woman, likely unable to look after her kids”, so i knew getting help from outside the family was never an option. i was extremely depressed during this point in my life- and i’m yet to fully recover. i started self harming in many different ways, i would only go to school because if i stayed home i’d be stuck with dad. i can remember the physical feeling of misery and hopelessness. when i was 15, i was putting my little siblings to bed when i heard an argument start, so i did what i always did and turned their tv up full volume, set up their stuffed animals in a way that muffled the sounds down stairs and shut their door. i waited at the top of the stairs, listening…my mum started choking, screaming, and i ran down and watched my dad helplessly beat the shit out of her. slamming, punching, choking- everything. i tried to pull him away but i wasn’t nearly strong enough- you know that feeling in nightmares where you go to punch someone and your arms are floaty and useless, or when you run but the walls move with you and you end up not going anyway- that’s exactly what trying to stop my dad felt like. eventually he dropped her and started ranting to me about why he hates us all and his life has been wasted and “he used to be somebody”. my mum and me crawled up the stairs while he stood in the hall screaming at us. i dont know how i found the strength to do it, but i called the police. i passed out on the stairs, my vision black and the muffled sounds of my mum talking to me fading out before i could give the address. i obviously don’t know what happened but when I woke up my mum had my phone and was talking and walking just fine, and my dad was gone. the stress and fear of the decision i just made held so much more weight on me than the actual abuse. i remember thinking “you finally did it, and now everything will never be the same”. this wasn’t a happy or sad thought, just a realisation my life is going to chaos for a while. the police took 30 minutes. i brought my siblings downstairs and put on a movie while we waited. i felt completely numb. at some point my dad came in and started screaming at me, right in my face “you’ve fucking ruined everything. you tore this family apart” but i remember not even having the strength to make an expression, let alone process what he’s saying. i could feel tears running down my cheeks but that’s the only sensation i remember- no emotions, no physical pain, no fear or flinching at this man close enough that his breath made my eyes sting and tear up. when the police arrived i gave a perfect account for what happened emotionlessly. i don’t remember anything after this point except the nothingness. this was the event that made me hate my dad. this is what it took for all that gaslighting and mental gymnastics to wear off so i could see him for what he truly is. a monster.

[@rosyvilla6141]

I tried not to judge you so hard, because you were also a victim, but as someone who went through the same, I just can’t understand how your first thought was about how your life was going to change for the worst and not about your mother’s suffering. Like who tf cares what the city is going to think, when your mom is being abused?

[@troyteasley9889]

Is this true

[@troyteasley9889]

Wow I really feel your pain

[@huskiefan8950]

​@@rosyvilla6141 this person already stated that they felt guilty, now you say something to make them feel more, on top of their suffering? Somewhat dick-like, don't you think? Insensitive at least?

[@rachelyoung436]

Please don't blame yourself for the situation you were born into. It wasn't your fault. You did what you needed to do to survive and protect your siblings.

[@KentuckyWallChicken]

Oooh this is going to be fun! I haven’t seen anybody suggest Gregory Anton from the 1944 classic Gaslight, but I would love to see an Analyzing Evil video on his character.

[@anotherloser2858]

People aren't always cruel when they've experienced cruelty. The bullies I knew came from either loving, caring families or from parents that believed their children were infallible and perfect beyond belief. Often times people are cruel simply because they find it funny until someone corrects the behavior with compassion.

[@BearlyAwake13]

Thank you for pointing this out. I too have a lot of experience with bullies from the second kind of family. Those kids ended up feeling very entitled because they were never taught that their actions have consequences.

[@anotherloser2858]

@@BearlyAwake13 From my personal experience, you could clearly tell which bullies were experiencing abuse at home since the way they approached me with abuse was either from extensive practice/ imitation or stemming from sudden outbursts and a need to "let off steam". I think in this day and age where child abuse is strongly looked down on, you're more likely to see bullies that are entitled/ spoiled/ trying to show off than bullies who are victims in their households. And frankly, most of the ones that messed with me did it because they just thought it was hilarious- and told me as such.

[@BearlyAwake13]

@@anotherloser2858 Yeah, I absolutely share that experience. I think there was 1 kid I'm pretty sure was mirroring what was going on at home, but everyone else were entitled/found it funny.

[@jakobrenner2230]

Analyzing Evil: Johan Liebert from _Monster_ ?

[@_Katzenberg]

Do you want to break the channel? That would be awesome

[@simpforchrollo8964]

Y E S!

[@bogan49]

Hell yea my favorite anime

[@82dorrin]

The book version of Jack is a much more layered and deep character. A basically decent guy who couldn't overcome his demons in the end. In many ways, Jack Torrance was exactly what he thought he was: a nice guy with a bad temper. He was so ordinary. He was more sympathetic and tragic.

[@PrinceAliTheGreatest]

I find Jack in the film too be more realistic in my opinion. He’s a man who wants to escape reasonability and have fun, that’s why I think he wants too connects too Danny more and gets furious at Wendy for suggesting to leave the Overlook, as The Overlook is the only thing bringing him the feeling of being a kid again. More so he’s someone who I can relate too. He’s dragged into a world where he do want too be in, and he hates his wife and himself for that. A man who hates something he had passion for (writer) because of his bad temperament. Alcohol and The Overlook was his only comfort.

[@justincooper1884]

You nailed it 82dorrin.

[@Dhampir1987]

You have no clue how happy I am that you used the book. Most people that talk about the shinning always jump to the movie do to not wanting to bother reading, or even listen to the audio book. I think it's safe to assume that the Overlook is a form of Domus Mactibilis ( thank you monster house lol ) do to it being refrenced multiple times in the book as being an entity all on its own. It takes people when it can, and Danny having such a strong shine is like a buffet for it. I think that if Jack's shine wasn't so buried deep, or a little bit stronger than they may of escaped the place a lot sooner. In a small sense I feel a little sympathy for Jack's broken mind.

[@castortroy7704]

You read my mind. I believe the Indians cursing the Overlook Hotel as vengeance for the hotel being built on their burial ground animated the hotel's sentient supernatural power with a mind and will of its own from the beginning. The evil that occurred there due to Horace Derwent and his mafia connections that caused the gangland hits at the hotel as well as the other deaths and negative energy only powered and fed the Hotel's power more. The Management had the ability to replay all memories and events of the hotel's history, such as Derwent's fourth of July unmasking party, and combine all eras of its history into one. Jack going crazy from cabin fever and the Hotel, using its imprisoned souls as manifestations, influencing Jack to drink again so it could possess Jack to get to Danny, was a temporary victory. After Jack redeemed himself in the book and the Hotel as well as its trapped human spirits killed Jack, the Hotel's overconfidence cost it. I think the ghost of Horace Derwent was the Caretaker's second in command of the imprisoned human spirits, demons and poltergeists.

[@BigBurg97]

My perspective is only from the movie and I see him as a deeply troubled, toxic but also tragic character

[@jandoe2576]

Not even 30 seconds in the video: Thank you for taking the book into account too! Kubricks Shining might be a good Horror movie but saying that Kubrick did not catch the point of the book would be a great understatement. The book is about the slow decline into madness of Jack Torrance, yet you see Jack Nicholson as an all out psyhopath first time you see him in the movie. I totally get why Steven King was insulted by the movie. Not to mention the role alcohol played in the book. In the book alcohol was how the hotel finally got him, Kings Shining was a huge criticism about alcoholism and domestic violence. A common theme in his book. Kubricks Shining was waiting until the raging psychopath finally loses controll. No sign of the loving being that Kings Jack Torrance could have been, if it wasn't for his traumatic experiences with domestic violence and alcohol abuse he experienced as a child.

[@petermj1098]

The whole point of the movie is that it blurs the line if there are actually ghosts or everyone naturally just went mad. The book was clearly just supernatural as the movie is psychological horror. It blurs the line if Jack is being influenced by ghosts to becoming or Jack was deep down mad since the beginning and was always was willing to kill his family at the hotel. Whether there are ghosts or not doesn't change the fact that Jack never changed his twisted attitude towards his family.

[@Jargon]

25:47 That's such a Kubrikian facial expression. The confused baby face Malcolm Mc Dowell also does in "A clockwork orange"

[@sampsonlll1825]

Jack Nicholson was a firefighter; his skill on display with the fire axe breaching the interior door was intimate experience on display. If I remember correctly, Kubrick had Jack axe through about a dozen doors to capture the scene.

[@Pazuzusdad]

This is such an awesome channel. Your takes on these characters are pragmatic and refreshing, free of any personal platitudes or pretentious filler.

[@senguin]

Analyzing Evil: Jack from The House That Jack Built

[@TheInfamousBertman]

this would be SO good

[@Anna-tk7ui]

Ugh, poor Grumpy......

[@OASIS23-]

YES

[@darotm7628]

Please

[@gfunkmadness]

I’m in oar of you

[@gabestockley2546]

man, just want to say how much I appreciate this channel. top quality work, one of my fave channels on KZbin for sure.

[@tracys4161]

The restroom scene with Jack and Delbert Grady creeps me the hell out every time I see it.

[@crycv8458]

I love that "bully behavior" quote at 3:57 Used to think it was total nonsence but I remember in freshman year of highschool there was this kid that was a total a-hole and would treat everyone like trash, but senior year the entire class bonded after a field trip and he opened up to me about his home life and why he acted out in class and towards people. Really changed my perspective on things like how everyone has a different story.

[@downtownj9730]

I love these! Im a movie fan and an aspiring writer. I love watching these after I make my own analysis on characters. Thanks for taking your time to make these!

[@billgitelson4888]

On the most macro level this film is about a writer overcoming writer’s block. The movie transitions from reality to the story that eventually gets written. Jack conflates his and the hotel’s history to overcome his writer’s block. That is why inconsistencies occur in the hotel and character details (i.e. the sisters and Grady, disappearing chairs, decals) Change in typewriter and color of clothing are clues to which world we are experiencing. How he contemplates the maze and types… The audience is transitioned into the story Jack is writing.

[@lovemussb1940]

First saw this on telly in the 80’s when I was 11 . Since then maybe 6-7 times through the years. Every time I would watch it i understood it more and more. Now as an adult I totally get the story.. A true masterpiece.. And the best bit in the the movie? “You’ve always been the caretaker sir.

[@SingyEatyTim3]

Jesus, man... This movie still gets analyzing videos, or reviews, or theory videos. That's how you can tell that Kubrick and his crew did an amazing job at making a film that still reaches out to people after being out for a few decades... May the Shining, shine on.

[@sunilpermaul7876]

I would say Jacks anger towards his mother for her "weakness" comes from him suffering because of her. I believe in Jack's mind, his mother was supposed to protect him, but she didn't. She, for whatever reasons, stayed with the abusive husband/father and because of that, Jack suffered. This would explain the anger and possible resentment towards his mother.

[@gilbertleo8232]

If this were a college lecture you'd have gotten a standing ovation . Thanks for your brilliant video essay .

[@justaguy2182]

The way I see it, in the movie, Jack was basically a carbon copy of his father, but unlike his father, he actually tried hiding it, because he knew he’d end up behind bars if he tormented his wife or beat his son too much. He knew it would escalate, so he puts on a facade of just being a loving husband and father, when in reality he’s a deeply troubled man who can’t keep his tendencies in check. During that initial interview for the caretaker position, Jack’s face and overall demeanor seemed fake to me, artificial. A grin with nothing behind the eyes.

[@themaninblack7503]

Dr Sleep brings up the problem that Jack's mistake was trying to beat his addiction by himself. Danny by comparison is able to succeed in handling his addiction by joining AA. Btw could you do the True Knot from Dr Sleep?

[@lorenheard2561]

Shelly Duvall has been horribly,and undeservedly under rated as a great actress. I can fully understand and empathize with her portrayal of Wendy Torrance as a mom and wife. And Not because of anything in my immediate family. Shelly should have received many more valid film offers... It seems some directors and producers like to WRING the very existence out of their actresses!!

[@kathybrascher1910]

I like that you use both the book and the movie to analyze this story. It’s a good idea.

[@chrischeckerslara3441]

Jack Torrence is one of my favorite Antagonist of Cinema History! (Probably in my Top 5). But, I can't help to feel sorry for him and to relate him at times. Cuz in the end, he's just trying to be a better man, father, and provider of a family. Thank you for making this Mr. Vile Eye.

[@christinac3127]

When I first read this book, it was horror, yes, but to me, it just made me feel incredibly sad. It's a tragedy. I think that in other circumstances, Jack could've overcome his past trauma, and the family could have been whole again. He seemed to really want to be a better husband and father.

[@koboldengineering7687]

He probably could've become a new man if not for the corrupting influence of the hotel

[@jerrygoodwin4077]

I totally agree!👍

[@grimnar1976]

Your coverage of Hannibal got me to read most of that series, and now your coverage of Jack and the hotel got me looking for an audiobook for the shining, much appreciated my dude

[@chelseagarcia2511]

I saw the movie before I read the book, I still enjoy the movie even though the book's ending is SO much better. Would love to see a Hannibal!

[@erickleefeld4883]

Comparing the Jack form the book and the Jack from the movie really does illustrate why Stephen King hated the movie: His book was about a man of 30 who’s been struggling with all his inner demons and childhood traumas, and trying to adapt to the newfound responsibilities of a family. As in, King was really writing about himself at the time, and picturing a tragic figure who ends up collapsing under all the temptations and going over totally to the dark side. Kubrick looked at this story and just saw an insufferable prick with no redeeming values in the first place. Furthermore, he cast an actor who was already in his 40’s, an age by which you’re really supposed to have sorted out any such personal issues. I’ll also add: A much better casting choice at the time for the Jack from the book would’ve been Robin Williams.

[@horacederwent6246]

Imo the Hotel/The Manager/the Caretaker, the sentient demonic entity of the Overlook Hotel was Horace Derwent's poltergeist created by Derwent's evil spirit energy and personality traits and all of the mafia executions that occured during his ownership of the Overlook Hotel in addition to the hotel being cursed from being built on an Indian burial ground. And Derwent's poltergeist only grew more powerful with Danny's psychic abilities, replayed events and memories such as the masquerade ball, combined all eras of the Hotel's history into one etc.

[@kostasp7492]

Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver would be an excellent choice for analyzing evil

[@1bridge11]

Was he really evil?

[@coeurdelion689]

Only Travis was not evil

[@Thespeedrap]

He wasnt evil the world around him was evil just like it is NOW.

[@mrtyrant1680]

He wasn't evil. He was just a guy suffering from a existential crisis and a growing hate of the world around him.

[@HariKrishnan-kx1is]

@@1bridge11 I think the point of the movie is to ask that very question. Different people will come to different conclusions.

[@Xehanort10]

In the sequel Doctor Sleep the adult Danny like his dad Jack develops a drinking problem but Danny manages to get sober. And when he meets Jack in the Overlook which is either Jack's ghost trapped in the hotel or the hotel itself taking Jack's form to taunt Danny he says "The man takes a drink then the drink takes a drink then the drink takes the man."

[@MrCarolineiscool]

It’s also interesting how so many of these characters play through the same scenarios as King with his own addiction. Almost like different versions of what King himself could have become depending on whether or not he got sober. The man takes a drink line is a common phrase in AA and NA programs.

[@Xehanort10]

@@MrCarolineiscool He also said that Misery's Annie Wilkes was not only based on his fears of obsessed fans but that she was a metaphor for his drinking and drug addiction.

[@Perkeletricksterservantofrher]

@@ObsydianShade because that show was a garbage non cannon cash grab thats why its obvious

[@adamcuneo7189]

When Dick Halloraan is talking to Danny in the film, he says to Danny the common phrase that "places are a lot like people", which perfectly describes what the Overlook Hotel is, especially what it is in the novel.

[@jeni-w7748]

If you ever decide to do podcasts, you'll have plenty of listeners! One of my favourite smaller channels and the growth I've seen is epic! Grats

[@Beetwixt_N._Janeen2112]

Although I love the Kubrick film version, I must say that after listening to this video, I can surely understand why King would be ferocious that the film veered way off course from his book. Wow! 😵‍💫👀 Thank you 💯

[@hamzaorakzai3490]

Do you have plans to do a Euron Greyjoy video in the future? I'm of course talking about the book version. I think he's one of the most fascinating villians in all of fantasy

[@mrtyrant1680]

It wouldn't be a good idea, since the book is unfinished.

[@Ivy94F]

@@mrtyrant1680 I kind of agree with you. There are so many characters who are already interesting, but their arc isn’t over so I think he absolutely would be interesting to analyze once the books have been completed. I am just fascinated by what euron is going to do next.

[@WickedScott]

The Shining was always very disturbing for me as I didn't want to, but couldn't help but compare myself to him. I, luckily never had a family to take it out on, but my life has been a path of self-loathing, self destruction out of anger at myself for failure. I identified with him not seeing himself as a bad guy but one with a bad temper. I viewed myself that way until I finally realized I was alone and no one liked me. I am not an alcoholic either, so my vice is self pity and depression. I've had women in my life, but they start out fascinated with the troubled artist and that gets old quick.

[@Tully_23_32]

I feel for Shelly Duval, she was literally tortured in this film, it mentally broke her

[@somedorkydude6483]

It's weird about how a movie about abuse stanly abused his lead actress

[@AEtrane]

Scatman Crothers too: they had to do hundreds of takes to the point of being driven to tears and mentally broken. And Kubrick would keep those cuts. That's part of what makes the film so uncomfortable to watch: you're watching actual human suffering.

[@Dzanarika1]

We are all more-less mentally broken.

[@Dzanarika1]

@@somedorkydude6483no pain, no gain.

[@youtuber5669]

this video motivated me to read both the shining and doctor sleep novels so thank you

[@starset4life175]

Analyzing evil: Micah Bell from Red Dead Redemption 2?

[@nxxdle_]

Yes! Video game characters in general would broaden this channel’s scope

[@joeshmoe5169]

This ^^^^^^^

[@johndetheshape3095]

I agreee

[@aruen4575]

A video on Dutch too

[@notcomedytv8854]

Great idea

[@individualm6712]

TY for this analysis. Listened to the book Several times and saw the movie twice. You helped me enjoy and find empathy for these characters again.

[@Para2normal]

I always felt sure that The Shining was influenced by Clark Ashton Smiths Genius Loci, a short story about a specific place having a malevolent spiritual force, and of course Shirley Jacksons The House on the Hill. This idea of a place or a building having a spiritual personality of its own is I'm sure something others have encountered. I know I have been to places that felt utterly welcoming as well as places that felt hostile.

[@horacederwent6246]

Interesting. I agree. The Overlook Hotel itself was alive as an evil entity with a sentient mind, animated supernatural power and demonic spirit of its own and most likely as a result of the Indians cursing the hotel as revenge for the hotel being constructed on their burial site. The Manager/The caretaker/The Hotel-Creature needed Danny's psychic powers to spread its power beyond the grounds of the Overlook Hotel and fully animate its own spirit power and for the imprisoned ghosts, demons and poltergeists to make themselves fully real. Horace Derwent's ghost was the Hotel's second in command of the spirits, being the former owner responsible for the hotel's history through Derwent's mob connections.

[@castortroy7704]

I believe that "The Management ", the sentient demonic entity of the Overlook Hotel, was a demon that came from a 'Thinny', a supernatural portal, presented as a tear across the Earth, in which entities can cross between dimensions and worlds. The Manager possessed the Overlook Hotel from the time it was constructed. Merging as one with the building itself. The former owner and management when alive, Horace Derwent, the corrupt billionaire playboy with mob ties that caused the gangland hits that occurred at the hotel, was the acting face of the Hotel's self-aware evil power and second in command. The Management not only had the ability to capture the souls of the late former guests and staff that died within the Overlook Hotel or those tied to its history, but its power was animated by all of its imprisoned human spirits, demons and poltergeists as well. It needed Danny's shining to escape the confines of the Overlook and spread its power to capture more souls, more of the Shining from other human beings, and cause more destruction if the Hotel creature hadn't inadvertently sabotaged itself with its overconfidence and foolishness.

[@kamikazechivalry1264]

Sitting at home with covid and glad I found a channel to binge watch.

[@charlesthorndike2702]

This video is great! For those who love The Shining, I would STRONGLY recommend watching Rob Ager/Collative Learning's videos on The Shining. They're amazing.

[@89RealThe]

This was still my favourite episode from Analysing Evil.

[@einterranaut1724]

Jack Nicholsons performance in this movie is a piece of art in itself. He is the bad guy, but at the same time he is the victim of the Overlook Hotel. I think it is this inner contradiction that makes the role of Jack Torrance so outstanding.

[@funeralsnacks]

Thank you for acknowledging those who are listening and not watching, I find your narration a good sleep aide

[@bradstory6545]

Great job. Well done on the analysis that separated the Jack Torrance of the book from the one in the film; very different characters. While I empathized with the Jack in the book, I never could with the one in the film. The one in the book seemed like essentially a good man trying to overcome the demons that led him to do bad things when under their influence (stress and alcohol) while the film one seemed like essentially a bad man who was acting good between acts of evil who used alcohol as an excuse to revel in his true nature. King's sequel, 'Doctor Sleep' provides amplification about alcohol's dulling the ability to 'shine', and that the gift was indeed passed from Jack to Danny, as well as from Jack to Danny's half-sister.

[@castortroy7704]

Agreed. Jack in the book was simply a flawed tragic pawn for the Hotel-creature which was the sentient evil entity of the Overlook Hotel itself which had a mind, demonic energy and spirit of its own, likely due to the hotel being cursed by the Native-Americans for building the hotel on the ancient Indian burial ground, cursing and animating the sentient being aka the Manager/The Caretaker and it captured all those dead human spirits. The Hotel-creature was the true villain.

[@Slybo]

You're summary of the Overlook at the end of the video where you describe it as a collection of negative energy large enough to actively seek more power for itself reminded me of "Johnny The Homicidal Maniac". THAT would be a great episode for this channel. You could even include the spin-off "I Feel Sick".

[@castortroy7704]

Yes, I agree with that as well. The Overlook Hotel itself was alive as a sentient evil entity with a mind and spiritual power of its own from the start. Much like Rose Red. In my theory the Overlook Hotel was built on a "Thinny ", a supernatural portal described in the Dark Tower series as a tear over the Earth that allows living beings and spirits to cross over into other dimensions and worlds. I think the demonic spirit that possessed the Overlook Hotel's building, The Management, came from this Thinny and probably harnessed the Thinny to possess the entire hotel. While Rose Red was built on an Indian burial ground and cursed, and the mansion itself was a sentient malevolent entity-location possessed by a demon from the burial ground. The more of its victims the Hotel absorbs the stronger its power grew. Danny's Shining abilities would've given the demon and the Overlook Hotel's imprisoned human spirits, demons and poltergeists the power to be fully alive and real, able to spread its power far beyond the walls and grounds of the Overlook Hotel to kill and possess more people in the world, absorb more souls as an addition and become a God Like entity in its intention.

[@TheGrogin13]

Watching this and hearing the explanation of the hotel, reminds me of the Haunting of Bly Manor and the first season of American Horror story. Where the house is using the people staying in it like food. Very interesting breakdown of the film and book. Thank you for this, great video.

[@_Katzenberg]

This is the content I can dive in for hours. Thanks Vile Eye for this amazing contribution to the evil of the world.

[@inquisitorbacon8170]

Ok, now I'm terrified just because of how close Jack's past mirrors my own. I just gave up on loving my father.

[@BearlyAwake13]

I relate to that. While it's been many years since I decided to emotionally separate myself from my father, I still worry a lot about becoming like him. I do find it comforting to know that even if a lot of abusers were abused themselves, most survivors of abuse do not become abusers. Good luck moving forward to you, and I hope you get to do all the healing you need

[@The3Storms]

Mine wasn’t physically abusive, but I was so miserable as his kid and so like him in too many ways he’s part of why I decided I wouldn’t have children.

[@inquisitorbacon8170]

@@The3Storms I will say, it's surprising how much you can change from your parent/s without realizing it. I never expecting to be the type of father I've been, I have my faults but I'm quick to apologize and haven't repeated those mistakes. As long as we can recognize the behavior that needs changed and stay active in that we can be better.

[@The3Storms]

@@inquisitorbacon8170 I’m happy for you, I’m proud of you, and I am grateful for people like you who choose to grow beyond. I wish you and yours every joy.

[@inquisitorbacon8170]

@@The3Storms thank you Heather and please, don't give up on your ability to be better than those that came before as well. You deserve as much happiness as we do.

[@dinab7852]

I can't stop watching video analysis of The Shining & Eyes Wide Shut! I'm obsessed!

[@easttowest5984]

No one could have played this part like Jack Nicholson. Great summations on both in this video.

[@Goodenough_media]

Im glad that you realized we wanted longer episodes:)

[@Coldwarfudd]

Jack Torrance and Delbert grady in the restroom is definitely the best scene in this movie

[@jerrygoodwin4077]

Probably one of the best in horror period.

[@MaidenUtah1]

Phillip Stone’s transition from servile politeness to the sinister was masterful.

[@Coldwarfudd]

@@MaidenUtah1 indeed, sire…..

[@daniell1483]

It is such a pleasure to hear your analysis. There are so many symbolic elements in the movie that completely wen't over my head in the movie gets a lot of accurate analysis.