ANALYZING THE FRENCH GRAND FINALS AND HOW TO COUNTER WHAT HAPPENED

[@shy8170]

Happy thanksgiving 🍁🍽

[@AlanLiebheart]

This is why I love your content. You don't limit yourself to cry about the game being cheesy and you always look for logical solutions and counterplays no matter how impossible it seems.

[@Namefist11]

Does it hurt your feelings when people say a broken game is broken?

[@alwuhugaming]

@@Namefist11 i know this comment isnt directed at me, but you can both acknowledge a broken game and also try to figure out a way to give a fighting chance. Most creators talk about loving the game but just constantly trash on it and then that hurts the longevity of the game, but hey to each their own. I truly love the game so I find ways to deal with the silly stuff. At the end of the day, its not that serious to me to the point where I gotta get on video and scream my lungs out about it.

[@AlanLiebheart]

@@Namefist11 ? I've never denied the game is broken. I could write an essay of the amount of fixes I think this game needs. I just appreciate a content creator that keeps a cool logical mind, does more than just complaining and dogpiling on a game like 99% youtubers do and instead gets solutions to avoid the stuff that happened in the french tournament. Learn reading comprehension.

[@discrete2736]

he for sure has a great outlook on it, but bro if this shit is happening in the highest level of play, thers an issue lmao call it what it is

[@dokethakushite7400]

@@Namefist11bro wtf you want him to say ?! That he hates the game and won’t play it and they should let the game die ? Cuz they’re only gonna fix it if there’s money in the game and ppl playing. So all y’all wanna do is complain ? I haven’t even gotten the game yet cuz Im waiting to see if they fix these things but I’m constantly watching content on the game and I’m gonna play it regardless! I DO appreciate ppl telling me how to counter the cheese cuz imma play regardless. Who does it help to call the game “broken” ??

[@cody_lit9280]

Do not analyze! It is futile

[@theebigmanupstairs]

bahahaaha

[@Jon_Heuss]

Guy's, the context is not "Hill was cheesing so shiryu gave him a taste of he's own medecin" They did an interview (in french) where they explain the context of the tournament, and long story short, they are friend IRL and play A LOT together, the thing is that they wanted to show bandai the problem of cheesy mech that you can do in the game rn, they don't like playing like that but atm it's the most optimal way to play if you want to win. Yes it's sad but it's bandai fault not the players. Fun fact, when they did the infinite dashing around and the staff of the tournament decided to hide the gameplay to try to find a solution, Shiryu and Hill where still playing and shiryu won the first game but they came back and said to them that they had to replay the game but if one of them use the cheesy mech they will be both disqualified. The thing is, in the rules of the tourney, if you win you can't change you're team ( remember shiryu won) so the only person that can change he's team is Hilliasteur, so Hill had 2 choices: -1 keep the same team, play the same way and they get both disqualified 2-Change team and accept that it's a 100% chance too loose So yeah that was a wild tournament guy's 😂

[@rikiponcho]

@@Jon_Heuss that makes more sense, but still it mustve been awful for the other players trying to win, Shiryu the entire torney was playing fair and Hill was just climbing his way through the torney as it may seem. Were still grateful for what they did in the end, we all just want a better game

[@el-low6663]

​@rikiponcho their fault for going into the tournament with such a lack of knowledge on the game, or complained to bandai about the lack of rules of the tournament

[@rikiponcho]

@@el-low6663 yes this is why shiryu winning made it more satisfying

[@Jon_Heuss]

@ yeah i agree it must've been awful but sadly it's the state of the game at high level 😕 Hill and shiryu also said that they're pretty happy that the dbz sparking community is talking a lot about what they did cuz Bandai can't avoid it now

[@rikiponcho]

@@Jon_Heuss that seems to be a state of high lvl play due to 2 character archetypes with broken mechanics, which could be easily fixed. Its up to bandai whatever, if they dont address swordie dash or infinite dragon dash we have a huge problem on our hands

[@kin19yo]

I listened to the interview of the 2 french players and they said they played like that because it's the meta and it is the state of the game right now. They knew eachother would play this comp in finals so the "only" way to win for them was to play the same comp. Also they had like 500+ games together before the tournament. One of them also said they had an advantage over the other players playing the trunks and cyborgs meta, like they we're one step ahead. The interviewer also said something like "So 3 guys on their couch are more aware of the state of the game then the devs" and i feel like that's true! And also, apparently some players we're using capsules bug during the tournament. You can see it when a player switched to C17 in the semi-finals that's all i'll say. If BANDAI doesn't give us some improvement they really don't give a ****!

[@alwuhugaming]

Yeah… same can be said for me hahah. It seems I know way more issues about the game than the devs. It’s kinda insane.

[@kin19yo]

@@alwuhugaming Absolutely

[@kamaripeart1768]

Btw the way stepping vanishing works is if base trunks/Tapion start the vanishing war, then they can step. Whereas super saiyan can do it if the opponent starts the vanish war.

[@HazelVam]

zamasu can also do it!

[@ChaseR206]

@@HazelVamuh no…?

[@discrete2736]

@@ChaseR206 zamasu can do it as well

[@ChaseR206]

@@discrete2736 pretty sure he can’t

[@Maixxe]

@@ChaseR206chaser they giving us sauce bro, listen

[@DevMfWalker]

If someone is doing that elevator bull crap, you can also do the move where you dragon dash and press Y after to hit them because that tracks and locks onto the enemy when you do it.

[@aboladipo6585]

That is a really good point lol

[@Rxfi_17]

really gutted you couldn’t enter i would have rooted for u ✊🏻

[@swagkidd35]

U r the reason i run sets. Respect 🙏

[@advocate_of_HAKAI]

FINALLY someone who isn't just bitching and moaning because they just plain suck at the game. Massive respect to you for knowing your stuff, my friend. Would love to run some sets with you someday.🗿💪🏻

[@alwuhugaming]

If you’re on PC 😎

[@advocate_of_HAKAI]

@alwuhugaming when our lord Gaben hands us a big enough discount, I will be😂 on PS5 for now

[@michaeljean5]

He’s back! 🔥

[@alwuhugaming]

ALWAYS BACK YESSIRRR

[@stokely7460]

Perfect example of don’t hate the player hate the game

[@phantoomart699]

Amazing work, finally someone who actually do their research before posting stuff. I've seen so many misinformation. Hate that the "counter play" is not a counterplay though, like you said it they just ascend to the top and will just do the trunks strat of unblockable charge ki blast or the likes. You can tell this game was not tested because there is no way this kind of shit is intended, hell the way revenger counter use is not even intended, the tutorial states it's used to break combo. This game did not get tested, this game did not get prototyped. This game is not ready for anything.

[@brandonsupreme8380]

😂😂😂😂 the game is in the end another one of scamco cashgrab games they never test shit and ppl are so dumb af and buy this game even thought they know its a bandai game

[@93rwolf]

dragon dash charged smash any direction stops v dash every time

[@phantoomart699]

@@brandonsupreme8380 facts

[@LiderZafir]

u are the best content creator in sparking maboy

[@Smoji069]

You are the only sparking zero KZbinr I believe in. Every other one acts like such a child it is impossible to tolerate them. They never grew up after Budakai Tenkaiichi 3. After watching the French tournament my first thought was, “why did no one bring a giant?” I think that the game and honestly most of the players need more time to develop. They’re not even trying to learn to adapt. Happy Thanksgiving 🍗💪🏾

[@tankdgamer]

it's deffo the players.. the game sure can do with some ironing out but most players aren't willing to explore and just copy what they see online.

[@alwuhugaming]

Happy Thanksgiving!! :)

[@xeibei4804]

I think this game wont have a very long and good professionel competetitive scene. The fact the people hosting the tournament know less of the guy than you its just insane. Its time for you to be a commentetor

[@crusade6918]

game journalist disease

[@RosuVT]

The android 19 and gero thing is 100% unintended, no shot that they knew they could infinitely dash up and down

[@potheadraccoon8536]

even if it isnt on purpose only stuff like that makes bottom of the barrel companies like bandai pay attention man

[@RedMoonLoop]

It's on purpose. They just didn't play test it to know it could be abused. It's not an exploit bug or glitch It's mechanics working as intended

[@RosuVT]

@@RedMoonLoop thats by definition by incompetence, not purposeful

[@RedMoonLoop]

Well depends on what you are focusing on. Androids being able to fly infinitely is definitely purposeful. Flight being used to avoid and stall for time is definitely purposeful. The combination of the 2 is therefore intended as well.

[@xdragonx4205]

You obviously don't know what the definition of intended is or purposeful ​@@RedMoonLoop

[@PurplexKami-d6f]

I agree with the not having a tournament that is on this game, being so young, and I also agree that this is a great opportunity to show the developers what cant be defended against in this game, maybe(I hope) this well be very informative for what could be fixed in the update given it is coming after this tournament

[@chancemoreno7831]

Thank you for making this video Alan! As someone who plays 2 giants (toxic, I know) your response to androids cheese was exactly what I was thinking! Also wanted request if you could ANALYZE 💪🏻💪🏼 lord Freiza in Z form I think he has a lot of potential from his transformations and full power form unblockables.

[@randomasiandude2631]

i support what u do man!

[@PZMKSD]

You’re literally the best Sparking zero creator!! At least the smartest 🎉

[@DKing-du6xr]

Not spending ki on dashes is not the issue for androids. The real issue is the targeting problem. In BT3, a dash will take you to your opponent, even while they’re moving to another space. In this game, it only takes you to where they were when you first dashed, and the rest does not follow. If they fix that, and reduce how OP ultimates are, and also something against the vanish wars, the game can be very good and competitive.

[@rikiponcho]

The context was that Hill was cheesing like that in the lower brackets, so Shiryu out of spite gave Hill a taste of his own medicine Edit: "out of spite" may not have been what happened but still, cheeser got cheesed and lost in an unfair matchup due to Bandai. But lets be real bro was cheesing the entire run, you can send a message but not agaisnt clueless players🤣

[@rikiponcho]

It was so satisfying to watch

[@alwuhugaming]

ah, thank you for this. makes sense. theres so many different rumors floating around. the most popular one being they were both in on it.. i didnt care to speculate too much just wanted to talk about how to deal with something like this haha

[@Sirjesterx]

Hilli was absolutely cheesing in the semifinals too. If u saw the fight between Hilli and SiimBa, you'd be rooting for shiryu too

[@rikiponcho]

@@Sirjesterx Thats the first thing I saw when I joined the stream, absolutely disgusting, Simba even quit playing cause of Hill

[@el-low6663]

Hillister and shiryu are friends and played more than 500 games together. They had an interview on a French player's channel where they explained everything. Yall talking about cheese like money isn't on the line. Bandai did a poor choice when creating this tournament without banning anything, compared to non official tournaments which almost always banned all androids and other characters because they were aware of the cheese, but not in the official Bandai namco tournament. Hilliaster and shiryu both showed how to optimally play the game in this current state, to show Bandai their game is a mess and because they wanted to win for the free LA trip and the cash prize. Talking about "oh but, he's cheesing, he has no honor" in such a context really shows how clueless yall are. Anyone would use legal ways to get money if they could, don't try and act better than you are.

[@rhett3185]

ALWUHU PLEASE READ: Sparking Zero Changes I'd make: - vanish wars: this has to stop, it shouldn't be whoever has the most ki at the start of the war that wins afrer both characters accumulate a massive amount of skill points through vanishing. I don't want the vanishes to get incrementally harder each vanish, I want them to end after 3-6 vanishes (each character vanishes 3 times example). after this, they enter a vanish or dashing clash, where the real winner of this engagement gets to knock the opponent back to Neutral, and not far away into another infinite vanish war. Certain characters should also cost more ki to vanish such as giants and brawler archetypes. - Revenge counter should work from behind as well. Right now the only ways to get out of backshots relaibly is super counter, a hard input that can be spammed, or some characters that have explosive wave, or timing a vanish dodge on a enemy heavy. Revenge counter is not meant to be a combo breaker, it's actually a fight prolonger or secondary engagement tool. People use revenge counter to keep the fight going, such as stopping a enemy character from knocking them back and then transforming/ulting/swapping etc. But it should still work from behind, there's no reason why it shouldn't, it costs 2 skill points and is still risky if the enemy counters it or ignores it and continues fighting (but now they'll be fighting the front side giving more opportunities to perception, and block) - Unblockable Ultimates should break through block, but should still be super perceptioned. Many supers in the game already can be both blocked and perceptioned, many 'unblockable' ults in DBZ itself have been deflected. If the player being ulted has enough skill points (again crucial resource to watch for and manage), and perceptions before the ult lands, it SHOULD deflect it like every other ult. Rush and grab supers should be what breaks through someone perceptioning, not ki based ults and blasts. Barrages and Super Explosive Wave (aoe and scatter supers) shouldn't be perceptioned because that's a different thing altogether with their own counter play in place. Avoid being near the explosive super, and simply dodge or block the barrage supers. - Androids should absolutely be 'nerfed'. No ki during dragon dashing is simply stupid, if anything it should stop ki recharging at the very least, but imo and to be fair to android players, the ki cost should just be the most reduced out of all characters (it should still cost ki to fly). Another thing, certain androids such as 19 and 20 and maybe Cell/Semi-Perfect cell should charge skill points slightly slower. False Courage costing 1 skill point is simply too easy for them to get to and abuse, so if this is their game plan, to use False Courage for the hyper armour, and then spam grabs to steal health/ki, then their should be a secondary penalty for that, with counter-play. - Giants have to be slightly reworked, especially their dashing attacks, and certain costs of Giants (Dr Wheelo being absurd at 4 DP). they should all be at or above 5 dp imo, especially if they have unblockables or instant sparking skills. But that's it really, the counter-play to Giants is using 7 dp characters in melee, or zoning them out with characters with cheap spammable supers at range, or abusing the arena and their size. Maybe another chaneg that would be fair, would be to specifically increase the switch time for all giants, meaning, if you intend to use a giant character it should be a tough decision since you may not be able to switch out to recover health or avoid its own counters (such as 7 DP characters). - Hyper armour is insane and annoying and a bs mechanic in every game I stand by this fact 100% 1000%. But I understand that brawler and giant archetypes literally revolve around this, so my olive branch is this. Instant Sparking skills should be able to be stopped by at least DP level 5 characters and above with standard ki blasts. There's something just completely wrong about Z Broly eg where they can stock skill points, and simply charge/spam instant sparking for the purposes of not engaging with any of the core mechanics of the game. It's not even a fighting game at this point, it's a unblockable spam horror simulator that I "imagine" is not even that fun for the Broly-type players. But it's certainly not fun for the regular players, who may not even know to keep pressure on these types of characters (somehow keep them from accumulating points, and knocking you away so that they can transform and almost invulnerable). - Afterimage strike. Super Vegito shouldn't have it. Also, if Super Vegito HAS to have it, then make it so it can only dodge something like 10 attacks. It's certainly coutner-able and not as OP as initially thought, but only because most characters who have it, are LOW DP, and they NEED it to stand a chance against much more powerful enemies that can easily beat them down. Super Vegito is NOT a low DP character. He should have wild sense imo, but if it must stay, then change afterimage strike mechanically like that (this is more of a nerf to low dp characters which is why Im personally more for just changing Super Vegito and other high DP characters who might have Afterimage Strike). - Health. Certain low dp brawler types actually have too much health for their cost (Reccoome, spopovich, there are others I'm sure). They have more health at 3 DP than characters around 7 DP. No. Just no. They should have more health than the avg 3-4dp character but not like 4 or whatever health stocks. Admittedly this is not as bad as it may seem, there's still mechanical counter-play to this, but imo and a few others it just feels wrong, and can lead to the dreaded "time-out" games. The main issue here is using this in conjunction with switching mechanic, they cost so little and have so much health that they can almost effectively recover off of each other whilst whittling down the opponent.

[@foxyshibata3783]

I feel like them not using Ki to dash was definitely intended, as a 'Compensation' to the way 19 and 20 can ONLY gain Ki through combos and grabs, but they didn't anticipate the sheer strength of just Dashing up and down in general. I don't think they envisioned people dashing up and down like this in general, let alone Androids doing it with their infinite ki. Even without the incredible strength of dashing like this, I do think 19 and 20 should get their free ki dash removed, since, the succ grab is more than strong enough to compensate on it's own.

[@Rodrigo24717]

I'd say the fighting in this game is nearly perfect. Most cheese does not work if you know how to actually combo and vanish, but that being said. The cheese works because of lag. Lag lag lag and also the ease of Z counters or super counter the Square up one.

[@Midnightchezpuf]

@1:40 This is what I've been saying, in Competitive Call of Duty in the beginning everything was cheese people were using LMGs, Shotguns in SnD, claymores, everything. Over the years we started banning shit and getting more advanced with analyzing gameplay and weapons etc. Now LMGs and Shotguns are completely banned, and a lot of other rules especially for game breaking mechanics like snaking. In the beginning of every call of duty game there's a pre-season so that everyone can find out what works best in the new game, learn the maps, be aware of glitches etc. with the huge gap between Bt3 and Sparking Zero it should have been expected that the game was not going to be perfect competition wise. As a community it's our responsibility to get them to add certain things to the game. Like for ranked mode there needs to be a way to ban your opponent from choosing a character that you don't want to play against and you only get matched with players that banned the same character or something like that. They also need to add no supers/ultimates mode potentially, and things like trunks roll need to be banned, you should only be able to go sparking 2 times before a character has ki sickness, during that time their ki and skill stocks should regain at .5 rate or something like that. There's so many ways they can fix it to be more competitive but it's still so early for a game that was in development for quite a bit.

[@alwuhugaming]

Based COD reference. COD is a good example of competitive scene in a broken game

[@Ugur6626]

There is an interview of two finalist in french on KZbin They say it’s not a message, it’s the optimal way to play the game And for the next tournament, shisheu say Goku IU have the more broken and cheese mécanique in game and nobody knows it until he use them in next tournament

[@vChesterr]

I really wish you were competing to the tournament, you would've probably won the qualification for sure

[@LokiBeckonswow]

been seeing people say that the game isn't competitive, so there shouldn't be competitions or fixes/nerfs - this is clearly insane, this game is unbelievably competitive - it might not be perfect, but this is by far my favourite gameplay system - I'll never play another fighting/arena/shooter because their gameplay is boring af compared to sparking zero I think it could get some real nice fixes, like nerfing the broken sruff (afterimage strike, androids infinite dragon dash etc), and speeding up vanish wars etc to stop the tedious gameplay loops - but aside from this, this game is near perfect imo and deserves to get the fixes necessary to provide a genuine landscape for competitive play - that or just ban the broken shid from competitions like every other game LOL

[@alwuhugaming]

100% agreed. Even if it’s unbalanced, all that matters for a competitive scene is there are people willing to compete in it haha. Idk why there’s such a loyal hatred towards sparking

[@ZJrdnZ]

Literally like man there is ranked mode and they are hosting whole tournaments this shit is competitive. But that aside, how long do yall think it will take them to add more customization?

[@kamaripeart1768]

Another thing if you're both on the ground as a giant hold down and attack if they're above hold up and attack. You have to aim your punches for some reason.

[@1svara9999]

The best with another amazing video thank you

[@jayb6247]

Giants have a “low” rush chain using (o) on PlayStation on standard controls instead of Square to attack

[@tankdgamer]

there are counterplay to everything in the game, some harder than others for some people.. this does not mean things need 2 be nerfed. especially when it's punishable.. the problem the community don't understand is by changing 1 character archetype, The demand would be to change every other achetypes afterwards.. this same outcome would have occurred if in the finals someone chose 5 saibamen vs 5 giants. then people would be asking to take away super armour from giants since weaker characters have a harder time dealing with them. or pehaps players would ask to nerf sword characters because they have advantage to z wars nerf health regen transformations because you can win just by overall health even though your opponent did more damage to you nerf saiyan transformations because you can go from a dp 5 character all the way to a dp 9 nerf max ki transformations because you can combo supers more effectively nerf ss4 gogeta damage because you can take out teams fast before they have time 2 switch nerf bardock because he has insta ultra spark nerf unblockables because some people find it hard to dodge buff hercule so other characters flinch to make it fair nerf after image strike because your opponent can avoid most of your attacks and so on.. the list goes on This game design is like rock paper scissors, each characters have unique abilities, some characters strengths work best against others. if you go into DP battle it's down to the player to balance out their own team. and know how to counter play your opponent, that's literally the whole point of the switch out mechanic Not complain to the dev because your last character is hercule against gogeta ss4.

[@argetlam93-official]

This is what people don't understand, everything has a counter, anyways i'm the first great ape baby on steam singles ( i guess, have not been playing last 4/5 days) and i get more countered from S ranks than Z ranks. If you are ever interested in doing a video like how to counter giants in deep let me know, im fresh on yt

[@r3gret2079]

The power of the troll is too strong for mere mortals.

[@Rafaatho]

31:03 you can hit characters on the ground. You use kicks. / low punches. If I’m not mistake it’s O ? On Standard controls. The giant will Attack low

[@DevMfWalker]

Heliaster was using a 4 man team ssj trunks, base trunks , spopaolvich, and another 2 dp unit. But even so he still should've won that last battle he had more health than the other guy from what I can see and remember.

[@alwuhugaming]

Very bad choice by him. Using SSJ Z Trunks as opposed to just using his Base form and then adding another character would’ve won him the game. Terrible team composition

[@DevMfWalker]

@@alwuhugaming yes I agree . That would've optimal . Idk why he didn't do that.

[@tendo_no_entiendo]

If the jump tech from budokai tenkiachi 3 was in the game you could spam unblockable jump ki blast from the ceiling of the map (the destructo disc variant) but also trunks should be able to with his unblockable sword charged ki blast. Of course that a bandaid solution but the up down strategy isn’t un-counterable but it is corny as hell. And the chip adds up land like 7 times and it’s damage that forces a switch. Edit: yeah I typed that out but then saw…this is way better (more toxic) than the ascend descend cheese I’ve seen online.

[@johnkisaragi5920]

you can swing at characters on the ground as giants if you hold backwards and rush attack

[@radicaIized]

I never had a problem with the cheesing because there was already a solution for it

[@AceMusubi]

Ever since seeing the contest format in the initial informational reveal, I knew something was unfortunately going to make a mess of it.

[@adrianpalafox5753]

I don't know if I'm late to the party with this info, but with giants and you're playing classic you hold back on the control stick to swing down instead of having your combos whiff. I think on standard you hold block while pressing punch to swing low

[@MikeKovac7]

I know the French final was trash, even if it was with the intention to bring to the dev's attention the problems with the game, but, could you also watch the finals from the other countries? Specially the one from the UK. I would love to get an analysis of all of the finals with your opinion on who did best and worst. I watched all the finals and the Mexico one was awful, the German was better and the UK tourney was the best overall, including the bracket fights. Also, it would be interesting to know what changes you think these tournaments should have from now. What characters should be banned or limits should be stablished if Bandai, for some reason, decided to do so.

[@alwuhugaming]

I can do that! I have a mexico & germany grand finals recorded but i never uploaded cuz it seemed meh lol. If the UK one is good, i'll definitely react to it!

[@sleepingsensei1970]

I always thought there would be a dp limit, Like 'this tourny is limited to dp7 characters only' and such

[@Armeezy1629]

You can hold b on Xbox or circle on PlayStation and your attacks will hit characters on the ground as a giant

[@PenrhynFob]

Dude seeing you and your brother having a FT5 would be epic

[@jtbucketsshorts2213]

Bro just started the lord slug meta

[@thedragon1363]

Z Rank giant main here, giants dont have perception so that button instead is a low attack and can hit on the ground. Grabs also should work but the angle needs to be right, they cant be directly under you

[@robolegit3300]

Not sure if u know but if u press circle instead of triangle for giant characters rush combos it does ground attacks so u can hit them when they are lower to the floor

[@alwuhugaming]

ooohhhh i did not know that... literally first time using giant characters yesterday HAHAH. Thank you for telling me that

[@robolegit3300]

@ no problem. I wanna see u succeed in this content creator world bro! I related to u with how u talked about fighting ur bro competitively in BT3. I was the same way tryna figure out the depth of each character😂 borderline nerdy, but I just love dragon ball!

[@liquid47]

The main thing I hope this tournament does is show off all the exploits to the devs

[@jman4825]

I need to see your opinions on the saibamen/7dp character team, it's so broken

[@Ainsworth41]

Hey, I wanted to let you know that giants can attack you if you're on the ground if you hold the down direction, while doing your rush attacks.

[@TheReZisTLust]

Isnt B (xbox) the move to do low hits and smack people while grounded as Giants?

[@Ivvilon]

It would make sense to me if they held this tournament to see what the highest level of play was like around the globe in a structured way to make actual, meaningful changes. Rather than making snap changes based off of random, ranked matches, they hold a no holds barred, anything goes tournament where they can see what crazy, cheesy stuff the competitive players have found and come up with. EDIT: Also, how crazy is it that these two guys who are really good friends IRL are able to come up with this plan, and go all the way to grand finals to put the plan into action. Like, they just knew that they would both be good enough and trusted one another to get all the way to the finals, lol.

[@k-slapz1339]

I believe Tapion is another character that has the same step in tech

[@lorencej9404]

I already said my main three is piccolo, Lord slug and garlic jr. And a random 3 do character. These are just characters people don't really play other than piccolo. But they have always been on my bucket list before this game came out.

[@calladus123]

i wanted garlics base form. hes pretty fun in super form though

[@M3turkz1]

if you press b instead of x as a giant you can hit characters on the floor

[@jman4825]

you can press circle/B to hit people on the ground as giants btw

[@Japr-eg4cb]

There’s actually another way without using giants, the dragon dash smash with the right timing you can cash them by surprise cause it tracks them

[@andrebaxter4023]

I think that those androids not consuming ki when they dragon dash is a bug. They should fix that.

[@emmanuelduvall7464]

You can hit people on the ground with giants by pressing perception

[@xeibei4804]

When will you analyze the French revolution

[@alwuhugaming]

ANALYZING THE FRENCH REVOLUTION: SPARKING ZERO STYLE

[@RosuVT]

Btw if you press B as a giant you aim to the ground so its easier to hit

[@cloudsurfer67]

I just hate having to choose a giant but you’re right we have no choice 😢

[@alwuhugaming]

@@cloudsurfer67 lord Slug in base form is really good! I have his giant form in the back pocket just in case haha

[@cloudsurfer67]

@@alwuhugaming I’ll try him out 🤔

[@finalageendtimesprophecys4210]

in the old sparking games when preforming a rush super or ultimate rush their was in most hard tracking and free movement. during the rush you did not go straight only some super rush moves where even unblock able.

[@alwuhugaming]

Yeah the tracking dragon dash smash attack (I’m unsure the terminology HAHA) in sparking is definitely not the greatest. I have seen people use it to counter people who “elevator” though… but it isn’t flawless. At least with giants, you can basically track them down easily… unless they’re at the highest point of the stage

[@aaronestevezxd]

@alwuhu When you play a giant you lose perception, and that button is instead used to hit low when the enemy is on the ground

[@sevenapollo6882]

I will stand by this, the guy that flat out said "I'm fighting seriously" should have been disqualified and not allowed to compete in any upcoming tournaments.

[@amedeoiermano]

Trunks step in can't possibly be an intended mechanic. He can do that dodge but MUI Goku can't? 🤣

[@alwuhugaming]

HAHAH guess Trunks had unlocked BEYOND MUI 😂😂

[@amedeoiermano]

@@alwuhugaming Yeah 😆 And the fact that other sword characters do the same it means they share the same "skeleton". Literally a copy and paste. And in programming when you paste, you paste the bugs too 🤣 It is a very rushed game, that's sad. Looking forward for next month patch

[@rriveror27]

If I’m a developer & I see u do this. I will forever black list you from future events.

[@kanopopo]

It’s not the player’s fault that the developers created a game that supports the cheese.

[@coco3584]

I Hope you never became a developer xd

[@reiben9916]

Don't blame the player, blame the game.

[@jaimeherrera1048]

I will absorb all of your energy 🤓

[@wooba1207]

Do you think Scouter Vegeta would be viable to counter this as well? His kit isn't as good as Slug's, but I like him more and he can also transform into Great Ape. Just curious if you think he could also work as a 4DP character.

[@alwuhugaming]

Yes!! Didn’t think of him, but he’s a very good counter as well for the same reasons.

[@Spirit_Zone7]

Definitely a viable option as I've been using scouter Vegeta in my recent teams. The androids become pretty helpless once I transform into great ape

[@emperador388]

In Smash Ultimate there is a rule to don't stale the match, it would be useful here.

[@gabemills7954]

Instant transmission can help with that dash stuff at the start not so much but if they’re still doing that anytime you get close wait till they go up hit instant transmission and you’ll land right on em it isn’t consistent enough though and it’s expensive to use but if you’re getting the dash spammers frequently it’s a nice Hail Mary to use sometimes and then you can keep ‘em locked into true combos and it’s over

[@gabemills7954]

And I know spamming true combos is cheese but listen if they get away they will go right back to dash ascending and descending so you have to punish them when you get that opportunity

[@shoking2677]

Another way to stop the android cheese with non giants is to do a dragon smash. If you time it when they're close enough, your character will lock on and track them. Zyken has a video showcasing it.

[@Majd-pf9id]

Nice that u talk normally about it not like the others who just crying about it, I searched for a game in ranked and slept by mistake and lost 4000 points went from top16 to 62😅

[@alexg2447]

Really wished you would’ve been in the qualifiers 🤧

[@masrurmac443]

Cant you go to the battle hour qualifiers later?

[@ringzy]

Btw ur a sparking zero genius fr. These counters may not be perfect counter plays to the cheese but they really are literally the next best thing

[@el-low6663]

The best counter is playing the same team unfortunately. You get a lot more chances at beating someone in a mirror match up than a counter team since they'll probably get used to it and abuse trunks charged ki blast against the giants

[@amedeoiermano]

I understand your counter-strategy, but do the players know in advance which team the opponent is selecting? Additionally, being restricted to specific characters to counter the cheese undermines the entire purpose of the tournament.

[@alwuhugaming]

If you lose a match, you are allowed to change your team, and I’m sure they seen each others matches before the grand finals so they had time to craft up a counter

[@amedeoiermano]

@@alwuhugaming Ok, that seems fair. Still being forced to use some characters is no fun. I understand the meta thing but the game has more than 180 characters and we are forced to use 1/3 of them at best...

[@BobBob-zt4od]

Giants can hit grounded enemies with circle or the perception input

[@InuPlays]

is it really the amount of hp left at the end? Because it feels like it's percentage of the total hp left that is the winning condition?

[@alwuhugaming]

I’m unsure of what exactly is the win condition at the time up unfortunately. But the Trunks main had a 4 man team and that is a severe disadvantage. He made a bad decision with playing with SSJ Z Trunks instead of just choosing his base form. Had he chose base Z Trunks he’d have room for another 2DP character and thus could’ve won that 2nd match

[@chibinya]

They tweeted that they DQed these two players earlier today (or last night). Seems kinda unfair, especially for Hiliaster who tried to fight after the first round.

[@alwuhugaming]

I saw. I will be speaking on it. Very unfair. Yes what they did can be seen as disrespectful and embarrassing but it’s not breaking rules

[@warzip1581]

I was doing this to beat bots in history mode in tenkaichi 2 and 3 15 years ago lmao why are people surprised. And when I go against after image strike just spam r1 and r2 for 15 seconds

[@k-slapz1339]

They should make Trunks step in mechanic for all characters that will solve the vanish wars

[@alwuhugaming]

@@k-slapz1339 would be a good idea if you can block the combo. Otherwise it makes super countering pointless because you’ll be punished for it

[@k-slapz1339]

@@alwuhugaming That should be a good thing tho to prevent players from vanish wars

[@awfulknight3344]

Hi!! Love the vids, wanted to ask about my DP team and what I could do to improve my lineup. I play with this lineup. Much love! -Yamcha -Base Adult Gohan -Turles -And this last slot I move around a bit, sometimes Android 19, sometimes Bardock, depends on how I'm feeling.

[@Bigolcheese]

DID YOU DO YOUR PUSHUPS TODAY???

[@alwuhugaming]

NO SIR BUT THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME

[@michaelgarza2569]

Did you know that SSJ 1 adult gohan ultimate is unblockable? Bros Kamehamha

[@zombiehater6547]

19:00 something about the way time out winners are decided should change imo. You shouldn't be set to win by default from the beginning if you have more characters than your opponent and stall like that. It should be based on team health percentage and not overall team health. That way the person who actually dealt more damage to their opponent than their opponent did to them will be much more set to win. Edit: I dont think this is a perfect solution. People who choose more characters will still have an advantage since their THP will go down slower because they have more characters. But at least it'll be a situation where the guy who chooses to have more on their team will lose them faster because a few have to be low dp and struggle to down higher dp characters.

[@alwuhugaming]

@@zombiehater6547 the balancing idea behind it is that if you have less characters on your team then that means you probably have some strong characters. I realized the competitor is using SSJ Z Trunks instead of just Base Trunks and then he could’ve fit another 2 DP character had he just used Base Z Trunks. Terrible team composition and that’s on him regardless if the time out decision is balanced or not. 4 man teams are capable of having SS4 Gogeta and using a 4 man team with SSJ Z Trunks being the highest DP character with no further potential in him is terrible. He lost the game moreso due to his decision on team composition.

[@zkatom3773]

What can I say, the French are notorious for their unique ways of protesting lol.

[@chrissotrill]

I just want them to add a ready set go , in the beginning of the match . Not asking for much

[@rikiponcho]

News dropped, both Hilli and Shiryu got DQ'ed today

[@alwuhugaming]

Yup I saw. Very unfair especially considering it’s not like they cheated. Yes, it’s embarrassing for Sparking Zero but being embarrassed is not against the rules

[@kamaripeart1768]

I just use giant slug to beat these android. One of them rage quited today.

[@mahmud7645]

I rewired my self to enjoy getting rage quitted on

[@wichiewamirez5599]

As much as people don’t like it, right now it’s part of the game.

[@cloudsurfer67]

Analyzation series

[@davidtrezeguet1467]

isn't it your strongest setup of you've ever played in your channel?

[@Gargosfragvideos]

At some point you were talkin about giants not able to hit ppl on the ground. Thats not true since you can spam circle button on ps5 and it hits downwards. I also met some giant players that kept using charged attacks and spammin em while being on the ground and THAT is broken (each hit is 5k dmg). I will be using lord slug from now on to compete android cheese lmao

[@alwuhugaming]

Yeah that’s my bad… that’s how you know I don’t use giants at all 😭😭 I used them for a few games and thought it wasn’t possible to hit grounded opponents 💀

[@ChaseR206]

They didn’t tell hilli to change characters. They told him to play serious and he took that as changing characters

[@alwuhugaming]

Ah didn’t know. I’m dumb for listening to unconfirmed rumors lol

[@Soda09865]

Are you going to do a video about? Pan glitch

[@Littleolmoybi]

as a giant press perception to hit on the floor... at least on standard