DA.must clean home affairs Nigerians are doing as they wish there
@YT-xk5jl3 ай бұрын
In your dreams. The DA said it will put the so called “foreigners” into the workforce
@truth-Hurts3753 ай бұрын
Why the DOMKOP WHITE DA ???? what's wrong with the PA ???? Did Matric Domkop John Steenhuisen ever visited any boarder ??? No !!!
@fredbantu36943 ай бұрын
Who is allowing them South africans. Why are South africans acting like they arent in charge.
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
I wish to hold your hand for that 🎉
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
@@fredbantu3694because they like money 💵 too much that is why sa is a mess
@antoinettelerouxauthor25383 ай бұрын
It's time for Rama to be cut to size. He should begin to realise that ANC has lost its majority and that he now has to work with other parties...
@nhlanhlamahlangu28953 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 D.A has no choice but to dance to this music which they don't understand unfortunately failure to do that ANC will look to the left then will nationalize the *sea*
@sandilemfeka46583 ай бұрын
Remember this, the DA is not the reason the ANC lost the majority.
@mkeyter13 ай бұрын
Rama is a Oppenheimer puppet, just like DA and IFP
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
The cabinet ministers will still be held to account to the GNU. The ANC are struggling to accept that they are no longer that popular. 10 years ago it would have been inconceivable to think that black voters would walk away and vote for other parties. The NEC is wanting to behave as if they still have a majority. Struggling with the new reality.
@simphiwebuthelezi50223 ай бұрын
Point of correction we are not black, but we are AFRICANS 😂😂
@Shakes-uq8cl3 ай бұрын
Noble truth.
@user-1gugu63253 ай бұрын
They may not have the 50+ majority but they still have more numbers that the DA. Also let's not pretend as DA was going to accept these demands if tables were turned.
@beewest57043 ай бұрын
They should have seen this coming. Zille has been planning this for years. How did the ANC sleep on it? ARROGANCY is their downfall!
@elizabethandrsu3693 ай бұрын
@@simphiwebuthelezi5022I am black and proud and I am an African and I am not a racist .
@klopjag2b3 ай бұрын
The anc still don't understand that they are not in charge anymore we are tired of them! Next election anc will do even worse!
@user-Jzc07lwand3 ай бұрын
no, we are not.
@NormanMagubane3 ай бұрын
Shame we are not
@nthabibotsi98553 ай бұрын
Even if you are tired of the ANC, the DA must not think they can call the shots with their 20% as well. They are rediculous
@babalonelson88403 ай бұрын
Is the DA in charge???
@louisvanderwalt7163 ай бұрын
@@nthabibotsi9855no political party can call the shots alone because no one did get 50%+ This is the first time in South Africa that we have a situation like this, so it is unknown territory for everybody It will be irresponsible for any one who think they have the only say in what should happen It is up to the politicians to find a way forward that will be in the interest of South Africa and the citizens
@imotumbokanaka41573 ай бұрын
the home affairs minister must go
@NormanMagubane3 ай бұрын
Why he won't go anywhere
@maurchesnyman39553 ай бұрын
You don't negotiate these matters face to face. You do everything on paper so that it is not then denied at a later point.
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
Remember the cultures and traditions involved. Enough said!
@shafiyaalgiquadra11053 ай бұрын
@@attievanwyk3561as dutch settlers we ought not resort to racism when we don't get our way, it makes us unsafe.
@thandazas_sil3 ай бұрын
@@attievanwyk3561 I don’t understand why you have to be racist. Is it not tiring to constantly hear that racism is wrong. Do you not think racism has done enough damage??
@truth-Hurts3753 ай бұрын
Really??? And you think there will be No Minutes Taken in all these meetings ???? What type of a Domkop are you ????
@truth-Hurts3753 ай бұрын
@@attievanwyk3561yes yes fack yes...The White Domkop DA are NOT a bunch of Racists !!!!
@Angela-pj9ed3 ай бұрын
ANC messed up in the past DA should be given a chance to what is best for the country DA is putting the country 1st DA is not in government for their own needs this the reason so many South Africans have joined the DA this year the people has out their faith in DA DA will not fail their voters
@rayfevermontsh5493 ай бұрын
Why can't it start with the people of Khayelisha, Gugulethu and coloured dominated areas in the western cape 🤷♂️🤷♂️its been running Western Cape for more than 10 years but the black people in that province arw treated like second hand citizens..
@gothicking62013 ай бұрын
I honestly think this is a publicity stunt to control the negative critics ANC has been receiving, 'to be having no back-bone'
@outclasstours13423 ай бұрын
Quite interesting that now Cyril is now dealing directly with John and for the first time the ANC correspondence is leaked and it so happenes that he is reading the riot act.
@menzimngadi67933 ай бұрын
These are my initial thoughts to.
@MzamoAdoons3723 ай бұрын
@@outclasstours1342it's possible that the ANC leaked both the documents
@Cuewill3 ай бұрын
These two guys are not making any point here
@KyleBenzien3 ай бұрын
lol
@brianraliphaswa52203 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@JeshuaOurGod3 ай бұрын
Lots of talk but no real substance😂😂
@jeanettevorster92933 ай бұрын
To me it is as if the DA is scared that things will not benefit South Africa and it's people. Better to share One or two better positions to help South Africa to grow instead of going more down. I also think of times of Dingaan . Makes me scared😮.
@SonOfTheSoil8343 ай бұрын
DA never thought about South Africans .always thinking about the markets and this is clear to anyone …this a party that seek to adress issues faced by minority
@kg74873 ай бұрын
It's not DA arrogance. The penny has not dropped yet with the ANC that they don't have a majority anymore. That is arrogance. All the years of corruption without consequences is arrogance. The DA is sticking to principle. they kept their part of the bargain and voted SSSSSSSSyril and the speaker in. The ANC does not understand that concept. That is arrogance. Taking things personally is arrogance. Just serve the people and put your arrogance/ego aside ANC.
@Meh----bleh443 ай бұрын
💯
@t.mblock86583 ай бұрын
At the end of the day ANC can still get majority without the DA. Should they swap out DA for EFF and keep the smaller parties that's more than the 50+% needed to govern. They're over playing their hand. This could back fire and it'll be their own fault
@gavinsaunders89973 ай бұрын
Spot on. The ANC don't know diddly shit hence the reason this government is as broken. Now they crying about giving people who are capable of turning this county around a bad hand. Pathetic.
@nonjikocyril42743 ай бұрын
You not gonna come here and talk kak yourself,they are not even capable of making life here in Cape Town townships better for blacks and coloureds better,the worst city on gangsterism ok in SA.Spare us the "capable" BS about DA!! They see for their own(whites)
@unathimichaelmxaku81053 ай бұрын
What does the DA know except silent apartheid here in the WC.I won't be suprised to see the sign whites only in Sea point and Camps bay in future.
@corneliacoetz2433 ай бұрын
Dont blame all on the DA as usual. They are very well experienced to get this Country and problems sorted as what citizens want!
@JosephStroebel3 ай бұрын
DA undermine blacks and they only know how to enslave them and the perception that they know how to do the finance position will be to give blacks jobs with meager pay and poor blacks will worship them for a job(bull shit)
@bluecouchpodcast243 ай бұрын
Running a province and Running the country are two different things
@goatg15743 ай бұрын
25 yrs past with no forward steps.Criminals rule SA currently.If the head had any will he should give attention to assistance from the DA to make SA great again.
@nthabibotsi98553 ай бұрын
That 25 yrs is a drop in an ocean as compared to the period apartheid regime done
@nonjikocyril42743 ай бұрын
Did we have forward steps before that? For who? Elaborate please
@BrotherM19783 ай бұрын
Gugulethu, Khayelisha, Danoon, Cape Flats etc also think are stealing their tax money and giving it to the WHITES 😂😂😂
@JeshuaOurGod3 ай бұрын
Whilst these politicians argue like kids over a candy bar, we, the people, sit eagerly and wait for some kind of sanity or stability ....lets face it, our country is at a cross road! The ANC has had MORE than enough time to prove themselves, and they have FAILED! Step aside and give other parties a chance to govern in key positions! Zille must also calm down.
@nathanielpetersen84083 ай бұрын
Well done brother. You really invested heavily. Enjoy your space.
@fredlenz47433 ай бұрын
DA leave the GNU and call for an inquiry into Phala Phala, and for Ramaphosa's impeachment. The DA didn't renege on the agreement reached, Ramaphosa did.
@karelgericke91723 ай бұрын
Show us the agreement cyril.
@Tinker85313 ай бұрын
They already have 200 with small parties without the DA. I hate the DA but I would given trade to them, Home Office no way, they will bring in more cheap labour.
@karelgericke91723 ай бұрын
@@Tinker8531 LOL 😆 😂 🤣 😅 😄 you're are so confused like a camilion on a smarty box,cheap labor 🤣 😆 😄 😂 like what the p a and gayton brought in in knysna Beaufort west, laingsburg, that's why the pa supporters came back to the DA in the by election two weeks ago because the p a sucks.Now that's what you call cheap unskilled labor in municipality in these towns.
@innocentkunene94903 ай бұрын
Sorry not all those 200 will protect Cyril baba he must honour the agreement with the DA, IFP, FFPlus, PAC, PA@shanaazcloete8531
@MotlokwaThwii3 ай бұрын
@@fredlenz4743 Even if Ramaphosa leaves, it doesn't take ANC's 40%. It just means another ANC leader will be President with the help of the Progressive caucus🤷🏾♂️
@SM-mb5kq3 ай бұрын
Lol. It's funny that Rhamposa has never been this "firm" against the Zuma faction within the ANC. DA should just withdraw and Rhamposa can deal with the consequences thereafter
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
Wise thoughts. You can take a horse to the water, but you cannot make him drink!
@user-1gugu63253 ай бұрын
Another option is for the ANC to go on opposition benches.
@jimmycricket53663 ай бұрын
@@attievanwyk3561The phala phallus is hanging over Cyril! Also they know the Rand and the economy in general will collapse utterly if this GNU fails. It's a no-brainer.
@shafiyaalgiquadra11053 ай бұрын
The dutch settler needs a firm hand on the tiller else they will steal you out of house and home.
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
I like it and that's true 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤
@janettaylor19433 ай бұрын
Tired of nothing working in this country!!!!
@saamstaan65403 ай бұрын
😂😂😂did you really think things would change?😂😂
@janettaylor19433 ай бұрын
@@saamstaan6540 It must change.
@saamstaan65403 ай бұрын
@janettaylor1943 it must...but won't,not without a fight.
@peterbrigden21243 ай бұрын
Everyone knew this was going to happen, you just can't trust anyone in this ANC Mafia..?😈😈💯💯💯
@fanamlawuli67613 ай бұрын
Australia is waiting for you 😂
@tokolosh64673 ай бұрын
40% party acting like it has 70% and treating a 22% party like it's 2%
@jessrealfortune66483 ай бұрын
40% is more than 20% so the DA must stay in its lane. The ANC can approach the mk party and give them a few portions to handle.
@scrunchy75283 ай бұрын
@@jessrealfortune6648What lane... They are only making moves... And decisions must be made... If not.. We will just continue with the same ANC nonsense policies which never worked... Its about getting to work and making hard decisions... Looks like the ANC can't deal
@JeshuaOurGod3 ай бұрын
ANC CAN NEVER BE TRUSTED. PERIOD
@jimmycricket53663 ай бұрын
Exactly! DA has a full one-third share in the GNU governance!
@tokolosh64673 ай бұрын
@@jessrealfortune6648 30% answer, "40% is more than 20%"
@Whackmac3 ай бұрын
ANC being the bully
@lindamanamela79983 ай бұрын
DA being the bully.
@jimmycricket53663 ай бұрын
@@lindamanamela7998How? The DA is right in this right now
@JeshuaOurGod3 ай бұрын
ANC HAD ENOUGH CHANCES, AND RUINED SA TO SUCH A POINT OF NO RETURN
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
Yoh mara that is true
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
@@JeshuaOurGodnje
@thomasgosling51553 ай бұрын
Cyril must understand the only reason he’s president is because of the deal he signed with the DA, he now has to honour that deal. Well done DA.
@lindamanamela79983 ай бұрын
DA is taking advantage . Let them go away empty handed. ANC + MK + EFF = PROGRESS as we move forward.
@corra_73 ай бұрын
@@lindamanamela7998you are wrong
@s.amusicent.3823 ай бұрын
Word
@saamstaan65403 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@thefairobserver973 ай бұрын
I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW. CR COULD HAD EASILY EMBARKED ON EFF PROPOSALS OF TAKING ONLY MINISTRY OF FINANCE OR THE SPEAKER POSITION. NOW CR IS PAYING THE PRICE OF THAT WRONG DECISION.
@MkuluClive-ls5qj3 ай бұрын
The president appoints not the NEC. Do it and a😮ceed to the DA or impeachment will come rapidly.
@MotlokwaThwii3 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa is not an independent candidate. The NEC can still recall him.
@atang.pascalis.ramokhoa3 ай бұрын
Only asking for 8 positions is being too kind to the ANC. They deserve much more!!!
@MotlokwaThwii3 ай бұрын
They must win elections to get more😂
@thomasgosling51553 ай бұрын
@@MotlokwaThwiiThey won their fair share.
@MotlokwaThwii3 ай бұрын
@@thomasgosling5155 Fair share for what?? They can still go be official opposition. Noone owes them anything.
@Hb452h56d3 ай бұрын
Da cant even clean gangsterism in wc now they want to stop corruption.. 😂 Countrywide
@PennyPienaar3 ай бұрын
@@Hb452h56dwho is in charge of SAPS?
@jameskillu91713 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa is divisive, from splitting ANC into factions to GNU
@MissSlenda3 ай бұрын
Is it you again from Zimbabwe. And what is your president doing again in Zimbabwe. Give me Zimbabwe TV news, dont worry. I'll check it out myself . i want to go see if you are as active as you are on here.
@stanleytshwale12633 ай бұрын
This is the truth, DA want to arrest thieves and Ramaphosa is one of the thieves. So Ramaphosa could see that DA want to throw his crew under the bus.
@jobesithole55903 ай бұрын
Stop lying !! The DA has no interest in uncovering corruption. They've said it openly they won't support an inquiry let alone an impeachment into Phala Phala. The DA is a party that bends it's " principles " when it suits them. Its a party of opportunists.
@WIMS-Cardano-ud5rw3 ай бұрын
Key needs of Africa : Democracy, Unemployment, Crime, Education and above all Ubuntu
@not.likely3 ай бұрын
The ANC will never relinquish any ministry that allows them to generate side line funding. If they do they will lose economical control. In any event and ultimately, they will lose political control because the masses will finally see that they can't do the job and thst they will be better off under a new government
@innocenthapazari86993 ай бұрын
The problem is actually the ANC-few (CR, Mbalula etc) that negotiated a high stake-deal with DA without proper ANC mandate. So, it's just about the ANC Structures pushing back on the un-Sanctioned deal rather than DA being difficult.
@vanjansensilver3 ай бұрын
all the DA needs is Finance & Justice. that will sort everything out.
@SiphoMosea-df5hz3 ай бұрын
Divorce paper between DA n Ramaphosa. Its over guys its over. The main question to Inkatha and other parties is beniphapha niyaphi?????
@okey92363 ай бұрын
SOUTH AFRICANS SOUTH AFRICANS WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS PEOPLE WILL CHANGE....MANDELA IS TURNING IN HIS GRAVE....RIP BABA MANDELA
@User-.-_007-s3 ай бұрын
Da must withdraw ramaphosa will be fired masitile will form coalition with eff and mkp give malema home affairs land reform finance ministries mkp police defence national security let Sa be finished quickly 😂😂😂😂😂
@Dude-m4z3 ай бұрын
SA will do just fine without the DA.....😂😂😂😂
@0nmyOneS...3 ай бұрын
@@Dude-m4z inhaling on that copium pack lil bro, Womp Wooomp
@Vv-fl2rm3 ай бұрын
You are dreaming. DA must voetsek
@ninaosborne20043 ай бұрын
@@Dude-m4zJust as fine as they have been doing the past 30 years. A cesspool of corruption and poverty. A dirty broken down country.
@Vv-fl2rm3 ай бұрын
@@0nmyOneS...it can never be as strong as that potent cocain you are on 😂😂😂 snif snif 😊
@grootbaas91043 ай бұрын
The DA has done the right thing pushing for key positions in writing. If during the 5 years there's failure from AnC the DA can point to their written letter. If it was face to face verbal discussion s things can be denied not minutes accurately or to point if there are minutes AnC would probably want it informal discussions.
@Itssophie2773 ай бұрын
Eff can't run ministries.
@terryjones60693 ай бұрын
Money matters is what's happening now
@ronniewiseman76513 ай бұрын
Ware yalo?
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
Who is paying whom.....I missed that one!!
@JeshuaOurGod3 ай бұрын
ANC IS SCARED ITS NO LONGER GOING TO EAT
@politelyimpolite3 ай бұрын
LOL this GNU is going to fall apart sharp sharp
@SiphiweSithole-ne9tk3 ай бұрын
You wish
@shafiyaalgiquadra11053 ай бұрын
@@SiphiweSithole-ne9tkyes but this wish will come true.😊
@mrtdube54003 ай бұрын
Politicians are stupid people or they think people are stupid. Why vote if there's a chance of GNU. Why didn't those fools sit down first and talk than wasting our time fighting for positions?
@steveleroux61163 ай бұрын
On party is for law other party is for lawless 😅
@Joerhan233 ай бұрын
If only the ANC retained its majority to do as it pleases. Luckily for the country, they didn’t and the ANC and their supporters don’t get that. The DA should gets 9 ( 21.78% / 70% = 31% of the GNU ) and ANC should get 17 ( 40% / 70% = 57% of the GNU ) out of 30. Other GNU members 4 positions amongst them.
@nedor643 ай бұрын
The DA should pull out of this GNU it is not really worth it, the country is so fu..d you cannot save it let them destroy it further and keep on getting the WC independent.
@jimjacobs3163 ай бұрын
And they can pull out of SA ,also,it will mean alot to black SA
@SM-mb5kq3 ай бұрын
F*k u with your Cape Independence. I'm a DA voter and am not interested in independence. It's not even a DA goal nor mandate to sede from the rest of the country. You're free to vote for a secessionist party instead of trying to force DA to be pro independence.
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
What is WC???.......and I would really think carefully about :let them destroy it further". A really stupid and irresponsible statement to make.
@siyandasilinga29263 ай бұрын
WC is in South africa, not an island in EUROPE
@SM-mb5kq3 ай бұрын
You can go to hell with your Western Cape independence nonsense. Im a DA voter and have no interest in it. It's not even the DAs manifesto stated mandate to gain independence and they have stated it vehemently over the years. You're free to move to another country if you hate SA so much. The Cape will remain part of this country forever and there's nothing you irrelevant Cape secessionists can do about it
@sehularosiphiwe70433 ай бұрын
BBB-EE Will no longer be applicable
@atang.pascalis.ramokhoa3 ай бұрын
It did nothing for me
@Dubandlela13 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa canceled it long time ago
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
Not confirmed yet....but I surely hope so, because it had NO meaning or result!
@beewest57043 ай бұрын
It only ever benefitted whyt women & getting ANC cronies & their kids seats on boards.
@Meh----bleh443 ай бұрын
Thank you Jesus! 🙏
@CapeTownNick3 ай бұрын
call for a vote of no confidence into Rama, I want to see something
@johan19443 ай бұрын
DA @ MK @ VF MUST JOIN TOGETHER 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@goodmanmthiyane56113 ай бұрын
sorry MK will never sleep with the enemy ,try elsewhere
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
That would not work out in the long run. It would be just to cause chaos.
@jiwwo17993 ай бұрын
It's impossible since the DA said they don't want anything with the Mkp
@ZodwaMfuphi-bf3sg3 ай бұрын
MKP is not crazy
@rendaninemavhidi15543 ай бұрын
The DA seem to have thrown out all their purported principles out of the window. DA suggestions on DGs blur the party and state line, bloated cabinet no longer matters as long as it benefits them, Phalaphala can be swept under the carpet if the ANC deal is sweet enough. Does the DA still stand for anything??? Can this party be trusted?
@amosndabeni9343 ай бұрын
After these elections I just realized that politicians are all the same they speak this today then tomorrow they know how to change the statement and we keep on listening them and trust on what they are saying.
@jobesithole55903 ай бұрын
The DA is a party that supports corruption. To even think let alone engage the ANC- a criminal entity is horrifying. One shouldn't be shocked though. Politicians have never been people of integrity. They go where the wind blows. The DA is a perfect example.
@Otherlevel513 ай бұрын
I gave it 3 months. I was way to generous
@sphiwedlamini55923 ай бұрын
Sometimes i wonder if these letters are deliberately leacked.....to fool us....if not ramaphosa ddnt write that he doesn't hv balls, it must be the ANC NEC and made him sign.....
@nathimtshali43423 ай бұрын
It's too early for this drama😂😂 ANC asked for this, engage MK and EFF stop your pride and do the right thing
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
Oh my Lord, help prevent us from that EVIL. SA and its people will not survive such a catastrophe!!
@sibusisojoseph40253 ай бұрын
If the attention of DA is to take position instance of go to working for people of this Country to fix the situation it must be stand aside being ignored, we don't want them leading we want them work to fix problems of leading party together with other other party's independent so that next voting we can choose the right one according it performance for this we still not trust anyone they must working together interact, DA stop hushed it still early
@ianthomas78193 ай бұрын
Let's not forget Phala Phala and many more.
@PatrickRoberts-l6o3 ай бұрын
Why don't the ANC get out and let the DA govern because they gets thing's done
@bluecouchpodcast243 ай бұрын
Not in the Cape Flats and Tshwane
@jeanettevorster92933 ай бұрын
This lets me think, isthere nothing to hide? Why do i think this. Who is protecting who?
@mphothulo79293 ай бұрын
Marriage is over 😂😂😂 Zuma told us,wisdom is not school but to be truthful
@NobleCoward3 ай бұрын
Cracking the whip you say 😅😂
@boithaseleke79653 ай бұрын
Anc didn't get majority, what DA is asking for is reasonable, why should ANC retain more bcos they messed up everything, we need competence
@SphamandlaDlamini-v2d3 ай бұрын
Garden boy Cyril dithering. He will face revolt within his own party,the Zweli Mkhizes are busy in the background.
@chrisMchon3 ай бұрын
DA are so crazy
@pranks14573 ай бұрын
The government does not need to take care of every aspect of our lives. That is exactly what you don't want.
@xman15333 ай бұрын
DA is going to rule south Africa mark my words you like it or not there are so many break away parties from the ANC some of them don't even have intentions to rule SA
@FundiswaDyaba3 ай бұрын
It shall never Mark my word
@zingiswamdlela78053 ай бұрын
Quite now
@chapter93633 ай бұрын
😂😂😂DA wants the whole government 🙄 in return for giving ANC presidents position
@Xipalaje3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@ebenezermamabolo3 ай бұрын
They made their own bed 😂😂😂😂
@gordonMokone3 ай бұрын
I don't think this thing is that tense because if the DA becomes transactional like this then the ANC must just release them and focus on the parties that really wants to work together and find a way forward.
Ramaphosa is in the trouble and his ANC DA demand not say please 👏 no
@vincentndlovu89963 ай бұрын
Mr mbalula said " we don't anyone coming with big assignment" why it looks like double assignment now😮
@hgfku-tn6hb3 ай бұрын
ANC has been warned to be cautious when forming any relationship with the DA but this was ignored
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
They should have gone with EFF and/or MK.......much more trustworthy and beneficial to the country. If you believe communism, socialism, dictatorship and small Kim are the future for SA.......go ahead and have your fantasy, but SA will pay the price!!
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
Why? The only party who will be reasonable. The ANC has had one breakaway after another over the years. Cope, EFF, MK and all because of power and corruption. Nobody really wants to do what is right for South Africa. Maybe this rigorous debate up front will save time in the future. The ANC have to partner with people who will be able to take the country forward in an ever-changing world and that is not the EFF or MK. This proposed GNU must work. We are seeing and experiencing "growing pains" as the ANC gets to understand what the outcome is after years of being complacent and just ignoring input from the opposition no matter how reasonable and accurate the input or criticism was. Who warned them about the DA, those proposing a coalition with a bunch of out of touch ideologists.
@xman15333 ай бұрын
They have no choice MK and EFF I don't they are serious about rulling this country look at KZN MK got 45% but still can't form government
@shafiyaalgiquadra11053 ай бұрын
@@attievanwyk3561we want to see this socialism devil for ourselves. Surely just 5 years of that horror would turn us into ultra capitalists. May be worth the investment.
@sunnyboykaphioa27823 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa is going 😂😂😂
@sindisoparker11543 ай бұрын
Doesn't change anything, the poor will still remain poor and he remains rich with his family. Whether he goes or not it doesn't help us a bit
@mandlakhumalo84543 ай бұрын
The ANC need to understand that the DA will only support them to destroy black professionals, as they did with Mkwebane Mutata and Hlophe
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
No, only those black "professionals" who are incompetent and unqualified, corrupt and benefitted by STEALING from the tax paying citizens.
@beewest57043 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 the examples you chose 😂😂are 😂😂
@not.likely3 ай бұрын
Under the ANC, SA is a politically driven economy. It is not a productively driven economy. In SA, politics creates employment, employment is not created by income generating institutions or income generating operating units. SA is a majority failed state and a majority failed nation. The model for South African employment procedures, which is BEE, cannot generate sufficient income for progress. It's an economy of daily loss and it is heading toward an economy of total collapse. The BEE or cadre economy has failed, like all the cadre economies that run all the African states. Africa is a Banana Continent
@sandilemfeka46583 ай бұрын
I am glad this is happening, the DA must pull out. We want the coalition that we dreamed for. EFF, MK and ANC. We dnt want Aprtheid policies, we stand with Russia and Palestine.
@lebotab223 ай бұрын
DA must pull out to where if I may ask?.
@sandilemfeka46583 ай бұрын
@@lebotab22 Use your eye and ears when you click on the video. Don't ask me.
@samuelngirazi96363 ай бұрын
ANC is selfish
@AnneJoubert-i3m3 ай бұрын
Stop playing politics, ruining peoples lives and playing with the people who matter the most🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼
@Mtima-p8y3 ай бұрын
As i watching this conversation, even u too u seems so worried
@TammyNonganga3 ай бұрын
Hey Vuyo Incorrect use of the word homogeneous ok
@Tsundzu_M3 ай бұрын
Cyril is an actor of note. There's no back and forth here. Cyril will give in eventually, that's what he's been planted in the ANC for
@emmanuelphakathi-gd9zc3 ай бұрын
Why is it called GNU ,,,when its Anc -DA disaggreements
@mosessekele87103 ай бұрын
Both presenters are puppets/ANC supporters. Hence, they don't know which air direction to follow
@PennyPienaar3 ай бұрын
Help me understand please, everyone says the president decides on the ministers but it sounds more like the NEC makes those decisions?
@tebohomokoena80353 ай бұрын
Vuyo mvoko never speak positive about DA
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
Once and idiot, always an idiot. Some people cannot be taught anything!
@alengatembo62233 ай бұрын
Anthuwa apwetekana uku
@sylvastorchitsulo54913 ай бұрын
Avulazana zedi😂😂😂
@mxolisiclement17673 ай бұрын
That's what you meet when you sell your brothers to the enemies,DA will wet your pants😂
@attievanwyk35613 ай бұрын
Sorry, no idea what you are referring to.....I missed the thread.
@machonaramogale3 ай бұрын
political analyst be like aah aaah every second word give analysis not adlips eish
@janni3dutoit3 ай бұрын
The DA is loosing this negotiation , dismally. I will not vote for them again. Rather vote ANC next time.
@sifisodube46863 ай бұрын
Vuyo mvoko his old now he can’t speak properly
@NkululekoShabalala-d4y3 ай бұрын
😂🤣😂
@Itssophie2773 ай бұрын
Blacks in Western Cape are suffering
@mrm75053 ай бұрын
The entitlement and superiority complex the DA exudes will never change as they have given nothing for 94 and reminisce about the pre 94 days.
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
Nonsense. So you saying that about the DA black voters too? Look what Helen Zille's role was in exposing the reasons for Steve Biko's death. She was a very active anti-apartheid activist.
@mrm75053 ай бұрын
@tonyct6640 definitely inability to engage with content leads to being derogatory. If you consider DA liberation activists then perhaps you should consider their policies. The black voters that support the DA ought to have seen the true face of the DA in their manner of dealing with Maimane and Mashaba to name but just two. Sadly, this voter fodder is happy to eat off the proverbial masters table, which is not the case with the majority, thus the shift away from the ANC even. Read the letter by Ramaphosa a day or two ago to the DA which alludes to their manner being insulting, to say the least. Human nature is such that what one doesn't pay a price for something, one doesn't appreciate it and as the apartheid denialists in SA paid no price for 94, they reminisce about the life before 94 despite having had the best of the last 3 decades. Thus, they are incapable of relating to what the oppressed have to deal with 3 decades after 94. Neither do the haves depart nor are they prepared to contribute to leveling the playing fields, rather they continue as if treading this path will not end badly and the majority can be endlessly appeased with R350 pm. It's in the interests of everyone to spread it around and deal with all equitably. Greed and superiority complexes will not bode well for a stable future.
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
@@mrm7505 Well if you consider how the ANC squandered the countries coffers over the past 15 years you will understand why so many of the majority have not been lifted out of poverty. Ineffective leaders, cadre deployment and not holding office bearers to account are but a few of the problems. Uncertainty about policy has kept investors away and that too has not helped. If you consider the breakaway factions from the ANC and the reasons for breaking away then you cannot state in all seriousness that these individuals can take the country forward. President Ramaphosa is the last person to talk about being insulted. He expects to be treated with respect when he smugly sat in parliament, earning a big salary and took ages to do anything about his ineffective ministers. We feel insulted that he turned a blind eye to state capture. He is getting the treatment he is not used to. The DA are playing open cards with him and they are making demands because they know how he and his ministers have chosen to ignore reason in the past. It is not an insult, it is the way of coalition politics. If you get 40% your life is not the same as getting 51% and live with it. The playing field has been levelled on many fronts if you consider the rising middle class but yes unfortunately there are many South Africans who do not have the skills to gain meaningful employment. However, the government has not made life easier for them. There are also many who want the benefits of modern society but continue to insist on living in a manner which will not enable them to participate in the economy which supports a modern lifestyle. You cannot have your cake and eat it.
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
@@mrm7505 I drafted an answer which was presumably removed by the channel. Interfering with rigorous debate. Don't agree with your points.
@NQA12093 ай бұрын
The fact that they are given a cabinet position, that alone is too much Why 6 positions not 2? You will not have to deal with this DA's power delusion
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
No DA then no Presidency for Cyril.
@sindisoparker11543 ай бұрын
@tonyct6640 whether Ramaphosa is there or not it doesn't make a difference to the poor people of our country
@NQA12093 ай бұрын
@@tonyct6640 DA is now a minor party in GNU, others are more than 51%
@SonOfTheSoil8343 ай бұрын
Whoever who voted for DA should be ashamed of this position desperate ,bunch of pretending liars ,political domkops who wher used by ANC to vote ramadollar for presidency and now gonna be thrown away 🤣🤣we as South Africans will always remember them for voting and protecting money launderer
@tonyct66403 ай бұрын
As opposed to Mr State Capture.
@SonOfTheSoil8343 ай бұрын
@@tonyct6640 you mean Ramaphosa who orchestrated same state capture and came fooled you that he will arrest his friends that even today none of them is arrested 🤣🤣🤣🤣ther will always be state capture as long as we have party funding and you can’t stop it or fool us the other way arround .the only problem is who has capture ld the state not state capture per se..open your eyes and ears
@SonOfTheSoil8343 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣Ramadollar who was part of same state capture he fooled you guys that he will even arrest his friends 🤣open your blind eyes ,none of those is even arrested today years later..he was just funding his friend Zondo for judicial (constitutional court capture )…ther will always be state capture due to party funding issues and problem is who has captured the state not state capture per se.dont be fooled !the “sole” problem with Zuma was that he was taking money away from Stellenbosch mafias to guptas!
@SonOfTheSoil8343 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣Ramadollar who was part of same state capture he fooled you guys that he will even arrest his friends 🤣open your blind eyes ,none of those is even arrested today years later..he was just funding his friend Zondo for judicial (constitutional court capture )…ther will always be state capture due to party funding issues and problem is who has captured the state not state capture per se.dont be fooled !the “sole” problem with Zuma was that he was taking money away from Stellenbosch mafias to guptas!
@SonOfTheSoil8343 ай бұрын
@@tonyct6640 🤣🤣🤣Ramadollar who was part of same state capture he fooled you guys that he will even arrest his friends 🤣open your blind eyes ,none of those is even arrested today years later..he was just funding his friend Zondo for judicial (constitutional court capture )…ther will always be state capture due to party funding issues and problem is who has captured the state not state capture per se.dont be fooled !the “sole” problem with Zuma was that he was taking money away from Stellenbosch mafias to guptas!
@PreciousLefutswe3 ай бұрын
If it was the EFF demanding what the DA is demanding, clever blacks would be all over social media networks insulting them left right and center
@SiphiweSithole-ne9tk3 ай бұрын
Wow are you a Sangoma??
@mphozarampou38753 ай бұрын
So true they made noise about 1 position the EFF asked for 😅people are hypocrites nje, black hate. Zille said foreigners mustn't go and no noise was made. This was all over the media. Aaai black opinion is hated by blacks and white.
@zakhelentshangase38783 ай бұрын
These two clever blacks are saying nothing just because their favourites quarrelling amongst each other....😂😂😂
@nomadicleopard3 ай бұрын
"Clever blacks" because for some reason educated black people are bad to you?😂 so that means Shivambu and Malema are also "clever blacks" because they have degrees?😂
@hanyanahanyana89423 ай бұрын
Very true 😢
@conniedebeer15503 ай бұрын
The DA should have asked for only one ministry: Finance. And then let the ANC explain why not.
@MightyMike553 ай бұрын
Sounds like an EFF idea
@MotlokwaThwii3 ай бұрын
That's definitely an EFF play. Arrogant DA would never settle for 1 ministry
@nthabibotsi98553 ай бұрын
That was gonna be interesting because l also wished that to see what will happen 🤣🤣🤣
@louisvanderwalt7163 ай бұрын
My opinion is that it is in nobodies interest to say what you want It should be for the parties to come together and get concenses about who is going to get what portfolios in order to serve South Africa and the citizens best They shouldn't be in parliament to see what they can get.... it should be about what they bring to the table to assist our country
@MotlokwaThwii3 ай бұрын
@@louisvanderwalt716 We are discussing the Executive. Not Parliament
@comancheflyer49033 ай бұрын
Politics is not for the people, it's self interest period.
@rams79323 ай бұрын
2000% correct 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@andrewmohlala32623 ай бұрын
You are 💯✅
@starking263 ай бұрын
Why are all these so called analysts all covering for the ANC? They only have negative things to say about the DA?
@zakhelentshangase38783 ай бұрын
What about biz news... channel they only cover DA mxm
@shafiyaalgiquadra11053 ай бұрын
The DA almost never give a good account of themselves.
@HH1-1-j5p3 ай бұрын
The anc haven't been challenged for 30 years its time to listen and change things to suit all in the country and give different political parties the chance to prove themselves !
@natanielstephen8943 ай бұрын
I don't care anymore the dollar can get strong now DA brings it to 17.90 now anc 18.45
@amosndabeni9343 ай бұрын
Which means the dollar and Rand is racist.
@simphiwebuthelezi50223 ай бұрын
It's obvious Europeans are still deciding for South africans
@msizingubane98613 ай бұрын
We don’t give flying fuck let it go to R80 against dollar for All we care so you can gracefully leave our country
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
@@simphiwebuthelezi5022mmm
@RianRian-em2ng3 ай бұрын
Mmmmmmmm SA are gat fol
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
Translation please
@BonginkosiMoyo-kp4nr3 ай бұрын
POLICE MINISTER AND HOME AFFAIRS must be given to DA
@MissSlenda3 ай бұрын
I think infrastructure as well. Because where are were now, we will soon look like these other African countries. If they can also be given infrastructure, we will probably see much better and also basic education maybe.
@msizingubane98613 ай бұрын
What a load of shit
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
@SilindilemorienMnguni3 ай бұрын
@@MissSlenda❤❤❤❤❤❤
@beewest57043 ай бұрын
If I was the DA I would push them for as much ministerial posts I could get so I cannot hate their hustle. If I was a DA supported I would want them to push for as much posts as possible cause I voted for them to be in govt. The ANC really thought they could use the DA to get the Presidency & then not give anything up in return. Politics is politicking. Fetch my 🍺
@luyandachamane20933 ай бұрын
Wasn’t it the DA a few years ago saying “We have too many cabinet positions, we need to cut the number of ministers we have”
@splashafrica3 ай бұрын
@@luyandachamane2093they still hold that view but the president decided how many positions there are most countries have small cabinet but SA can probably justify it on our size 25th largest by landmass 24th by population there's allot to do and allot of places to do it
@unathimichaelmxaku81053 ай бұрын
@@luyandachamane2093 amen they are power mongers
@BrotherM19783 ай бұрын
@luyandachamane2093 it was only if the ANC was in power. Now that's politicians at their very best 😂😂😂😂😂