What are problems in PH's K-12 program? | ANC

Headstart: Prof Lizamarie Campoamor-Olegario, research head of Sequre Education Movement, says there is a problem with the “quality of education” in the K12 curriculum as teachers fail to tap on the “higher order thinking skills” of the students since they focus more on the traditional style of teaching which involves “listing” and “memorizing.”
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[@pinoytutor]

remove the minor subjects in college (eg, PE, Rizal, Social Sciences) and move them to K12. This way, college will shorten to 3 years. When taking Engineering for instance, subjects should just be Maths and Engineering and nothing else. When taking Medicine, subjects should just be Sciences.

[@vareseources]

social sciences lalo na ang sociology are very important at di pwedeng alisin sa kahit anong kurso.. agree ako sa Rizal at PE na alisin...

[@pinoytutor]

@@vareseources i did not mean totally alisin. I mean ilipat sa senior HS. And alisin sa mga college. Dapat pag engineering puro engineering na lang subjects. Pag medicine dapat puro medicine

[@vareseources]

@@pinoytutor pwede, pero di pa rin ako pabor na ang engineering at medicine ay walang English subjects... kagaya nga ng sinabi, bagsak tayo sa international exams dahil mahina ang problem solving skills at comprehension natin.. Licensed teacher ako pero 20 years na akong content writer at pansin ko sa mga kaklase kong mga teachers sa rural areas mahina din sa comprehension... ang suggestion ko jan sa senior high dapat bigyan ng specialty/elective major subjects kagaya ng mga tinuturo sa Tesda with corresponding NC1 pagka graduate..

[@pinoytutor]

@@vareseources ganyan sa ibang bansa like US and Australia or Singapore. pag programming puro programming. Pero 3 years lang ang College kaya affordable. Wala silang minors. Nung interview ko nga, tanong nila - What is PE what is Spanish what is Rizal. Nakakahiya

[@pinoytutor]

@@vareseources medyo may point ang English. Dahil kailangan constant ang paga aral nya. Di yan pwede iwanan sa HS. And we cannot compare sa western dahil native tongue ang English.

[@ponypower8]

1st point was very clearly explained and hopefully will be implemented correctly once and for all. The 2nd point, this is the government's responsibility. The Philippine government should dissiminate information to all employers that a K-12 highschool diploma will suffice in applying for certain jobs. The goverment should actually enumerate a list of such jobs. And the government should make sure that employers adhere to the new hiring policies. Like in the States, 15-year old teenagers can actually apply for a job and be hired as long as they have a signed parental consent to work. I have a couple of cousins who actually did so. And not at the age of 18, but 15. The Philippine government can enact a law like the one in the States wherein "14 and 15 years old may work outside school hours in various non-manufacturing, non-mining, non-hazardous jobs under certain conditions...14-15 year olds cannot work over 8 hours a day, with no more than 3 hours on a school day, and over 40 hours a week, with no more than 18 hours per week while in school. Minors are also not allowed to work before 7am or after 7pm respectively." *If the lawmakers in the States can do that, I'm pretty sure the Philippine government can do it as well.* Just make sure that no one is cutting corners or someone is getting exploited or treated unfairly. Enforce the law to the letter and make sure it is being followed. If someone violates it, then the appropriate penalty must be imposed.

[@ponypower8]

I agree with what Ms. Davila's suggestion to NOT USE elite students (meaning intellectually better or advanced) in the research or study that they are conducting for the public schools because, let's just keep it real, *there are far more students who are intellectually-challenged.* The results of the research or study WON'T BE REALISTIC if the sample size you will use are "elite students".The will only represent a small minority. The FOCUS of the research or study should be the VAST MAJORITY and these are the students who are "intellectually-challenged".

[@maaurorauyod626]

Thank you for guests who speak sense in a manner lay people understand. Ma'am Karen, may I suggest that you give time for the guest to finish her thoughts? There are times she's cut in the middle of expressing her ideas and the conversation suddenly shifts to another sub-topic. Thanks for such enlightening conversations.

[@phillychannel394]

Magkaroon ka ba naman ng education system na ipapasa mo lahat ng students kahit hindi naman pumapasok or hindi deserving. Pilit pinapa-akyat sa nexf level kasi: 1. Para makasingil ng voucher 2. Para tumaas ang school ratings. More graduates, more incentives 3. Mapapahiya ang school kapag maraming bagsak. Baka wala na mag enroll 4. Ang teacher ang sinisisi kapag maraming bagsak sa klase nya kaya ipapasa na lang.

[@happya2408]

this woman should be the next DEP ED secretary

[@sanashy9024]

Eto realtalk lang. Mababa ang tingin ng lipunang Pilipino sa propesyon ng pagtuturo kasi mababa ang pasweldo at walang overtime pay "Teaching lang" naman yan kase. Kaya naman, yung pinakamagagaling na mga mamamayan ay hindi pinipili at hindi nahihikayat sa propesyong ito. Hindi tuloy name-mentor yung susunod na henerasyon ng mahuhusay na indibidwal. Kaya asahan mo, In the next 10 years, yung mga problemang tinalakay sa videong ito, yan at yan din ang mga problemang pag-uusapan ulit. Paulit ulit lang. Hangga't walang pagbabago sa kultura, ugali, at pamamahala, walang mangyayari. Tanggapin na lang na 'yan na 'yan. Kung may pagbabago man, sa mga maliliit na setting o eskuwelahan na lang ngunit wag nang asahan sa national level.

[@shilamoure]

Both of them have very valid arguments. prof’s argument was about the quality of education (which is actually the point of this discussion) meanwhile karen’s was about the majority’s access to education. Karen asked the right questions, I think education is her strength and not politics xx

[@InvisibleHandz]

Ibaba edad ng kinder at grade 1 pwd na sguro gawing grade 1 ang 4y old or 5yr old, tpos Pag dating ng grade 11 at grade 12 may course na Silang bookeping, video editig, photo editing, graphics design, massage therapist, motor mechanic, welding, autocad drafting technology, safety officer ,mechanic , programming, social Media management, data entry, data analytics, or advanced electrical and electronics dpat lahat yan nsa K11-K12 o kaya lahat ng course sa tesda don na ilalagay sa K11-K12. Tpos dpat english speaking na yong grade 10 ,11 and grade 12.

[@ernimauricio1924]

Actually the 2 years is vocational connected to Tesda. Preparing students for employment upon graduation. DepEd is supposed to be link with industries.

[@beautiful_earth-ew4mx]

nakakalito nga yan. Ung mga gustong mag aral sa university eh di tuloy sa senior high. Ung mga gustong magwork i - enroll sa TESDA.

[@jh3545]

Hope we’ll have more people in the Education sector like Prof Olegario...out-of-the-box progressive thinkers.

[@louieadam251]

K12 is not effective in the Philippines. They should bring back the old curriculum. I graduated high school which is equivalent 10th grade now, then took Civil Engineering and graduated within 4 1/2 yrs , so my years of education primary is 6 yrs, secondary 4 yrs, college 4.5 yrs. I took 18 units of master. When i migrated to US. My degree was evaluated and i was given US equivalency which I used in my work as an Engineer. As long you have bachelors degree you are most qualified in the US particularly in the field of education, nursing, engineering and medicine. If they bring back the old high school program then it saves a lot of time and graduated early.

[@amparoconsuelo9451]

Sinasabing magkakatrabaho ang mga k to 12 graduates. Mahirap mangyari yon Kasi ang daming college graduate Ang wala pang trabaho.

[@ponypower8]

The word is "hybrid" or "blended" for a *combination of* face-to-face classes AND home study e.g. face-to-face every Mon & Fri and home study every T-W-Th.

[@estrellaagustin4206]

Rexommendation to Education; rethinking of our Educational Philodophy, Instructiknal Approach, Curriculum Content , Learning Structure and Design, Learning / Teaching Resources & Environment, etc... Resources, Role of teachers, Home school relationship,..

[@louisbitoy1966]

My daughter who is now in 3rd year in college did not experienced immersion program during their SHS years.

[@xhunter7378]

same

[@elsarlavino4327]

Kahit ubusin nyo pa ang laway nyo sa pagsasalita tungkol sa higher order thinking skills (HOTS) kung Ang mga students ay walang comprehension at Ang mga guro ay Hindi gaano kagaling sa pagturo ng mga kailangang skills para magkaroon ng comprehension Ang mga students Hindi uunlad ang ating educational system. Ganito ang Gawin nyo. Let the teachers undergo an exam with questions like identifying the main idea of a paragraph, logical organization of ideas, what is the lesson that you got in the story you read. Etc. Those teachers who got higher scores will teach English. We must give emphasis on the English language because it is the medium of instruction and the language used in the exams here and abroad. Mastery of the language on the part of the teacher and the students is the key for the improvement of our educational system. Regarding the mismatch of the skills of the graduates and the skills needed in our industries the deped and the CHED should consult our local companies about the lacking of skills of our graduates who entered the labor force so that we can conduct seminars about it to the next graduates it K-12. All master teachers should be the leaders or examples in teaching the needed skills.

[@ernimauricio1924]

Even with K12 it's just 2 and a half percent of GDP. We need 6 percent dictates by United Nations.

[@whengarodemla4867]

Maganda ang k12 kung ang mga subject na mapag aaralan nila dito na kinuha nilang kurso ay credited sa college para major subject nalang ang kukunin nila kung ganun ang mangyayari.

[@JayliFlynn]

free education fpr k-12 no discrimination on class education should b a right

[@alanpedrotejero9347]

THIS CURRICULUM IS NOT NATIONALISTIC IT'S HELP OUTSIDE TO BE MORE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCE NOT THE PHILIPPINES . WE ARE NOT SUITED FOR THIS KIND OF DELIMMA WE ARE DOOMED LITERATE. TSEEE

[@whengarodemla4867]

Para sa akin... Iscrap ang k12.. Ang daoat ang dagdagan ang academics at hindi and length ng oag aaral ng mga mag aaral. Dhil maraming mga magulang na mas gusto pa din ang dting sistema ng education.. Oara ng sa gayun makatulong na sila saknilang mga magulang at mapakinabangan hanggat bata pa pati ang nga benepisyo sa oagtatrbaho. Dagdagan ang nga academics na impirtanteng pag aralan at magagamit sa kolehiyo ng sa gayun ganun pa din ang guguling oanahon sa oag aaral ng mga bataang haba na ng oag aaral ng mga bata elementarya at sekondarya yan palang 10 yrs. na. Plus dagdagan pa ng 2 yrs sa senior at 4 or 5 yrs sa college. Mabuti sana kung ang nga nakuha sa srnior high ay maikecredit sa college para major nalang ang kukunin nila.

[@antondelacruz9362]

If there is an issue with the teaching methods, that issue existed before k12 was implemented. The issue must be in the curriculum for the 2 extra school years. Critical thinking is important but mainly for older students. You dont need critical thinking to understand arithmetic, which is largely about memorization and practice. You also need memorization to understand history, or else you wont have anything to think critically about. Etc etc. People need to stop this idea that memorization is somehow bad. Everybody knew k12 was a mess when it was implemented, and we were just happy it was there. It was understood that it had to be fixed, but apparently deped just forgot to do their job. Karen is right to criticize the idea that one can work at 18 years old, but shes missing the real issue, which has always been financial: some people have no interest in tertiary education and are too young to sign contracts at 16, so graduating at 18 with more knowledge and as a legal adult is better than finishing at 16 and being a dependent child who is forced to go to university. The teaching method is irrelevant. The objectives and content are more important.

[@timsuarez8044]

The problem w K12 is the curriculum, from the teachers' curriculum down to the curriculum of k-12 itself. Imagine, the curriculum of the students are not parallel with their teachers'curriculum kaya hindi alam ng future teachers ang k-12 curr ituro. Their teachers are still in the old curriculum, in short, obsolete

[@mikem.6454]

Ano ba naman to si karen mag interview patupusin nyo muna si maam magsalita hindi ko narinig ang suggestion ni maam.

[@gabsebast4256]

Effective ang K12 at ang problema ay kulang ang training ng mga teachers at dapat 35 to 40 students bawat classroom. Another problem, pagkatapos ng college kulang ang job opportunities dahil few lang ang foreign companies ibig pumunta dito dahil sa napakamahal ang cost of production compare with our Asian neighbors.

[@ernimauricio1924]

Need to interview Armin Luistro for DepEd.

[@philbon6492]

Umportantly soved the so called corruption in Deped?

[@philbon6492]

Ang mindset kc ng mga teschers ang oras 400 pm pupunta na cr upang doing make up themselves.

[@florentinosebastianjrjhun2535]

Stupidly the program waste of money effort and time... this advantage add infrastructure cost time effort training resources if you put everything all negatively .. . Only one purpose to follow international standards. What what the one how pass this things .... the above commentators all bullying...

[@macelestesarmiento]

Hay naku wag nio nang guluhin pa online online class na yan walang matututunan mga bata jan need ng bata F2F classes Half of thier life ang mimissout nila pag online class parin. Mga tamad magturo at mag aral lng ung mga mag oonline class. Sana di pumayag nag DEpEd isa ung mga online class sila pa ung nasa honor di wow

[@philbon6492]

But deped lack well trained teachers

[@philbon6492]

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