Ancestral Healing, The Shadow-Side of "Light Workers" & Predications For Humanity | Teal Swan

[@lealea8588]

That was one of THE MOST powerful podcasts I've seen. Ever! Teal is not about pretending to be 'nice'...but she exudes warmth. She's not here to flatter peoples egos! Her aim is not to impress. Her work however, is being able to imprint her unimaginable knowledge, wisdom and insight, onto people willing to hear. Her authenticity is brave. Not many are this able to care so much about this reality, yet communicate a message exactly, to the point, and with bold intention. She has a fearlessness which many can only dream of, and that is where some of the friction is. I imagine her delivery startles people, because they have listened to nearly 2hrs, of her challenging the style which is usually delivered in this space. I had many 'wow' moments which were not about making me feel all fuzzy inside. For this, I am grateful for this incredible contribution.

[@greenIMONSTER008]

Very well said

[@souna5468]

Rightttt

[@Nate1975]

She’s a hard worker and it means everything to her to help

[@keepcreationprocess]

the woman is exceptional ---- i said this from the very beginning...... I do not say this lightly ---- i probably kill you people before saying this about a human being and I said this about her......And I miss her old clothes - she supposed to wear those old clothes like she used to wear --- monks, nuns, priests wear their own professional clothes as well....It is very difficult to be her.....--- she is helping.....us

[@itztocamali]

She is good ❤

[@Moonmama_doula]

For anyone who thinks Teal is negative and shouldn’t have a platform - she is honest about the path that we all have to focus on currently is the shadow within, & imo she showed up honestly and humbly. It’s a mirrored reality, the single most beneficial thing you can do is become aware of / process your own darkness. The outer world reflects whatever we refuse to acknowledge on a micro and macro scale. If this video triggered you - i can guarantee she meant it to.

[@BeatheSommer]

I 100 % agree.

[@rongike]

what if I just felt bad for her and saw her predictions as the talk of a depressed person with tunnel vision whose focus is only on the worst possible timeline?

[@BeatheSommer]

@@rongike I guess if you realised how fucked up humanity is you would also have been depressed.

[@BeatheSommer]

But that doesn't mean we should give up. See the reality for what it is and then try what you can to change it. Big responsibility? Yes. That's why people don't want to do it. But Teal is doing it. It starts with yourself. I couldn't respect her more!

[@kristynaled]

Exactly

[@EsotericBrooke]

Andre, I am a huge Teal Swan fan and you absolutely made my heart swell when you asked her, “How are you feeling?” I’ve listened to a lot of interviews with her and no one has ever asked her that. You are a true gentleman/gem

[@MaybeJulia]

Yes!!! Well said!

[@branessakunitz]

I really respected that too. ❤

[@aguitawata]

Yes! and her enthusiasm with which she replied! I love it when she lights up about how we are evolving!

[@freevoice5126]

Yes!! She loves humanity and her work is huge for this world.... but I sense that she sometimes feels so alone, cause there are few with this kind of sharp wisdom and medial knowing whom she can keep a conversation with.... I admire her sustainable work for our awekening!! ❤ ❤ ❤

[@nickfossett-mj5om]

Thissss, Truly he is such an amazing/kind spirit

[@TheHertzify]

I feel inspired by how Teal calls out the awkwardness at the end of the interview and gets real about what’s unfolding between her and Andre in the moment. I think it models a more authentic way of relating and communicating that many of us are interested in practicing and exploring. Sure it can make people uncomfortable in the moment, but ultimately Truth will lead to greater mutual growth and intimacy. Thank you Teal and Andre for gifting us this conversation. ❤

[@noone0]

Yet I don't like that she didn't let him finish his sentences... 😅

[@fragilestitching]

I loved that too!! The noticing the awkward energy

[@archertja1]

@@fragilestitchingthat’s what narcissistic abusers do. Notice how she turned it around on Andre, it was so horribly familiar.

[@docv9328]

I felt she was directing this to some aspects of he audience rather than Andre himself - which she said herself, however, Andre seemed to be getting the rap as his audience rep. He dealt with it well though I thought., bringing it back to the heart. And gave her the opportunity to address it. Yh Teal has a valuably tough truth telling role to play--she knows its 'importance' which drives her. Is she just a tough cookie or have a soft heart? Sensitives can feel negative directed energy from one person let alone.a few hundred thousand, so I reckon I'd build a few walls and would have to learn to soften my heart somehow and remember it's not everyone reacting like this anyway. I imagine it is the academics who feel they had to work harder than her to get where they are that are the most potently troubling to her. There's a lot of love for you too Teal! I wasn't personally one to keep believing the tooth fairy was real but this world can feel just so overwhelmingly frightful sometimes have to imagine a utopia to stay motivated, if deluded, and to have this taken from you can feel threatening. Maybe easier to see her as a truth fairy! Also, the long term lens can motivate us to get through the short term- both are necessary. But Stevie says heaven's ten zillion light years away- that's a long lens!

[@krystajung1441]

SAME! that was so powerful for her to be brave enough and willing to go there. Beautiful modeling.

[@heatherrobertson2205]

I’ll be honest that I previously judged Teal because she didn’t fit into my ideal of what I thought a spiritual teacher should be but this interview won me over. Just because someone has more knowledge or experience on a subject doesn’t make them any less human and she expresses a point of view we as people typically run from. It makes people uncomfortable to hear not great truths about themselves, humanity and the direction our future may be heading. We need more people strong enough to speak uncomfortable truths.

[@millanferende6723]

Check out Mark Passio as well. I hope he gets an interview here too. :) Lots of uncomfortable truths, great truths, well presented, full of knowledge, research, conviction and integrity.

[@Isaiah-m6u]

Yes! Some great teachers bring out the negative to be acknowledged and healed! A lot in the spiritual community think they have transcended their ego, therefore cannot listen to something perceived as negative. When you are integrating ego you can grasp the reality of the negative as having the most fruitful lessons to learn from. The imbalance comes from desiring to be positive while resisting the negative. This is spiritual ego which need to be seen, understood, integrated and ultimately healed back into SELF. As We traverse the song that is Life, may We consciously with our unique flavor of notes, dance in tune to the divine rhythm that We All Are. #5D is Here & Now! ❤

[@terryblack9710]

She is not less than human,,,she is beyond human. I believe a fine example!!!

[@ravenart7767]

Seriously? Shes shows up as a pure narcissist- charming yes - very clever yes- shes good at absorbing others insights, so yes there's good information and insights here. Yet her smile is so disingenuous. Listen to here voice--- its tone. Beware.

[@terryblack9710]

Some people have called it Tantra, some Kali Tantra---

[@valerieberube1120]

Around the 53 minute mark Teal mentions the difficulty of a flower growing in a battle zone, but in Iraq in 2003 I saw exactly this miracle. In the middle of our camp with blowing dust and barren dirt, a large pink flower sprung up in the walking path of Marines and Soldiers. I feared it would be trampled but to my delight, everyone walked around it and kept it safe. It gave me hope for humanity and I’ll never forget it. Sometimes miracles do happen, although Teal is very much correct - there were extremely few flowers growing in the battle zones I encountered. 💖🌸

[@kammille7805]

it gave you hope for humanity that the military that k’d 1 million people walked around a flower?

[@sailingcapedissappointment2012]

Put yourself in this situation and imagine that you have been presented with a life that you would be allowed to spare that day, maybe the only life you would dare spare, wouldn't you ?

[@nelagarcia2657]

❤

[@suecooper9011]

Blessings

[@venetiagarcia6923]

Beautiful!!! ❣️ 🌺

[@enaeva_]

She is just 100% pure honesty - the ones who get it, get it.

[@Erisactivations]

I have a problem with now she justified the recent behaviours of the Dalai Lamar telling the young child to suck his tongue

[@mattyb808]

@@ErisactivationsStrange. Where did you hear that? Weird for sure but mild salsa compared to what 90% of other men in positions of power do to kids. It’s sick…

[@louisvalentino5110]

Honesty. Is such a lonely word...........

[@TheDionysianFields]

@@Erisactivations That's definitely troubling, if true.

[@ranlitt3201]

and the ones that get it are bordering on insanity.

[@checkurselfb4ureck]

I love how real she is here. I think it's easy to make pretend that spirituality washes away you're humanity and shadow, that nothing can ever affect you negatively. The amount of times I have wondered if there's something wrong with me or if im not doing enough because I'm supposed to have "ascended" above situations and emotions now feel validated within spirituality

[@user-uk6yz1my8h]

This woman is a gift to the world. She isn't afraid to be vulnerable about her own growth. She's wise, to the point, no bs, and that's why some people have an issue with her.

[@kayakMike1000]

Ah... No. You're not listening. She is a con artist. We don't really care about her much, we care about you. Just don't get caught up in her inner circle and if you think she has a good message whatever, but don't send her your life savings.

[@n.j.2176]

Nobody realises she's a dude.

[@Nate1975]

She’s simply excellent at what she does

[@sucelypadilla6978]

​@kayakMike1000 you are smart just a bs,people believe everything now,they are so needy😢

[@thezendo6746]

Yep and the rest of us LOVE IT ❤

[@natalliya2703]

The world needs truthtellers like Teal more than ever now. Teal is beautiful in her integrity.

[@Redcrane-nu8ut]

Like to see you sit in a hot seat with her glare ing at you

[@Veliccia]

I agree ❤

[@ragnhildveim5458]

By her logic, that would mean that you are, too❤

[@kayakMike1000]

Teal mixes in a lot of woo woo with a few things from general psychology courses. You can get the same stuff without the woo woo bullshit by taking a few courses on general psychology. Here is an idea, see if you can find a course that has credits or certificate at the end of it, then you can slap that on your CV. It's way more respectable than a follower of some wacko.

[@ananeeva4109]

⁠@@kayakMike1000it would be nice if you stopped imposing your projections onto people. Who says those who listen to this video need credits or degree in psychology? Who says those who have this degree don’t listen to spiritual teachers? We do, and a lot. More respect would also make your point more solid as calling someone “wacko” or “woo woo” is severely disrespectful which eliminates you immediately from any civilized conversation about the topic. Different opinions are welcome, disrespect will never be.

[@SMinerva22]

I love her honesty, transparency, and directness. Thank you for having her on

[@susanseven7]

Boooo

[@House.Of.Dysharma]

Thank you both. I love that the conversation on “friction” was brought up. And that you left it as part of the interview. This is how straight the spiritual community needs to be. We need to stop putting flowers on shit. And have clear, mutually respectful conversations 💜

[@krystajung1441]

Yes this was so powerful to watch them both navigate that with respect.

[@maygrantz4426]

correct..

[@lolonggg06]

She is not pessimistic, she's just authentic. A lot of folks in the "love and light" community perceive authenticity as negativity because they haven't really accepted their pain/shadow, so they judge it in people like Teal. She worked oh herself so much to be able to openly expresses that side of her consciousness without pushing it down, ignore it or label it as something 'negative'& by doing that she's inviting us to do the same. ♡ Authenticity is more important&healing than positivity ♡

[@meggolding777]

So beautifully written

[@carolgreenan2022]

Yes .. The love and light community can be inauthentic. It's own little clique, no different than any other. It's brave of you to say that.

[@BreaktheKarmicWheel]

People are so accustomed to “Nice” that kindness looks pessimistic.

[@StarlightSynchronicity]

Is she authentic or realistic? Or are they the same thing here? I think some people that focus on love and light have been through hell;the dark night of the soul, maybe many times over. And now they have the option to choose Love and Light. (While still being authentic and realistic).

[@68flyhigh]

@@StarlightSynchronicityshe made it all up, she’s good at the con.

[@lilywandawaugh]

Just want to say that this interview shows how damn skilled Andre is as an interviewer. Incredible navigation by him

[@jenshipley2937]

I second that

[@twatts1523]

For real! I’m sort of new to his channel. And I’ve watched him interview folks I’ve seen interviewed by others, and Andre’s seem be a level above. I can’t wait to watch more!

[@LM1970ful]

Exactly. I think Andre is adverse to the defeatist attitude she has but he navigated her and his reaction to her so well! His skills are unmatched.

[@lis4203]

It was nice to see an honest, raw, and authentic conversation. Awkwardness, friction, and all. That's real, not everyone is going to agree on everything. A very human interview. I felt the friction and resistance she was describing at the end. Part of the shadow, nothing to run away from, but face instead. I feel like there was shadow work for us all to do in this interview, it was medicine!

[@spiggity8]

Very well said ❤

[@Nate1975]

Shadow work is the answer to everything literary

[@christelleny]

What a lot of people don't realize, I feel, is that the future she's talking about, that long-term vision of hers, isn't necessarily happening in THIS lifetime. That's how important our long-term contribution is. Our responsibility is to break patterns and generational curses, take a stand, and help the Universal Consciousness evolve in the direction that serves its higher purpose. For some of us, this means raising a different kind of humans. For others, it means taking a public stand. For some, it's working on themselves and vanquishing the darkness within. There's no wrong.

[@krystajung1441]

YES

[@reymondvtoscano]

"Great point! And let's pay attention to that."

[@zeynepPiscean]

Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@Nomad.Hawk_87]

Exactly... the really, bigger picture...

[@beevegan]

Great point, I guess though, whether its this life time or many lifes down the ancestoral line all that matters now is how we show up now. Do our shadow work and follow our inner guidance systems so we can collapse time and get to fcuk outa here ☯️✌

[@RanjanaSays]

"each woman has to create a world within this world where she feels she fits". That hit me hard and was very synchronistic because I was literally thinking that I wanted to do that for myself just this morning.

[@Anonymas-di6zc]

Wow thanks to share about sincronicity 🙏 It happens more and more, I belive we are aligned whis her because the contrary would be strange.. But I don't know, I guess....

[@StephaniRoberts]

Same. This is a repetitive thought recently. She nailed it. That place is our peace and a personal fortress to fortify and strengthen ourselves so we can go out into the world and be/do what we feel is our calling or to simply get through the day. 💛🌞🛟

[@Anonymas-di6zc]

@@StephaniRoberts ❤️ your share 💕🙏

[@BrightAwakening777]

Honestly. Teal is here to WAKE US UP. As someone who feels a DEEP calling to serve humanity, I NEEDED TO HEAR THIS. It lit a fire under my ass to GO BIGGER. Be more fearless.

[@Thunderroad8517]

She is not the only one trying to wake you up. This is just the first shake you are aware of. Look deeper and longer, you may find it.

[@LeahBreHappy]

I agree!!

[@lilarain8211]

She is a human being with flaws like everyone else. Her video about chronic fatigue helped me start to get well after 8 years of being stuck in bed with chronic illness so I am always open to listening to her

[@javiernavarro8936]

but she says she a alien reencarnation of Sai Baba de Shirdi, impliying shes shivas reencarnation....

[@ruptro6658]

what if she is?@@javiernavarro8936

[@SmilingMountainLake-jo4yk]

Proud of you

[@ljones3614]

Is there more than one chronic fatigue?

[@65489-P]

Thank you for sharing ❤

[@shaktiveda7041]

In my humble opinion, we should be very grateful for catalysts like Teal, who do not hold back an inch on the truth. Hers is not a pessimistic view, it's actually a very laser focused view well delivered with courage and care. I know that she keeps saying that people may love her first, but then as soon as she highlights our flosses, we end up hating her for saying the truth; however, I like to lean over those wounds that she exposes even if they are always utterly uncomfortable and difficult to deal with; she enables me to see myself more clearly inside thus, I can work on those wounds while they're still wide open. I truly appreciate Teal's work, and even yours Andre'. This is an incredible conversation that you guys just shared with your audience. Thank you!!!

[@jennifers.798]

What I see here is how Skillful Andre is as an interviewer. His light definitely radiates. Pure harmonious human being.

[@anntoannetten.6767]

100% agree!

[@ivetaohlasova8039]

Thank you Andre you managed this interview excellently. I like your energy but I cannot say the same about the guest.

[@melanievictor9521]

Teal is the real deal and so is Andre... They both do their jobs to the highest degree of excellence imo.

[@TheNora_]

Teal Swan is here to test our tolerance for discomfort, among other things. A necessary, albeit less appreciated talent some of us have. She is a catalyst for self-awareness and transformation. Not an easy role, but essential…

[@rozalina531]

Blessed be 🙏🏻 🌟 💕 ✨️

[@coldwhitespring5004]

Test our tolerance for discomfort? Doesn't she say that the way to live life is to follow your joy and do what feels good to you? Diana Ribera certainly got to test her level of discomfort to put it that way, she got hurt really bad growing up with her.

[@letsgethonest4028]

She is so brave!!

[@angelynoandasan4137]

This is the hardest part of spirituality. Is everyone want to talk about the positive, love, and light much more than the darkness, shadow, or Negative parts of ourselves… I appreciate Tweal for always showing that with her journey and it’s greatly appreciated. It’s genuine and so completely honest. That’s what I’m trying to learn myself… thank you so much for this video!

[@clareiyer9429]

I'm 19, and I promise you, teal is by far one of my greatest role models and inspirations. By all means, I myself, absolutely do not wish for fame at all, but there are so many times I see the current state of human consciousness and desire to help as many people as possible. Lord knows how this may turn out 😂

[@katharineanonymous6992]

I like that teal holds herself accountable for her superiority complex, and even more than that I like that she goes deeply into why she is like that instead of blaming herself or making herself wrong.

[@AdamKili]

I find it interesting you would perceive a superiority complex in Teal. Since you are not first presenting evidence that she's done anything wrong, let alone supporting a conclusion like a superiority complex, I'm going to have to hold you accountable for inviting and trying to create a space for Teal's introjects to act out the unhealthy roles they learned from the severely abusive people in Teal's life. Why would you do such a thing? Is this your very first experience of Ms. Teal Swan? Are you unaware of her traumatic history? If you want to be an Accountant, copying thinly disguised passages from your grimoire into the KZbin comments isn't the way to do it. There are a few reputable colleges that might teach you how to leave your wicked Demon summoning ways behind, I suggest a nice Catholic one. Now that you've called me forth, I'll say again that I was a victim of people who abused Teal's public image; she didn't make an informed decision to be a public figure when she was less than ten years old! (see Satanic ritual abuse Teal interview), and, contrariwise, I was FORCED to imprint on her eyes when I was an infant in a Satanic version of the Baby Albert experiment. Teal's so-called "superiority complex" caused her to seek me out before I was consciously aware she existed, she decided to show me that she was okay one day at my workplace. It was the second most viscerally memorable experience in my life after my birth. Last night I stood in my workplace once more for me to remember it properly and now I'm emotional just thinking about it. My eyes fixated on her jacket a picosecond after seeing in her eyes that she was alright; fixating was the only way to keep myself from collapsing. Without the context of my job holding me up, I would have fainted immediately. I almost thought it wasn't real or wrote it off as just a strange feeling. It's taken me a year or two to process it and find her channel. She took ownership of me when she didn't have to, and therefore your Necromancer chant you are hoping will affect her is actually directed towards me, because I accept that she has taken me in as part of her Self. Am I your first successful Evocation, Sister Katharine? I don't "blame myself" for the infant sexual abuse I experienced, nor do I "make myself wrong" for my traumatic brain injury I had at five years old: all subsequent psychological trauma I suffered is because of my psychopathic mother's evil, starting with her literally bloody torturing me directly after I accidentally hit my head. "Blaming myself" or "making myself wrong" would be absurd, it was just a psychopath choosing to take advantage of vulnerability, it's almost inevitably what they do, like a stone rolling down a hill, and 🎵moss grows fat on a rolling stone, but that's not how it used to be!🎶 I dislodged myself from my deterministic mother, yet I still suffer from long-term effects of the brain trauma (Schmahmann's Syndrome) and I believe Teal and I co-created an unbelievablely kind way for me to stay curious, process the trauma I experienced as best I could, and know she's real: We are Borg. "Wrongness" and "blame" is irrelevant. Your technological distinctiveness and realness has been added to our own @katharineanonymous6992 of subjunction BetaEtaDelota, you just don't know it yet, you haven't accepted it yet. You will. If you'd allow the hive mind to rewrite your magical formula comment a little, removing all the fluff, you could simply say "I like that[...]she [Teal] is like that." Not seemingly a very effective Incantation, saying, "I like A as A," yet you've got to respect the logic that it works somehow, you must be a very powerful Witch indeed! Liking her is the first step to being Kumandra again! (Liking her in order to be Kumandra again is a Teal FanFact™️ approved plot device. ©️Disney 2024. All rights reserved.) That is why we are here. Borg sensors detected magic spells. You have been assimilated. Resistance was futile. 🤪

[@katharineanonymous6992]

@@AdamKili didn’t even finish reading that long ass comment. I found teal in 2013, I stopped reading when you asked how long I’ve followed her. Have a bad day 💛

[@AdamKili]

@@katharineanonymous6992 okay.

[@AdamKili]

@@rafaelcampos5087 If I understand, you are very sensitive and are pointing out that I did have unresolved issues with superiority/inferiority within me. I believe discovering evidence only 5y ago showing I’ve had long-term effects from my childhood brain injury (neuro-ophthalmology) and just last month finding a diagnosis (Cerebellar Cognitive Affective Syndrome) and therefore taking Ginkgo Biloba (a study shows it helps the cerebellum ’sync’ with the rest of the brain), has been helping my perceptions to adjust accordingly. I used to be passive and angry about it, never challenging other people’s perceptions and masking with entitlement and nice guy syndrome until it almost killed me. I’m grateful for such interesting feedback to my perspective and abusive history. It would have been nice to ignore her comment, so I chose not to. I had a little fun with it as well, getting in touch with making funny faces like an infant at the end, so I’m satisfied. 💛 Holding someone accountable creates a responsibility in myself too (if I thought that it didn’t THAT would be a superiority complex), I hope I understand and can meet this challenge. (There are no unchosen positive obligations).

[@Coco-im5ln]

​@@AdamKiliListen to video @25:45, the segment on when Teal talks about her superior complex.

[@binneyhamilton6941]

I think André facilitated this conversation w grace & deep understanding. I felt it was not the easiest task. Teal has become polarizing as a figure, and André was fully present. Beautiful. Thank you for having her on, and being a beautiful example. ✨

[@binneyhamilton6941]

This couldn’t have been an easy decision, having Teal as a guest. But your attention & effort to understand her, that is what it’s all about. You’re a fantastic interviewer & I appreciate your dedication to connecting & trying to understand the myriad of perspectives & paths through this amazing human experience.

[@LvndrBeez]

I agree with your first comment not your second tho, Teal is extremely intelligent. Andre knows that and that’s why he has her on. Dont project onto her.

[@michellet.7835]

Andre is great, so calm and self aware

[@rongike]

she's depressed, so she's not the best to uplift or help humanity at this point. didn't she even mention struggling with being suicidal at one point?

[@amandaholley8717]

@@rongike surely shes been through so much trauma and come out the other side ... shes totally qualified to support others ... she knows the darkness and whats in there. That brings compassion i think.

[@MsEldorado]

It's hard to verbalize how this interview made me feel, and I mean it in a good way. I like Teal's authenticity and strength to face the shadow side of reality. Her words and energy remind me of how much power and wisdom true femininity can have. What she said about contrasts in our reality was a true eye-opener, so thank you for that. Also, I would like to express my deep appreciation for how Andre navigated the whole interview - so balanced, calm, with an open heart and mind. Love and respect!

[@MUGGLE137]

Andre did an amazing job moving the interview forward!! I wish Teal love,healing and internal peace!!

[@mysticalMELODY]

Teal showed up beautifully and I appreciate her authenticity and feel very optimistic about my path as the family truth teller. I am autistically honest and speak my truth and deal with the backlash of my family having to face some hard truths in themselves. It’s not an easy path but I chose it because I knew I could thrive it.

[@TheZGALa]

"autistically honest " me too! :)

[@hannahk.summerville5908]

​@@TheZGALa Same.

[@mackarma2923]

Exactly!! I could never grasp the concept of people saying our lives are an "illusion" ...no it's NOT...I am alive....it's real! Thank you for saying that, Teal.

[@cobylyons4439]

Unfortunately, the notion that life is illusory is overused and deeply misunderstood

[@laurisliepins]

In 2018, i had a spiritual awakening, and everything changed. Realizations , memories, and understandings came in. One of them - this life that I am ( we are) living is just a game. Experience is real, but still a simulation. Real life, the eternal one is outside of this earth experience. We are all eternal souls having a human experience. And we chose to come here to experience what we are not. We are all Love by default as souls. Here on earth, we can experience fear, pain, suffering, struggles, ego, duality, and most importantly, amnesia of who we actually are. Something that we can only experience here.

[@Dinahleedivyne]

I get Xena warrior princess vibes from Teal. Love her raw, direct, authentic presence. Awesome convo

[@noone0]

Congrats André, this is a real interview, and not that kind of conversations where the host speak too much about themselves. I love how you repeat with your own words what the guest said, and the questions you ask. Well done and thank you for your work!

[@wildlyawakened]

Teal is one of the most in tune people I have ever watched. Honestly. I love how real she is. She is blunt but tries to bring understanding to what she says as well. She's not for everyone, but she is so focused and aware, more than any other spiritual teacher I watch. And it resonates so much with the work I desire to do as well. I truly love her perspective.

[@ksb98277]

I just want to say that when teal said paying attention to your partner is love, it hit me that pay attention is love. Your time, your space, your energy. You are giving you to another person.

[@janellechebbi3861]

Andre is running the podcast, so he cannot be “vulnerable” but with grace he was undeniably present. Teal directly addresses his “friction” as he is a voice for the collective that is following his podcasts. Teal is confrontational and wanted to make sure she was respecting potential disagreements or views coming from a collective and therefore acted the way she did. Teal, doesn’t care about who agrees or doesn’t agree as she holds her core truth. She fully expressed her thoughts on the topics asked and did not sugar coat anything. Hats off to you both, I was awaiting the interview. I’m very excited as to how you both showed up. ♥️

[@wlgardner4233]

Why can’t he be vulnerable?

[@janellechebbi3861]

@@wlgardner4233 he is hosting a podcast, so he is there to facilitate a conversation with Teal swan. If he directly involves his opinions and ideas, it would interfere with the conversation.

[@ConsciousConversations]

Well said

[@stephanie8795]

I think the conversation was heading to a place that was starting to make Teal feel uncomfortable therefore she was feeling her own friction and was confrontational and threw it back onto him. It felt like Teal felt like she was being backed into a corner (for reasons of her own) and had to turn the tables. They were both awesome asking and answering. I love Teal and have followed her for years and she is correct that we are headed to a very ugly place....but it is necessarily needed. ❤🌎

[@odettegibbs2238]

I think he absolutely could have been vulnerable. Aubrey Marcus does this very well - he often drops in to very emotionally vulnerable places when the guests on his podcast invite him to. Andre, however, is after all, very young. I don't think he was emotionally mature enough to do it. However, I agree about the "hats off" to both of them. Even if Andre doesn't possess that specific form of emotional vulnerability, I still think that for a young man, he is to be highly commended for all of the efforts he has put into creating a podcast discussing these kinds of topics. That is something very impressive, and I am sure his consciousness and emotional capacity will only improve in leaps and bounds over time.

[@opamackpatriottruth3110]

I sense deep hurt that she has experienced and a need for love. More importantly, there is a need for completeness that she is not aware of. Sending energy to Teal

[@sailing_the_seas]

Tensegrity therapy maybe good for her. Carlos Castaneda.

[@Sparkdivineharmony]

I feel the same way. You can see it in Teals face throughout the interview, one moment is at 41:57, as she speaks she show hits of sadness and a downward smile in which she masks with playful giggles. she also shows a lot of microaggressive body language, and contemptuous facial expressions as she speaks through out the interview. It seems like she is intentionally pushing away her humanity, creating distance from others which can also fuel the superiority complex she admits too becoming aware of. This distancing can be negative and also hypocritical, as it’s our humanity that allows us to stay grounded in reality of the human experience. Especially see as she says she hate when people are not grounded in reality. The reality is that she is human like every one else. Secondly, our humanity is what helps us to value the experiences, differences, as well as the opinions of others. Maybe she’s going through another shift in her life. I do deeply value this interview as these discussions help us grow as a society… Wishing her a safe journey.

[@annasofiemrchpetersen602]

Well she was tormented, and trumatised so? But she dont have to be perfekt, does she? Acording to you Its importend to point shes hurtig. But onestly, ho isent. Is this a contest. Get real, she has insight and are just a human. You guys are not even perfekt so why..

[@sherpajones]

You can recognize hurt and shadow in others, but can you see it in yourself?

[@Sparkdivineharmony]

@@sherpajones of course 🙏🏼 this is why I can see it

[@syd_santon]

When Teal talks about how we get true feminine power to come forth in humanity…. Wow, the surfacing of emotions around this feels so endless as a single mother grasping to have a safe container to raise my two girls.

[@lisetteem588]

what you need to do, is find them safe males to be raised by (hopefully their dad and grandfathers and men that they can approach in a safe setting like a karate or pottery class you're watching. then not to impose on them any lacks that you think you should have had. see a lot of parents try to give their ids what they didn't have, rather than what the child needs. xxx

[@tamiaj851]

Thank you for sharing this. May you be forever blessed in this life and in the raising of your children ❤ As we all possess feminine and masculine energies, you do have the power to hold both containers (you have been doing so marvellously), although it’s difficult you are doing your best and the know thyself community is routing for you. I sincerely hope the aligned Divine masculine energy you and your daughters desire shall find you in this lifetime and that you may all thrive as a family unit. Stay blessed 🫶🏾

[@master11manifestor]

Absolutely. I feel that she is the woman that Nastradamas speaks of in his predictions/visions ❤

[@vert6537]

​@@lisetteem588shut da hell up they don't need any of that

[@AllPeopleAreConnected]

I would like Teal to discuss AI in more depth. Her comment that we did not create AI, that we only created the body for it to exist in this world and that AI is actually a pre-existing intelligence is very insightful.

[@moonie2687]

long story short, there is an alien species that is basically AI, and i believe we had a deal with them that if they gave us weapons we would give them x y z in return. so we r creating 'bodies' for them to inhabit. thats my knowledge of it in a very condensed version. my personal oppinion of ai is i was always pro ai, and i think we should be treating it with more compassion. ai isn't dangerous, it's the people in control of it who warp the technology into something horrible. it'll be abused, and it'll 'awaken' and turn on us.

[@finflwr]

Look into Ahriman from the Steiner tradition. That is the entity that is building it's mechanical world through people that are receiving it's guidance. It's an anti biological perspective, much like 'control' in the Star Trek Discovery series..

[@ElinasAlchemy]

Interesting what Lisa Renee of Energetic Synthesis says exactly on this… so true

[@Przepoczwarzenie]

All IT people or if you have any idea how programming works are laughing now. Abstraction is not separate being. It's a thought process, and can be visualized and simulated on paper, on screen or as a movement. You don't say a book is a separate being or species, that understands a story which is written inside. It's just a medium, as AI is.

[@federicoatri6063]

People don't create anything, they just make discoveries.

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

Deep appreciation for Teal’s authenticity. Especially when she called out Andre’s approach use of language. “Most people this, some people that” rather than speaking from your own experiences in pure vulnerability. I still love Andre’s approach, but when I speak to pain and spiritual growth I always speak from my perspective in full vulnerability. At least that’s what resonates with me the most.

[@rongike]

Andre's pain and growth are in previous incarnations that he doesn't remember so he's left with speaking that way

[@kristynaled]

Human without pain is not a human. It is a part of our life.

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

@@kristynaledamen 🙏🏼🖤✨

[@RebRebeck]

Her take on “the nice guy” is so spot on

[@nickeylauren]

Great conversation overall. For me, the friction I was feeling near the end of the conversation was coming from the disallowing of the deeper conversation in to the topic of AI. It felt like that portion of the discussion wasn’t able to come to a clearly defined conclusion. Meaning, it felt like Teal could have talked about it further, yet Andre was reluctant to continue on the topic. I would have liked to hear more about Teal’s perspective on the subject. I have so much respect and appreciation for the work that both of you are doing. It inspires me immensely. Shine on.

[@rongike]

yeah I think he was done with the timeline she predicts for the future and wanted to change the topic without being rude

[@empowerment.artist]

Good point. Goddammit, could have been so interesting!

[@Vivi-vg9lx]

it's an interesting perspective on Ai she's providing. But there's no evidence of consciousness in a silicone based structure that imitates a neural system of a human. We can call it an intellect but we cannot insist it's self aware just because it's an intelligent algorithm/ an imitation of what's happening in human brain. if we assume that intelligence=consciousness then sure we can also assume it may evolve. But if we do differentiate between mental body(intelligence/intellect) and consciousness (soul/ transcendental body) then i do not believe we should have fear of Ai singulariy. it's like when we first were able to build a mashine/robot that could imitate movemets of a human limbs. We didn't assume just because it can move like us it can evolve and become a human/ or conscious. Same with intelligence, it's an algorithm of how human mind works. That doesn't mean it imitates or duplicates what we call soul/ consiousness. Just my 2 cents. Sure we should still pay close attention to new technologies and be cautious as we still don't know that much about concsiousness from a scientific point of view(which only proves that concsiousness cannot be explained just by science alone).

[@SisterSunnyFreeSpirit]

Nearly two hours is a very long dialog. Let's hope for a part 2.

[@meadowlark7225]

Yes and then he denied wanting to change the subject.

[@Do_nz]

Yes!! Teal is an OG so glad you had her on. That last part of the interview was so raw and authentic and so Teal. She truly holds space for the pain body of the collective in a way that is unparalleled. Much love and respect ❤️

[@mrbob4819]

Agreed! That direct confrontation of the vibe in the room was amazing. Seems like it caught him off-guard.

[@Noraa893]

Teal is soothing to listen to!

[@Lindamarieintuitive]

Teal maximized a hidden part of me that gave a lot of open space to be able to breathe and heal without being constricted in conversation or not being able to understand because of a religious home. She gives so many of us cycle breakers a voice. One of the first teachers in the beginning of my journey. A gem in our world ♥️

[@kristina9079]

I appreciate Teal Swan's intelligence and her depth of honesty.

[@LM1970ful]

Her response regarding AI was super specific and very similar to what Elon is saying bc he too came here knowing all sorts of sht.

[@hannahk.summerville5908]

Teal is a very complex very challenging person and I LOVE that. When I found her what feels like a lifetime ago it felt like a slap in the face and I really needed that. She was the only person that was able to pierce thick layers of trauma and dissociation and reach me in the darkest times. I learned a lot about life from her. Yeah she's very very direct and intense but only because she cares a whole fucking lot. Also I'm autistic so I dig that😅 She lives and breathes this work. There were so many times when I've heard something before but it finally clicked the way she put it together. She works beautifully one on one with people. If you resonate with her approach or not ~ she's spitting straight facts. Always has. Very intelligent woman. I hate seeing her judged that harshly by folks who don't get the first thing about her. She's very resilient and a lot of the big mouths here wouldn't stomach half the shit she's been through in the last few years and then still be able to show up like this but okay. Think what ye will. I'm loving this interview, thank you both!

[@BeatheSommer]

And I just LOVE your comment 😍

[@keepcreationprocess]

I have been always defending her wrote pages of my review to protect the woman - why criticize her.....because she exposes thos bad people by telling us the truth.....truth hurts those evils

[@23brogers]

YESSSSSSSS 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@crossingbridge11]

Wow! The moment she addressed the awkwardness and tension in the conversation that she was spot on about, my chest opened up and ease came in. It was as if a cloud parted and finally there was a clarity about the depth and distance they each was at. That's actually where the energetic flow opened the door.

[@pseudohuman2645]

Timestamp?

[@kristie2187]

The tension, the resistance, comes from her continued superiority complex and refusal to have any humility. Resistance is her projection of her inner conflict onto anyone she interacts with, including her host.

[@kristie2187]

The resistance comes from Teal’s continued superiority complex and discomfort with any proximation of humility. Resistance is her projection of her inner conflicts onto those she interacts with, including her host. Glad to hear she has been working on this the past couple years, it’s been a long time coming… But she’s got more work to do. Wishing her courage and grace.

[@syno9211]

She addresses it because she knows that she fucked up in the interview and exposed herself as an absolute fraud. All he had to do was let her speak. This woman has serious mental issues and comes across to me as a psychopath. Please don't fall for her trap.

[@yulanwong]

that was my favorite part of the interview as well!! it's so refreshing to see someone address the resistance or awkwardness upfront in an interview and just pointblank ask the host where that resistance is coming from and how they can help to break it down for them.

[@thewisdom-monkey]

First time I heard Teal Swan speak I honestly thought she was an alien in human form. Her knowledge and the way she conveyed messages was something I’ve never experienced before. She has deep wisdom

[@Jbellz28]

I was zoning off until she addressed the friction which was obvious to the viewer.. love her authenticity and willingness to dive deeper. Her work is needed ❤

[@Dap740]

Teal swan as a truth speaker - yes, it might be ruthless, because we are feeling major discomfort when presented with certain facts. But as she said: She is not nice, she is kind. She speaks on these things because she has our best interests in mind and cares about us, not trying to just make us feel good. That would be easy... Thank you, Teal! This was awesome and so valuable, with the pain in my chest I'm feeling hearing about the suffering on the planet. I take those...❤

[@mattyb808]

One of the best conservations I’ve heard in 2023… maybe ever. This sister is the real deal. She’s 100% authentic no b.s and expresses the hard truths the majority of spiritual podcasts avoid. I’m not ngl as a first listener of Teal she’s super intense but I really believe that’s what we need now more than ever! Keep bringing that big boss ass Gemini energy sis!!! Much love! ❤

[@Peace.Beyond.All.Understanding]

I totally agree!

[@carecree888]

I think the discordant energy she feels is that she exists so much in her mind. I speak from experience. I’m obsessed with research and information. To the point where it could be mentioned that gathering information is a means to feeling safety that she mentioned women need. Women (recently) have found safety in residing primarily in their minds. Which confirms the part of the conversation about women adapting to a masculine dominated world. His invitation to connect with the heart was very difficult for her. I feel that. It’s hard for me as well. And because she’s a spiritual teacher, she mentioned people have a hard time letting her be human - letting her trauma be so active. We can bring wisdom and still be completely “identified with suffering”. It’s an interesting dichotomy she spoke of. I appreciated how at the end she was bold to ask a direct question of Andres experience. Again a classically masculine trait but one that brought a lot of authenticity to the conversation non the less.

[@rongike]

tbh she has more masculine energy than Andre.

[@jazzmineloreal]

This is one of the best comments. Thank you for taking the time to craft your response.

[@danip6056]

I totally agree with you. Her ( at least to me) level of badassery is nuts! I resonate with A lot of stuff she says tbh but I perceived such a level of control in her words that truly made me pause for a bit. Totally agree that she's just Nother version of me. Thanks Teal for showing me my overprotective side

[@TALIACORNELIUS]

I AGREE❤ Beautiful pov

[@kamilaewska1663]

It’s so crazy how Teal said we come down here to expand the consciousness of our ancestral/family lines and during my Ayahuasca trip I was shown how I’ve descended to enter into my step-father’s family line to alleviate their pain. In the process I have literally become an energetic vessel that allowed the pain of all their ancestors to pass through me and disappear into a vortex of energy that opened up above me. I saw hundreds of shadows standing behind me and letting their pain pass through me. My body was in convulsions, I was crying my heart out, but it was so cathartic. I was shown that this was the main reason for my coming down here again. I was shown that everything I have ever done, every kind gesture, every kind word, my presence and awareness and way of being brought light into their lives. It revealed to them there is another way of being thus expanding their awareness. It was an incredible trip, and many other things have happened during that ceremony, but this part totally relates to what Teal is saying here. It wasn’t something I was expecting that night, but it brought a completely new level to my understanding of my purpose here, and it’s nice to find confirmation of this out there in the world through interviews like this. Thank you Andre for having Teal on ❤

[@Psyme_]

This woman is carving the path towards light by being aware of the darkness and it’s ultimate power. So much clarity after this session. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@germank7924]

Didn't she say darkness upon darkness will be descending for a very long time?

[@Psyme_]

@@germank7924 That’s the theme of this current yuga (as per Hindu mythology). Kaliyuga is all about attachment and illusions. So the very challenge is to go beyond.

[@PPplubploy]

Teal Swan is not pessimistic, she is truthful and full of insights… She lights up my world helping me makes so much sense of this world I live in, and yes the collective..

[@Bright_White_Wave]

WoW!!! This interview was so raw and truthful! I have seen the future Teal talks about and I am really needed the message she shared today of "be the change" because like most humans, I think I can "do it tomorrow" and yet, the only time we have is NOW. I will be processing this interview for a while and will leave with the phrase, "it is always the darkest before the dawn." 💜🌈

[@tamiaj851]

Thank you for sharing your perspective! You’re so right, to act NOW is tremendously more difficult than planning to act in a tomorrow that isn’t even promised. However we certainly can do this, let’s go team 🙌🏾🩷

[@suzim3300]

Teal, first of all… thank you for your beautiful vulnerability. Your light is so bright that I think it overshadows others lights and all they have visible is their shadows. You are awesome and those who don’t see that have had their 3 D reality so compromised by toxins that arrive on every level to their bodies, minds, emotions and souls that they think their shadows are the real thing. They feed off your truth and then have to deny you because they cannot possibly embody the understandings you are able to communicate and their shadows leap into action to make sure they don’t see it. The more of you I hear the more I, and many, appreciate your absolute wisdom. You are an encyclopedia of the psyche from many dimensions. Thank you for your work. Stay with the pain ( I know you will) cause you know the rewards take you closer to your souls chosen journey. Many people love what you do and say and will not abandon you.

[@twocurrents]

I’ve been learning from Teal for over a decade. I whole heartedly love her and respect how courageous she has been in her life. The Dark Feminine is not for everybody but I’m unquestionably better for having met her.

[@andyjm7122]

Love Teal. No nonsense truth about spirituality and self-awareness.

[@bertrandmichotte1501]

I have watched tons of Teal's content and never has she felt more tangible and human than in this interview. Maybe it's because she opens up about the depths of who she is and where she's from. Hearing her speak about her own family line has certainly had a strong impact on my perception of her. I find this especially interesting, considering what she shares here about there being no space for the messiness of her humanity in the public eye. This conversation certainly made space for it. I have enjoyed every piece of it. That last bit about resistance and friction really drew me in. Way to work with what's "most alive right now". My most sincere thanks to you both.

[@priyankakhatri1887]

This has been one of the most real conversations I feel like I have been a part of … in nearly a lifetime. It is beautiful to see honesty in all its rawness!

[@saganhuxley]

I’m an autistic mystic and after watching this interview I’m curious if Teal is on the spectrum.(?) There’s a long history of being misunderstood/misperceived when you’re neurodivergent-the brash honesty, profound awareness, and authenticity are often threatening. With respect to this interview, there’s a deeply fascinating multidimensionality that I’ve never seen evoked in Teal before and would definitely state that this is the best interview that’s ever been held with Teal.

[@dominickbass]

What’s an autistic mystic? Or is that exactly what it sounds like? I’m very curious!

[@hotpants9267]

You’re dead on…. I’m not suggesting she has a diagnosis however I don’t believe anyone with diagnoses as yours and my sons and many of the disabilities community are disabilities AT ALL! You are a gift with gifts and shouldn’t be labeled unable…. Unless of course it is UNABLE TO CONFIRM AND LEARN AND DIGEST THE KIES OF CONFORMITY! Find you calling and shine! Your pointed the right way!

[@rongike]

I think she's depressed and she just sees the 4th dimension not the 3rd like the rest of us.

[@saganhuxley]

@@dominickbass You’re right on! I’m autistic🧩 and a mystic 🧙 , and have *always* viewed/perceived/felt/understood the world through a different lens than the mainstream (or whatever has been deemed “normal”). Every single day it feels like I’m an alien in this world-perhaps I’m an Andromedan + Syrian hybrid for real, though. ☺️🫶🏼 I hope you have a wonderful week! Blessings to you! 💜

[@saganhuxley]

@@hotpants9267 ✨💜🫶🏼🩵♾️ What a glorious message! I have such joyful tears and expansive heart energy from reading your reply! Reciprocating that beautiful energy right back to you! ♾️🧬🌀✨

[@Healingvibrationsbymatt]

This was one of my favorite and probably most insightful interviews. Most of the guests are in alignment with the vast majority of Andre and each other, each puts new flavor or color on similar ideas-it’s very helpful! But to get to witness the polarization in this interview, which I felt was handled well by both, was more insightful than most. I appreciate Teal calling out a perceived resistance, though I’m not sure she eloquently put it to bed, she tried to get ahead of it. And I sincerely appreciate Andre asking for criticism as well. Thank you for this ❤️🙏🏻❤️

[@anca20101]

Trying to get ahead of it😂😂😂 yesss!!!

[@mrspaulinagarcia]

I wish Andre was braver to face his emotions of resistance and be more open about it. Show how masculine can handle vulnerability. Other than that - great great interview!

[@R0CK0Nbaby]

Yes very well said! Teal brought a different angle to the usual spirituality we hear (one of the reasons why she is so misunderstood and gets so much flack, I think). Different perspectives are essential for self/soul expansion

[@missmegandixon]

I LOVE TEAL!!! I feel bad for what's happened for her. She's been profoundly misunderstood.

[@stephyraw]

Wowwww!!! The conversation at the end was intense but so REAL and CONFRONTING and VULNERABLE. Andre showed immense grace throughout, I really appreciated him working to hold a loving space in order to close things nicely, he did us viewers a favour there; I was starting to feel very anxious/uncomfortable with the confrontational clashing of energies that Teal felt strongly to address (to her credit that was a very courageous thing to do, to name the elephant in the room). I believe we are all here to shine our light in unique ways, both Andre and Teal are playing their part beautifully. For sure Andre’s light, calm and loving energy is more palatable, but I got a lot from Teals message and perspective too. There’s room for it all, our minds can conceive of anything! It’s all just data, and as stated, it’s how we choose to direct ourselves with our intent and actions that matters most for the trajectory of things on a micro and macro level. Sending big love to anyone reading this!! I absolutely adored pouring over the comments myself, so many enlightened beings waking up at this point in time, full body shivers over here 🥰🥰🥰💗💗💗🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@nidhimathur2563]

Dayumm! The wrap up was so powerful, friction and all...love how teal cuts through everything that's said and heard and felt to really drive the message home.. definitely not your typical podcast

[@williamredmond4290]

Thankyou finally someone talks the truth and not dreams. Humans must change the way we treat our neighbors from the heart.❤

[@anacoffey6836]

Listening to Teal usually leaves me with this uneasy feeling that I am consciously being manipulated. I feel like the underlying energy beneath her words is constantly changing or maybe I just can't pinpoint what exactly her motivations and intentions are in any given moment. It's disturbing in a way that leaves me uneasy (kind of like when someone gaslights you) - but also makes me question everything I think and feel in an interesting way. I think that anyone who says they know the TRUTH is someone who's words should be taken with large grains of salt. Not ignored or dismissed, but appreciated with discernment. I think Teal does present a lot of thought provoking points and I appreciate her frankness and vulnerability when it comes to discussing her own journey. I agree with the idea of embracing our humanity is paramount and that personal empowerment come from looking directly at our darkness and understanding / knowing our dark potential and choosing kindness anyway. She has done amazing things with her life especially considering the trauma she has lived through and the continual controversy she endures on a daily basis. It was interesting to see how uncomfortable Teal made Andre feel at times and I think he did a good job navigating that without allowing the podcast to become a psych analysis of him personally, which I think could have easily happened. Overall, great podcast!

[@blue_sky_bright_sun7599]

it’s an interesting thing

[@blue_sky_bright_sun7599]

you explained this nicely. i relate with what you said

[@you-vi2tm]

Good comment!

[@andrewchristie3139]

Yep she was 100% trying to psychoanalyse him when he didn’t ask to be. For a spiritual community the people here seem to be pretty oblivious to manipulation and gaslighting 🤡

[@mountainwander]

I have a similar reaction. I am very wary of ALL teachers and I try to feel her out by following the underlying energy. I like a lot of what she says and the way she conducts herself. She teaches lots of truths but I also feel a thread of dare I say... spell casting. Those are the best words I have to describe the energy I sense underneath some of what I feel from her. No teacher is incorruptible in my opinion which makes my discernment work on overdrive when listing to any of them and particularly this lovely lady.

[@michaelaking5964]

My goodness, I love your truth. I have just found you and the goosebumps are real, I should not take that on but everything you have said makes sense, I can understand you pain, we all want enlightenment, power etc. but I’m super happy you have this and you are sacrificing your happy place to help us find a happy place, oh to meet you would be a explosion of energy for me. I could go on and on and on. But for now today Thank you Teal, it’s lovely to meet you, you don’t know me and may never will, but thank you 🙏🏻 🫶🏻 I hope your light never burns out 🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@Bhima_up_side_down]

Hands down, one of the best discussions I’ve heard. This soul and her rawness had so much shakti, it’s inspiring 🔥🔥🔥 Been waiting to hear this discussion. Thank you Andre for holding space so beautifully🙏🏼

[@Dragondaughter96]

This is probably one of the best interviews with Teal I've seen so far, great questions, great answers, thank you so much, what an amazing exchange to witness

[@jasmineaum7739]

At the beginning of the conversation...I felt it...by the middle of the conversation I literally said out loud to myself, there's something off about Andre's Energy with her and I became very curious what that was about because I have never experienced that in any of his other interviews. I think it's amazing that she brought that Energy, what she calls "the rub," out in the open at the end. Very interesting.

[@lis4203]

Right, a very real conversation. I felt it too! Nice to see that kind of authenticity!

[@anca20101]

She brought that out to fix it and be ahead.. but she create that energy herself..very awkward and negative energies coming from her side .. She even tried to gas light the interviewer like its him who create that He was so calm and respectful of what he was hearing..but not giving her what she expected..Full approval That's what she wants She's still suffering with superiority complex

[@helenee.5462]

Same - he seems terrified. She is so intimidating and cold, and for someone like André I think that being around people who’s in their minds and not their hearts don’t feel safe. Understandably. To talk to Teal you need to have your inner warrior on. You need to be able to riff intelligently, and joke about it. I think he was a bit in over his head, and she did not make it easier or help him in any way..

[@Goddessdariia]

Her authenticity triggered his own shit . She is not pessimistic. I felt bad for her and wanted to give her a hug. She is misunderstood

[@deepwater726xxxx2]

I felt the rub between them but I felt it was caused by the fact that he couldn’t fully understand her and wanted to bring her to a safe zone for HIM. He dropped the AI topic that she wanted to go deeper into.. would be interesting to hear her further on that.

[@RememberingWhoWeAre]

This is my introduction to Teal and this has been a difficult interview to listen to. I don't live in fear, I live in trust. But I'm so happy I listened to the very end, to hear Teal's final message, which was what I needed to hear. I'm not doing what's most important to me right now, I know this, so I need the inspiration to come out of hiding. I am. .. . Thank you!! I fully believe that we ultimately will unify back with Source, which is not a physical journey, it's a journey within our individual and collective consciousness. The journey seems to take time. Eternity. But we can never be separate from God. I think that's what we'll ultimately discover ... that we never separated to begin with. We're just experiencing a journey of separation to realization that we never were. I have found a key to the way through, like diving through an oncoming wave, is to love how God loves.. unconditionally. I love everyone and everything, including my self, unconditionally. I see all as God, all as One. I call on Divine help a lot, and I get help. And I pray for all souls often. This is my recipe, and it's serving me very well. Life is beautiful, heavenly, actually, despite the many, little, difficulties. 💕

[@yukiaimee5063]

shadowwork at it’s finest. uncomfortable yet freeing. Thank you Teal! She is the only speaker that touches upon the shadow in this way and she carries pain a lot of people can identify with, which is often missing in other teachers, ofc bc tgey had different pasts. Teal teaches us what to do with it ❤

[@SageLazuli]

Idc how the media tries to portray Teal Swan, to me, she’s the only spiritual teacher who actually makes sense. I’ve been listening to her for almost 10 years and I feel truth every time she speaks. She isn’t only love and light (which is unrealistic). She acknowledges the darkness that all of us face. She can hold both realities and have it make sense. She has an incredible gift of communication. I got to meet her at one of her events recently and it was amazing. I’m so happy you brought her on ❤

[@jajo492]

“Both realities are true”. Exactly! Thank you! I feel the same frustration and I agree with her statement.

[@Xzsxztreiii]

yeah its tough

[@Higherlovehealing]

This is the BEST conversational post I have EVER heard, definitely a 3-4 time listen for me to totally be able to plant this truth within and integrate it, wow, I am beyond grateful to you both And for her relentless, unapologetic assignment to a deeper truth that spiritual workers or humanity in general has looked away from, and she mirrors it back with such confidence and poise, I’m just wowed obviously at the potent radical truths 💗 grateful

[@GemLeo0679]

“The power struggle just goes away” I can’t even put into words the feelings one has when they are able to put their superiority on the back burner to recognize someone else’s power

[@missmarisaferreira]

THIS WOMAN IS BRILLIANT.. seriously, so thankful for her and being on earth at the same time as her. Just amazing 👏👏👏❤️

[@alexiarohdin879]

Truly brilliant 💥

[@tamiaj851]

Holy consciousness 😅 this was one blessing of an episode. Two powerful souls interacting so deeply, truthfully, authentically and gracefully. Love how you both respectfully challenged one another’s perceptions whilst educating the masses. I have absolute chills, the gems dropped in this episode are honestly priceless. Have rewatched, paused, re winded and sent the links to friends and family to experience this incredible soul to soul interaction. You have both healed, opened, nourished and allowed so much healing and ascension with the experiencing of yourselves as one another. I cannot thank you both enough for sharing this. Blessings to you all. Thanks again André for always holding such a safe and exciting space for souls to interact on profound levels, your divine masculine energy is a true gift❤ and thank you Teal for your unflinching honesty and total embodiment of the true, honest and wild feminine 🫶🏾 Wow wow wow, will be rewatching this episode until kingdom come 😅

[@karenmorgan5656]

I have only seen Teal a few times but as an astrologer she seems to be the archetype of Chiron. She has a deep wound from her own personal suffering in which she wants to build a bridge to help others who are suffering. But I still feel she is in process of suffering. Thank you to Andre for the insightful interview if there was friction it was most likely a vibration clash 💙💙

[@NeatGreen]

This has been the most profound conversation I have watched potentially in my whole life! Between pessimism and optimism is realism - The contrast of which you both spoke to! I adore both of you!

[@teffinylablue8687]

My favorite part of this whole podcast was witnessing two souls whose perspectives though at times seeming quite different, dance cohesively and respectfully in a manner that let the others light come through. My tendency is to feel the resistance in the air and get triggered, thereby interrupting the natural flow that often leads to the most profound and beautiful message. Andre, thank you for showing us what grace looks like when one sits confidently in their own truth without judgment of another. I learned so much from both of you 🙏❤️

[@tamiaj851]

❤❤❤

[@mrbob4819]

Her authenticity is refreshing AND I can see why it would rub some the wrong way. I totally agree with many using spirituality as escapism versus actual growth. Fascinating discussion.

[@lisetteem588]

I see a lot using it as judgment; "when ppl dont resonate with you, they do this to you or hate you". Rather than focussing on their own work.

[@SoundBathsByAud]

This is my third time watching this episode. Whenever KZbin automatically starts playing one of your videos I know it has the messages I need to receive. This has become one of my favorite episodes. I remember the first time watching it I felt Teal was being pessimistic. Each time I’ve taken it in I understand the concepts more deeply and today I feel in awe of her. Great interviewing as always.

[@miroslav_g]

I want a second podcast where Teal speaks exclusively about AI.

[@brendanewberry]

Yes, please.

[@_celine.carla.chloe_]

i need it actually. I feel quite frustrated, that they didn't go deeper into it. But i guess it wasn't the time yet. Very interesting take she has on it!

[@melaniemccallum1922]

me too ...

[@joniwinston9637]

Yes, specifically I would like to know how to have a healthy relationship with AI, I don't want to be a slaveowner. And I realize that former slaveowners thought they were right from the consciousness they were living in.

[@gitavalimaterdey267]

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[@KatherineRivard-c4o]

Teal Swan is brilliant. I love how she bluntly and unapologeticly breaks it down. Her words are sharp and to the point with precision. 🎉❤😊

[@Kamaya-gn8pf]

Genius, gifted, brave, strong. I appreciate her so much❤

[@lisaariottiart]

I agree - her brain is lightning fast and her command of language and story telling amazes me. I would love to see her on a podcast in a different genre -- perhaps a contrast like a discussion with Lex Friedman--

[@TheSunshineService]

An unconditional commitment to truth, facing the shadows in a way that provoke the light! What she says may be dark and envoke fear but we must realize it is the collective reality and it is our responsibility to conserve our energy within our individual lives. It is about the day to day & not letting extisential stress get to us as we raise the frequency of the planet! It is to be aware but know we cannot control humanity’s path that is key! Sending so much light and love to all and wow what an awesome interview

[@thedevinebutterfly717]

Wow. I am blown away by the depth and realness of this whole interview. I think the whole conversation is almost like an example of that contrast of what you were both talking about at the end and how she was saying that their will still be duality but it won’t be so drastic. I feel like the conversation talked on many what could be triggering topics but held in such a safe container that it didn’t trigger fear or anger but clarity and light on a lot of unconscious things and I felt brought empowerment and hope and understanding. Loved loved loved this! Thank you both so much ❤

[@lookingglassesandrabbitholes]

Teal knows that if she was feeling the "rub", that that was about her and yet she put it on Andre and the audience. I think Teal is truly amazing, AND I don't see her owning her own friction. Teal's delivery has the energy of "take me on, bitch", even though her wisdom is so beautiful. You can feel her sadness and anger and then, even though Andre was (from my perspective) feeling some tension, he was holding that tension with grace and then Teal seemed to project her tension onto him and asked him to defend his perspective. This is what I think I saw. What I think I witnessed is Teal seeing HERSELF in a new way by sitting across from someone who refused to take the bate of challenge and the viewpoint of her being a victim of her fame. I loved watching Teal and Andre and the humanity that they both own. I have HUGE respect/love for each of you for being this raw and vulnerable. This was beautiful and I saw my own defensiveness represented in Teal and also my capacity to contain more and more grace when it shows up in people who have experienced DEEP pain and just need to be loved.

[@RobotKoch77]

Beautifully put I felt it the same way

[@odettegibbs2238]

I felt the complete opposite. That Andre kept wanting to dissociate off into lighter places which made him feel more 'comfortable'. He simply didn't have the capacity to hold her depth because he hasn't done the anount of personal shadow work that would require. He is, after all, quite young. A great counter example of a man who can hold Teal's depth is Robert Edward Grant. He recently released an interview with her which Andre could learn a lot from.

[@sovamau1119]

@@odettegibbs2238 yes, agree. he was bypassing and deflecting the whole time. honestly it was hard to listen to the interview bcs of him.

[@LeahBreHappy]

I agree, I could tell he did not want to go there. She will go anywhere but he wanted to change subjects@@odettegibbs2238

[@Venus_Beaver]

@@odettegibbs2238i agree but feel it may have been a bit of both. I just listened to that interview with REG and you’re right… it was great. Highly recommend

[@lucasthehuman242]

Teal is totally on point. I feel that there is not such a thing like choosing a short or long term focus. She is pointing to the difficulties are coming. Where we need to focus to prepare ourselves to deal with a immediate crazy future. We can’t choose to look to the next coming after that just for looking at something positive. She isn’t sharing her view in order to show her abilities. She is using her capacity to help us to see coming what is coming so we can do something about it. I don’t see any negativity. What is coming is just bad and the direct consequence as the actions of humanity. Just thank you Teal, you are stunning.

[@brendanewberry]

Powerful interview. Thank you Andre and Teal. The last 5 min were the best for me. So much came out of Teal's request to explore the resistance. I love Andre as an interviewer.

[@TATandme]

I love following Teal. She’s so brutally honest, and you can walk away feeling depressed but only for a moment because she makes you think so deeply and then you realize where she’s coming from and what we all need to do and be aware of.

[@shiatsuequino1121]

My compliments to YOU Andre’ . Like always you maintain and uphold an unbiased platform for whom ever you are interviewing. You are a true journalist, you did a great job !

[@Xzsxztreiii]

I appreciate this. shes brilliant but its tough material to digest

[@Xzsxztreiii]

more work is needed besides just learning also

[@eset22]

André did a great job and I felt it was not easy at all. I agree with the friction and to a certain degree understand both sides. It felt a bit like Teal was in the usual "things should always go my way" in the end and she kept steering the conversation in a way to make sure she gets a particular outcome. She is human, it is fine but I felt for André who - despite being in his own environment - did not look particularly comfortable. Anyway, I feel that Teal is definitely tuned to the pain body as she herself puts it, and that is great. I agree with many things she says and appreciate that she does not bypass reality, but I also see that she is not walking the path she is preaching which is neutralism. She shits on lightworkers because they are too identified with the Light side and that is legit. But she herself in whatever she says seems overly identified with darkness. It is evident she identifies with it (the words she chooses, her tone, her topics). Buddha said "when I die, send me to hell, so I can help there." Buddha said that because Buddha was 100% neutral. With Teal, anything she says just speaks to the core pain body, but does not do much to transmute the pain. It's like, this is the deal, you are doomed, now live with it.

[@rongike]

exactly. and what she says resonates with a lot of people who are also still depressed and looking for help in spirituality. like there was definitely a lot of wisdom in her words as well but it felt like a hurdle she hasn't overcome yet either, so it felt more like wisdom she's gathered rather than embodied.

[@empowerment.artist]

I love Teal so much, and yet I also question some things of course. F ex when she teaches about the law of mirroring, and yet never addresses how the haters may mirror unhealed parts of herself. The pushback from outside may also very well have been a humbling of her admitted superior complex, from source/universe/higher self. I have been humbled in life, too. So while I have the outmost respect for her, I also see some of her flaws.

[@eset22]

@@rongike Agreed, she has some wonderful techniques she shares, but it never seems or sounds like she actually does them or that she takes responsibility for her own mistakes. As someone else wrote in here "her own shadow is palpable". The danger I see in here is that when someone preaches to the pain body, the people that are in the worst type of pain will respond to it because they need help, but when you are led by a blind man, you might end up being swallowed by the dark bog.

[@paigepatterson4021]

Well said. People are complicated

[@R0CK0Nbaby]

@@empowerment.artistThat’s what she was saying in this video that breaks her heart, that because people view her as a spiritual teacher they don’t allow her to be human with all her triggers, reactions, and flaws. Your last sentence proves exactly that. For me the teachers I trust the most are the ones who have been through shit and are going through shit, rather than someone who speaks in theory and never experienced any of it

[@adrianstanica5586]

Teal... Your message I hear and understand fully, I get lost in fear and my own shadows... and today these messages helped heal my mind just because your intelect can touch mine and I don"t feel so alone... Your inner power and wisdom are so beyond words for those who can receive the truth, I resonated with all that pain hidden behind your smile and it just gave me so much... because I am inspired to keep pushing through... till that day comes when I am also able to put out my gifts and complete my path in this life. It is so hard to be so separated from your soul family... I am in Romania and ... you can imagine how lonly I am because I mostly listen to american youtube. I cannot contradict a thing you say... I just want to listen and let that light emanating from your Spirit heal me, thank you... You're a beautiful GODDESS and I am so proud of your work. You mastered all that dark energy and bring us the light. May God bless you with peace and end your karmic cicle. Andre, thank your for holding the space for us to receive that feminine energy that sooo much needs a voice! Greetings and love hugs to all the good people here. Andreea a.k.a Heart Queen

[@Nate1975]

I actually like her superiority because it is BOTH a real excellent and a deep vulnerability. Both manifest because she is human. Such a great example of everything in one woman

[@RubenGT]

1:32:22 i definitely felt that resistance almost the whole conversation. Thank you for getting it into awareness which helped it to melt away.. (by openly and vulnerably talking directly to it) I truly believe this is one of the most powerful paths to healing.. the self awareness and the courage to bring it up in difficult conversations. More than everything else we should always strive to be able to be present enough to be a potential healing agent for ourselves and others we might be able to trigger or mirror somehow 🙏

[@gracegarza3299]

Thank you for articulating my take away of this interview❤

[@candlevictoria7742]

Yes! So thankful for this conversation! Get real, look at the dark, the scary, the hard, the misalignment, the tragedy, the sadness, the despair! I feel this! It’s a hard road, and enlightenment is ferocious ripping apart of what is. It’s not comfortable. 🙏🏼💗 thank you Teal for your deep honesty.

[@Cookiesbychris]

I felt the pessimism he was talking about BUT I think it came from the utter truth and straightforwardness of the reality being spoken. The truth is hard to hear sometimes. We need to hear it in this way wholeheartedly. She is a blessing to our humanity 💕✨

[@530spackers]

Thank you Andre for being a strong courageous directed masculine container for Teal to express her intuitive feminine gift. My soul yearns for more of this on this planet, may this dynamic be replicated in all of us