Now that you know how to use ThruLines, figure out if they are actually accurate in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4G3d6Jqrs1oiqM
@christomashofski91604 жыл бұрын
Hi, new subscriber here. You touched on a long-standing confusion I have had with ThruLines that confirmed my suspicion but glossed over the critical fundamental "how to" step, leaving me clueless as to how to actually fix it. I have both my DNA kit and my wife's linked to our joint tree. Mine works fine but hers doesn't, and you confirmed what I suspected the problem was. But at the critical step the video just said "there's a link to fix this" (or words to that effect) but then did not explain how to find that link or what to do with it once there. I gather that I have to create a whole separate, duplicate tree? Can I just create a stub or stem with my wife's name and then link the trees somehow, or do I have to reduplicate all 4000+ people in a standalone tree? Thanks for any insight you can give me!
@randyking30573 жыл бұрын
Why does LifeStories default to siblings being half siblings when you have only one parent in the tree? Maybe you only want to show the blood aunt, blood uncle, etc. Is there a way to get them to be full siblings without adding the other parent?
@deckocards69885 жыл бұрын
Great video, Devon!! I was not aware of the ThruLines icons within the pedigree view. I'm looking forward to more of your videos :-)
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
Glad you learned something new.
@Downeastwaves5 жыл бұрын
I did a lot of merging last night as a lot if DNA Cousin we're attached to my tree but as a relationship like 1C of wife of Uncle. Yes, this is true but she was my Mom's DNA Cousin. So I searched each surname in the list and merged the duplicates until I found who I had twice until voila! 9C1R on a French branch!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. Cleaning up the tree is always worth doing.
@bcr8tve3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tips! I never knew that I needed to turn on the ACCESS Points in each of my trees. Also you said when scrolling thrulines, change the magnification. Game changers!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@RubyRobbins4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! You’re such a good teacher, and you helped me a lot. I look forward to watching your other videos. ❤️
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Aww. That's so sweet. Be sure to tell your friends and genealogy buddies about our channel. That would help a lot.
@SueC562 жыл бұрын
I don't know if things changed. You CAN definitely click on one of the suggested inline ancestors to find their information and link them to your tree directly. Thanks for your videos.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics2 жыл бұрын
This video was made several years ago when ThruLines were first rolled out. Thanks for sharing your updated experience. However, I'm not sure I want to add people directly from ThruLines without further validation of their relationship. The ThruLine trees are not genetically based trees. So... I would be very, very careful.
@tommelinn42682 жыл бұрын
VERY helpful, thank you!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, glad you enjoyed it.
@garybiggs61674 жыл бұрын
A very thorough and understandable explanation of ThruLines. Many thanks for the great vid.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Happy to help. If you have more questions. Let me know.
@palmcottageguy5 жыл бұрын
Great information. You have have confirmed what I was assuming about the information in Tru Lines, but I was unsure whether my assumptions were correct. It seems to be another great tool that will likely evolve over time t do even more. Thank you.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
What was your assumption? I'm glad I confirmed it but I'd love to know what it is.
@barbarahawkins79305 жыл бұрын
Devon... Thank you very much for your powerful response. I very much appreciate it. What you said about the possibilities of a Parent Change and Hidden Family Secret makes more sense to me after I called Warren County, TN Library and spoke to a Genealogist there... She said the same thing thing about Hidden Family Secret/s especially when it came down to a particular 4th great grandmother... Never could find any actual proof... so that particularly makes absolute sense. Also, the same thing when I called an Historical Society in Gainesville, Missouri.... The gentleman told me the same exact probable situation about a supposed 3rd great grandpa ( his mother was the one in Question) ok now, it appears it's beginning to be clearer to me since my very own grandma Maude Myrtle Bennett's 2nd great grandpa Thomas Hobert/Hobart ( spelling isn't the best sorry) Lord was born in Christian County, KY 1805 and his supposed mother Milliford Whiting was born 1779-80 ( no one knows where she was born or her parents) and she would have died in Bedford, TN 1827 no one knows her grave.. her supposed husband( father of Thomas H Lord) was born 1775 in GA ( or Maryland) and re-married to a Elizabeth Baumgarner in Rutherford, TN 1829 so yes, something is fishy for sure. Also, I noticed Thomas Lord's middle name Hobert or Hobart wasn't it a usual thing that a son's middle name was either a Mother's surname or else a Grandparent's surname? Lastly, Thomas lord's sister Rebecca Lord was born 1807 also in Christian County, KY while all the remaining siblings were all born in Coffee County, TN and it all makes sense why my grandma's Mtdna test had a few matches but all those women were related to her father's Bennett line. Maybe that is what could be explained by HIDDEN -SECRET PARENT ? Thank you Devon for your suggestions earlier !
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your struggles. Hobert or Hobart doesn't necessarily mean it's a mother's surname. It all depends on the naming traditions of specific families (and their likeliness of following it).
@LeeRalph1004 жыл бұрын
Lots of good info, but The most important thing was @11:29 mark. I actually have two families that people continually add the wrong info in their trees (mixing of unrelated people with similar names) because the copied from other faulty trees. I too have spent years trying to correct this error..I even added a tree for one of these wrong families to prove that they are not related to my line...YET Ancestry suggested them as a potential ancestor...using that very same tree I uploaded proving there is no connection LOL
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's frustrating.
@connecticutaggie4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help getting me started with ThruLines. I have tried it a couple of times; but, found some of it confusing. Your video helped. Note: I am a Townsend descendant from the Texas Townsend (Asa, Emma Nell) branch.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Howdy fellow Townsend. My Townsends don't seem to have made it to Texas. However, I can't trace back past Maryland in the 1840s. So, you never know where we intersect.
@johngilmour89454 жыл бұрын
it is so easy to enter ancestry! however it is a labyrinth of steps, not everyone can navigate, I would go Elsewhere for any genealogical source!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics3 жыл бұрын
Ancestry.com is a fairly intuitive platform, which is great for many beginning genealogists.
@flagger75714 жыл бұрын
Very good info Thank you so much
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
No problem. Glad to help.
@staceycoates14185 жыл бұрын
I am actually finding that they are updating at least current Thrulines fairly quickly, like in minutes. I am currently going through my matches and seeing which ones are in my tree and which ones are not. And some of them should be in my tree (or at least their parents/grandparents) but I haven't worked on that line. So for example one DNA cousin whom I have message I know where we are connected. I have family genealogies down to her dad in my possession, but I have never inputted the information into my tree. So I did. And now it is showing the full line. Another one I was working and there were two sisters and I just could not find who they married or an obituary that mentioned their married names but for some reason on the match page I clicked on the common ancestor. And now the match's mother's name showed up because now it was in my tree. And this was like not even fifteen minutes since I updated the tree. Granted, that Thruline was already there so it was just flipping from the private information on my match's tree to what information is in my tree. But it is a trick I am now using in my research, though I would only trust it at the parent level for the match.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that the updates are working for you. I think my tree has a red flag on it or something. When I did dramatic changes, it has taken 2-3 days for the ThruLines to change. *sigh*
@aquilaclark8145 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stacy..That was some super good advice you gave me I really appreciate your help..😋..I will just put that 2nd great grandfather on hold for a while longer ..until I can get some more concrete proof😋..
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Stacy is a great help in the community to be sure.
@kirstenh88395 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank You .
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Anytime.
@connecticutaggie4 жыл бұрын
In my tree, I see several ancestors that have the ThruLines icon on their tree entry; but, when I get all excited about the possibility of new insight and ask to view their ThruLines, all I see is me. Why? I thought the ThruLines icon was an indication that there was someone that had DNA that connected to this entry (other than me) - if not, what does it really mean?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
That is a great question. I haven't been able to reproduce this. Typically, the ThruLines I have will have at least one other person (which is typically my brother or aunts). Now, there might be a condensing of the ThruLine tree. If if you expand certain parts you'll the other matches (usually my aunts are hidden). You might have to click around a bit.
@connecticutaggie4 жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I am also a developer so I know how important it is to be able to reproduce a problem to be able to reproduce a problem both in finding the issue and confirming the fix. I haven't played with this in a while. Let me see if I can still reproduce it and see what else I can discover about it.
@MrSquareart4 жыл бұрын
Nice video!!!!!!!!!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@janeuffordbartlett8265 жыл бұрын
I have the DNA results of several people linked to my public Ancestry Family Tree, and not all are direct line ancestors. If I want to take advantage of the power of Thru-Lines for these people, do I need to unlink myself and link each, one at a time, to that tree?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
It is my understanding that you can only link one DNA test to one tree in ThruLines. I could be wrong, but that's what I've been told. Each test result is supposed to be in separate accounts, but you can manage them (you need to grant that access in each account) and you can navigate between them as well (I do this with the accounts that I have managing access to).
@janeuffordbartlett8265 жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I just took a look at the people I have connected to my tree who are not direct line ancestors and have taken a DNA test with Ancestry. Thru-Lines is showing up with all. My question is answered. Apparently, it works even when you have more than one test attached to your tree.
@Downeastwaves5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Anytime.
@nothelpfultonk7383 жыл бұрын
My mother was adopted. We know what her name was before she was adopted. Should I just use her name given by her biological mother when trying to find my maternal family?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics3 жыл бұрын
If you're building your tree for genetic genealogy, yes. That's the only way to possibly get the ThruLines to work. However, if others don't have your mother's biological name on their tree and you don't have her parents or grandparents on your tree, ThruLines still won't work because they're based on what people have in their tree. However, as you add biological relatives for your mother, you should see ThruLines work. Good luck. Thanks for the quesiton.
@Maxmillion21004 жыл бұрын
The ThruLines Icons slider button is greyed out. Why is that?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure where in the video you're asking about this.
@marianneodell76373 жыл бұрын
I tested with 23 and me. I suppose I have to take another test with Ancestry to be able to use these tools?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, yes. But, you can transfer either 23andMe or Ancestry to MyHeritage, FamilyTree DNA and GEDmatch for little to no cost and then you're in all the relevant databases.
@XTIENNA4 жыл бұрын
Can this be done on a phone?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
I don't beieve so but I know many folks access them through a tablet.
@user-jh4lp3kz5l Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to produce a non-DNA 'ThruLine' to a common ancestor in someone else's very complex family tree?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Is this what you want or what you've discovered? Ancestry has added the feature to show a few different paths to a DNA match. Sometimes one path is a paper trail path and others are genetic, but both paths are based on someone's family tree. If possible, I'd recommend that you migrate your Ancestry DNA to other platforms. How to Download RAW DNA Files kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4uXp6yBqriLl5Y Then try out the Genetic Affairs tutorial that Andy shared this past weekend. kzbin.infoLnZ13VCkRfc?feature=share
@SereniaSaissa5 жыл бұрын
i thought this was like the Autoclusters that My Heritage created - but its actually more similar to the Theory of Family Relativity that My Heritage uses. I dont use Ancestry. I prefer My Heritage.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
You get a gold star. This is very similar in concept to MyHeritage's Theory of Family Relativity. (Shh.... I actually like that one better and will be explaining so in a month or two due to the back log of videos).
@barbarahawkins79305 жыл бұрын
Hello Devon... I have a question about thru-lines. If there are ZERO matches showing for thru lines when I get the ancestors in the 1700's, could this mean at that point in my suspected ancestor/s that I put onto Ancestry.com mean I have the wrong people as my ancestor/s or could it be that I am (cousins as well) the only family related to these ancestors of the 1700's? Boy, I sure hope you or someone on this comment section can answer this ! I am also guessing that Thru lines might be the key to confirmation about suspected ancestor's relation that I put down in my tree. Is that pretty much correct? Enjoyed your lesson today.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
The questions shouldn't be the year of the ancestor but the generation. Let's start there. Which generation are you trying to see an ancestor that's from the 1700s?
@barbarahawkins79305 жыл бұрын
Devon, to answer your question... it's my 5th generation 3rd great grandparent born 1763 York, SC..and 6th gen 4th great grandparents and 7th generation great grandparents 5th great grandparents in North Carolina and SC they had been from County Down, Northern Ireland...then on to Lancaster, PA and on south to NC and SC then finally down to TN and MO. Not one person is claiming them except myself ! This is why I had asked my original question wondering if they could be a wrong ancestor ! Thanks Devon.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
You're still working with the the possibilities of genetic matches. I have a video that will be addressing why you don't have a ThruLine in different parts of your tree. Short summary: 1. You have a mistake in your tree 2. Your matches have a mistake in their tree 3. You or your matches do not have enough identifying information in your DNA linked tree. 4. Your DNA relatives have not tested. These are the top possibilities but it's also possible that your paper trail research is accurate (or that of your DNA matches) but there was an unexpected parental change (i.e. a hidden family secret).
@aquilaclark8144 жыл бұрын
I am om thru lines..Then I click on the potential and it says zero matches I don’t understand right click on it and it says I am the only one tested..I don’t quite get this
@aliciaweiss3265 жыл бұрын
Does a tree linked to your DNA results need to be public to use ThruLines? Both my husband and I have our DNA linked to private trees and ThruLines shows only ancestors from our own trees (not common to other testers), which is pretty useless as of course we already know we are related to the people in the trees we constructed. Thank you,
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
If you want to have a private tree, you need to mark it as searchable on Ancestry. Otherwise, the ThruLines do not work. So, you don't have make your tree fully public, but it needs to be searchable. Hope that helps.
@aliciaweiss3265 жыл бұрын
Family History Fanatics Many thanks.
@bettinahalpern56554 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info. It is very helpful, but the problem I am having is in helping an elderly (89 year old) DNA relative find out how we are related. He reached out to me & I know from mutual DNA relatives that we are related thru my maternal grandfather who is a Keith. I then hit a wall, a hard, brick one as all our mutual relatives led nowhere. I asked him to add my 3rd ggparents to his tree to see if it would create a thru line (at that time it was DNA Circle) and got no luck. His daughter also placed my 3rd ggparents in her tree & I notice she now shows a ThruLine to these relatives. My question, do the ThruLines and DNA matches always go together or am I wasting time in trying to put these DNA relatives into my family by using the deceased grandparents where I think the DNA relative may fall? I always believed the DNA and the ThruLine would have to be consistent, but now I am not so sure.
@bettinahalpern56554 жыл бұрын
I watched the video on ThruLines and you have answered my question. I love your videos, but wish I had discovered them sooner as you are saving me so much time.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you were able to answer your problem before I had a chance. Wish you had found us sooner, but not that you've found us, welcome aboard.
@vagal23125 жыл бұрын
My only issue with ThruLines right now is that it is adding the ThruLine icon on my family view and pedigree view to my step-mother even though we are NOT a DNA match. My mother passed away when I was a teenager, so I don't have her DNA. I do, however, have my step-mother's DNA. I added her in my tree as the 2nd wife to my father to show my connection to my half-brother, and I have his DNA as well. I also double-checked to make sure I am still showing as the child of the correct couple. When I go into the ThruLines section of Ancestry, it does show my mother and the correct ancestors there. I don't know how to get that ThruLines icon to go to my ancestor (my mother) so that it will flow correctly in my tree views. If anyone else has this issue to know what is causing it or how to fix it, I would greatly appreciate it.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
We will be discussing this in a forthcoming video, but yes, Ancestry ThruLines are genealogical lines not genetic lines and it's tough to pivot when there is a step-parent, adopted parents, etc. Have you identified your step-mother as such and your mother as your biological mother using the edit relationships form?
@vagal23125 жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thanks for the reply! I do realize that Ancestry ThruLines are genealogical, but I didn't know if by adding the DNA to my step-mother and not my mother that it caused the display to skew somehow. I do have everyone's relationships setup correctly (just checked those again) and even double-checked in my Family Tree program in case it was syncing something that was incorrect to my Ancestry tree. I just can't find the issue. I may have to delete my step-mother from my tree to see if it changes over as it should and then add her back later. Thanks so much for all your sharing on this channel. I greatly appreciate the hard work of you both.
@aquilaclark8145 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video thru lines has helped me a lot ..I only have one ☝️ problem ..what bothers me is when somebody gets put in my tree ..as a potential..and the owner of the tree has no records of this person..I contacted and them and they won’t respond..it leaves me wondering is this really my ancestor..Especially when the great grandparents are a different race..It’s not that I don’t believe them because fifth and sixth dna cousin matches are in the line ..it would just be nice to know where this information came from....Do you think maybe this person had access to overseas records with the upgraded subscription ..is that why they won’t respond??..I know it gives them access to more overseas information..I’m just very curious to know where they got this information from..
@FamilyHistoryFanatics5 жыл бұрын
You'll find that many people have undocumented (no records) attached to their trees because they are either lazy (they don't take time to add sources) or uninterested in documents. There are a few that have unsourced trees that have are based on genealogy sources but they don't share those sources publicly because they don't want people to 'steal' their research. There is a greater likelihood that they don't have the answers you seek because they didn't do quality research. However, one could hope they haven't responded because they're on a fabulous vacation or in the hospital recovering from surgery (or the birth of triplets). When they have a chance they can respond. All of this aside, use their tree as a clue. Do the paper research that could validate the research. If you can't find records supporting the theories, you can temporarily disregard the potential ancestor until more information becomes available (or the person with the tree responds.)
@douglasvilledarling29354 жыл бұрын
Family History Fanatics lol I agree with people not listing records. Especially those who don't want you to "steal" their work. Well, they had to get the info from someone else's work. So selfish!!!
@johngilmour89454 жыл бұрын
I would suggest You find a more reputable source for any genealogy information! just my opinion!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics3 жыл бұрын
Genealogy is about collecting a vast array of sources. One source rarely provides definitive answers.
@marioulrichb.a.56074 жыл бұрын
Blood test B4 marriage is where I am.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
Not sure that can help with Ancestry ThruLines. Ancestry is a spit test.
@marioulrichb.a.56074 жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics ok, that clears up my confusion, thanks.
@skydaver24 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is " are the trees connected to your matches accurate?" No not very
@FamilyHistoryFanatics4 жыл бұрын
The matches are only as accurate as the genealogy in the trees. That is something I hope I pointed out.