Ancient DNA reveals the truth about Vikings - BBC REEL

[@markbirkeland5643]

As a person of 100 % Norwegian background, I find this program fascinating. My great grandfather Kolnes whose picture I have looks like a Viking from a picture book. His name was Enoch and he received a medal from the king of Norway for saving the lives of a shipwreck in the Stavanger area by rowing his rowboat into the north sea and saving people from shipwreck on the rocks.

[@AmidaNyorai48]

😯😯

[@macktheripper7454]

Probably because this show is just propaganda

[@rancidpitts8243]

@@macktheripper7454 Propaganda is to influence people to an end, a purpose, a conclusion. Just what end those this Video want us to believe. As a product of the Southwest United States, a Heinz 57 of ethnicities, I can understand the Vikings varied lineage. As my great grandfather told my father, "I am pretty sure there are no Eskimos in our family tree. But don't bet on it".

[@arislopes1924]

I’m Latino and my grandpa also looked just like a Viking with a long white beard and apparently he also had light eyes. But he was Portuguese.

[@Ms123kill]

Back in the days when men had balls and strength to that

[@matthewg.2086]

I find listening to Eske Willerslev’s Danish accent more fascinating than his conclusions.

[@eblita3698]

As a Dane, yes, both twins (Rane and Eske) speak with a quite distinguished accent, I think from Gentofte. Even when they speak Danish I have a very hard time to block this away and concentrate on the content :)

[@cdl0]

Danes are like the Geordies of Scandinavia. :-)

[@SlofSi]

I though he was English, but he's not - he's Danish. It's just...you can't tell, 'cause he doesn't have any accent.

[@TeslaDanser]

Its like woody Allen had a child with his Danish step daughter

[@elvenkind6072]

An even more fascinating thing is to listen to a Scandinavian language with an English accent.

[@hevnervals]

I wouldn't call adding Anglo-Saxons and Celtic peoples to the warband very diverse. The genetic distance between the British isles and Scandinavia is tiny.

[@MrTangent]

And the Angles, Jutes and Saxons originated from Northern Germany/Denmark. Anglo-Saxons are basically pre-viking Vikings themselves. They left the lands that later Vikings lived in hundreds of years prior. So genetically they’re probably extremely close.

[@user-vl8fb1gu6k]

@@MrTangent I did read somewhere that anyone who claims to be able to distinguish genetically between Vikings and Anglo-Saxons is talking nonsense, given that they were effectively the same people.

[@xoxb2]

Classic BBC. They lived in Scandinavia, had a Scandinavian culture, and were overwhelmingly Scandinavian genetically. But because all human beings started somewhere else, ancient groups split and spread across the world, and sailors pick up partners in ports, bits of other genetic material are also present. The BBC gets ammunition for its assault on common sense and European identity.

[@antoinemozart243]

Wrong ! The british isles population shares more DNA with France and Spain than Scandinavia !

[@MrTangent]

@@antoinemozart243 *laff*

[@freezegopher7054]

I don't think I've ever seen someone work so hard at speaking as Prof. Willerslev.

[@lindaross783]

I was just thinking that. Trying to figure out what accent ? Impossible

[@bonsummers2657]

Ahnold

[@bjek343]

​@lindaross783 Danish accent of course.

[@Loupdelou-ly1ve]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@OhMy1863]

​@@lindaross783Copenhagen accent.!! 😂

[@FrAnCo1818]

Imagine being a proud warrior, tough as hell and fight with no fear and end up in someone's office as a paperweight

[@Shot4ShotPhoto]

This is both hilarious and depressing

[@Musick79]

I find anthropologists treatments of burial sites disrespectful. RIP used to be sacred.

[@CreativeHuckleBerry]

@@Musick79 yes, very disrespectful and disturbing. -Viking from Ostrobothnia Finland

[@claudeyaz]

Was it for a long time at least in anglo cultures keeping around a couple of the bones of the decease was seen as honorable .. Especially during the whole momentous mori and tuberculosis explosion.. I mean think of The Vikings they always wanted to live in fight forever.. If they do true science and don't try and use it to push politics... He is technically fighting forever for his people's history

[@ibelieveinaccuracy.fact-ch5942]

Does that also include that Vikings were shipborne bikie gang who practised gang rape and murder of women?

[@alamudesky1959]

Showing a nineteenth century sail ship makes no sense in talking about Vikings 500 years earlier

[@resourcedragon]

I think quite a lot of the footage was of fairly sketchy reenactors. There was a pair of boots that stuck out as anachronistic near the beginning. And I would like some independent confirmation that Viking women wore septum piercings.

[@sutapachatterjee9527]

Oh well.

[@mrnobody3161]

Donate your authentic Viking Ship so it can be used in documentaries then ya buzzkill dufas.

[@OmmerSyssel]

@@mrnobody3161 Blablabla, there is hundreds of totally seaworthy Viking longboats available all over Scandinavia! You land lubber can even hire a short trip, if you want and dare to..

[@0kecske0]

Yeah the first pictures undermines and show the creators have no idea what are they talking about, just want to promote the modern trends.

[@jackieblue1267]

That man has the most Danish accent ever.

[@markhirstwood4190]

It's more his voice than his accent. Not all Danes sound the same as their voices vary a lot.

[@jramsey9690]

I agree. I knew his was Danish as soon as he started talking. His accent must be exaggerated because I have only a couple Danish friends and I spotted the accent immediately. Weird.

[@phil8821]

Sounds like he begins every sentence with swallowing a tennis ball.

[@OhMy1863]

He definitely have Copenhagen accent.!! Only people from Copenhagen talks like that.. 😂

[@AlxzAlec]

@@jramsey9690it’s super exaggerated, that’s how some Copenhageners talk. It’s so annoying

[@agneteht]

There are currently plenty of norwegians a swedes who are not typically blonde, yet their facial features are distinctly belonging to their countries. Sure, blondes are more common in nordoc vountries than elsewhere but Scandinavians are no where near exclusively blonde. Norwegians especially have all sorts of spectacularly "tall, dark and handsome" types and a fascinating array of deep dark blue eyes instead of conventional greyblues or clears. In fact you'll probably find more "typical" blonds in westrussians than in Norwegians. There are just a lot of assumptions anout what scandinavians look like.

[@TrudyBray-i8i]

Well West Russians are descended from Swedes who followed the rivers and left their DNA.

[@CecilSavage-iq9zq]

Vikings settled West Russia. After repeatedly being beat half to death by the Golden Horde they united under one king to stand against the mongols. Their new king promptly bent the knee and agreed to pay tribute the empire. Under the Khans peace the new ly formed Russian empire expanded from Finland to Alaska.

[@mxblyxky]

Nordic types are of Germanic origin and Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Polish, are of Slavic origin. Of course, it's not just the color of the hair, you can find physical variations in the population of countries that have people of Germanic origin. Predominantly many dolichocephalic or oval skulls. The Nordic type also exists in Great Britain due to the migration of the Germanic tribes of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes and in the countries colonized by England: the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

[@impishrebel5969]

@@mxblyxky England may have been in charge of colonies in America but it didn't really _colonize_ America and England didn't _settle_ America. America in particular experienced a greater influx of Germanic peoples during the colonial era, particularly from the German speaking parts of Switzerland and Bavarian Germans, than actual English settlers. This is reflected even in today's demographics in American ethnicities and how perception of German culture in America is heavily influenced by Bavarian customs. English settlers were largely in the minority compared to German, Irish and Scottish and even Italians and of the English settlers, many of the earliest ones were non-heir sons of nobles, or merchants, who were "granted" large swathes of land and opportunities to grow various crops and start enterprizes that benefited the crown, or were protestors to the Church of England (Mayflower) but that is one VERY small, and overly emphasized, part of the history. After volunteers from England were exhausted, they turned to criminals and exported them; they literally had to force English settlers overseas. Those who wanted an out in Europe or were fearful for their lives were the ones that willingly went and surprise surprise the vast majority weren't English. Elizabetth I may have started the colonies and built the great colony maker the East India Company (which is NOT called Trading Company-- that is strictly a fabrication that Pirates of the Carribbean did in order to avoid copyright as the EIC is still around) but it was not the English that formed the basis of the population. New England, hilariously, has more influences from German, Polish, Italian and Irish cultures than English. You can see it in place names.

[@MichaelHolmgaard]

Viking was a profession more than an ethnicity - But still only a Norse profession. The Vikings that went to conquer England never actually called themselves "Vikings" but only referred to them as "The Danes" because they were from Denmark. Viking raiders were Scandinavian. It's not like there were Southern European or African Viking hordes, nor were there brown or black people among them. But dark hair and dark eyes was very normal like we see in Scandinavia today. Blue eyes and blond hair was more apparent than in other places in the world, but never dominant. That is only Hollywood fiction. Long before the Viking age, Scandinavia had DNA from many places which makes up the Norse gene pool in present time. So the "diversity" they talk about here is nothing special and shouldn't be news, nor is it what they make it out to be. It's basic probability theory that no European race is 100 percent pure. White people come from somewhere else like anybody - They didn't grow from trees lol

[@bladeswelove]

Some people...they just want to push their M.C. narrative and will use any shred of evidence no matter how weak to craft the story they desperately want society to believe.

[@julianshepherd2038]

@@bladeswelove Vikings got about. Certainly S Europe, N Africa and into Russian Asia and the Middle,e East but once there they stopped being called Vikings and became Norman's or the Rus. They were remarkably adaptable and dropped their old culture and religion to rule whoever they had conquered. When they stopped being called Vikings they didn't stop their acquisitive behaviour The DNA shows your racial purity does not exist because people move and always have.

[@julianshepherd2038]

And dont forget that that the North of Scandinavia was part of the northern cold cultures that mixed across northern Eurasia because no one had discovered being European yet.

[@dinkster1729]

@@julianshepherd2038 In Quebec, the government wants certain people to not work or access public services if they wear conspicuous religious attire. That's carrying racial purity just a bit too far IMHO.

[@danielcrafter9349]

@@bladeswelove - dude, there's evidence of Muslim Vikings Get your head our of your arse

[@andrewgray4969]

I note that there was very little mention of Scotland, for some unknown reason. The Vikings in Scotland were from Norway and they ruled the north of Scotland, the Northern Isles (Orkneys and Shetland) as well as the Western Isles (the Hebrides). Those areas were all part of the Norwegian kingdom. Norwegian genes are a larger part of Scottish DNA than Danish DNA is in English DNA.

[@NailahRoberts]

I live on the Wirral in England that was inhabited by Norwegian Vikings that had been expelled from Ireland. 50% of the men in the Wirral of Viking DNA. I've had my DNA done and I have some Norwegian DNA too

[@TR4zest]

Oh no! They forgot to make the programme all about the Scots. Thanks for letting us know.

[@TR4zest]

@covidcarl7480 'By', pronounced 'bee', appears in many town names in the UK. In Norwegian, Swedish and Danish it means some form of settlement - a village, a town or a city. Think of all the place names ending with 'by' in the UK? Denby, Formby, Derby, Granby, etc. There are more than 200 such places in Yorkshire, alone. These towns were once Viking settlements. Over the centuries, each town would set up its own rules for residents and visitors, enshrined in what we now refer to as by-laws, the laws of the village.

[@dankovassilev58]

Celtic tribes coming 6 sentry BC from Balkans

[@aladrasullivan9018]

Ireland as well!

[@ismayilarifoglu6226]

Interestingly, when Thor Heyerdahl visited Azerbaijan and Caucasian region, he was shown the ancient petroglyphs (Gobustan) of boats on the western shore of Caspian Sea, strikingly resembling the Vikings’ ones. He also met people there with blues eyes and pale skin (living in mountains of Azerbaijan) , which have legends of their ancestors sailing with these boats to the North. But Norwegian historical science never accepted Thor’s hypothesis of migration from Caspian to the North along Volga river and further. It died out. Hopefully, someone starts his work again.

[@peterjamieson263]

Didn't Snorri Sturluson locate Asaland (where some of the early ancestors of some of the Scandinavian kings supposedly came from) east of the Don river. Not far from "West of the Caspian". That said, I got the impression he was guessing and ruling out various places such as Troy. But it does square with the idea that a number of groups over time have entered Europe from the steppes (e.g. possibly indo-European speakers, huns and other groups, and later mongols).

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

@@peterjamieson263 Snorre said that Odin(the god) came north from somewhere in the caucasus.

[@d.m6614]

Tottally agree with you. some years ago i was on visit in georgia, (where i was born). uppon hearing that i grew up in norway and now lived in denmark, our nabour there showed me a article in a magsine that resambled national geographic, just in georgian.. and there were pictures of huge stones, belived to be grave stones, with viking runes on it.. 100% they made it all the way down there, no dought. there boats had no problems on the rivers. they where in america long before columbus, but thats not what they teach in schools around the world.

[@chrismaurer2075]

@@d.m6614 I watched a program here in the States on the Discovery channel that showed proof that Viking's had been all the way too northern Minnesota. My brother had a DNA test done and it showed that we are Scandinavian and all this time we were told we were German.

[@d.m6614]

@@chrismaurer2075 Thats awsome. My step father, from norway, has a thing with his little finger, where the joint is stuck in one position.. couple of years ago, we had visiors, ad he told him that it was something only in viking genecis... so if you have famaly members with that, you can be 100% sure.. Yes i know they made it all the way over there to. off course, it wasnt called New york back then, but aparantly arceologists found writings somewhere, that described the river banks and everry thing. I allso saw a documentary, where aparantly the viking aølso met withe indians.. but that it didnt tur out well because the indians had offerd them some sort of milk in a ceremony, but the vikings got sick, because of lactose intolerant.. and tought the indians were trying to poison them 😆 the only reason they held back, was becaouse they were just a few in numbers, compered to the indiginouse.. The viking were sure interesting folk. Its a pitty bbc is trying to wite wash there historry, because of political convinience.. The besst to you and your brother. Greetings from Denmark.

[@OmenfromNature]

In the early 90s I spent 2 years in Pamir, Karakorum and Hindu kush mountains. In some of the most remote and isolate valleys I've met indigenous people with blond hair and blue eyes, we know that the Azores in the middle Atlantic ocean was inhabited 2000 bc so imo no doubt of the indo-european migration theory and much more frequent contacts than previous thought between ancient peoples. These people were more capable travelling long distances across land and sea than anyone believe.

[@ManteIIo]

This is legacy from Alexander's the Great conquest approx 300BC, they penetrated deep into Asia and subsequently on that path there was at least 200 cities founded and called after his name. It's a well known-topic all over the internet for the reasons why some people there have blue or green eyes as far as northern India states. Speaking of Azores, there is proof from some ancient greek historian, who wrote that Phoenicians described seeing sun rising and settling from the other side and added something in lines that he "didn't really believe this claim", but nowadays this is a direct proof that Ancient people were circumnavigating Africa, at least its western shores.

[@mutteringmale]

Most intelligent people, more intelligent than their others, have inquisitive minds and the thirst for exploration and adventure. "risk takers". Then there are the others like the Polynesians who HAD to flee into the wilderness of islands to get away from smarter, hungrier people on the mainlands for example. The world has always been a dumb vs smart Darwinian culling.

[@Weedkilla1993]

Robert Sepehr has some very fascinating stories, saying it dates even back way further back in time ..

[@covfefe1787]

@@ManteIIo that has been debunked long ago. Those people have nothing to do with Greeks however the come from the same blond hair and light skin population source from northern Iraq along with the Sinshasta culture in the Asian Steppe

[@thomasbest8599]

@@ManteIIo forget Alex. Read up on the yuezhi. They left a lot of DNA along with the saka.

[@systemlfo]

No races are ‘pure’ but they’re still a race but trust BBC to create a narrative in which they can say ‘diverse’ over and over

[@futuristica1710]

Cry harder.

[@disklamer]

Even better , there is only the human race, there is no speciation between genetic variations. The whole race thing is an invented religious trope to divide people.

[@jackieblue1267]

I did read the study and the diversity here is very much exaggerated.

[@GrubblandeGrapplern]

It's a total sham by the BBC.

[@sendmorerum8241]

Only the fraction of them traveled, the majority of course lived like farmers.

[@NickVenture1]

@Bryce Calabaza Yes.. there is a Celtic Scottsman skeleton burried in Scotland. And it shows typical DNA for a Celtic Scott. SO WHAT IS THIS SUPPOSED TO PROVE IN REGARDS TO SCANDINAVIAN INVADERS? That Scoots lived there even once the Vikings were active in the region? So what..

[@davidwuhrer6704]

@@NickVenture1 He was a Viking. He was buried according to Viking customs is a Viking grave.

[@NickVenture1]

@Bryce Calabaza Yes. Now we are two to point out that a Gaelic Scott buried in Scotland is rather normal. Even if he had adopted Viking habits.

[@iBlindPanic]

"Vikings are often thought of as 'pure-bred' "not sure where you guys come up with this kind of assumption, however blonde people were very rare and relatively speaking they were more common in the north same as gingers. By the way in all popular depictions they are show to interact a lot with many cultures, as expected if you travel the world in your little boat. Had to watch it to the end, science mixed with politics....

[@zoeydeu2261]

A lot of white supremacists in thinks that - that their forebears were all pure Aryan race of blonde hair blue eyed people including the Vikings. Even in the Vikings series, the key actors are mostly dark to light blonde. I also Googled "Vikings" and the images mostly show blonde or red haired and blue eyed people.

[@carljohan1234]

Lol. And that’s what you call a political comment. Politics always aim to make blonde guys seem pathetic and weak so you can’t have that Vikings were blonde. This broad, non-specific comment that they also had genes from other places. Of course they did, what a dumb comment, the were raiding and traveling all across Europe. Doesn’t mean most of them weren’t native

[@harrisiskandar8356]

And movies

[@davidwuhrer6704]

@@carljohan1234 Politics makes blonde guys like Boris Johnson or David Cameron look weak and pathetic? I guess they should have chosen a different profession, then. Vikings were pretty wide-spread, as mentioned in the video. And the video also mentions that they appeared to be native to the many areas they were from, be it Scotland, Spain, or Sicily. So the fact of the matter is that - contrary to popular belief - Vikings were not usually yellow-haired. They also had no horns on their helmets.

[@stefke5862]

A proven succes story about diversity within a shared culture. Not cultural diversity within a shared country 😉

[@chrisomalley50]

Correction: "Vikings are often thought of as murderous, thieving rapists who destroyed anything that they couldn't understand, which was mostly everything. In fact, they were a complete cultural vacuum." Isn't that a more accurate description of what most people think?

[@disklamer]

Rape, murder and pillaging was the norm in those days. I can't believe people never pick up on that. They always single out the Vikings because they aren't Romans or Christians or some other religious pyramid scheme, which is exactly the reason for all the negative propaganda, we wouldn't want our "good Christians" to leave the church for a more profitable career that does not involve tithing.

[@targetedplantsguy9481]

So, Viking was a lifestyle like say being a pirate. A mix of whatever culture that newcomers brought with them.

[@pricklypear7516]

It was an occupation, NOT a nationality. When people refer, for instance, to a "Viking child," I just have to laugh. It's like saying "an accountant child" or "an optometrist child." And while there is some, very limited, evidence of women being on board raiding ships, it's vanishingly rare.

[@Henry-Bukenya]

I was like being an arab, man people thinks that it's an ethnicity

[@Izznogood76]

@@pricklypear7516 Yes you went out on a "raid" to become Viking, you were no a viking at home. that is how it it thoughtt in Denmark

[@southernpaganprincess7739]

No Viking was a trade like carpenter stone smith and metal smith

[@gardnep]

Sounds more like bikie. Hells angels in a longboat.

[@paulgraham4496]

It would be useful if the BBC linked to the research. I did a search on Google scholar and cannot find relevant articles by Eske Willesley or Martin Sikora, so it is impossible to assess their claims or the BBC's interpretation of them. I know David Reich argues that European populations are made up primarily of hunter-gatherers, farmers from Anatolia, and the Yamnaya from the Steppe. I would expect Viking DNA to reflect that, but who knows if we can't read the research discussed in this package?

[@mombaassa]

You'll probably have to search the catalogues, at a University library... or, just send an email to the BBC and ask them, perhaps??

[@chasinglightandtrails]

Eske Willerslev was published in Nature, I believe. Are his sources cited there?

[@dolekanteel2178]

The two groups you referred to are the recent Neolithic era invaders of Europe, the natives who had the fair European features you see today and who represent the third component of the genetic makeup of modern Europeans are referred to as the Western Hunter-Gatherers in archaeogenetics.

[@rubenfranzen8912]

True true. At Uni I was bombarded with the importance of showing your sources. But the BBC makes mayor claims (I guess with good sources) but do not showes their sources.

[@sneeringimperialist6667]

What separates science from storytelling is peer reviews...

[@mikeseigle5560]

Perhaps the reverse is true. Gentics elements that are found outside Scandinavia and anong Vikings originated in Scandinavia first. Far more Vikings for example settled in Sicily and Anatolia than the reverse.

[@pinchebruha405]

God I’ve always been extremely fascinated with the Vikings my son asks me if I hang out with such tall girlfriends that I think I’m tall like a Viking too. I’ve felt it in my bones I’ve always known I’m Sicilian but I didn’t know my Vikings were there!!!

[@glennleedicus]

Curious as to why they never go into that at all. Almost as if “Diversity” repeated ad nausea was all they wanted to spew as their truth. It is the BBC, after all.

[@carolsaia7401]

My Sicilian father had ple skin, dark hair and blue eyes. He always thought he had Viking in him. Nope. Italian, Greek, Sephardic Jew and No. African DNA.

[@glennleedicus]

@@carolsaia7401 I believe it. Did you know that Scott’s have been traced to North Africa as well? Egypt. They took DNA samples from the mummified Pharaoh’s. The point is, if we can trace ourselves to these other places, where can those other places trace themselves to? It’s not as if we all left and those are just the peoples who stayed behind. Repeatedly this is what programs like to leave out. Given that during the ice age, nobody was really occupying much of Europe. So, where do we come from? And when did we leave? Here’s more for you, that may surprise you. Dating in Egypt is coming under increasing scrutiny with some saying the Sphinx dates back to the end of the last ice age. That those we have credited with building the pyramids are just those who claimed credit by writing there own narratives and histories over those who predated them. Do you hear what I’m suggesting? It’s not like it’s unheard of. Just look around and see what’s happening right now. History repeating itself, that’s all. Another thing to consider. The slave trade from Europe to N. Africa. More slaves from Europe than to North America. Any European living on the coast, or daring to board a ship, was under threat of being attacked by the Barbary pirates. It was a slave trade that started around the middle ages, after the Muslims had captured North-Africa

[@midlander8186]

@@pinchebruha405 I saw an episode of "Secrets of the Dead" on PBS in which they examined the remains of a female warrior interred in a Viking burial chamber. In the episode they mentioned Vikings averaged about five and a half feet in height, which was not unusually tall for a European of the Viking era. Maybe their aggressiveness made them seem bigger?

[@marypiper8161]

I recently had a DNA test, and I found that Danish and Scandinavian genes were still present in my ancestry from my father, who came from Yorkshire!

[@PMMagro]

The "Saxons", "Angles" and "Jutes" ceratinly where close to the later Danes. They came over teh North Sea and conquered part of Britain (which had a large population they subduedand became part of) right?.

[@marypiper8161]

@@PMMagro The Vikings captured the city of York and ruled parts of the north of England for nearly a hundred years. My maternal grandmother came from the Anglo Saxon heartland of Somerset and my DNA inherited from her, originated from Germany! I find it fascinating that you can see how history is embedded in your ancestry.

[@michaelmelamed9103]

Still

[@Rommel1988111]

Sacandiavia includes Denmark

[@rebellefleur2993]

Danish people comes from Northern Anatolia.

[@alexanderguesthistorical7842]

The trouble is, in these days terms like The Dark Ages have been re-defined, in order to be more historically correct and accurate to the period. So the Dark Ages are now the "Early Medieval Period", AD and BC have now been re-defined as BCE (Before the Current Era). And yet, all the historians have not yet got to grips with the fact that the term "Vikings" is not only (largely) a more modern term, but is a completely un-defined term, which can include various different peoples in various different activities (or not, depending on the commentator), with no strict definition to categorise them. So working out "The Truth About the Vikings" is like trying to find out where all the slaves came from, in history, and what their ethnicity was. Define what "Vikings" means FIRST, then you can work out where those defined groups or individuals originated. Otherwise, taking a small sample of individuals from a certain place in time and history, establishing their origin, then claiming that you know where all the "Vikings" came from is nonsensical. Because how do you know if they were Vikings or not, and how do you know if that small sample is true of all the "Vikings"? You can't know, unless you define what "Vikings" were.

[@OmmerSyssel]

Vikings happened to come from Scandinavia. It is not that complicated... Globalism fanatics in our time, seems like removing or blurring any sort of boarders are of major importance?

[@droe2570]

@@OmmerSyssel The term "viking" as a noun to describe a certain people group is a modern fiction. "Viking" means sea raider. They were pirates, and they included people from all over the place. The term "viking" is a Scandinavian term, yes, but the viking and to go "a-viking" (raiding), is not a strictly Scandinavian occupation or activity. Criminals from all around were vikings, just as in the later period we have pirates in the seas between Western Europe and Africa composed of many people, all sharing the same criminal activity called "piracy".

[@patriciajrs46]

So true. I love this arguement/ assessment. A parallel would be to take a sampling of Native American Indians, do all kinds of tests and then say okay now we know all the Indians.

[@patriciajrs46]

@@OmmerSyssel I watched one of the genealogy programs that I like: the teacher asked this control group, is there anything that you don't want to be? Most of the group didn't have much of an answer. One young man said German, cause I hate Germans. When their dna tests came back two weeks later he had quite an interesting portion of German heritage. He was surprised.

[@bigtim3060]

@@droe2570 not as much a raider as an explorer

[@davidpaterson2309]

Altogether now, “Genetics and culture are not the same thing”. This should be the headline of nearly all such studies. Europe, or even just the U.K., is replete with examples of invaders adapting to local cultures and assimilating, locals adopting the culture of the new overlords who killed off their aristocracy, cultures blending to produce hybrids etc - and all of that being overlaid onto changes - if rather less dramatic changes - in the underlying genetic composition of the population. One of the best examples - and relevant to this piece - is what happened to the Norse who colonised and dominated the islands and seas of western Scotland, coastal Ireland and Scotland and the Irish Sea for several centuries. They became the “Norse-Gaels” a hybrid culture. Norse disappeared. The last ruler of the whole territory, in the 12th c, was Somerled “Lord of the Isles”. His sons divided it between them and their descendants became some of the most powerful and numerous of Scotland’s clans - who thought of themselves as Gaels and who retrospectively claimed Somerled as a Gaelic hero who resisted the Vikings. But the echo of the Vikings is still there - From Wikipedia: “Since the early 2000s, several genetic studies have been conducted on men bearing surnames traditionally associated with patrilineal descendants of Somerled. The results of one such study, published in 2004, revealed that five chiefs of Clan Donald, who all traced their patrilineal descent from Somerled, were indeed descended from a common ancestor.[165][note 20] Further testing of men bearing the surnames MacAlister, MacDonald, and MacDougall, found that, of a small sample group, 40% of MacAlisters, 30% of MacDougalls, and 18% of MacDonalds shared this genetic marker.[166] These percentages suggest that Somerled may have almost 500,000 living patrilineal descendants.[167][note 21] The results of a later study, published in 2011, revealed that, of a sample of 164 men bearing the surname MacDonald, 23% carried the same marker borne by the clan chiefs. This marker was identified as a subgroup of haplogroup R1a,[170] known to be extremely rare in Celtic-speaking areas of Scotland, but very common in Norway.[171] Both genetic studies concluded that Somerled's patrilineal ancestors originated in Scandinavia.[172]”

[@cardroid8615]

And in 100 years time we'll all be named after f****** Ali.

[@joannebattersby8365]

I was amazed that my last name has Norwegian roots. But looking at my family - Battersbys , Crockfords and Vowels are all from one area of England where there were the first Viking landings. And the other side is Irish and N. Ireland was a Viking city. There is likely Scandinavian DNA in our Inuits because there are enough legends. I know one thing - you wouldn't have wanted to see my Dad coming through the mists for you - 6'6" with a red beard that starts below his eyes and wild curly red elf locks and armed with 2 axes and a short sword. Although as a firefighter for 42 years he was exactly who you would want to see coming for you through the smoke. 🇨🇦

[@davidwuhrer6704]

@@cardroid8615 Don't you mean al-Lee? After all, Lee is the most common family name in the world.

[@ArghMatey]

@@joannebattersby8365 😂😂 that visual of your dad is amazing...I thought lord of the rings or game of thrones characters

[@macktheripper7454]

@@joannebattersby8365 your dad sounds like a marvel character

[@kl.9649]

Yeah, the Scandinavians spread across the world and married people of other cultures, above all the British isles, today's Russia, etc. That's been known for a long time. It doesn't mean that the Scandinavians were a recently "mixed" people. The population was mixed in the sense of it being a product of Yamnaya peoples who invaded Scandinavia and the neolithic farmers. Norway and Denmark has a majority distribution of R Y-DNA whereas Sweden has majority I, former being Yamnaya, latter being neolithic farmers. These people in the program want to make it seem as though Scandinavians were comprised of Afghans, Africans, Mediterraneans, which is just not the case.

[@cayennesinivassinel6977]

One day you will get it.... It's one set of people who went everywhere on the planet...( Pangea)...To Know ThySelf 💯 makes life peaceful...vs trying to continuously figure it out....The Truth is Right in our face😮

[@alvaromartinez8209]

The I haplogroup are Western Hunter gatherers, not neolithic farmers.

[@pbtube58]

The video talks about Vikings, not about Scandinavians. Apparently, Vikings consisted of Scandinavians and other people who joint them during the expansion to other areas, when they saw it as an opportunity. It makes sense to join a successful conquest, if you can.

[@richardcuttler7734]

@@pbtube58 In "viking" culture the eldest son inherits the family farm and the younger sons "go a viking", ie go and make your own fortune. Sailing and rowing through the rivers and lakes in Europe in boats, that could be dragged overland, those men were named by the tribes in Europe, the "Rus," which means "the men who row". Eventually they settled in, "The land of the Russ" which we now call Russia.

[@pbtube58]

@@richardcuttler7734 Good info. Thanks for remaining me about it. Now, I remember about reading about it. I think it was similar to the situation in England, where the younger sons had to go somewhere else, which contributed a lot to the growth of the English Empire.

[@jessicamartin787]

That guy learned English watching Arnold Schwarzenegger movies😂

[@SumFlyyyGuy]

Fantastic observation

[@frankthetank5445]

Get to da choppa

[@SumFlyyyGuy]

@@frankthetank5445 who's your daddy, and what does he do?

[@markfiedler9415]

I'm not gonna pretend like I have a clue about what real viking scandinavian culture was actually like, but there was nothing presented here that drastically changes the outlook or necessarily supports the conclusions shared.

[@thelink4492]

its the bbc never trust what they say these guys coverd up pedophile cases in northern England no joke

[@Aleksamson]

Because it's all about multicultural - ideological drivel. It's like 1000 years from now they would excavate graves in Sweden and find buried people from Africa, Pakistan...etc. And then claim that Swedish people were not white, that Swedish ethnicity means just eating meatballs or singing Abba or living in Stockholm.

[@thelink4492]

@@Aleksamson it wodunt suprise me they all ready doing its all ready happing with the cheddar man case trying to claim he was African and trying to claim he was an ancestor to every brit which is BS

[@Aleksamson]

@@thelink4492 Well, if we go back a long way enough we all came from Africa...if they want to make a Mesolithic cave man = English men

[@richardcuttler7734]

@@Aleksamson Yes, and "we" Homosapiens then met the Neanderthals in the Middle East and breeding with them gave us white/caucasian skin and a bigger brain. Those that then went from there to the east, bred with Denisovans and became what we call Asians.

[@SirAmicVarze]

Sounds like being a viking was more a job than some kind of ethnic identity.

[@danrooc]

Just as being a pirate of the Caribbean.

[@IvarDaigon]

the old Norse word vikingr was literally an occupation. like singer, baker etc. it is only much later in history that English romanticists turned that occupation into an ethnicity, William the Conqueror and his people did not consider themselves Vikings or even descended from Vikings.. they referred to themselves as Normans literally norsemen/northmen.

[@PhoenixLyon]

LOL ✌

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

@@wildschwein9066 .. but yes

[@thekentuckyan8088]

If that’s what you wanna believe but no

[@HonorAndWisdom]

I understand that you want to be able try and dilute what it means to be Scandinavian to try to include migrants from the other side of the world that has arrived in the west the past decades, but you don't have to basically lie about the conclusions. What the research actually states is that, if Scandinavian men married a woman of a different heritage, the vast, vast majority were other Europeans. The thing with blondeness i can kind-of see, since the Scandinavians valued attractive, blonde women to bring back from raids, which in turn slightly increased how common it was. We know that the Scandinavian DNA hasn't really changed much at all since the viking age, don't try to mislead people into believing anything else.

[@rebeccaspires8532]

THANK YOU!!!! I totally agree! Someone’s always trying to change history of white people and muddy the waters to take away who we are.

[@GenomeSoldierDK]

lol what kind of crackpot theory is that ? x) the western migration has nothing to do with this what so ever. x) the only two ethnicities that are mentioned to have shown up in "viking" DNA were from Scotland and Asia. Not the middle east, which is where the migrants are mainly arriving from today. Besides, it has been known for years that going on a viking was a very specific lifestyle undertaken mostly by people who could actually afford to take such a trip - i.e. probably vassals of jarls, and their retainers. The nobility. And usually to find more fertile lands. However many more were traders and merchants- and as such would make friendly contact with a lot of different ethniticies and cultures. And since many viking adventurers also gained renown through their raids, many would also marry into the nobility of other realms. Like with the formation of Normandy. And since we know for a fact that the scandinavians reached all the way to the Byzantine Empire and also know that they reached the Silk Road, it is not a stretch to say that some of them might have copulated. And that their offspring would become raiders too.

[@HonorAndWisdom]

@@GenomeSoldierDK My point is not in conflict with yours. My critique lies not with the paper itself but the way it has been utilized and weaponized in media. When you regularly see titles of articles like "The vikings were far more diverse than we initially thought!" refering to this paper without being up front with what the paper actually states about the partial non-Scandinavian DNA found within various vikings of the time, is to willfully muddy the waters. What most people nowadays associate when they read the word "Diverse" is non-european. And since most people dont bother with reading full articles with even fewer deciding to dive into academical papers, it basically means that most people get a very warped view of the reality. They also suspiciously try to skirt around that fact within this video.

[@Hughleik]

this is exactly what this is about. hardcore propaganda to destroy the northern heritage

[@GenomeSoldierDK]

@@HonorAndWisdom I agree, if it is indeed being used to mislead, then that is wrong. I don't know if I'm missing context though? The clip in isolation doesn't seem (to me) to make the point that because Vikings were more "diverse" than we initially thought - therefor our societies should be. In other words, I don't think it is trying to be political. The video is basically just two scientists explaining their findings. :b In heavy Danish accent as well xD but you tell me if there is more to this story. If they are somehow using it to make some point about today, then that is dubious. :)

[@stephenlight647]

😂 The Vikings were super diverse! Most of them from Central Africa and they accepted everyone from across the world as Vikings, no matter where they were from! Amazing BBC work. Also, they never invaded coastal towns. The Coastal people, mostly from Pakistan, invited them to increase their artistic variety! If I send this script in, the BBC will have me writing for them within two weeks!

[@turtlefromthenorth]

Independent of dna, we know that the people wandering in from the south, came gradually after the ice cap of the last ice age melted. I`m from Norway, and what I was told growing up was that the first humans came from three directions, one wandered in from Sweden, southern parts of the country. The second group most likely came on ships and settled first along the south western coast. A third group wandered in from the north, probably Sweden and Finland (tall and blond). Those were hunters and gatherers. By around 2400 BC a farming culture were well established from south to the middle parts of Norway, cultivating crops, farming animals, farm houses,... I randomly read a report a few years a go on an archeological excavation in Norway, they said they could now date the viking culture (not the pillaging, but the farming and living part) to early second AD, and I think they mean the long houses they had, horses, chickens, cows, some artifacts. I have not had the time to check the facts here, or read up on the latest science, but if I remember correctly it should not be too far off. That is the basis of what the people in Norway around the Viking age. We don`t really know everything. During the medieval times there arrived travelers from southern parts of Europe, which is more documented. In this period from about 3000 BC they find evidence of an identical culture from Denmark in the south to Sweden and Norway in the north; a type of ax ( often called battle ax), farming, animals, woven baskets, burnt ceramic bowls and pots. It is funny how they claim to "change the story" and fit it to modern ideals of diversity, when there is little new a the basis of it, just a few facts added here and there.

[@JM-hf9bl]

Actually they came from Portugal, my land. Which is not really my land because all the modern Portuguese come from eskimos, which were super best friends with the bushmen. Why don't we all get along 😭

[@turtlefromthenorth]

@@JM-hf9bl lol

[@polybian_bicycle]

Don't forget the very visible LGBTQ+ representation among viking trading parties, and mandatory 40% female crews.

[@JM-hf9bl]

@@polybian_bicycle and the handicapped rowers. The Vikings weren't ableists. It's not like we're talking about peoples that left their weaker infants die when they saw they'd be a burden. (Spoiler alert: they did)

[@coldgazpacho7936]

I think research like this skipped the social system like it was back than. Slaves, vikings, lords, nobles, kings. If you don't know whether you're sampling any of these, or even worse, perhaps viking burials of those they'd slain, you cannot come to such strong conclusions. The logical reason the diversity decreased in the scandinavian region is because the import of slaves and wives, stopped at some point. You cannot conclude anything without knowing the social status of the ones you've sampled. This does sound like a (weak) attempt to justify mass migration, something the EU seems to love (and why there was money available for such a weak but costly project).

[@TheGoofy1932]

Totally cheaper to just go right into full racism, like you've done. 😆 🤣

[@coldgazpacho7936]

@@TheGoofy1932 how so? I think that you got to know to what part of the social structures the dna belongs to, to get more accurate ratings to justify any of the preliminary conclusions these scientists want to make. You need more information about the poeple you sampled in order to be justified to make the bold claims they do. Any (neutral) scientist remotely interested in the topic will tell you the same thing.

[@icarovieira5016]

This is the bbc, they want to prove that diversity exited all over Europe, they made a children’s cartoon about a roman officer who was supposedly black and claim there was a lot of black legionaries, when in reality the few black legionaries that where, was discriminated by the others, In regards to this clip about vikings, you are absolutely right, its weak and the samples they are investigating are most likely træl(slaves) graves, i live in Denmark and its sad to see how so many people here follow this American trope of wanting diversity in there history and dna, when these white blonds with blue eyes have a very interesting history and fascinating mythology, of the few things that were written down not being the edas, i heard once about a jarl who married a woman from far north of Norway where people look like siberians they tend to be somewhat darker in skin, they had kids who took after there mum and the jarl and even the mother was ashamed just because they were darker in skin tone. So i don’t find this research credible, you would have to be unintelligent to believe this.

[@permadsen1479]

Since it was common to bury the dead with some of their belongings, it's really not that hard to make a destinction betweeen their social status.

[@masons9541]

I always figured only rough men like the vikings would want to live in such an inhospitable place but they needed some farmers, miners, and women also which is why they went off on these raids, it was specifically for the purpose to loot but also capture people to help populate the scandinavian peninsula. To their credit though these societies were among the first to abolish slavery and were one of the most equal societies in the world up until the industrial revolution.

[@gothicwestern]

Makes sense. It's similar to the Sea Peoples. Basically, groups of pirates. Hence the strong connection between vikings and slaving. Meanwhile most Scandinavians stayed home and farmed.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Viking were mostly traders, and settlers. Not so much pirates. In the video it is right near the beginning that their trade routes spanned from Canada to Afghanistan. What isn't mentioned is that they also spanned down to sub-saharan Africa.

[@cliffgaither]

Thanks for the clarification about most Scandinavians staying home and farming. It's so easy to see all Scandinavians as out-and-about on the high-seas socializing w / their neighbors.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

The young men who did not own land were the ones who went to sea to find their fortune. That is common in warrior societies. After 20 years or so of being a raider/trader. A man was apt to settle down where he wanted to settle within the Viking realm.

[@casteretpollux]

It was the agriculture presumably that made the whole viking enterprise necessary and feasible.

[@restoretheearth2829]

Enslaving people who lost battles was very common across the board in those days.

[@wd2862]

The Vikings also lived on the southern coast of the Baltic Sea on the Polish side, the daughter of Mieszko I Świętosław (Sygryda Storrada born in 968) was the wife of the Vikings king Eric the Victorious (1 son), second husband Swen Widłobrody. She had 2 sons with him, Harald (King of Denmark) and Cnut the Great, one invaded England and the other stayed on the throne after his father. The language and runic writing of the Vikings / Etruscan is a Slavic language, the so-called runes Polish researcher, archaeologist Tadeusz Wolański 1785-1865 read inscriptions on Etruscan monuments. After writing the book, he received the protection of the tsar - a battalion of the Russian army (Poland was under partition), who did not leave him a single step so that he would not die for reading Etruscan inscriptions.

[@johnsjuk]

This BBC propaganda is so shameless it's unreal... as if a bunch of arabs and asians lived among them ROFL!

[@buddhatobe1]

so you saying they were black? I'm woke.

[@Lalaland33]

Oh kurwa jebana! Stop it 😂

[@kendexter]

Correct, was a lot of vikings who settled there

[@yllbardh]

What a heck are you saying??? _"runic writing of the Vikings / Etruscan is a Slavic language"_ Etruscans where assimilated into roman culture roughly thousand before viking emergence and that -both of these languages are slavic- is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard... IE yes but slavic NO, NO, *NO* . EDIT: *By the way Etruscan language isn't even Indo-European language.*

[@lowrider81hd]

I fully expected “We wuz kangz and sheeit, we wuz Beethoven we wuz Vikings”

[@namedrop721]

Dont worry they’re getting there. This data is extremely low quality and the bbc just makes flavor content now apparently. Too bad, I used to enjoy some content. I’m neither Scandinavian nor British but it’s interesting watching the tone shift towards covering fact in the name of guilt.

[@lowrider81hd]

@@namedrop721 I know.

[@aladrasullivan9018]

Exactly! 😂😂😂😂

[@xGlocklesnarx]

Rent free in ur head 🤓

[@lowrider81hd]

@@xGlocklesnarx Why not…. y’all expect everything else for free that normal people have to work for. Squatting ain’t no different from that.

[@cjames21]

So randomly Nordic people became blonde in the last 200 years since picture records started!? This is surely a joke

[@v-sig2389]

Yeah in fact, the vikings were mostly diverse, with asian-like haidressers, and gay black jewish doing haute-couture. Then, patriarchy made them all blond in the last 200 years, so we have to fight to get back to a real diversity like our black greek ancestors who invented philosophy or the arab french kings.

[@boc234]

We know what what the Vikings looked like because their little-changed descendants are still with us today. "It's not ethnicity that determines whether you're a Viking or not, it's a lifestyle." In other words if we redefine the word Viking to mean anything we want it to mean, then the Vikings weren't Northern Europeans. A bit like saying because people around the world (unfortunately) wear American logos on their clothes and adapt many American fads they're American citizens. Defining a people's history out of existence in service to eventually putting them out of existence.

[@robertmuniz1]

We also have to keep in mind that hair and eye color are both carried on the X gene, not the Y gene, so Y DNA haplotype distribution cannot be correlated to eye or hair color distribution. I see too many people jumping to conclusions just based on the Y DNA haplotype.

[@Falconlibrary]

"Defining a people's history out of existence in service to eventually putting them out of existence." Which is precisely the BBC's woke agenda.

[@RobotsandMonsters]

Exactly. Viking was a verb, that became a pseudo ethnicity. A bunch of Norseman in a boat setting sail to pillage and steal were said to be "going viking."

[@Steve-qq1qs]

❤

[@Boykot1]

Well said

[@MeagainIA2011]

My brother did a test called the BigY that only men can take that will reveal the dna from the paternal lines a lone. Prior to this test, earlier tests revealed that he carried a mutant gene that has been found in the Scottish Highlander Kings. They were fraternizing with the Vikings long, long before England. Our ancestry is now included in this specialized research and study along with thousands of others. They found that my great grandmother was of Viking heritage.

[@shadowsinmymind9]

@@graemelamont4094 wow. Reminds of how on the island where im from theres a family that carries a gene for 6 toes. Only that family and their descents have this genetic trait

[@thorselckmo7378]

@@graemelamont4094 pretty sure this is called deutron contraction or similiar and as you age causes your hand especially little finger to curl up... my grandad was invited to a study because he has this, that study concluded his ancestry was from coastal Norwegian villages..

[@d.m6614]

@@graemelamont4094 my step father, or the husband of my mother, has that with hes little finger on one hand, it is allso like that.. hes Norwegian

[@Dogscatsdonkeys]

Dupuytren's contracture! I have it. When it plays up and becomes sore, my doctor tells me it is the price I pay for being a Viking.

[@Chill1TV]

My grandfather is from Glasgow and he has that genetic trait. 3 of his fingers are frozen. He knows for a fact that he was descended from the Vikings. I did a DNA test. My mum only had 2% Norwegian and I had 0%. But it was good to hear that you can be descended from Vikings yet not hold Norwegian DNA.

[@AdalbertPtak]

Perhaps the most important fact about the Vikings is that they were mostly farmers and fishermen who went to Viking in the offseason.

[@efinlayson]

Outside of traders and royalty, isolated groups tended to have isolated dna and most of these dna studies that reveal "diverse" dna tend to be of Scandinavians at foreign trade centres or cherry picked examples

[@ShidaiTaino]

Define isolated

[@angela2726]

Yes probably true. Why would an isolated, un married person with no children have a test done !

[@aard9952]

Funny I have never seen a BBC report on the genetic purity of the Zulus. I wonder if they have an ulterior agenda...

[@oscarsusan3834]

Its a western agenda. Africa is “over there” ,mind you the Moors were “over here” but that’s not important.

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

Of course they do.

[@SoulStar2332]

Just the fact that you use the word "purity" shows that this is over your head...🤷‍♂️

[@joelsupery5981]

There is no doubt that Scandinavian Vikings were taller and blonder than the others. However, those who settled abroad married local girls for the average man and local princesses for their chiefs. The interest of local lords was to tie friendly relationships with these rich traders. That means that the Vikings born overseas were very often only "half Scandinavian". Even the chiefs and second generation may have been only a quarter Scandinavian. On the continent, the Vikings opened their ranks to any volonteer wishing to get rid of the Franks. People from Saxony, Frisia, Bretagne and Aquitaine joined Viking troops to fight the Franks. This is the reason why they were so efficient. Their scouts and spies were locals.

[@Lukky_Luke]

nah not true, look for example the pople before the vikings the Heruler forexample that came from Småland, they had pitch black hair.

[@renejagers4364]

@@Lukky_Luke Also, the Frisians where vikings till they got subdued by the Franks, matter of fact, being a viking was as much of a job as being a farmer

[@ruthenianthruth]

to claim anything like that you should provide strong scientific evidence. link to some research or something. and only then you can use "no doubt" approach.

[@kifi672]

@@renejagers4364 true enough. Going viking is to go trading. Which is the primary occupation of the people known as vikings before they were better known for raids.

[@aldosigmann419]

We will make the wretched Franks pay yet...

[@bud5084]

My DNA showed me being from the ancient aliens.

[@Thorkildzen]

I am of Norwegian descent born and raised in Seattle Washington around a bunch of other people of Norwegian descent and I have never heard anybody talk about Vikings as a race or being pure

[@David-js2vp]

Sadly it is a fantasy held by racists, attaching themselves to the legands of viking expansion, strength and domination to re-enforce their beliefs that their is an inherent superiority within a particular race. It is also sad as they seem to re-imagine a complex and interesting coulture into a two dimentional sociaty.

[@karlosthejackel69]

The rewriting of European history and their people is strong with this one

[@David-js2vp]

@@karlosthejackel69 When evedence presennts us with new knoledge and understanding it is not a 're-writing' but a 'discovery', meaning something has not been invented, but that something that was always there has been found :)

[@karlosthejackel69]

@@David-js2vp Funny how this ‘new evidence’ is always immigration propaganda, just like all those Cheddar men from Britain suddenly turning black the week after Brexit when even the scientists said the media was lying about it. Maybe it’s just me eh?

[@karlosthejackel69]

@@David-js2vp A nations history is not owned by ‘racists’. I’d like you to examine how Africa was originally Kho’sian before the Bantus expanded, over bred and inherited the land. But I’d imagine theirs no virtue signalling points to be gained doing that is there?

[@archaeorobbo]

Just wanna add, because I find it interesting, but 'Viking' comes from the Danish Vik, meaning bay or inlet of water. So Viking/ Baying would be an active action of travelling from bay to bay or town to town. Wic could also refer to a settlement, harbour or village from the Latin Vicus, York, was referred to as Eoferwic, Berwick is still called Berwick, Norwich, Ipswich, Dunwich etc. So 'Vikings' were anyone in northern Europe and beyond who actively travelled from town to town for whatever pragmatic purpose, trading or pillaging.

[@matthewg.2086]

Actually, the etymology of ‘Viking’ is hotly disputed.

[@archaeorobbo]

@@matthewg.2086yeah as I've shown by giving multiple interpretations of vic and wick, as a bay or a dwelling place.

[@starvictory7079]

It's called vik in Swedish and Norwegian too because....we are siblings.

[@helpmehelp3009]

Viking means summer travel, so when the horse winter was over the cheaf would ask the local lads anyone for Viking. They would leave some behind to look after there village town and the others would go Viking!

[@helpmehelp3009]

Harse

[@jnab0]

Kind of concerning how few people in the comments are skeptical of these conclusions and results.

[@hermankoopman9468]

Of course. Vikings were all black with browns eyes and now Scandinavians are white with blue eyes.

[@yolandazach]

Not all Norse were Viking, and not all Vikings were Norse!

[@schizoidboy]

I remember watching an episode of History's Mysteries on The History Channel (back when they still did history) the last scholar on the show remarked about how diverse the Vikings were through their travels and he said: "If you want to know what a Viking looked like, look in a mirror."

[@maggied8468]

Thank you for the info. Really interesting 😁👍

[@TomorrowWeLive]

What utter bs. What did this "scholar" have his degree in? Critical Theory?

[@schizoidboy]

@@TomorrowWeLive The thing was, unless you can tell me differently with historical backing, the Vikings traveled anywhere their boats could take them. They didn't just conquer, they also lived among others and also adapted aspects of the cultures they merged with. It's the reason they ended up Christians instead of following Norse religions. It's what happens with all invaders when they move into an area, they have babies with the locals and take up whatever that culture has to offer. It has nothing to with so-called "critical theory."

[@TheGoofy1932]

Exactly, it's the reason so many us still contain a small bit of Neanderthal DNA. They didn't "die out". They intermarried/bred with the CroMagnum people. But Tomorrow We Live seems like a fragile ❄ so 🤷.

[@pfranks75]

It’s so sad what happened to History Channel! I love history documentaries, it’s my favorite TV viewing!

[@srdjanbasaric517]

Talking about someone's genetics and not mentioning a haplogroup is stupidity or evil intent.

[@robgau2501]

Amazing that nobody is talking about how small that sampling is. That's really small relatively speaking. And who were they??? They're making alot out of a little. Honestly, I think it's just another attack on being "white."

[@VikingNorway-pb5tm829]

Jeg smiler :)

[@fabianhoigens4620]

Oh it must be so hard being white..... I feel so sorry for you mate....

[@opano4116]

whats the attack? south europeans...what like italians or mediterraneans? they are still whitish skin, or asians like what russians, or chinese?...they are still pretty white skin too

[@fabianhoigens4620]

As I said......I feel so sorry for white people.....how sad they must be knowing the tide is finally turning (is it though?)

[@jo18533]

@@fabianhoigens4620 Why what race are you?

[@spacelee190]

This doesn't change our understanding of history. This provides evidence of what we've long understood to be historically accurate. In a brief and very oversimplified explanation, Scandinavians abducted a wide variety of people from many lands during the Viking age. These people largely were enslaved, as has been the rule throughout most of human history. Many of the abductors and their victims had children who shared DNA with the ancestors of both parents... I really shouldn't have to say that part, but there it is. These children, unsurprisingly, sometimes chose to emulate the lifestyle of the conqueror rather than the conquered. It doesn't prove that the people we call Vikings were a diverse and inclusive group of globally minded people so much as it reinforces the well documented fact that they preyed on, plundered, and ravaged almost indiscriminately throughout the known world, the genetically mixed offspring of which then joined the ranks and continued the tradition. A number of abductees may even have joined their kidnappers in future raids, as was commonplace with Barbary pirates, Caribbean pirates, countless invading armies and navies throughout history, etc. If you want to show shocking evidence that we've been wrong about the genetic makeup of Scandinavians during the Viking age, the way to do that is by showing evidence of large scale diversity before that age and the abductions associated with it had begun. I do understand the need to portray this as overturning our understanding though. Book sales and research funding aren't nearly as high if the claim adds up to a statement of, "Nothing new discovered. We were right all along."

[@peterchristensen9585]

Very interesting! But what I find equally fascinating is that Vikings, like Pirates, have been glorified. As the video says at the very beginning, they sailed the seas plundering coastal towns.

[@wendylorimer5663]

A lot of the time they were trading.

[@Historian212]

Not just the coastal towns. Viking ships were designed for rivers, too. They traveled through Europe on the river systems, so reached inland as well as the coasts. That's how they ventured deep into what's now Russia -- in fact the Rus were originally Scandinavian -- and down to the Black Sea. The map they showed in the video was way oversimplified.

[@gloriahanes5338]

Compare them with modern day Rock Stars people found them fascinating and exciting.

[@nicnaimhin2978]

@@wendylorimer5663 Yeah , slave trading !

[@nicnaimhin2978]

@@gloriahanes5338 Repulsive slave traders who set up Dublin as a centre for their ‘ business’ activities- they were happily driven out of Ireland after the Battle of Clontarf C. 1060 , by the Irish hero, King Brian Boru . An early Irish poem C.700 AD describes people’s horror &fear of them: “ Bitter the wind tonight It tosses the waves’ white hair No fear then , of wild warriors From Loughlainn …. “ (translation ) Loughlainn being the old Irish word for Norway /Scandinavia .

[@geoffhunter7704]

The Vikings have left their legacy in Britain as place names eg Derby,Grimsby and Rugby as by means farm,Thorpe,Thwaite surnames as in Jarvis,Anderson and Earle originally Jarl for example the Viking settlers not been fully assimulated till the 12th century.

[@markhirstwood4190]

People in Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and Leicestershire are largely descended from Angles and later Danish Vikings. Some Norwegians in say, West Yorkshire, etc. They can't tell a first wave Angle apart from a later wave Danish Viking by DNA. There are near clones of Danes and Norwegians in these parts of England. They're still not what I'd call assimilated, more like dominant.

[@Annakist76]

"By" means town :)

[@christopherlynch9006]

My home town is Limerick in the mid West of Ireland which was founded by Norse raiders. The city still has many Norse descended surnames. Recent more detailed DNA testing has revealed a far stronger Norse signature in Irish DNA then previously thought.

[@geoffhunter7704]

@@christopherlynch9006 Yes Chris, the Norse have certainly stamped themselves on these islands, they were still a menace in Scotland till 1263 at the failure of Haakon;s invasion but matters improved after Alexander III daughter married Eric II of Norway and though he still controlled the Orkney,s and Shetlands the Norse Kings turned to fighting amongst themselves in the Baltic and Russia and the English Kings turned to land grabbing in France from Edward Ist till Henry VI and of course maintaining their hold on Eire till a hundred years ago.

[@OmmerSyssel]

@@Annakist76 or village... ;)

[@fernandoespinosa3403]

Could those genetically diverse “Vikings “ be enslaved people kidnapped from other regions?

[@tdrm]

They definitely could be. Shame this BBC report didn't want to bring the topic up, but Vikings were big slavers. They enslaved people during their raids, but also enslaved criminals from their own communities. They would then trade these slaves at markets.

[@eblita3698]

@@tdrm And so did the Romans and so did populations almost everywhere.....

[@sgjoni]

... and then they married their slaves... and had children with them... that became the next generation ;-)

[@nigelsheppard625]

@@tdrm yes indeed but the reasoning behind any BBC documentary on British or European history is that Britain and Europe have always been my multiracial and ethnically diverse. The easiest way to undermine a people is to deny them their history giving scientific facts about a small amount of individuals that apparently have a mixture of DNA or a residue in their teeth or bones of having originated elsewhere is sufficient proof to justify these claims. The claim therefore is that if 8th century Denmark was "diverse" then 21st century Denmark should be too because the Danes (or the British or Irish etc) have no actual claim to their homelands either. The BBC has a left wing internationalist bias and sets out to undermine any commonly held conservative beliefs.

[@carlosvaraujo]

Of course.. that's the elephant in the room..! It would actually be much more relevant, than make this into a multiculturalism lesson that nobody needed.. kidnapping children to make them "child soldiers" is unfortunately still a practice in some parts of the world today, and it would be much deserving of attention and a title in this video, but I guess it doesn't make for so many views.. :(

[@riccardopusceddu6232]

BBC keeps muddling the water by saying that Vikings were not homogeneous. Of course that's true where they ended up at, being southern Italy or Russia but those who didn't leave their native land were very homogeneous and surely had blond hair and blue eyes, two traits that can still be found nowadays in Scandinavia.

[@ReflectedMiles]

Their most astounding finding was that several of the Vikings had been fathered by Simon Watson.

[@AlteredState1123]

😂😂😂😂

[@user-jq6wf1xk5g]

I believe these are extremely unscientific biased conclusions.. As it is widely documented that Vikings and general Germanic tribes were known to raid and colonise large areas of Europe, and some areas of Africa, Asia and North America, this could and most likely just mean that the colonising vikings mated with local women and due to their supposed genetic and social advantage of warriors had loads of children in those colonies throughout the world and that might explain why those ancient Viking remains have portions of DNA similar to people across the globe. Also, bear in mind that ruling/warrior dynasties tend to have different genetics than the people they rule over. Think Lizzie II. Thus, I would be very wary of jumping into the conclusion of a rainbow crewed Viking ship sailing to Hollywood. Again, the image of a pale-skinned blue-eyed blonde Viking warrior might also be wrong.

[@timothyunterthiner2637]

The idea that a member of a conquering nation would avoid breeding with the peoples he conquered is not only historically inaccurate but absurd. Women and young girls are the centre jewel in dividing the spoils of war. You really think that after a soldier kills your brothers and father he’s going to respect your mother and sisters?

[@benanders4412]

They took female slaves with them while raiding, that is all. This has caused some genetic mixing.

[@ryufight7987]

@@timothyunterthiner2637 some people want to believe .That vikings where some kind of pure White superhuman warrior race .Who didn't assamilated with the people they came across. Reality is they mixed, with every culture that they could benifit from. Of course the first generations where scandanavians and in general vikings where scandanavians .But we all know not every nors was a viking .They onces who where raided places toke people captive .But also toke in new raiders from all over the world 🌎.

[@Wasserkaktus]

@@ryufight7987 Fun fact: Then very fair skin everyone associates with Europe and Europeans isn't even native to Europe: Europeans only became very fair skinned in the Neolithic. It is actually indigenous to the Middle East, most likely in the region in and around modern day Kurdistan. You want to know why Iraq's Kurds, Assyrians and other people from that area are as fair skinned as Europeans? They are in fact the true, original "White People" on Earth.

[@shaunschneeberger6301]

This i can fully agree on and honestly i think they trying to bullshit everyone. The next thing you will hear they were all gay. I’m big on science but definitely not bs.

[@danielsprouls9458]

One of interesting things is our modern usage of the word viking. The people of Scandinavia were known as Norse. When they went raiding they were going vikings or going on a viking. My usage is no doubt not completely accurate. But my understanding is they used viking as a verb. Modern usage is more of a noun. If you were tough enough to join a raiding group you could go on a viking no matter your ethnicity. You could stay in Scandinavia and be simply Norse. Of course there is a lot of crossover in names and terms.

[@Leanansidhe23]

Takk. exactly.

[@adriennedunne1748]

That's exactly right. I wish they would stop calling them Vikings.

[@spacelemur7955]

_Norse_ references the Atlantic side of the population. The Baltic Scandinavians were the _Rus,_ and the area just adjacent to Stockholm is still known as Roslagen. As the Rus went viking through East Europe, it's generally accepted that the name Russia is derived from them.

[@joeletaxi821]

The gerund (ing) did not appear in the English language until the time of Shakespeare. The spelling may be a corruption of an Old Norse word. As for diversity? Only the BBC could squeeze that into a discussion by finding two scientists willing to take the money to support the argument. I remember a BBC special where Andrew Marr tried convincing us we were all descended from a Nigerian woman and showed cavemen as mixed race with dreadlocks. The Vikings may have travelled far and wide but i doubt their community could be described as ‘diverse’ in the modern sense. The scientist stooge even says “We are changing the story”. I’m not.

[@jaytaylor9232]

Viking babies and viking chickens......

[@joelex7966]

Why is it that the Europeans are the only ones having their identity confused? You never hear about the Nubians claiming to be white.

[@GeckoHiker]

Did the "vikings" bring back genetic diversity or did they just leave their genes behind in diverse populations?

[@tessjuel]

A little bit of both. Scandinavia has always been populated by a mixture of different tribes but the vikings also interacted and mingled with other people they met.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Home where? They had settlements well beyond the then "known world".

[@GeckoHiker]

@@davidwuhrer6704 I never mentioned "home". The subject was genetic diversity from going a'viking. Unless they brought conquered women back to where they originated, wherever that was, I was speculating on whether they left their DNA on raids or brought foreign DNA back--hence the diversity. There isn't enough in the historical record that I know of to answer my question.

[@fluffy_mcflooferson4635]

They also took slaves from many places and brought them back to Scandinavia.

[@thekentuckyan8088]

They left their jeans they’re didn’t want to bring them back to their family and have their daughters cross with them

[@robertmurdock9750]

Anyone should know that Scandinavians were more blue eyed and blonde back then than they are today. Entropy increases with time.

[@cindyj5522]

Actually, they were migrants from more southerly climes who had dark hair/skin and blue eyes as their phenotype, which changed in response to the decrease in sunlight and daytime hours as they moved farther and farther north. "Back then" has nothing to do with it.

[@solitairecatnaps4444]

In addition consider that the blonde and blue eyed characteristics are recessive traits.

[@NinaForever1]

I think scientists know better than you.

[@tali5959]

​ That evolutionary garbage is a theory.

[@tali5959]

​​@@solitairecatnaps4444blue eyes are dominant!!!!

[@ohkeydokeythen]

Was anyone else waiting for them to tell us what all 400 or so skeletal remains were from?

[@MichaelT_123]

Do you want to make your own conclusion? No way...!

[@markhirstwood4190]

Yes, they should provide a link to the list of all the paternal haplogroups (Y DNA) of all the skeletons. U106/R-L48 and I1 are the main groups, but some would be R1a as well.

[@Hun_Uinaq]

I dabble in linguistics. I find it hugely interesting that when Danes speak English, the cadence and rhythm of their speech reminds me very strongly of Yorkshire, Northumbrian and even Liverpool English. There’s something about it. Once you notice it, you can’t unhear it. It’s fascinated when you stop and think that there were a lot of danish people that settled there in the late first millennium. Clearly, their language left its mark on the English spoken there.

[@herrbonk3635]

To us swedes, that heavy cumbersome throat pronunciation is also associated with southern Germans (or at least our caricatures of them).

[@Hun_Uinaq]

@@herrbonk3635 i’ve heard some pretty throaty pronunciation from some of you sweets too though. Now, certainly it’s nowhere near as guttural as in Danes or Germans but, there’s a KZbin channel that teaches Swedish and the pronunciation use there has the r in the throat just like the Germans and the Danes. Here is an interesting tidbit for you. Up until very recently, it was common in speakers of Northumbrian English for them to have something called the “Cumberland burr.” What this means is that there r was also in the throat exactly like the Danes and the Germans. And this is in native speakers of English! It’s very hard to find speakers that still have this tendency these days. But, it was a very characteristic part of their pronunciation. Regards.

[@herrbonk3635]

@@Hun_Uinaq Do you mean "The Swedish lad"? He's a bit guttural yes :), coming from Skåne (that was taken from Denmark as late as in the mid 1600s). I largely agree with you, but I belive it's good to know that just 100-150 years ago, other "peculiar" aspects of Danish were milder than today. The swallowing of syllables (a bit cockney-ish to my ears) and the uniquely danish stöt (very hard glottal stop) instead of tonal melody or prosody-cadence were not always as extreme (especially in Köpenhamn). In the early 1900s, Swedes and Norwegians had an easier time hearing what they said :) Another aspect can be that despite accents like Skånska, Swedish pronunciation is still generally more standardised than English (or Norwegian for that matter). Sure, our spoken "RP", Rikssvenska, does not formally exist anymore either. But it lingers on, despite national standardisation not being in fashion anymore(since the 1970s). Either because our spellings are more closely adapted to modern pronuncuations, compared to English, or perhaps because Swedes are more conformist? :) However, even people that say they hate Stockholm, Mälardalen, or Svealand are still able to talk like that if they have to.

[@larsbjrnson3101]

Liverpool is connected to Norway too. "Scouser" is from a norwegian dish "Lapskaus" introduced to Liverpool by norwegian sailors in the 1700s.

[@maryavatar]

I’m from Orkney, and even though Orkney passed out of Norwegian possession into Scottish hands over 500 years ago, Orcadians still think of themselves culturally as more of a Norse-derived society. Biologically and geographically closer to Scotland, but even now, many Orcadians don’t refer to themselves as Scottish or British.

[@markhirstwood4190]

There's no confusion about who the Vikings were. Nobody's claiming they were a monorace so I wonder where BBC gets that idea from. Northwestern Europeans are the 1st or 2nd most diverse in the world (the other is Ashkenazi Jews. Sorry I lost the source on that, so I don't know which is 1st place or 2nd place but it doesn't matter much). Proto-Germanic U106/R-L48 groups from around Friesland go up the coast around 1,700 BCE and take over, likely by invitation. From these people we get the language, Odin, boats, farming and much more. Proto-Germanic U106 groups are 5,100 years old and of that, R-L48 is about 4,700 years old. The dominant culture of Scandinavia is R-L48. R-L48 and I1 (native Scandinavians) and subsets of R1a Baltic-Slavic formed the peoples of Denmark, Sweden and Norway. From 1,700 BCE to about 500 BCE, things progressed. In the coastal areas, U106/R-L48 and I1 blended to some degree, becoming something new: Coastal North Sea Germanic Scandinavians. They built boats and ships, much, much earlier than the Viking Age. Jutes from Denmark, under Hengist, founded England in 449 CE. They even got up to Orkney at that time, all in rowed keel ships. They can't tell a first wave Angle (or Jute) apart from later wave Danish Vikings by DNA. Just becase some Vikings joined in for work, from say, Belarus, or others in Orkney were part Pictish (and part Norwegian) does not discount all we know about Viking whatsoever, it only expands and confirms what we already know, if we think accurately. To try to claim that a Celt in Britain could become 'Viking' by choosing a lifestyle... is rare and a stretch at best. While not all U106/R-L48 or I1 are Viking, it is definitely true that most Vikings were R-L48 and I1, that is overwhelmingly clear and not up for debate. Blond(e) and blues are a Baltic trait, but those traits were common long before the Viking Age and are noted as trait amongst the Vikings wherever they went: Height, strength, blonde and blues, though many had brown hair, near black hair, olive skin, sometimes green eyes, etc, blond and blues and height are, and were, 'a thing'. No debate.

[@nicnaimhin2978]

@@ghostladydarkling3250 Opinionated nonsense ,made up to fit your very much present- day concerns /agenda, and bearing no relation whatever to the lives/lifestyles of these ancient Northern Europeans , who would undoubtedly, due to their geographical location , have been a light-eyed, fair complexioned people.

[@OmmerSyssel]

@@ghostladydarkling3250 nonsense, if any one could head out as Viking why is this phenomenon only connected with Scandinavia? Vikings were Scandinavian men!

[@nicnaimhin2978]

Absolutely agree as to the looks/appearance of these as you say , ancient Northern Europeans, however ,find their fawning glorification by the likes of the BBC - and others, a bit hard to take. Reasons?Their virtually calamitous impact on the thriving, literate, monastic civilisation developed in Ireland ,with outposts in Germany founded by St Killian ; at Bobbio in Italy ,Gallen in Switzerland , even reaching as far to the east as Kiev ,bringing literacy across Europe , is a matter of record in these places, (literacy literally!)a light in the so called Dark Ages barely mentioned/acknowledged.Likewise, the fact that the city of Dublin was founded as a centre for the “Vikings “ slave trade has not been disputed .That the Irish in the Battle of Clontarf ,1014, drove the “Vikings “ out of Ireland and the other historical facts ,are disputed by you as”… nonsense…. “ only serves to show how far the present-day cult of the glorification of the Vikings ,& their concomitant heathenism has come, becoming an unhealthy rejection of our common European , Christian heritage.Why is the “evil BBC “ cheering this on?! And you talk to me about “ having an agenda ?!

[@mitanni0]

It would be interesting to know which social status the "sequenced" people had. If nobles, commoners, "imported" slaves etc. were all put into one basket, diversity can be expected to be high.

[@nordahlgrieg2738]

Also vikings took concubines from the conquered people, so you would expect a preponderance of male viking dna matched with a much more varied female dna

[@Alexandra-zp3gr]

@@nordahlgrieg2738 Precisely the case in Iceland. The paternal line can be traced to Norway and much of the maternal line has links to the British Isles and Northern France.

[@sharoncombs58]

Absolutely right! Studies such as these are misleading because they fail to report N.

[@mitanni0]

​@@nickp9115 Thanks 4 the clarification! Is the written report available online? I'm not familiar with Viking culture - my working hypothesis so far has been that nobles were buried WITH slaves to serve them in the afterlife. I might be totally wrong here, so would like to read into the report.

[@maryanneslater9675]

You're forgetting that vikings weren't just raiders and traders. They settled in many places -- the Ukraine, Istanbul, Spain, Italy, France, Ireland. Like the Romans before them, they married locally for land and alliances. People of status were even more likely to marry diversely. Richard I of England was a descendant of Vikings who settled Normandy and HE proposed that his sister Joan marry Saladin's brother.

[@NoctLightCloud]

it's like trying to explain what Slavic people look like. Europe has always been very diverse (maybe just not with random subsaharan-people)

[@rbvp45]

Me, a Norwegian: Why does that guy sound like he is being strangled? Yikes! Oh, hold on, he's just Danish....

[@AlteredState1123]

😂😂😂😂

[@lanaconin5704]

Is that what it is?! Surely they don’t all sound that bad and deep throat certain words?! 😬😬😬

[@rbvp45]

@@lanaconin5704 they dont all sound that bad, you’re right

[@ravenbonanza1522]

I've read, that now current Danish, Swedes, Icelanders, Norwegians & Finish could barely understand one another when they talk. What happened? I thought you all used to be Scandinavians as a whole.

[@rbvp45]

@@ravenbonanza1522 Finnish is an entirely different language. It is much more similar to Estonia etc. As a Norwegian I have no problem understanding Swedish, and written Danish is really close to Norwegian. It's just the pronounciation that's so difficult to understand. Icelandic is a really ancient language with much more complex grammar

[@ChristysChannelYall]

My mom’s side of the family is Norwegian which I very much favor, but my dad appears very Native American. He has always been told that he was about 1/2 Native American. He wanted to have a DNA test done and low and behold his black haired, tan skinned self is 25% Scandinavian and the rest a combo of Irish, English, German, and 1.1% Western Asian. We all had a great laugh. Genetics is crazy!

[@peetsnort]

My father is dark haired yet from Sweden

[@ladythalia227]

I’m Norwegian too. I can trace my paternal family back to the 1200s on my paternal side. My maternal line is Norwegian except for a Swedish great great grandmother with ties to Finland according to my mother’s dna results. I did a dna test which confirmed that my DNA is 100% Scandinavian. I have very dark brown hair, black eyebrows and blue eyes. My father has black hair and blue eyes. He Is also 100% Scandinavian as we already knew based on genealogy. Many native Norwegians especially on the west coast have a very striking mix of pale skin, blue eyes and black hair. It’s not that uncommon.

[@tenbroeck1958]

I have heard the "half Indian yet DNA shows little to no Native Blood" story a lot. I have heard many obviously white people tell me about how their peoples were driven from their lands by the "white man". I'm like, I got news for you bud, no people on this planet are free from the sin of mistreating others: The English were cruel to the Scottish, who then came to America, for a new start, then promptly became the largest group of slaveholders in America. I can cite similar examples of all people, including the Native Americans. Africa still has slavery today, etc. We just need to all be kind to one another and stop looking for a loophole in our ancestry, which would make us innocent. I only mention this because I was always told I was a "Jew" due to my appearance. DNA and a lot of research has shown me to be German, Dutch, and 3 percent Asian (probably from Huns in Germany long ago). Looks can be so deceiving

[@jacquesrenou2850]

There is Native American DNA in alot of Vikking people,a small part,but it's there.This might explain the 1% Asian ancestry,if you believe that the first nations people/native Americans crossed the Bering land bridge thousands of years ago.

[@jacquesrenou2850]

Sempi people of Norway? Your dad sounds like these people.They have native American features.Interesting read up if you look up these beautiful people,it's customs,clothing,housing,features, artwork.🙂

[@patriciafisher1170]

After doing a DNA test. I am 6th generation Australian. It came back I had genes mainly from Ireland. No surprise as my grandmother was born there. But also some from Norway.

[@a.morrigan5870]

@Mr. Cool yep, English convicts were transported to most states of Australia, because they could no longer be sent to America after your independence. So yep, English convicts got around.

[@resourcedragon]

@Mr. Cool: A lot of those "English" criminals were in fact more like what we would think of as political prisoners. There were a lot of Scots, Irish and Welsh who didn't like the heavy hand of English rule. There were also people whom we would describe as trade unionists, who were trying to get better conditions for workers in the depths of the Industrial Revolution. There were also a lot of people whose main crime was being poor (very reminiscent of the situation in the present day US). And, if I'm going to be honest, there were a few people who would still count as criminal (fraudsters & the like) in the 21st century.

[@maryanneslater9675]

Half the coastal cities in Ireland, especially Dublin, were viking settlements a thousand or so years ago.

[@timmarshall7292]

Startling new information about the Human Race: kzbin.info/www/bejne/roGVamp6hN5ghsU

[@TheLiana1102]

I just got mine back and I am primarily Scottish, when originally thought I was Irish, but that doesn't come in till 3rd. Second I am England and northwestern Europe. Also 4th Germanic Europe, 5th Wales, 6th Sweden & Denmark, 7th Norway and than finally 8th Spain. Lol! The only surprising thing is the Spain one and it was a little interesting I was more Scottish than Irish being my mom's genetics said she was like almost half Irish.

[@Lemonz1989]

I’m an ancestor of the Vikings during the Landnám period, with traceable ancestry back to the 11th century. There was almost no additional added DNA, according to the records, except some Danes in the 17th century. My DNA is basically what you would expect. 100% European with 99.8% northwestern European which comprises of 79.4% Scandinavian and 20.4% British, and then 0.2% Ashkenazi Jewish. My maternal lineage is Scandinavian and paternal lineage is British, which is the opposite of what is expected of my heritage. :) I have straight dark brown hair and almost black eyes, and almost no one in my family is blonde, but the majority have light colored eyes.

[@2puffs770]

Big hand to those musicians playing ancient instruments in traditional garb. This takes so much love, discipline, and commitment. Rare traits by today's standards.

[@EmilReiko]

Its a danish group, Virelai, they do Medieval music at medieval and viking historical events.

[@Србомбоница86]

Lmfao ,we have that in Serbia all the time

[@OmmerSyssel]

Why is that more demanding or admirable than learning to play a violin? Some people prefer romanticing ordinary matters

[@nurismail_]

@@EmilReiko E2

[@shepberryhill4912]

It's easy to fudge accuracy when reimagining what is old. The hurdy-gurdy is a late medieval invention, unknown to Vikings.

[@cjames21]

Let me guess it’s 2021 so let’s make them black! ✊🏿

[@tyjuanfutlon9931]

The truth is the truth. Lol you made ??! Lol.

[@gudgengrebe]

😂

[@futuristica1710]

Cry harder.

[@idontcare8405]

1. When graves survive usually they’re given elaborate burials. Common graves tend not to last so you’re selecting for elites who are more likely to mix through arranged marriages for alliances. Thus this study greatly overestimates the admixture of the Vikings. 2. All the admixture is European. So because the Vikings took back some English girls that means race isn’t real white people don’t exist and somali’s need to be in Sweden. 3. The fact that they don’t link the study and that it’s behind a paywall shows the dishonesty of this. Make a claim, but don’t show you the evidence.

[@HueghMungus]

Agreed, I was waiting for the DNA tests, but they showed NONE! Maybe they aren't 100% Scandinavians, but most likely 100% Europeans. Then maybe they spread their genes outwards, like Viking Halfdan who worked in Turkey.

[@damimlookinggood]

race is a psyop, culture is what matters its what they really want to uproot you from. Its been happening forever. personally i believe thats why the viking were so fierce, they could never make concession with christians because christianity basically seeks to destroy native culture and assimilate

[@Plopdoc]

As a person of southern European descent it’s interesting to find out that I’m distantly related to an individual found at this site

[@albinullanger7862]

Ok. If there are any youngsters out there watching, unfamiliar with these kind of BBC claims: They could suggest that some of the active vikings were actually crossdressing, pashto-speaking Namibians, and none of us can be entierly sure about it. The surprising truth about the vikings... We simply know very little about it, and therefore i call agenda-driven PC bull on this. You knew more about vikings before you watched this. Thanks

[@zebbedi]

Why are you so upset about it? It's just reality, face it.

[@SysterYster]

@@zebbedi Exactly. But some people think vikings are cool, and if they also are racists, they can't face the reality that the vikings themselves didn't care about race as long as they got to do their thing. Because some people think they are less cool if the things they like weren't as "pure" as they thought. Sadly.

[@danielharvison7510]

@@SysterYster Yeah, it is quite sad, and exactly the thinking we need to uproot and throw out. If we all had a long look at our ancestral bloodlines, I'm sure we'd find a few points where a lot of paths crossed. It doesn't even bloody matter, we're all human in the end, that's the main thing. Even so, I wouldn't mind some Klingon or Vulkan ancestry. Oh well.

[@SysterYster]

@@danielharvison7510 Agreed. I mean, I get equally surprised every time I hear some Americans go "I'm half this, and quarter that, and 16% this" like... who the heck cares? Why do you care? I don't get it. (It's not really a thing here. Not to that degree at least) All I personally care about is "are they nice people?". lol. We're all mixed-breed anyway. :P I wouldn't mind some elven ancestry though, I guess. lol.

[@danielharvison7510]

@@SysterYster Well, I choose to believe that some of my ancestors grew up on the dark side of a world orbiting a dim Red Dwarf star. That makes me...something something. It's about as valid as what some people want to believe.

[@markothwriter]

There should also be a factor that the most risk-taking, the most adventurous left Scandinavia. Those left behind were the quiet types who wanted to farm.

[@Quantum-1157]

The Viking’s were more like a band of mercenaries and so one would expect that all kinds of people from various geographies were attracted to the mercenary life-style esp in those days and vikings were excellent sailors so I would have been surprised if there was no genetic diversity revealed in this study

[@SuperErikRoss]

Apparently the word Viking means to go on a Raid They were Raiders and known for rape pillage and plunder so likely took a fair share of hostages as well from other places and bred with them So it makes sense that eventually this would make for a more diverse gene pool perhaps they recognized that this would be beneficial to the whole

[@Quantum-1157]

@@SuperErikRoss good point

[@markhirstwood4190]

Actually no, they're mostly what they call the 'Fighting Farmers.' Proto-Germanic U106/R-L48 and native Scandinavian I1. Most were seeking land, to root down and farm, and also others were keen on trade to various areas. Others raided of course, at times, for deals gone bad, rivalries, whatever, but most were farmers. Northwestern Europeans are one of the top groups in the world for genetic diversity, but R-L48 and I1 haplogroups are what the Vikings mainly were. Some R1a people from say, Belarus may have joined in bands at times, but mainly L48 & I1 are it.

[@SuperErikRoss]

@@markhirstwood4190 Yea your very well informed bro apparently they werent as barbaric as once thought but they did have a thing called Homlung where the Warrior could challenge the Farmer to a duel where winner takes all i suppose that was a way of evening things up culling the herd so to speak

[@SuperErikRoss]

@@wildschwein9066 Sorry bro i did not intend to make light of the history of your people or to condone the actions of those who did engage in such horrendous acts of violence or to justify what happened in the past. It is entirely my intent to gain a better understanding through discussion of the events in question. I apolgize if I offended you in any way. I took German in High School just for that purpose and have visited there as well. Its a beautiful country and so are the people.Meine mutter ist Svenske und sprechen zie Duesche. Ja har tolla Svenske ja vist. I hope you accept my sincere and humble apology

[@markfitzgibbon8367]

100% thought the BBC was going to say they were black!

[@alexandrevieira2410]

lol

[@benitokiri]

So THAT’S what BBC means… 🤔

[@christineHolloway-t2g]

Softening you up for that.

[@beigenegress2979]

@@benitokiriGo 👉🏼 to jail! 👮 Go 👉🏼 directly to jail! 👮 And do not pass GO!

[@benitokiri]

@@beigenegress2979 is this your first time on the internet?

[@captainchaos6991]

Interesting stuff. As an Englishman with a paternal heritage from one of the most famous Scottish clans, it came as no surprise that my "English' and 'Celtic' DNA came back fairly equal - roughly 35% each. The surprise was the 20% Scandinavian (with a little bit of Finnish) and the 10% Eastern European!

[@michaelbarnett2527]

Mine was somewhat like yours. 20% scandinavian, a little finish. 66% celtic. My mom’s side were known to be mostly scottish, from another powerful clan as well. I thought my dad to be Irish/ English, and some Scottish . The mystery was zero english , although I have an English ( anglo saxon) surname .Then there was the 13% in southern europe and southwest asia combined. Go figure…

[@opano4116]

my favorite story for the era when that happened, was a king i think, complaining that english women were preferring vikingr men, because they were nice jewelry, combed their hair, shaved, bathed regularly, and dressed in the latest fashions, vikingr were dandies and ladiesman but we think of them as barbarian wolf/bear men

[@silverstar4289]

1% Finnish, but majority English and Scottish . My surname is based on a corruption of a Scandinavian word.

[@martymcfartface996]

You shouldn't be surprised. Have you never heard the term "northern european peoples" or "germanic peoples". The UK was regularly subjected to raiding partys from european peoples.

[@JM-nm3bg]

Lol at 10-13% “Eastern European” and “Southern European/West Asian” - > 🐎🏹👹🤐

[@resourcedragon]

The message I'm getting from this is that anybody can cosplay being Viking if they want. What counts is the attitude, not the genetics.

[@hobi1kenobi112]

Yeah, you're not going to get cancelled and the Twitter blood eagle done to you if you dare put a Viking helmet on. ;)

[@Roan-xj1mg]

Yes, because European culture is the only that can be claimed by everybody for some reason

[@zf5249]

I thought the first guy was making laugh of the accent, but it was really his accent

[@KenMattsson]

He’s got one of the strongest Danish accents I’ve ever heard

[@markhirstwood4190]

@@KenMattsson It's more his voice than his accent. Not all Danes sound like him and their voices vary a lot. I love how Danish sounds, Norwegian too. Some speakers, like in English or any language can sound unusual.

[@JacquiShaw-n6n]

Very interesting. Thank you.

[@drrepair]

I can't see how "scientific interpretations" can be used in defining identity. The modern Scandinavian debate on identity has nothing to do with the Vikings. I'm an Icelander and we are obcessed with story telling of vikings and elfs and kings and currupt clans. But that does not define our identity. The language and religion and local politics has defined our identy. These three main assets are under a constant threat and that makes some grabbing these straws of past alleged ancetral history that may or may not be real. That gives us fake partial identity. I find the same happen to those that come to the west from other parts of the world that they grab from their own past some thing that can boost their not so preferential status. Same with failed academics that take pride in a narrow world view and want to inflate it onto the rest of the population. Multiculturalism is that kind of narrow world view that has no base in reality but is a pure mental construct. Very unpractical but rhetorically sounds nice.

[@markhirstwood4190]

In Canada it's about Scots, Irish, Welsh, French, etc trying to overwhelm those of English heritage to exterminate that identity. Proxy wars against Anglos in a colony, basically. Like the Fenians tried to call Canada 'New Irelland.' It's war, plain and simple. In England, Celts (Irish, Scots, Welsh again) try to make the English believe there is no such thing as English people, yet the English are a distinct ethnic group, from Anglia, Denmark, nearly 1,600 years ago. They can't tell a first wave Angle apart from a later wave Danish Viking by DNA. So this idea that they'are all native British is a lie when many are, but many are not as they came from the coastal North Sea groups.

[@nicnaimhin2978]

@@markhirstwood4190 You have some brass neck to actually try to assert that we Irish tried to “ overwhelm …the English …to exterminate that identity …” , when it is an actual inversion of the truth! You might discover this when you get round to picking up a history book & finding out about England’s shameful incursions into Ireland & the dreadful consequences we are still living with in Ulster!

[@OmmerSyssel]

Well spoken 👍🏻

[@anthonyburke5656]

Why would you be surprised, they were a slave keeping culture, they invented the word “slave” every slave culture breeds with their slaves, even the Spartans.

[@johnnyjohansson16]

In Scandinavia it is called träl. Not slave.

[@PeterMasalski93]

Fun Fact; All the Viking skeletons found buried in the battle field, were discovered smiling.

[@VikingNorway-pb5tm829]

Yes! :) Ja!

[@Jennifer-jn2qw]

DNA is wild. My sister and I are both approximately 50% Britain, Wales. But she's about a quarter swedish and Danish. I'm a quarter Norwegian.

[@josealbert4596]

In the times of the Byzantine Empire, it was common for Scandinavians to go to the Black Sea area to work as mercenary soldiers for the Byzantines. At the same time, there was possibly an arrival of "Scythians" from the steppe of what is now the northern Black Sea coast to Scandinavia, carrying burial mound culture and even the Indo-European language (the true Scandinavians possibly spoke something similar to present-day Finnish)

[@viktormogilin307]

Please research your history of time periods, when was the Byzantine Empire ? or if there was one ? Where are the Scythians? & where are they now? Дура мура у рэкï 🌅😜😂🍻

[@permadsen1479]

I don't know where you've got that information from, pretty much everyone agrees that Icelandic is the closest language to Old Norse.

[@josealbert4596]

@@permadsen1479 It is simply a hypothesis (I read it a long time ago, I don't remember where)

[@mihaiilie8808]

​@@permadsen1479Genetics test have shown blue eyes appeared first in the western Black Sea 12000 years ago. Scithians ukrainean, bulgarians and romanian dacians. The goths from Gotland are dacian getae ( visigoths) and they migrated there 900 years before the wikings to spread arianic Christianity. Goth language is 700years older than old Norse. That's why Sweden, Denmark and Finland were named Dacia in official documents and also Iordanes, the goth historian says so.

[@ManteIIo]

Yes, true. Scandinavian men served as elite royal guards to Byzantine imperators for several centuries, but your described Scythian arrival from Pontic steppe happened several thousand years apart.

[@constatinexipalaeologus507]

This makes sense knowing the range the Vikings covered. Even as an American my DNA is from all over Europe & west Asia, mostly western Europe and the Balkans Greece.

[@danrooc]

Don't trust too much in commercial DNA tests (if that was the case). They vary from lab to lab and some have shown outstandingly different results even when practiced to identical twins. ;-)

[@bidyo1365]

@@danrooc :o any evidence?

[@danrooc]

@@bidyo1365 Quite a few. e.g. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6TEZpZnpZuUeZI

[@free22]

@@danrooc This is why I used more than 1 service. They all gave me the same result so there must be something to this.

[@danrooc]

@@free22 Something wise to do if certanity is required. Of course, if both labs use the same methods and data base, that's something to be expected. Greetings!

[@TheCrain]

A lot of sea burials and cremations happen in Viking culture. I'd like to know where they got their samples from because it seems they have a chip on their shoulder.

[@JM-hf9bl]

Did anyone notice that researcher using air quotes to refer to the "indigenous" Scottish population? Would he use them for any other non-European indigenous population?

[@bennyklabarpan7002]

The indigenous population (pre celtic pre germanic) also came from Scandinavia. It's a lot of nonsense and lack of numbers here. Saying there was asian DNA in scandinavia is obvious when indo-europeans are asian in origin.

[@radianttadpole6363]

This would help explain why I, of Swedish descent, ended up with the rare AB+ blood trap. This blood type requires DNA input from both Europe and Asia.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

I did not know this! I'm also of the AB+ blood type variant, so I'm guessing that my own ancestry would contain both genetic input from Europe and Asia? Makes me think that what I learned in world history is correct: That 80% of the current world's population is related to Mongol Genghis Khan, who fathered more than 800 children.

[@jacquesrenou2850]

Could be from Native American people that does show up in Nordic DNA,a percentage that is there.

[@lifeschool]

The 'Vikings' were also Finnish, as a group lead by Rollo invaded and took over Normandy. South Normandy had leaders like Harold "the Dane" of Avenel - from Denmark. So the Norman conquest wasnt the French but another invasion by the Danes and the Scanda-Navy-ans. Even though we already had Danelaw.

[@lifeschool]

@jonnyneace8928- Frenchisized Vikings then. :) The Y chromosomes of males carries over unbroken through the generations, and they only had maybe 4 generations in France. Before that they were sea kings. I traced the line back from Rollo to Fornjot "the Ancient Giant" "Fornjótr" King of Kvenland (Finland) Born:174 AD.

[@reneklein3658]

So if in historical texts e.g. arab travellers speak of “blonde giants, with blue eyes and white skin “ -are they actually meaning dark skinned, dark haired midgets with brown eyes 👀🤦🏻‍♂️ How convenient in a woke time as this one such conclusions must come 🤔

[@SIC647]

I am an ethnic Dane. I have brown hair and unusual facial features for one. I have been asked several times where I come from. My family on both sides were common farmers in Denmark as far back as any records go and up until my parents. And they stayed in and married people in the immediate area. According to family history on my mother's side, they have been there since before the marshy land rose, which is 600-800 years ago. And yet there is this line of people in my mother's family, with brown hair and these facial features. We look very much like each other. 2-3 people in each generation. I am curious about where it comes from, but I am not convinced that DNA testing would reveal anything. Because sometimes you are just a brown-haired ethnic Dane - not all ethnic Danes are blond with blue eyes. (I did suggest to my mom that the look might come from the Polish seasonal workers in the 1800s. She vehemently denied that it could be the case. Because that would have meant that, ahem, someone believed to be the father, wasn't 🤭).

[@mutteringmale]

What people forget, or don't want to know, is that almost every person in the north is a descendant, in one way or another, of the Celts or "Keloid" as the Greeks called them. From Northern Chinese, to mongols, all the way to Ireland. Back 4, 000 years ago, they were known by their red hair, fair skin and blue or green eyes. (They also invented the wheel, horse taming, spinning and weaving, elaborate jewelry and more) Seeing as most Irish are either Nordic or Celtic DNA background, it's not a mystery why so many are red haired, blue eyed and fair skinned. That is why the English made fun of them...out of pure jealousy at their won mongrel DNA.

[@Sara-hp2qp]

Buy a test and see what it says. It's fascinating. 😊

[@dirkaloha]

Milk delivery man maybe?

[@NetoperekMordulec]

Original population of Scandinavia carried genetic haplogroup R1a and had a very large component of the Black Sea steppe nomad people, perhaps you are still carry that genetic make up. In the western part of Norway the R1a is still dominant.

[@maribellemontero6119]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@reddwarf3046]

In this 400 person sample, I wonder if any were actually slaves etc and not Vikings

[@eliza9011]

Sleeves would not have been buried that way as neither did Norwegians at the time Viking was more of a profession like think of a Spartan warrior would get buried with a shield a viking would get buried a certain way with certain items

[@Abruzzo333]

Also, many Vikings were cremated. I take this supposed "research" with a big grain of salt. Too convenient that it all falls perfectly in line with the modern day liberal globalist agenda aimed at stripping Europeans of their cultural and historical identity

[@bobcornwell403]

I'm shocked but not surprised. The Vikings were motorcycle gangs with boats. Mostly Nordic pirates. Gang life is harsh, and it takes a fierce personality, as well as a powerful physique. I doubt that every Norse born male could fit that bill. Like all gangs, they were probably not above taking suitable recruits from wherever they could find them.

[@marciasloan534]

TRUE

[@opano4116]

and hotties are hotties im sure theres viking dna spread far and wide beyond their homelands as well

[@jenniferlevine5406]

Fascinating! I hope we can get more DNA information and details over the next few decades.

[@KennyG-qh8jc]

fake news

[@carlw.8671]

Great clip and info...I'm half Swedish Viking 🇸🇪 and half German🇩🇪...

[@julio5prado]

How on earth could you select a film of a 18 century ship to start this information? What kind of ignorants have prepared this information?

[@davidwuhrer6704]

There were some anachronisms. However, when people believe that the 18th century was medieval, and that the Viking age was thousands of years ago, a Viking wearing a bronze helmet and a digital watch is highly historically accurate by comparison.

[@julio5prado]

@@davidwuhrer6704 ha ha ha ha !!!!

[@catherinemushaw1956]

My great-grandfather and great-grandmother were from Norway 🇳🇴 and Sweden 🇸🇪. So interesting this video is ... thank you for sharing ❤️

[@philhudson3619]

This is silly. Every culture had mixes of different populations. But the overwhelming majority if people would be part of the same genetic group. Also the "Viking identity" is also misleading. Viking was a profession. This is just propaganda

[@MikeMikeSlavinitz-cp8rc]

Very revealing. Glad I took the time to hear of your discoveries. I’m not part of the Viking culture as far as family history tells. Just ordered an ancestral DNA analysis. Looking forward to what is not know.