If they are extremely common artifacts, there are probably enough of them around to use some for useful primitive demonstrations. Using the original Otzi copper axe on the other hand would be a disgrace haha...
@ymishaus22667 жыл бұрын
Not that big a deal when you remember 99% of rocks are several thousands of years old.
@TheCuriousNoob8 жыл бұрын
Always find it magical thinking how people figured out a process to extract workable metal from ore. Back then... the Stone Age lasted for tens of thousands of years or more and then some geniuses figured out how to make copper tools. 5-6000 years later we're planning on sending people to colonize other worlds. It makes me wonder what kinds of things humans will be doing in even another 1,000 years. It'd be interesting to go back to the year 1016 and try and explain that even common people will be able to fly (yeah right) around the globe in less than a day (impossible!) amongst other things incomprehensible to them like computers and the internet.
@mr.shepherd_17767 жыл бұрын
The Curious Noob yep it takes innovation and overcoming the hurdles of disbelief.
@bilbo_gamers64176 жыл бұрын
Imagine going back 15 years and explaining that you could stream live video from your phone, and that privatized space travel and autonomous driving is already a reality
@Zamolxes774 жыл бұрын
It would be much more interesting to explain to them how they'll be able to live like kings until 80-90 years old, with plenty of food and not get sick and if they do get sick, how they can be healed by swallowing a pill.
@drumqid4 жыл бұрын
2.5 million years of stone technology! The use of stone tools in itself is an amazing trait and a huge driving factor in our evolution.
@jhtsurvival2 жыл бұрын
I also think the discovery of metallurgy and ore extraction and smelting is amazing.. like how did they discover it? Did they come across a massive fire that had melted something? Or were they experimenting with ore for some other reason? They didn't just say " hey let's make metal" when they had never had it before. They must have come Across something to get the idea
@rustyshackleford65334 жыл бұрын
Ancient caveman: this butt wiping stone is effective everyone should use one Modern man: this axe is likely several thousand years old
@spongebobsquarepants84033 жыл бұрын
You guys use rocks?
@plagueinater3 жыл бұрын
@@spongebobsquarepants8403 you use seaweed don't you
@RoguePreparedness8 жыл бұрын
You know, I too thought that copper axe would be too fragile. But it really took that tree out! Awesome video!
@adannn7 жыл бұрын
1:39 thats how the flash does cutting down trees
@-ahvilable-66546 жыл бұрын
I suspect he increased the speed of the video!
@Skonnchy6 жыл бұрын
-Ah vilable- r/whoosh
@TheWoodedBeardsman8 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff!
@felixelsayed99326 жыл бұрын
The Wooded Beardsman nobody reconiced you, but I did :-)
@thatoneguy33906 жыл бұрын
I'm 2 years late but...hi!
@iron19754 жыл бұрын
And you are..?
@gotrocksinhead8 жыл бұрын
What a great video! The advantage of even copper over stone is amazing. Good to see you put the stone to use :) I love the rabid woodpecker shots...
@arcadioflores89826 жыл бұрын
you snould make more videos dan
@beardeddragonlife32416 жыл бұрын
gotrocksinhead s
@Katalowins8 жыл бұрын
incredible how much value a simple alloy could provide. imagine transitioning from stone plows with difficult shaping procedures to a casted copper spade.
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman6 ай бұрын
stone plows lol
@RaeSyngKane8 жыл бұрын
Hey Shawn, really liked the video. With the stone axe there are several things that are important to keep in mind. First off, yours is a very nice example and you definitely want to keep it in good condition. Ancient peoples, while careful, would definitely put a little more oomph behind it. Second, many of the trees in Europe are softer woods than the trees of North America. Even steel axes had to change shape to survive the beatings they took in the new world. Lastly, in using a stone axe the goal was not as much to cut the tree down as it was to chisel enough away to lever it free or for the weight of the tree to break it. The theories I've read as to why copper was the first working tool metal made sense. It melts at a low enough temperature that early man would be able to notice that stones around their campfire were melting. Malachite (copper ore) forms bright green copper oxide when exposed to air making it easily identifiable. It also contains very high concentrations of copper making it easy for the early less efficient processes.
@johnaffleck65728 жыл бұрын
Kind of an amazing U-Tube channel. I bought the Archery books a few years ago; and made a few long-bows out of IPE; that fell into my hands; using modern files, and steel scrapers and such. But people like you who actually make arrow heads, and arrows, and bows the way you do still seem like magicians to me. I certainly appreciate how impressive your results are.
@scooper49813 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. My father and I collected ancient American relics by searching cultivated fields in Missouri back in the 1960s and 70s. We found several grooved axes (both fully grooved and 3/4 grooved, plus celts, which are ungrooved stone axe heads). I often wondered how the grooved axe heads would work in cutting trees and your video answered that -- they didn't work very well! However, I have a small celt, about 5" long, made out of hematite (iron ore) that has a very sharp bit edge, perhaps almost as sharp as a copper axe. The hematite from which the celt was made must be quite pure, because it looks much like an iron axe head. It would be interesting to compare the cutting abilities of the copper axe head and the one made out of hematite.
@davidstarr66047 жыл бұрын
When you speeded up the camera to show the chopping, all I could think of was, dude lay off the coffee LOL. Great video thx
@dakotarogers88288 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. Hopefully going to see more arrows and other cool builds in the near future. Keep up the great work.
@rhyswheeler195 жыл бұрын
But you have to consider the time to make each axe. The mining, purifying and forging of the bronze axe is much more work than the stone axe. Plus you can use different types of stone but for copper you need copper oar
@felixstr90824 жыл бұрын
I've made an axe with antler blade. It is made almost the same was Ötzis axe is. It performs really well.
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video of it, that sounds really cool
@Alarix2462 жыл бұрын
Well there were two things I noticed that slowed down your cutting (and as the prehistoric men knew it, they avoided it, if they didn't specifically need fresh, living wood): 1) cutting live tree - dry wood is choppable much faster and 2) chopping at waist height plus young tree caused the tree to recoil each time, which lowers the effectiveness of chopping significantly.
@MrBottlecapBill Жыл бұрын
I'll add to that list. Stone tools were NEVER used totally dull. They would be sharpened........always. Trees that small would be bent to add tension to the fibers before you start chopping and then broken off once the tree gave way. Large stone blades like the hand axe are often more effective as saws rather than axes. Ancient people worked smarter, not harder. Working hard when your next meal wasn't always predictable is often a death sentence.
@00Klingon Жыл бұрын
I miss these older videos. I’d love to see more exploration of how these ancient tools were used. Could either of these axes be used to split wood harvested this way to find dry kindling when conditions were wet? How hard would it be to process bark etc? I’d love to see these used for all the practical applications of an axe.
@KenGames452 жыл бұрын
I suspect the discovery of copper ore refining happened on accident. A potter mag have tried to use powdered copper ore as a glaze and found that it melted into copper.
@dwightehowell60628 жыл бұрын
The time savings is really not what I expected before I listened to what tool users had to say. I was thinking the much harder polished stone axes would have cut better but both you and Time Team agree that the cuts with stone are rattier and take longer. What the possession of a copper ax meant is rather harder to fathom. It was assumed that only the elite would have such a tool and many people don't think that Otzi was an elite so......
@dwightehowell60628 жыл бұрын
+Pedro Coutin Portuondo I've never tried it. I've watched the people on Time Team give a it a go more than once and you have to mine the ore and process the ore then make a heck of a lot of charcoal and then somebody has to make and work the bellows after making the furnace & the smelting process takes a rather long time so I think it actually is that hard.
@recoveringsoul7556 жыл бұрын
Dwight E Howell I just watched a video with people using lung power and blow tubes to make malachite into copper. I had no idea that copper came from malachite. I wasn't too good at Chemistry. But yes, they would need to acquire the malachite to start with.
@WadcaWymiaru5 жыл бұрын
Compare to metal blades, rock ones will never rust.
@PossumMedic4 жыл бұрын
I would hate to have lived in the copper age :S A lot better than stone but it looks like so much work to make for such a soft metal! Thanks for another great video!
@brendanlyster1958 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Another awesome vid by Shawn Woods!! The first copper axe you had that broke when you where chopping the yew for the bow, did you make that one as well?Keep up the good work! I just love the vids!
@TheTribeOfBenjamin8 жыл бұрын
Cool video, Shawn! Good to see that stone axe in use!.....Ben
@robinlillian94715 жыл бұрын
So, that stone axe lasted thousands of years. My modern pruning saw lasted maybe two years.
@TheWhoamaters3 жыл бұрын
Not an expert but last I knew a celt axe was the style of pressure fitting
@1959Berre6 жыл бұрын
The ancient copper contains impurities and other metals which makes it harder than pure copper.
@coreycoffell62196 ай бұрын
With modern science this contest is still going on...and a belt grinder is still the stone age.
@gunsmith199719977 жыл бұрын
one thing i always wanted to know was how the natives was able to stay warm in winter and was able to get enough wood for fire with just stone tools can u make a video on how u think they did it shawn ?
@kennethmaddock56546 жыл бұрын
Seems to me, it would have been easier to find a young beaver and train it to do the work for you,👅
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
It took me almost three years to realize why Dan's channel is called got rocks in head
@mzmadmike7 жыл бұрын
"This is thousands of years old. I'm going to beat it against a tree." But it held up. Though it should have been a sharpened repro.
@ComradeSulomon2 жыл бұрын
Thought this guy sounded familiar then I realized this is the mousetrap guy!
@snookaone7 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration. Thanks a lot for it. Also comes into play that the stone axe will dull and flint at some point, which are not practical to fix due to the nature of the material (stones), while the copper axe will also dull or bend over time, but on copper, these damages can be easily fixed. Copper is also easy to polish, and beautiful when freshly polished, aswell as more rare than regular stones, which probably resulted in it being a symbol of status. Another good quality of it is that it is soft and easy to mold or work into thin and elaborate shapes such as needles and other small tools. Even if you could craft such items out of stones, they would probably be too easy to break. Another thing to keep in mind when talking about copper, is that its rust is not as destructive or deforming as the iron rust, resulting in it actually holding a high value even deep into the iron age. Iron tools can also easily and quickly shape copper, something that would be hard to do on other iron items as material hardness control was not as practical with wrougth iron as it is with carbon steel.
Stone axe edges actually dont chip easily at all when the edge is ground
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
They also dont need to be resharpened ever believe it or not. I like to sharpen mine after cutting a few trees but they definitely dont need to.
@PhilSallaway6 жыл бұрын
Nice... not sure if this is correct it is my understanding that the stone hand axe was held and swung from the narrow end VS the middle
@fudgedogbannana6 жыл бұрын
Man was never primitive, those that didn't have copper tools made stone tools for what ever job at hand, same with stone spear and arrow heads.
@trevorschmidt90668 жыл бұрын
I love the vids. Keep them coming.
@mikesterbrau8 жыл бұрын
I loved it, thanks so much for doing this video! Keep it up!
@searley8898 жыл бұрын
Hey Shawn would you be able to make a video on how to make a primitive bird hunting arrow.
@PaulTheSkeptic7 жыл бұрын
Copper is clearly much better than stone but it will eventually wear down and dull but it can be sharpened again easily enough.
@davidnagore7258 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered pursuing and anthropological degree? The stuff you've posted on KZbin alone could be the beginning of a great thesis in experimental archeology. No joke. I made a similar suggestion to the youtuber on "Primitive Technology".
@isiahrodriguez647 жыл бұрын
copper really changed the world
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy6 жыл бұрын
at what point in time do you think iron axes came onto the scene?
@grigoriyefimovichrasputin7897 Жыл бұрын
That stone axe needs to be hafted to a better handle one that is longer and the handle should take the impact of the stone striking the tree by it cuffing the axe head, but the edge grind on the head of the axe In my opinion should be a chiseled edge.
@yungspoon51566 жыл бұрын
Anybody else think that the copper axe sounds like a woodpecker
@norsepool52736 жыл бұрын
Wow...short simple but very informative and educational. Thumbs up from Deadpool
@andrewsanders6027 жыл бұрын
I think that once you have weakened the branch you would then just break it.
@albertmata7244 жыл бұрын
wow nice ... not to many of us Humans know what your teaching ... Thanks
@smokymountainoutdoorsman19917 жыл бұрын
I feel like I could have broken the tree down with my hands faster than that stone axe cut it. Lol.
@busybythecreek7016 жыл бұрын
ya, sure, would you like to test that
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
It would split if you just tried to break it
@coreym8580 Жыл бұрын
While you're figuring out how to get away from shorts, this kind of content would be fantastic to see again! And 'primitive technology' videos are still pretty generally popular.
@MaxHohenstaufen6 жыл бұрын
correction: "pre-history of man". History came later, with writting.
@Crazywaffle51506 жыл бұрын
I call it a time when men truly started to refine science and technology. :). Super interesting. It is crazy that we went from stones to driving around in huge peaces of metal on wheels. Lol.
@b.c.survival34678 жыл бұрын
Great video maybe you should show how to make the hand ax.
@johnnikomerenillo35127 жыл бұрын
Shawn have a power called time he can speed things up
@slehar5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I always wondered... now I know. Thanks!
@grisbosque26148 жыл бұрын
Ive been wondering about this very issue long term. since learning of Otzi a couple years ago. whether the copper axe was functionally better. I think Otzi might have been part of a raiding party, probably for women. (there was no money to steal)
@JaySeraphon6 жыл бұрын
>tells us one is an actual millennias old hand axe >me while he's describing: "nononono please don't use that thing it should be in a museum >uses it >me: *SCREAMING INTERNALLY*
@slapshot1x5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well done.
@isiahrodriguez647 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt I'd be able to cut down a tree with a primitive hand axe, but boy am I glad I dont have to!
@A-G-F-5 жыл бұрын
Kinda felt bad when you used the handaxe, that thing is probably worth more than my house lol
@generalfish88496 жыл бұрын
Says that the hand axe is several thousand years old, *bashes it against tree
@KowboyUSA8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video; as always.
@jasminjasmin82413 жыл бұрын
Tumbnail: Ancient copper Titel: ancient stone
@thepalerider51214 жыл бұрын
!!! You forgot to Scream TIMBER !!!
@Derpinator-uz2vc6 жыл бұрын
Don't break that precious artifact
@Judge_Mike4 жыл бұрын
would be great to compare with steel also
@alierrtrillo93686 жыл бұрын
Who taught this boy how to chop wood?
@busybythecreek7015 жыл бұрын
What kind of rock was that celt made of. It looked like sandstone
@cosmicbilly3 жыл бұрын
Lol this makes my boys axe seem like a light saber... Thank god humans invented found steel lol
@rogersy67427 жыл бұрын
GOTROCKSINHEAD?! I LOVE THAT GUY LOL
@WMcKay36455 жыл бұрын
Thank God for steel.
@shade35387 жыл бұрын
1:05 real life 2:10 minecraft
@Adventurer-Rikth Жыл бұрын
People are in a habit of throwing uneducated opinions around... Yes Copper is a "softer" metal but it is not a "soft" material. Its still a metal amd ot will do great. Heck even silver of that size and weight would do a better job than stone leave alone copper.
@ssmmkk826 жыл бұрын
hey shawn i like your videos keep them coming.. have you ever watched [primitive technology] youtube videos?i think you'dd like them if you haven't seen them yet.
@danielkim93028 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work
@lopo80007 жыл бұрын
was this the old minecraft mode
@paulharris20826 жыл бұрын
Probably
@Luis_Facil5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@edwardbittojr24777 жыл бұрын
SOUNDS OF WOODIE WOODPECKER
@Despara5T8 жыл бұрын
Cool video.
@kenmichener84393 жыл бұрын
Sean you know if you go to the very bottom of the tree there is no flex it's all cut the lower you go the better you cut just trying to help it's a fact oh bro try it out love your content love where you doing God bless you and yours
@sabercat21783 жыл бұрын
>not making your own hand axe but instead bashing an actual artifact against a tree Shawn I love you but why did you this? That thing belongs in a museum, not in a primitive bushcraft video. Cmon man.
@tusk32607 жыл бұрын
try the celt ston axe its far better its made to be used with big hits
@Observed694 жыл бұрын
Wow I love axes
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
Same. I like making primitive tools and the axe is by far my favorite.
@JohnLeePettimoreIII5 жыл бұрын
1:36 you might want to switch to decaf.
@phalanyx34786 жыл бұрын
Shawn, have you ever seen a channel called newearth? Check her channel out, really interesting finds regarding history.
@whatsup59148 жыл бұрын
mix copper with tin to make it stronger
@reddunk19188 жыл бұрын
Cavemen can't make alloys lol
@seancoyote8 жыл бұрын
The reason why Bronze didn't happen earlier was that the two metals were rarely found together. Trading is what brought about the Bronze age. Utzi wasn't a cave man, he was late neolithic(new stone)/copper age which was a transition period of technology. In the time of Utzi, there was farming, brewing, pottery, domesticated animals, bread and smelting ores, and they lives in huts of woven wood and buildings of stacked stones and mud. . Do not mistake this for being a cave man.
@tonycallme36676 жыл бұрын
i just break the tree in half I don’t remember making this comment
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
The tree would split if you tried that
@ThunderMountainTactical8 жыл бұрын
As always. COOL!!
@sosteve91138 жыл бұрын
nice comparision atb steve
@ioann2354 жыл бұрын
Copper axe was handy to show high status and whack enemy heads. Bronze, latter on, was expensive as well and used for weapons shields ornaments statues dishes for nobility etc. Until the iron age stones were used very often. Iron was cheap enough to be used for plows in agriculture etc...
@tijlaerts3 жыл бұрын
Bronze axes, sickles & plow blades were certainly used during the bronze age in most places. Bronze plow blades didn't shatter like stone ones could. Metal sickles are a gamechanger for harvesting grains. Copper & bronze are certainly much more expensive than iron, and some stone tools stayed in use untill the iron age. But bronze tools were certainly used.
@babyraccyt34516 жыл бұрын
minecraft in a nutshell
@LeonardBillsMcGoatPryor6 жыл бұрын
But the stone axe looks cooler though. :T
@sauljapuntich8 жыл бұрын
and my Kelly double bit steel axe cuts that tree in one swipe
@goatmom87155 жыл бұрын
Weird flex but ol
@tijlaerts3 жыл бұрын
gratz on owning new technologies other people made for you
@josepimann73846 жыл бұрын
this is a comment for interaction score. thanks for the video.
@vaffelgris7 жыл бұрын
I like how you call Ötzi ootzi
@kaassaus42305 жыл бұрын
You could just break it, way less work.
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
It would split if you tried to (just break it)
@anthonycoplen88516 жыл бұрын
you need another guy stabilizing it
@jhny50487 жыл бұрын
i wanna make one primitive style but i dont know how and dont have the equipment
@sandervanduren27797 жыл бұрын
Jonny what do you mean by equipment? These were made without much equipment, just time back in the day.
@frankgon48 жыл бұрын
Well no surprises here
@dr.scarlet75866 жыл бұрын
Primitive Technology made a celt that did just as well as the copper axe
@williamwhite94814 жыл бұрын
Probably because it was bigger and he was hitting harder