Defender of the People - Tiberius Gracchus - Ancient Rome Documentary

[@-V-_-V-]

This seems really similar to current events to me. History doesn't repeat but it does rhyme...

[@DrunkenCoward1]

“The richest I% own XCIX% of property!“ - Senator Tiberius Sanders

[@khankrum1]

History does not repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes. @ Mark Twain

[@edenartgardenamusementmuse7253]

@@DrunkenCoward1 hahahahahahahaha!!!

[@MrNebelschatten]

This video was a bit naiv in its description of the events as far as historians can recreate those. It seems to go for the old and overturned description of a modern class struggle narrative with a noble Gracchus saving the populace. In reality both sides probably had valid reasons since all those people of the lower classes now would have been in debt to Gracchus after his reform according to the clientele- relationships that were dominant in the Roman society. This many clients would've made him the most powerful man in Rome overnight and would've led to conflicts between already existing client-patron relationships between the people and other senators. To understand the true relationships one has to see the powerful more along their family lines instead of their so-called "classes" (which wasn't really a thing in ancient history). This struggle can be better understood as a power struggle inside the gentes (family ties in a wider sense) of the nobility of the Roman republic

[@harrywang6792]

Drinking game: take a shot every time he said:"anyways". Kidding! That was a really good documentary, definitely saved me for my history assessment!

[@barakdan1858]

Amazing video, it really makes you wonder, if Tiberius had succeeded in his reforms, Rome might never have become a empire or fall for that matter. damn greedy senators ruining a good republic.

[@travisblack8767]

You just got another loyal sub keep up the great work man :)

[@divifilius2357]

I think I’ll just be waiting for the full documentary to come out from now on

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Playing around with the idea of making all the upcoming videos this length tbh

[@divifilius2357]

Tbh I would def prefer that man. Your quality in these videos shows itself and 3 min vids just don’t you justice. And when your making a 10 part series I tend to forget parts 1-3 by the time part 10 comes out lol

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

​@@divifilius2357 seems to be a common feeling! And thank you!

[@DrunkenCoward1]

11:12 Do you have a (preferably ancient) source on this? Because it doesn't sound right to me, I don't remember this type of... “trick“ being mentioned in Plutarch or Appian. I'm writting a term exam on Tiberius, so I'd be interested in reading up on that.

[@tracybalboa7834]

They were heroes, gracci brothers

[@malakiwickens9987]

Great Video!

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Thankyou!

[@HistoryUniversity]

LEGENDARY!

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Thankyou!

[@Wallyworld30]

How did The Nobleman get elected Tribune of the Pleb? You have to be of Plebian class to get that position. I remember Caesar arranged to have his patrician friend Clodius adopted by a random pleb to get his position. Was that loophole used often?

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Truth be told I don't rightly know!

[@Wallyworld30]

@@AncientHistoryGuy I looked it up. Tiberius Gracchus father was a Plebian but was a Consul of Rome. The Gracchus Family was one of the leading Plebian families. His mother was Patrician but Tiberius and his father were both Plebs. So no loophole needed.

[@khankrum1]

@@AncientHistoryGuy minimum property qualification.

[@The_Daily_Tomato]

Now I shall talk about the great Tiberius Gracchus. The Tybune Tiberius, Trybune Trybune Trybune......*Gets brain aneurysm* 😅 Seriously though, outstanding video. Have you thought about making a 10 minute plus your standard? 😊

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Thankyou and considering it aye

[@johnisaiah985]

The shogun has arrived Great premiere

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Yo!

[@johnisaiah985]

Ay Yo!

[@johnisaiah985]

This is probably I'm gonna comment on other videos "the shogun has arrived"

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

@@johnisaiah985 do it!

[@johnisaiah985]

@@AncientHistoryGuy can you please make a vid next time about the mongol invasion of Japan and the sengoku jidai period

[@Breakfast_of_Champions]

Tiberius and the internal contradictions of capitalism...

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Tbf

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Always been a thing

[@tylerdurden3722]

I think you mean Mercantilism. The Romans employed Mercantilism, not a free-market system (a.k.a capitalism).

[@Breakfast_of_Champions]

@@tylerdurden3722 It's accumulation of capital in the hands of few, and the means of production a.k.a. cheap slave labor destroying even subsistence farming. Mercantilism wasn't really defined either but I would rather put a protected trader class in Carthago and Phoenicia.

[@pierren___]

@@tylerdurden3722 cope

[@paulrhome6164]

Were Tribunate elections normally held on the Capitoline? The setting caught me as odd for the first time when I was rereading this story somewhere else. I had thought that all elections were done on the field of Mars, outside the walls.

[@Wallyworld30]

Did his camp really get sacked? I always heard no Roman camp was ever overtaken in the history of Rome. Even Pyrrus in Rome’s early days couldn’t take their camp. You did say a little bit of the camp so perhaps that didn’t count?

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Roman camps were quite often overrun. Even Alexander's camp was overrun at the Battle of Gaugamela. This particular battle saw the Spanish tribes loot a large amount of treasure from the camp, and because they Respected Tiberius name they would on negotiate with him.

[@Wallyworld30]

@@AncientHistoryGuy I think I heard it from Dan Carlin and he's admittedly a story teller not a historian. He sometimes doesn't let facts get in the way of a good story.

[@tylerdurden3722]

I don't think this was the marching camp we all know and love. It was probably more like a normal camp with only the baggage train there to defend it. This happened pre-Marian Reforms. After the Marian Reforms, each soldier carried a stake (or two🤔) and a spade, to conctruct camps. With much smaller baggage trains. So things were on a different level after the Marian Reforms.

[@estebanmartinezprado4342]

Thankyou I did not understand the reading we had to do lol

[@WilkensTokarev3]

I wanna say the Roman Senate was the main reason why The Roman Republic Died and again the Roman Empire ended! And most of all remember guys before Julius Caesar there was Tiberius Gracchus!

[@Rac.E]

This was very helpful for my assignment in school. Thank you very much :)

[@rorycampbell7490]

This video leads to an interesting question, how did the Italian cities get latin citizenship

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Marius I believe grants them all their citizenship after he defeats the cimbri. Saying he could not tell the difference between the Latins and the Italians in battle. Of course he himself couldn't find where the battle was taking place so he's not very observant evidently.

[@Wallyworld30]

They actually went to war over this called the “Social War” 91-87BC. Italians demanded Full Roman citizenship and the Senate said NO and crushed the uprising with Consular Armies. However even though the Italians lost the social war only 20 years later the Senate peacefully decided to make all Italians full Roman Citizens.

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

@@Wallyworld30 I will at somepoint cover the social war. Just a lot going on at mo need some time to breathe!

[@LifeInPink999]

To think he could have a comfortable life and one day be part of the senate and maybe then with more power start changing things. It was really stupid try this during his one year as tribute he also must have had a blind faith to be re-elected to avoid prison and death. Sure he was just and wanted the best but I feel that he was far too naive thinking that he could do this not even being part of the senate in one year and somehow all those poor people protecting him. He rushed things, failed, brought shame to his family and got his supporters murdered that’s not smart at all, a mistake made by a young man who wanted a shortcut to achieve something that should take years. Really depressing, if he had patience he could have had a career, supporters with actual power and maybe not being brutally murdered in the process.

[@SteelFlesher]

First time in a premeire

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Woop woop! Welcome to the chaos!

[@SteelFlesher]

@@AncientHistoryGuy do you have a discord server?

[@GH-lq9fg]

Why is the history guy covering Trump ?

[@regretfultoaster369]

What do you mean? Tiberius Gracchus isn't Trump, Trump is one of the rich elites and grifted his entire party and his supporters. How is Tiberius even like him?

[@tylerdurden3722]

@@regretfultoaster369 Gracchus was also a rich elite (a noble from a very prominent family). He was seen as a disgrace in the eyes of other Elites. Then he became very popular with the "deplorables" of Rome. Simultaneously, as he got more popular, he was despised by the other elites. The rich were getting richer. Cheap labor was being brought in. Etc. Also, propaganda was used by the other elites to demonize him and at the end paint him as wanting to stage a coup. Things precipitated in violent events at the main political building. But they managed to get rid of him and things were able to go back to the normal state of affairs (the status quo)

[@regretfultoaster369]

@@tylerdurden3722 Yes but the difference between Trump and him is Gracchus acted while Trump guised. Gracchus was indeed related to a Scipio and was a noble, but there is evidence that he didn't do it for political power and more for selfless reasons.

[@mikewazowski1776]

i like your videos, but honestly i think you repeat yourself a lot in this video could have had like 5-6 minutes cut, because you were just stating what you had said in a previous sentence or 2.

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

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[@skyhappy]

Some advice, it'd be nice if there was no music while youre talking since it's unnatural

[@mikethomas203]

Lol is this the story of Donald Trump?

[@GH-lq9fg]

Make Rome Great Again !

[@leahalliday5570]

Fantastic video!

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Thankyou!