And Straight to the BOTTOM... | Lime Rock Part 2

[@cantfit1877]

Love that the safety car is a teggy haha

[@KeanF84]

That was me! Hahah what a weekend! Stoked for this years

[@EricKutilRacing]

That was the highlight of my event lol, at least I got to cruise with a cool ITR haha

[@KeanF84]

@ haha ah man, I was so bummed for you. Stoked to see that car in person finally though! It will be better this year 👊

[@jamilgsr3410]

The parts of motorsports people don’t see. It’s not always rainbow farts and skinny dipping. Gotta LOVE it if you want to be apart of it. Sorry for the issues champ. Better luck next time. Love the content! ❤

[@cantfit1877]

Bro my life is a roller coaster through you 🤣 love these videos

[@EricKutilRacing]

Hahah thanks for joining the stressful ride!

[@zsracer7830]

Props to the boys for pushing to try and fix the car when spirts are down

[@Hippiemechanic]

Man I get frustrated when someone bumps me on Forza I can’t imagine this, awesome video

[@neilohyoo1295]

Damn bro! That’s devastating!! Hopefully you sort it out soon!! Love seeing how passionate you are with racing!!

[@EricKutilRacing]

Thanks bud, I appreciate it!

[@josephmatuszak3855]

Jeez my friend. Your quick responses to issues behind the wheel are stellar. Most people full on panic, you seem very comfortable going for solutions. Well, the nature of the beast, racing is one of the last true Sports for a reason...

[@rotrxentertainment5817]

The two outputs from accelerator pedal positions sensors are different voltages for example app1 outputs 0.5-4.5volts, and app2 outputs 0.5-2.5volts. By doubling one of these outputs the ecu would essentially be reading app1 and app2 as the same voltage and would cause and error since it's expecting a different value on one of them. If you were to be able to datalog app1 and app2 while on track you could look for a drop in one of the voltages which could be causing the issue. Hope you figure it out soon!

[@roadislandlife]

I was thinking this as well. I'm surprised he got away with it in previous races. Maybe after a while the sensor burns out? Idk Never liked electrical gremlins😭😅

[@coinvolti]

Hey Eric, thanks for sharing these videos... I randomly found your Mid Ohio pt.2 a few weeks and have been hooked ever since. From the up's and downs at the track, your skill & knowledge, passion & devotion and good attitude and sportsmanship you show while filming keeps me watching. I know it's not much but I hope my subscription helps you keep this channel going cause it's truly a pleasure to watch you do what you do. Best of luck sir!

[@LeoTunner]

Keep it up bro, everything is gonna be fine, love your videos!!

[@EricKutilRacing]

Thanks, I appreciate the support!

[@RA23GT]

Not a Honda fan but you have a hell of a car there!. Video editing is always on point ..really enjoy your uploads thanks !

[@hondatrix]

Man that absolutely sucks…. Please don’t give up. My body is too old to race now and I’m still young at heart..❤️

[@Zepolbboy]

I’ve been out of the track game for a bit but I definitely feel that a lot. Driving 6+ or a few hours long nights in the garage wrenching and developing the car and applying everything only to be hitting a road block. I’ve felt that big time had a huge ecu probably in my old integra only having issue on track. Just to do 1 lap and have to turn in it to the pits just to contemplate everything. I feel you brotha big time. One of the many lows. “Just keep on keepin on” 🤟🏽🤟🏽

[@SeansLittleBayofHorrors]

like others have said, most ECU's expect to see two different app signals that are inverse or offset to compare. If the ECU sees the same voltage it doesn't know where the pedal actually is so it kills the throttle control. I'm so bummed! I love watching you race!

[@jaythelonelydriver]

Damn.. Was so excited looking forward to this episode. But nonetheless great job! Still looking forward to the next one! 💪🏼

[@LifeSOSlive]

Mega bummer. We raced an 80's bmw 635csi and had weird intermittent misfires. Turned out to be overheating component on ECU. Got ice packs and wrapped ECU. Worked well enough until lost brakes and went off track removing oil pan. I hope you get it sorted. Feel for ya. Immense frustration. Looking forward to the next race when I'm sure you'll have it figured out after more hard work. It's darkest before dawn and all 😊

[@Talasas]

That DBW throttle issue is heart breaking. You were going so well 🙂 You gotta chase that gremlin down. Might be time to inspect the harness and consider moving to something like an environment sealed concentric twisted setup with good connectors.

[@joshracer5134]

Hey Eric, I had this exact issue on my k24 civic. The first time was the shit k series TPS I know yours is different but I'd start there. The next issue was the alternator stopped charging at high rpm only OEM is the only way to go on those I'm now 5 alternators deep

[@philmariop]

Brother... The effort, hours, dollars spent... I feel the frustration.

[@tunanocrustgarage]

As the race goes on you can feel the emotion as the car starts to act up.

[@ChrisClark_808]

Here for the ups and for the downs. Keep hustling sir!

[@hondanickx]

I think it's a broken wire in the engine harness. That's why it only happens on track .The engine harness gets thrown around much more then regular driving.

[@adinlouw]

This was very painful to watch man, I can only imagine the frustration you mustve felt.

[@MrLukasGreen]

🇨🇿 To je život - to se stává. To je motor sport... Doufám že už jsou všechny chyby na autě vyřešené a že jsi ty i sedan připraveny na další závody a vše je ve 100% kondici pro sezonu '25. Good luck. Keep going.

[@zachblack671]

Top teir videos. New favorite channel. Keep it coming!!

[@1stGenCRXs]

That sucks! I hate electrical issues. Never easy to capture or repeat when it’s convenient! Hope you get it figured out, I know you will!

[@dimitriliving]

I know this might sound silly but i had the craziest issue where a wire had cracked inside the sheeth, i had to use a multi meter and shake the wire to see it drop signal. I ended up replacing the broken section with a pig tail. It tends to break where a wire might have a big bend or loop. It was super tedious to diagnose.

[@tx9914]

It looks like the 8th gen civic struggles with the mac strut suspension to kep up with the double a-arm cars like yours and the tsx. What are your thoughts on those? Looks like the 8th gen rides way up high too.

[@J.Galvao76]

C´MON!!! I feel for you Eric... You HAD a strong car!! The way you were all over Houghton, and the way you both were pulling out on the field, it was just a matter of time to get P1... And I´m sure all 4 races were yours to get! These are the type of problems that makes you throw ayay your helmet... But there are those who battle until they emerge victorious... Their name isn´t Rambo..... it´s Kutil!! Push on bro! Make me live the live as a racer since I can´t get to do it!! Love your content!!

[@paulmontagnese7709]

Don’t give up on finding it, it also looks like it happens at when you flat shift on the uphill right hander.

[@RajK-e3n]

I feel for Eric. Must be frustrating as fk. I’m sure you’ll figure this out and be back out. Let’s go bro!

[@Dennisseg]

I waited for the weekend to Watch your video. I got very stoked after your last video. But that it was an video with this kind of problems I didn’t expect. I can say a few things But you are more experienced then I am 😆 you probally got fixed the isseu already. Hope to see a new video soon. For now ill go back into my garage to work on my sedan 😁

[@single_cam9199]

My car w/factory harness had same type of issue I know you said you see where it happens. My remedy for my issues was logging all sensors,cuts and voltage. Was bad g101 connection. After chasing threads >(important)and dielectric grease it’s like a brand new ride

[@gianniarduini3644]

Don’t have a Honda but love watching your videos . Had a misfire on the m3 did everything after a month finally swapped out the ecu fixed the problem

[@atthelimit88]

I had this issue and installed a new throttle sensor\pedal and haven't seen it come back knock on wood. The BRZ throttle pedal rod is flimsy and it seems like it was messing up the sensor sweep.

[@rickyinthavong6702]

Love the content! I binged your journey the last 48hrs 😂

[@illumaesthetic]

I'm too emotionally invested in this

[@Sethie216]

Keep your head up man, love your videos!

[@FS.Racing]

Amazing video! I feel for you, but glad all is well now! See you in the SE if you come back!

[@louKushh]

absolutely heartbreaking. race-pace-winning-car too. sorry dude. Godspeed, and get 'em next time.

[@EricKutilRacing]

Tell me about it!

[@marcobaldus4394]

Well... this will make the next win even sweeter! we love what you do man! Your driving is impeccable and your gear switching is on point! I will have to read the rules for Gridlife, but what about sequential gear box like the infamus Ferio eg9 STP?

[@josephmatuszak3855]

After weekends like that, I swear I spend the next week asking my car what she really wants.... and how I can help lol. Don't beat yourself up, this is one of those problems that could take something stupid simple, or not. I'm not a electrician guru or anything, but sometimes it comes down to analog testing each sensor and wire... til ya find the anomoly(s). (I had an idea, maybe check the no lift shift, maybe vibration?) - Is something heating up at a certain point and losing connectivity? (I have seen happen with ECU and alternators and such before) - Is the fluttering of the throttle body creating a mis read on hard or quick changes like shifts?

[@anthonyrobitaille8963]

Are you using shield wire for the pedal sensor and throttle body? Pretty sure you can try to contact Haltech about this too maybe it is an issue they already encountered!

[@bryanzimmerman8737]

Did you ever find the root cause of the TB issue? While I don't have direct personal experience with this, but I have heard from a few friends that the connector on the Bosch TB is a known problem. A groove wears in the pins or the connector, I am not sure which, and causes intermittent issues especially with high vibrations. One fix that others have had success with is to solder and pot the connector on the TB itself, and then run those wires to a 6P DTM connector or similar. Just something to check if you have not done so already. Looking to install a DBW on my personal car soon as well. Love the videos!

[@tiago_bernardes]

Sorry for you and all the gremlins man, you don't deserve this, and the car was a really weapon... any way, about TPS issue... just a crazy idea, but try to do not limit the power by the percentage of throttle body but by restring more the plate and have a full cycle (0-100%) to the throttle body...

[@joekinghondas3553]

It’s like it happens down then top the hills like fuel n gravity doing it boss 😢this sad u work so dam hard but this car maken u know know her once figured out ur goin to be unstoppable brotha keep tryin

[@letmejustdoit]

Have you found the issue, Eric?! I had s similar issue on a much simpler race car out here, ended up being debris in the fuel tank, man... It was an old Miata, the tank had rust inside. Maybe check that...? Anyways, good luck. My buddies and I watch your stuff here in Utah.

[@TURBOTRISTO]

New pedal sensor and pedal set up might help

[@waltersmith3165]

I felt that moment in the car trying to compose yourself. Did you ever find out what caused the issue with the car?? Also, really awesome to see your team have your back trying to get the car running while you were dealing with it.

[@justintime2472]

Also the team is in good spirits and energy very positive

[@pastorraudel1261]

Remember for some of us a $600 track is a dream that happens once a year. Chin-up! Warriors fall but get back up. Be grateful as you are safe and sound and live to fight another day 🙌🏽✝️❤️

[@m1northreat]

Good ol race car problems.

[@MrNicodrift]

Frustrating ! ... I was tempted to say : vibrations. I have the same brand of TPS on my K20, but with Jenvey ITB's. I had some problem where the TPS Signal suddently go to zero. You could try to patch the wires or extend them (6/8centimeters) with thicker wire gauge, an then crimp into the Deutsch plug. These wires are so thin, in my case they didn't fully crimp and were loose. Even with a touch of solder to secure them, they shake and disconnect. Another thing to try (to remove stress on the TPS) is to convert the pedalbox to cable and use a Acura CL9 TPS sensor, and maybe mount it on rubber to isolate, same with ecu..

[@carportmods]

Man, I got bummed like I'm racing. I know the depleting gut-wrenching feeling when there's issues. I gave up on my first project back in the day and sold it. It was bad Injectors.🤦🏾‍♂️ I hope you got it figured out now. I have a Haltech 1500 waiting for my current project. I hope it wasn't the ECU.

[@TassieLorenzo]

"I hope it wasn't the ECU." Given nearly everything else has been checked (and the throttle body, and those boards, are now brand new), what if it is just a bad diode, or bad resistor, or bad trace or bad solder joint on the ECU? Would it need to be sent back to Haltech to be fixed by them under warranty to not void the warranty?

[@carportmods]

@@TassieLorenzo I'd most definitely send it back to them.

[@TURBOTRISTO]

Time for a Bosch 68mm or 74mm DBW TB T7Designs make a nice adaptor I can arrange a freebie if you want man

[@staytuned9176]

Don't ground that TPS to the body. It needs to be a shielded ground back to the sensor ground circuit on your Haltech to avoid errors and offsets.

[@EricKutilRacing]

Yeah we undid that after the first failed race attempt and connected back to the ecu

[@staytuned9176]

​@EricKutilRacing same as the TPS sensor ground that was on the head?

[@Talasas]

Yes! Sensor grounds feed back in separate to the power grounds.

[@mitchellrobinson9810]

Absolutely sucks man, but I’m kinda shocked, does the Haltech not have enough data logging built in to be able to graph all the TPS inputs and functions and see what it’s actually losing?

[@EricKutilRacing]

You can log like 70 or more channels at a high frequency rate. I had my usual logging setup which gets me all crucial data. We eventually switched up the channels for more data related to throttle and their voltages.

[@mitchellrobinson9810]

@ yeah fair game! Well I really hope you can get on top of it, those electrical gremlins suck! I’d be border line building a seperate loom from ECU to all TPS items just to take wiring out of the equation, then it’s really only sensors or ECU’s that are left to focus on 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@ApexHunter89]

Man, the heartbreak was palpable. Hoping you got everything ironed out over the off season and kick 2025's ass. Say hello to John Raymond from Bryan at XX when you see him this season!

[@jeffreymoffitt4070]

Ouch my dude. That sucks!!

[@ravisieun8218]

1 st place launching emps 😂

[@EricKutilRacing]

Lmao! Shit that was probably it lol

[@hurricanechurro3655]

Kept asking if we could smell it. When he smelled the coil pack I was putting socks on and was like hmm and smelled my sock 😭

[@EricKutilRacing]

Hahaha that's funny!

[@tengogogilashvili8926]

Thats racing, sometimes your winning car just dont wants to go, this ups and downs makes racing exciting, dont worry ✌️ hard days are the best, thats when champions are made💪 i think this is fuel pump or tank reservoir issue, or maybe some intank problem, because when you turn right and G comes to car fuel cut happens, fuel pump is on the right side yeah?

[@MichiganTrailRider]

Not joking with my question. Do they make a cable style throttle body for the motor ? If they do is it something that would be worth it to change ? Or do you need to have to the drive by wire ?

[@EricKutilRacing]

They do yeah. I used to run my k24s with cable for a few seasons and upgraded to drive-by wire for the extra features. Even with cable TBs, you can still have TPS issues due to the sensor on the tb. But yeah, maybe more robust overall.

[@MichiganTrailRider]

@@EricKutilRacing I’m on haltech as well but zero experience with dbw that’s why I was asking. I guess if the dbw features can be overlooked maybe just going back to what worked in the past would be easier than chasing the weirdness you have going on. Nonetheless enjoy the channel keep on keeping on . Little persistence I’m sure you will get back on the track.

[@rhddc2]

Try running all new wires from ECU to TB just to eliminate anything possibly broken in the harness

[@markwilkinson9302]

Bro that broke my heart! The ups and downs of racing hey!

[@EricKutilRacing]

Yeah, a lot of downs lately ha!

[@davidthompson952]

@@EricKutilRacing you know what that means right... there's a lot of ups coming, so keep your head up and keep moving forward. love the build btw

[@EricKutilRacing]

Thanks buddy!

[@hyde_official]

it was a fun weekend but sad to have seen you off the battle.

[@jayddv12]

I think it has something to do with the fuel being pushed towards the TB which is confusing the TPS sensor. Fuel should not be pushed back towards the TB. Maybe check intake gasket is not perhaps the issue or injector o-rings

[@staytuned9176]

The tps is insulated from the intake. The fuel would just be from the misfires / prime pulse when he was restarting it

[@jayddv12]

@staytuned9176 I understand that but if there is fuel in TB then there is fuel in intake, which can be a result of faulty injector, a problem with the ecu, intake manifold gasket has failed or even fuel pressure regulator has gone bad

[@jayddv12]

@staytuned9176 and sorry I meant TB

[@roadislandlife]

​@@jayddv12if he was having fuel issues he would have injector misfires or airflow misfires. His codes keep coming back for throttle. I think the backfire when the issue happens is what brings the fuel back into the intake.

[@jayddv12]

@@roadislandlife Point taken, but I still stand by that the issue could be fuel related if there is a cut during full throttle. He has already gone through the wiring, changed TB and made sure no wires are exposed but still had the same issue. Which tells me, it could be something else that is triggering the warnings, something they think is not related but could actually be related. Other times when you would have throttle cut on full depression is when there is not enough fuel coming through or perhaps the Mass Air Flow sensor has gone bad. I don't know, I'm just spitballing what I myself have had experience with under full throttle and had no response from it.

[@cgrschannel7256]

Every K swapped Honda I see using a Haltech. Always seem to have sensors that fail. Mine included. Motec is the answer.

[@focussport]

I love your content, especially because of campaigning a sedan, but I know EVERY TIME your videos come up its going to be an exercise in frustration. I really hope luck goes your way sometime soon!

[@roadislandlife]

Ikr? He's like the best and worst guy to watch😂😂😭😭!!

[@geralrodzlife4440]

Any way to change to cable??? Instead of drive by wire could be the best solution

[@EricKutilRacing]

Yeah, it's possible. Just not something I could have done at the track, didn't have all the parts.

[@MartinThillemann]

Sorry to see you suffer- what a bummer. Your grit makes me smile though. Never surrender. Did the vent in the hood do any differenct to the cooling?

[@chadl.981]

I haven't finished the video yet, but I'm betting a ground issue or loose pin on the TB or APP connectors. Edit after finishing: Looks like you suspected the same thing and attempted all repairs to no avail. I know all this was filmed earlier last year, but have you checked to see if you are getting sync loss? It could actually be a problem with the CKP and CMP sensors/wiring.

[@EricKutilRacing]

I eventually found the issue and it was completely unrelated to anything TPS or throttle. Such a weird issue that caused so many problems for a while...

[@roadislandlife]

​​@@EricKutilRacingdude what was it??! I'm vaguely remembering you might have mentioned it in another vid?

[@EricKutilRacing]

@roadislandlife clutch pedal pressure sensor, it was glitching out

[@roadislandlife]

@@EricKutilRacing wow😦💩is wack!

[@alltheboost5363]

This is why I don't like electronic throttle bodies.

[@run_stop_restore]

I work in calibration for more than 10 years now (OEM and Motorsport), ETB's work just fine if the ECU, Wiring and Calibration is done properly. And sorry to say, i've seen stuff like this a lot with the low/mid level ECU's. Top Racing Skill Eric, new to this channel and i absolutely love it!

[@MattDeReus]

Hate seeing you struggle like this. Hopefully you can find something in the logs that will point you in the right direction.

[@EricKutilRacing]

Yeah, we figured it out eventually but not the way one would expect lol

[@bmxkelowna]

We would love it if you could mic up your helmet so we could hear you talking to your crew!

[@EricKutilRacing]

Yeah, ive been thinking about adding something like that

[@roadislandlife]

​@@EricKutilRacingThat's a lot more editing of "naughty" words😅. I personally don't mind but you know..KZbin things.

[@tvorogILItvorog]

❤

[@Detailedracing]

Serious question is there race etiquette in gridlife. Or is it screw the next guy no matter what?

[@chuckvaldez4149]

THAT'S RACING!!

[@chadbenjamin8118]

What a bummer. 😢.

[@drewsheesley1952]

28:39 if you havnt yet like this video

[@Toms_Hondas]

I have always heard that haul tech has issues.. I'm not sure, never used them personally. I've always used hondata. but dude I think you need a new harness and different ECU. Maybe look into a link ECU..

[@camerongrady580]

I think it's time for a new harness.

[@gothicpagan.666]

What's the cost of the entry for the weekend?. 4 races is double what we get for £780 in the UK. for the same club level racing

[@christophermiyamoto9129]

Did you notice any drop in the voltage?

[@norevlimitr1602]

I was frustrated just watching, ughhh. Start checking continuity on each wire in the harness. Or possibly a chafed wire that only acts up under high G force and vibration.

[@curtisliddell7486]

Chin up. Go again.

[@florian_montuzet]

I was so frustrated for you. I wish you have fixed it by now.

[@EJTYPER1]

Man that’s tuff but maybe a sign to hold off , bigger things to come

[@justintime2472]

It wasn’t that TPS I didn’t see you changing it but with all the blipin and stuttering

[@quinton7854]

is it too late to go back to OEM lol

[@TassieLorenzo]

OEM as in a cable, or OEM as in a OEM electric throttle body from an 8th/9th gen Si or something? It seems like Eric is already using an OEM Honda throttle body (electric one).

[@josesalas5214]

Bad luck!….sorry brother

[@Олександр-у3ю]

Man check a crankshaft position sensor

[@EricKutilRacing]

Wasn't related to crankshaft, was checked.

[@brain-Undrain]

pedal potentiometer

[@dubbleA100]

This sucks bro! I really hope you're data logging

[@peopleschampgarage7869]

Motec?

[@L-ot5fs]

Don't feel bad this was an opportunity for someone else to win. Your car clearly dominates the series. You're in one piece your car is in one piece.

[@arthursilveira680]

Put a Fueltech

[@Koreasinzzang79]

한국에서 응원합니다

[@canyonracer1857]

go back to a cable throttle body

[@infinitexsound6087]

electric gremlins suck