Chandler Halderson & Covert Narcissism

[@flyoverurbangarden4315]

My 94 year old mother watched the trial on tv, one day she said "Look at this anemic little worm, he's the one who murdered his parents so he wouldn't have to get a job".😂

[@Daysleeper1000]

Your mom is hilarious 😆

[@WobblesandBean]

Your mom is right. That's the one thing that I just can't get over with Chandler, he is so BORING! He's so milquetoast, he is literally made of milk and toast. He eats his cereal with plain water, because milk is too spicy for him. If his braincells were people, they would all be named Doug. Yet this guy. THIS guy. Kept a long con going on his family and his girlfriend for years. A beautiful, kind, forgiving girlfriend at that, *_who he cheated on,_* and yet she still forgave him. He only ever thought of himself, other people didn't matter to him beyond what he could get out of them.

[@freyashipley6556]

Your mom is truly eloquent!

[@mickymitts3031]

Pretty much! He had a video game addiction, and he was a compulsive liar.... Despicable, he never gave his parents a chance to be grandparents!

[@katalac]

Well put

[@daisywrabbit]

I did find it interesting that he brought up the smokiness of the green egg grill. When I watched the interview with his girlfriend, she said the house smelled smoky. My theory was that he mentioned the green egg being smoky to explain why the house smelled smoky, when it was actually smelling that way because he burned body parts in the fireplace.

[@VRJones62]

Of course! I hadn't put those together, I was confused why he mentioned the smoky food, clever of you

[@nomudnolotus4410]

Similar to the ball breaking the window to explain his blood being present at the house. Just slipped that little story in there without any prompting or relevance to what the cops had asked him. He thinks he can outsmart everyone.

[@22ergie]

Strange thing is, he said it was a TENNIS ball! I don't care how hard you throw a tennis ball, you won't break a fireplace glass door, unless you're maybe a MLB pitcher.@@nomudnolotus4410

[@jimmers5624]

@@nomudnolotus4410his blood was from the fire place breaking but not from a ball from the heat of the fire and he stepped on it

[@alfalfa2155]

Damn I never thought of that, good catch

[@hivemindconcussion2173]

Chandler has the personality of a wet noodle. His superpower is putting people to sleep. Lucky those detectives drink coffee or energy drinks before these interviews.

[@missmiri4302]

wet noodle 🤣 And I get aggressive hearing this boring, toneless voice

[@yolandecloete2186]

💯

[@mickymitts3031]

Hahahahahahhahahaha. Lol!!!!!

[@madeline3868]

He was trying to act like he had a brain injury which is ironic to me as I’ve worked with TBI patients that are more animated and personable than him.

[@jimsworthow531]

great metaphor; he lulls people .

[@Seldarius]

The Soda text always seemed particularly nasty to me. He knew he was going to kill her, but still expected her to bring him home a gift for his efforts. 🤢

[@Jaelismyhomegirl]

@@Seldarius i read somewhere that they kept soda in a fridge they had in the basement. There’s a theory that he didn’t have time to clean up his father’s remains before she got home, so he asked her to get soda on the way home, hoping she’d go directly to the basement to put it away (where he was waiting to shoot her). Still could have said “please”, though.

[@wsean87]

He was gonna be thirsty after cutting up her body..he really is a worm

[@SongJLikes]

He was buying time to create the ambush for her, which yes, probably involved cleaning his father’s remains, at least partially.

[@PrincessFairyGirl]

I’ve always thought this bit to be so chilling and disgusting too… so disturbing, his mother must have loved him so much because she was allowing him to sleep in their living room😂😂😂 definitely enabling him with his lifestyle BECAUSE SHE LOVES HIM. So chilling.

[@yummyjackalmeat]

I knew someone would mention this in one of the top comments. It really pushes an already bonkers case over the edge. How dare he ask her to serve him when he knows he's murdering her when she gets home.

[@ttttiiimmy10bit]

the opening statement from prosecution was amazing, it completely nails chandler and is brilliantly laid out.

[@Bb63kGTcyka]

This. William Brown.

[@날Gnarleigh리]

That hour long opening statement is one of my go to driving tracks 😅

[@NicOneRockRec]

William Brown put on a masterclass. It wasn't just in the opening, although that was his best moment, but his closing as well. 10/10

[@bonniejosavland3227]

The judge was amazing as well!

[@jimbo91262]

Bravo! Speeding up his interview made it watchable. His monotonic way of communicating makes me nauseous. Thank you!

[@alyssajchase]

One of the few cases I can’t get out of my head. I think because Bart and Krista seemed like great loving parents that wanted the best for their sons & for their adult son to do something with his life. So many children would love to have parents like the Haldersons and yet Chandler butchered them. He took Mitchell’s entire family away from him. I don’t believe in the death penalty but Chandler makes me question my position. F him!

[@bonniejosavland3227]

I don’t understand their lack of detail into his schoolwork, schooling & work?! I realize it was during Covid but me discussing work issues (I have a part-time State job after HS & graduated early & the same job every summer for 4 years-out of state college (I loved working)!😮

[@DonnaLena1]

Like the covert narcissist that he is, Chandler is always the victim. He’s always slipping small things into his conversations, letting everyone know that he isn’t getting everything he deserves. That’s on top of his constant excuses about adult things like paychecks, jobs, and the few household chores that his parents expected him to do. His girlfriend was being trained as an eventual replacement for his parents. She dodged a bullet.

[@22ergie]

AND probably quite literally 'dodged a bullet' as well!

[@melinatedvessel6840]

Indeed she did,he wld've likely betrayed her eventually as well..

[@jborrego2406]

​@@melinatedvessel6840seems like he was trying to blame her parents. With leave dead body on there property. Saying they really didn't like his parents . Gun in there shed

[@Yasser.Osman.A.Z.]

I very much believe he did not kill his parents. He could've killed his future wife or maybe his boss or even a family member. Whoever got in his way or caused him a problem that is embarrassing to him or hurting his narcissistic personality, he could've simply eliminated whoever is causing this problem. 😊

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

@@Yasser.Osman.A.Z.What? He didn’t kill his parents? Then who did?

[@WobblesandBean]

Thanks for covering covert narcissists, I think it's important. Everyone loves to point at malignant narcissists like Anthony Todt and Nancy Brophy, but hardly any attention is on coverts like Chandler. People like Chandler terrify me, cuz I mean...just look at him. He presents himself as this geeky, milquetoast kid. But deep down, he's an arrogant, selfish, vindictive, manipulative, entitled monster.

[@littlebird3495]

Yes, and I personally think covert narcs are way more common than the classicals.

[@Shann381]

I don't know who Nancy brophy is?! I'll have to search her name and go down another rabbit hole lol

[@FranklyRanunculus]

​@@Shann381 hoo boy, you're in for an interesting one lol

[@Shann381]

@@FranklyRanunculus oh my. I....I....I'm lost for words lol. Let me wipe this look on my face off and try to process her on the witness stand 😂She doesn't shut up! Someone get her a shovel so she can keep digging lol. So let me get this straight, she bought the gun as research for the book she was writing? That's like me saying ice cream cones? Never heard of them? I better buy one and get the sprinkles on the side for the research my stomach will be doing Edit: she ate her husband right? Jk 😎 I need to work on my analogies lol

[@ShannonMichelle7937]

@@Shann381Nancy Brophy is unbelievably sick and horrible. It’s wild watching her on the stand. These people are terrifying! Killing kind parents, husbands, children, or whoever else inconveniences them and their lies.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Dude knew the difference between games and life. He is a psychopath. His needs were all being met by others, and that was about to end. So he removed the obstacles. But bring me soda first, I'm thirsty. We'll squeeze a little more utility out of you.

[@2-pistols]

Just think if he had a full grocery list for her to fill for him that would last a week. Definitely a last utilty. The ultimate betrayer

[@LisaHere5]

Parents were horribly codependent

[@johns1625]

He told her to get soda so she would go into the basement to put it in the fridge. That's where he shot them.

[@Shann381]

And then asked his girlfriend for 5$ for a snack and soda lol. Good point out!

[@birdie9240]

Wow! That’s so true. And his poor mom did it with a smile. 😔

[@DonnaLena1]

Chandler was a sneaky little snake hiding in his parents’ nest, and when he was exposed, he struck out at the two people whose lives he had no concern for.

[@grantkeller4634]

All this because he was too dumb to make a fake transcript

[@brandyyolidio4213]

Sneaky indeed, that is the least of his setbacks he cut up his own parents, his own mother... And can accept a pizza from concerned neighbors...Smh

[@Yasser.Osman.A.Z.]

He was just a simple psychopath. He even said it to his ex-girlfriend that his psychiatric told him that he holds all the characteristics of a psychopath, he was proud when he said it and also was amongst the very few times he was joyful when he said it. 😮🎉🎉🎉 I heard it while watching that 48-hour documentary about this case. It was posted right after his conviction and before his sentencing. I was so obsessed with this case. The amount of stupidity he exhibited was staggeringly high. I believe if he was actually planning to get intentionally caught, he still wouldn't have done it that stupid.

[@anne.enrique]

​@Yasser-The-Mummy hi where is this documentary? Ty

[@michelekisly2535]

Covert NARCISSISTS are the most DANGEROUS

[@maryannanderson2213]

Update: He talks a lot about how distraught the dogs were over the Fourth of July fireworks and how they were running all over the house and wouldn't eat and he couldn't get them to go outside. I know dogs are upset over the sound of fireworks but I have to wonder if just maybe they were also distressed because they had witnessed two people they loved get shot and then cut into pieces. It seems to me that would cause them a bit more trauma than the sound of firecrackers. I don't know exactly when dad started the grill but it was somewhere around 8:39. That sounds like a really specific time to me but then what do I know about the price of eggs in China? Chandler never misses an opportunity to make his dad look bad. He's basically saying, "I didn't take his life but he sure did deserve what happened to him." Dad was furious because I broke the glass and (like a child) he didn't talk to me much the rest of the day. Dad sent me to my room. When Dad gets mad we just have to leave him alone because if we say something to him it sets him off and he starts yelling. Dad doesn't like it when we don't cook. Dad doesn't take his phone into the cabin: he leaves it in the car. Dad doesn't talk when he's eating. He told Cat that his parents didn't want her in their house. I believe the truth is that Chandler didn't want Cat and his parents to have the opportunity to talk because apparently the lies he told Cat were not exactly the same lies he told his parents and he didn't want them to be able to compare notes. In fact, he told Cat and her mom so many negative things about his parents that her mother, who had never met his parents, had a healthy dislike for them and the way they treated poor little Chandler. Bart and Trista were such bad parents that even though little Chazzle was recuperating from that horrendous fall he had taken, they just went off to their cabin leaving him all alone and that infuriated Cat's mom because any mother worth her salt would have stayed home with her injured son. But then I guess he couldn't really tell her that the reason they weren't with him was because he had already scattered their separate parts to different locations on the map! When someone who never met them doesn't like them, you know it's based solely on what dear Chandler told her about them. Strangely enough, NO ONE else had a negative word to say about them...just dear little Chandler, who seems to be putting out there that IF something bad did happen to them, CLEARLY they deserved it! Chandler is one of the most unlikable people I have heard anything about!

[@judithgannon5642]

It surprises me how easily people believe bad things about others.

[@joycemarie9702]

Everything he said about his father was basically the exact opposite of the type of man his father was! Bart was a hardworking, successful,supportive, loving, caring man….. and everyone knew it. The same could be said of Krista….not one person had a single negative thing to say about them. Chandler hated his father….chandler was nothing and would never be successful…. He had no problem killing the two people that loved him . I am so happy that his brother Mitchell wasn’t at the house because he would have been killed too. Chandler hated his parents and brother….they were everything that he could never ever be.

[@mollycline5589]

He had his girlfriends mother so fooled that they stood by him during the trial!

[@annieb5647]

Chandler said his dad started grilling around 8:30-9:00.

[@NickyBlue99]

​@@mollycline5589 Cats mom doesn't seem to be the smartest lady to be fair.

[@oswaldomayberry9260]

You can tell chandler is disgusted by his father and despises him by the unflattering way he speaks of him, fully knowing he’s recently murdered him

[@Jaelismyhomegirl]

@@oswaldomayberry9260 yeah, that’s the first thing I noticed. People don’t usually say mean things about family members who are missing, even if they didn’t get along. They don’t even act that way toward family members who have been murdered (not publicly, anyway).

[@RatherBHunterthenPrey]

He spoke as if his parents were morons and he had to constantly check on them for simple tasks.

[@leenasanderson6739]

Your take on chandler and the convoluted thinking associated with covert narcissism absolutely corresponds with my experience of a cn. He presented as a warm empathetic exterior until his lies were catching up to him and as he couldn't bear reality, he became the coldest, most calculating individual that I only loosely would describe as human. Worse, is looking back I could see that I overlooked so many red flags simply because, like chandlers poor parents, you simply cannot believe that the person you think you know, is actually the most dangerous individual in your life, with potentially fatal consequences.

[@birdie9240]

Scary! 🫣 Sounds like you got out just in time.

[@jurassichardwareleedsichth892]

Yes, exactly how you explain it! 😮

[@Susanne-ro8qm]

What where the red flags for you? My former best friend has a new boyfriend and I believe he is a covert narcissist mixed with other things.... I question my gut feeling and would like to compare the red flags.

[@york-houngan7193]

I think he said noon thirty then apologized because he was trying to give off the impression that he was still having neurological issues and was mixing up his words.

[@guf616]

I agree! The “brain injury” basically explains the entirety of the bizarre nature in which he’s speaking during the interview. It’s not guilt or nervousness, it’s another performance like all the others he’s got going on. His cadence, pausing, bizarre sentence structure/word choice, staring & emotionless behavior. Everything. Just another mask he was wearing to avoid dealing with reality. It’s a crutch. What an exhausting way to live…

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

​@@guf616 I agree, a lot of his off-putting behavior was him intentionally trying to "play sick"/damaged.

[@billchessmen]

I've always heard if you expose and confront a narcissist in their lies and meanness they can be very dangerous and violent, and Chandler Halderson proved that

[@jeanettecook1088]

I'm living proof of this. My covert narc mother nearly murdered me when I was 4. I had seen something she didn't want me to remember, or tell anyone else. My father saved me. She hounded and abused me intensely for the next 10 years. She had the same vacant stare and boring tone as Halderson. 🎉

[@날Gnarleigh리]

You cant be disappointed with these type of people… only way to beat is to completely ghosting them

[@PrayerPartnerExtraordinaire]

​@jeanettecook1088 wow and woe!

[@meganwilson2742]

@@jeanettecook1088may i ask how she was “covert” and not just a regular narcissist?

[@jeanettecook1088]

​When I was 29, I unwittingly exposed her. Her mask fell and what I saw was a completely different person than I had known. Coverts operate under a heavy facade, pretending to be someone other than themselves. They act like lambs in public, but quietly and savagely rip families apart. There are other traits, so you might want to look up more videos or books on this subject...on this channel and others. (I also follow Drs Vaknin and Ramani).🎉

[@Marigold502]

His dog/ball story must have been a gift to the detectives. "Go check out the fireplace."

[@KEON-eb8iv]

Tennis ball is to soft to break glass.. He should have said baseball. lol..

[@mrwilliamwonder]

@@KEON-eb8iv He said the dogs shoulder did it

[@subrosa4792]

@@mrwilliamwonderthat doesn’t hold water either. Did he think the cops were gonna believe that the dog’s shoulder broke the fireplace glass? Chandler assumes that EVERYONE is as dumb as he is!

[@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph]

The thing is EVERYONE had always believed his lies, he assumed the police would

[@Marigold502]

@@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph Yes. He was shocked into asking for a lawyer.

[@jrelevates1574]

It's impressive how detectives manage to act as if everything is cool, when they already know.

[@Bigger-Than-Jesus]

never reveal your cards!

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

"shrimp less scampi" was obviously supposed to be another one of future stand-up comedian Chandler's "hilarious jokes" that went over like a lead balloon.

[@9876abc]

I think I also heard him say "kitchen peninsula"...

[@SitavNabi]

Noon thirty

[@AMoonDancer]

He’s not a bad looking guy (for a prisoner), so he can still tell his jokes in between getting plowed in prison.

[@lauriepenner350]

Wouldn't that just be a pan full of garlic butter?

[@SitavNabi]

@@lauriepenner350 and lemon

[@ronalddesiderio7625]

The only thing you ever say to the cops 👮🏿‍♀️ is I have nothing to say to you without the presence of my attorney. Ever !!!

[@ScoobyDoozy]

Cornell research in 2011 interviewed murderers about the day of their crime. Killers with ASPD talked significantly about food & what they ate that day; non ASPD killers did not. Just a fun little tidbit, I was reminded of this listening to all Chandlers references to food.

[@Bb63kGTcyka]

Interesting. Appreciate you.

[@m3ntyb]

This is exactly why all the monologues in American Psycho.

[@SpecialBlanket]

lol! my partner is dx’d aspd and always seems to give me the Food Report. Maybe they’re just really into food bc they’re sensation-seekers?

[@dollydevilish22]

@@SpecialBlanketmaybe its because its something "real" that they can rely on telling? Like eating something is a concrete thing but most of the life of a narcissist is in their head 🤔

[@subrosa4792]

Anti social personality disorder. ASPD. I had to look it up. I didn’t know what those letters meant.

[@JediBunny]

Your channel is excellent! Incredible work so far; your respectful coverage and nuanced insights feel so valuable in a time where these cases are often sensationalised and used as entertainment fodder rather than trying to educate and understand. Thank you!

[@bthomson]

I agree.

[@fichaeljmox6532]

I could listen to 4 hours of this. Thanks for making these!

[@bthomson]

One of the few trials I have watched all the way through! Riveting! This heartless monster may be one of the worst!💔💔

[@lesliekupchanko5001]

Someone said that Chandler struck him as an Alien 👽 It made me pause for thought. But then I can't see his mom birthing an Alien. ------ I see him as a (Bible warning) 2 Timothy 3 character

[@sleepygirl3022]

I really think he is one of the worst! This crime haunts me. People continue to go back again and again to the Chris Watts case but this is one I just can’t get my head around. What kind of monster could do this to the two people who’ve loved, protected and provided for you your entire life!? His Mum seemed like such a lovely lady. I have two sons myself similar ages to Chandler and Mitchell and even the thought of them raising their voice to me is hard to imagine but to shoot me dead and chop me up for absolutely no reason at all is just beyond comprehension! Humans are such complex creatures, you hear peoples stories from their childhoods of them being badly treated mentally, physically and even sexually by their mum or dad yet they still love them etc and then you have this monster who could do this to two innocent people then continue playing video games! 😮 It’s truly horrific.

[@tianna1116]

You should watch Jodi arias’ trial, also riveting

[@JoyDavidson]

I watch his interrogation almost daily. It's so fucking strange. Grant Amato and Cheyenne can't remember her name. She killed her kid and dad and reported them missing. Then was arrested 2 hours later 😂

[@platedlizard]

him and Joel Guy Richie who also murdered and dismembered his parents... those two cases were horrible. in both cases the parents seemed like really good people, there was no good reason to do that.

[@ryanb7II]

The noon 30 thing wasn't a joke. He's trying to play up his concussion. Everything in this interview is about him covering his tracks, and playing up his lies.

[@kellyegan9824]

Definitely trying to use his fake head injury

[@SpecialBlanket]

I agree

[@MsSimpleMovies]

Maybe. But convert narcissists are often trying to be cutesy. Trying to be childlike and precious. If he had just said, "Oh, I meant 12:30," and had given a confused look, I'd say he was playing up his BS concussion story. He was trying to be cute and playful. It's one of the most nauseating things about a "man" with CN. They think this elicits caretaking. I've experienced it, and I call the person out on it.

[@mrwilliamwonder]

@@MsSimpleMovies You are supposed to think he's so cute, you must love him.

[@subrosa4792]

I’m guilty of saying “noon thirty” but I don’t want to come off like Chandler, so I guess I should not say “noon thirty” anymore.

[@frynotfray]

Bro this channel is excellent. I love your analysis and really learn a lot.

[@ohheymitch1621]

Thank you for covering this. I always like your insight and opinion on true crime content. Keep it up!!

[@bthomson]

Me too.

[@MollieNewhouse]

I am a psychologist and very much enjoy your thorough and thoughtful analyses of the individuals you choose to cover. One request would be for you to do a video covering John Hinckley.

[@mrwilliamwonder]

I'm not a psychologist, however, I bet I know more than you on every subject.

[@SD0224]

He seems like he was very much completely addicted to his video games and was equally terrified of having to face the music of lying to his parents and actually finish school and get a job .

[@cleanserene6330]

So similar to Grant Amato, and Joel Guy.

[@lydibug51]

Glad i found your Chanel, Andrew. My mom suffers from schizoaffective disorder but used to be called manic depression bipolar disorder with schizophrenia. My mom also suffers from paranoid delusions. But she can be the nicest person that you ever wanted to be around best mom wife sister friend, but three months out of the year she becomes what I called the monster that exhibits all those signs. And the rest of the year she is nice and sweet and gentle and nurturing and caring which is a such a contrast to what her Darkseid is and so I have learned to understand people that suffer from these types of illnesses not from what about you're telling me about Chandler. I really like that you are trying to show us how he could commit the crime because that was always question in my head I'm not interested in the aftermath I'm always interested in what makes people choose to murder their families. So thank you again

[@97119angela]

Thank you for your insight into these conditions. I sense that you don’t blame them for their illnesses which is heroic from my point of view.

[@oOoBubblesoOoOo]

Sin. Sin causes people to murder.

[@DeathSpellXVI]

He was treated like a special child and kept acting like a special child until adulthood and until everything fell apart.

[@benjaminperez1149]

His friends knew exactly who he was: a liar and a thief. The cop comments how hot it’s been so hot that week and he is running around the neighborhood in jeans, tennies, shirt, sweatshirt and a hat. He constantly makes little digs at his father. He wearing a hoodie from high school glory days and it says boys. He also called the couches he slept on a couch fort. 😮 I saw this on another show.

[@NickyBlue99]

He probably is stanky. Plus he is such a cool dude!

[@trishemerald2487]

Excellent, as usual, Dr. van der Vaart. As an aside, how could anyone think this guy was an elite scuba diver, or any sort of athlete, for that matter?

[@lesliekupchanko5001]

More like a slug or a sloth.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Or an engineer

[@derp195]

I'm a scuba diver, and I look like I've never been out of the house lol

[@joycemarie9702]

Exactly!!! He is the epitome of a skinny ,slimy slug 🐌 He was surrounded by hardworking, successful, talented people! I have a feeling Covid was a Godsend for him…. He was thrilled that everything shut down….it helped him hide for so long. He never would have been able to fool anyone if Covid hadn’t happened. As soon as things started getting back to normal he knew time as up!

[@Teenywing]

When total strangers refer to you by name- run.

[@leighanne3266]

Chandler has one of the flattest voices and affects I've seen in a while.

[@TheMary0831]

I've read/seen that the emotionless, flat voice is an affectation of psychopathy.

[@doctorposting]

@@TheMary0831it’s seen in a lot of disorders but yes it can be

[@ErinJeanette]

Except when he perks up and acts normal to know his rights like a search warrant being needed. He's talking like this on purpose to seem concussed.

[@Jaelismyhomegirl]

And dead eyes. I try not to judge by superficial things (a lot of autistic people have flat affect and difficulty with facial expressions, but that doesn’t mean they are bad people), but CH is one creepy looking dude.

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

Sounds like he's comfortably high on opiates to me lol

[@Simone79126]

It always amazes me to see that someone could lie that many times and think that nobody is never going to see through it! I enjoyed all the work you have put on KZbin that I have listened to, this one as well. Thank you!

[@mariapilarme]

That’s the thing that intrigued me the most. Do they really think they are smarter than everyone else that nobody it’s going to figure it out?

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

@@mariapilarmeno one calls them out and they start to believe their own hype and get lost in the sauce.

[@날Gnarleigh리]

It worked for his parents many years… probably reason why he thinks so low of his own father. What a sad excuse of a human being

[@MarloweDash]

It is intriguing to watch CH evade and mentally adjust to what is happening in the real world around him. The moment when the cops rapidly change tone and all of a sudden he realizes the party has changed (18:40:46 in the orig interrogation video)... I was hoping you would talk about that really brief moment just before he is arrested. Watching his face was fascinating to me. Later at sentencing he appealed to anyone to help him with his case - it seems that he is still in the fantasy. Can covert narcissists ever become self aware?

[@GiftedGaz78]

My daughter married a narcissist, it took 5 years to realise how violent he had been to her and my grand children after she confessed to me and her mother. I immediately moved her and my grand children into my house, then me and my 2 brothers gave him the beating of his life. She was that scared of him that it took 5 years to tell me. I felt so guilty that we didn’t see the signs, they are so good at keeping people under their control with their manipulation. All I could think was, what would she have done if she had no support network? I honestly think that he would have killed her.

[@BartendressTwin]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@zenscout]

He carries his neediness ...never seen or herd someone this obvious. As with your other videos, will view multiple times. TY

[@scottmatznick3140]

Your videos are stellar, and your knowledge is really impressive. I've learned a lot from you just in the last month or less

[@klsb75]

It never ceases to make me so mad that he is constantly trying to convey that his dad was some sort of a controlling jerk and he and his mom were subservient to Bart. Ugh.

[@cathare4909]

Yeah anyone with a parenting relationship like that wouldn't ask their mothet for soda in the manner he did.

[@oswaldomayberry9260]

Yeah saying Dad “never cooks” and how he’d go into a rage if dinner wasn’t ready for him. Even IF we take all that to be true, burning your parents’ body parts is NOT the solution

[@reelmermaid8844]

Agreed. The digs at the parents, but Dad especially are hard to hear. I also think he was very jealous of his brother Mitchell, who was doing so much better in life. When Mitchell was diagnosed with Diabetes shortly before the murder of the parents, Chandler gave him a bullet that said "Get Well" on it and tried to make it seem like it would be funny because they both liked first person shooter games....however, I think it was a mask slip. I wonder if Mitchell had been at the house, would Chandler have killed him to...

[@ad6417]

He was describing himself.

[@rebel4466]

Some Tarkov knowledge: It's round based and you risk every gear item you take into a round. You can hunt other players and non-player-characters (NPCs/bots) and find items, guns, keys, whatever. What makes it interesting is the constant adrenaline output. You could find the best item in the game but still lose it on your way to the exit. You could take gear with you that makes you better than others, but lose it because someone is sitting in a bush, waiting for people to come by. There are also quests to do within the rounds. If you die, you can lose some progress you made. It's a very love hate relationship most people have with the games. The highs are very high, the lows are very low. I personally couldn't get addicted to playing it, but those triggers are very different for many people. I didn't go very in depth, but just wanted to give viewers a rough idea.

[@shouygui4955]

Its in the shed on customs, second task in the game.

[@paulrevereIV]

Even if life was “a game”…. Lying about having a job/ degree, lying about a tbi, and then murdering your caretakers for calling you out on it seems like a great way to loose the game.

[@yobro4489]

😂 I got the greatest giggle when I saw the sponsored video was Solar Panels when he lied about getting a solar energy degree

[@amytaylor555]

I think he was trying to explain the Smokey smell in the house when he brings up the Green Egg.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Yes. Everything he's saying is world- building for Blamelessland.

[@gigiravel]

17:46 He was attempting to burn his parents with his fireplace….i think that is where he was going, he was giving excuses for the smell of the burning corpses …what a psychopath 😳

[@Mara0369]

he brought up that smokey smell to cover up when he was roasting his parents

[@SusanHilf]

Thanks!

[@PoemJunkie]

The sidebar about the green egg was to explain away smoke smell in the house…when he attempted to burn the bodies and introduced oxygen to the fireplace with a fan to try to get it to burn hotter.

[@sparkiki]

I'd say he depends (or depended) on his girlfriend for many things - money, social ques, and even a motivator of sorts. And the girlfriend served as a veil between boy living at home vs sexually active adult. I really enjoy your presentations. -Houston, Texas ❤

[@DonnaLena1]

Good analysis of his relationship with Cat

[@2-pistols]

Now he's a hopefully non willing sexually active inmate

[@j4d7s8]

They one line I remember is he asked Cat the borrow $5 for soda and chips. Like he was THAT broke. She drove everywhere too.

[@2-pistols]

@j4d7s8 he was a needy lil fuck wasn't he?

[@Lizzie-h3j]

​@j4d7s8 I had a boyfriend who tried that the last time we went away he literally ran out a shop when it came time to pay for OUR food so I left him there and he was about 5 hours from where he lived. He had enough £££ to get home the mofo. I don't expect the man to pay for me but I expect things to be split down the middle. Cat was waaaay to nice to this murdering man child.

[@d.carter]

I always wait to watch your videos. They are fascinating. It's horrible what this guy did.

[@sleuththewild]

They brought Chandler to the interrogation in the squad car with bars on the windows-I guess they were trying to make him super nervous. The video of the squad car ride are at Rottweiler Investigations.

[@joycemarie9702]

I loved watching CH sitting in the back of the police car….panicking….it was perfect! His last ride as a free man.

[@RoastedToasted0]

Hey Doc, just stopping by, beautiful hair sir, I dig it. Great video too

[@alwaysflushinpublic]

He was offered a job at SpaceX. They needed a waif to walk around the parking lot scraping bugs off of Tesla's. From arrested development to arrested.

[@robert9461]

COVID was rampant when Chaz said he was working for the insurance company. Wouldn’t COVID have been enough reason to be unemployed? He just didn’t know how to tell the truth.

[@jenstale]

Kind of obsessed with this case - I’ve watched a interview a “few” time before- but you analyzed it really great points

[@wrmlm37]

I love how he casually describes a tempered fireplace glass exploding to the extent that his dog has glass imbedded in it's fur. Never, ever could this drip, have become something like an engineer or IT specialist. His folks must have felt terrible that their 2nd child turned out this way. They knew he was lying before their murders. I am sorry to his older brother and family. I believe his parents did their best, did a good job and this was a curveball.

[@JennWatson]

Great analysis! Chandler is so pathetic!!! I love your show! ❤

[@2-pistols]

I think when the female detective said "somethings happened", it wasnt to plant a seed in chandlers mind, it was an unintentinal slipup on her part. She was talking to other detectives and giving them an update but quickly shit it down before chandler got any more info. Hes always fishing for info

[@chikacherrycola9189]

Thanks!

[@AndPsych]

Thanks again for your support

[@kaydee4296]

Right when that boy said he made Shrimp-LESS Scampi...I KNEW he did it! That's between him and "Ole Sparky" as far as I'm concerned...🍤

[@ryanfreeborn4252]

I've never seen skinnier legs on a man. This kid has not a clue what "work" is. Coddled and spoiled. The interrogation of his girlfriend is weird. She's comes off very smart, yet unrealistically oblivious. This newer generation are...different.

[@johnkeating4221]

She is an honest sincere young lady and I can only wish her well.

[@byebyefeather]

I wouldn't say these people are representative of a generation 😅

[@fazzolarijames]

She’s definitely not smart. Kind though.

[@litneyloxan]

They represent themselves. Not an entire generation just like Manson represented himself and not his generation. And many other heinous murderers of the old days and even long before that do not represent theirs.

[@mrwilliamwonder]

@@litneyloxan Manson never killed anybody. Big difference.

[@siddthekid5046]

Such a wild story. Can you do a video on Kouri Richins?

[@margaretglaser6227]

he looks so calm what horrors

[@lesliekupchanko5001]

Psychopaths very often have a natural flat affect. Dr John also explains that they can sit completely still. Look at Chad Daybell's court case for example. Ted Bundy was cool as a cucumber as well.

[@mandy59227]

I think he may have mentioned about the green egg being smoky to help create a storyline/ reason for the smoky smell....which was not caused by a green egg !

[@MichBelgik]

With the green egg comment he refers back to 'as i told the other officer', so i believe he's just trying to gather his thoughts and remember what exactly he told that other officer - it's hard to remember when you lie so much... Good work as usual, thank you.

[@ceeveekaye]

New subscriber, and thank you so much for talking about vulnerable narcissists. I've got so many stories to tell, I don't know whether to start a blog or write a book. It's an insane mix of self loathing, indignance, never-ending rage, and martyrdom. Exhausting. As much as I've looked into it, I still don't understand it. Thanks for this and for all of your content.

[@jjetsam3]

This sh*t is terrifying. I bet his parents never saw it coming. You can’t tell if your kids (or husband) are gonna flip into homicidal maniacs some day.

[@SamWhittman]

Or wife

[@Jaelismyhomegirl]

The fact that he thought he wouldn’t get caught is astounding to me-what did he think would happen? They’d look for his parents for couple weeks, then say “eh, fuck it. We tried. Enjoy all of their stuff, kid!”

[@jeanninejohnson6460]

Been obsessed with this case. LOVE your take on it ❤

[@janburrows128]

He is so uninformed about basically everything to the point the police marandize him and he doesn’t seem to even put 2 and 2 together and realize he’s already under arrest. Really shows how little he knows

[@jugo1944]

He's pretending he has cognitive problems

[@jolesliewhitten6545]

I sadly married a much older man who was a Covert Narcissist. He rarely lied but totally abused me verbally , emotionally, and sometimes physically. Thankfully I ran for safety after 20 years.

[@Percocet_6.2]

Lol

[@jolesliewhitten6545]

@@Percocet_6.2 , why is escaping ABUSE amusing?

[@jayburden5814]

Unless he was diagnosed by an actually medical professional, then you have no idea what he was.. for all we know he goes around telling everyone that you were a narcissistic person that ruined his life?? There's two sides to every story

[@NickyBlue99]

​@@jayburden5814 Didn't you know that everyone is narcissist these days?

[@tgs5725]

He was diagnosed by a medical professional?

[@NoUseForAName06]

I habe to agree about the point that there is some element of arrested development in this case. I always had a vivid imagination and a big affinity towards games and media. Especially RPG or Science Fiction stories. I remeber sitting in the car with my parents driving and almost getting completely lost in thinking about playing and coming up with my own stories. But like you said, at some point you just kinda cut the umbilical cord and face the fact that these are games and daydreaming about them won't help you deal with the issues you face in the real world. It's like you said. The real world is real. I guess Chandler never go there.

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

I hope the host can shed more light on pathological lying and why certain people, many murderers especially, are so drawn to indulging in it. Lying causes so much chaos in the brain, is uncomfortable, and instigates myriad complications in one’s life. Why would someone consistently choose to spout out greater and greater, more unbelievable lies? Is it simply a means to an end? Wish fulfillment? Easier to do if you're somewhat sociopathic or psychopathic to begin with? It boggles my mind. ETA: just saw this might be addressed and expounded upon in the Jodi Arias video on this channel… can’t wait to watch!

[@Soffity]

Just found your channel, very interesting comments. Thanks. I keep looking at Chandlers hands and thinking of the ghastly things those hands did. I have no idea what his girlfriend saw in him. He seems very boring, manipulative and of course a cold blooded murderer. He didn’t even say “please” when he asked his mum to bring him home a cold drink. He now has the rest of his life in prison to think about if what he did was worth it.

[@12from121]

Chandler and Chris Watts are so similar

[@dinosaursneverexisted8985]

I had a best friend of 10+ years who was a covert narcissist who went completely undetected until I did my own postmortem on the friendship after it was over. I didn't even know what a covert narcissist was until after the friendship ended. We kept getting into these ridiculous, absurd arguments that he would often start out of nowhere. He was successful in making me believe I had an equal role in the arguments starting, however in reality he started them because I was not giving him enough narcissistic supply, or because I unwittingly caused a narcissistic injury. For example, he once blew up on me because I quizzed him on a movie and he got the answer wrong. I'm not kidding.

[@MarianaVHernandez]

HOW can you go to those lengths just not to work? Like that’s literally insane. Next level parasitic behavior.

[@divinadecosio]

Hi Andrew, your channel is very educative, I really like the way you explained and lead us to understand the reasons behind the actions.

[@jamesduke9809]

Such a tragic case. This has been a great learning tool, thank you Dr. Vaart for all the detailed review. 👍

[@lydibug51]

I really like your take on him. I've watched many interrogations, criminal trials, including his and what I found was that when people are being deceptive, the body language changes quite a bit.

[@FirstThief]

Your analyses make such inexplicable cases so easy to understand, I always wondered why he acted the way he did. Thanks for making these videos, they are really informative and interesting!

[@Broooookie269]

He reminds me soooo much of my ex bf (who pushed me down a flight of stairs & insisted i was self harming) it is truly unsettling

[@LovedByDax]

If we could stage a convo between Chandler and Chris Watts we would get a replacement for general anesthetic

[@my_name_is_rhyme]

19:39 i think tht noon thirty correction thing was him thinking he has to be precise to the investigator. Like he is making sure they like him, bc he's giving precise info

[@kevinac4397]

I struggle to understand a couple things with this case. One, why would this person not consider suicide instead of murder? Do his parents not deserve life in his eyes? Are others worthy? Two, and this may explain the previous question, how was he so ignorant of his stupidity and inability to comprehend the futility of getting away with murder? He has no clue how stupid he actually is, and I struggle to understand how he got to this point. He was clearly clever enough to ruse his parents, but the whole world? His cluelessness and naïveté is downright puzzling. He apparently was confident phones could not be pinged for location, as a neighbor brought it up to him before the arrest. Probably should have taken those IT classes seriously. Anyway, fascinating read of this story.

[@freyashipley6556]

Yes! I wonder what he thought was going to happen when it became clear that his parents had disappeared. Did he expect everyone to just shrug? Did he imagine that he'd be free to sell the house and move to Bali?

[@internetshortscomp5810]

why would he choose suicide? he went depressed. we had a impulse to cover a giant gaping lie that grew to a murder

[@kevinac4397]

@@internetshortscomp5810 Nah. of course he could have been depressed. Failing out of college and doing nothing but gaming all day, so scared to face the shame and disappointment of his situation that he violently murders his loving family? Perhaps he could have been in denial about his mental health, but impulsiveness doesn’t get twisted to such an extent by being happy and at peace.

[@날Gnarleigh리]

At the end of the day, they all seem to have this grandiose belief (hopeful delusion) where they truly convince themselves they wont suffer from consequences… it’s so dense 😂

[@MattHeslington]

Cheers. Some very interesting points I'd not seen made before on one of the most covered TC cases

[@GradKat]

I would have thought he was a psychopath rather than a narcissist.

[@ad6417]

Psychopath would have had fearless dominance and more risk-taking behavior.

[@날Gnarleigh리]

He defo botj

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

There can be overlap big homie. if someone is clinically antisocial, they will almost certainly have narcissistic traits as well.

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

​@@ad6417it's definitely psychopathic to do what he did lol

[@jimsworthow531]

Friend; do an analysis on his police car ride to this interview; I love it; it has video and audio; a lot to unpack. at one point, he says out loud, "what is going on?" it is a wonderful last free ride video and chandler just can't put his finger on what is happening.

[@bethscott4330]

You’re riveting and extremely interesting in your analysis

[@dissolvingduality8496]

Enjoying your analysis and discussion on these cases. Subscribed. Thank you!

[@melissanichilo8176]

This channel is very informative. Great content.

[@schlooonginator1227]

The moments leading up to this interview were very interesting. Obviously, he was very concerned about being caught so was conscious of how the police behaved. The suddenness with which a detective asked him to get in the car and get interviewed put him on high alert as did the fact his phone was taken as per policy and that his gf was taken in a seperated car. He also noticed a surge in police presence at his home as well as them entering the property without asking as had happened previously. I think he was suspicious but at the same time desperately hoping he was just paranoid. I tend to think people will choose to believe in the positive just as a natural defense against anxiety. In the police car on the way to the station, he misheard the cop radio suspect as opposed to subject that was actually said,and directly challenged the cop at which point the cop corrects him with subject. The cop driving him plays dumb, like he is just the driver and knows nothing. Chandler looks nervous most of the ride trying to figure out what's going on. You can tell at the beginning of the interview he is testing these police by directly asking them about his observations but I think they did a good job of making him think this was just working out details, by the middle of the interview I think Chandler really thought it was what they said. By doing this, they now could arrest him for misleading statements, interference with an investigation without having to arrest him for the murders which starts a clock as to how things proceed..

[@TheJoshuamooney]

His father was “grilling”-indeed he was; his body was grilling in the fireplace. Now Chandler’s being “grilled” by the police, trying not to get “burned” in a less literal way than he burned his own dad. Paging Dr. Freud!

[@Rainybones]

Doctor, I am glad to see you less stressed out in this video compared to Lucy Letby's. Thank you for doing this. You are extremely helpful!

[@dinosaursneverexisted8985]

Please do more interrogation analysis it’s my favorite content you do. I like seeing an actual expert psychiatrist break things down first hand

[@sammidizzle5599]

31:06 yup!! And what you’re describing, sort of reminds me of what O.J. Simpson used to do in his interviews. He would over share minute details and go off on tangents, almost to sound more, I dunno, “jovial”…Imo, he was probably hoping that it would disarm and then throw people off…like, his audience was gonna be thinking, “🤔well, he COULDN’T have committed a double homicide…because LOOK at how JOLLY he seems!! He wouldn’t be worrying about such little, minor details were hee, actually, guilty!😇😇😇”

[@MichelleEBelle-qi8dt]

You’re so fantastic.

[@38mattty]

something you never want to hear in a police interview,,,,,,''describe gushing''

[@KEON-eb8iv]

"I did not have any shrimp so I made Shrimpless Scampi." - Chandler Halderson.

[@Bigger-Than-Jesus]

im not a high paid chef or anything, but wouldn't that be just butter and white wine?

[@oisinquinn9469]

The smokey grill was to cover up of the burning of the bodies