Andre Galvao x Clark Gracie: 2012 Abu Dhabi Trials (San Diego)

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Knockem or Lockem

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@wannabehendrix
@wannabehendrix 11 жыл бұрын
Two masters at work here. I cannot even fathom the thought processes between these two. Thank you for posting.
@RazeenRed
@RazeenRed Жыл бұрын
First time I’ve watched a full Clark match and I’m impressed with the styles
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 жыл бұрын
Galvao and Clark are both great athletes and very respectable people. This was a competition not a dinner party.
@sylverg5323
@sylverg5323 10 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people coming up with the excuse that it was a "judo trip". like hell it was. Find me a judo match where a competitor does a "trip" like this one. You could get disqualified for it! This was a kick. He knows it, his opponent knows it, the crowd knows it. Perhaps you should just call what it is instead of trying to make excuses for him.
@luizmilky9687
@luizmilky9687 10 жыл бұрын
Wrong pal... technically it was a judo trip, doesn't matter if he did carried by anger and did it agressively.... competitive jiu jitsu is agressive... contact sport... need balls and stomach to compete at this level both are professional, and sure didn't take it personally by the way, i would be pissed as well if someone crossed a leg on my knee just like clark did to galvão, right before the "kick"... those guys have injuries to their bones... his emotion was justified peace
@willgoat7270
@willgoat7270 7 жыл бұрын
+Luiz Milky Exactly, Kawasaki sets up his yoko tomoe nage with the exact "kick".
@Kinosis79
@Kinosis79 2 жыл бұрын
Brazilians will excuse their boy no matter what he does. He got owned by Gordon this weekend and had a laundry list of excuses as always.
@felipeguaraciaba
@felipeguaraciaba 12 жыл бұрын
nenhuma punição pelo chute? no negative points or disqualification for the kick?
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 жыл бұрын
I know Andre and Clark personally... They are both San Diego guys and have a lot of respect for one another. This was nothing more than emotion. Andre is a really good person and I'm sure Clark would agree.
@adrianmonk7878
@adrianmonk7878 9 жыл бұрын
I love how the ref just ragdoll pulls'em at the end
@paulfarley9055
@paulfarley9055 5 жыл бұрын
How many points for the kick....? Asking for a non Brazilian ibjjf competitor ....
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 12 жыл бұрын
It happened to three guys I train with this year, not even doing leg locks, and I was one of them. Torn ACL and four months without jiu-jitsu... just competed at World's for the first time in nine months. When you train hard sometimes it just happens.
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 жыл бұрын
No problem brother. Check out the Pan Ams highlight I put together... you'll see some of his submissions... I'll have a bunch from Worlds once that highlight is done too.
@rafa5150
@rafa5150 12 жыл бұрын
@kermitthefrayer Because this is a sport and as such it has rules. Given the fact that this sport entails intense physical contact, several rules are put into place to avoid people from getting hurt. Reaping the knee has a high probability of injuring the opponents knee and causing long term damage; thus, it is not allowed. Just watch some of Palhares' UFC fights and you'll get an idea of what could take place (although in the latter case, its heel hooks, not knee reaping).
@Theerhino36
@Theerhino36 12 жыл бұрын
Leg kicks are legal now!?!
@deadlypalms
@deadlypalms 11 жыл бұрын
Surprised Andre Galvao has gotten as far as he has with such attitude. So much for the 'gentle art'.
@Ground_Speed
@Ground_Speed 12 жыл бұрын
its just the rule, no slam in bjj or grappling (depending which grappling event you enter). i think slaming someone can hurt him badly, guy can even end up in a wheelchair or get paralysing if you got hit on the head or ur spine can be severely damaged. In BJJ they consider this option that is why no slam in this sport.
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 12 жыл бұрын
well put
@georgereinhardt7481
@georgereinhardt7481 12 жыл бұрын
You can't reap the persons knee...the problem is any type of leg attack, there is VERY little time to tap before you get seriously hurt. That's why in most tourneys, leg locks of any kind are illegal.
@JujuiLuv
@JujuiLuv 12 жыл бұрын
is anyone checking to see if the size on these kimonos are even legal
@mflsm
@mflsm 12 жыл бұрын
@kermitthefrayer you are watching a competition within a Sport, not a street fight. One has rules, belts and weight classes the other does not. Think first, then comment...
@TopControlBJJ
@TopControlBJJ 12 жыл бұрын
I would disagree slightly and say that heel hooks provide very little time to attack but achillies locks and even toe holds are no more dangerous than other, upper body submissions.
@26gutshot
@26gutshot 12 жыл бұрын
ok then what kind of kick was it? It was a sweeping motion using the inside of his foot. I'm not a big karate guy but I don't know too many kicks like that. And Clark didn't know anything was wrong. He thought Galvao was disengaging and he got up and was trying to take him down. Not to mention they dapped hands right after that, so he must of not been to upset.
@photojoe1989
@photojoe1989 12 жыл бұрын
@kermitthefrayer Echoing what KnockemOrLockem said, Reaping the Knee = torn ACL or MCL. In some cases this could mean no BJJ for the rest of one's life.
@Chalito5
@Chalito5 12 жыл бұрын
The knee reap rule is out of date. I believe if you're a blackbelt you should be allowed to attack the knee using the reap. It's a combat sport, just as bad injuries can be sustained by an armbar or falling wrong on your knee.
@Combatinho
@Combatinho 11 жыл бұрын
Clark is on the move- he improves every competition.
@leonardoabade3387
@leonardoabade3387 9 жыл бұрын
Chute ridículo, digno de desclassificação.
@kermitthefrayer
@kermitthefrayer 12 жыл бұрын
They are both black belt right?!?! Black belts should have the skills to defend any attack correct? Then why is it illegal if my leg passes your hip in x y or z position?
@pmaliner
@pmaliner 11 жыл бұрын
I love both of these guys.
@carloshenriquesantos6985
@carloshenriquesantos6985 12 жыл бұрын
alguém pode me explicar pq o André ficou irritado? não entendi nada
@FartJokeResearchLabs
@FartJokeResearchLabs 12 жыл бұрын
Footsweeps occur when your foot stays on the ground through the movement, hence the word SWEEP. That was an inside leg kick disguised as a foot sweep because Galvao gets dirty like that. Footsweeps tend not to sound like a bat hitting a heavybag.
@1981switch
@1981switch 12 жыл бұрын
Sick match Galvao is the man!!!
@DOMDZ90911
@DOMDZ90911 12 жыл бұрын
leg locks are not illegal. they're just dangerous. and nobody wants to be sidelined for a year the same in any sport.
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 жыл бұрын
Galvao finishes the majority of his opponents... he was collecting limbs and necks all day at Pan Ams and Worlds this year... but when you get to the final rounds and face opponents like Clark it's difficult to get the submission.
@Subwrestler1
@Subwrestler1 12 жыл бұрын
its also illegal to slam but in a street fight their are slams . also in olympic wrestling their are slams why not in bbj or grappling
@morgchem
@morgchem 12 жыл бұрын
Was it a heel hook attempt that agitated Galvao? Pretty unsportsmanlike especially from such a big Jiu Jitsu player.
@iamjason9240
@iamjason9240 12 жыл бұрын
maybe i should try some leg kicks at bjj tournament now.
@japtbjj21
@japtbjj21 12 жыл бұрын
Just so u know when wearing a gi you have to worry about 100 more sweep possibilities and not to mention the choke options, plus you can't just sweat yourself out of a position. Anyway the best grapplers in the world are gi practitioners so...
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 жыл бұрын
Judo 2 years, Jiu Jitsu 13 years. IN BRAZIL. Yeah, while its normal to lose timing, due to the circumstance he did it, @shahmirdh made a good point, keyboard expert.
@thaibottie
@thaibottie 12 жыл бұрын
Andre is the man!
@taffarelsilva542
@taffarelsilva542 10 жыл бұрын
Galvão dominando!
@zukaBJJ
@zukaBJJ 12 жыл бұрын
@sqbronco1 I thought it was more Galvao's fault? because he was in a bear trap but he turned in to make it illegal. Weird that he would get mad like that.
@gregorywilliams4751
@gregorywilliams4751 7 жыл бұрын
I guess if knee reaps are legal then kicks should be as well
@SadaParkour
@SadaParkour 11 жыл бұрын
He did !
@furiabjj
@furiabjj 12 жыл бұрын
O Andre e muito mais experiente q o Clarck, aquele chute foi so pra dizer: vc ainda tem muito q aprender. Respeitando as abilidades do Clarck e claro! Andre has a lot more experience that Clarck, that kick was just to say: Brother u have a lot more to learn. Respecting Clarck skills of course..
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 жыл бұрын
Thats an interesting point of view... i neve though about that.
@ElephantRage
@ElephantRage 9 жыл бұрын
if you play it in slo-mo you see it's a sweep and not a kick since he lands on ryan's leg with his instep and not with the shit or top of the foot. It was indeed a nasty one, out of anger but not worth a DQ imho. I use foot sweep a lot from the the single leg and quite often people complain: had they done dome kickboxing they would be able to tell the difference it feels when you get actually shin kicked....
@todd.orourke
@todd.orourke 8 жыл бұрын
+ElephantRage Who the hell is "Ryan?"
@saltyseaweed
@saltyseaweed 12 жыл бұрын
No one has the skills to defend absolutely any attack. We are all humans, after all.
@japtbjj21
@japtbjj21 12 жыл бұрын
Touche sir
@ribbedtr0jan
@ribbedtr0jan 12 жыл бұрын
San Diego has some awesome BJJ with Galvao, Clark Gracie, and Xande and Saulo Ribeiro. Not to mention Blackhouse and Fabio Santos.
@26gutshot
@26gutshot 12 жыл бұрын
Galvao wasn't "kicking" Clark he was trying to Judo trip him as Clark was advancing. I didn't see any disrespect. They got up and Clark was coming at him. I think some mis communication, yes. Galvao was trying to take him down.
@tatumirin
@tatumirin 12 жыл бұрын
o que será q tinha acontecido se ele tivesse chutado o Ryan?
@xAristaicx
@xAristaicx 12 жыл бұрын
sometimes we just don't control our anger. It happens sometimes you know.
@jamiegee123
@jamiegee123 12 жыл бұрын
andre is a badass
@gontsimone
@gontsimone 10 жыл бұрын
Dois monstros! Mas o Galvão é foda demais hehe
@drseth00789
@drseth00789 11 жыл бұрын
so galvao defends the calf slicer by pulling clark's leg across his midesection so it looks like clark is reaping the knee. then he gets all pissy cuz the ref knows it's b.s. no wonder galvao is so popular
@wildcat31772
@wildcat31772 11 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. Was just curious. thanks for the answer :)
@mosesjiujitsu
@mosesjiujitsu 12 жыл бұрын
wow why are people hating on andre? wether he kicked him or aggressively tried to foot sweep him (which is what happened), he had the right to be pissed off cause clark was obviously reaping his knee...and to people who dont like the rule and say its stupid because people wont get injured or whatever, its still illegal and rules are rules....dont like it? then dont compete in or watch IBJJF tournaments, or dont bitch about it one. oss
@joaodocaminhao1022
@joaodocaminhao1022 11 жыл бұрын
this is a fight man, not a religion
@mikkiwilliams8930
@mikkiwilliams8930 8 жыл бұрын
I just seen a miss sweep by galavo
@dbartyzel
@dbartyzel 12 жыл бұрын
Right, and the building was will with Jiu jitsu guys that cant tell the difference? That was a kick given plausible deniability as a judo sweep.
@dbartyzel
@dbartyzel 12 жыл бұрын
Everyone can see it was a low round kick, or leg kick, but he did it in a way that it would look like foot sweep. Im not saying Clark was pissed, seems like he thought it was kinda funny, but Andre was obviously pissed about the knee reap.
@CandidoDF
@CandidoDF 11 жыл бұрын
agora ta sabendo.
@wildcat31772
@wildcat31772 11 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched much of Galvao. But does he play every match for points and not really go for submissions? He tried a collar choke for about 8 seconds but beyond that he didn't really try to finish Clark. Also, are you surprised he's got a crap attitude. Even at Metamorsis after he couldn't do anything to Ryron he bitched and bashed it cuz there weren't any points.
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 жыл бұрын
Tem data das fotos? Serio? Vlwww STALKER!!! Tu deve ta amarradao em mim mesmo, hein? Me pesquisando em todas as redes sociais... da like nas minhas fotos tbm! Boa sorte na sua carreira tbm expert-de-sei-la-onde-no-meio-do-deserto-que-fala-que-eh-barra-mas-a-barra-de-verdade-fica-a-1000-km-de-distancia HAHA!
@withoutlost
@withoutlost 12 жыл бұрын
Ja sou fa desse Clark Gracie,manda muito bem !!!
@SRTOCAIA
@SRTOCAIA 12 жыл бұрын
because twisting knee is illegal coup
@jiujitsurub
@jiujitsurub 12 жыл бұрын
because you people get hurt too much in tournaments before using these positions. they banned it...
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 жыл бұрын
thats what i thought!!!!!!!!! Guy has a pattern of losing it whenever the situation goes out of control for him.
@TissDiss
@TissDiss 8 жыл бұрын
Galvao would be easier for guys to beat if he wasn't full of steroids and every performance enhancing substance he can find.
@delarosaali82
@delarosaali82 12 жыл бұрын
The knee reap is too dangerous. But id like to see more sportsmanship on galvaos part.
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 10 жыл бұрын
Galvao was right pissed about the knee reap. Not the best reaction, but understandable.
@IamJacksColon4
@IamJacksColon4 10 жыл бұрын
illegal submission?
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 10 жыл бұрын
IamJacksColon4 Yeah, not so much a submission though, more of of a position/transition. Technically it's called "reaping the knee". It's usually an automatic DQ. It's really dangerous in gi where the extra friction makes it really difficult to escape before the pressure on the knee becomes injurious. See from @4:30 onward. Notice the pressure on Galvao's knee. He speaks up to the ref about it a couple times and Clark as well. Then he got pissed.
@christ1ian1mas
@christ1ian1mas 10 жыл бұрын
I guess it not really a reap, because clarks foot wasn't going past Andre's body. It was just tied up on his legs
@furiabjj
@furiabjj 12 жыл бұрын
Boaaa!!
@Thensolomonsaid
@Thensolomonsaid 12 жыл бұрын
Jumping into guard should be a point deduction.
@lorimullici
@lorimullici 12 жыл бұрын
O Clark tava pegando uma chave de joelho por fora, o que é proibido !, se ele estivesse com a perna por dentro (guarda 50-50) não teria problemas, o juíz teria que ter parado a luta, por isso o André Galvão ficou bravo.
@JiuDoRick
@JiuDoRick 11 жыл бұрын
black belts should be model citizens for the community
@jiujitero18
@jiujitero18 12 жыл бұрын
Falta de profissionalismo da parte do André Galvão. Admiro-me que seja um lutador renomado com essa atitude. ISSO NÃO É MUAY THAI !
@YUCAJIUJITSU
@YUCAJIUJITSU 12 жыл бұрын
Now we shoul train some muay thay to be ready just in case XD
@Otsego
@Otsego 11 жыл бұрын
Knee reaps are illegal. At least that kicked was thinly veiled as a legal trip.
@dimecanal
@dimecanal 6 жыл бұрын
i find clark mor technical and galvao more explosive
@vinniramos
@vinniramos 11 жыл бұрын
well he didn't ...
@machadorenard
@machadorenard 11 жыл бұрын
Nothing justifies the anti-ethical attitude of Galvao as a World Champion. There were children and families at the gym. This is not the message of JJ.
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 жыл бұрын
Pois eh, cara... so que eu comecei na Gracie Barra tambem. BARRA DA TIJUCA. La onde tudo comecou, na Olegario Maciel, onde sai do treino e vai tomar acai na praia. E nao essa coisa de Gracie Barra-Sei-La-Onde-No-Distrito-Federal-no-meio-do-deserto ;-) Gracie Barra tem em todo lugar agora, ne? Epoca que Carlinhos tava la, Roleta, Feitosa, Rolles, Igor... so fera. E eu toco piano tambem, obrigado por assistir meus videos. Da like nos videos depois de ver!
@luizmilky9687
@luizmilky9687 10 жыл бұрын
unsensibled: hold back your words... Galvão is a very emotional athele, but a very professional one, as well... the guy lives for that, it's his world... i'm sure he is a nice guy, but those are fighters... perhaps you should study more about BJJ and how it was in the begining, in Para, Rio .... both athletes deserve respect, not judges.... you guys are so cheerleaders, give me a break just enjoy the awesome fight and learn from it peace
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 жыл бұрын
Nao esqueci nao... e tenho bem mais que 15 anos de artes marciais e sou mais velho do que voce pressupos (agora vai falar que eu to mentindo a idade tambem?). Mas, aqui no Rio de Janeiro, as pessoas tem vida social, tem trabalho, tem familia... de maneira que treinam, param, voltam... ou por acaso pra voce todo mundo que comeca a treinar tem que faze-lo ate morrer ininterruptamente? E ninguem aqui tambem disse em querer parecer fodao, fodao eh o Roger, que ganhou 10 mundiais...
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 12 жыл бұрын
@kermitthefrayer Because we want to continue watching these guys fight and reaping the knee can put you out for 6-12 months...
@dougbit
@dougbit 11 жыл бұрын
A posição caiu naquela cruzada por acaso, num giro que eles foram dar. O Gracie já estava com a perna fechando o triangulo quando o André reclamou. Nem tinha pq ficar tão puto daquele jeito
@olivachumbo
@olivachumbo 12 жыл бұрын
nervosinho André.
@drseth00789
@drseth00789 11 жыл бұрын
i'm sorry, if your method of argument is to play stupid, then i don't have anything else to offer
@drseth00789
@drseth00789 11 жыл бұрын
the key word is "should". he didn't say they have to. so to rephrase, you don't think black belts should exhibit wisdom and moral fiber? they shouldn't be thinking of their young students who pay their bills and aspire to be like them? they should act petty and insecure?
@Naturobiose
@Naturobiose 12 жыл бұрын
O Clark cruzou para dentro, e o Andre reclamou, e fez aquele papelão. O pior de tudo foi a falta de pulso do Juiz, se isso acontece a 10 ou 15 anos atras a pancadaria seria generalizada.
@brunovoxxx
@brunovoxxx 11 жыл бұрын
num sabia que vale chutar canela.
@jiujitsulover1
@jiujitsulover1 11 жыл бұрын
Man i used to have alot of respect for galvao it would appear he always throws his toys Out of the Pram when things arent going his way or makes a comment that males him look like a spoilt child
@dlogic22
@dlogic22 12 жыл бұрын
In Clarks defense everytime i've had knee reaping explained to me, it is when the foot cross the hip and the leg is all the way across, technically i do not believe that was knee reaping that we saw. And also POOR sportsmanship to Galvao, SHAME on you as a black belt you need to have more class then that.
@Kinosis79
@Kinosis79 2 жыл бұрын
Andre hasn't changed at all. He was palm striking Gordon in their ADCC match.
@renatonakano2829
@renatonakano2829 5 жыл бұрын
Aí aí no q estamos presenciando ultimamente, em um futuro não distante, terão q colocar só árbitros digamos um pouco mais raiz, tipo ala Tanquinho, Marcos Ruas, para ver se pelo menos, uma vez na vida, veremos alguém ter peito de desclassificar um faixa preta de nome, galera ai na verdade ta mto artista!!!
@olivachumbo
@olivachumbo 12 жыл бұрын
Esse André tá levando tud oque é campeonato, mas eu não gosto do jiu-jitsu dele, pois é quadrado e de muita força. Não consigo enxergar técnica. O Clark perdeu, mas consegui ver mais fluência técnica. Mas as regras do jiu-jitsu de hoje é isso. Então, parabéns André.
@kanguesso
@kanguesso 12 жыл бұрын
Galvao acted like such an idiot kicking the guy in a BJJ match. There are ways to address an issue and ways not to.
@galho96
@galho96 12 жыл бұрын
Pra quem prestar atencao, vai ver que o Galvao perde o angulo e ele mesmo se poe na posicao de "reaping the knee". Se jogou no chao e pediu falta. Soh na malandragem, haha.. Fez a mesma coisa com o Toquinho no ADCC. Mas, eh isso ai, faz parte do show. Ja o chute, sao outros quinhentos..
@rodluvan1976
@rodluvan1976 8 жыл бұрын
clark sliced his knee, that's why he was angry
@naum321123
@naum321123 12 жыл бұрын
E se fosse o Valide colocando Royce para dormir. kkkkk
@georgereinhardt7481
@georgereinhardt7481 12 жыл бұрын
Don't even waste your time explaining to this person why it's illegal. They obviously have no idea of what they are doing and could happen.
@RVGENomini
@RVGENomini 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah you do, but you could also just grab the guys gi to hold on when you're being outclassed like Gracie did. It isn't entertaining.
@Johnykitu
@Johnykitu 12 жыл бұрын
Because this is a sport, and this position is the most likely to cause serious knee injury to the athlete, ending careers for nothing.
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