Andrea Botez vs Dina Belenkaya || MOGUL Chessboxing

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@hughtube5154
@hughtube5154 2 жыл бұрын
Since Agadmator did a detailed breakdown of the chess part, here's my summary of the boxing part: Round 1. Both fighters moved to the centre of the ring, Andrea bouncing forward in the orthodox stance (standing side-on, left glove forward, right hand back by the shoulder, ready to throw), Dina in the more upright, European stance (forearms either side of her head in a high guard). Andrea’s left jab scored, followed immediately by high hooks looking to get around Dina’s defence, landing blows on the Russian’s ears and cheekguards. Dina broke contact, escaping Andrea’s high energy combination punches by spinning out of the pocket, and then fought off the back foot, pumping out her jab to keep Andrea at distance. It worked; Andrea was kept at arm’s length, unable to gauge the distance, and when she tried the high energy combinations that had worked earlier she would find herself punching wide, high, or bending down at full extension to land body shots, which Dina evaded. It would prove to be Dina’s high point - while Andrea found early success head hunting in looping left and right crosses, Dina found most joy pouring her offence straight down the middle. But Dina couldn’t keep Andrea off her for long; Andrea’s energy and will kept her moving forward, so that when Dina forgot to jab, a sustained Andrea combination inside Dina’s guard rocked the Russian into full retreat, Andrea pursuing her relentlessly until Dina clinched to stop the onslaught. Tired, the Russian used both arms to fend off Andrea, not so much punching now but pushing the younger woman away, backing off and disengaging to eat time up until the bell sounded. The round ended just as Andrea unleashed another alternate hand combo that had Dina wobbling unsteadily on her feet. Round 2. Dina started the round by throwing out her jab, less successfully now because whatever force it had was lessened by being thrown while moving backwards and, because the trail hand would get pushed forward with the jab it meant Dina had no follow up punch and no defence. Andrea soon walked through that jab; a hellish Botez hayemaker sent Dina into full retreat and a swarming Andrea cut the ring off, re-engaging in several mini Alamos where Andrea’s superior punch output would rout Dina into conceding ground. Dishearteningly for Dina, whenever she did land Andrea would take it on the chin and keep moving forward. After one such right-left-right combination, Andrea forced a standing eight count. After that, Dina clinched, leaning on her opponent to slow her down, tying up the arms that had been winging in those fast, accurate hooks. Too, Dina adopted a more crouched stance, and the smaller woman presenting a smaller target behind her raised forearms seemed to momentarily slow Andrea’s offence. With twenty seconds to go Andrea mustered one last, sustained assault, an eight punch onslaught that had Dina slumped against the ropes but the bell rang before Andrea could land the knockout blow. Round 3 Credit to Dina’s corner, her trainer spent a LOT of time imparting instructions before the start of the round. Andrea’s corner man said a few words too, but not with the intensity that Dina’s trainer did. That strategy soon became apparent - Dina backing away out of arm’s reach so Andrea couldn’t easily engage. And whenever Andrea did connect with long straight jabs, Dina would already be moving backwards, taking the force out of it. But then Andrea cut the ring off, stepping inside Dina’s path to land a left hook to the top of the head that made Dina stumble, and Andrea’s follow up forced another standing eight count. When Andrea moved forward to re-engage, Dina moved sideways and back, circling the ring to stay out of harm’s way, throwing just enough punches (one) to not have the ref call the fight for Andrea. A clinch inside the final minute ate up the time, and when the ref broke them apart Dina took the time to breathe deep and back off. Needing a knockout in the next 40 seconds, Andrea caught a retreating Dina flush on the ear, leading to the second standing eight count. Apparently, this match had a three knockdown rule, so if Andrea could force a third standing eight count in the same round she would win on a TKO (technical knockout), and though she pressed ever forward, the referee stepped in twice to force the fighters apart, giving Dina the time needed to get to the end of the round and get back to the chessboard.
@alekhinesgun9997
@alekhinesgun9997 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the part where she forced the 3rd count, the ref started counting, and then the round ended so they for some reason didn’t count it as a 3rd standing count. Controversial to say the least
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good breakdown, almost as exciting as watching the match and really easy to read. One thing though a third count was called by the ref before the bell. Five stoppages and three 8 counts is definitely a TKO.
@JayVicky007
@JayVicky007 2 жыл бұрын
@Hugh Tube Thank you!
@sdot7786
@sdot7786 2 жыл бұрын
1:11 , :39 and :01 ( was the one where REF was why you on the ropes? I guess I'll count now) Forgot about the spinning backhand Andrea did to Dina in the 1st round
@sdot7786
@sdot7786 2 жыл бұрын
@@alekhinesgun9997 Didn't Andrea Run the Clock to get to Boxing because she was going to get checkmated? That Part*
@venkiteshvenki8510
@venkiteshvenki8510 2 жыл бұрын
I was seriously expecting "and it was in this position, they stopped playing chess and got back into boxing".
@suummiit7
@suummiit7 2 жыл бұрын
U won the internet today for me dear Sir
@Nopanop
@Nopanop 2 жыл бұрын
@@suummiit7 why
@davidkovacs5614
@davidkovacs5614 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nopanop You must be new to Agadmators Channel^^
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 2 жыл бұрын
It was at this position they dressed in bikinis and started fighting
@Nopanop
@Nopanop 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkovacs5614 no
@ST-nr1hm
@ST-nr1hm 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Andrea making it to Agad's channel before Alex lol
@TikTokery
@TikTokery 2 жыл бұрын
Ya lol andrea is shit at chess. At least alex is tough
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Bai_Su_Zhen
@Bai_Su_Zhen 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest it's just about which one takes the big L first 😂
@derekbaker4763
@derekbaker4763 2 жыл бұрын
Who?
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekbaker4763 ​ there are two individuals he’s mentioning so your “who?” comment makes minimal sense at best.
@OriginalThisAndThat
@OriginalThisAndThat 2 жыл бұрын
5:45 deep in to football mode, man.. 90min of boxing would be brutal. xD
@revenantronin8377
@revenantronin8377 2 жыл бұрын
lmao... he probably thought "90 seconds" but said minutes as a habit.
@fractal_mind562
@fractal_mind562 2 жыл бұрын
"I dont know if 1 inch is all that much of a difference, but it definitely means something" 😭🤣
@elartedepararte
@elartedepararte 2 жыл бұрын
Bragging rights
@worldalternate
@worldalternate 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed good statement 👍
@hauslarkhobhaiya9781
@hauslarkhobhaiya9781 2 жыл бұрын
That's what
@thegorn
@thegorn 2 жыл бұрын
we talking length or girth?
@t39an8r
@t39an8r 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegorn 4skin thickness
@lwalker8785
@lwalker8785 2 жыл бұрын
Dina got her ass kicked but still won the chess. Not surprised she missed mate in one, her brains must have been scrambled! Respect to both girls.
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 2 жыл бұрын
You just have to denominate them “girls”. Do you want to insert yer tiny winy weenah in onez a them!
@Scott-uz1cd
@Scott-uz1cd 2 жыл бұрын
did you see Aman KO Lawrence?
@DarkSideChess
@DarkSideChess 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scott-uz1cd That was epic. Aman has clearly played hockey before.
@Scott-uz1cd
@Scott-uz1cd 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkSideChess haha yeah don't mess with the Canadians they're all probably secretly boxers from their hockey days! He destroyed that Andrew Tate wannabe! You should listen to some of Trent's interviews before where he says he's going to tear Aman's head off.
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 2 жыл бұрын
Andrea won. there was a third stoppage and the refs started counting for the 3rd time, meaning andrea won..
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 2 жыл бұрын
Next event: Chessboxing960, in which not only are the back-rank pieces on the board re-arranged randomly, but so are the gloves, shorts, and shoes on the boxers.
@kingofgamez83
@kingofgamez83 2 жыл бұрын
The inch reach wasn’t as important as the massive 10 pound weight difference…that’s super substantial in a fight,that’s an entirely different weight class. Props to the smaller lady even staying in the fight.
@joakimquensel597
@joakimquensel597 2 жыл бұрын
And even more important I think was that Andrea's was in an overall better physical shape. Even though they had similar (almost none) boxing experience, Andrea fitness background was definitely in her favour. And then there is also the mind set, everyone is not borne a fighter regardless of the physical capabilities. This is probably the most important factor at this level.
@saintsaens21
@saintsaens21 2 жыл бұрын
@@joakimquensel597 Yes Andrea's fitness was the clincher, she barely looked tired despite dozens of vicious jabs.
@kingofgamez83
@kingofgamez83 2 жыл бұрын
Well yea that’s also true but agad said she (Andrea) had been preparing for awhile while the other lady was a last minute pick and only had about 1 month to prep which makes her hanging in there at a big disadvantage even more impressive.
@jc3drums916
@jc3drums916 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofgamez83 I believe Andrea said she had 6 weeks. The first mention of the match in Dina's Twitter feed was posted just over a month before the event, but who knows when she actually got the call. They had a practice "match" where, in lieu of boxing, they had to exercise during the boxing rounds, and played online against one another for the chess rounds (Dina was in Paris at that time, of course). Andrea's cardio was vastly superior - Dina looked like she was going to throw up by the end of it.
@tttITA10
@tttITA10 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: they played two matches online before (with high intensity callistenics substituting the boxing part, and with no rest between each chess round and the following boxing round), and Andrea won both of the matches on the board. So, even though their ratings are greatly apart in slow chess, this match was really, really balanced.
@fredd3.14
@fredd3.14 2 жыл бұрын
andrea literally got robbed by the ref, as is tradition in boxing. some things never change i guess
@dubious_potat4587
@dubious_potat4587 2 жыл бұрын
they played 3 games i believe with andrea winning 2 to 1
@andresstadelmann7583
@andresstadelmann7583 Жыл бұрын
At the same time you have to consider Dina was clearly outmatched by Andrea in the boxing section (which put her under more pressure to finish fast in chess which basically forced the unnecessary third boxing round), and Andrea purposely picked an opening that proves winning for black difficult in this time control. So she had a double disadvantage and was still able to pull through and basically destroy Andrea in the chess (besides that missed mate in 1)
@E-Brightvoid
@E-Brightvoid 2 жыл бұрын
Ludwig really went from a random Melee player, to editing the Reads, to becoming the one of the biggest Twitch streamers, to becoming a youtube event runner. What a mad lad
@rajat8965
@rajat8965 2 жыл бұрын
Who's ludwig?
@shoflowers
@shoflowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajat8965 he's one of the biggest streamers and the one who put together this event
@thommyneter168
@thommyneter168 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajat8965 pretty likable dude, who makes a lot of videos, streams on youtube and host all kinds of events
@sinelizwiqiqa1539
@sinelizwiqiqa1539 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajat8965 He is a guy from Pogchamps. I believe he's still rated under 1500 on Chess ratings.
@filipcesnjak2944
@filipcesnjak2944 2 жыл бұрын
Chessboxing is the ultimate sport, it tests your physical and intellectual abilities at the same time.
@parnyagin
@parnyagin 2 жыл бұрын
Sherlock would be the strongest chessbox player
@michaelbauers8800
@michaelbauers8800 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought bowling was the ultimate sport. Seriously deep strategy, intense athleticism, and I guess you get shot if you lose? But then I never watched bowling, so maybe I am wrong on some of these points ;)
@richardfredlund8846
@richardfredlund8846 2 жыл бұрын
h6 as response to the London system was a really resourceful approach by Dina Belenkaya, really opened things up on board as quick as possible.
@ramachandra776
@ramachandra776 2 жыл бұрын
Andrea deserved to win , but Dina missing the mate-in-1 was unfortunate . Andrea was butchering Dina in the boxing section while Dina was doing the same to Andrea in the chess section .
@ieorlich
@ieorlich 2 жыл бұрын
''Andrea was butchering Dina in the boxing section while Dina was doing the same to Andrea in the chess section" That's sounds fair enough. In chess if you let your time running you lose. This chessboxing thing favors boxing. So, for me Dina won fair and square.
@lucasanson7536
@lucasanson7536 2 жыл бұрын
In round 3, the referee counted Dina three tims, last time only for 1 second before the bell rang. That should have been a win for Anna.
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but he kept interfering and stopped them dispite no grabbling happening whatsoever. He wasted a good 30 seconds and all of Andreas momentum, absolutely terrible Ref there is noooo fucking way he didn't rig that on purpose. I'd need to hear real good explination on his behalf to believe otherwise.
@hairtoss7975
@hairtoss7975 2 жыл бұрын
Turning your back in boxing means you're quitting, it should have been called right there. Bad referee.
@tttITA10
@tttITA10 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I liked some of the other matches better, because of the better boxing displayed, this game was certainly the best demonstration of the full sport that night. I'd say referee failed to stop the boxing match in favour of Andrea. Yet, the chess game was VERY instructive and Dina designed her strategy for the match beautifully. Even if I think she should have lost in the boxing part, it would have been such a near miss with that blundered mate in 1. It was great fun.
@jc3drums916
@jc3drums916 2 жыл бұрын
The clock slowed down to the point where the final boxing round lasted ~12 seconds too long. The ref messed up badly at the end, but it never should have gotten that far.
@joakimquensel597
@joakimquensel597 2 жыл бұрын
The chess boxing event exceeded all my expectations! Even though I am a boxing fan, watching non skilled boxers fight each other more like a street fight is really entertaining!
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 2 жыл бұрын
Nazi colored heart.
@thisrighthereofficer4818
@thisrighthereofficer4818 2 жыл бұрын
Love the commentary! I haven’t heard of chessboxing before. It sounds goofy, but at the same time it sounds chaotic and fun
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 жыл бұрын
if you want more goofiness, go back to the very origins of the "sport"
@andresstadelmann7583
@andresstadelmann7583 Жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about boxing either but agad's recounting of the first round is probably far above the best explanation I myself could give to the game
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 2 жыл бұрын
Andrea got scammed by a terrible ref. Not only did he keep breaking up the fight when there was no grappling and absolutely no reason to do so in the 3rd round, but Andrea absolutely scored 3 TKO countdowns regardless of the ref interferance. Completely unbelievable, ref had absolutely no idea wtf he was doing and should have waved it for the 3rd count.
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity 2 жыл бұрын
I also noticed he was staring at both women when they had their backs turned to him as well. He legit stood behind Botez and slowly looked Her up and down for a full minute during the warmup of the first round. It was creepy as fuck.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatIsSanity kind of difficult for me to not give him a pass for doing that
@jeremiahlyleseditor437
@jeremiahlyleseditor437 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about the boxing stuff. Your chess commentary is excellent.
@robertakerman3570
@robertakerman3570 2 жыл бұрын
I like Andrea, sometimes noise cancelling is a must
@JW-qd3ol
@JW-qd3ol 2 жыл бұрын
I like Alexandra, because whenever Andrea talks I wish I was wearing noise-canceling headphones :P
@robertakerman3570
@robertakerman3570 2 жыл бұрын
@@JW-qd3ol The non-hearing can appreciate Her(ha-ha). Seriously, I would put up the volume; but I prefer silence during a game.
@pauldacus4590
@pauldacus4590 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! I watched the boxing portion on another channel before watching the end of this game.. WOW! Totally worth it!
@ezOqekuRitusohI
@ezOqekuRitusohI 2 жыл бұрын
One delayed on the board, the other delayed in the ring. It is the way of chessboxing.
@frozenpelt967
@frozenpelt967 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who’s never seen boxing matches, I thought both Andrea and Dina put up a great fight for both categories. I just hope that the ref takes all the heat instead of the competitors, and let Hans handle all the chess related drama instead
@stoutlager6325
@stoutlager6325 2 жыл бұрын
There's no drama about the outcome as it really doesn't matter to anyone who actually won this thing. It's not like this was a fight for a major title or olympic medal or something. It was good fun, I had fun, good enough.
@NaionProductions
@NaionProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@stoutlager6325 If by "heat" we mean constructively called out but no hate, then at least some heat is warranted considering the ref is a supposed professional and thus the integrity of the sport is at stake.
@NaionProductions
@NaionProductions 2 жыл бұрын
They did announce recently that, after they the reviewed the footage, Andrea should've won. So they gave her the award as well, but the damage is already done (source: MogulMoves twittr (comment gets deleted every time i link)). Hopefully the ref learnt from his mistake and we get a rematch.
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity 2 жыл бұрын
The position on the board was pretty even until this pawn to g3 move 10:30. With far more time on the clock and now a much better position on the board Belenkaya was dominating in chess. Botez annihilated in the boxing though and actually got a TKO in the last round but for some reason the ref didn't call it. Even the commentators ignored the third count even though seconds before saying Botez would win by TKO if another count happened. They both kind of won but for some reason the referee and commentators decided that third count never happened despite it being caught on camera, which is dodgy as hell. They both won but Andrea won first. What that ref did was the equivalent of saying play on with a checkmate on the board, totally absurd.
@kermit8173
@kermit8173 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, really takes the enjoyment out of the game. Screw that ref, showing preferential treatment in the ring.
@joakimquensel597
@joakimquensel597 2 жыл бұрын
Yes computer eval was even in the early part of the game but this was only because Dina played an odd opening in order to get Andrea out of her comfort zone.
@georgehornsby2075
@georgehornsby2075 2 жыл бұрын
Weird strategy all around, especially for Lawrence and Dina. If you're rated over 2000 in chess why not take a few weeks to learn the simple stuff like how to clinch and the basics of jabbing and working on your footwork and pivoting. That should allow you to survive a few rounds of boxing. Dina and Lawrence were just walking into punches.
@vigneshpb9
@vigneshpb9 2 жыл бұрын
I think she definitely did learn and practice it was more about having the stamina to last that long especially because Andrea has been into fitness for a much longer period and she could probably hold her own for a long time and she just needed to learn the boxing part, while Dina needed to do a bit of both. You could see her being incredibly exhausted in the match (not putting down her efforts though, it definitely is hard to hold out the way the contestants did considering they're all amateurs) trying to hold it out for as long as she could, even if she was able to throw some punches I'm not sure if it would have done any significant damage to Andrea
@BrutallyHonestBloke
@BrutallyHonestBloke 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about this is that Lawrence has been training boxing for a few years already and it is his big passion. :D Maybe should pick another sport... Like fishing for example.
@listey
@listey 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you meant they went into 90 minutes of boxing! Great video though, Thank you.
@garyhughes1936
@garyhughes1936 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the game here and then I went to KZbin not thinking too much about it. Then I happened to see the boxing match on KZbin. You have to watch the chess and boxing match. It was incredible. I had never heard of this before.
@josiahmacfarlane4344
@josiahmacfarlane4344 2 жыл бұрын
Insane to see a Ludwig event on Agadmator's channel.
@fredfondler7281
@fredfondler7281 2 жыл бұрын
2:43 the headphones were noise cancelling so that they wouldn't hear the commentators during the game
@MightyLeviathan
@MightyLeviathan 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why the bell rang in the last boxing round although the referee was still counting. In the boxing events I have seen so far, the bell could only be ringing while there is no counting. And though it was only the 2nd counting in that round, I am not sure if DIna would have been able to actively keep her hands up and show that she could still move on. Because now, the fight ended with her not needing to put her hands up again
@philharvey8555
@philharvey8555 2 жыл бұрын
It was the 3rd standing count that was interrupted by the bell.
@dxnce7593
@dxnce7593 2 жыл бұрын
Guys does anyone know The rating of all the participants in ludwig chess boxing event??? I think Andrea like 1700 while Dina 2300 but what about other participants??
@davegrenier1160
@davegrenier1160 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Antonio! Great vid, as usual. Just writing to let you know the link to the Android version of your chess clock isn't working!
@emopplrock1
@emopplrock1 2 жыл бұрын
Dude agadmator’s commentary of the boxing match is so gold … oh my god have me laughing
@nicbentulan
@nicbentulan 2 жыл бұрын
Andrea Botez was robbed in maybe BOXING but CHESSBOXING? Why are people talking about Dina's stalling in boxing which is NOT AGAINST the rules but not Andrea's stalling in chess which IS AGAINST the rules? Why didn't the ref forfeit Andrea for stalling in chess? Dina even gave Andrea a chance: Up 3min on time but misses a mate in 1? As if. And Andrea stalling in chess: Against the rules? Stalling in boxing isn't. No robbery here? --- Look it up: in chessboxing, it's against the rules to stall in chess, but it's not against the rules to stall in boxing. --- Edit 1: Look at 22:16 - 22:34 in pHLcyYsfxB4 Andrea stalls for 18 seconds? THE LAST BOXING ROUND SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED? Edit 2: If there is no stalling rule in chess, then I will concede Andrea Botez is both boxing-robbed and chessboxing-robbed. I agree stalling rule is stupid, but rules are rules.
@SacredLiquid
@SacredLiquid 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, but the ref broke them up and stood between them for like 6-7 seconds, enough to run the round out to the bell. Break them and move so they can fight. It *feels* like if the ref wanted to break them, why not call the 3rd stoppage or let them fight through the bell. I didn't think anyone thought it was a "robbery" because dina was evading in the ring.
@RyanHellyer
@RyanHellyer 2 жыл бұрын
They should have a time limit for each move. That'd avoid stalling and remove any need for a referee to intervene.
@qazxswedcxzaqws
@qazxswedcxzaqws 2 жыл бұрын
The rules were modified in this event to allow for stalling as a tactic if the player wanted to risk some of their clock in exchange for more opportunities of boxing rounds. The main point of this rule is to prevent a player from beating another before any boxing even happens.
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 жыл бұрын
you are talking about the generic rules, and they did not apply to this event. always understand the context before posting.
@nicbentulan
@nicbentulan 2 жыл бұрын
@@SacredLiquid I'm not talking about boxing. I'm talking about chess. Look at 22:16 - 22:34 in pHLcyYsfxB4 Andrea stalls for 18 seconds.
@RyanHellyer
@RyanHellyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis.
@godz1lla947
@godz1lla947 2 жыл бұрын
Hikaru and Eric Hansen like " You copied my whole fucking flow" with this chess boxing
@thegorn
@thegorn 2 жыл бұрын
Those two should get in the ring fosho
@Clearlight201
@Clearlight201 2 жыл бұрын
It seems the rules of chess boxing need a bit more refining. In normal boxing, not getting the KO but winning 100% of the rounds in a dominant fashion is a very clear win, but in chess boxing it's completely nullified by a fairly average, evenly contested game in the chess. Similarly a very dominant but unfinished game of chess could be completely nullified by a stoppage in a fairly evenly contested boxing section. In either case the dominant party might reasonably feel a draw or judges' decision would be a fairer result.
@100Parey
@100Parey 2 жыл бұрын
Agad, can you cover the finals of the B Cup ? It’s a LAN organized by Kévin Bordi (Blitzstream), and the finals were super hype with great games
@robertocollo2890
@robertocollo2890 2 жыл бұрын
#suggestion
@gump1005
@gump1005 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the B cups, I want to some some Double DDs out there in the ring bouncing around.
@pakiaoo7
@pakiaoo7 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think of it, it would be great to have some live Agadmator events, over the board tournaments or something to get to know our dear Antonio.
@Mindhumble
@Mindhumble 2 жыл бұрын
5:45 wow i didnt realise how brutal this was 90 MINUTES of boxing????
@Scott-uz1cd
@Scott-uz1cd 2 жыл бұрын
@Agad can you show Aman KOing Trent?
@OUTSIDEREDISTUO
@OUTSIDEREDISTUO 2 жыл бұрын
So... who is going against Agad in chessboxing?
@edwardebel1847
@edwardebel1847 2 жыл бұрын
It appears that the headphones might have been used to mask the commentator's banter which (as far as I could tell from the video of the event) was being "broadcast" to the audience in the auditorium...anyone else confirm this (or not)?
@NREAL01
@NREAL01 2 жыл бұрын
Fans should organize a ChessBoxing match between Magnus Carles vs HanzNiemman..... 🥊🥊🥊 That would be epic! No rules in boxing.....
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
The ref completely screwed Andrea, he kept protecting Dina when Andrea was going to win the boxing match. He kept stepping in between them for no good reason and jumping in to "split them up" for no good reason. He should've called the fight or let them fight. It was bogus.
@JUDALATION
@JUDALATION 2 жыл бұрын
what if one person looses in chess but wins in boxing? is it a draw?
@petermoller8337
@petermoller8337 2 жыл бұрын
So much fun, I’m looking forward to coffee chess
@jameammarijr.2248
@jameammarijr.2248 2 жыл бұрын
😅
@johnwilson8309
@johnwilson8309 2 жыл бұрын
Link to Ludwig channel please
@herbertcharlesbrown1949
@herbertcharlesbrown1949 2 жыл бұрын
11:19 wasn't Bishop h7 played as the last move before the boxing round? It's a nasty trick with the potential to make Andrea hang her queen, because her chess will be much worse after the boxing round
@jc3drums916
@jc3drums916 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps going on and on about the 3rd 8-count. But that wasn't the only controversy. Watch the clock during the last boxing round. It slows down multiple times. The round actually lasted ~102 seconds. Time should have expired well before the 3rd 8-count.
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 жыл бұрын
6:20 "Andrea was like a ..." the word you're looking for is "gremlin". Just ask her sister.
@athiefinthenight6894
@athiefinthenight6894 2 жыл бұрын
Dina played very well over the board but got absolutely battered by andrea in the ring.
@jesusrodriguez-gomez4469
@jesusrodriguez-gomez4469 2 жыл бұрын
Who did create this monster thing? A sádic, a frustrated chess player o a frustrated boxer?
@VirtualVoice2
@VirtualVoice2 2 жыл бұрын
"There was no third stoppage". There was - it's simply undeniable on review of the 3rd round footage. If this were an event administered by a fighting commission, the decision would be appealed and overturned, and a TKO win retroactively awarded to Botez. It is not - more of a KZbinr gong show, so the decision stands.
@VirtualVoice2
@VirtualVoice2 2 жыл бұрын
...on the other hand, Botez weighed 10 pounds more than Belankaya, which a fighting commission would not sanction...
@antar7475
@antar7475 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but, i feel like Andrea has some Balrog (from Street fighter) vibes 😄 She should have use that theme when entering on her sister shoulders : kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJnSdX98gNSkr80
@pedrovelazquez138
@pedrovelazquez138 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I can not believe this happened... and I loved it.
@viniciuscaldas4143
@viniciuscaldas4143 2 жыл бұрын
I did not know Andrea was 20 years of age. OMGGG, always when I see her face I already start laughing, she is funny af
@v4vun
@v4vun 2 жыл бұрын
Did you think she's younger or older?
@dinofx35
@dinofx35 2 жыл бұрын
Despite winning the game, it looked like Dina lost around 100 rating points from the boxing.
@mislavivkovic9996
@mislavivkovic9996 2 жыл бұрын
How about Hans and Magnus
@lwithwbasumatary9278
@lwithwbasumatary9278 2 жыл бұрын
Botez finally got featured 😮😮
@thegorn
@thegorn 2 жыл бұрын
She lost as she doesn't know how the knight moves
@rifwalker6807
@rifwalker6807 2 жыл бұрын
An exciting wait for soup at the reunion
@mtaur4113
@mtaur4113 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Dina was somewhat classier about the exit interview. Nothing against the Botez sisters generally, I just didn't feel like she left on the best note. The missed M1 and the last boxing round were a bit wild, and I think it's a shame that you can waste time with grapples and make the ref break you up. I feel like it's annoying and underpenalized in regular boxing, but in chessboxing especially, wasting a few seconds here and there is massive and kind of unfair.
@austinwheeler3665
@austinwheeler3665 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, though Dina’s pre-match video was pretty condescending towards Andreas chess strength, so it’s hard to fault Andrea for flexing a bit. I also think both Botez sisters are super aware of their brand and what their fans want. They’re professional entertainers after all. I wouldn’t be surprised if all the talk was an act and the fighters were already planning a girls’ night this weekend.
@mtaur4113
@mtaur4113 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinwheeler3665 There are some things that I'm a bit of a square about, and I just don't like smack talk. I guess it's all in good fun, but I find it tedious at best personally.
@miloradowicz
@miloradowicz 2 жыл бұрын
There's no rule against wasting time during the boxing rounds in chess-boxing, but what about Andrea just stalling during the last chess round? They initially announced that if a player doesn't make a move promptly enough, then the referee will start a count just like in boxing, but they never enforced it in this or any of the matches.
@mtaur4113
@mtaur4113 2 жыл бұрын
@@miloradowicz I think the rule where you're sort of allowed to grapple but not really is dumb, and it slows down regular boxing, and here it's not just a chance to rest in the ring, but force the boxing to not even matter. You can feel differently, but I think ot sucks and the match would be more interesting if they truly didn't allow it.
@mtaur4113
@mtaur4113 2 жыл бұрын
@@miloradowicz You could also argue that individual chess moves should have a separate timer, and I wouldn't be against that. I didn't see that part of the stream, and it sounds vague and subject to interpretation. Just call it 15 seconds or whatever and always enforce it, if they want any rule at all.
@jensino
@jensino 2 жыл бұрын
Fabiano is right: Andrea got robbed. 😎 (TKO after the 3rd standing count!)
@Zharkan16
@Zharkan16 2 жыл бұрын
13:05 - You think Dina did it because she wanted to redeem her boxing maybe?
@deanmarkovich3633
@deanmarkovich3633 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious do the women behavior arrogant like the men who are at the top of the Chess game???
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 жыл бұрын
taunting the opponent is an essential part of the spectacle
@silencionomus
@silencionomus 2 жыл бұрын
Well. I didn’t expect that. A Agadmator’s channel is where I go to learn things about chess. Like “chess-boxing”. Oddly.... satisfying?
@MrGouldilocks
@MrGouldilocks 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, Andrea's boxing skills are no joke. I'm pretty sure she would have kicked my ass out there, and I'm a 200 lb dude.
@queennine
@queennine 2 жыл бұрын
ok lets see how all Andrea's training goes after training with E. Rosen will come into play in this game using the London. Almost 3 hours in 3 videos. Good stuff and analysis of many different scenarios.
@AboudSafar
@AboudSafar 2 жыл бұрын
Do you win by knockout?
@RyanHellyer
@RyanHellyer 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@RyanHellyer
@RyanHellyer 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a win is via checkmate, knock out, or points if there's neither a checkmate or knockout.
@listey
@listey 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hellyer opponent flagging is also a win. Boxing points only relevant in the event of a stalemate I think.
@RandalReid
@RandalReid 2 жыл бұрын
You can
@stevenmontoya7275
@stevenmontoya7275 2 жыл бұрын
Andrea won. Dina lost. That ref was abysmal. He had three stoppages which meant TKO. Dina's chess was superb.
@TheHumanSystem
@TheHumanSystem 2 жыл бұрын
It was fun to watch, but the boxing referee was definitely interfering to get the match back to the chess board.
@dxnce7593
@dxnce7593 2 жыл бұрын
According to the Rules There's 3 stoppages in the last round and 4-5 stoppages in Total so that means Andrea won TKO both ways, the referee was shtt either he got paid to rig it or he bet on Dina winning & want to get some money!
@markb6158
@markb6158 2 жыл бұрын
andrea absolutly knocked Dina out, the Ref was RIDICULOUS. Andrea destroyed Dina, it was brutal, she should have been given the win. Was absurd.
@martinpaddle
@martinpaddle 2 жыл бұрын
Chesswise Andrea is at the level of a decent club player and Dina almost IM level. So Andrea did really well to hold on and compensate in the boxing.
@bengardner8639
@bengardner8639 2 жыл бұрын
Dina is literally a WGM, not just "almost IM level"
@martinpaddle
@martinpaddle 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengardner8639 the rating requirement for WGM is 2300, while for IM it's 2400. She got her IM norms but narrowly missed out on the required 2400 rating. So saying "almost IM" is actually better than WGM.
@vardhan6198
@vardhan6198 2 жыл бұрын
Was Waiting for it. Also 1st
@claudioliccardo458
@claudioliccardo458 2 жыл бұрын
The video starts on 4:04
@mishakmanuel1115
@mishakmanuel1115 2 жыл бұрын
Who's channel can I watch the chess boxing match from.. Didn't hear Agad properly
@ivan8093
@ivan8093 2 жыл бұрын
Search: Ludwig
@mishakmanuel1115
@mishakmanuel1115 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Stone2home
@Stone2home 2 жыл бұрын
Oy! Dat's a lotta gab there, Brotha!
@LionHGH
@LionHGH 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a version of chess I can identify as female and dominate
@dxnce7593
@dxnce7593 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know who tf put A Grandmaster like Dina against someone who is not and Expect them to win! Its Mismatched The difference in not even close, Also Andrea usually use London so Dina definitely prepared before the match to that,she planned how to win against Andraa london! It's unfair tbh they should put Dina against GM like her & Andrea against someone who closer to her chess to make it fair tbh! The boxing was more fair bc They both trained for 6 weeks Andrea clearly trained harder for hours bc she know she had disadvantages so she had to train hard & hope for the best
@bowrudder899
@bowrudder899 2 жыл бұрын
The match we really want to see: Hans vs. Magnus
@teoconserv9954
@teoconserv9954 2 жыл бұрын
5:45 "...and now they went into ninety minutes of boxing." You know, I would have watched full 90 minutes of them boxing,too, but we didn't get that much.
@armwrestlingfan6804
@armwrestlingfan6804 2 жыл бұрын
Why R U covering this game? Obviously the Myth guy vs Cherdleys was the best chess match of the night!!
@dirk9787
@dirk9787 2 жыл бұрын
@Agadmator: "00:00 Hello Everyone! Are you even using these??" I am if the time stamps are there.
@sslelgamal5206
@sslelgamal5206 2 жыл бұрын
Put Hans and Magnus in this tournament 🤣🤣👌👌 Except instead of boxing it should be Sumo wrestling 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@404talentnotfound5
@404talentnotfound5 2 жыл бұрын
YES AGAD WE USE IT!!
@Brodzik-kz8nt
@Brodzik-kz8nt 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a Niemann vs Carlsen and Hikaru vs Hansen match
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Hikaru vs Chris Hansen
@obscurity3027
@obscurity3027 2 жыл бұрын
All joking aside, Hikaru v. Eric would be amazing.
@cordobes
@cordobes 2 жыл бұрын
@@obscurity3027 Why? Eric is like twice the size of Hikaru and close enough at chess.
@jiddeyjiddey
@jiddeyjiddey 2 жыл бұрын
1 inch makes up a huuge difference trust me😏
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 2 жыл бұрын
One inch is nothing. What you should notice, even though it's a promo photo, is Andrea is leading with her left shoulder, which is correct (assuming she's right-handed). Dina's just putting her fists together. Already read in the comments that Andrea won the boxing part of it, which is what you'd expect from the photo.
@victorianchan8638
@victorianchan8638 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointing that you didn't say "Ninja Checkmate", use the music of the Wu Tang Clan, or refer to one of the participants as a "Ghost Face Killer". Brush up on your memes Antonio! Anyway, I look forward to seeing next video.
@olafslartibartfast5248
@olafslartibartfast5248 2 жыл бұрын
So, what is next? Scuba-chess! played under water with 3 minute oxygen tanks. Or para-chess: played during free fall, the players may open their parachute only after one of them won the game (true Armageddon style)
@SB-ex2px
@SB-ex2px 2 жыл бұрын
at 12:23 I would have tried white pawn h4 to make room for the white king on h2
@abhishekjain3148
@abhishekjain3148 2 жыл бұрын
If it were male players, there would be a good chance that the 28 year old would win at both chess and boxing vs a 20 year old guy, if they are at a reasonable physical fitness for professional chess players. The difference in energy level in the boxing match and the difference in the level of moves played on the board was clear.
@JamesBong3333
@JamesBong3333 2 жыл бұрын
Pasts, passed, paths, its all the same 🤣
@CharlieFleed
@CharlieFleed 2 жыл бұрын
You could always expand your already vast knowledge with some boxing theory, and knock out some friends at the library in the process.
@miloradowicz
@miloradowicz 2 жыл бұрын
We defo need debate-boxing. If you're out of arguments, just punch the opponent in the face.
@24ghosh24
@24ghosh24 2 жыл бұрын
11:27 why not simply h2 to stop the queen from infiltrating.
@Tehdib
@Tehdib 2 жыл бұрын
I do use the time slices.
@tangohotellima1895
@tangohotellima1895 2 жыл бұрын
This video will have a great number of views (greater, that is, than usual). I can feel it...😍🙈
@petermoller8337
@petermoller8337 2 жыл бұрын
As of move three we removed all semi fake computer’s mobile machines moving moves and enabled movies and boxes
@michalbotor
@michalbotor 2 жыл бұрын
spoiler. the interruptions by the ref were way too long.. andrea had to knock out dina in the third round and i believe she would have if it wasn't for the ref constantly interrupting the match. it was incredibly exciting to see them go into this third round knowing what's at stake but then everything was ruined. the crowd was furious, booing the show and rightfully so. in all honesty, andrea won in my heart: he was better on the ring and she was equal on the board; dina robbed herself of being better on the board when she missed a mate in one. big heart to her for being so kind and humble to her opponent after the match had finished.
@jimmyewald
@jimmyewald 2 жыл бұрын
"Are you even using these??" I do :)
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