Andrei Arlovski vs Roy Nelson

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@TheWhocoulditbe
@TheWhocoulditbe 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Merry christmas to you 2!
@JohnnyCrimson2000
@JohnnyCrimson2000 10 жыл бұрын
Why are people complaining that it was a premature call? What could Nelson possibly have done to save himself? He practically landed face first, turned around, and left himself wide opened for even more punches. No matter what, the fight would have been ended right then and there.
@pacajajo
@pacajajo 7 жыл бұрын
JohnnyCrimson2000 Nelson is a bjj black belt and could had done something on the ground
@blazmo2567
@blazmo2567 7 жыл бұрын
His head hit the canvas. His arms were wide open. He took his time getting to his feet. He was as done as done does get.
@Dee-KV3
@Dee-KV3 6 жыл бұрын
Practically the ref saved Roys ass,arlovski would have beat him really badly with g n p
@shadowscarnage
@shadowscarnage 6 жыл бұрын
Any more action would of changed nothing about the outcome. I just watched Roy's fight with Mark Hunt and it was the same call which was the safe one.
@kopxpert
@kopxpert 10 жыл бұрын
Arlovski back in the UFC!!! Will fight Brendan Schaub on June 14 at UFC 174!!!
@dubz7t2
@dubz7t2 13 жыл бұрын
i used to love watching Arlovski .. he was a beast ... great fight
@loucfur4843
@loucfur4843 12 жыл бұрын
In an interview with Mike Straka not to long ago Roy was asked about the weight and fighting at 205. Roy said he would do it towards the tail end of his career, and as a former fighter myself (I fought at both 205 and 230 and I'm 6'4) I believe he would give Jones a real tough fight and could beat him. He ate all of JDS punches and kept on coming. JDS would beat Jones who walks around at 221. Roy has a GREAT chin, Heart, punches hard, solid bjj, and stamina (as a fat guy) imagine as a 205er.
@swewunna
@swewunna 11 жыл бұрын
Arlovski's problem is his glass chin. He has all the technique, atheletic physique etc. But one hit to the chin and lights are out. That's how he lost to the fights he was winning.
@Jrock4247
@Jrock4247 10 жыл бұрын
When a shot lands on the right spot with the force these guys are throwing punches at anyones lights go out.
@courtlycard6556
@courtlycard6556 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jrock4247 not everytime. Mark hunt and roy nelson went years gettung nailed before there chin went out
@JEFFCLEVANDR
@JEFFCLEVANDR 11 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing... Roy was in side control... Working on a submission and still striking made no sense to stand them up. Makes me somehow feel that the ref was in cahoots with Arlovski or there was something fishy going on.
@patrickdeoliveira75
@patrickdeoliveira75 11 жыл бұрын
Arlovski would have ruined Nelson's chin if the ref let it continue
@MLakesowen
@MLakesowen 11 жыл бұрын
should watch Nelson vs JDS lol
@HaveAGoodDayFk.U
@HaveAGoodDayFk.U 7 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a good stoppage, Roy was flat on his stomach trying to roll over, if it wouldn't have been finished arlovski would have came down with a helo fire of fist and might have hurt roy. I'm pretty sure Roy would agree after seeing the replay, buuut I dont think it should have been stood up when roy was going for the Kimora
@blaze556922
@blaze556922 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Exactly what I was thinking!
@IronKnok
@IronKnok 12 жыл бұрын
Andre has always been one of my favourites
@saeros666666
@saeros666666 11 жыл бұрын
For me Andrei Arlovski is legend, no matter he win or lose
@OcelotDAD
@OcelotDAD 10 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable, this is why Arlovski is such a fan favorite.
@deleteca1699
@deleteca1699 8 жыл бұрын
too bad he fights like a bum now
@SlayerofFiction
@SlayerofFiction 10 жыл бұрын
It is hard to Imagine how good Roy would be if he lost his gut, sad, tons of potential wasted to always simply be a middle grade fighter.
@momsspaghetti7729
@momsspaghetti7729 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he could of lost his chin with all that weight it could have made it weaker
@GeneralMe100
@GeneralMe100 11 жыл бұрын
Roy Nelson is a fantastic fighter, ive never seen him in a boring fight.
@hellosaysme08
@hellosaysme08 12 жыл бұрын
how do you stand someone up from side control?
@ryguy1314
@ryguy1314 11 жыл бұрын
agreed it's like he didn't even notice or care about the knees but that andrei had pretty good boxing against him in this one.
@derryderison7888
@derryderison7888 9 жыл бұрын
at 7:58?? - Frank's got some explaining to do!
@sirtalis69
@sirtalis69 13 жыл бұрын
I would love to have seen a prime Arlovski vs JDS. That would be a sick fight!
@YonatanAlem
@YonatanAlem 13 жыл бұрын
@RayCapone88 I Remember hearing that Roy Nelson fought on short notice.
@FreddyD11
@FreddyD11 10 жыл бұрын
The only thing that kept Roy up was his gut. Good stoppage
@hellosaysme08
@hellosaysme08 12 жыл бұрын
it is so difficult to obtain that postion of control, and he was working on a kimura which is being active. so i dont get it, though i see where you are coming from
@eyeofth3b3hold3r
@eyeofth3b3hold3r 12 жыл бұрын
Was this before or after andre fought fedor?
@mikejones-qk2ou
@mikejones-qk2ou 11 жыл бұрын
Nelson vs Cormier coming up? Has Cormier ever been taken down?
@GUNSFOREVER1
@GUNSFOREVER1 11 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Why do you have to be like that? Why do you think that boxers who are unable to make it to the 10 second count declared knocked out even though they weren't necessarily fully unconscious. Same with body shot knockouts.
@azfryguy
@azfryguy 12 жыл бұрын
he took shoots like that in the ufc and looked fine he looked fine he seemed hurt and exhausted and just was done good stoppage good improvement by jds
@JeffPenaify
@JeffPenaify 11 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said except the stop. The stoppage was legit.
@5KnuckleShuffle
@5KnuckleShuffle 10 жыл бұрын
Arlovski owns in universal soldier!!
@PDXJack87
@PDXJack87 8 жыл бұрын
the ref was very premature to stand the guys back up. he shouldn't have stood them up twice in the first round. wasn't like they were just standing/laying around...
@Jerry-ne8bz
@Jerry-ne8bz 10 жыл бұрын
Arlovski has one of the hardest punches I've ever seen.
@TardRepellent
@TardRepellent 11 жыл бұрын
this isn't boxing. a knockout looks bad on your record, a technical knockout isn't as bad. also because I think we should stop changing the definitions of words to suit the media.
@luc649
@luc649 12 жыл бұрын
Agree , I like Roy and he is tough as a nail but it don't matter how quick he would have recuperate that was a good stoppage...maybe the ref saved the rest of his career that night who knows ?
@Bagual133
@Bagual133 9 жыл бұрын
See the kind of people viewing UFC yesterday and today!
@orangecrushedify
@orangecrushedify 13 жыл бұрын
@iRandyyyyy it looked like it was right after the sub was released. the ref stood them back up..
@210Ep3DeMic
@210Ep3DeMic 12 жыл бұрын
yeh but that was two years prior to where he was against jds and wheres andre now?;p
@Eddieking
@Eddieking 12 жыл бұрын
Well put friend, well put!
@korysax8
@korysax8 11 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you in that the ref absolutely should not have stood the fight up in the first round. He screwed Roy there. But at the end of the fight I think he saved Roy from taking a lot more damage. Roy was hurt and Andrei was not going to stop.
@Chucifer
@Chucifer 11 жыл бұрын
If this wasn't Roy Nelson it would have been a fine stoppage. The standup right after Roy let go of the Kimura was stupid though.
@edgehead192
@edgehead192 13 жыл бұрын
@VEGETADTX I agree. His chin has deteriorated over the years. He's still an amazing fighter.
@VEGETADTX
@VEGETADTX 13 жыл бұрын
@iRandyyyyy Referee saw that Roy already tried it few times and failed, the match was getting monotone and boring btw, so seeing that Roy can't submit Andrei he stood them up so the fans actually see some action...Besides the only submission victory I see here(if it stayed on the ground) would be Andrei via leglock.
@Luke7ube
@Luke7ube 11 жыл бұрын
It says alot about Arlovski's striking to be able to put down Big Country like that.
@Victorythruattrition
@Victorythruattrition 12 жыл бұрын
You just proved my point...WINNING!
@Irishenforcer89
@Irishenforcer89 12 жыл бұрын
Ha where is Arlovski now? Nelson a top ten contender in UFC. I would love to see a rematch.
@jewjittsuguy
@jewjittsuguy 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, except that there was no way for the ref to interfere with the Kimbo fight. It wasn't exactly an endurance battle.
@BonesBroken
@BonesBroken 11 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that stoppage, I know Roy can take a hit but he was wide open when he went down and getting hit more is all that would have happened if Arlovski was allowed to pounce.....
@jmartsx
@jmartsx 11 жыл бұрын
This was a knockout in MMA.
@dank1j
@dank1j 12 жыл бұрын
didn't think roy was gonna lose this one. Roy is tougher now, stronger chin and better head movement to avoid the combo strikes. When you fall face down like that the ref will be quick to wave it. The stand-up when Roy had andrei down was wrong. Roy seemed to think that he had the best position. What improvement did the ref want? A full mount might have worked, but roy had great control already. oh well.
@Turco949
@Turco949 12 жыл бұрын
What is BJJ, Big Jell-o Jitsu?
@kreeperrock
@kreeperrock 12 жыл бұрын
people seem to forget doesn't matter how big and hard you think you are anyone could knock you out if they catch you just right
@GriffinAmongOceans
@GriffinAmongOceans 13 жыл бұрын
@DPE3926 yea i know haha, talking about pure grapplin though
@UTubeDownTheToilet
@UTubeDownTheToilet 10 жыл бұрын
I wanna see this rematch
@VEGETADTX
@VEGETADTX 13 жыл бұрын
In this fight Arlovski did what no UFC fighter came close to...so much for Alrovski no being good. Its just that his chin is diminished these days...its years of training and getting punched in the head constantly...but there must be some other health problem who knows. But I think that the huge reason for his KO loses are that he just faces tough fighters, seriously Kharitonov...perhaps the best MMA brawler right now. Bottomline Arlovski is an amazing fighter and champion for a reason.
@JEFFCLEVANDR
@JEFFCLEVANDR 11 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if he was trying for the whole round... The point was that Roy had side control and was attacking with a submission. A ref is suppose to be impartial. By standing them up he saved Arlovski from a possible submission. The ONLY time a red is suppose to stand up fighters is if the fighters are in a neutral position and are at a stalemate. Such was not the case when the ref stood them up. Therefore the ref had no reason to stand them up.
@IceThatJaw
@IceThatJaw 9 жыл бұрын
Had Arlovski dived for hammerfists, that might have been one of the ugliest KO's of all time. Roy turned face up like a red hot target.
@SvetsChannel
@SvetsChannel 13 жыл бұрын
Did Nelson say "Fuck you!" when Arlovski was checking him out after the KO? Or was it somebody else cursing at Arlovski?
@EvolutionaI
@EvolutionaI 12 жыл бұрын
I wish Arlovski had a better chin. It would be nice to see him fighting in the big promotions again.
@AbuGrabIt
@AbuGrabIt 8 жыл бұрын
I thought this was mixed martial arts. The ref turned it into K1.
@LJSJIUJITSU
@LJSJIUJITSU 13 жыл бұрын
@ThiSHmOng6uY That's why I really loved PRIDE and other Japanese events. Here in the USA all people want to see is blood and wild swinging. Over in Japan the ground game was appreciated.
@Mario1057
@Mario1057 11 жыл бұрын
Roy dropped like a sack of potatoes! :)
@smokemafiaclick
@smokemafiaclick 12 жыл бұрын
i thought fedor was fighting rizzo in russia?
@CavemanTravels
@CavemanTravels 12 жыл бұрын
no I am 22 7' 390lbs you think you could knock me out?
@81carlos
@81carlos 12 жыл бұрын
A lot of fighters who have dropped down to 205 after fighting at heavyweight their whole career have had problems because of weakening themselves in order to make the cut including Ken Shamrock and Alistair Overeem. They did/have done much better in the heavyweight division.
@joe14636
@joe14636 12 жыл бұрын
If Arlovski ever comes back to the UFC this rematch HAS to happen, I don't think Nelson will get KO'd again, in his fight with JDS he has proved that he has one of the best chins in MMA.
@HarisFazlicRMIT
@HarisFazlicRMIT 12 жыл бұрын
i remember when i use to play the first ufc game on ps2 it said arlovski was a kickboxer !?
@UnblockedOne2
@UnblockedOne2 13 жыл бұрын
ye, UFC needs to stop hyping Roy Nelson, saying he's never been stopped/dropped etc..
@TheHardstyleIcon
@TheHardstyleIcon 13 жыл бұрын
@iRandyyyyy he wasnt attempting it anymore so he stood them up
@therealspikemike
@therealspikemike 11 жыл бұрын
Weird, yeah I know a good bit about MMA, and I have been a fan since the early no-gloves, less rules days, but I don't keep up with all the rules about stuff like that, but it definitely seemed to me that there was still some major action going down, and I thought the exact same thing. That was screwy as hell.
@DeFy18
@DeFy18 12 жыл бұрын
yeah but roy didnt know striking at all, he even said he didnt learn how to strike until 2009 and this being 2008
@rrtodd95
@rrtodd95 12 жыл бұрын
It's listed on Wiki and his web page as Shaolin kung fu so I'm wrong. But Wing Chun was created by the monks during the Qing Dynasty when they where burning down the Shaolin Temples, I'm going to say, same thing, close enough.
@awebb3807
@awebb3807 12 жыл бұрын
good solid fight, yes Nelson is 20+ bigger but honestly, the guy is fast, it's astonishing
@SENDYOUMISSING
@SENDYOUMISSING 12 жыл бұрын
if these to ever rematched.. arlovski wudnt make it past the first 2 mins...
@kountrykountykidd
@kountrykountykidd 11 жыл бұрын
that was a clean knockout
@tizmond
@tizmond 12 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see them fight now.
@tronclay
@tronclay 14 жыл бұрын
good fight and good sportsmanship, roy nelson moves pretty good for such a big guy but he gets gassed right off
@dvf3fairleigh
@dvf3fairleigh 11 жыл бұрын
great fight, I think Roy Nelson would be able to utilize his awesome skills much better if he lost that beer gut, he is very tough and a great fighter
@nextlvlroy
@nextlvlroy 13 жыл бұрын
@VEGETADTX It is true. You hardly see any decision losses by Arlovski. Majority are all KO or TKO and by punches. It sucks. I've seen him in a few fights, but I think he's a good fighter. It's just his chin that cripples him.
@irphil47
@irphil47 13 жыл бұрын
@VEGETADTX actually, JDS came pretty close to finishing him, and Crocop had him up against the cage in rd 2. Don't get me wrong, Nelson has one of the best chins in heavyweight, and props to Arlovski for finishing such a tough dude, but I just don't ever see him being successful against top tier guys in his div since his chin can't take the punishment that heavyweights are throwing around these days. I love Arlovski, but maybe a move to light heavyweight or middleweight may benefit him more.
@The79Machine
@The79Machine 13 жыл бұрын
@XRockerFromSacto arlvoski's gonna be one of those dudes still beast in his 60s
@backrightp0cket
@backrightp0cket 11 жыл бұрын
He's a black belt in juijitsu or however its spelt
@Kinggypo2
@Kinggypo2 12 жыл бұрын
he also has a great advantage at 205 the fact that his eaten shots from JDS fabricio werdum frank mir and has knocked out heavy wieghts that should give confidence to compete with the guys at 205
@JobForATurtle
@JobForATurtle 11 жыл бұрын
why? he was out.
@jamesjamesonjames2938
@jamesjamesonjames2938 10 жыл бұрын
He's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
@Fultzy02
@Fultzy02 11 жыл бұрын
he doesn't have to be out cold for the fight to stop, the ref saved him from getting hurt more than he could have been, definitely a justifiable stoppage!
@TheDrumminMan08
@TheDrumminMan08 11 жыл бұрын
I would agree if this was kickboxing or boxing, where knockdowns result in an 8 count, but since Andrei easily could have dropped several more bombs after he hypothetically pounced on the dazed Roy, it probably still would have been stopped anyway-- keeping the fight going in a circumstance like that is basically encouraging unnecessary minor brain damage, imo. Pat Curran vs Joe Warren in Bellator was like that.
@Jawf94
@Jawf94 5 жыл бұрын
The day the glass chin shattered the iron chin.
@Wrathful10210
@Wrathful10210 12 жыл бұрын
i'd think in the ufc they MIGHT follow it but it would just be a guess
@hermygagala
@hermygagala 12 жыл бұрын
How was he still able to defend himself? You can clearly see that his body goes limp for a second and if it wasn't completely he would have just sustained extra unnessesary damage. He basically just rolled over and you could tell he was done.
@VEGETADTX
@VEGETADTX 13 жыл бұрын
@drfeelgud88 I am glad you agree man...I think that when you meet a stage of career where your chin diminishes completely like in the case of Arlovski and Crocop, I believe you can only seek success in grappling...but then again that wouldn't be entertaining, that's why Crocop retired just recently :( But then again, you never know when some of them can pull of some amazing victory...
@jorgejrv
@jorgejrv 13 жыл бұрын
attempting a submission and attempting a pass are basically the same. the ref is right to stand them up if either a guard pass or submission attempt fail consistently. Or would you like 5 mins of a guillotine attempt without a ref standing it up
@stewartmoore5989
@stewartmoore5989 12 жыл бұрын
I agree also. I love both fighters but Roy is tough as nails, he wasn't done. It was a bad stoppage.
@harlequin75
@harlequin75 11 жыл бұрын
9:50 "Roy Nelson's gut...It wants to be kneed-ed....look at it!!!" LOL
@okbye1
@okbye1 13 жыл бұрын
it was unusual that it was stopped from just the blow and fall down of nelson, usually the you have to keep hitting the guy a few times and see if he can defend.....
@dramirez0144
@dramirez0144 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@blaze556922
@blaze556922 11 жыл бұрын
It was a good stoppage and a good stand up. The crowd and fans like myself don't want to see unexciting ground fighting.(Hence the roaring boos) If a fighter is working a sub for more than 30 seconds with no advancement then the ref should stand them up so they can FIGHT. Its a FIGHT remember, not a grappling contest. Real warriors are strikers and that is what WE want to see. If you have a problem with stand ups then maybe you should watch wrestling or BJJ tournaments where thats all they do...
@bonek350
@bonek350 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect stoppage. He was out. You don't need to see their heads bounce off the floor too know.
@JxrryVon
@JxrryVon 13 жыл бұрын
@iRandyyyyy right before he stops it arlovskis hand pops up if you watch, but yeah he was being aggressive so id agree on that one
@TheDrumminMan08
@TheDrumminMan08 11 жыл бұрын
Andrei had already rocked him badly with an uppercut right underneath the jaw, and that cross was brutal... 'stoppage' implies it was a TKO but nah, Andrei actually turned Nelson's lights out, even if he probably regained consciousness on the ground. Even still, plenty of guys report being dazed/unable to remember what just happened, even when the ref stops it during a beatdown and they don't actually lose consciousness... don't be a bloodmonger.
@FreeForAllOnRust
@FreeForAllOnRust 11 жыл бұрын
It's weird actually seeing big country get stopped
@masmotors
@masmotors 12 жыл бұрын
this may sound bad but ufc needs to do quicker stand ups like this kinda for the fox shows so many ppl watch that
@ilijastoka
@ilijastoka 11 жыл бұрын
Roy Nelson Style Wrestling???
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