NEW Paladins Item Store Tested & Explained! (Paladins PTS)

[@shr2894zskle]

Getting used to this is, yes, going to take some time, and as per every game that changes something, someone, somewhere is going to complain about it. But I like the way that Evil Mojo is improving Paladins as much as they can. One suggestion I do have is mainly the Unreal Engine they're using, if I recall correctly, they are still using UE3, I know it's going to take *A LONG TIME* to update to UE4. But that is going to reduce the amount of bugs we've been having for years!

[@xdxd-ks9jv]

There is UE5 already

[@shr2894zskle]

@@xdxd-ks9jv The reason I specifically mentioned Unreal Engine 4, is because of the use case that Evil mojo would have, Unreal Engine 5's features would not really work with Evil Mojo's game.

[@CO-L-SON]

Smite recently done the jump from 3 to 5 but I know they decided to go that route, most likely years ago. I hope if they decide to change, hopefully that we can see some early alpha later next year or early 2026 maybe. Here’s hoping

[@tobiasaugustodeoliveiradia9417]

They are probably gonna jump to E5, just like smite did, and yes, a lot of programmers that worked on paladins said that their base is kinda messy and has difficulty interacting with unique mechanics like atlas time control

[@oddzzyy5649]

smite 2?

[@Matfullgames]

Lifesteal cards on Buck and pip don't suffer with DR because they don't apply a buff to you, they apply a debuff to the enemy.

[@ashd639]

Will the new items maybe break the game? Perhaps, but I think the prospect of being able to find sweet combos like the Lilith one are gonna be sweet

[@psypolux]

1 game changer would be a new option like QUICK Game , where we can fit in a team randomly missing players for some time. or a game quit votation for team , cuz there is people picking a player and after stay AFK all game.

[@yabbadabbindude]

Backfill would be tricky, they couldn't implement properly in rogue company last time I checked

[@ImSquiggs]

Yeah, the devs really just need to hand out more intense bans for AFKing games. If I had to guess, they probably don’t have the tools to verify if it’s even being done or if it’s a false report and can’t do anything real about it - at least it feels like from a player perspective, seeing an AFKer in almost every casual game.

[@FarisAmgad]

I think that's going to be very healthy for Paladins. These changes will allow off meta picks to shine which would either A: shift the entire meta making every game feel unique instead of seeing the same 10-15 champions every single game. or B: making some champs extremely broken causing people to always pick them but that could always be fixed w/ nerfs W changes in my opinion

[@ImSquiggs]

The ult powerup is a nice visual change. Coming from a brand new player, I was confused my first few games why the Quake symbol was rotating in the center of TDM matches… even picking it up the first few times I didn’t notice it filled my ult. The color change to match the full ult icon is way clearer.

[@DramaticCrossroad]

Glad to see there is effort in increasing TTK and more focus on strategy. Getting 1-shot is not fun, never has been, never will be.

[@damocles5047]

Seris is gonna be crazy with life rip and Torvald - Makoa with Guardian.

[@StiggyAzalea]

Hoard + bloodbath instant lock on any support. Probably more effective than chronos for almost all of them

[@eduardosolorzano5020]

Love this update, is going to be a messy HELL of a time

[@plat6164]

I like how Paladins is essentially getting an AD/AP split like in mobas

[@IamAlleycat]

Excited for some characters to finally get the spotlight but scared since some players IQ equal room temperature

[@asphodelos5662]

Ok. Now there's a question. Does the new "Blast Shield" item help against the Saati's coin? I wonder if it does, since the old Haven did not affect the incoming damage from the coin whatsoever. I was shocked when I saw that with and without a Haven Saati's coin does 300 damage. There's no counter to that.

[@mikesimmerman4457]

Yes sense it ability

[@justinepaulcordovilla5852]

Tiberius Q also probably counts as an armor plating countered skill, and his bragging rights card probably heals really good with kill to heal.

[@NotSureIExist]

31:56 Tyra also has an innate 15% on her gun, if you read the advanced tab in her character page. Obviously, in that case you aren't using up loadout points, and it would basically be ≈68% or so lifesteal with lvl 3 of the item (60% from the item, then a diminished 15%) i dont know the exact math for the diminishing returns, though

[@mirkofloris9979]

It's a 4% with lv 3 lifesteal, so 64%

[@custi]

I'm most afraid of giga armored flanks and trigger scent.. increasing damage for 5s after a kill is way too long time as increasing damage like this already causes a snowball effect. Also the fact that so many games these days have bots just makes at least one player a free damage buff farm now too.

[@Chommy-up2on]

Finally raum can shine in damage 🗿

[@GudHunterYT96]

Skye is gonna have to be nerfed heavily after this [she's can snowball and not even have to try] cause I can see everyone complaining about Skye heavily

[@4eka733]

15:20 no it's not the first item, Haven and Veteran were synergy items for the longest time since that extra health is also shielded (u take less damage) so yeah

[@renzxcoreey1885]

12:38 DAY ONE TORVALD LESSGOOO

[@Akuza_pulls_up]

when is it ingame

[@BrambleJam]

Here are some of my thoughts: Many of these items are very powerful, especially the healing items. Ive noticed a trend of the healers being made less powerful, and this could be a way to keep the games long and intense. I am a bit skeptical on how the scent item will work, it looks to be a must buy, for bursty champs, at any rate. I am looking forward to the increased item count, increased beginning credit balance, and all the combos that come along with it, but i would like to see the option to possibly sell an item back to the store. (Plus that could fix the bug that happens when you crash and lose all progress on your items) Glad caspian is getting nerfed, not looking forward to the lian buff, and i wonder wtf the devs were smoking to think that was a good idea. Not looking forward to the vii meta again. Oh, and im hoping we get octavia back soon. Overall, i am quite excited at the new changes!

[@pyrusvincent1029]

Fusilade Drogoz with Trigger Scent is going to go fucking hard, I'm so excited.

[@theinfamousbrothers6039]

now we gonna start craying about torvald se they nerf him

[@QuDaRage]

And just like that, knockback cheese is now meta, considering its only counter only works if you're already snowballing the team. Everyone thinks these new items are an improvement, but I'm calling it right now: this is gonna suck.

[@yabbadabbindude]

Saati going to be so annoying

[@tobiasaugustodeoliveiradia9417]

I really like these item changes, It's gonna make item buys more skill based, I also think hoard might be broken for characters that want cronos

[@Mestari1Gaming]

Can you buy Guardian on a Grohk that uses the shield card?

[@GabeWatchesAnime]

Btw when you say the souls for Raum not being affected by Cauterise, does that include the heal for x amount for each soul you colllect?

[@ranzu3138]

I'll say the same as a previous video: Keep Resilience and just make Sentinel give you shields on eliminations. I think that would be more straight forward and easier to balance.

[@StiggyAzalea]

What if each level of guardian counteracted the respective level of wrecker? Or at least halved it. That way you dont have 8k health torvald ruining the days of anyone who doesnt buy wrecker but tanks can still protect themselves from max wrecker. Also that way its still technically useful for non tank characters who have self shielding cards

[@4eka733]

mathematically it does exactly that

[@4eka733]

it takes the same time for someone with lv0 wrecker to lower a tank's sheild with lv0 guardian, as if they both have lv3 those items.

[@StiggyAzalea]

​@@4eka733but the difference is that it doesn't affect the people who don't buy wrecker, it only protects the tank from people who do buy wrecker. I know the math is the same but the implications are VERY different

[@4eka733]

Yeah well in that case only 1 person in the enemy team needs to buy wrecker weather u have 1 tank or 5 tanks, pretty unbalanced if you think about it, tbh its good as it is now

[@dartanyin]

the split of haven confuses me, it's not intuitive. It says abilities will be countered, but Lian's abilities are not abilities? I can only imagine how many other champions im going to be wrong on too.

[@godlyvex5543]

If you look at the ability descriptions for lian, it specifically says they are considered weapon attacks. This isn't a new thing, this has been the case for a while

[@crstlite]

now it seems like 2 tanks with torvald is back and better than EVER.

[@Zebrix10]

22:45 as lilith main i just found my fav item in the game XDD

[@illuritrinadhreddy8279]

Also test koga with dragon fangs please

[@MultiSenhor]

Trigger Happy is very good on Imani's ultimate (assuming it inherits it from Imani)

[@kacperprokop8316]

When will this update be live?

[@yabbadabbindude]

All they've accomplished with this new item store is create more volatility. Early game builds/gimmicks are going to be harder to counter and lead to more early game blowouts. Pocketed Flanks are going to be even more busted, snowballing is going to have people stuck in spawn and people are going to afk after first push even worse than they already do (with no punishment from the devs of course)

[@artmanrom]

I wish that they clearly say for each hero (like before they used to) what type of damage they do with each of their action. For instance, Vora with her primary fire is dealing weapon or ability damage? Weapon damage probably but without any explicit say from the devs in the character's description (as they used before) you never can be sure. I guess those devs purposely and maliciously are letting us in the fog about this.

[@animen2044]

But the problem is there still only 4 item slots. If they divide one item into two, it will be impossible to counter something at the very least.

[@sairentoeko]

I believe that's the idea, to try and make you think harder. You can't just insta counter a whole team, you have to be more strategic

[@atari8603]

That's a good thing

[@Lyra_dragonal]

I don't know how long u have played since but i remember blast shields

[@samk3141]

Just a note about the thumbnail, the red border makes it look like i've already watch the video, something you might want to change

[@fischi9129]

kill to heal is honestly the thing that by far concerns me the most. If it stacks, it'S a must buy first item for everybody. Like if 5 people shoot 1 person and that player dies, it's 3k heal for the killer and 600 for each of the other ones. That's 6k heals getting produced by 1 kill

[@joaoalmeida5926]

its affected by anti heal, its the worst item in the game

[@fischi9129]

@@joaoalmeida5926 just to help you use your only working braincell. When you max out the item, it's on average around a 500 heal taking account of cauterize. a LOT of champions play small amoutns of heals in their loadouts (bk 75 heal per bomb, barik heal from turrets, ruckus heal from rockets....). Will more hp be better in lategame? absolutely. is it still a relevant amount of healing? yes (also considering it on lvl 2 for round 1, on avg round 1 ends on abotu 50% caut, which means 600 heal per kill if you are affected by caut). I'm pretty sure you are the player taking lian eminence into ruckus yago instead of playing precision because eminence is the talent most people play kekw

[@linmayo790]

no, It Will be 300 healing. i don't understand the dumb logic of ignoring antiheal. people should be smart enough to just not buy life rip + hands every start of the match

[@joaoalmeida5926]

@@fischi9129 keep your mental breakdown away for me. first of all i onlt play precision xd second of all the item is 325, you wont get to level 3 at round 1 so your whole point is pointless. Also the cards you mentioned are kinda bad and they proc more times AND before kills. The only situation i can see that shit new item being a thing is on jenos but even with him, its just not worth it

[@joaoalmeida5926]

@@linmayo790 kill to heal next patch does not ignore anti heal

[@capitaineanakin5959]

Just wondering if somone knowns but is vora with the buffed life rip any good?

[@am_a_tem6597]

My only question is this: is Hoard meant to work in spawn during the time between points? I was playing on the pts yesterday and noticed that i still gained the 10 credits, even when normal passive credit gain was disabled. Is this intentional?

[@watercat1248]

I think this new items is great opportunity to expiroment But believe some items it may end up broken in some character and i expect to have Chenge in the next update after that Buff and Nerf in some off those items

[@GeneralCba]

This is excited can't lie. Also, Paladins is the only time I use Math since school lmao

[@nalogglupi5024]

There was no need to split resilience. Sentinel is already too good bcs shields, there is no need to include light cc immunity. Also Sha, Vora, BK and other burst dmg champs are gonna be meta bcs of Insanity. No one asked for this, we want Paladins 2 in U4 or U5

[@rinothy]

I think grohk is going to be crazy as an off tank now, i main him so i’m a little biased. You get so many assists on marlstrom that you’ll be providing decent heals and the self sustain will be ridiculous

[@T1MEXII]

Trigger action with damage grohk will be good...

[@exodus3113]

Subservience Raum with bloodbath is nasty

[@Brzzzyexe]

well with bomb king arent his bombs ability damage? with lillith having meditate you're really playing behind cover and trying not to get shot though

[@oddzzyy5649]

a lot of new play styles without changing specific player cards or abilities

[@Vova-mq5wy]

Hmm, very, very interesting

[@CyanDumBell_MC]

A lot of these new items need to be heavily tested because it can busted on a lot of characters

[@Im0zz_e]

you can technically farm elims on seris for example by just heal botting, they're technically assist but count as elims. does that mean that bloodbath will count on her? cause if so holy shit thats fucking good, 1200 total heal without caut without having to do really anything different to a healbot style

[@goofyahhh254]

when is this being released

[@kusolp544]

is raum heal or only his armor gain caut-free?

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

while i dont think this will kill the balance it will change it significantly sadly i cant play on pts bc of my connection but i do hope the devs balance things as needed and dont go overboard with the nerf or buff(like they use to do when balancing champions)

[@azraelvonkonor2041]

Test suport raum sentinel and bloodbath

[@abduktedtemplar]

Overwatch Goats meta incoming to Paladins with all these shield buffs

[@GabeWatchesAnime]

Hmm i wonder, Field Study Torv Pocket+Furia Ult PLUS Trigger Scent??? HOW MUCH DAMAGE WOULD Kinessa or Strix do???

[@Jazzmofo]

can raum tank a drogoz ult?

[@dza_kicuf]

What if they changed Trigger Scent to negate DR instead of giving flat damage boost? Then it would be strong against tanks like Azaan, and Yago but not two shot squishies.

[@KIABOSS-vh7bn]

Bro imagine a furia ULT + Trigger Scent + Ult Tyra........Andrew u gotta test out that combo

[@kabirjain4692]

this changed the game bro

[@nml5317]

I have always been confused by the flank class as they are more efficient to deal DMG than actual dmg. Then now they give us this.

[@ImSquiggs]

The DPS class is usually more suited to dealing constant damage, where flank can deal larger damage for shorter periods due to bursty skills that need cooldowns. Flanks are also usually more mobile and squishy. I usually see the DPS classes getting more overall damage in games, and the flanks getting more last-hit kills, because the DPS is sweeping through everyone with that sweet constant pressure while the flanks dive in and pick off anyone they get down low enough.

[@Arch-Luster]

I want to see what I can go whit this and ma koga. :)

[@Donkne]

I'm not coming back till Imani gets un-nerfed and significantly buffed Good video though, I support you

[@e3nnsar]

u should had tried buck w the scent card and ensnare headshot to se the dmg and the heal on the card lol

[@moskiller6713]

Does any buddy know whether or no not skye confound card is working as intended. I was in training with max chronos, max posioner and max confound and it took me three posion bolt shoots for my 1 smoke screen bomb to come off cooldown but if I where to throw both of my smoke screen bombs at the same time, I get am instantly if I where to spam off cooldown.

[@godlyvex5543]

it probably has a cooldown on the card, did you check that

[@moskiller6713]

@@godlyvex5543 no it does not have an internal cooldown like emergency exit. Also Caspian has a card similar to skye and also has two charges in base kit. So it doesn't make sense that Caspian works but not Skye.

[@DJJordG]

Not a fan of that one item affecting ults mainly because the only fun thing to do with jenos is spawn ulting, plus I feel some other ults will suffer a lot

[@reeceblackburn7158]

I'm scared of steady aim Kinessa being able to one shot anyone who's not a tank, while using trigger scent.

[@ThePanPanda11]

I'm not sure you cover it, but with the Kill To Heal jenos example, does buying rejuv increase that burst healing the other person is getting? Also if both players buy it would it proc twice being 1200 healing?

[@jakeislavic3024]

Rejuv donst increase the healing that other players get, if both player have BB the player who got the kill will get that juicy 1200 healing but the player who did the assist will get only 600

[@ThePanPanda11]

@jakeislavic3024 it procs on Elimination right? So both players are getting an elim so wouldn't both get the 1200?

[@GabeWatchesAnime]

Im learning ALOT About life rip here, i never knew these things about life rip like what kinds of cards stack well with them

[@davidmorales7371]

These changes are on purpose, in the sense that they must be in preparation for another change(s) coming in the near future.

[@NoxHelios]

Now guardian is not really overtuned but rather wrecker being at a higher price making it harder to get, and don't cry to me saying this item makes you buy wrecker each game, we been doing that with fernando makoa nyx for a while it's not news, what news is the matches will be a bit longer and team fights will rely on much more strategic planning rather than rushing for kills, torvald isn't as great as you made it sound, a good fix I suggest for this whole shields situation is to add diminishing return for shields just like how we have it for life rip and reload speed, this will hopefully not only fix torv but fix all shields, we NEED 5 slot for items 4 don't cut it because of haven and resilience split, tune down armor plating, a fun idea slightly buff moral boost chronos and nimble just slightly to make it so other items don't be as instant buy, hoard item is actually fine and it working in spawn makes sense to me and isn't overpowered, bloodbath is actually very bad for its price and in comparison to other healing items, veteran is good, meditation is amazing specially for flanks and off tanks, trigger scent or whatever the name is fine in term of of percentage it adds, nerf duration from 5s to 4s and more price to it cause it's too cheap, bulldozer needs an additional effect or still no one will buy it more dmg to deployables don't cut it for taking an item slot, idea for an effect could be adding ammo count scaling from 3/6/9 per tier, that's all for the item store, now pls anyone who read until here give this feed back to the devs via discord or the forms , since I currently can't/unable to sadly

[@nightknight7748]

I am quite intrested but you know 100% fights are going to be longer

[@jakeislavic3024]

they made a lot of items cheaper, but didnt add the 5th item slot smh

[@anyaluvs]

idk i’m not seeing how illuminate works in base kit. how are you supposed to play an invis character when you’re not even completely invis

[@godlyvex5543]

you already had illuminate in base kit, this just increases the range

[@Aamon-Synxt]

30:07 even Cassie know how broken it is😂

[@Thenarratorofsecrets]

honestly im ok with flanks not wanting kill to heal. they're already high up on the annoying meter. hate getting them down to 5% hp and watching them get a full uncauterized heal back to full.

[@AlejandroGonzalez-fl3hq]

So basically, tanks are broken now?

[@thumbs9829]

Make meditation shorten the time out of combat needed to heal

[@feplays007]

Technically it's a completely different game now, there are other gameplay strategies to get used to. 🤯

[@mrsmith5114]

Not a fan of the changes. I scratch my head now when some people buy illuminate when there is no stealth on the other team.

[@Mr.Mc_Stab13y]

bloodbath + corvus + double mark trait= spawncamping atlas buff (yknow exactly who im talking about)

[@AK70FORYOU]

Now all Lillith players have to do is to not have enemies walk in Swarm or take damage

[@joshelderkin9592]

Pts doesnt support controlers 😭😭 i was so excited

[@ANewEvilRising]

i know its in pts so theres still balancing to do but history as shown things arent always balanced the way they should be once making into official. this would make things not strategic and instead make it about raw power aided by the new OP items.

[@plat6164]

Subservience Raum gives everyone Bloodbath. :)

[@joshelderkin9592]

Nothing is ever gojng to die

[@Zebrix10]

This NEW store is gonna be scary for new players and low ranks because now u have split cc and hard cc item and Abbility or weapon dmg items, for me its not that complicated but i have 430+H so im very used to how every champ works and u know which ones focus on abilities an whose on weapon

[@yopierewannacomeouthere]

Sooo, new item tier list? xD

[@mikesimmerman4457]

Yall are negative already saying it gonna be bad when patch is not dropping for almost 2weeks

[@yabbadabbindude]

Cause we're smart enough to simulate

[@Kk385]

Don’t understand why this change now with so few players. AFK will be no1 pick lol. They removed choices from 4 to 3, said it was to many and confusing, had blast shields and more crap way back in the day, all taken away. Now they split items up add more rows and make overwatch battles. I’m tired even now of the 1hp to full heal garbage that is already present.

[@wlaba272]

It looks like they gonna loose more people after those changes. It's unballanced as fuck, I can bare it and have fun but tons of people are going to abandon the game ands the player count goes down from 8000 to 2000... and game will be dead.

[@Filippo739]

Meditation Lilith is a big smoke in the eyes. Sure it's powerful, but completely useless if Lilith takes or deal damage. One can counter this by simply attacking her occasionally for even one damage or stepping spontaneously in her circle for just half a second. It's powerful, but I believe not that practical.

[@yabbadabbindude]

I despise these items changes. I'm going to have to explain everything over and over and have to micromanage my friends who only play this game casually and don't follow the patches. So many unintuitive decisions and arbitrary things made esoteric for new players

[@DarkBoo007]

Mediation gonna be my go-to as Inara. Most of the time, I can retreat and go out of combat with her so that healing will be excellent (Especially when my healer dies)

[@shambo1650]

I appreciate the devs putting more time and effort into paladins, but this is not the way. this isn’t going to be good

[@mikesimmerman4457]

You don't even know it hasn't even dropped this is just the ptr patch drops like 2 weeks from now

[@shambo1650]

so healers are useless, got it

[@mikesimmerman4457]

He didn't say that he just in shooting range

[@yabbadabbindude]

Support gonna get farmed so hard

[@linmayo790]

just another reason to pick AOE dps since 99% of the flanks are just weapon.