Klipsch Soundbar - SHOULD YOU WAIT? Klipsch Cinema 1200 Review

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

✅ 🛒 *Klipsch Cinema 1200: **bit.ly/3hLUGzB**, **amzn.to/3a9hdp1* ★ *UPDATE: 8/31/21: The expected 8/30 app update has been delayed. The release of the update is now TBD.* ★ *QOTD: If you were Klipsch, what would you have done?* ★ *ADDITIONAL INFO IN THE DESCRIPTION⬆︎ UPDATED PRICE $1,899* ★ *COMMENT RULES: Please be respectful. No outside links, URLs, email addresses, etc. Violations are automatically deleted.*

[@davidthanos]

They should've waited for the app to be updated. It feels like a rushed product. I was so looking forward for them to be up there with the big boys.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@@davidthanos Maybe in a month (or two) they will be able to be more competitive. I'm hoping they are with the update!

[@movie_av_impulse]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews I just feel sound bars just never live up to the hype. I feel in my personal opinion you can buy the $800 klipsch Costco speaker set up find a dolby atoms $600 receiver and get better quality and sound for what klipsch is charging. I just don't understand the fact companies get to scam people with hopes,dreams and promises they never deliver. P.S... Kristi we love your bonus content.

[@SeanVedell]

I put my money down on this back in April based on the overwhelmingly positive reviews of the 600 model and a hope that Klipsch would just keep that winning formula and ramp it up to make this the Godzilla of sound bars. Maybe it’ll work in my room but I’m already disappointed and I haven’t even got a shipping notice yet. Klipsch made us wait this long. Another couple of weeks or a month would have been fine for the thing to be really finished. BUT, waiting longer would only have been tolerable if Klipsch had decided to be transparent about their issues with customers. I’m talking Kickstarter level openness. Even bad news is better than no news. Wonder if I can cancel my order still. Your review has me quite nervous now.

[@KristiWright]

@@SeanVedell Just curious - did you buy direct or from a retailer? I guess it doesn't matter either way but I'm wondering if you got any notices about the product being delayed? Like even a "we haven't forgotten about you" at a minimum...

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Hey everyone! So the price of the Cinema 1200, as expected, has increased to $1,699. So the $1,499 quoted in this review is now not correct. Sorry for the confusion. We were not informed of the price change until after we finished the review. It happens. Thanks for watching!

[@lilreider]

I was super excited about this when it was announced last year. I had been burned by Samsung and LG soundbars in the past with dropouts from the wireless rear speakers, along with poor product support (they come out with new models every year and stop supporting the previous years $1,500+ sound bar shockingly fast). I decided to set up a dedicated Klipsch 5.1.2 system in my living room instead and was blown away with the results. It’s a bummer to see Klipsch miss the mark here, but I guess the silver lining is that they still offer some other really nice options. Thanks for the honest review and keep up the good work!

[@joshdekubber3631]

Looks like Forte iv's also went from 4500 to 5K. Still totally worth it to me though

[@Elad1369]

great, less features...umm let's hike the price up another $200...klipsch reps said they were afraid of bad media....well here it comes...if anything they should drop they price and charge for the app next year when they might fix it.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Oof...that's a lot. If shipping fees have gone up, I'm sure the heavier products are going to get the bigger price increases. Can't wait to start seeing all the "you got the price wrong!" on all of our older Klipsch content followed by "you should update your video!". Cuz it's that simple. HAHA.

[@joshdekubber3631]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Well good news for me I just spent over an hour on the phone talking to higher-ups at Audio Advice and they agreed to honor the old price for me since I've been trying to put a deal together for the last couple days. So my order is in on the Fortes and Anthem MRX 1140. Now I just have to order the SB-3000'S from SVS. I really hope your affiliate link worked and you get some kind of credit that you have very well-deserved. I'm nervous though because when they honored the lower price they gave me a new cart to check out.

[@KristiWright]

*HEADS UP GUYS* It has been brought to our attention that Klipsch will be increasing prices on Monday (that's tomorrow 7/19/21) due to higher shipping costs. So if you've been thinking about purchasing a Klipsch product, you might want to do it today and save a little $$. FTR, we did not know this prior to filming this video so if you are watching this in the future, we did not get the price wrong. It changed. Anyway, for those of you here with me in the present, you can get your Klipsch on here: Shop Klipsch here: bit.ly/3xQU8Oa And here: bit.ly/2TnfZhs And here: bit.ly/2Tmmf8Z And here: bit.ly/3euHsFn And here: amzn.to/3rgIkT9

[@SteveL11]

I ended up getting a Samsung Q950A 3 days ago for $1150 with $150 gift card on Amazon. The Klipsch just doesn't seem worth it.

[@joshdekubber3631]

Do you by chance have an affiliate link with Audio Advice?? I really like their customer service and have been planning to order my entire new system from them? As soon as the last component is in stock. If not feel free to delete this

[@KristiWright]

@@joshdekubber3631 Yes, it's the one above that ends in ....8Z. :)

[@KristiWright]

@@SteveL11 We still have the Q950A and enjoy it very much. Solid, reliable, and sounds great. The OP was more of a general note for those who have maybe been eyeing a Klipsch product so they could save a little money.

[@joshdekubber3631]

@@KristiWright Found it!! I'll make sure to use that link when I pull the trigger on the new system! Do you buy chance have an affiliate link With SVS directly? I was planning on getting dual sb-3000's from svs because they told me that's the only way to be eligible for their trade up program

[@mikeb.2925]

People who want simple and basic don't spend $1500 on a soundbar. They spend $200. People spending $1500 on a soundbar want customization and adjustability. That's what the premium is for.

[@KristiWright]

Good morning! Thanks for joining us today.

[@AJL713]

Hey Kristi, just wanna say you’re dope :) I love your input at the end of the videos

[@KristiWright]

@@AJL713 Thank you, Alberto!! That is really nice of you to say. :)

[@Audiomainia2310]

Good Morning Kristi - always love your follow ups / you and Drew are the most honest reviewers on KZbin, and I so appreciate that big time!

[@KristiWright]

@@Audiomainia2310 We appreciate you watching! thank you :)

[@westcoast708]

good morning guys awesome review.

[@eruilluvitar]

As a software engineer - not even CEO of Klipsch, but just a regular software engineer - Klipsch should have been releasing small app updates this whole time and continuously adding functionality.

[@TylerStout]

I agree as a software developer as well, even put stuff as beta settings that you have to opt into for them to show up. I know for at least android you can even distribute updates via a beta channel that the user can opt into. However if they were writing a new app from the ground up instead of building off of what they have the whole continuously adding wouldn't work until that core of the new app is finished. That's assuming the old and new apps would be different platforms that you couldn't update together from one base of code. Honestly based on looking at the screenshots from the review the app looks extremely primitive in design so it's possible the new app is significantly different but if it's not there's no excuse except they need to hire some sort of developer or better devs as there's no excuse as to why some stuff isn't there for a product already out.

[@SeanVedell]

@@TylerStout Or they could get a bunch of High School coding classes to build it for them. I'm not saying I could do it but it isn't so hard that they should have such a crappy app and not have been able to make it work well by now. Making it communicate with their hardware may be another story and an area the entire company is new to. Well, time to learn fast Klipsch. I just spent the last 18 months reinventing how K-12 education works with iPads when you take away the physical classroom so Klipsch making their app work shouldn't be impossible.

[@zeroelus]

@@SeanVedell I'm kind of late to the party on this one (bought some Fives and I'm happy with them, but was wondering about the app) and with Andrew's update after 8/30 about "internal staffing shortages" it just sounds like whatever they had going on that team jumped ship in the current (developer friendly) job market and they can't seem to attract the talent they need. Anyways, hope they straighten that out, there's so much potential there, and it's only going to hurt them more and more being this late to the game.

[@KristiWright]

I'm still recovering from the fact that Andrew uses a pasta noodle to test if a cake is done baking. 😅

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I'm not nuts. And it's dried pasta, so it's no different than a toothpick.

[@joshdekubber3631]

Not sure what's cookin but I'll give it a go!😋

[@KristiWright]

where the heck are my replies going???

[@Neojhun]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Wow that's actually a good functional idea.

[@davidthanos]

I thought that's what I heard. I did a double take when I heard. Don't let him near the kitchen, who knows what else he does. 🤣

[@SirMovies101]

I've only been waiting for this review for the longest. FINALLYYYY!!!

[@JuniorDH25]

Are you going to review the Sony HT-A7000 soundbar and Sony HT-A9 surround sound speakers?

[@jordanhoffman1785]

I really wish Sonos would send you a full 5.2.4 Arc setup to review. For me personally, I feel like I finally found a soundbar setup comparable to it's (5.2.4) traditional surround counterpart that is so close to being equal. I have spent so much damn money on soundbars (stupid on my part) over the years hoping to have that "ah ha!" moment that I about gave up. The Sonos gets so close if not hits it on the head to give me that emmersive experience that does a superb job on both movies and music. I would love to hear your take on the Sonos compared to all of these other high end brands/models. Here's to hoping they will eventually get onboard with you reviewing their product! Thanks for the great reviews. Love all of the information.

[@mosesmay]

It would be interesting to see how the Sonos system would compare to the Klipsch cinema 1200 even if it was only the arc with 5.1.2 it’s an expensive setup but everyone I talk to recommends it. And the ease of setup with the app almost a no brainer

[@garretts431]

@@mosesmay the sonos set up, surprisingly, does a good job at giving the pseudo-rear upfiring speaker sound. lighting and thunderstorms sound above you and all around.

[@bulldog1176]

Thank you Andrew and Kristi. I have been waiting for this since the Klipsch "Bar 54a" at CES 2019, yes 2019. Two and a half years should have made this flagship the "hold my beer" statement you described. Sadly it feels like someone at corporate decided this product needed to start recouping costs, ready or not. Often times these products get abandoned in favor of a V2 that leaves the early adopters behind. At this point I think I'll wait some more. I have no complaints about my current big bar (2014 Vizio S5451w-C2 - a beast for its time) I just wanted the Cinema 1200 to be so good it could forcefully take my money. I look forward to your update if Klipsch actually pushes out improvements. Thanks for an honest review as always!

[@cwescrab]

I also am glad you didn't delay the review more. This soundbar took longer than it should have to come out.

[@joshdekubber3631]

KRISTI, I'm so sorry that you are continually getting disrespected for not being on camera. It's extremely disturbing and appalling that this continues to happen. I know your tough and you can handle it, BUT NOT OK PEOPLE. I hope you don't get discouraged in anyway. The very large majority of us appreciate you so much for your extremely valuable portion of these videos. I just don't understand people. I totally respect your decision to not be on camera and I'm so thankful for the voice that is Kristi! I hope you always know how important and appreciated you are. Andrew and you make an amazing TEAM together as is!

[@DESIGNS-vo1mt]

Was this mentioned somewhere in the video?

[@KristiWright]

This means a lot to me. Thank you. 😍

[@joshdekubber3631]

@@KristiWright You're very welcome Kristi.

[@armandorancano6415]

I do not see why there is conflict. There is a very easy solution for those who object to her being off camera as she delivers her comments. Stop the video after Andrew finishes. It is her choice whether she wants to appear on camera or not. It is the viewers choice to watch or not.

[@Follygons]

Maybe her preference 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Roller71]

This is my only Bell. Never gone this far. Great content, great questions, great system duo of personalities and backgrounds. Definitely brings the review into the real world.

[@VanDammage87]

How does a bar that cost this much and to come from an "Audio" company not have DTS & DTS:X decoding when the majority of its competitors have it for less? It boggles the mind. 🤯

[@ben23a31]

Andrew, kudos to you for calling out the major flaws for us !!! I thought, wow did he really call out B&W on their 602's ? I was extremely pleased that you had the wal-Nuts to do it. Most reviewers won't say anything to that degree or chicken out and not put out a review. Big ups dude !

[@Harry-Giles]

Agree with Kristi the auto room EQ might be the sweet spot for what their customer wants. Regardless, you usually need to make some adjustments to any sub in any room. When you get those peaks or nulls it sounds terrible. Completely agree with you. Great review.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I totally agree!

[@danielthompson4865]

Well I cancelled my Klipsch Cinema 1200 preorder and ordered the Samsung Q950A this morning. Thank you for the transparent and unbiased reviews!

[@MrOgynist]

Re. The Klipsch response. This is a different circumstance because their response will be blasted to all of the viewers. But, that is a common refrain when I've raised concerns about products to providers. "Huh, we've had no complaints." Me: "You just got one."

[@Jason-mk3nn]

I love Klipsch, but I agree. Sometimes, Klipsch's attitude is like that of some audiophiles. Thank you, Andrew for calling them out to be better. Not just because they are more than capable, but also for the fact that the arrogance sounds like an excuse to let brash replace what could be brilliance. I was very impressed at how you called them out, by calling out the features, or lack thereof. You judged them by their actions, while allowing the abilities to be as we know they can be to remain intact. Great writing and great review.

[@mosessupposes2571]

Nothing guarantees my exit faster than companies/reps who give a smart aleck answer because they don’t have a legitimate answer to a specific question. The no apology line is cheesy to decidedly cringeworthy - not at all what one would expect from an audio company.

[@Ilikeloudmusic]

I got one on facebook marketplace for $200. Thank you Andrew for the so-so review for helping these sell for so cheap. All of your complaints about the the app have been fixed. This thing is by far the best $200 I have spent in a long time. Now to decide what to keep Sonos ARC with dual subs or this. I like the volume display is this enough to keep it?

[@brandonpaul6186]

I’ll give Klipsch until the end of August before making my decision.

[@keithculpepper1152]

So, I've watched a few of your videos now and I have to say, this has to be one of the best review videos I've ever seen. I love how you interact back and forth with your wife discussing what both of you think and how you feel about the product and how the delay in the app update is keeping it from being a solid 10/10 product. I don't say this because I am a big Klipsch fan boy, but because your format is fantastic. Please keep up the good work!

[@Chosen_Juan]

This soundbar is now down to $999. Have the sub issues been worked out yet? Is this a good buy at that price?

[@jeroldabell6949]

I purchased the Klipsch Cinema 600 after your review and I love it. However, the subwoofer was very dominant for the first month. After burn in they're fine.

[@fades1122]

Andrew, I know you reviewed this soundbar over a year ago. But given the fact of the software upgrades I believe it is worthwhile for an updated review if at all possible. I say this because since the February update it is a much better setup and at its new reduced costs it might need a mention. Again, just my two cents

[@saotorii]

For me, between the app functionality being there to tune bass properly and the price, it's pretty damn good value

[@3ALmansoori]

What is your recommendation of best sound dialogue bar you have tested. Please recommend some

[@mlajesse]

Will you do an update video when the app is updated?? I was looking forward to this product.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

YES.

[@brunan-gi147]

Picked up Samsung Q950a on sale for $1299 last week and was keeping it in the box until the Klipsch reviews came in. Well, I just unpacked it and set it up and very happy with its performance so far. Samsung owns JBL and Harman so they used their know how in this bar. Sounds very good and fairly customizable. I do wish it had 8k HDMI ports but my new TV has them, so no big loss. Lets see what Klipsch will do next year...

[@immahmood97]

Hi Andrew, thank you for the great review video. Please, also do a comparison video between Klipsch 1200, Samsung Q950A and Sonos ARC from functionality to overall sound experience.

[@adonellis6453]

Your reviews of Klipsch have been nothing but amazing and because of me buying a couple of their products I have feel in love with them thank you Andrew

[@kaihekoareichwein9392]

Why no comparison to the Sonos Arc system?

[@KristiWright]

Because we haven’t heard it despite requests for a review unit.

[@Mart.van.Male1]

@@KristiWright would love to hear your guy's opinion on the ARC, the Sonos sub and generally the Sonos ecosystem. Let's hope Sonos can supply u with some review units.

[@aapjeisbaas]

Would love a review of the Sonos arc, they are awesome in the software department. Where clearly this wasn’t the best experience.

[@aapjeisbaas]

I would maybe even consider pairing it with the sub and the new ikea symfonisk wall painting speakers for rears because of limited space behind my couch.

[@inick122492]

Been waiting for you specifically to talk about this!!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

How'd we do?

[@inick122492]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews On point, i have been waiting to hear about it cuz I love Klipsch but I guess samsung might be the better option. good stuff!!

[@Crowleywild]

Thank you for this. I already saw one review on it today, but I know yours will be better.

[@richlandzee8686]

From another youtuber? Who?

[@Crowleywild]

@@richlandzee8686 audio advice.

[@ben23a31]

Wonder how it stacks up against the new Sony HT-A9 system ? Can that be on your list of reviews Andrew?

[@dicktater9637]

And if I may, add the new and more traditional Sony HT-A7000 to Andrew's review. Unfortunately, both the HT-A9 and the HT-A7000 are "coming soon." Let's hope Sony does that better than Klipsch.

[@rsolsjo]

"And we definitely won't apologize for making kick ass, best-in-class subwoofers." I love Klipsch, they're so American. 😂

[@majadito1985]

Sounds like Trumpers

[@rsolsjo]

@@majadito1985 Haha sadly it kind of does. "I'll make whatever mistakes I want and brag about it!"

[@joshdekubber3631]

Good morning Andrew & Kristi! I bet the klipsch C-310aswi subwoofer would pair well and the Klipsch low control app works really great for the sub! If I was in the market for something like this I'd go for the Fives over sound bar. To your question: If I was Klipsch I'd definitely wait

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I haven't played with that low control app Josh. (I honestly didn't know it existed) Good to know. Thanks for joining us today!

[@KristiWright]

Morning, Josh! Thanks for joining us!

[@joshdekubber3631]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews I'd be happy to loan you my C310aswi sub if you want. It's barely been used. For a small 10" sub it's surprisingly impressive for sound and build quality

[@joshdekubber3631]

@@KristiWright My pleasure! Alway look forward to it!

[@erichoehn8262]

I love your “real world” approach to reviews. Your focus on reality is much appreciated.

[@garretts431]

is there a reason why you dont buy the sonos arc setup and return it after reviewing it?

[@p3030134]

"Hey Klipsch, how come you didn't allow for more control? Asking for a friend..." Klipsch: "WEEEEE SHALL NOOOOOT APOLOGIZE DAMMIT" um....... ok.

[@KristiWright]

KLIPSCH: I said what I said!! 😂 We still love 'em.

[@p3030134]

@@KristiWright just going through your segment! The conversation after is the best part of the review as it's raw and you guys are always honest.

[@KristiWright]

@@p3030134 I'm so happy to know that you enjoy it! For us, we find it far more interesting TBH.

[@davidthanos]

@@KristiWright we need an episode where you're in front of the camera and Andrew behind.

[@itsfilipbitch5545]

@@KristiWright "I SAID WHAT I SAID" IM DEAD HAHAHAHA

[@jackbullock2580]

Hey just wondering do you think pole audio is a good brand , their bass is nice?

[@lgans316]

Lack of DTS support is puzzling. Happy with my Samsung Q950A which replaced my separates and LG SN11. Fully immersive, tight and controlled bass. Yes, I would like to the bass to dig below 29 Hz but it's an excellent sound system.

[@andykillsu]

👋

[@nick_ji]

I was hesitant to buy q950a because of Klipsch Cinema 1200 but bought the Samsung after seeing this video! Sounds great and love the integration with my Samsung TV, ease of setup and auto eq...etc. If I had bigger space or dedicated room for home theater setup w/ a receiver Klipsch would definitely on the list to consider for sure.

[@feelgeorge]

Another interesting and excellent review. To answer your question. I would prefer a fully functional product with the app working alongside the product. As a consumer, I want to know the full strength and weaknesses of a product before I make that vital decision to buy. It's like ordering a Pizza and getting only 50% of the topping when you have paid for a whole pizza. Klipsch is basically saying you can order a whole pizza now and get 50% topping or you "might" get 100% topping in a months time for the same price. That's a poor management decision

[@KristiWright]

and now I want pizza.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I like the pizza analogy. Appreciate you weighing in!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@@KristiWright we had pizza last night, there's some in the fridge.

[@KristiWright]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews I know this :)

[@MichalPalczewski]

The bar sounds like it's awesome! Nice powerful sub, intelligible voices. No microphone to position and calibrate, just plug it in. I like the philosophy of not having to eq. What's not so awesome are the amazon reviews and reddit comments. Too many people are having trouble getting sound to come out, or having a buzzing, or hdmi issues, it sounds like the electronics are frequently failing. Also too bad that it doesn't come without the rear speakers, I don't want more things to clutter up my living room. I love listening to music and feeling the bass, and really would like to hear the dialogue in videos/movies/shows.

[@twitchmania7614]

I think you hit the nail on the head when your said klipsch is an oldschool speaker company. I believe they just don't have experience nor the people to make a good functioning app and to give their soundbars all the cool up to date tech that every other company has. And thats gonna seriously hurt their venture into the sound bar market.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I feel like as long as they deliver the app when promised, they'll be fine. If further delays to the app result, yeah...that's gonna be a tough pill for customers to swallow.

[@peterh7575]

they can hire a few software engineers if they want to be in this business.

[@sashcooper666]

I don‘t like Soundbars, I‘m not in the market for one and I definitely don’t like Klipsch. But I watched anyway, because I enjoy your videos so much! Especially what Kristy has to say! Keep up the good work and I‘m looking forward to the next livestream!

[@JSwaid]

Lack of DTS:X (or any DTS) support is a non-starter for many people (including me). The early spec's were very appealing, not so much now.

[@4leafclover243]

No kidding for 1500 no DTS:X!!!!🤦🤦

[@darkhelmet3784]

Yeah no shit that was going to be the selling point guess ill wait for a sound bar that is

[@darkhelmet3784]

Remote is avrg for such a premium product

[@bigdaddydean71]

Do you have plans to review a WISA Klipsch system? Or just what do you think about them?

[@mattmoffitt5912]

This was a great review. I'm looking forward to some extra details in the future when you have the PS5 and the app is updated.

[@isaacberry1769]

I agree they should have waited until they had a complete app and then launched the 1200. Haste makes waste! The Fives are awesome and I purchased them based upon your review. Thanks Andrew! Awesome job. Looking for a sub to pair with the Fives, any suggestions?

[@cyriljohnson9634]

I'm sad now. This was almost like finding out Santa and the Easter bunny aren't real. 😔😔

[@TheGjergj79]

Or the Tooth Fairy

[@Takeonwilds]

Thanks Andrew & Kristi - love your content! Something I have been looking for, for a long, loooong time is a review of speakers, which give the best Sound at low volume. Have you covered such a topic before? Otherwise, hope you will in the future 😁🙌

[@stevewright1539]

Looking at the price, I don’t see any reason you should buy this over the Samsung. Either some companies weren’t expecting the competition in features with other companies or they didn’t see the leaps in features that are now being provided and should be expected at a given price point.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I can neither confirm nor deny that I let Klipsch know the same exact thing when reaching out for comment about this bar.

[@ericyum6729]

Andrew Robinson, if, say, the 1200 comes with a sub that allow you to tune like the svs, is it good enough that you will recommend it?

[@bomb_and_gouge]

Your technical knowledge combined with realistic use scenarios makes your reviews, by far, the most interesting reviews. I feel confident that I have all the information I need and the bonus conversation is the frosting. This tells me how the product is to own. After watching the 950A review I thought to myself, THAT is what I want. Effortlessly being able to watch high quality content in my living room and no more fuzz.

[@ΣΥΜΕΩΝΖΑΙΡΗΣ]

Hello Andrew and Kristi Simon from Greece loved your live stream because I am between buying this klipsch sound bar or the Samsung q9Oa I would much appreciate your thoughts on the klipsch app when it comes out maybe on a live stream or another video and if you could please talk about the lack of DTS and dtsx on the klipsch and maybe a way to get it from your TV 4K player or streamer thank you

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We will be taking a 2nd look at this bar when the App is finished.

[@JeffreyParsons]

Reviews like this are a bummer to see, but ultimately help your audience trust all of your content. Nice work.

[@jamescaruso6564]

Thank you for the excellent review. What would you say is a best in class wireless home theater setup?

[@andrewjeffery4279]

Andrew is the Klipsch CINEMA 1200 worth the sale price of $799 on the Klipsch website right now?

[@armandoyepez8473]

yes its a bargain right now

[@MrCobrarey]

Yes, it's I got mine like 3 days ago, and finally, this time is working perfectly, not like last year.

[@roeunlan]

I just ordered mine about 30 minutes ago. I can't wait to pair it to my Sony 75inch x90k.

[@Lar-j4k]

where is / was on sale for $799? I see refurb for that much. Did you buy?

[@Kubs777]

Do not buy... I like many have tons of issues. I paid close to $2K and it's been a nightmare. When it randomly works it sounds great... It's not worth the time, headache or money

[@gregcrezee4071]

I love the fact they actually have an rca out, so I can add my own subs. I only wish they'd sell the unit without their sub.

[@LordChristopherSnow]

Just subscribed - loved your review of the Lascala's. Regarding the Klipsch 1200 soundbar - you did not compare to the Sonos ARC + 1's + their sub. Seems an obvious comparison; would love to hear your feedback. I'm looking to get rid of my home theatre preamp _ active speaker combo in favor of a simpler setup (for movies only). Seems to me that the home theatre reciever is dying in favor of smarter devices, but I still haven't found a solution up to the task. The SONOS comes really close - you can use in wall Sonance speakers in combination with the ARC and the sub, but you need a new TV (HMDI eARC) and still no DTS... The AMBEO from Sennheiser is not expandable (no option for dedicated rear or height channels). There is still not a true audiophile solution to bypass the old school home theatre receiver. I was hoping this sounder was it, but no deal. Thoughts? Thanks again for a great channel.

[@garretts431]

i have the ambeo in a 10x11 room with a PC-2000 subwoofer. the sound quality is superb - even without rears you would be hard-pressed to say you have to return the item because you miss the rears. i also have a full sonos arc setup in my family room which is about 20x15 and it sounds awesome. the dynamics is where the ambeo wins with loud noises resulting in extreme details such as glass shattering or cars smashing into each other, and of course horror movies with stringy violins playing loudly and abruptly. this is not to say the sonos arc is bad in any way - just not on the exact level but still very passable.

[@dicktater9637]

The Ambeo is currently $500.00 off, rumor has it that is because it's going to get a significant update, e.g. eARC, a sub connection, Apple AirPlay2, etc. After this HUGE 2 year letdown from Klipsch I would consider buying an updated Ambeo...

[@garretts431]

@@dicktater9637 ambeo already has sub connection and eArc?

[@AMEX-15]

Is it better than sennheiser ambeo soundbar max?

[@karthikeyanar2207]

I enjoyed this review especially on highlighting the lack of controls to better manage the overall dynamics and what could be better. Would you like to compare the sound quality of Klipsch cinema 1200 vs Sonos ARC? Since Sonos arc being one of the best options available in soundbars category, I would look forward for comparison review. Thanks!

[@karthikeyanar2207]

I noticed adjusting sub-woofer volume from remote in Klipsch manual. Would it be enough to balance sub boom effect?

[@xxshexx]

Glad i made the right choice with The Fives after i watched your review on The Fives instead of sitting on fence, waiting for Cinema 1200 with big potential disappointment Klipsch needs to focus more on improving the Connect App with more progressive and faster turnaround updates in order to attract customers that wanted a simple setup with their TV. That's the real ease of customer journey when i can have all the settings on my phone and always able to know what was my settings. I too was thinking why do i even install this Klipsch Connect when it's not even giving me ANYTHING to control the Fives.

[@dalstar925]

I sent mine back because of that same lack of control I was promised.

[@JonahMatthes]

Great review! Very honest about the shortcomings here, thank you for that. Hopefully, Klipsch can step up their software game soon!

[@bharathsekar2203]

Honestly, I can't believe no one else but you were spot on about the Q950a's subwoofer inconsistencies. In many movie scenes mine just goes to sleep. I mean, Isn't that a bummer? How can other reviewers just not acknowledge this?

[@JonahMatthes]

@@bharathsekar2203 I think it’s a lot to do with the room acoustics and what exactly you’re watching (the media player as well). Could be that Samsung has some inconsistencies with manufacturing as well, but I’m not sure. There were lots of mixed opinions on the subwoofer.

[@bharathsekar2203]

@@JonahMatthes thanks for taking time to respond. The room acoustics make sense. To be fair, I used apple tv 4k passthrough to my LG OLED via ARC. I used thr dame setup and compared it with the JBL 9.1. I agree that I can't expect the same boom because JBL one being a 10inch sub, but the Samsung would be really quiet in many a scenes (mandalorian end credits, Netflix formula 1 engine noise during race scenes etc) . I guess your manufacturing comment makes sense. Thanks again for the response. My search for the perfect soundbar continues.... Will definitely give the klipsch 1200 a try when I am able to grab one!

[@tctterry]

Hi Jonah, are you aware of Philip Fidelio B97? So far I haven’t seen anyone give a proper review on it in the KZbin. Will love to listen to your opinion.

[@KristiWright]

@@bharathsekar2203 it could be they haven’t experienced it. Not everything is a conspiracy or coverup.

[@kojak99100]

I’m guessing Dolby paid Klipsch a bundle to leave out support for DTS. Otherwise I can’t understand why DTS is not included. I was so wanting the 1200 to be great … but no DTS means no sale.

[@christiankansichi6622]

I will get it next year when it's half off. Then it will be worth it.

[@garretts431]

no soundbar is worth full price - but just depends on how badly you need it right then and there.

[@gx12]

What are the best soundbars with 4K 120hz pass through?

[@Elad1369]

ok got mine today....ummmm noway was bass too loud....I had to check 2 times to make sure it was connected....I have carpet with high quality padding. maybe they adjusted it after your review? so far loving this thing...it doesn't scroll signal type...so I hope it's reading true atmos...yes it is a huge sub. But in my house your review was way off.

[@bharathsekar2203]

Yup, Klipsch put the embargo on further reviews and did firmware updates on all orders with audioadvice and Crutchfield. Glad to hear the sub sounds good. I'm still waiting for mine!

[@ninjabic]

Do you know when the embargo is up?

[@Elad1369]

it's for sale right now at audio advice..it only took like 3 days to get mine via fed ex. I have no idea if klipsch is blocking content on an item you can currently get. here are some cons after 2 weeks. 1- does not display decoding...ie atmos, true HD, dolby surround..etc. 2. I was surprised to have to turn up unit past 30 to really hear it. 3. no crossover adjustment for bass 4. when you power off everything the led lights on back of speakers blink, in standby mode. 5. does not pass through 4k 120 hrz or 4k HDR 120 hrz for xbox x or ps5 according to xbox system check it does sound great and fills the room nicely and I have an anti theater room at 18x22 with 14ft half vaulted ceiling, and carpet with memory foam padding. it is high quality build high quality sound, will be nice when the app adds more features.

[@AndersM97]

@@Elad1369 are you serious? Does it not passthrough 4k 120 Hz? It has HDMI 2.1, it should work...

[@llpoffo8735]

Great review guys. I am a huge Klipsch fan and have both the 400 & 600. I listen to a lot of music and concerts and am now under heavy debate- cancel my 1200 order and go with a Q950A or live with the 1200 and hope the update makes the 1200 a top system. If I were Klipsch, I would have the hardware and software teams working on the same timeline… The finished product needs to be fully baked before shipping! Thanks so much for your honest reviews from both of you!!

[@KristiWright]

Tough call, TBH. You could wait and see. It really depends on how soon the bar gets to you, where you purchased from & their return policy. If it arrives, test it out and make the call on if it works for you "as is" or with the Night mode workaround as a temporary fix. The ONE pro in keeping your order in place is that according to a retailer friend of ours, all (or most) Klipsch pricing will increase as soon as tomorrow due to increased shipping costs. This WILL affect the price of the 1200 - something we didn't know until after filming. So in that respect, you'd be saving yourself some money by keeping the order in place.

[@llpoffo8735]

@@KristiWright That’s great inside information. I have a 30-day return window and don’t mind a “temporary” work around. I will rewatch both of your reviews and likely keep my standing order. Fingers crossed for the update. Come on Klipsch Software team- step up your game!! We’re all counting on you!!

[@andykillsu]

I would go with the Q950A. The surround effects are just better with all the extra channels and you can hear them. Plus you have a bass that is balanced and doesn’t need severe tuning to sound good.

[@nicholaschen6713]

Got the 950a on your excellent review and pitch! Loving it so far. Any recommendations on movies/music to fully immerse myself in?

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I absolutely can't get enough of Ford vs Ferrari. That movie keeps getting better (for me) each time I watch it. For a crazy good time listening to surround sound, 6 Underground in Atmos (but it's crazy violent).

[@KristiWright]

Cruella is lots of fun with a great soundtrack.

[@davidthanos]

That 6 underground opening scene is a good tester for sound bars. Back in the day I would use the matrix scene where he's in the copter shooting

[@nicholaschen6713]

Thanks all for the replies! Will definitely test these out in the coming days. Back in the day, the matrix was on loop several times for me 😂

[@andreifilip6364]

I'm hearing a lot of talk about the firmwear updates for both the app and other products like the Fives. Would you consider doing a Klipsch Cinema range 400 through 1200 (and alternatives like the Fives, Sixes and Theater bar) all-encompasing comparison in maybe a few months? Say in time for blockbuster season when people (me) may start looking for ways to enhance their home theater / hi-fi experience? Thanks! (also, loving the Kristi talks)

[@josecintron85]

The start of Kristi's review said it all...

[@henryphilippeaux4503]

Hey Andrew, health wise I hope you and your family members are all doing well. I decided to go for the A80J instead of the A90J. With the money saved, I picked up a back lit remote. Now I want a good soundbar between the Sennheiser and the Klipsch Cinema 1200. After a 100 or so hours, I’ll have the TV calibrated. What’s your take on the Klipsch 1200 or the Sennheiser?

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We are well thank you for asking. Regarding your sound bar question, please watch the above video. You'll find your answers there.

[@damongrambow7077]

Agree! As a customer who wants the simplicity you speak of, when you start getting into this price point, you're getting a customer who wants simplicity with the ability to make simple adjustments. Also, just subscribed Friday after seeing the review of the fives. Ordered based on your review and have been binging videos all weekend. IMO, Kristi should be on camera for her take. She's delightful! You're not so bad, either Andrew. Do you often hear that you remind people of Mark Duplass? Cuz dude, doppleganger!

[@nimt782]

@Andrew - How do you feel about the Klipsch 600's vs. the vizio elevate? Hoping for something that's solid for both moview watching and party music (~30 people plus). I know the elevate is a bit annoying to connect but according to Rtings, it seems to be the better system for music playback.

[@richlandzee8686]

Shop around for the Samsung Q950T (9.1.4) now that 950A has been released. The 950T is awesome since it has gone through 2 software updates since its launch. Search for a website that acts as a 3rd party allows you to set your own price. It doesn't cost you anything. You name your price, sellers review your out the door offer and choose to either accept or do a counter offer. You are not obligated to buy unless you agree to the final price. I did it with 950T and the company is legit and i managed to register my system with Samsung. Good luck.

[@beach_bum777]

Glad I got the 950A now. Thanks Andrew!

[@feelgeorge]

Are you happy with the 950A?

[@beach_bum777]

@@feelgeorge Very.

[@dmoneytopdog]

I second that,samung 950a is amazing and that's coming from a q90r

[@richlandzee8686]

Now I'm curious, so for the Bass EQ setting adjustment of +-6, can that be expanded with a software update? The spacefit+ auto room calibration found in Q950A will only work with Samsung QLED TVs because its relying on physical sensors (I think) between the TV and the sound bar system but there is another built-in auto EQ within Smartthings that will work regardless of what you connect the soundbar to. Is that configured through software or hardware?

[@Powerpickle68]

Their response apology might as well have been a robot simply stating " We are Klipsch"

[@lonniefarmer7067]

I love my Klipsch System but it is the best of the A/V with: 2-280 F, 2- 280FA towers, 450C, 600's mounted as height, and 2-505 surrounds. My twin 15 inch subs run at 1/8th power and integrate to perfection. The speakers (7.2.4) cost close to 8k but in this case was worth every cent with music also a wonderful experience.

[@tomford1080]

That cinema 600 sounds like the way to go Andrew 😳

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

GREAT bar for little to no money!

[@mattgiunt]

Have a small Klipsch theater in one room centered around the 600M and it sounds great. Klipsch should have waited. Just a side question, are those very nice looking leather hassocks in your room providing any kind of room sound control or are they just for decor? Thanks

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I bet your theater sounds great! As for the leather stools, they're for decor.

[@Richbroth]

Lost me at no dts/dtx. Q950a > cinema 1200. Their reasoning for not paying for license to put more into sound quality doesn't fly for me. At this price point there is no excuse.

[@edg9697]

Same here. Extensive dts physical library. This and fact that its 2021 and Samsung putting out 11 channels, Nakamichi 9, LG 7, and Klipsch comes with 5???? WTH....

[@oldsnwbrdr]

Thank you Andrew. I greatly appreciate your transparency. Surprised you didn’t mention DTS (lack thereof) though. Here I come Samsung. BTW, the bonus material at the end is great. Klipsch has missed their customer. We are fine with control and sound quality at the expense of simplicity.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I didn't mention the DTS because I felt it's omission from this video would communicate that the Klipsch doesn't have it. I only have so much time to go over everything, so it was a judgement call on my part. My apologies.

[@oldsnwbrdr]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews This would have complemented your discussion on who is Klipsch targeting this to? If they were targeting their core customers, they would have gone for sound quality above all else, to include adjustability, auto setup, AND DTS for customers with physical media. Instead they are playing follow the leader with Sonos. Klipsch says they left out DTS due to cost; I don't buy it. Serious sound lovers would pay for it, and there are many cheap soundbars that support DTS.

[@LCRavagnani]

I’ve been waiting for this Soundbar for almost 2 years when it was still named Bar 54. Now, not only did still have not finished the product, they increased the price of it to boot. Just Wow. I’m going to have to pass.

[@HellBoundSinner]

@robinsonbrand it's been a while now and the price has dropped to $799. Do you feel the issues have been corrected with the app updates? Any thoughts or concerns yet?

[@Cocker_Spaniel]

So no any news about the missing functions/ app update?

[@chawonytube]

Dope review as always. If the product comes out without the needed accessories or features, then it should be reviewed. No respect for the consumers.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thanks Francesco.

[@OrlanCEO]

We need an update on this soundbar!!

[@LLNYRN]

So you mean to say that within all that delay time, KLIPSCH couldn't or didn't want to use that time to make the necessary refinements for the Cinema 1200? On top of that, I know you and Kristi have to be fair when making your reviews. That's a given. But KLIPSCH's first response to your initial subwoofer concerns made them come off like overconfident and rude A**holes. And that you two had no idea what you were doing. Should just have referred to this soundbar as the "SINEMA" 1200. I'll hold on to my Nakamichi SoundWafe Elite. Great Review. KLIPSCH should be embarrassed. If I were in charge, I would have waited until all the kinks were worked out. Especially within all the delay time the company had.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We appreciated Klipsch's candid remarks and for taking the time to answer all of our questions, comments and concerns. In the end, they have to do what they think is best, and I can only comment on what my experience is.I'm looking forward to taking a 2nd look at this bar again once the App is finished.

[@Powerserg-dx5kk]

Should a sound bar be placed above the TV or should it be always on the bottom?

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

You want it to be in line or as in line with your seated position, so I have to think that means it's going to rest below.

[@Powerserg-dx5kk]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews thx for taking the time to reply thx again be safe love your channel great information always

[@mcsnoopster]

I would have waited for the damn app to be ready. As someone who into electronics and gaming I'm beyond tired of the coming with a future update nonsense that is becoming common place. Release the product finished. I've been eyeing the new Yamaha line of receivers coming this fall with HDMI 2.1 support but I'm not going near them until that whole 2.1 coming with a future firmware update goes live.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I'm still waiting on some of those updates myself, so I feel ya!

[@kiran_kumar_mr]

Klipsch Connect App update has been released a week ago. It supports EQ for 1200. It will be great if any of the owners of 1200 or Andrew can shed light on this update. Does the update make 1200 a worthwhile purchase?

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We no longer have the 1200 to test so I'm afraid I cannot confirm. Glad to hear an update was finally released. With it is the only way I would make this purchase.

[@woerwaks]

I am going to give this setup a swirl now that the app has been upgraded. The app has to pair with the sound bar first before I can actually see what the app is capable of, but I’m keeping my hope high enough not to be cine-cal, but low enough to be realistic. We have a smallish typical dutch house so the bass would really be the determining factor here. In terms of features, connectivity, future compatibility and sound quality for not just home cinema but music (important to me) are important aspects as I dont buy and sell audio equipment frexquently. My wife likes the idea of a soundbar and wireless sub & satelites for a more uncluttered look, but I have always felt it to much of a compromise in sound quality compared to a similarly priced component system, well, until Andrew’s cinema600 review. I’ll check in with the findings asap.

[@cindylouise54]

@@woerwaks en hoe bevalt de klipsch 1200 tot nu toe. Twijfel om hem te halen wacht al 3 jaar

[@gb3496]

"Too soon", LMAO!

[@Alex4SiliconValley]

I have the Klipsch sound bar 40 I purchased right before the 600 came out. I am still looking for the perfect sound bar. I think I want it with DTSx and Atmos and a 10-inch subwoofer to use as my main sound system. I already have a 7.2 surround system but you know it not good for everyday use for just watching TV because it is too loud. So I am still looking for the Perfect sound bar. I want a Klipsch because I really like their products. I guess I will still have to wait until they fix these things. Even my SB-40 required a firmware update. I don't know why they keep releasing these products with out thoroughly testing them. They need a better QA department.

[@KristiWright]

Guys, I just saw an ad about poop on this video 😂. #deceased

[@KristiWright]

"doodoo gurus" y'all...I sh!t you not. Yeah, I watched it all the way through.

[@joshdekubber3631]

WHAT💩!?

[@KristiWright]

@@joshdekubber3631 I KNOW.

[@jessethomas9629]

I recently got Cinema 600 and I love it. Thanks for review of Cinema 1200. Subwoofer seems to work well and I love the look of Klipsch. The app is a joke and I look forward to update. Now I just need to upgrade my TV to either a 4K or 8K and fully utilize the Cinema 600.

[@GAZANOO]

Out of 10. What is ur rating so far ??

[@johncolbron3136]

Thanks for your good and honest review of the cinema 1200. Here in Australia they want $2,500 for the cinema 1200 no way is it worth that much especially since I can get the Samsung 950a for $1,200

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Wow, that's quite a price difference. Must have something to do with shipping and import fees?

[@jamesmoore4827]

I'm in Australia, may I ask where for 1200? I would definitely consider it but at least from Bing Lee, Goodguys, Have Norman, JB hi-fi it is no less than 1900. Thanks.

[@KristiWright]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Yes, there is a huge mark up for goods in Australia. It is what it is.

[@johncolbron3136]

Good guys commercial website has it for $1,253 but you have to be a member. It's $2,000 on regular good guys website mate

[@KristiWright]

@@johncolbron3136 Those kind of websites bug me. Like, just give sell the thing for what you need to make on it.

[@garagesale5948]

Already ordered the Cinema 600 Sound Bar 5.1 System (on sale $100 off)

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Winner, winner chicken dinner. The 600 on sale is an absolute STEAL!