Installing the 347 Stroker

[@robviousobviously5757]

just finished up brake lines and bleeding on my 1967 347 stroker.. ready to schedule my exhaust system... then the first test drive since 2002.. lol, been a while...

[@AndyKruseChannel]

My hats off to you for being disciplined to get it all done correctly while you were waiting for 20 years instead of slapping some duct tape on it and hoping for the best. :)

[@stang3028]

Wow it looks good cant wait to here it bro

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks!

[@ripr7248]

Can't wait to hear her sing!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Me too!

[@glenndiorio8967]

In addition to shop towels in intake, I like to use 2" tape covering the enitre opening. You can use a anti-vibration thread sealer all in one on the bolts as an option. No clutch cover dowels?? Always nice to start with a clean slate, all parts and work area clean. 👍

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Yeah, I think that tape would work a little better, next time! This clutch does not use dowels, the clutch bolts have a shoulder on them to hold the clutch like the dowels would have done. :)

[@fordtechlife]

O Ya it looks good them headers gonna be a tight fit 👊🇺🇸💪🙏 351w in my 65 it's tight 🐎🚗🔧 can't wait to hear it running

[@AndyKruseChannel]

They fit the exact same, everything lines up as if I still had my 289 in there. :)

[@bspblastspraypowdercoat4419]

just a quick thanks for your videos mate, im dropping a stroker in my 65 fastback in the next few weeks, alot of your vids have saved me time and money over the last couple of years, very much appreciated

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks Brotha! This is a big reason why I make these videos, hoping somebody somewhere can pull some info from them and be able to tackle the car themselves! :)

[@pauleggert1863]

Can't wait till you turn her over for the 1st time 🙏 I'm happy for you. Great job!!!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

You and me both!

[@diegoburgos5420]

Nice job Andy, can’t wait to hear it roar

[@AndyKruseChannel]

You and me both!

[@tonykluytmans5336]

Looks great! Can't wait to hear it fired up. Cheers from down under

[@AndyKruseChannel]

You and me both!

[@zimman20]

Looking forward to seeing it run, Andy! Great vid, you must be pumped up!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Super pumped!

[@Redmist.65]

Probably one of the best videos you have done! Great views on every part being installed with a simple instruction to go along with it. Good luck with the start up. Cant wait to see it running!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks, I can't wait too! :)

[@Gotstang66]

Looking Good Andy Im very eager to to hear You 347 Running 👌👍👍

[@AndyKruseChannel]

You and me both!

[@samrotolo7303]

Were all out here how exciting for you. 15:18 nothing to exciting -Kruse

[@AndyKruseChannel]

I try to keep the entertaining stuff for the videos and keep the boring stuff out as to not force people to watch something that requires little to no skill. I try to balance interesting content with "this is good for people to know'" kind of content, and frankly some of this stuff is neither. Lastly, there are some tasks that really could be done a 100 different ways and my way of doing some of those tasks may not be the correct way or the best way. I'm just like everyone else and I can get a little lazy with some things and I have no interest in showing that stuff as the finished product is sometimes more important than the journey. :)

[@samrotolo7303]

@@AndyKruseChannel you know the internet sometimes 🤣 people might take things wrong. I want to be more clear here. I was ribbing you,, joking you. I honestly think what you're doing is awesome. There's nothing easy about video publishing on KZbin. I have video documented a bunch of stuff on my Harley's over the years. And sometimes making the video I didn't enjoy working on the Harley as much. Definitely super nice if you can keep that balance and still enjoy the work on the car and build a brand at the same time and make some parts and sell them I think it's all good man keep going. I'm still searching for a Mustang I haven't found the right one I don't want one that is turn key and done too much and I don't want one that needs major restored. Looking to find something in that middle ground that I could drive around and work on little bit.

[@SmackeysGarage]

Looking forward to hearing the beast fire up! Engine bay looked great all cleaned up before the engine install.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! The engine bay still looks great, but I put a few more things in it since the video. More coming soon. :)

[@paulbruno8327]

Great stuff Andy! You’re doing a fine job with everything. 🏆🏁

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks 👍

[@AlfsMustangGarage]

This is so exciting! I'm very happy for you!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks Brotha!

[@austindowney7142]

This combo of Alf’s mustang garage and Andy have helped me a lot on my 67, thanks to you both love the content!

[@CMOSX]

Love the build Andy!!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks!

[@vazzoxTito]

hey man, just bought a 1970 maverick with a 289. been wat me at my laptop for lost time watching your videos. I learned so much about my engine and car because of you. I've gotten confident moving shit around in the engine bay. excited but sad that ur moving on from the 289 for obvious bias reasons, but who wouldn't wanna swap the 289 for a 347. clean ride and ill always be watchin ur videos. cheers!

[@rustybritches6747]

Honestly I rather build a 289 over a more modern 302 roller!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

This is a big reason why I make these videos, to help the next guy when they want to turn the wrench on their car and make it work or make it better. :)

[@rossw6926]

brilliant idea to put the driver side header on first, I never would have thought of it!... even though you said at the very end of your last video you were going to put both headers on AFTER the motor is in . AWW just messing with yeah looking good and good job on your channel boss.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Glad you liked it

[@jerrymoore6227]

Cool. I know you will have fun with this big small block !!!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

I hope so! :)

[@rokinben]

great work keep it up! Id love a 347 one day

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! While I went down an expensive path for a 347, I think these can be had for a lot less money, especially if you’re willing to pass on a few upgrades. 😁

[@MK4PERFORMANCE]

Crazy exciting to see the new engine go in Andy! Congrats and can't wait for the first start.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

You and me both!

[@Hjfvvdst]

Very nice build.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks!

[@TimboStang71]

Awesome man, so sick!!! That motor gave me goosebumps 😆. Wanna do a 347 for my '71. You got a new sub brotha!!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@richardwarner1372]

I wondered where you have been hiding Andy…been a little busy I see. Nice upgrade!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

More to come!

[@wolfthornhawkridge5705]

Nice job, can’t wait to hear the first fire!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

You and me both!

[@bergyboyz3794]

making everything look so easy 😂 we all know what it takes behind the scenes, hope all goes smoothly

[@AndyKruseChannel]

I get to blame that on the editing, where I can pick and choose the good stuff. :)

[@rogjackson]

Looking good. This is getting exciting. It will be interesting to see how she performs!

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Fingers are crossed it's going to be as awesome as it looks. But I am biased, so I might have set a really high bar. :)

[@TeamGForce75]

Tell us about your mechanical background Andy. You really know your stuff and im interested to know how your learned everything! Love the videos. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺

[@AndyKruseChannel]

I don't know where the line should be for sharing too much info (whether it's inappropriate or blurs the line for Doxing myself) and I don't yet know how to blend a "how-to" channel with an entertainment channel. I'm still a nobody in the Classic Mustang world and definitely in the KZbin world, but it might be cool to put out a survey on what other info people want to know without bogging down their "How to adjust part X" video. :)

[@TeamGForce75]

@@AndyKruseChannel hey it's your channel and you do what works for you. Looking forward to seeing that motor run and a 289 vs 347 driving comparison 👍🏻

[@mikebroszczak5767]

Nice job

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@jamesyoung6498]

Great attention to detail Andy. It took discipline to take that transmission back out and re-install it again. Better safe than sorry. Looking forward to you firing it up. Keep up the great videos and it never hurts to make a punch list so small details are not forgotten. (I have a tendacy to think of small details that need to be done and then get caught-up in something else).

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! I do use punch lists. In fact, they're a spreadsheet where I get to add the number of bolts, the tool needed for that bolt removal, and any other notes I might need. :)

[@tonydamico1719]

LOVED IT AND I HAD THAT CAR 🚗

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Great car!

[@macs65mustangrestoration]

Nice video. Getting ready for a T5 trans in mine.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! Good luck with your swap!

[@JimsFastbackGarage]

You should try to put long tube headers on a 351 Cleveland in a classic mustang. Good video.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Ha, I've heard that the head size on the Cleveland doesn't play nice with the early Mustangs. :)

[@JimsFastbackGarage]

@@AndyKruseChannel it's harder to change spark plugs. I have a KZbin short on my mustang engine.

[@BPattB]

LETS GO!!!! Over-under on I'm going to make on this video. 3

[@AndyKruseChannel]

I'm going!

[@BPattB]

@@AndyKruseChannel 🤣 I only made it 2 minutes into your video and my wife had some sort of catastrophic emergency, pretty sure the garbage needed taking out.

[@swooshdave]

Don’t forget to take the stickers off the back off the drivers side head.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks for the heads up.

[@HotrodPlumbing]

next time install your block plate, flywheel, and clutch on the motor when you install it, saves yourself a hour of fighting and torquing it under the car!. nice build

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks for the heads up.

[@SlowInFastOut1776]

Good stuff, Andy. Bet that 347 is going to be a screamer. I just picked up a 66 Fastback project that I’m documenting via KZbin. Would love to get your thoughts.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! I hope this engine is as great as it looks! Congrats on your new project, I'll have to check out your channel! :)

[@brenteddy67mustang]

Thank you for the video. What radiator set up is that? I see you are Canadian, from where in in Surrey BC.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

No problem! Radiator is a 24" Champion, with electric fans from a 1999 Ford Contour. I've got a video on that install, you should check it out! Sorry, not from or in Canada. :)

[@g8705harryH]

Andy...just found your channel...great work! Really interested in the dual fan setup. Any chance you know the overall dimension of the "thinkness" of the fan/shroud after your mods? I put a 390 into my 67 Mustang and have run into the same issue you did with the water pump pulley and the single fan motor.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Max thickness is 5.5", but the thickness where your water pump pulley is located is on 4.75". This is because the extra thickness for the two electric fans are not in the middle of the Rad, they're off to each side, giving a little bit of space back to you for your water pump pulley to be located. :)

[@jpmendoza138]

Sweet congrats! What headers are you running?

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! JBA Shorties, part number 1650S, with the matching H-Pipe, part number 1650SH

[@nitesky001]

Andy, Just curious if you checked to see if the bellhousing is within the .005 spec of run out needed for the T-5 transmission so that the input shaft will not be under any excess stresses to the tapered bearings. When the bellhousing is found to be out of spec, it is necessary to use offset dowel pins to correct the bellhousing location. I will be installing a T-5 this winter and I've been watching videos about indexing the bellhousing. If you have also watched videos about this check, is it something you feel is necessary? Thank you for all the videos you have published.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Tremec recommends the measuring for total run-out, and I too have seen videos where they measure it. I have no interest in the liability of telling someone not to do it, but I did not measure for run-out.

[@nitesky001]

Well hopefully your bellhousing is within spec or your T-5 will feel the stresses. Side note: I never imagined that a disclaimer for liability was needed or I would have worded my question differently. I'm sorry my wording put you in that position. Too bad that the US court system has devolved to a point where car enthusiasts have to state disclaimers to each other.

[@havasumark]

Nice video. Question, did you need to index your bellhousing prior to installing the transmission. I know Tremec does require it.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

I did not index the bellhousing

[@jethroclampett966]

I was waiting for that too.??

[@mrbonafied78]

Have you seen those Jba long tube headers that work with a t5 cable set up for 65 and 66 Stang’s? There’s two versions. 1-5/8 primaries or 1-3/4 primaries. Also where did you get the trans scissor lift? Great content by the way

[@AndyKruseChannel]

I know there are several headers (Long and Tri-Y) that fit with the cable option (MDL has a list on their site), but most of them are outside my budget. If I had it my way, I would have purchased FPA Tri-Y headers, but they're over 3x the price I paid for these shorties. Maybe someday..... :) Trans scissor lift was from Harbor Freight, I paid about $135 for it.

[@mrbonafied78]

@@AndyKruseChannel thanks for the reply and info

[@bryanpiereson8083]

Enjoying your videos. How do you like the T5? I just picked up my 1st mustang, 4 spd. Shifting is vague. I usually get 3rd when going for 1st. Don't know if it's the linkage, the box, or just the nature of the beast. But I suspect the T5 would be crisper.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! I really enjoy the smooth shifting of the T5, but also the overdrive. I put one in my last Mustang (upgrading from the T10 4 speed) and it was buttery smooth the whole time. I doubt it's the linkage causing your issue as I had that same problem on my 4 speed. It took me a little bit to get that muscle-memory of where 1st was. :)

[@bryanpiereson8083]

@@AndyKruseChannel Thanks. Is there a conversion kit that you can recommend? I see one on CJ but it has mixed reviews.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

@@bryanpiereson8083 I don't know of anyone selling a kit, partially because different cars require slightly different parts, and some parts can be pulled from the existing car where other parts may not be salvageable. I do know that Modern Driveline has all the individual parts you'd need. I also have a few videos on my channel of how to do the swap and the parts needed. Check them out. :)

[@charlesa8136]

Have you decided on which fuel pump your installing. Just curious because I have very similar setup with an Edelbrock pump. Thank you

[@AndyKruseChannel]

For now I'm sticking with the stock pump. I'd like to upgrade to a pump with a little higher flow rate, but my engine builder says the stock unit is sufficient. :)

[@raptorjesus99]

How did your larger oil pan fit with your steering linkage? Close to rub?

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Zero issues, fits fantastic. I was concerned that the crossmember bar might hit, but there's plenty of clearance. :)

[@stevewood6660]

hi Andy , great video as always , I’ve been reading about the T5 and it’s fragility when increasing the output of the motor , do you have any thoughts ?

[@AndyKruseChannel]

The fragility of this trans is absolutely on my mind, but I'll be fine for a few reasons. When I was doing the rebuild on my T5, I upgraded and replaced some of the known failure points with better parts. The trans is rated for about 330 ftlbs of torque, but that's the rated value and it can absolutely see more but it depends on how and when you apply that higher Tq value. If decided to spend my time doing 5k clutch drops, I'll shred the trans in no time. Maybe not on the first try, but sending all the TQ I've got to a stationary gear system all at once is exactly how I'll break it. However, if I need to do a sweaty burnout, feathering the clutch as I send all that power through the trans will push that breaking point out to a later date, much later. And that's the worst of it, because while I'm driving, everything is moving and "happier" when higher TQ values are being seen by the trans. Even some spirited driving will be fine, because everything is already turning inside the trans and I'm not dumping all the power on a single tooth that isn't ready for it. These trans have been used in road race cars for decades with essentially the same internal parts I'm using and high power applications. Long story short, as long as I limit my 5k clutch drops, this trans will be just fine. But if not, it's an opportunity to upgrade and more content for my channel!! :)

[@stevewood6660]

@@AndyKruseChannel fair points mate, I was at the autosport international (Birmingham UK) show yesterday and some guy was trying to talk me into a TKO, instead of rebuild my t5, I’m on a budget so have to careful where I put my money, so after your reply I’m going to look at rebuilding the T5 , It’s more of a tourer than a drag car, but it may do a few runs sometime in the future, but no 5k clutch dropping 😂cheers for the reply 🤙

[@lucianohernandez3468]

What size is your radiator and what about the fans? I ask because I got my 66 with a 3 row aluminum radiator and I only got one fan on it

[@AndyKruseChannel]

24" Rad with dual electric fans from a 1999 Ford Contour. I made a video about the parts and install a few weeks ago. :)

[@gartwilliams3347]

Nice! Just curious, what clutch (manufacturer) did you install?

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Thanks! It is a 10 inch clutch from Modern Driveline, part number MD-07-14C

[@alanloizeaux4881]

'56 mustang? Oops a blooper. Keep up the nice work.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Will do!

[@alanloizeaux4881]

@@AndyKruseChannel I bought a '67 fastback many years ago for a good price. Started multiple upgrades including a T5 swap. Got orders for Germany and sold the car due to the high cost of storage for a 3+ year tour. Living my dream build watching your progress videos. Q: did you dial in (align the bellhousing / transmission) with the new engine? T5's have specific alignment tolerances and will wear out quickly if out of spec.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

@@alanloizeaux4881 No, I did not index the trans, just slapped it in there! 😀

[@theunluckyfrog3316]

Why does he not use flywheel dowels?

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Because the pressure plate I have doesn't accept them, they use shouldered bolts. :)

[@fmendez1005]

What distributor are you using?

[@AndyKruseChannel]

The stock style, same unit I had in my 289.

[@dougpinzer7972]

what radiator ddid you use

[@AndyKruseChannel]

Champion, 24" wide, 2 row. I made a video about it, it's on my channel. :)

[@richardporter4281]

Andy where's your wife you need her to help operate the engine lift.

[@AndyKruseChannel]

She was inside, keep the house warm. :)