KEIS Heated Clothing - First Impressions

[@jimsadler8704]

A great presentation, Andy, which must be a main contender for the 'Ice Cream' trip.

[@AndyManCam]

Very kind of you to say so Jim! But this a winter marathon, not an autumn sprint! 😜

[@mattmutane5502]

Excellent video Andy, many thanks. The best Keis "Inspiring Rider" video I've seen so far. Snappy, to the point, good product detail and the usual quality presentation. A good mix of off and on the bike. Good job. Loving Keis, I just bought some G701s myself, can't wait to try them out in anger!! :)

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Matt! You’re too kind! 😊 Hoping the drizzle eases up so you can get your Testing started!

[@Kurlach]

Thanks Andy, you convinced me. I’ll grab myself one of each, definitely needed 👍🏻

[@AndyManCam]

My Pleasure, thanks Chris. Happy warm riding!

[@PTVplayer]

Such a lucky boy Andy. Hopefully we will all be watching your Iceland trip soon 🎥 Good luck 🤞

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks! I sincerely hope so mate!

[@glyngreenwood8377]

After 40 odd years of doing this motorbike thing, the kies heated jacket and gloves are theeeeeee best thing I've ever ever ever bought.... Period!

[@bren106]

6:40 "I'm just going to leave that dangling out there so I know what I'm doing" was Andy's defence in court.

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! I reckon it would stand! A man needs to know what he’s ‚doing‘!!

[@mattmutane5502]

@@AndyManCam And needs to know where his "stuff" is at, at all times! :D :D :D

[@bren106]

@@AndyManCam Good luck getting it to stand in this fkn cold.

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! It’ll stand, just not very tall!! 😂😂

[@mrcintheuk5596]

I've been using Gerbing heated gloves for four years now. This year I treated myself to their full inner jacket and it's an absolute game changer - I've even taken the liner out of the bike jacket, as recommended by Gerbing. Mine are plumbed into the bike battery. Combined with some battery powered heated socks I bought last year and there's no such thing as cold weather anymore. A snug fit, not tight, is a must for the jacket.

[@AndyManCam]

I’m inclined to agree. Would have liked to try the full jacket too, maybe later! 😜 Keis are kindly switching out the vest for a tighter fit, so possible that I’ll be even warmer still! In any case, commuting has been a lot less painful this year!!

[@dazsyvo8499]

Im sad i even got the socks 🤣😅rather be too hot than cold

[@stevecolwill9761]

Me too, full Gerbing jacket with gloves, all wired in to the bike. Game changer. Didn’t go for the socks as I ride a classic Bavarian flat twin. Toasty!

[@stewiemac4017]

@@AndyManCam Keis do heated insoles. Gloves and jackets are great but just wait until you feel that heat in your boots 😊

[@02bigkev]

Good luck Andy, looks a great bit of kit.

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Kev! It’s very well put together stuff and early signs are extremely promising!

[@Tenfx72]

Fancy me some of these gloves. Did the lovely Keis people give you a discount code for your lovely subs 😊. Nice vid.

[@AndyManCam]

Not yet, but it wouldn’t hurt to ask! 😜

[@mikejgriffiths]

Good luck Andy. If you win the trip we know you'll make the very most of it and take us along with you. Also we know we'll get the truth about the Keiss gear but I do think it might be better than your home made chest hair singe thingy.

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Mike! I can happily confirm that it is a different league to the homemade special! For a start, there isn’t a flasher relay constantly clicking while the vest is on! I have no doubt that this one will last a ‚little bit‘ longer!! 😆

[@bombercountybiker2990]

Great stuff Andy. Tried my first heated stuff this weekend, was really impressed.

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers BCB! It’s a brave new world, isn’t it!

[@backontwowheels9469]

Hmmm 🤔 I have heated grips and heated seat which is a definite plus for cold weather. Work location changed from Munich to Frankfurt, although the bike is back in the UK at the moment. Wondering wether to return after Xmas on the bike or the car, not too fussed about cold and rain, just the snow and ice 🤔 Ian Back on Two Wheels

[@AndyManCam]

I can only imagine how amazing a heated seat must be! Yeah the snow and ice brings other ‚complications‘ over and above just getting cold! Spiked tyres?

[@backontwowheels9469]

@@AndyManCam 😂

[@dazsyvo8499]

So glad you got some heated gear at last its a massive game changer you will love it 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks very much Daz! I really am loving it so far! Being able to go riding in sun zero temps, but without wearing everything i own and being unable to turn my head or bend my arms! Heavenly!!

[@grosbeakmc]

Great video, Andy. Very interesting even though I am strictly a fair weather biker. Thanks for sharing!

[@AndyManCam]

My pleasure! I’d love to be a fair weather rider. But that would basically mean never riding!! 😆😆

[@Banditmanuk]

Its quality gear no doubt. My wife loves her heated jacket. That huge power block is also useful for powering all manor of electrical gadgetry while away or camping. We choose to power the jacket from the bikes battery when riding as that large hard battery could cause injury in the event of a crash.

[@AndyManCam]

Absolutely! Yeah the brick is a chunk! But i guess with great power… I’ve discovered that i can stick it the thigh pocket of my Rukka trousers and everything is far more comfortable. Obviously for the longer rides, hard wired definitely makes the most sense!

[@LambChopRides]

Oh battery powered like the look of that! Nice video Mr Cam 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Mr Chops! The battery powered is a real winner especially with gloves too from the same battery! Awesome!

[@johndiehardmclean23]

As an all weather, for only leisure CBT rider up here in Scotland Andy, I can only imagine these to be a TOTAL GAME CHANGER momentus moment for you dude, since Germany is as far from Tropical as Scotland this time of year! 👍🙂

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers John. It is really cool to be involved and my hands & torso certainly don’t mind the extra heating in this most frigid of seasons!! 😄

[@johndiehardmclean23]

@@AndyManCam Happy New Year! 👍 Back in summer I had my phone charging in my inside jacket pocket on a wireless charger, plugged into my Anker power bank & the heat coming off it was unbearable, although will be trying that out when the temps drop again!!! 🤣👍

[@AndyManCam]

Hahaha! Absolutely inspired! Talk about turning a downside into an upside! 🤣

[@whatsstefon]

Damn! Wish I knew about these earlier. I ride through rain, cold and snow up here in the Blue Mountains. Might have to check them out and see if we can get them here.

[@AndyManCam]

They’re a real game changer! I rode to work today in minus 4°C and my Oxford heated grips have been on the blink since i got them. 👍🏻

[@whatsstefon]

@@AndyManCam I have to say, those heated grips don’t seem to hold up well as far as longevity. Nearly everyone I know who has fitted them to their bike has told me they stopped working. Seems like these gloves and vest are the way forward.

[@AndyManCam]

The last Oxford grips i had lasted across 3 bikes, so i was expecting better! Sadly the controller malfunctioned, killed my battery, and then never worked again! 😖

[@whatsstefon]

@@AndyManCam that’s pretty amazing. I’ve not come across a set fitted to a bike that works. Most common failure is the left grip dying and too difficult to repair. I’m really liking these gloves though. I’ll have to see how I get a pair down here in Australia. Living in the mountains, it actually gets surprisingly cold.

[@AndyManCam]

I was surprised that the new ones packed up almost immediately. For anything over 5-10°C and with some wind protection, these gloves would completely remove the need for heated grips. I’m thinking of going that way tbh.

[@simonrobinson7536]

Looks nice gear Andy

[@AndyManCam]

It’s well put together mate. A solid few notches above my attempt all those years ago!! 😁

[@derekholme6922]

Hi Andy, you lucky chap, well done and sure you’ll be off to Iceland, what they did not mention is, you will be putting their kit to extreme testing on you, just as I purchased some Keis gloves your vid popped up, have a good one, Cheers

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Derek! Haha! I didn’t think of it like that! There’s a good spread of others racing for the prize, so we’ll have to wait and see!! Enjoy the warm hands mate!

[@highlandriders9696]

Excellent stuff Andy as usual both informative and funny. Have made a purchase of one of these vests too and can't wait to use it.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks HRM! Hope you’re as satisfied as I am! 🤙🏼

[@IanTed]

Got the older manual version of the vest, brilliant kit as I ride in Northumberland, love my dangler🥶😆

[@AndyManCam]

Like all good bands, many people prefer the earlier stuff! As a recipe it’s a Winner. I really enjoy the dangler too. Simple but effective and hasn’t once gotten in the way. 👍🏻

[@jeffsappington9704]

I have the Keis 501J jacket, it's a game changer. Many rides this fall, I've been the only bike I've seen in the mountains. Finally starting to snow here in Colorado, so it's game over, I'm afraid, for a bit.

[@AndyManCam]

I can imagine that! I was out in -4°C the other day with day old snow on the ground. Didn’t see a single bike in the 4 hours i was riding!!

[@AndyManCam]

Nice. Congrats! Probably the sensible choice with keeping it under wraps, but i completely understand the Jonesing!! 😫

[@greggbrassett6989]

First time you’ve had heated gloves? The amount you motorbike youtubers spend on gear?! They don’t cost a lot in comparison. I’ve used gerbing heated gloves for nearly 12 years. When you discover them after having ridden a few winters not knowing they existed, it’s heaven. By the way, my 4 year old daughter says you look younger.

[@AndyManCam]

What you must understand about most KZbinrs is that they’re raging tightwads!! 🤣 But You’re right. Warmth is worth the money and i wish I’d gotten on board sooner!! Glad i look younger. She seems qualified to me. I’ll take the compliment! 😁

[@greggbrassett6989]

@@AndyManCam what she says goes. She knows her stuff. Well… I’d say heated gloves manufacturers are tightwads too. The amount of cold weather riding content you’ve posted over the years, you should’ve been sent some free ones years ago.

[@AndyManCam]

Oddly enough, i did send a few emails out to a few other manufacturers with no joy. Very pleased that KEIS are keen! 😊

[@greggbrassett6989]

@@AndyManCam hmmm, maybe I’ll switch brands when my current ones wear out. I do like a brand that seems willing to respond to feedback and reward customer loyalty and stuff.

[@AndyManCam]

Absolutely. The time is over for faceless brands that don’t converse with their market and smaller social media creators (like little me!) . Seems like many companies are realising this. KEIS is definitely one and Insta360 seem to be very much the same.

[@markmundy3435]

You can't put a price on being warm, and we all know once you get cold your riding tanks, stay warm stay safe. That Keis gear look the big dogs rear appendages. And you, in the running for inspiring rider, be know living with ya! (Just remember, if someone says "you're looking hot" it WILL be the Keis gear their talking about, maybe!)

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! I’ve learned not to think they’re talking about me already! 🤣 So true about keeping warm. They say it’s as dangerous as being drunk. Plus the enjoyment level drops through the floor! So definitely worth investing in comfort. I wonder how cold it’ll be in Iceland?…. 😉

[@markmundy3435]

@@AndyManCam How cold, well, I don't think you'll see many brass monkeys up that way, for obvious reasons.

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Alles klar! 🍒

[@upliftedfitness9315]

I just bought my gear I’m super excited 🎉

[@AndyManCam]

Enjoy the warmth UF!!

[@johnward3490]

Keis stuff is brilliant all the layering can’t beat heated kit. I just use merino base layer and keis waistcoat down to zero degrees cheers

[@AndyManCam]

I’m tending towards agreeing with you!! Not feeling like a tightly packed sausage really is a victory! I’m finding that i still need a light fleece layer as well as the jacket liner. But then i do have ZERO wind protection, so a single fleece versus EVERYTHING I OWN is a massive step up for me!! 🤣

[@mikeybikey106]

Tried the waist coat and battery scenario but changed to the full keis jacket which has heated sleeves and neck and the gloves connect neatly to the cuff on the jacket and then both are powered directly by the bike rather than a 3-4hr battery. Importantly, if you are going to just rely on the jacket and a base layer for heat , make sure you keep a set of spare fuses in the pockets . My fuse blew and i had a couple of very cold riding hours !!

[@cpuuk]

I like KEIS kit :-) The jacket temp is actually hotter than you think. I can go all day (8 hours +) and still stay toasty on low. Only small downside is that you can feel the battery on the left.

[@AndyManCam]

I’m a convert too. More for the vest so far. Though with the arms unheated, I’m still finding the right balance of what to wear under the outer jacket in order to stay warm all over! First proper ride out of the city today and at 1 degree C I managed to stay warm with just the jacket liner and a base layer. Until the battery died after 2 and a bit hours of full power, that is! The battery is a bit bulky on the left, but I’ve discovered that the cable is exactly the right length to put it in the left thigh pocket of my Rukka Kalavesi trousers!! 👍🏻

[@motodevcam]

I'm yet to watch this as I'm currently in the bath and want to watch it on the big TV. I obviously can't comment using the TV so consider this kudos in advance. Top video!

[@AndyManCam]

Hahaha! Brilliant! Thank you very much, also in advance then! Enjoy!

[@scout8112]

I am impressed.

[@AndyManCam]

It is impressive gear. It’ll be getting a proper Testing this winter!

[@indiamelia639]

Nice one AMC 👍 I picked up the exact same setup recently and it's a game changer. Bit of a faff and disappointed the leads from waistcoat to gloves were an extra 16 quid but it works well. I'm using mine connected directly to the bikes battery.

[@AndyManCam]

Glad to hear it IM! I guess that for the people who didn’t get the gloves, they’re glad they saved 16€ on the price of their waistcoat! 😜

[@Hertfordshire_Biker]

I use a J501RP under a Goldtop leather jacket. The combo is amazing, I feel warm and safe. If it rains, a Scott waterproof jacket has proven to be leakproof so far. Tempted by the gloves!

[@timparsons8515]

Nice, the battery has peeked my interest...🤔. Do you know how/if the jacket will fit over Knoxx urbane armoured vest? Or even under the vest??🤷‍♂️

[@AndyManCam]

I’ll give it a go and let you know. Definitely rather under though. With it over, it’s effectiveness would be greatly reduced. Close to the skin as possible, with a layer between!

[@UncleLongbeard]

nice... and warm :D I wonder what is the power consumption of all that gear on max alltogether

[@AndyManCam]

Its about 1.5A for the vest, 1.6A for the gloves. Times by 12V is 37.2 Watts. 👍🏻

[@Hemlck]

Pro tip - get the socks also - and a lead from your bikes battery means won't just run out after a couple of hours :-)

[@AndyManCam]

To be honest, cold feet has never really been an issue for me! Hands are the weakspot, quickly followed by the core temp! 😂

[@mattmutane5502]

@@AndyManCam I will be interesting to test, compare and contrast just how much warmer your hands can be kept, by using just the jacket alone to raise your core temps! I'm going to try the same experiment (on the assumption that this winter WILL actually involve some cold but DRY days...rather than this incessant wet and slimy nastiness we've had for a couple of months now... :( ) (It might be hard to resist turning on the heated gloves and/or heated grips though... ;) )

[@bobcharlton.9701]

The shortie gloves are on my wish list for christmas ! And speaking of which have yourselves a great one and an even better new year ! 👍👍🍻🎉🎉🍻🍻

[@AndyManCam]

Thank you very much Robert and the very same to you mate! Hope Santa gets your list! 😉

[@bobcharlton.9701]

@@AndyManCam already tried the sizings so it's looking good ! Surprisingly less bulky than most winter gloves, did you have any problems getting a good seal around the cuff coz the plug looks quite large ?

[@AndyManCam]

That does seem promising! Depends on the jacket tbh mate. The Oxford is a bit tight so it’s a squeeze, especially with the liner or a fleece under it. But With the Rukka jacket, it’s got a double cuff, so it’s no problem.

[@mattmutane5502]

@@AndyManCam Double cuffs essential, and FTW!!! (I've ordered a new (double cuffed) jacket to accommodate my new Keis 701s... can't use them until it arrives... :( ) Can't wait, they sure are nice in testing on the bike when stationary!!! :)

[@HippoDrones]

They look like a good bit of kit, be interested to hear how you get on with them over winter.

[@AndyManCam]

So far so good mate! The latest insta360 vid was in minus 4 degrees!

[@HippoDrones]

@@AndyManCam chilly brrrr :D

[@AndyManCam]

Very much so, but eerily comfortable! Impressed with the tyres too in those temps!

[@HippoDrones]

@@AndyManCam Mine felt like they were made of wood the other day when I was out at 3'

[@AndyManCam]

Oh very dear. Never was that a positive tyre comment!! 😆 I’m not sure how Avon did it, but i actually felt pretty confident… on the bits that weren’t centimeter thick ice!!

[@markcrook298]

Was thinking of purchasing some of this heated gear. Looks like a good investment. Maybe you can update when you've used it some more Andy. Another good video BTW. 👍

[@AndyManCam]

It’s a real good investment mate! Being warm without having so many layers that your jacket might burst is a proper luxury! So far I’m very pleased with the commuting performance. Sadly still haven’t managed to get out of the city yet. Blasted adulting getting in the way of the important stuff!!

[@mikebusby1471]

Love my Keis gillet!

[@AndyManCam]

I can fully see why Mike! Commuting has never been so warm and so NOT bulky!!

[@nickfifield1]

Any further updates on Keis gloves ?

[@AndyManCam]

I used them throughout the upcoming Norway tour, so there are lots of real life updates coming soon!

[@rivencsky]

There seems to be a question about the gloves working on a touchscreen phone. Can you test and let us know if the gloves work as touchscreen capable?

[@AndyManCam]

I have had very mixed results. When i first got the gloves and tried inside, it worked on my iPhone 12 mini. But yesterday in the cold, it didn’t work at all.

[@terrybrooks7140]

Hi I've been running the keis Gilet for 3 years and it's transformed my riding I ran it with the smaller battery and get 4 hours low 2 hours medium and 1 hour sizzling I had to put a hard wire in for the wife cos she runs it on sizzling then steals my battery not good. Only thing I've noticed is when it gets really cold the tops of my shoulders get a little cold think I might treat myself to keis jacket🥵 ps I think you or Richy Vida will win but so far you seem to have done your product homework better👍

[@AndyManCam]

That’s good to know, cheers Terry. So i should be good for a whole day with that big battery! Just need to get out for a day and try it! The jacket would be nice. I’ll admit I’m a little jealous of the others that got the full sleeved version! 😅

[@feanythmayosh5525]

Lol.. that one sentence did sounded really wrong. Just wondering. How much thicker are the gloves compared to normal gore tex gloves (like the ones of Dane)?

[@AndyManCam]

I’d say they’re about as thick as a lightweight winter glove. Not at all bulky, good feel of the controls, but insulated enough that even with them turned off, my hands were comfortable in the city at 8 degrees C, without heated grips or hand guards. At 2 degrees, i had to admit defeat and turn them on full!!

[@Mototherapy_online]

I may have skipped your winter review, so wondering if you enjoyed the keis heat ?

[@AndyManCam]

Sadly there hasn't been a proper review yet. Too much work last winter! But so far I have really enjoyed the KEIS Heat! TBH the vest is VERY hot, but could have a larger heated area and the gloves are not quite as hot as I'd like, but they're a vast improvement on not having them!

[@TheHKwiz]

Hi Andy. On the back of your review I was going to buy the jacket for my 2 winter months. Emailed the company after finding Hong Kong wasn’t on the addresses and that was changed within days on the website - impressed. However, after reading the details they state in bold that the jacket should be powered by the bike. You used the battery without issues. I emailed them twice without reply. Are you still using the battery without issue? (My commute is 1hr each way)

[@AndyManCam]

Hi! I’ve actually got the waistcoat, which draws less power than the full sleeved jacket. I’ve been using the waistcoat a lot with the battery and tend to get between 2 and 3 hours of use from it (the 5600 mah battery). I’m pretty sure that the full jacket will work with the battery, you’ll just have greatly reduced run times. I would say probably about a quarter. Hope this helps!

[@teneretraveller8980]

Battery operated ? Straight away her ladyship's ears pricked up and I had no trouble extolling the benefits to her. Cold hands don't work on any level for her, so credit card flexing approved for something in the Xmas stocking. Most excellent. Happy travels.

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Brilliant timing then! Ladies do love a battery operated device.

[@Marxuz_H0w]

I definitely need to upgrade my gear atm it's a big oof. I've never took the leap of having anything heated and everytime the good ol' English weather punishes me. Nice vid squire

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers BHR! It’s a bit of a gamechanger so far! Haven’t been cold on the commute once since this care package arrived!

[@blackline66]

Bloody love your videos ……

[@AndyManCam]

Thank you kindly Rob! 🙏🏻😘

[@NotNowCato1254]

Well, I'll be bum-twazzled! My Christmas present to me from Sportsbikeshop arrived just a few days ago - only the very same vest and blimmin Bluetooth controller! Also bought the accessory lead with DIN plug to attach me to my Beemer. Took advantage of the Black Friday 20% off deal - still £170 odd, mind! It's a bit salty that one has to shell out £45 for the controller on top of the cost of the vest 😕. Still, looking forward to trying it out - have a 100 mile run down to Plymouth looming. Should be a good test... Oh, and when researching, EVERYONE advised going down 1 or even 2 sizes from your usual to get the correct fit. I got a Small and it fits perfick (usually buy Large jackets etc). Looking forward to your thoughts on the Keis gear too, Andy 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Nice one Mike! The vest gets HOT! I’m sure you’ll be very cosy! I’m switching mine for an M to try and get a bit more huggy!

[@NotNowCato1254]

@@AndyManCam Ah, nice one. Must admit, I'm most looking forward to the possibility of fewer layers and less bulk under my Rukka jacket. BTW I went for the more expensive new BT controller cos I envisaged having to stop to undo my outer jacket to get to the manual version - figured an app on the phone (mounted on my top yoke anyway) would avoid that. Now I see the controller is on a long enough lead to dangle out the bottom and be get-at-able on the move. Oh well... 🙄

[@AndyManCam]

Nothing wrong with having options mate! I tend to keep my phone tucked away, but if i ever zipped the jacket fully to the trousers, i could bung the phone on my tankbag and control it wirelessly.

[@motorbiketoureruk]

Awesome isn’t it, I’ve got the full jacket and 4 hours at 80-90 and all is toasty in the winter

[@AndyManCam]

That is brilliant! My Rukka suit kept me comfy down to 6 degrees at 70mph, so i reckon this will keep me toasty at least to zero!

[@grahamhiggins1]

Great review. Interesting the heat intensity indicator is shown on the glove. Are you able to turn off the amber running lights on the Cb1000? I’d rather have these off, but Honda seem to be making them standard now.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Graham. The power indicator lights are nice and easy to see too, which is good. You can unplug the wire for the running lights. I’ve had bar end indicators on for the last season, so the running lights were removed. I don’t really mind them too much tbh.

[@Adameftube]

How did you find the fit and sizing of the gloves? Did you go for your normal size? I notice in some of the others they say to go up a size?

[@AndyManCam]

Normally i would be a 10, but the fingers and palm were a teeeny tiny bit too short, so I’m going to try a size up as soon as german customs let it go!

[@malcolmmuirhead8833]

I have put my money on the wrong horse for the competition, had a stroke but can still ride so I am running bike all year because I don't know how long I have left riding, have keis waistcoat already, which I love, however I bought full set because other manufacturer Has larger batteries, turns out could have ran keis with other battery as same connection, good luck its a different season with heated gear

[@AndyManCam]

That’s annoying! But i guess better to have a spare/extra just in case! At least if they’re all compatible, you’ll have no downtime in the event of a dropout. 👍🏻 Thanks very much Malcolm. Fingers crossed mate!

[@ConciergeMed]

Hi Andy. Have you worn these in a good downpour and if so, are they fully waterproof? Thanks.

[@AndyManCam]

Sadly they did seem to soak up a bunch of water in Norway. 😒 Hands still didn’t get cold though thankfully.

[@ConciergeMed]

@@AndyManCam Thanks Andy. I went ahead and got them the other week anyway but have had a dreadful experience with the controller for the Keis Heated vest. First one sent didn’t turn on at all, replacement came and immediately turned off and now the third replacement this week turns lights on but doesn’t turn on the vest!!! Very P*****d off with Keis as you can imagine and I stressed to them to test them before they send to me!!. Thanks.

[@AndyManCam]

That is a shame, sorry to hear about it. Hopefully they’ll learn from your input mate. I’ve yet to address the wet fingers situation.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Awesome. How much for the lot?

[@AndyManCam]

All in, just under £500.

[@stuartmiller9648]

I wear an xl t shirt size......should i small down to large?

[@AndyManCam]

I would say so, yes. I wear a large normally, sometimes an XL and I’ve got a vest in M.

[@mykheaton]

Brill, I hope you win :) Er, Are the gloves actually waterproof and does the app have a feature where the control stays above other apps or is there a separate button for on the handlebars that can be used? I use my phone as sat nav see...

[@AndyManCam]

Many thanks Michael, i hope so too! The gloves are indeed waterproof and after several wet days of commuting i can back up their claims. The bonded Hipora membrane seems to do the trick. As for the Bluetooth functionality, I’ll have to look into it and get back to you. Good perspective though. I use the Beeline now so many well have forgotten to consider the phone as a gps angle.

[@mykheaton]

@AndyManCam That's good news because my current gloves are very waterproof but not touch screen compatible, So if I get the 701s to use the Bluetooth controller I'll have to switch between sat nav and the Keis app or press the button hanging on a wire from my jacket like the normal controller. Like you probably do as let's face it, ya can't keep the jacket on full heat for long... That's why I'd like a button. Can you ask Keis for one please lol

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! I’m sure they have that idea on a Whiteboard somewhere! The Keis gloves are actually Touchscreen compatible. I know that Teapotone had problems with it, but seems to work fine with my iPhone 12 mini.

[@SoloBlack313]

Hello Andy can you use that system directly to a 12 volt battery

[@AndyManCam]

Yes you most certainly can! And all the wiring to do it comes in the box. 👍🏻

[@SoloBlack313]

@@AndyManCam thanks so much Sir.

[@AndyManCam]

My pleasure dear fellow!

[@tonebonetones]

It's my knees and lower legs that get cold first, followed by my hands and face........an average motorcycle cordura type jacket, though, rarely gets cold enough to warrant a heated vest.

[@mattmutane5502]

The theory goes, and so far I'd say my own experience is leaning towards agreeing, is that if you heat the core, the extremities will feel warmer. It's a little bit counter-intuitive, but if you think about it it makes sense.. :)

[@AndyManCam]

Makes perfect sense. In fact as a defense measure, when your core gets cold the blood vessels to your extremities are constricted. This stops the blood from being cooled as it runs out and back from your arms and legs and therefore keeps the heat in your core. So you could argue @tonebonetones, that your legs are actually getting cold because your core already started hogging the heat for itself!

[@tonebonetones]

Not necessarily. The knees, lower legs on many bikes are taking most of the wind chill. The knees have very little fat tissue to provide any insulation, and very little blood supply unlike the upper leg muscles, and once cold soaks into the bones and ligaments of your knee it is grim.. Your core could be uncomfortably hot, but it is very doubtful the warm blood supply to the legs would be hot enough to over come serious cold and wind chill on the knee lower leg. If it's cold, and I need to take the bike out, I wear tracksuit bottoms and thick, armoured overpants. I also have jeans with knee armour,, which you would think would protect the knee from some cold, but on a cold day they are insufficient. Therefore, my point was that it is very rarely, I feel cold in my torso, and my unheated jacket combined with its inner layer is fine. A heated track suit bottom, however, would arguably be as much, if not more, beneficial than a heated vest.

[@AndyManCam]

Understood. Maybe some heated trousers would be worth a spot on next years Christmas list? 😅

[@mattmutane5502]

@@tonebonetones Interesting. It also very much depends on what bike you are riding and which parts of your body are directly exposed to the frontal wind blast! I always try to have a bike with at least some leg protection (to avoid the need to stop to put waterproof trousers on if it starts raining), and on my MT10 sit quite upright, so hands and chest take the worst of the blast!)

[@Gaz1za21]

Whatever next, heated inner tyre warmers to ride throughout winter?!?👍🤣👌🥶❄️🌧☃️I like to ride through most weather but when the air temperature is below 3 degrees the risk of ice is just too great; am I missing something?…

[@mattmutane5502]

To enable us to continue to ride, as simple as that (I personally hate having large gaps between rides so this helps minimise that problem). Remember, even riding at say medium single digit ambient air temps can mean with wind chill, you're experiencing seriously negative degrees C, which can be dangerous to your core temps and ability to operate the controls and maintain attention...! Love those dry, sunny winter rides, if you can keep warm!! :) :D

[@AndyManCam]

I think the idea is more about making everything down to that point more safe and comfortable! I’ve been out recently in minus 4, and although i was comfortable temperature wise, there were a couple of squeaky bum moments as it got more icy!

[@nickfifield1]

Any updates on these products?

[@AndyManCam]

I used them throughout the upcoming Norway tour, so there’ll be plenty of real life comments to come.

[@expatbiker6598]

Are the gloves chunky or nice on the handle bar?

[@AndyManCam]

They’re really nice. Don’t feel overly chunky and still plenty of feel for the controls.

[@user-on5zm2we8q]

Do you have some more affordable ideas, lol? I still dont know how to keep my hands warm, after half an hour, theyre dead. Cant afford heated grips.

[@AndyManCam]

Ha! Im afraid not mate! I’ve tried everything and heated grips are simply the best bang for your Buck. You can get grips for like £30-40 nowadays.

[@Smijas2112]

Hoping to pick up the waistcoat when I’m back in the UK over Xmas. What size did you go for as it definitely looks a little large on you ;)

[@AndyManCam]

I went for a 54/L but Keis are sending the the next size down for me to try and get a better fit!

[@Smijas2112]

@@AndyManCam 54 is mahoosive :) Glad to hear that they’re sending you a small one - excellent service.

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah turns out I’m not as hefty as i thought i was! Which is good i suppose!!

[@garthmctavish7335]

Look awesome! When you buy your Goldwing, you'll have a heated bum too! 😉👍🍻

[@AndyManCam]

Aaaaahahahahahahaahhahhaa no.

[@davidforbes6464]

To be fair keis have nominated every man Jack and his dog who has a motorbike themed vlog...good luck though

[@AndyManCam]

I wouldn’t go that far, it’s really not that many people! But thanks very much David! 👍🏻

[@ianatkinson8464]

😎👍

[@TheSweetasanut]

Well deserved Andy

[@AndyManCam]

Many thanks Martin. Fingers crossed mate!

[@MrWouzke]

Lot of a hassle for everyday commuting?

[@AndyManCam]

Surprisingly not at all. I’ve used them almost every single time I’ve ridden to work since i got them. With the battery obviously makes getting on the go and getting off the bike at the other end slightly quicker. But even when plugging into the bike, it’s nice and quick. I also think that it would be even quicker with the full jacket as you wouldn’t need to worry about feeding the cables down the sleeves.

[@AndyTheBadgerBarton]

Nice. 🙂🙂

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers TB!

[@lipsee100]

I have a full ellecy suit,,it happens to be Warm ansd safe,,,,when it all set up it works great,,,, but it such a faff setting up I seldom bother using it... looks to me to be the same with Keis...

[@johnvaleriewelbers2995]

🤓😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 making me feel warm all over 🤓

[@AndyManCam]

That’s the effect i was hoping for! ☀️

[@BigBadLoneWolf]

Once you try heated gloves in cold weather, there is no going back to heated grips

[@mattmutane5502]

Both FTW ! :D

[@AndyManCam]

With temps the way they are recently, i have to say i agree with matt!!

[@quatron---]

Ive looked into Keis... it is so expencive :S

[@AndyManCam]

Let’s hope it’s worth it then! So far the quality and function has been far over that from far cheaper chinese made Amazon bought heated gear!

[@mrcintheuk5596]

Heated clothing is expensive, no denying, but it's an absolute game changer. I use Gerbing which has a lifetime guarantee for the electrics (not the fabric) and I believe Keis is the same (check). Buying cheap without a lifetime guarantee (that you can actually rely upon) may be a false economy. 🤷‍♂️

[@quatron---]

@@AndyManCam But what versus the Gerbing stuff, or the lesser Macna.

[@AndyManCam]

Sadly i don’t have Gerbing or Macna stuff to test!

[@AndyManCam]

I totally agree. Not much gear that gets tested to the limit as much as bike gear! With my steadily increasing experience, I’ve learned that you get what you pay for.