Angel - 3x22 "Tomorrow" Reaction

[@LiamDuke]

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[@1nelsondj]

"I wasn't thinking about you when you were here." Major Lila burn from Wesley!

[@redkarryn]

CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT LORNE CALLING ANGEL EVERY PASTRY INVENTED

[@barbarabaker1457]

Because Lorne is a wonderful pastry himself?

[@kaz555]

Lorne is most definitely a wonderful pastry

[@elisabethhutchinson2987]

Lorne is the ultimate cinnamon roll.

[@rachelespiritu4215]

"I have many thoughts and they're all thoughts of frustration." -The Joss Whedon Experience

[@Ethros64]

I never liked how Cordelia just totally abandons Wesley in these episodes. Especially after only the year before when Angel who abandoned the team and Wesley who stepped up and took charge, helped her and literally took a bullet for Gunn.

[@theadamabrams]

I agree. Why would a character whose compassion is repeatedly lauded show none whatsoever towards the person who’s basically her second-closest friend?

[@barbarabaker1457]

It was odd. I get it, Conner was probably feeling like a son, that can make you irrational, but still, it seemed like too much given the circumstances.

[@adorkability]

Yeah, I think the writers kind of forgot about the fact that Cordelia would have had words with Wesley since she wasn't there when it all went down.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

@@adorkability This is the beginning of what is colloquially known as "the character assassination of Cordelia Chase" so the fact that the writing for her start to seriously slip isn't surprising.

[@bastioncory6740]

@@quinnsinclair7028 This kinda comment is considered "Light" SPOILERS. Think about not Mentioning/Foreshadowing characters in the future. Maybe edit or delete post

[@holi117]

LOL. Cordy: this is the last test, isn't it? // Liam: WELL FAIL IT!!

[@petererickson1772]

This should be wholesome buts it's just painful. Best summary of watching a Whedon show ever.

[@jychilly]

Ah, the buffyverse. Where happiness goes to die.

[@theadamabrams]

Last episode Lilah said to Wesley, “I thought the ‘come alone’ was a nice touch. I mean, how else would you come?” and I honestly can’t decide if that was intentional foreshadowing or just coincidence. Anyway, I agree about constant relationship failures being too predictable sometimes. But Fred and Gunn are pretty solid. And Willow and Tara are back together!! I wouldn’t call Wesley and Lilah a couple at this point, but maybe it will become that.

[@lawrencewestby9229]

What a horrible, horrible place to go. Really, poor Lorne, stuck in Las Vegas.

[@barbarabaker1457]

I'll admit slot machines everywhere would give me a headache.

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

Hey, CC's home town!

[@EmoBearRights]

'Im most excited about Wes and Liliah' - you are indeed a man of taste.

[@jay1033]

IDK how but the way you said "Angel's in a coffin with the fishes" made me laugh way too much than it should have.

[@ActingHerReaction]

I SOOOO agree with you on the whole couples can be together and be interesting. I think you can introduce angst and drama and conflict without keeping them apart or breaking them up.

[@barbarabaker1457]

Favorite stable couple, both start late in but: Babylon 5 has one that's kind of epic, they have ups and downs but Bones has a really good one.

[@Befuddled_Ostrich]

@@barbarabaker1457 I agree, the relationship between Vir and Lennier was quite epic.

[@obredaanps3]

Consider yourself lucky...we had to wait 5 excruciatingly long months before the season 4 premier.😃

[@littlefox7694]

I just want to say, I _really_ appreciate how calm and nice you are towards Connor's character so far. I wish the actor looked a bit younger because I feel like sometimes it's easy to forget that he's a messed up brainwashed child who never got the chance to grow up properly but overall he's actually one of my favourite characters of any show to research. I can write pages and pages of essays on him and still find more layers to his character.

[@Gamerthon98]

I love how powerful the storylines are in the Buffyverse. The fact Doyle got killed off so early in the first season, and everybody was heartbroken from it, just shows how good the writers for the show are. Every punch the show throws at you really hits hard. Some shows try hard hitting twists, can't stick the landing, and you're sat there thinking along the lines of 'I get it, but you didn't do enough to make me care'. The Buffyverse isn't like that and it's painfully brilliant. 20 years later and these storylines are still just as able to play with our emotions says something and I love it.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

That speaks more to their frustrations with an actor in the descent of drug and alcohol addiction. Doyle's departure wasn't a stylistic choice, it was a logistics one. Glenn Quinn's substance abuse problems meant he was a nightmare to work with on set.

[@Lianspain]

I'm so ready for Lilah and Wesley...she's my favorite villain (We suppose to hate villains, but for some reason, i can't hate her) And i think the relationship that's she's creating with Dark Wesley can be really interesting in the next season, but yeah i'm quite content with her this season, and i think that when they put part of the focus of the episode of Lilah you learn new things about her and she that she's not full bad or evil, for example, the billy episode. So, yeah, super ready to see more of her and see what Liam will think about her

[@silverspike1]

And with that, Angel descends and Cory ascends.......:0 "Why can't anything go right?" Because It's a Whedon show..lol

[@dannybolton6065]

IKR.

[@sesskasays]

I haven't been commenting as much but I just wanted to say I have been loving your Buffy and Angel reactions so much. The second half of Season Three of Angel is a tough watch for me, mainly because Wesley is my favorite Buffyverse character ever and I feel so bad for him. So it's not one I rewatch as maybe some of the other seasons but it has been an absolute joy going through it with you. You are a dear friend of mine but I wanted to let you know your videos have been helping me out through some difficult times of my own these past few months. You do more than you for people. Much Love Always, Sesska

[@LiamDuke]

❤❤❤

[@lillimarq]

In the 90s and early 00s show writers and runners suffered from a misconception of so called Moonlighting Curse, based on the show Moonlighting, that suffered from drastic drop in ratings when the main will they wont they duo of many seasons got together (which was not the fault of that really, but writing getting shoddy, and having them technically together, but completely not spending time together etc) . This then went on to inform many shows of these times, and HEAVILY influenced specifically genre writing, where ppl could not possibly be happy, because where would the drama and high stakes come from. Unfortunately Buffy verse is still very much a child of this way of thinking. Luckily we are getting away for it for most part in current story telling though. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moonlighting%20curse www.scottryanproductions.com/debunking-the-moonlighting-curse/

[@countgeekula9143]

"At least they gave him a window." 🤣

[@EmoBearRights]

I agree with you the idea that happy couples have no stories there was a show in the early 00s called Medium where the progonist was a wife and mum with a stable marriage and two nice daughters and it was refreshing that the drama came from her physic powers and not her personal relationships.

[@cormorant12]

That's one of the main things that made Medium enjoyable, they had a realistic depiction of a family that was stable without being saccharin-sweet.

[@cottagepie1]

Here we go, almost time for more Buffy as well. Can't wait for more Angel.

[@girlbrains163]

I can’t wait until he gets to the next Buffy! Ugh, so close to the awesome end of S6.

[@cottagepie1]

@@girlbrains163 I know

[@claireyboo7833]

I am also here for the next cycle of buffy episodes.

[@kimwatchesstuff]

It's been killing me waiting. I'm actually worried that somebody spoiled the next episode. Bbecause I went to ask when the next episode was going to be up a few days ago and the comments are turned off on the last episode.

[@pjosepha]

7:54 Wesley couldn't keep it in his pants. The dirty boy. (Go on my son!!!)

[@NicoAngelus]

I'm with you with the idea of happy couples being interesting, that's one of the reasons why I absolutely hated Xander & Anya breaking up. I'm less bothered with Angel and Cordy here, plus the show still has Fred & Gunn at least. And I love season 3, the team dynamic is so good, and there are incredible moments, but I do have issues with the last few episodes. The main one being Cordelia. She got to be the absolute best version of herself before she left in ep 14, and then she's back but I don't fully recognize her (and it's not just the horrible hairstyle!!). The writers made her too... evolved, almost saint like, and it just wasn't as interesting. While I totally ship her and Angel, I didn't love the way they treated the romance at the end of season 3. Incredible season otherwise.

[@barbarabaker1457]

Yeah, there's a point where you leave behind a proper happily ever after trope destruction and become a trope of your own. Hard to speak I'll of such great writing but I think Whedon is afraid of relationship's.

[@holi117]

oooh here we go with the finale! Yum, Koppaberg for the win lol! I really have always loved s2 and s3 of Angel. They are definitely favourites of mine. Such a messed up ending, gah! Now onto buffy s6 finale (eeeep. covers eyes). Love all your reactions as always, Liam. Just wanted to mention I sadly had to quit all my patreons as this virus situation has played havoc with my finances. But soon as I can, I'll be right back to support my fav channels again xxx

[@JayceMaxwell]

You can't be happy without being Whedoned

[@cenedra2143]

20 years ago I was devastated at this episode and I still watch it hoping the ending changes 😂

[@karenlarkin3786]

I am with you on couples being together is not boring. But I do love this season, though there is much pain. And your reviews are excellent!

[@jjpe306]

I agree. A writer shows real flaws if they can't or won't write happiness for more than a few seconds at at time. One show that was really great at that balance was Friday Night Lights.

[@stillinhere]

It's interesting to me to hear other perspectives. At the time, the ending of Cordelia going up and Angel going down hit me in a personal way, so it was more interesting to me than just two champions getting together. It was my mindset when I watched it. I liked most of season 3. Not so much season 4, but there are great episodes there too. I think the struggle aspects rope me into shows. It's a personal preference.

[@JohtoJonnyYT]

I LOVE season 4 😍 s3 is my favorite but imo s4 is the best. Even if it made me unhappy

[@April7739]

I know Wesley and Lilah are toxic, but god, their scenes just crackle with chemistry. I love that you love Angel and Cordy. They were so close to getting their perfect romantic moment! Great reaction and discussion afterward as always, Liam!

[@genevieveking5078]

Lol Angel gets a window so he can see fishes. That's also what After show reactions mentioned during her watch of this episode.

[@jasminecutler7392]

Great video, been waiting for this..as I’m so excited for the continuation of buffy aha cant wait for your angel season 4 reactions! Just love your analysis.

[@kaz555]

Next season, Fred & Gunn Investigations 😂 A seriously frustrating episode, even Groo and Lorne left. Liam: "at least he has a window, he can see the fishes" Me: 🤣

[@robertcringle4865]

By Gru, I miss you.

[@Jontor11]

Great reaction as always Liam! I was just as frustrated as you when I saw this first time around. Angel and Cordelia are going in opposite directions...dammit. And Lorne and Groo leaving...quite a depressing season finale really. And you're right, it's hard to enjoy this episode and its happy moments when we know that everything will turn sour.

[@angelaluckd1932]

I was so glad it happened when I first saw it

[@StoryOfUsFinalDraft]

Yeah I understand a lot about when you don't gel with the Buffyverse and its relationship breakups. I love it because it's realism how many of us want love but can never find it because either crush just doesn't love you and love someone else, or the love in your relationship sways away towards someone else. It's very much reality and I like that cuz it's true. When Gunn tried to break up with Fred, all those people in the background with relationships are the ones who see in real life in the background that you don't notice then again you do . That's what makes the Buffyverse Angelverse relationships real... Good to see fall

[@cormorant12]

In real life a good portion of relationships are successful. Having none is not realistic.

[@serenity4eva89]

I adore Savage!Wes. It's really really sexy, in a twisted kinda way... and yeah, maybe I need help for thinking that this version of him is infinitely more attractive than the Bumbling ex-Watcher/Rogue Demon Hunter versions but the heart wants what the heart wants 😜 And of course, as heartbreaking as it is to see Cangel (Cordy and Angel) denied before it could truly even set sail as the wonderful ship it should've been... I still love love love the Cordy Ascending/Angel Descending visual. It's really beautiful imagery, if you can ignore the deep soul crushing pain of Whedon and Co. marooning another ship on the rocks 💔

[@slayervision2484]

It's funny how we react to different characters, I really love Groo and I was sure you would love him too, but we are unpredictable beings! :D Can't wait for season 4, it's controversial but I love it!

[@LegoGBlok]

You're weird LOL. You loved season 4???

[@genevieveking5078]

Season 4 is my least favorite. But I'm interested to see what Liam thinks.

[@JohtoJonnyYT]

@@LegoGBlok I also loved season 4. I'll defend it til I die and this is coming from someone who was severely hurt by it. But that's also why I think it's so good. I think it's the best season because of that but s3 is my favorite

[@LegoGBlok]

@@JohtoJonnyYT Crazy talk meets Crazy horse lol. However, i do respect your opinion and taste. You like, i dislike.

[@EmoBearRights]

I've always wondered how they explained why Holst isn't drained of blood - did Justice clean up the blood?

[@toddbeilby6484]

Thanks for another great season of reactions 😊

[@terri639]

The fact that they can never just let people be happy...even for a little bit...always bothered me about a Joss Whedon show. I absolutely love his shows, but I know it's just going to always be heartbreak.

[@bradleyelsken622]

Joss has said it himself: he hates humanity and wants us all to suffer. That's why he always goes for the heartbreak

[@holi117]

I really do wish that SOMEONE could be happy and in love, you know? lol. Just anyone... Any couple... Please Joss....

[@holi117]

@@bradleyelsken622 And the bastard of it all, is he is just SO good at making us fall in love with characters and their lives and relationships, that even when we anticipate him ruining us, we still fall for it... he does it so incredibly, and it just hurts so much more when he smashes it all to pieces lol

[@cormorant12]

"Joss is evil" used to be a running joke among fans. I always thought they weren't that far off, even before the latest info coming out about him. He seemed to enjoy causing pain a bit too much.

[@SNQ1989]

You know things are messed up when you ask, "what would Darla think?!" Lol

[@K-Anne_]

"Oh, boy... what's going to go wrong".... yup

[@mykashg]

I think it's so lazy when couples don't get to be together and when writers say it'll be too boring and there's no where to go with it, so couldn't agree more. One thing I noticed watching your reactions is HOW MUCH other people tell Angel and Cordy they love each other. I remembered a few occasions but not that many and it's was kinda forced even though without those moments it's so blatantly clear how they feel about each other. They're one of my favourite Buffyverse ships so on looking back that was just interesting that even though they DID feel that way, they are written so passively and that's actually kind of annoying cause it feels reductive to David and Charisma's performance. Glad you enjoyed this season as much as you did It's definitely my favourite. Season 4 does have some of my favourite episodes so can't wait for that.

[@DegrassiInstantStar]

"Why do I bother? Why do I get invested?" I've been watching for years and even still ask myself as if I've never seen the Buffyverse before.

[@EmoBearRights]

What's happening? - you weren't the first person to ask that question Liam - you won't be the last.

[@butterz5876]

Liam you should watch Mad Men. Maybe not for reaction videos but I think you'd really enjoy it. It's my third favourite TV show after Buffy and Angel.

[@filipjanik87]

I have seen all of these on Patreon. It would be a shame if the KZbin Algorithm missed out... Going through all of these videos makes me realize how many hours of entertainment you have provided to me. Thank you again Liam. Well deserved success and long may it continue. Love the like to dislike ratio! Well deserved.

[@Buffy8Fan]

BtVS S2's finale is the only season of BtVS to date that leaves off on a cliffhanger (although that can be argued as a lot of seasons of Buffy have premieres that wrap up small moments from the previous seasons). This AtS season finale is the first to date for this show that does the same thing and is a cliffhanger. Joss didn't normally do cliffhangers with BrVS or AtS as he never knew when writing the finales if the shows were coming back for their next seasons or not so he would wrap them up. The two seasons to date are arguably the only ones that have had them.

[@edouardgiudicelli2933]

Buffy8Fan season 6 ends with a cliffhanger

[@NicoAngelus]

But Angel seasons 1 & 2 both ended on a cliffhanger.

[@NicoAngelus]

@@edouardgiudicelli2933 SPOILER!

[@bremex]

Fun fact, “Skip” it’s actually Roy from The Office!!

[@88missjessica]

"Ooooh you pricks" LOL liam

[@Buffy8Fan]

I have recently come up with a theory I would like some feedback on as it could make no sense or it could be accurate. It never seemed to make sense character-wise for Cordelia to believe she could just be a higher power, so perhaps she didn't believe it, but after realizing her feelings for Angel, she used what Skip told her as an excuse to run away from dealing with the situation with Angel. Thoughts?

[@jimyeow3379]

I actually think it makes sense for Cordelia to believe she's a higher power, but not in the circumstance set up here. I think it would be far more in-character for her to agree to leave only if she gets a one hour visit to the higher plane to see whether she actually likes it. But this is Cordelia goddamn Chase. She's always wanted to be exceptional. When she became broke, she decided to become an actress. When her acting job became demeaning to her, she wanted to be Princess of Pylea. In Birthday, when Angel called her just a rich girl from Sunnydale who can't handle her visions, Cordy immediately decides to have her perfect world where she's the center of everything even though the girl in her vision may still be in danger. When Cordy sees that she is actually super important to Team Angel, without her, the entire team is in shambles, she agrees to have her visions back. . In Waiting in the Wings, Cordy has bought into her personal myth that she is extraordinary. CORDY: You know, there was a time when you thought I was the loveliest thing in the world.. WESLEY: Well, I... You're an extraordinary woman. CORDY: At ease, soldier. Just like to hear it every now and then. I was the ditziest bitch in Sunnydale, could have had any man I wanted. Now I'm all superhero-y and the best action I can get is an invisible ghost who's good with the Loohfah." . Cordy's greatest strength is that she knows her worth, but her flaw is that she also likes having her worth validated. I think Cordy was using Groo to run away from the Angel situation. But I think her decision to meet him is her forcing herself to deal with her feelings....

[@stevenmillett]

It doesn’t make a ton of sense because I saw her running away with Groo (diet-Angel) as her denying her feelings and this one was her finally accepting them and wanting to something about it. *spoilers* Your interpretation fits pretty well with the beginning of season 4 where she’s bored as shit up in heaven tho lol

[@SessVlogs]

Before I reply, I saw the word “theory” and sang your whole comment to the tune of “I Have a Theory”, so there you go. Also I’m about to hint at some spoilers for season 4 here, so anyone reading this who hasn’t seen it, do not read on! I don’t believe the decision to ascend was entirely Cordy’s, personally I choose to believe that some other power was willing her to do so. Adding on that she has anxiety over her potential relationship with Angel, as you say, that could have made her easier to sway in that direction.

[@Buffy8Fan]

​@@stevenmillett SPOILER But I don't think she is in denial. I think/am wondering if it is that she is unconsciously too scared to deal with them/Angel directly even if she claimed out loud she is ready so she uses the Higher Being excuse as out out not realizing what it would ultimately mean in all of s4 or even just early S4. I am looking at this as Groot being denial and this being realization followed by unconscious/unrealized fear.

[@Buffy8Fan]

@@SessVlogsSPOILER I like that as we don't know what kind of power Jasmine had at this point. Tying the two theories together works for me. Thanks.

[@blacktronlego]

I know Cordy's not the love of his life the way Buffy was, but they've become so close over the past few years, surely being intimate with her would make him 'perfectly happy' again. I'd say there was a lot of similarity between Wesley and Lilah sleeping together and Angel and Darla, they were both enemies and it was the result of anger and despair, at least on the part of the men, rather than love and passion.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

There comes a point where subverting the happily ever after trope just starts to feel like misery porn when you lean too far into it. Like I do get it, being happy is hard and takes work but I don't think showing people in a healthy situation working to overcome the hurdles together and maintain their relationship is boring. Both Babylon 5 and Bones do it quite well. Bones even does it with two different couples.

[@russellward4624]

How did Cordy determine Connor was a smart kid? She's talked to him for what 15 seconds?

[@russellward4624]

The window wouldn't be helpful. Theres no light at the bottom of the ocean so you cant see anything.

[@laerry1]

When you talk about parenting problems with Connor and Dawn being similar.... well you should read some fanfictions where Connor and Dawn are a pair - what a lovely couple!:-D

[@sheltondaal6425]

Tell me why I low-key shipped them... I feel like their irritating tendencies would balance each other out.

[@lazhuli5058]

Can’t wait for reactions for following seasons 👀 I love lorne it’s sad to see him go. Honestly I’d just watch a Lorne spin off, he’s such a great character.

[@russellward4624]

Cant wait for the next season to start. It does seem you miss the credits somehow so keep that up in the following seasons of Angel and Buffy. Knowing guest appearances kind of ruins things. Its the only drag about having watched them when they premiered on tv.

[@Sourcoolness]

There's so much I want to say but I can't, so instead, picture me making incomprehensible strangled noises.

[@caitlin329]

Hope there isn't a bad reason as to why the comments on the last Buffy vid were turned off :( People can be pretty unpleasant/spoilery sometimes in these comments sections (even if it's unintentional and they think they're being clever with hints), and I hope they don't ruin your experience.

[@Greencava11]

There are already a few spoilery comments in this section so no chance people will stop no matter how many times they are asked not too. In terms of the entropy comments let's hope it's not the same reasons that took him to take a few weeks off.

[@caitlin329]

@@Greencava11 Yeah it's really sad people can't seem to help themselves. I mean they could even mark them as potentially spoiler-y/hide them in a comment thread. That added to some of the sense of entitlement ppl have makes it even worse.

[@Greencava11]

@@caitlin329 Agreed

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

Of course he banged Lilah, who wouldn't bang Lilah? Although Wes' line is perhaps the most heartless post sex remark ever, you just see Lilah's mask slip for that second. Also bye-bye Groo who leaves with such quiet dignity you actually want him to stay. So the Angel sinks into the darkness and the (part) demon ascends into the heavens.

[@williamcrow9713]

Oh man, I am so ready for your final 4 episodes of Buffy Season 6!

[@EmoBearRights]

I'm a little scared.

[@justkiddinghigh5]

Just curious, have you ever seen Twin Peaks? You should check it out and possibly react!

[@Jailands]

I can't even enjoy this, cause something is gonna get wrong. You've spoken like a true Whedon show veteran.

[@razycrandomgirl]

I'm just here to say uh-oh.

[@LegoGBlok]

Indeed. Season 4 cometh...

[@genevieveking5078]

Yes. Light spoliers; but crazy stuff is coming during Liam's next round of Buffy reactions! 😦

[@barbarabaker1457]

Agreed, at first it was realism, but there's a point where ending the happily ever after trope becomes a happily never after trope. But he is a brilliant sadist who has relationship issues and I've heard in long series actors get Really bored having a romance with the same person as it's not a real relationship for them, just a job. Same time I know plenty of people that last, have ups and downs but last. At least half are fascinating. Other half a mix of dull and super romantic vomit bubble but they're happy, just maybe the other half are better for tv. Though I have done a dull couple surrounded by entertaining friends and massive challenges and it worked. Bad example though as he dies kind of early so no way to know if it would last like the one most likely to succeed post novels. Never expected to patch that one back up but with all that happened it suddenly made sense in a way it never had before. Babylon 5 and Bones have at least one each. Up and downs in the latters case but works out and I won't say which of course. And a lot more non romantic family works out. The Incredibles covers both truths. Think I hate Justine for encouraging Conner to do that and keeping up the lie. It's where I lost my last shred of pity for her. There is a lot they can do isn't there? Good luck guessing muhahahaha. 🎶"Where do we go, from heeerrrreee?"🎶 Glad you got an intriguing surprise btw at least. You could make it a double season review as another charity stream, but them I always miss streams oops, nevermind 😅. Oh well.

[@sebastienriviere7371]

I think you are a little unfair with the couple trope. In Btvs, you have Willow and Oz during 3 seasons, Willow and Tara for 3 seasons (to date), Anya and Xander for 4 seasons. Most of the time, they are perfectly happy together. They still are very young. I don't know a lot of people that find the right person while they were only 20. Plus, I don't really care for the couples, I'd rather see happy single character. Personally the trope that annoys me is that a character can't be happy if he / she is not in a relationship...

[@shapeshifter7676]

Wesley is the best character ever

[@russellward4624]

But Friends is a comedy. Happiness is a key part of the show. Angel and Buffy are drama's. They need drama. Happiness is kind of the opposite of drama.

[@maverickrogan5091]

More Buffy season 6 soon please

[@nilesknives6484]

And just like that, a season that started with Team Angel as a family ended with Team Angel scattered. But season 4 is where things are gonna be a challenge.

[@holi117]

I used to have a real dislike for s4, and on some level I still do. BUT, after a recent rewatch via some reactors I remembered how many fun, cool, and awesome episodes there actually are in the season, and how many amazing moments there are, too. It's still not my fav, but I definitely have come to feel it doesn't deserve ALL the hate. Only for that ONE plotline lol

[@Jontor11]

Uh oh Niles. That's kind of a spoiler. Don't do that to Liam.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

@Fauxindigo Yeah, when a plotline makes me want to wash my eyes out with bleach I feel like the goodwill of any other quality the season might have is doused.

[@Brandyalla]

It's okay. Cordy comes back in season 7 and it is epic

[@barbarabaker1457]

Remember the leprechauns making that rainbow to help her escape the heavens? So touching!

[@blackkatt777]

I definitely did not like Cornelia and Angel together, and I was pissed at Cordy for how she treated groo/gru she broke his heart. He deserved better. I love the ending with her ascending and Angel descending.

[@dancingjoy0788]

i loved season 3 as a whole, but wasn't a huge fan of this finale. cordelia's ascension seemed random and forced. connor is extremely unlikable and hard to root for. and wes being off on his own/separated from the group is not fun/kinda sad to see.

[@ceciliagio]

Angel and Cordelia suddenly "in love" it feels so rushed, they work great as friends/family bond but not as a couple. And Cordelia as a higher power is so corny and really ridiculous, it doesn't make any sense

[@sarahxo2317]

I agree it seems really rushed to me. I feel the Cangel ship was forced as they had to change Cordelia’s character into a mary sue type to be a partner for Angel.

[@latraeosborne3287]

It wasn't suddenly. It was building since season 1

[@JohtoJonnyYT]

Are you kidding me? This was the least rushed romance in the buffyverse. You want rushed? Oz fell in love with willow at first glance, tara and willow first meeting, angel and buffy first few episodes of the show, doyle in love with cordy first meeting, gru and cordy right away... shall I go on? This was the slowest, most believable build up in EITHER series and it's the best pairing as such. They make each other better. They confide in one another. Unparalleled levels of care. It made WAYYY more sense than buffy and angel (which I was never a fan of because it was so forced even though the two HARDLY GOT ALONG EVER but ooooo forbidden romance)

[@ceciliagio]

@@JohtoJonnyYT For me it was built up as a great friendship, for the things you mentioned. I never got romantic feelings from them but a love as a friends/family.

[@JohtoJonnyYT]

@@ceciliagio you know what they say... marry your best friend