Angel Road: Fallen Angel

[@namenamename390]

"Just 11 trains a day" this sounds like luxury to people in rural areas

[@tlillis4]

Some of the largest cities in the US don’t have 11 trains a day. It’s a matter of perspective.

[@namenamename390]

@@tlillis4 yeah, I first wanted to make fun of the US, but I do that too often lol. Houston gets three trains a WEEK

[@catfish552]

"Oh crap, I've missed THE train..."

[@juanescobar8123]

Denton and reddish south get one train a week

[@1963TOMB]

In Brigg in Lincolnshire, we get some on Saturdays!

[@Keithbarber]

I've got footage of the last train departing Angel Road in 2019 and the signal turning red after it departed so saw Angel Road "die" and was one of the last ever people to stand on its platform

[@keith800]

Perhaps you should put that up on U tube.

[@nickbarber9502]

Oddly,I was on that last train,and we share a surname.

[@Keithbarber]

@@nickbarber9502 never know, we may be distant cousins but I haven't researched my family tree

[@richardpentelow655]

Guys, stop now.

[@nw5835]

Did it 'die' after hearing one of your appalling jokes.

[@66PHILB]

Thanks so much Jago. Angel Road was my (very local station). I recognised the locations you stood in for every shot of this video. When Angel Road closed, I asked Enfield Council's Highways Department if I could have the small road sign on Montagu Road which directed pedestrians to the station, complete with BR double-arrow logo. They very kindly took it down, cleaned it up and even delivered it to me by hand! Along with a photo of the DoT's statutory Railways Act 2005 Proposal By Operator To Close Angel Road Station from the claasified ads section of the 22/8/18 edition of the Enfield Independent newspaper, it is my own little piece of local history. Meridian Water was heavily used last Sunday by thousands of people attending an event at the nearby Drumsheds venue. I was trying to get home by bus at the time!

[@kaitlyn__L]

Oh that’s lovely!

[@getmetothegeek4066]

Nice story. Yes, I saw a KZbin video recently from a big gig at the Drumsheds, so M Water will be well used on gig nights.

[@phil2544]

I blame Geoff for including this station in his 'least used' series. If he hadn't highlighted it it might still be open. Would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those meddling kids.

[@keiththorpe9571]

"It's a fairly bleak and inhospitable location, surrounded by industry" But 600 yards south...Unicorns farting glitter and belching rainbows, huh?

[@JimBobLandi]

With the massive redevelopment going on down there, it’s kind of true!

[@CorvoFG]

It’s being redeveloped TF. It’ll be caramel lattes soon and all the nice Greek places in the area will have gone.

[@AlexWindsor]

That is the plan, but whether it will happen is uncertain with this whole pandemic thing. Last time I was in the area, about 2 years ago, it looked like they were building a new city from scratch with lots of huge luxury apartment blocks going up, new roads and everything. Meridian Water was built as part of all of that. Similar thing is happening in Battersea with the Northern line extension.

[@tomthornton6259]

@@AlexWindsor true, though unlike Battersea, it's far enough out not to be really desirable and completely unaffordable - it's just effectively unaffordable! Not much has happened yet, and I've been passing through a fair amount the last few years, which is surprising considering how rapid projects at Tottenham Hale & Ponders End are. Suppose we'll have to wait a few years more to see if anything's happened, or whether it'll just be a more convenient link to IKEA!

[@desapole]

​@@AlexWindsor meridian water station was not built as a part of all the regeneration that's been built in the area. it's a standalone project as part of a massive (10,000 homes according to enfield council) brownfield redevelopment project by the same name which hasn't been built yet bar the station and some cultural stuff like a big music venue and film studios. construction for phase 1 has only just kicked off. so the buildings you're talking about, i'm assuming tottenham hale, went up at a similar time as the station but don't really have any connection to it

[@lordmuntague]

So... If the platforms are still there, and passenger trains pass through... does that make Angel Road the busiest disused station? Quick Jago, grab that thread before Marshall sees it!

[@SouthPaw1805]

Not by a long stretch. That "honour" surely has to go to Kings Cross Thameslink.

[@peebee143]

Mr. Marshall had his foot in during the building of the new third line to the new station, including a couple of bridges built.

[@kwlkid85]

@@SouthPaw1805 What about something like Grosvenor Rd Station on the approach to Victoria?

[@SportyMabamba]

“Busiest disused station” has to be one of the Ghost Stations on the Underground, surely? My money is on City Road (adjacent to Angel) or British Museum (adjacent to Holborn)..

[@SouthPaw1805]

@@SportyMabamba Mmm...Most of them have had their platforms removed though, whereas Kings Cross Thameslink's are still intact.

[@garycook5071]

In the parallel universe Angel Road is on the Viking Line

[@grahamroffey1566]

With Angels wearing Viking hats as the station Art work 👍🤣

[@peterbarlow7781]

Quality comment! 😂

[@anthonydefreitas6006]

@@grahamroffey1566 I believe they call them Valkyrie's

[@dronespace]

💪

[@simonwinter8839]

I Live on the Hertford Road which is not very far away and I had no idea Angel Road had closed. This should give you all an idea of just how insignificant this station was.

[@LolBot720]

Literally last night I was looking at the tube and rail map wondering where Angel Road had gone because I was only aware it was being redeveloped, not that it had been replaced and closed entirely. I spent ages looking at it thinking "is it so disused they don't even mark it?" before noticing that I didn't recognise this "Meridian Water" station.

[@highpath4776]

Meridian Water does sound like it should be in Greenwich. (re-igniting that Millwall and North Greenwich problem again !)

[@Rog5446]

I never thought that Jago could surpass his video on Thamesmead, as being the most depressing place in or around London? Bravo Jago, you surprised me yet again.

[@JagoHazzard]

I aim to please.

[@zachmakesstuff9866]

Well, now we know what happened to west Croydon’s platform 2. It’s being held hostage for meridian water’s platform one

[@Pez1979]

Had the pleasure of using this station everyday for 3 weeks back in March 1997, I was doing work experience at the nearby Coca-Cola Manufacturing Plant! Me and my two school friends would pay just 5p for a permit to travel and hope the guard wouldn't be present and therefore have to pay the remainder of the fare lol

[@foowashere]

"Once Upon a Time in the West" feelings when the train slowly pulls away to a muted clickety-clack.

[@dangerousandy]

It’s no use saying that you don’t know nothing They’re still gonna get you if you don’t do something

[@foowashere]

@@dangerousandy I was more thinking of the western movie, but Dire Straits always checks out. :)

[@CalvinsWorldNews]

Made a trip to once when I first moved to London, there was an MFI (also now closed) and I felt I should have brought a camera with grainy black and white film to capture the trip. You could tell it was acres of land in industrial decline that would soon be swept away. Which of course is what has happened.

[@channelsixtysix066]

Dingy, Desolate, Dangerous and Depressing - the title of Jago's old crappy stations segment.

[@kaitlyn__L]

I’ve always had a soft spot for places like this as a teenager. If I had nowhere to be I could just as easily listen to music and read a book in a place like this or in a nice park. Now I’m older I definitely go for the nice park. But being able to get some time away from home was nice enough all by itself back then, and I often liked people-watching a lesser-trafficked area or noticing signs of life (both human and inhuman). Or even things like noticing when the “keep out we have security” signs got replaced because they’d become too tattered or they had to change a phone number or so on. Now that being said, I would totally go for living in a block of modern flats with a train station like THAT integral to the development. Right now I live in a modern flat with a modern train station about a mile away and that’s like on the edge of being a bit annoying to get to.

[@UKTransport232]

I actually visited there, loved the fact it had a PERTIS machine still which not many other stations still have.

[@mathewperring]

As a former resident of the near by area (although never actually used this particular station) it was nice to see some of these familiar sites. Would love to see some more of the Lea Valley in the future.

[@JagoHazzard]

I’m currently researching the Lea Navigation, as it happens...

[@66PHILB]

What a great idea. Jago, my mum used to work for Ruberoid in Brimsdown. They made roofing materials and had a paper mill. I mention it because they had an inlet from the River Lee for barges to bring raw materials and collect products.

[@bobstacey9311]

I worked at Johnson Matthew at Brimsdown in the early 80s and would use the Hertford East to Liverpool St train on the odd Friday when we had a works pi## up, later I commuted from Broxbourne into Tottenham Hale in 1996 and that line from Cheshunt onwards was a pretty dismal industrial wasteland. When travelling into Liverpool St, there is a high level station just before, that never seems to have any passengers get off or on.

[@miked351947]

@@bobstacey9311 The high level station sounds like Bethnal Green to me. Btw I worked in Lockfield Avenue Brimsdown in 1967 and used to cycle over the level crossing. There was only 2 tracks.

[@miked351947]

@@JagoHazzard I look forward to seeing the fruits of your research Jago. Keep up the good work 👏

[@boohaka]

I’ve worked in Edmonton many moons ago. It’s hardly changed by the look of your video, just as bleak and chaotically industrial! It sorely needs an Angel!

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

It is okay Angel Road. Jago’s comment section love every station.

[@tedsmart5539]

Exciting to see that Edmonton in the UK is as big a wasteland as Edmonton in Canada.

[@ajs41]

Edmonton in London is probably one of the most depressing places in England.

[@rockerjim8045]

At least you don't live in Moncton NB

[@domenicogaldo6065]

that´s due to the ´Great Cambridge Road´ (A10) divide! Having lived in Enfield many years ago, I know that area well.

[@desapole]

​@Miles Holder on the whole it's a bit of a pit but it has a few gems and a particularly bright future

[@KevinTheCaravanner]

@@ajs41no, that accolade goes to Jaywick.

[@Tomlinsky]

Never used the station once when I lived in the area. The entrance seemed to be at the arse-end of nowhere. The only time I ever recall seeing anyone appear or disappear from the entrance was when bands played at the Cooks Ferry Inn. And I believe that ended in the late 70's if memory serves! That and drinkers relieving themselves in the entrance as they ambled back along the North Circular to more residential Edmonton was the most life observed personally.

[@SparkieGoth]

As a female who relieves herself standing up in the traditional male posture, I'd relieve myself in that spot. ☺

[@DaraM73]

I used the station once, but in mistake for the overland service station. The walk back to civilisation felt like the French retreat from Moscow (no, I’m not French but was metaphorically frozen in a tundra landscape)

[@wad951]

This part of the A406 was a vision of hell to me as a child, the road rose steeply and bent over the railway. On the left were British Oxygen, MK Electric and the gas works. Angel Road station actually moved from one side of Angel Road (A406) to the other without actually moving! The new A406 bridge was built nearer to the gas works on the other side of the station building.thus, the door to the platforms became the entrance and the door to the street became the way to th e platform. Absolute magic, hey presto!

[@miked351947]

Don't forget Main Gas Appliances factory on the land that is now IKEA

[@highpath4776]

@@miked351947 I have a number of Main Gas Appliances, annoyed I cannot get spares for them

[@MrDavil43]

Me too! I had family all around that area and the smells of the gas works and other industries plus all the exhaust fumes from road vehicles of that era made it very unpleasant. I couldn't understand why anyone would want to live there, but I learned the reason as I got older...

[@1258-Eckhart]

Just re visuals: thanks so much for the 317 at the end.

[@grassytramtracks]

It looks like the sort of place where you'll want an angel to take you to the other side

[@JFinney]

Managed to get a visit in to Angel Road about 4 weeks before it closed, a rather quiet and average station but still one of the more unique stations I've visited

[@brianartillery]

Fascinating as always. Bleak isn't the word for it - the location looks like where Dante would catch a train to the city of Dis. Very pleased that you managed to mention 'Allotments' in this video, too. Nice one.

[@nirgunapa56]

"The station was just a couple of platforms and a bus shelter" Welcome to my world! A lot of the stations in the South Wales Valleys are just that.

[@simonwinter8839]

In order for the shelter on the platform to be a bus shelter it would need a Pacer to turn up !! Am I funny or what?!! I'll get my coat.

[@atraindriver]

A lot of the stations across the whole country are just that. For many of them adding a bus shelter would be an improvement. Londoners complaining how hard done by they are in the public transport stakes always amuses me. They really haven't a clue.

[@simonwinter8839]

@@atraindriver Quite so. Just a shortish work from the depth of despair which is Angel Road is Edmonton Green where you can access a very good Overground and National rail service and many bus services and two dedicated night bus services with direct access to either London Bridge or Trafalgar Square. As you pointed out try telling some rural folk that Londoner's are hard done by when they have no public transport at all.

[@antonydicesare4632]

Who doesn't love a midweek jago production

[@theheadshot45]

Tears of joy at the birth of a brother, never alone from that time...

[@srfurley]

I think one of the most depressing stations I ever was Cargo Fleet, also near a river, and also now closed. I wonder if that one will re-open some day with the re-development of the area.

[@richierex]

Yes, and the next station, South Bank, since demolished and moved 200 yards towards Redcar. Grangetown and Warrenby Halt were also awful. Although Warrenby lives on at Lewisham on the NYMoors railway

[@allenwilliams1306]

Bring back its trolleybuses, too!

[@joannaatkinson235]

Love this sort of station and story, for all the doomed nature of the developments and dystopian visuals - they are the draw. Lovely end to my Wednesday!

[@MrGreatplum]

That’s the sort of place that you need a tetanus booster for!

[@martinhall60]

Thank you for another very interesting and informative program as always. I look forward to your next video. Thank you .

[@loftyD]

Had to go to Angel Road once whilst at uni, and was very eerie! Couldn't wait to get back to Barnes!

[@simonwinter8839]

Yes,there's a lot to be said of Barnes. I once had the best Sunday lunch I have ever had in a pub to the east of Barnes Bridge Station. It was next to the river but I'm damned if I can remember the name of it.Still if it follows the trend the name of the pub will have probably changed by now anyway !!

[@mbrady2329]

Roehampton graduate?

[@loftyD]

@@mbrady2329 yep!

[@paulqueripel3493]

Either the Waterman's arms, on the corner by the roundabout, just reopened. Or the Bull's Head next door,a jazz pub. Both face the river on the other side of the road. The only pub near Barnes railway bridge on the river bank is the White Hart, but that's west of the station.

[@jlscoyserney]

After the local venue, Drumsheds, kicks out there are roughly 5000 people trying to use meridian water all at once!

[@Thomas828]

Thank you for reminding me of what a dismal place Angel Road was. A dystopian dump with its pièce de résistance being the scrap yard. I for one do not mourn the closure of Angel Road.

[@Boabywankenobi]

A tremendous companion piece to Geoff Marshall's onsite Least Used Station video. That might be a wonderful lane for you, taking his Least Used's and doing exactly this, a full back story video. As said, wonderful content as always.

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

Now the least used station in London is Sudbury and Harrow Road on Chiltern Railways.

[@Roblilley999]

Wasn't it one on the Greenwich branch line?

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

@@Roblilley999 No.

[@danielchin4421]

Isn't it South Greenford tho?

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

@@danielchin4421 Apparently so. Thanks nephew Dan for correcting me. Don’t take the nephew bit seriously.

[@danielchin4421]

@@DaveDVideoMaker I'd make a guess and say you're an Uncle Roger fan, no worries

[@jayja45]

The only station I’ve ever gotten a permit to travel from (as a souvenir).

[@visionsofhere3745]

Now they've had their moment of glory, starring in one of your videos, hopefully those ancient and decrepit class 317s can take the one way journey to the scrapyard they really needed decades ago. Some of them still have their BR branded ashtrays in the toilets...

[@HertsCommuter]

They carted me to and from London on the Great Northern Line for 27 years. Nothing special but very functional.

[@iankemp1131]

The 317s weren't bad at all - seats were comfortable and they nipped along pretty well between stations (often reaching a max near Angel Road), even if the seats didn't line up with the windows. A bonus on the Hertford East line was that you could travel in First Class for the Standard Class fare as the route is standard class only. Remains to be seen if the new stock is as comfortable and how much seating will be transverse rather than longitudinal. The walkthrough layout will be good though.

[@jimtuite3451]

@@iankemp1131 I like, and still like the 317s. Comfy seats, toilets, big windows, good heaters... what more do you want? Lets see if their replacements offer the same amount of comfort

[@atraindriver]

@visions of here Those "ancient and decrepit" 317s, as you put it, are younger than the units I drive on a daily basis out in the sticks and which will continue to be used on a daily basis for years to come...

[@Jo3man96]

Uploaded just as i get home from work. Excellent!

[@andersonarmstrong2650]

I grew up round the corner from Angel Road, opposite the huge gasworks which closed end of 60's. The branch to Edmonton Green also caje up around that time, leaving a footpath from Montagu Road to Plevna Road. The entire area was manufacturing so industrial decline made a hinterland of the surroundings. Angel Road was one of those stations that only factory workers ever used..though as a family we used it once and I used it late 70's to get to away school football matches. The gasworks is where Meridian Water must be now. If the tube went to Waltham Cross it would've enabled Tottenham Hotspur to redevelop its stadium much sooner. Such is life.

[@mr51406]

0:21 It’s a fairly bleak and inhospitable location… It’s located in Edmonton… You just made everyone in Canada laugh out loud, Jago! 🇨🇦😅

[@robertwilloughby8050]

I'm happy to see you post. I genuinely asked whether you were still with us, Jago. Missing even one day can be a little scary.

[@SlishSlashSlush]

Yes. Give Angel Road Station some love!.

[@iankemp1131]

It would have been very interesting to have a Victoria Line branch to Waltham Cross and even over the old line from Angel Road to Edmonton Green and Enfield Town. Quite possibly cheaper than reinstating the third track to Meridian Water. After all, the Victoria already reaches Northumberland Park Depot. At the time it may have seemed unnecessary, but it would be immensely useful now as the two-track main line has real problems fitting the stopping services in among 4 Stansted Express services and 2 Cambridge trains per hour. Some Victoria trains turn back at Seven Sisters - they would have been much more useful running to Tottenham Hale and then northwards. A bit like the idea of a southern branch to Chelsea and Wimbledon (though I feel Clapham Junction could have been more useful as a hub).

[@andersonarmstrong2650]

I agree.

[@sideshowrod1312]

I used to use this station in the mid-90's and believe me, it was scary af walking to the exit at night. Used to breath a sigh of relief when I made it to the road (with cars and lights)

[@musicforaarre]

A most excellent dissertation about a specific subject. Awesome. Aarre Peltomaa

[@patrickyorke7339]

Thanks Jago, depressing to observe maybe, but a truly wonderful insight into it's demise.

[@birdbrain4445]

I never used or went to Angel Road (and clearly, I was not alone there.) Reallly not a surprise this station was shut down - the location is not just inconvenient but, man. It was a strong contender for the worst station in London before its closure. Surrounded by this super busy road and industrial areas (including presumable brownfield sites), only accessible via footbridge off said busy road, not near anywhere you'd want to be. It is just really depressing as you say, I would not want to have to use this station, especially at night. The irony of the name 'Angel Road' is not lost on me. The most grim, depressing station in London has a name like that? That's something out of the pages of fiction. Also, those are some massively oversized platforms lmao; how does *Angel Road* get platforms like that but various incredibly busy stations across the city struggle with overcrowded platforms? Great video!

[@ronwhitmill7068]

Edmonton, for a time, had three stations, not including Angel road.. These were Edmonton Green low level, Edmonton Green High level (Now Edmonton Green) and Silver Street (located between upper and lower Edmonton). Angel road was once linked to Lower Edmonton via a link chord but that link chord was lifted when Edmonton Green (low level) station was closed and demolished.

[@66PHILB]

Ron that chord from Edmonton Green low level is now the (rather straight) route of a footpath from the Green across Montagu Road and down to the Angel Gardens playground and Community Garden. as shown at 3:06. Jago goes to all the best places you know!

[@andersonarmstrong2650]

Only true residents of Edmonton know that link. By the Low Level Edmonton station was the Cross Keys, the roughest pub in Edmonton. I think the rest of Edmonton has caught up with it now. My brother had a paper round covering the streets nearest Angel Road, and I used to go with him.

[@onikankrumah]

What a trip down memory lane . I lived in one of those nearby housing assoc. tower blocks and took the train from Angel to my night job from 9pm to 12am. the last train left at 12am sharp and if you missed it you were out of luck.

[@Leonard_Smith]

Delightful digital documentary detailing decline, decay and de-commissioning...

[@para2440]

we lived in Northumberland Park and I remember that stretch of line with affection, it was watching the trains along that stretch of track that was to prove the reason for my subsequent addiction to all things railway lol another great video

[@lapiswake6583]

Awesome video. I knew of the station from Geoff Marshall, but watching your footage makes me want to go see Angel Road before it is swallowed by growth.

[@wentonmastermind]

Hello, Jago - I'm glad you found the station so inspiring - er, sort of. Regarding Edmonton being 3/4 mile from Edmonton Village, how about the Oxford & Aylesbury tramway? Eight miles from Aylesbury and 20 miles from Oxford.

[@PANTECHNICONRecordings]

Depressing stations, eh? Ever been to Ardwick?

[@dukeofaaghisle7324]

I often used to whizz through Angel Road from the mid-1980s until about 10 years ago, when I moved away from Hertfordshire. It was a bleak and unmemorable spot then. I have a vague suspicion that Hertford East services used to stop there occasionally, but can’t recall with certainty. The faster way to and from the Hertford branch was to change at Broxbourne. Also floating in my mind is whether the early morning train out of Bishop’s Stortford to Stratford may also have stopped there.

[@kevinmottram9491]

I can't help thinking that the Community Garden could do with a touch of weeding?

[@markvandermeijen-page4111]

We moved to London when I was around 5 and we lived a stone's throw from Angel Rd station. I can remember playing in the fields which used to be more-or-less underneath the flyover which now leads up to the station entrance. The entrance in those days was further South (I think it was at the other end of the platforms) and I recall it being pretty busy in the evenings - this would have been the late 60's and there was a large manufacturing base in that area, with many large factories and hundreds of workers who used the train to get to and from work. I can also remember walking along the closed link section which ran between Angel Rd and Lower Edmonton (now Edmonton Green) - approx where the three tower blocks are on the horizon in the movie. It's paved over and landscaped now, but in those days the railway track & sleepers were still there. Edmonton used to be a great little 'burb, but it deteriorated when all the factories closed in the 70's and the green spaces started to be built on. It was a s**thole of a place when I left: I doubt it's gotten any better in the intervening period. The opening of the huge Ikea just near Angel Rd station should have increased the passenger traffic. It certainly would have been easier to use the train than dragging large purchases on the single decker hopper bus that linked the store to Tottenham Hale! I moved over to Edmonton Green in the early 70's although several family members stayed in that area until the early 80's, so I often visited. I stayed on the other side of Edmonton until 2014, when I moved down here to NZ. I'm not sure I'd recognise half of London now, if I were to come back. It's been great to see shots of my old stomping grounds though.

[@MopzeyTilInfinity]

I see my tower block yay

[@GeorgeChoy]

meridian water, sounds like a Barrat housing estate.

[@influenceitconsultingptylt2080]

Totally agree. Has to be one of the most depressing stations you've reported upon.

[@lameduck3630]

The coach company is Davian, and you could have got a shot of THFC's stadium which is nearby.

[@RedfishUK1964]

Never used the Station but we used to get off the bus there on the North Circular to walk to White Hart Lane, I always remember it as being grim.

[@AtoZbyLocalBus]

Fourth platform is for when Crossrail 2 is built. But will it be opened by 2030, as originally planed. Also is there any other plans for routing of the Victoria Line that never happened, and that you have not yet covered in a video?

[@gregkiteos1936]

I went there in May 2019. It really had nothing going for it; with just one entrance/exit and no step-free access, it really was a shadow of its former self. I know the area quite well and didn't take my camera for fear of me getting mugged. Because it was a peak-time only station, I had to walk to Northumberland Park to get the train back to Hertfordshire. Interestingly, you can still see from the road bridge the land where the railway ran towards Edmonton Green and Enfield Town.

[@kelvinhoughton7953]

They also renumbered Tottenham Hale platforms 2, 3 and 4. The platform 1s were intended to be installed at the re quadrupling of the line to Broxbourne as part of Crossrail 2 which you mentioned however CR2 plans have been mothballed as part of the condition of tfl getting extra funding due to covid losses. CR2 may or may not happen now as I said mothballed not scrapped plans, to fit plat 1 at Meridian Water would mean moving the adjacent road slightly looking at the odd angle the station looks

[@andrewfrancis3591]

I remember working through there in the mid 80's There used to be a scrapyard down side with an old Cortina on the top of the pile the curtesy light always on. Angel roads most remarkable feature!

[@AtheistOrphan]

2:12?

[@andrewfrancis3591]

@@AtheistOrphan ?

[@najhydro]

From a guy living in Edmonton (mainly closer to Angel Road and Meridian Water), I had never used Angel Road ever. The only times I would see it is passing trains through a track near a nearby Tesco or something.

[@ed_menno]

Another fab video, i think Geoff covered it once as well, not sure, but the two of you have such a different approach to things it never feels repetitive. It's just over a hundred metres from the end of Angel Road platform to the beginning of Meridian Water. I see it as the same station moved along a bit, just as happenend at Bromsgrove and Forres which kept their names. Meridian Water promotes the development, but i feel this isn't about the loss of a station but the creation of a new one at Angel Road.

[@demitrilevantis3427]

Nice to hear you mention my hometown, Bishop's Stortford. Being located next to Stansted Airport, it's a nicely placed station to get into Liverpool Street in less than 45 mins. Very informative as always, mate.

[@robbiemorrison7085]

I still have a paper ticket to this station

[@HSMiyamoto]

People talk about preserving the old, but Angel Road station looks sad with nothing having been done besides painting yellow X's across the platform edge. Reminiscent of the white X's painted on the ends of an airport runway when it is closed.

[@CharlieFlemingOriginal]

Just had a HUGE shock... No, I didn't touch the centre rail of the Central Line... I thought Jago Hazard had waaaay more subscribers than 123K. Maybe a map needs to be made to find the subscribe button with a diagram of what it looks like. BRILL VIDEO BTW.

[@JagoHazzard]

Thanks!

[@jamesharmer9293]

Thanks for this Jago. I'd forgotten how grim Edmonton really is.

[@stepbackandthink]

You neglected to mention the massive stink from the nearby sewage works

[@Sim0nTrains]

Brilliant video on Angel Road Station, did managed to visit the station before it closed

[@ianmcclavin]

I went to Angel Road in 2018, just over a year before it closed, and tbh, I was glad to get away!

[@sr6424]

Really interesting. Stations near factories are becoming a thing of the past. The one I know well is Bordesley in Birmingham. You would see well used rush hour trains as late as the 1980s. All the factories have gone so are the passengers.m

[@LesD9]

Except when Blues are playing at home!

[@stuartwhite8074]

Hi Jago, Great video as usual. Have you thought of an interesting one at St Johns, near Lewisham? All sorts of changes have happened (including a crash) over the years.

[@Krzyszczynski]

One reason (not mentioned in the commentary) for the line being unpopular was that a much shorter route (with better-sited stations) had opened in the early 1870s, between Edmonton and the new terminus at Liverpool Street. The old roundabout route through Clapton and Stratford was hopelessly inconvenient - and more expensive when fares were charged by the mile.

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Thank you memories of Tottenham Hail used to live on a boat Stone lock did love Walthamstow marshes 😊

Fun fact: You'll find the "non-standard" 5 ft gauge still in Finnland and rounded down to nearest cm in ex-Soviet countries.

[@itstimeforham]

I live at Tottenham Hale and have to drive past both Angel Road and Meridian Water. It’s so unbelievably bleak and the worst possible way to enter ‘London’.

[@nlemecfc]

Also that all happened so quietly I didn't even know this has taken place despite living in Tottenham (near Seven Sisters) and driving past the old station regularly as well as to the Tesco's and IKEA opposite Meridian. I did use Angel Road once on a visit to the Recycling Centre.

[@jamesrichardson476]

We used to commute from Waltham Cross into Liverpool Street living, as we did, in Waltham Abbey. I have to say that "uninspiring" was a pretty fair description of the stretch of line from Tottenham Hale northwards...

[@stephenleader8065]

There is a station called Longcross, near Staines. In all my years of repairing a machine at that station I only ever saw one person use that station.

[@highpath4776]

you spent HOW long repairing a machine !

[@iankemp1131]

It served an adjacent defence establishment. So at inmuster and outmuster it was pretty well used. Otherwise it was in the middle of nowhere. But I believe houses are now being built on the site, which would seem sensible - sustainable transport easily available.

[@AtheistOrphan]

It’s officially Surrey’s least-used station.

[@stephenleader8065]

@@highpath4776 I never did get that part, I waited for ages.

[@stephenleader8065]

@@iankemp1131 I think that establishment is now a film studio. Harry Potter was filmed there as well as many other famous films.

[@jeffsimon9594]

My London A-Z is a few years old so I had no idea it had closed and was actually preparing to alight there tomorrow for a music gig just a little east in South Chingford. Now I am not quite sure how to get there from where I am. SO THERE, Angel Rd WAS a useful station ( just not for enough people I guess....)

[@luciadegroseille-noire8073]

The G.N&E was not non - standard, I happen to know. Original standard gauge was measured across the outside of the rails and was five feet: when the flanges on wheels migrated to the inside of the rails, the measurement was adjusted.

[@richardgill1309]

I used to live 5 minutes from Angel Road.and l would have to go to Tottenham Hale every time I caught the train . I only got the train from there once and I can confirm it was the most depressing station I had ever been to, challenged only by Turkey Street station .

[@SouthPaw1805]

Up until the mid-90s, Angel Road was served every 30 minutes by the Liverpool Street - Hertford East services. Unfortunately, it's on a two track section of railway, so when they increased the Stansted Express to every 15 minutes, Northumberland Park saw its service reduced to hourly and Angel Road got cut back to peak hours only, which is how it ended up in the state it was at closure.

[@jimtuite3451]

@@SouthPaw1805 Yes, the Stansted Express was the killer for Angel Road and Northumberland Park but the repositioning of the Angel Road entrance made it as good as useless

[@PlanetoftheDeaf]

Turkey Street seems ok to me now. The name always makes me smile too 😁

[@DeRepear]

Of course, Northumberland Park will never truly die off as it occasionally gets extremely busy when Spurs are playing at home. It's a key station for those travelling to the stadium from Essex, Herts and beyond.

[@richardgill1309]

@@PlanetoftheDeaf I used to go to school just up the road from Turkey Street. Back then it was surrounded by wasteland,(they have built housing there now). The station was just two platforms and one shelter one the London bound side which was always full of special brew cans and a strong smell of urine.

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

Howdy from Edmonton, Alberta! Funny how names work.

[@stepbackandthink]

You mean funny how colonisation works.

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

@@stepbackandthink eh... I guess lmao

[@alejandrayalanbowman367]

A lot of the former Eastern Counties stations are situated well away from the centres of the towns they serve for one very good reason - the land was much cheaper than nearer the town centres.

[@iankemp1131]

Plus it went along the Lea/Lee Valley, making it straight, level and cheap and easy to construct. So it could have been a fast railway, but generally wasn't. Even in BR days it was largely limited to 80 mph. It also became increasingly crowded as the Stansted Express took off (pardon the pun). The Cambridge services were speeded up more than 15 minutes after switching to the slightly longer Kings Cross route.

[@bobstacey9311]

Cheap and level along the Lea Valley, how many hours of my life have I wasted at Brimsdown or Enfield Lock levelcrossings? When the Stanstead express was announced it was noted that Brimsdown level crossing would only be open for traffic for 15 mins an hour during peak time. I changed jobs so that I could avoid that nightmare scenario!

[@iankemp1131]

@@bobstacey9311 Interesting point, I hadn't realised that there are no bridges across the line between the A1055 and A110 until now. Must be a nightmare! Up my way the most annoying LC is at Roydon, not helped by the ECR's peculiar layout with staggered platforms "wrong way round" - with the crossing in front of the platform on both sides. So for stopping trains the gates have to be closed before the train arrives (in case of overrun), while it is stopped and after it departs, so 2-3 times as long as with the alternative arrangement where the crossing is behind the train and the gates can open as soon as it arrives. Long closures result even though there are 4 trains per hour less than at Brimsdown/EL (Hertford services).

[@Krzyszczynski]

And anyway, the line when first built wasn't primarily intended to serve those towns or villages - it was for long-distance transport and travel. The notion of using it to make short journeys between neighbouring communities, or for commuting to work, hadn't really developed at that time.

[@princecharon]

'Angel Road' sounds like it belongs in the title of a murder mystery, possibly in the classic film noir style. Adding 'Fallen Angel' helps with that, suggesting a series.

[@AnnabelSmyth]

Yes, of course they won't get the passenger numbers if they don't run the trains! That's how they justified shutting most of the branch lines - and, it has to be said, bus routes. Run the service at inconvenient times when people don't want to travel, so there are few passengers, so you can close the service as it's obviously not wanted....

[@iankemp1131]

However you won't get passengers if there is nowhere for them to go to or from. That was the basic problem with Angel Road - no houses nearby. So the only passengers were to and from the factories, for which its peak hours only service was quite useful. Even so, only a handful used it.

[@PlanetoftheDeaf]

A right dump of a station and area, and a bit creepy. I visited this station on its final day, I knew I'd regret it if I didn't 😁

[@sbv-zs7wz]

Nice clip of a FLIRT passing through, and I made the mistake once of going via Angel Road to walk to the IKEA nearby, yep truly depressing, and working out how to cross the A406 was 'fun'

[@lolzlolz69]

Think they missed a bit of a trick with the 3rd line to Meridian Water. Instead of making it a dead end platform they should have put in a ladder junction (like at the Lea Bridge end) to access the up and down thereby creating a fully functional relief line that aids traffic and helps during disruption.