Angry Photographer: Part II MUST OWN NIKKOR LENS, ...compare & contrast 80-200 2.8 & others

Angry Photographer: Part II MUST OWN NIKKOR LENS, ...compare & contrast 80-200 2.8 & others

[@brettb5257]

Big Ken, I am planning to grab one of these from Japan -- it's 2021. I had an 80-200 2.8 ... it was lovely. Took some amazing photos. It was heavy as balls. Sold it for the same price I bought it for in the same condition and the new owner was pleased - he may have gotten a better deal than I considering the condition and inflation. Anywhooo. Thanks for these videos. I have watched your evolution over the past 4-6 or 7 years, and -- while I do miss some of the salty videos ... well, I miss the salty videos. I like hearing people being called assholes for buying the newest things. Thanks for taking the time to talk about oddball stuff that matters.

[@patrickpnatividad]

I just got mine today! Mint condition, complete with carrying case for $447. This was indeed a unicorn. The seller almost changed his mind in selling it. I also have the 105 DC, and so I'll just be selling my 70-200 f2.8 VR1. Couldn't be happier :-)

[@russelljackman1413]

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! Who needs to do crunches? I get a plenty-good stomach workout, just laughing at your GREAT videos! (Plus, I learn a lot--BONUS!!!) Thanks a million, Ken!

[@bernardmelus54]

Hey the bad DXO mark rating just makes the lens cheaper for us ;)

[@mikardo8864]

Hi Ken! Do I want the 80-200 two ring or older Single ring style? U.K price is about £200 more for the 2 ring newer version. Thanks so much for all your advice

[@freddiecarpio1445]

Once again, many thanks for all your lens recommendation. Certainly saved me time and money. So far , I'm 3 for 3. Tamron 45mm 1.8, nikon 85mm 1.8, and now nikon 180mm 2.8.

[@n1k1george]

Thanks for setting the record straight regarding DXO Mark. My reaction to many of their rankings and results was; Say what??? They just did not correlate with my empirical experiences of shooting certain Nikon optics over 3-1/2 decades. I've owned many Nikon dogs but I've also owned clear winners and the DXO mark results just did not reflect my real-life experiences.

[@dannyr6485]

Theoria, D version vs AF-S version is there a difference in picture quality? Does anyone have both? A lot more glass in the AF-S version so there must be a difference in the optical performance.

[@WaniMedia]

I just got one today for about 290 bucks 180mm f2.8, i already have a push pull 80-200 and 300mm f4 AF pre D

[@johnarmstrong5727]

I bought the older version as on this video , It is excellent and the images are even better , Thanks for another great review.

[@joeblow9931]

I just bought the old ai-s manual focus version of this,....any difference ken?

[@TheMainMan903]

I got lucky and bought one a few days ago based on your review and I'm super happy with it.

[@bigissac7884]

Hi so would you recommend the 80-200mm f2.8 push pull version.

[@kathodosdotcom]

HEY EVERYBODY!!!! ~*~*~*~Check out this video please! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2LFgYFpa9maraM Tokina 100mm f/2.8 Macro Review by DARREN MILES He gives me a shout out at the beginning about getting the Tokina 100mm 2.8 macro He gives the Tokina a 10/10 for value. Neat video with test shots and examples check out what he says at 9:20 He takes some awesome shots and seems to love his new Tokina 100mm macro ~*~*~*~*

[@whatschrisupto4138]

Theoria Apophasis Plus he gives mad props to the AP. Very nice review but he was not quite as animated as I have become accustomed to.

[@kathodosdotcom]

hmmmm

[@antonc108]

Theoria Apophasis How about longer lenses for sports and birds and wildlife? I bought a 300mm f/2.8 the AFI one, built like a tank yet significantly cheaper for the same optical performance, slightly slower autofocus speed. People avoid AFI due to Nikon running out of motor repair parts. I took a chance coz I think unless you are using it for thousands of shots continuously week after week, ie a fashion runway cum sports pro alternating seasons, it is going to last.Your thoughts please?

[@kathodosdotcom]

unless you wanna blow a TON, a great used 500mm what your budget?

[@kathodosdotcom]

hehehehehe the Photoshop Lens.

[@fxvsdx35]

Thanks Ken for another great video !!! I noticed that one of the screws in the mount of the D lens is painted black. Some say that Nikon does that when they refurbish a lens. (Nikon sent my D750 back after the recall repair with a black dot inside the tripod mount). What is your take. Thanks

[@kathodosdotcom]

Jay John thats true, the "black dot" nikon mark

[@aridgerat]

I need a tripod mount for a Nikkor 80-200, 2.8 D (push-pull). Any suggestions? HELP!

[@Charlie_wildlife_nature]

I want a good macro lens for Fuji that does 1:1 any good old nikkor lens recommendations?

[@stevesmith2928]

Morning Fella - 180mm or 80-200mm, just starting to build my collection up on your recommendations and don’t want to double up on lenses. Cheerz me dearz!

[@jbsmith1739]

will you use the 70-200mm nikon 2.8 with a teleconverter and if you do which teleconverter will still produce the furthest range but also the sharpest image quality

[@cheny8923]

What are your thoughts on the 80-200 AF-S version?? compared to the twp ring D

[@matthewandrade4242]

Nikkor 180mm 2.8 D or 80-200mm 2.8 ED-2 on a D500 for portraits/ macro shots???? Which HELP

[@garys.674]

I got a pristine 60mmD lenes. It seems like it's have trouble focusing close up. Any thoughts sir?

[@alexferr1204]

I just bought this lens used and originally I was going to sell it for more so I can buy the 300 f4 Nikon.... the second I held it in my hand and saw how the quality shots + your vid recommendation, I realized I'm not selling it anymore lol. I decided to move to primes only.

[@philemonnelson520]

I have a Nikon D70 , I'm a beginner and I love , Street Photography, Crowded Street, People watching, Street food vendors, graffiti. etc what lens should I purchase ,the only lens that I have is a Nikon 35 -70 AF Nikkor 1:3.3 - 4.5 please help. Thanks

[@ceedelosreyes6357]

Good informative video, Do you include the push/pull version for same optical quality?

[@srangalic7911]

Hey Ken! How would you compare IQ of this lens @f2.8 compared to 60mm micro. I got that micro after your recommendation and I'm really satisfied. I know I'm risking you calling me names :) but if I'm buying 2.8 lens I want to be able to use it wide open. If it's going to be fuzzy and I must use it at f4 I'll skip it. My intention is to use it for indoor events (like concerts...) and maybe sport if AF can keep up. I'm shooting with D7100 so can't use super high ISO to keep quality at acceptable level, every bit of light here counts. What are your comments or recommendations? Thx!

[@kathodosdotcom]

the 180mm 2.8 is not soft wide open

[@akboss4341]

hey Ken how is Nikon AF 80-200 f2.8 ED ( push pull zoom) version compared to AF 80-200 f2.8D

[@kathodosdotcom]

sok, but it sucks dust, but its a great cheap lens

[@goncaloseruca4752]

Hey Ken, started photography this year after the isolation period in May with an old D800 and love it. I already bought some of your recommend lenses and I just can tell wonders about them. Now, I am looking to buy an 80-200mm two-ring version cause they are awesome for everything. Meanwhile, I just found one 135mm f2.8 Ai lenses super cheap. Is it worth to buy even with the 80-200? I already have a 24mm f2.8D, 50mm f1.8D, 35-70mm f2.8D and 70-300mm ED F5.6.

[@goncaloseruca4752]

@@ironmantooltime I dont haver de 180 prime but I did buy The 80-200 and its fucking awesome.

[@rschellie]

I bought the 80-200mm F/2.8 D lens based on your recommendation and it is built like a tank and all that but I wish you would have mentioned how terrible the chromatic aberration is with this lens. I shoot mostly owls in low light and this lens is almost unusable because the chromatic aberration and fringing is so bad I have problems of correcting it in post.

[@rschellie]

@@ironmantooltime I am using the lens on a Nikon D7200 and the lens is very clean including internally as well. This lens was purchased from a Japanese camera store on ebay and show almost no signs of use.

[@pablo-zn1mg]

Hey man , I think I made a mistake. I bought on ebay from japan a nikon af 80-200 f2.8 ed D. I thought it was the regular version but it's the push-pull one. is it really that much worse? though it was pretty cheap for this focal length zoom lens. they're shipping it this week so it'll be a while before I get it.

[@samratsarkar123]

Hello Ken, I’m an admired follower of your videos and just love them to watch as they are truly loaded with useful information. Keep the good work going!!! High Five!!! I’ve finalized my purchase of Nikon D7200 and your highly recommended Nikon AF 80-200mm f/2.8 d ed if (New version) lens by this weekend. I understand that unlike the “G” type lenses which offer full time Manual override option, in 80-200 one have to change the focus mode ring to “M” to focus manually. Now my question is, do one have to change the ring on the lens to “M” and as well as change the mode to “M” on the camera body for manual focus or changing it only on the lens will serve the purpose? Thank You!!!

[@kathodosdotcom]

Samrat Sarkar YES YES !!! WARNING!!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER use that lens with the camera in AF mode and the lens is M mode!!!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER .............its like gassing your car with your foot on the break thats a screw drive lens.

[@samratsarkar123]

Thanks for your reply!!! I very much appreciate it!!! You are my camera saver!!! :-) Can you please guide us with some more useful info / precautions on how to use a "D" lens and which are the aspects to be must followed while using a 'D" lens!!! Thanks again!!!

[@21Gannu]

What is your opinion on nikon 80-200mm afs

[@pawelhener5338]

Hi Ken, just gambled and bought a Nikkor AF 80-200 1:2.8 Push-Pull on eBay cheap (below $200). The lens was described as "broken" since one of the previous owners described issues with the AF and had Nikon look over it already. The previous owner however claims that he had not experienced any issues with the AF so far. Well today the lens arrived. The glass is in very good condition, the buttons and functions are working well (maybe a bit firmer than I am used to). As I switched it into the AF mode the lens was able to focus as well without issues. However, I believe that it got stuck when I focused for Infinity and then tried to bring it back into the focal range. After switching it to Manual mode and back into AF-mode however it worked again. Right now it seems to work fine. Did you experience anything like this before - any suggestions or precautions I should take care of? Thanks!

[@Auxinelectro]

i got this lens after seeing your awesome video.... thing is incredible.. gives the same pop and light as 70-200 f2.8... cant believe i paid full new price for that..

[@Whiskey_Hunter]

Question for you...how does the 80-200 perform on the D810? I have seen spotty reviews something about back focus and errors...any guidance. Love your videos. I have been acquiring some of your SSS lens over the past few months. Later

[@kathodosdotcom]

+S Chat works fine on the 810 nikon warns people the 80 200 is NOT FOR close work, meaning roughly 30 feet hence the 'issue'

[@Whiskey_Hunter]

Thanks for the quick reply.

[@wilfredodeclaro]

Just bought nikon 135 2.8 ais, 105 f2.5 ais, 200 f4 ais 70-210 f4 af......also Pentax Super takumar 135 3.5.......Tokina 100 2.8 macro... awesome lenses though...thanks...

[@Art_N_Soulle]

Someone help! i know im late to the party but i just bought the newest one and I see it says its not for Af-s (I have a d3500) should i return it??

[@greggfairfield2570]

No. Any AF-S lens will focus on the d3500. Keep it and enjoy.

[@stlmills911]

I can get my hands on an 80-200 push pull version but I'm concerned because it's not the twist zoom. Is there anything I should worry about if I got the push pull instead? I don't know what the differences are between the two like if the focusing is slower on anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Tyler it sucks dust, adn a bit inferior optically.

[@stlmills911]

+Theoria Apophasis thank you. I'll wait and save up for the newer version

[@palantbon]

Great video, I was thinking of buying this lens 80-200 2.8 on my d 7100 . How does this lens work with the d7100? I don't want to buy a full frame I like my D7100 even anyone said a crops are not the good with full frame lens. Thank you Paul

[@kathodosdotcom]

of course it works fine on the D7100 , just cropped

[@GoGrJr]

Hey Ken, have you or would you ever put one of those on your Fuji Bodies? I really don't worry manual focussing. Can't afford the 50-140mm right now. Nikkor 80 200 2,8 ED could be a cheap (longer) alternative. thx a lot christopher

[@kathodosdotcom]

i have done that yes, works fine :)

[@EODM1]

@@kathodosdotcom I'm using the 300mm f4.5 ais on my X-H1 it's the dogs bollocks 🤩

[@QuanNguyen-vi1fi]

Sir, thank you for making these incredible videos. I took your advice and purchased 180mm 2.8 ED AIS, 105 2.5 and could not be happier. In addition, I am looking for the tele zoom lens. What do you think of the used tamron 70-200 and used nikon 80-200. Thank you

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Quan Nguyen happy as a worm in a pile of poo? :P hahhahahhha

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Quan Nguyen which 70 200 tamron???? there are several diff ones.

[@MrVikaswadhawan]

Dear Angry ! Having problems. Bought a used 80-200 one. Though without a scratch. Does not focus at infinity at 200mm. Not even manually. Sometimes Infiniti focus acquired if using till 120 mm or so..there is a slight dull thud sound when you rotate the Lens 180degree in hand. But does not sound like broken part. Please suggest.

[@kathodosdotcom]

thats cause youre TOO CLOSE......all those lenses have that "issue"

[@MrVikaswadhawan]

@@kathodosdotcom My mistake in framing the question. It's 120meters not mm. Typo error.

[@MrVikaswadhawan]

@@kathodosdotcom infact it refuses to focus on infinity beyond 120mm 135mm focal length if the distance is beyond 100meters..completely blurred image. Not AF fine issue very obvious. The following has been suggested in Nikon forums. Get the Focus limiter switch checked. Could be a broken part inside.or the lens has been serviced in past and one of the glass has been incorrectly placed or flipped..god knows or you know better. Point is to keep the lens and get it serviced or sell it.

[@kinng]

lmao! the cookies!

[@jc9240]

I bought one today via Ebay from Japan in Excellent Condition for $265 S&H Included....I will get back on its performance....Thnx Kenny!!!

[@boahandarrowsproductions4326]

So, how's the lens working out for you?

[@nortnert]

I shoot with a D750. I own the 14-24mm 2.8 and the 50 1.4 and I'm looking to get on the longer end of the spectrum for portraits and what not. I'm pretty sold on the 180mm 2.8 but im being told to entertain the 85mm. What do you recommend? Looking to spend no more than $600

[@kathodosdotcom]

DOF is never to be confused with subject ISOLATION (capturing the entire person within the DOF)…..as necessitated for example, Vogue, fashion photography in which case , for isolation, that shallow DOF is both Unwanted and Invalid and peeps use 70 200 2.8, 200mm 2.8 / F2 etc etc even my 300mm 2.8 depends on what YOU NEED / WANT>

[@nortnert]

duly noted! I shoot outdoor natural light mostly. honestly I don't really know what I need as i've never had a lens longer than 50mm. i'm looking to be able to take some killer portraits/headshots, not so much fashion

[@kathodosdotcom]

even 400mm is a valid portrait lens, depends on what kinda composition you're trying to get :) 85mm to 135mm general use.

[@bogdanilisie3878]

I got the 180mm 2.8 due to your recommendation and I'm happier than a pig in shit. The awesomeness of this lens cannot be emphasized enough.

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Bogdan Ilisie Haaaaa, you damn well better be happy i got 6 of em (crazy, i know) Haaa! :)

[@michaelreed649]

We need an updated nikon video. I know nit much is new but we still would Love a new "best of" video fir Nikon mount cameras.

[@AlexSakes]

Is the push pull model not as good as the other one?? a difference in quality?

[@tenseigan3087]

SAME IMAGE QUALITY, JUST THE AF SPEED...

[@t04011984]

What about the other version 80-200, is it just as sharp? It's the AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1:2.8 D

[@kathodosdotcom]

push pull 80 200 2.8...$350 + ....greaet lens, sloooow.

[@SwAmPDOC73]

Can you do a video on the original Nikon 80-200 f2.8 ais that came out in the 70-80s? The one that was super limited numbers amd is hard to find. It’s a push pull . I can hardly find info on it anywhere!

[@SwAmPDOC73]

@theoriaapophasis Can you do a video on the original Nikon 80-200 f2.8 ais that came out in the 70-80s? The one that was super limited numbers amd is hard to find. It’s a push pull . I can hardly find info on it anywhere!

[@willemshattuck1403]

hey ken, i hav the d7100 what lens should i get for the money i have the 70-200 tamron non vc and im not happy with it its not sharp when i focus on things far away. so should i go with the 80-200 af push pull or the 80-200 ed af?

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Willem Shattuck true thats a junky lens. 70 300 VR G Nikkor (ONLY the VR G version). whats the budget? what use?

[@willemshattuck1403]

$600 for portrait wildlife and sports and low light like shooting a play or a concert

[@kathodosdotcom]

80 200 isnt fast enough at AF for about HALF of very fast sports work, but 100% perfect for everything else and that fits the budget perfectly

[@willemshattuck1403]

ok thank you

[@1986chardy]

Theoria Apophasis I also have a d7100. I do wedding photography. Would you recommend the Nikkor 180mm 2.8 ed for this? If not what would you recommend?

[@mark19615]

your thoughts on the 28-70 f2.8 d series, would be much appreciated

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Mark Reynolds it sucks, 2 plastic elements :(

[@EODM1]

I use all kens recommended nikon lenses on my Fuji X-H1, will be picking this one up tomorrow in mint condition for £280. I just love manual focus 😌

[@kathodosdotcom]

Good choice!

[@dogblessamerica]

The shortbread was a gift after you talked up a crappy old lens he was about to sell on eBay, wasn't it? ;)

[@manjinderpb03]

Dxomark lol Nikon D3300 = Canon EOS 1Dx = 82 (score) :D

[@photoveq]

how about the 180 mm f2.8 ais?

[@bigdaddybry]

He has recommended that one as well

[@zackwatkin7022]

I recently sold my 80-200mm af-d. While it was amazing it was too heavy to take hiking. This lens it terms of weight is way lighter and seems to be in the same class as the 80-200. I know the 180mm af-d lens isnt gonna be the fastest in terms of AF speed but is it accurate. I read on a few websites that the af accuracy is so-so. I was skeptical of their ratings of this lens so im gonna ask the person who actually knows their lenses. Can't wait to take this thing on a trek and use the living hell out of it. Thank you so much for your videos.

[@mike_svoeuy116]

Great vid as usual. Off topic but what are your thoughts on the 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 G VR? How is it optically? Thanks in advance!

[@kathodosdotcom]

Michael Svoeuy i harp on that lens all the time, got 3 of em. its nikons sharpest midrange zoom. theyre cheap as hell too used, $220+ minty used.

[@mike_svoeuy116]

Awesome! You made my decision much easier. Been hesitant on pulling the trigger for one but now it's a no brainer. Thanks again brother!!!

[@kathodosdotcom]

someoen showed me a new one they bought yesterday for $300, great price. The image output is incredible.

[@mike_svoeuy116]

Man I can't wait to get my hands on one. Your recommendations haven't steered me wrong so far. LOL

[@kathodosdotcom]

hell, i dunno why i have 3, but i got 2 DAMN CHEAP you can find great copies of them for $300+ on ebay.

[@619RobdoG]

I love this lens so much that I would pay $1800 for a revamped model with af-s

[@MrVikaswadhawan]

Hi Angry ! 80-200 does not focus at infinity. Bought a used one. Does not focus even manually. Stops short of focussing. No problems if shots are within 40-50 meters. Request your advice here...

[@kathodosdotcom]

thats a common issue with that lens :)

[@MrVikaswadhawan]

@@kathodosdotcom is it solvable at Nikon service centre?

[@usk13f]

Just bought it off of ebay on your recommendation! Let's see how it goes.

[@kathodosdotcom]

+usk13f its an epic lens without equal, if you dont love it, then you need to see a shrink heheehh ;) winks.

[@usk13f]

I've had the 135mm 2.8 AIs for a couple years now and every time I've used it, the sharpness (even wide open) blows me away. Upgraded to full frame with a D810 and really wanted the longer focal length and came across a very nicely priced 180mm on ebay keeping your consideration in mind. There's something about these old lenses that just isn't there in the grossly overpriced "newer" yet softer versions. Thanks for reminding me about these beautiful lenses I had stupidly forgotten!

[@dmt99vn]

is the Nikon 180mm ais version worth 170$ to buy ? I have never seen you mention the 180mm MF version.

[@kathodosdotcom]

+David Duong thats a bit high, yes, its a great lens

[@detoxrum]

is it true that when you tip the 80-200 end for end there sounds like something loose inside?

[@kathodosdotcom]

AF element

[@Jack14432]

Hi Ken, there are a lot of verities on eBay! Are they all the same ?

[@williamgardner2739]

Theoria the present is made in Scotland, they are called shortbread fingers a type of biscuit. they are very nice I hope you enjoy them. All the best from Scotland.

[@5sidedfistagon]

Hey Ken Im busying looking through Ebay now for the 80 - 200 F2.8. What would you reckon is a good price in $$$ I was wondering if i am going to pay import duties, Im in South Africa! Cheers man!

[@kathodosdotcom]

Alexcpt Photography which one? there are MANY variations in the 80 200 2.8 the latest one, the D, is $600+ used great shape the old push pull 80 200 2.8 is about $350

[@5sidedfistagon]

Hey Ken I was interested in the push pull It would be great on my dx and something nice for my dad's d700? Your thoughts sir?!

[@kathodosdotcom]

it would be, and its CHEAP too,...make sure you buy a good copy from a good seller :)

[@MMB.__]

the cookies 😂😂😂😂 I was laughing alone like an idiot while watching this.

[@joeldavila6825]

What u think about the Nikon 70-200 F4 VR? Thanks for your videos, it has been helpful every time im looking to buy a len for my D750. .

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Joel Davila one of the most overpriced (nearly) nikkor lens, .... you can get a Tamron 70 200 2.8 VC and be happier for cheaper

[@joeldavila6825]

Thanks for the info.

[@spokolokofly]

Hey Ken. What do you think about 80-200 2.8 af-s with scratched front element (glass not coating) for 250$?

[@kathodosdotcom]

hooooooow scratched?

[@spokolokofly]

didn't see yet. from the photos I think few little scratches in the middle.

[@spokolokofly]

this one: 3.allegroimg.com/original/03d0e1/db588f72479e83ccbd024578a593 9.allegroimg.com/original/03c3cd/38e5db744b3099c71d43eb1b1369

[@raviishankarrptekumalla]

Ken, how about the 80 200 2.8 d push pull zoom for $ 250?

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Ravi Shankar yes, for $250 thats fine, just make sure it works right.

[@Super1Po]

Angry, the Nikkor 80-200mm push/pull, I can't find a review on this lens from you. but where do you rate the push/pull 80-200mm?

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Cedric McGee its a great lens, especially for the $350 you can get one for

[@Super1Po]

+Theoria Apophasis ..thank you, making that order now

[@vincentrocco8940]

Cedric McGee this is a great lens... Sharp at all apertures.... Sharp! Great micro contrast

[@MORTRAX]

how does the 70-200mm f2.8 vr2 compare to this?

[@kathodosdotcom]

Mr.Vern apples and oranges comparison, this is an 8 element prime. :) This prime lens is the SUPREME PINNACLE as it is for what it is.

[@jarhead262]

Just scored a d7000 on ebay for $365.00 with 20k shutter count. Stoked cant wait. Thanks for your great videos. Now get some sleep will you.

[@kathodosdotcom]

jarhead262 Sweeeeet !!!! will sleep later tonight :)

[@VoidShepherd]

Just picked up one of these for a steal :D

[@Spaeckli]

I love all the mirrorless Cameras everyone thinks they need one, and I'm here with my D7200, great sensor and a shitton of amazing lenses for 1'000.- 35mm 1.8G, 50mm 1.8D, 80-200 ED

[@5sidedfistagon]

picked up the 80 - 200 ai f4.5, any good? 79$ mint

[@JorgeOrtizIII]

I just picked one up for 90. Hoping to get some great shots!

[@yukido42]

is it good ?

[@5sidedfistagon]

+yukido asuna getting it this weekend so let's see.

[@yukido42]

+Alexcpt Photography ok, saw a very beat up use one, thinking of getting it.

[@dr.sandipmehta973]

which version is better?

[@kathodosdotcom]

both same

[@MichaelEsarey]

My candle burns at both ends; It will not last the night; But, ah, my foes, And, oh, my friends, It gives a lovely light.

[@jamesr6497]

Difficult for me to justify this lens for myself since I don't shoot weddings. I have the 70-300mm G VR. The only D series lens I like is the 60mm 2.8 D macro. I really hate the screwdriver focus thing to be honest,...like holding a dental drill. It works fine and all but I just am not fond of it. I would not want to attach this lens to a light camera body like a dx or even the D750, which would be like putting a battleship canon on a canoe. This lens would balance on a D3, D4 or a D700 with battery grip. Some lenses are not compatible to certain bodies due to issues of balance. This is a subject that almost all reviewers have not addressed while recommending a lens on its own. If you spend all your time with your camera mounted to a tripod, then maybe no big deal. Always a good idea to try a lens on your body before throwing down your cash.

[@artemtakingpictures]

aweeeesome lens, i have just bought it in 2024, and I enjoy it so much!~

[@nuke63]

I think military photographers use these in war zones. If it will work there it should be able to survive about anything here at home.

[@kathodosdotcom]

Mike Morgan well, i just take care of mine and make sure theyre insured, one good drop and its KAPUT to be sure on hard surface.

[@Admeralsarms]

is the one with the silent wave motor the same quality?

[@kathodosdotcom]

these are screw drive

[@nemac23]

Wondering the same thing.

[@Admeralsarms]

if it has a slight rattle, should i still buy it?

[@willemshattuck1403]

hey ken witch lens would you say is better over all the 80-200 f2.8 or the 70-200 f2.8g ed-if af-s vr? thanks!!

[@kathodosdotcom]

WHICH 70 200 2.8???????????? the nikon versions of that lens stink

[@willemshattuck1403]

70-200mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR www.amazon.com/Nikon-70-200mm-Nikkor-Digital-Cameras/dp/B00009MDBQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1469483399&sr=8-7&keywords=70-200mm+f2.8

[@dannyr6485]

Hi there is there any image quality difference between the nikon 80-200 2.8D vs the nikon 80-200 2.8 AF-S? I didn't know they made a AF-S version of this lens and it seems about $100 more than the D version. Is it worth the extra money? Thanks

[@Cal94]

Danny Rinaldi i have never shot the af-s. never hear much about it. nikon swept it under the rug pretty quickly after the 70-200 2.8 vr I came out. i do know that its a different optical formula. all the AF/AF-D 80-200 2.8s have 16 elements. the AF-S has 22 or 23 elements i think. so the output is *probably* not the same. but again, i own the af-d one touch, no experience with the af-s. so whether it is any better or worse, i've no idea.

[@Nittinitt21434353]

@@Cal94 how is your experience with this 80-200 one ring lens ?

[@Cal94]

​@@Nittinitt21434353 i've found it to be the epitome of cheap and decent. i've only ever paired it with a D700 and a D750, on full frame, and i've only ever had a 70-300 4.5-5.6 VR to compare it against, in this zoom range. but as a hobbyist, i've mostly shot it wide open, and it's always been good enough for everything i've ever wanted to do with it. The zoom and focus on mine is smooth, though the force needed to zoom is not exactly consistent throughout. (actually, messing around with it right now, AF when pointing upwards is slow when fighting gravity, in a way that it wasn't when i first got it, so i suspect mine might be due for a lil servicing). AF is not great, by modern standards. AF speed is not terrible, on my D750, but it's considerably slower than any SWM lens. AF accuracy is adequate, but even in good lighting, it's not uncommon for focus to miss by narrow margins. there is no instant MF override, it's either AF or MF, which is likely the biggest difference between a one-touch lens and a 2 ring lens, i can't imagine a 1-ring lens having instant MF override. if ur subjects can sit still, i've found a 70-300 4.5-5.6 VR to be about as versatile a lens, with its excellent VR, and its colours might be a touch more vibrant, just from the newer coatings it has, on top of being cheaper i think, nowadays. Where the one-touch 80-200 2.8 excells in my books, is ergonomics. If you popped a split prism focusing screen into your DSLR, and left this lens on manual focus, it feels like a proper manual focus lens. the degree of instant, precise, instictive control, is a tactile experience that modern camera systems with focus-by-wire lenses and electronic viewfinders simply can't offer any more. Unfortunately, when i got this lens, i had friends, and the drive to want to hang out with said friends. As time's flown by, I spent more time biking, kayaking, and hiking, and my friends were always just more sedentary people. and so where i used to shoot people a lot, now i shoot more scenery, or wildlife. and this lens really aint suited to that kinda work. there's hardly any teleconverters for AF-D lenses, the AF is hardly better than a modern superzoom bridge camera, and though it's not bulky for what it is, it could be considered rather dense. it's not the kinda weight I enjoy stuffing into bike saddle bags, or stuffing in a kayak. it's cheap enough that if i took a spill, or if my chinesium saddle bags were to rip, or if i were to have an accident on an outing, and the lens became a casualty, i'd not cry for its loss. it's no skin off my back if I were to spring for another. it's actually constructed such that i expect it'd survive a great deal more abuse than a great many more modern lenses, though it lacks weather sealing. back to the beginning, it's cheap and decent. and versatile. i'm just a hobbyist that messes around, and i'm not a pixel peeper, so i've never had any issues with its optical performance. If it gives me bokeh, it gives me happiness. I've debated sidegrading, for a 85 1.8, or a 135 f/2, or a 300 f/4. but the 80-200's always been good enough. once in a while, i crack it out for a family event or something, and take portraiits, and candids, and still lifes, just to scratch that itch, and i fall in love with the lens (and the hobby) all over again... but my gear don't make me any money, I just shoot for fun. i'd never suggest this lens for say, a wedding photographer, or anything fast paced. Sure, i expect someone could train and get good enough with it to be fast. I'm sure any 80 year old retired news photog grandpa could run it like they were born with it. but all it really is is a quality hunk of glass and metal. if you want quality, consistency, easily, then this lens is not really that. But good god... that comment's 5 years old... YT's a crazy time capsule of random stuff...

[@Helikopterpop]

Which website are you constantly referring to? About the donkey review

[@willemshattuck1403]

hey ken, would the auto focus on either of the lens work on a d3200? thanks.

[@kathodosdotcom]

Willem Shattuck theyre both screw-drive, so no, the D3200 doesnt have an internal drive motor :)

[@toddallen7326]

Uh Oh. I watched this video and searched ebay and found what I thought was this 180mm lens. Then, I noticed, while it looked almost the same, it did not have the "D". It's Nikkor AF 180mm ED f2.8 but no D at the end. Did I get a lemon?

[@kathodosdotcom]

todd Allen nooooo, sounds ok........do you have the link, email it to me at [e-mail]

[@kathodosdotcom]

email me man :)

[@flyhighsounds]

well it work with a D3300?

[@kathodosdotcom]

screw drive cannot AF on those cameras :)

[@flyhighsounds]

+Theoria Apophasis awww man... 😔

[@No_no83]

This lens is AWESOME!!!!

[@lonnieclemens8028]

The cookies look good too.

[@Stephen-ok1zo]

When you get time check out "Large Format Photography Forum" it's free to join.. Look at the images and the number of posts on each thread.. Film is making a comeback on a huge scale.. You can do things with a huge format you can't do with any digital format ,,, Fujinon lenses have a long history and a big following as well,, much of which has been lost in the shuffle

[@bluefilmsltd]

So it has manual aperture ring>

[@kathodosdotcom]

+Blue Calm Productions yuppers

[@zakback9010]

I tried to prove you wrong about the 80-200 quality compared to the VR II but I couldn't. However, the Autofocus in the VR II beats any reverse engineered autofocus from Tamron or Sigma, to prove my point anyone can try to focus in low light on fast actions and using live view or use continuous high in low light . Genuine autofocus in the same lens class is more accurate and faster when using Nikon or canon lenses. That is why the VR II is expensive. Even compared to the Canon equivalent L IS II f2.8 the Nikon is better in Image Quality (IQ) & sharpness, but the canon is a true 200 mm. I've seen some websites (photozone) that claim that the VR II lens is better than the 80-200 in IQ, but that isn't entirely true. I have the VR II, considering the Autofocus & VR they have a high value. I can improve sharpness and colour rendition in post but that's extra time and effort. Actually, I am not sure now which is a better lens. I wouldn't even consider the Tamron. Also the VR II is well protected from dust making it more durable due to having a sealed chamber. I expect such seal to be much better than the Tamron or Sigma. After extensively looking for the best photo from each lens I can make a judgement Tamron slight out of focus problem in low light www.flickr.com/photos/67091827@N07/14680045724/ , this is ok in well light www.flickr.com/photos/67091827@N07/18922815400/in/photostream/ Sigma www.flickr.com/photos/gmichel/8486671250/ absolute perfection in IQ for the 80-200 D3 www.flickr.com/photos/peppedamico/8910829154/ Limitation on fast action www.flickr.com/photos/54887840@N04/15048345857/

[@kathodosdotcom]

zak back well i said the VR II AF is superfast. However im not paid over $2000 for mere fast AF, which is all it has.

[@seamuswarren]

Hmm, shortbread.

[@NZD95]

There is one really negative thing about the 180 - the elements are positioned soo front heavy that it feels more like a 500mm than a 180mm

[@kathodosdotcom]

pretty accurate, but not that bad

[@zfoxfire]

no internal focus smoker? ;)

[@dxmz2338]

Hello How good is the push and pull 80-200 2.8? Is this a good one? www.ricardo.ch/accdb/viewItem.asp?IDI=781344072 Thank you

[@jonathanjansen4089]

Just start at 6:45

[@salvadorveta6298]

My 180mm f2.8 ED Nikkor arrived this morning and these are the shots I got from it: www.flickr.com/photos/147724476@N03/shares/dE92BK This lens is sharp even with a dirty window in front of it. The bokeh is sublime.

[@kathodosdotcom]

must be raining out? :)

[@MisterCharles]

JUST JUMPING ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!! JUST TALK ABOUT THE LENSE MAN!