Animal Collective - "Defeat (A Not Suite)"

[@DaJesuts]

Feel lucky to have them exist and continue to make music.

[@matt_saitam7787]

And same old style.

[@mikeexits]

@@matt_saitam7787 Nah, they always keep it fresh.

[@RustyB22]

Getting into them now. Holy crap what I was missing... I really am hoping they keep it going. I love them!

[@paullambert9192]

This song and the live performances of it has found it's way into the deepist part of my soul, thank you Animal collective

[@LoLaKoala]

This is such a Spirit style track

[@YohananJean-BaptisteLefebvre]

One of the greatest songs ever made ❤

[@Hard_passs]

Cried both times I saw this song live. I'm begging for the studio version to be 30 to 40 minutes long, yup

[@mikeexits]

My general guess is it'll kick off their new album, or at least be close to the start, perhaps we'll even get a longer album than a standard 40ish minute project, but my main guess is that it'll be closer to the beginning. When I first learned of Defeat I figured it'd be a standalone EP, but with how they've been talking about a new album that they've been sitting on, I feel like the 2nd half of the album will be almost a counterpoint or contrast to Defeat's side (if it ends up being structured like that). Can't wait to hear it and the rest of the new material either way, and I'm excited to hear the studio version of Mystical too, whenever that comes out. Man, an Animal Collective double LP would be great. Beach House did a great one recently with Once Twice Melody.

[@333ferret]

@@mikeexitssounds like it’s gonna be the first single and is just around 22 min. Avey also confirmed that all the live tracks will be on the album so looks like you get ur wish

[@fredman727]

Hey dude, how did you like the studio version?

[@franconavarro2256]

its there now!

[@sweatfootm]

Yup

[@kikakuli]

my attempt at transcribing the lyrics Lightning crashed and read your letter Looked through pinholes to streets unguarded The panic seeking solitude The serpents swimming in the fountain For the fear of thing decaying fast Still I awake with you, healthy roses Violent spring, innocent tunes Liars linger in our soil Douse the sheets, they'll turn to ash This whole thing will also pass Dangers laying with the lambs Trawl the signs we'll build the boats and wash away Just grab something, take hold The only thing to hold, yup Stay grounded like the spruce A little change Just grab something, take hold The only thing you know, yup Stay grounded like the spruce One day friend, we'll meet again And hopefully then the earth is quiet Well I'll lay down with you in bed and Loneliness is left for letters Voices singing "love is (???)" No one prays in bits of silence Watch as gems they're holding fall Time to catch the (???) was holding Broke that (???) Just grab something, take hold The only thing to hold, yup Stay grounded like the spruce A little change Just grab something, take hold The only thing you know, yup Stay grounded like the spruce There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" Who's following me? I see you What is in my pocket? There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" There was not a serpent in the water, the mirror, the "what have we become?" (The frosty creek?) (I wanna go home?) Well once was a good day A good way was sometimes paved right And handled with care, we were coming of age The anything-will-do's Twist them off and pass them round And where did it change? Coming of age Well we once got a free line Opporutnity radicals You're on top of your game When you're coming of age And brace for the underdogs That was you with the good dog And what was its name? Coming of age Just a frightened mother Looking for her daughter (Justice, justice wanders?) Looking for some shelter Well once on a good day I had a room and you knew it well Our games were all grace We were coming of age Then we were the good news Now I'm all out but how 'bout you? Where do we stand? Coming of age Just a frightened mother Looking for her daughter (Justice, justice wanders?) Looking for some shelter Isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no not now But isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no not now But isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no not now But isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no not now Just a frightened mother Looking for her daughter (Justice, justice wanders?) Looking for a shelter Isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no not now But isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no not now But isn't it now? Defeat. But isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no But isn't it now? Defeat. Oh no But isn't it now? Defeat. But isn't it now? Defeat. But isn't...

[@NvisibleTreeMan]

The only thing to hold you-up (y'up) probably

[@styrofoampony]

love them FOREVER!!! this song is beautiful

[@Red-cl6gs]

They nailed the title for this track, the second half of these longer versions destroy me

[@Retro_Naut]

Seeing this song performed live is such an amercing experience, I can’t wait for the studio version!

[@26willyvan]

I don’t think there will be one… rumors are there next album is going to be released using live record of unreleased songs from the last tour!!

[@sammymoran3194]

@@26willyvan woah whered u hear that???

[@pauldavis7318]

@@26willyvan That's not true at all. They have already recorded all of these songs in a studio with the producer engineer from a lot of the Soulquarians stuff. We're just waiting for its release

[@JA-zp4qu]

@@pauldavis7318 Given how much the songs have evolved throughout the course of their touring, I would be surprised if any of the unreleased tracks that are played live are on the next album. But it is true that the album is "already finished"

[@pauldavis7318]

@@JA-zp4qu Why would you be surprised? I don't follow your logic. They said that they recorded the rest of their 2019 songs together in the same room, which will be the next album. Some of them may come in the form of an EP, I think, but it could also just be one really long album

[@justindrakecroft]

Hell yeah! That change at about 10min is awesome.

[@333ferret]

Avey's highest note ever at 18:46

[@bubmaterial]

hahah

[@mikeexits]

Although I found it amusing at first, the texture actually added to the song for me, especially with the string texture immediately after, and the "t" sound getting resampled (or at least a sample similar to it playing). I always love the way they use samples and textures in combination with synths and voice.

[@JubbyTyme]

This song continues to flesh out beautifully

[@ace101ification]

Loneliness is left for letters, damn

[@dabulls1g]

Both the loneliness of individual letters in the alphabet and the solitude of people who write letters to one another. Beautiful lyric.

[@sweatfootm]

Stay grounded like a spruce

[@cesarleguizamoporter7001]

I love this band so much. All the songs and albumd are super cool

[@seanpages__]

Maybe the most Animal Collective -Animal Collective has gotten.

[@BL-mf3jp]

One day friend, we’ll meet again

[@SenorGooch]

For anyone wondering. This single (21 mins) is getting its own 12” vinyl release. I’m pretty sure it’s limited release and drops soon in mid September. Purchased right when it was announced from their bandcamp

[@Mrtapp5357]

For me, the first rendition I heard (Big Sur 2019) has the best lyrics and vocal harmonies... found dragon statues in unkept fountains.

[@neustrasni]

yep

[@cooltigermusic]

Wow.

[@zindi1138]

my band!

[@boss1tweed]

if they don't include the "yups" in the studio version ill kms

[@pauldavis7318]

It's cringe

[@boss1tweed]

@@pauldavis7318 Exactly, it rocks.

[@mikeexits]

​@@boss1tweed I think the "cringe" some might feel is potentially just them feeling something unfamiliar (or perhaps even *too* familiar) and instantly dismissing it, almost looking down on themselves for it. At least, this is where I used to be mentally. Feeling can be a strange thing, and especially seem so from a modern cultural lens/standpoint, but I think it's healthy and even important to embrace it as it's so core to what makes us human. This is one of the reasons why I love Animal Collective so much; their music almost forces you to face these parts of yourself, and I always feel better at the end for it.

[@boss1tweed]

@@mikeexits agreed. their other comment is whining about how the song is too long now and used to be better etc etc. which is just a fussy, poisonous way to orient yourself towards a piece of art.

[@mikeexits]

@@boss1tweed I agree with you there, too. Also, side note, but I just looked at your channel a bit out of curiosity after seeing the note icon and it felt like a brief fever dream; never thought I'd see a spoken word + beats poetry mixtape, original music videos, what looks like a skit or meme cut (the hot twins one), and a Half-Life thumbnail on one page of videos, lmao. All stuff I love. Will check out later. c:

[@sweatfootm]

yup

[@charlieyoung7726]

masters

[@Bun_P_]

damn :')

[@wrenisprobablyb0red]

It kind of amuses me how Noah mostly just sits there for a lot of this song

[@mikeexits]

He's on drums and doing vocals; drummers tend not to move around much, at least at the concerts I've seen. They tend to kind of have their stool planted in one spot, and that's about it.

[@wrenisprobablyb0red]

@@mikeexits this song only has drums in part 2, which only lasts about 3 minutes iirc

[@wrenisprobablyb0red]

​@@mikeexitshe is doing a bit of vocals, especially in part 1's chorus, but both deak and avey seem to be doing most of the vocal work in this performance

[@mikeexits]

@@wrenisprobablyb0red Hey I mean to be fair, sometimes that's just how a song goes. Sometimes you don't need everything at once. Sometimes moderating yourself leads to some great work. I mean a guitar solo by definition has the guitarist doing the most interesting part of a song section, no? And I think you missed the part where Noah does those fast-tapping crescendos. I forget which part it is exactly, probably the 3rd part, but it's in there. Anyway, generally speaking, this is something I'd personally kind of expect from a more meditative song like Defeat, maybe aside from part 2 if anything. *Update/Edit:* Noah does vocals through the whole thing, and drums through pretty much the whole thing as well. I needed to watch it a second time, but yeah, no, Mr. Panda's definitely just as present in this song as the other guys.

[@wrenisprobablyb0red]

@@mikeexits I didn't say it was bad. I said it was amusing. It's their longest song and one of the main members basically just sits there... I wonder if he sort of gets lost in the moment, sometimes singing along, or if he sits there waiting for the moment the drums kick in...

[@thelevelbeyondhuman]

Where was this recorded?

[@bnuyguy123]

99 percent sure its the portland crystal ballroom

[@LIVEfromBIRMINGHAM]

Saturn Birmingham in Alabama!

[@bubmaterial]

hha the ()'s classic

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

They had to detract from it by adding a stupid parenthesis.

[@pauldavis7318]

Ugghhh....why did they drag defeat out to 20 minutes?? It draaaags. It was way better at Music Box when it was only 15 minutes. I hate when this band sits on songs too long before recording them; such songs almost always become compromised

[@dendyxyz]

It's so much better now, song is way too fast in music box version

[@pauldavis7318]

@@dendyxyz I could see if they went the average tempo between this and Music Box it would be good too, but this comes off as way too self-indulgent in certain parts and certain parts become dreadfully boring and lame. I love slowly unfurling music, like ambient for example, but this is too often just bad. It was a masterpiece

[@dendyxyz]

@@pauldavis7318 No way is it self indulgent Paul davis

[@pauldavis7318]

@@dendyxyz Maybe the mix and performance on the upcoming album of it will win me over on this newer, slower version. I sure hope so. I'm really hyped for the rest of the songs

[@Chonchoeagleclaw]

@@pauldavis7318 I really want to disagree but…