Why Disney’s best animator QUIT

[@tristan_840]

This is the kind of person that really cares about art, not just the money on it.

[@HasufelyArod]

Money be important, though. Money is not the root of all evil, but exacerbated love for it is

[@godswarrior2952]

@HasufelyArod money is a shared delusion

[@MiwaYamato-qb6ol]

Well I'd reckon she has plenty of money that a normal job can serve her well.

[@Eurocoo]

@@godswarrior2952 money is necessary for our economy, if you say otherwise you’re the delusional one

[@handlemoment]

​@@Eurocoooh you have no idea

[@dizzydial8081]

It's a crime that Disney abandoned hand drawn animation. Most of Disney's best classics are 2D animation.

[@jensenraylight8011]

at least the Japanese still making 2d animation and actually thriving, because it just make the character more expressive and flexible there are also a lot of crazy and Mindblowing 2d animation stuff like in Gundam Anime too bad that people didn't take them seriously as a Disney challenger & competitor

[@xs0528]

Ya. If I had a company, I’d wanna have both hand-draw and computer animation for my movies and TV shows.

[@dizzydial8081]

@@jensenraylight8011 I really miss the elastic properties of old cartoons. I think they called it moon physics or something. I thought it was very charmingm

[@G4m3r-pr099]

You could compare it to joining the popular group and leaving the homies who took you in first behind

[@BelBelle468]

Complain at audiences. I saw all final 2D movies from Disney while ppl obsessed over Harry Potter and said that 2D adventure movies were childish. DreamWorks stopped 2D for the SAME reason.

[@johnan3398]

Big respect to her for following her passions rather than sticking with high paying jobs.

[@aycayirmili3304]

She probably had enough money to never work for the rest of her life 😂

[@jcable0]

When you got money, you can do that

[@HOMELANDER334-z7k]

DIDNT ASK+I MAKE BETTER CONTENT🎉😂

[@Qt_pi3]

@@HOMELANDER334-z7kyou look like a 5 year old in your Pfp you sound like one to :)

[@didimakethis]

​@@HOMELANDER334-z7k you're content is Ass

[@erinyarbrough3697]

She realized it was no longer something that fulfilled her and made her happy so she moved on to something that did! Love this!

[@HarjitKaur-xn5cw]

Whats her name? Its insane how she switched to being a sculptor...damn

[@psychsike6700]

@@HarjitKaur-xn5cwher name is ellen woodbury! She has a website where she updates about upcoming art shows (some online) featuring her animal sculptures :)

[@hyperclipse]

@@HarjitKaur-xn5cw Ellen Woodbury. bro did you even watch the video

[@HarjitKaur-xn5cw]

@@hyperclipse i have AHDH

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

So she leaves and starts messing with real life CGI... Makes zero sense.

[@AceAlbatros]

Okay but that’s so damn cool, from one of the top Disney animators to stone sculpter. You can already tell she’s always had a great view on animating perspectives and that works so well into sculpting.

[@thisdeath]

hmmm. she's cool

[@DKdrop]

I imagine that she partially found her love of sculpture through 3d animation. Digital modeling seems like a sort of intermediary between hand-drawn animation and 3d art.

[@TheDienhart]

@@DKdropdo a quick KZbin search for blender rigs ect. It’s digital sculpting, she was inspired.

[@sassyhassy]

​@@DKdropRight, cos it's the time, intrigue and effort of hand drawn animation, and the visuals of 3d.

[@julialungan4722]

​@@DKdropthats what seems to have happened.

[@yamidelacroix6729]

Gotta respect the reasoning. She went from sculpting digitally to sculpting with another media. That's actually really interesting. Edit: Looking back on my original comment I think I used media since I was told in secondary school that you can use media in this way as Arts Media are seen as materials and tools used by an artist. Like carving media can be things like marble stone etc. I know people say medium as well, is medium just the preferred word? Actually sort of interesting to think about.

[@itz.yukiix]

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[@RandomAnimeEnjoyer1]

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[@Thouxanbangeo]

Exactly! That’s some Michelangelo shit!

[@gijogeorge3709]

She found it ig

[@devinbrooks276]

Nah its just undiagnosed,untreated ADD 😂

[@Arriex.]

I feel like it would be really nice if Disney did both 2D and 3D Animations

[@spinedotlazuli1120k]

There's an actual show that uses this method, actually It's not Disney tho Holy shit it's only been six days and the main comment already reached over a hundred replies

[@Danter5435]

@@spinedotlazuli1120k Do you mean Code Lyoko? Or is there another, more modern, show that does as well nowadays?

[@spinedotlazuli1120k]

@Danter5435 it's The Amazong World of Gumball actually. The animators of that show combined 3d, CGI and 2D and did so perfectly that they actually blend in.

[@Jimblemimble]

Smiling Friends also

[@rottingdreamland]

Regular Show and Demon Slayer too, I think

[@Coblins]

It would of been cool if Disney made a character who was 2d drawn in a cgi film as a finale movie for her to animate in

[@oerlex1846]

would have*

[@KnotSandy]

@@oerlex1846bro shut up

[@Resident_Insomniac_2295]

​@@oerlex1846 both are grammatically correct. One is just more standard.

[@Terble_Speling]

@@Resident_Insomniac_2295 That's just blatantly wrong. "Would of" is NEVER grammatically correct. It's simply a misunderstanding of the contraction "would've," which is pronounced similarly to "would of." You should never write or say "would of"; always use "would have" or "would've."

[@Resident_Insomniac_2295]

@@Terble_Speling say it out loud, can you tell the difference?

[@vikhdez9306]

And THAT is an artist, one who follows passion

[@hgilbert]

I am so super glad I discovered traditional classical drawing and painting from Life. It is ultra difficult but you will never get bored. You don't need super expensive computer / software / machines / gadgets. You are the true Creator. But you have to study, practice hard for a v v long time.

[@Pack_Watch]

No, a real artist makes LGBTQ style animations shut up!!

[@stickmanofrandomness]

Easy to follow passion when you have money

[@Splicer-lb5xb]

​@@stickmanofrandomness Easy to breath when you aren't in Chernobyl, what's your point?

[@hgilbert]

@@stickmanofrandomness nonsense! it is absolutely the other way round. If you have true passion, you will walk a mile bare foot or go hungry for days so you can do Art. That is passion. That is drive. Art is everything. And you will never be a fake, a phoney, a cheat or a sell-out. People that do not have that, think Art skills can be bought with cash.. God, they are so wrong. No amount of money - or waste of time on expensive courses / academies / ateliers - will ever make a person talented if they have no soul to begin with ie no passion. You got the internet? You can achieve just about anything. Including being an excellent draughtsman or ultra talented master painter one day. I tell people, they don't believe me. Seriously, their loss then. Talent is hard work and persistence, not innate.

[@BillRanter]

I respect her so much for this decision. She really went after what she loved, it's not always about the money.

[@HamSandwichBot]

Ham Sandwich

[@Kn1ghtborne]

You can't really perform artistically if you don't love it. It's more uncomfortable than working a job you don't like because you need to survive.

[@user-eo9fl9wb8s]

Something tells me her financial situation is just fine. I don’t think you can do stone sculpture as a profession and be broke

[@CuzCuzBoy69]

she couldnt be doing what she loved if she didnt have the money

[@BillRanter]

@@CuzCuzBoy69 Well you guys should understand something. She started with 2d animation which she loved, but when Disney stopped doing that and moved on to mostly 3D she left even though they had promoted her and should be receiving even more money than before. She left a huge monthly paycheck to pursue another thing she loved (sculpting) since she couldn't do 2D animations anymore. Yeah she has money but she got it by doing something she loved and when she could have started receiving even more money for something she didn't like, she left to do another thing she loves. I respect her decision very much, and after all she had done at Disney she very much deserves her peace of mind.

[@batfreeze56]

Disney needs to make hand-drawn features again. I love Tangled and Encanto as much as the next guy, but the level of quality in movies like Hunchback and Aladdin is unmatched to this day.

[@BelBelle468]

Imagining both movies as 2D would’ve been amazing. Maybe even Moana, tho I think Moana fits well for 3D since they got to do some fun fluid simulations which really worked for the film.

[@Lii_wry]

Would be cool, but if they are cutting back on 3D animations right now, how they suppose to do 2d lmao

[@cashbanooka5642]

Disney ended up selling and getting rid of everything about a month before Wish dropped. So there would be no chance. Especially with Disney starting to quit animation entirely at this rate. Or at least put far less time and money into it

[@Pixelusually]

Those movies weren't good movies because they're 3d, they're good movies because they're good movies

[@annien.1727]

Agreed.

[@Shailendra2819962]

I grew up with these films animated by her. I really enjoyed them and I am grateful for her work for us all to enjoy. Glad she’s still pursuing her other artistic endeavours.

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

She did what made her happy. She didnt demean her company, the changes or her job. Completely respectable decision.

[@Risky_roamer1]

Just like Hitler, she did what she wanted to do

[@QuesoCookies]

Why is it virtuous not to demean a company? Are they people with feelings that can be hurt?

[@kkirakiiraa]

@@QuesoCookies no, but they could get backlash

[@zankzbloodlust4192]

@QuesoCookies the message is that she didn't need to in order to make her point.

[@KyaPataKya]

@@QuesoCookiesIts virtuous because its easy to throw verbal jabs at a large corporation because you’ll probably never get a formal response in return….and even if you do get a response claiming that the statements you made were false, often times the public will still side with you because you’re the underdog….it is a win win situation really

[@FernBurri]

“dO yOu lIkE hER rEaSoNing??” She literally just became a sculptor because she liked it. She’s happy. That’s not my place to judge her if she’s happy doing what she’s doing

[@itsnotjayboi]

Agreed

[@N0GIY]

Well, now you've engaged with the video, the algorithm has shared it with me!

[@dizzy_ddigital]

Yeah,,,the video delivery was baiting us to believe it was Disney's problem "they did something this artist COULDN'T STAND!" She literally just wants to change art forms, nothing about Disney, right??? What weird correlation!

[@Smotezz]

​@dizzy_daag It's right but for a different reason, Disney changing 😂

[@NellielGrimmjow]

Right

[@chancewallace47]

Thats someone following her art and passion not chasing a paycheck. Bravo

[@dasmama9909]

eh? people with families need a paycheck. Stop antagonising people who need money

[@TheLynxBK]

@@dasmama9909 what about the comment was antagonizing? hes just pointing out she went from getting big paychecks with a big company to making less but doing something she loves. your just looking for something to annoy you lol find something better to do also even if she saved up enough to do something for free thats her achievement, dont think shes trying to be a dick to those who work to support their families

[@skiffy8121]

the phrasing. especially nowadays the struggle to make enough to even affort a housr is insane. its frankly besides the point whether or not her new job pays less or more than the last one.​@@TheLynxBK

[@TheLynxBK]

@@skiffy8121 yea i get it i am by no means rich, and i live from paycheck to paycheck. But still dont think he was deliberately being a dick to those who struggle. ya can praise someone for doing what makes them happy, i get your point tho but doubt his intentions were bad.

[@teloscyberman]

she probably got enough to not have to worry about any future paychecks

[@spencerdrums9776]

okay but why is there a loud discord ping about 2/3 through

[@soheezies]

and the tweet notification😭

[@halolighta]

A lot of these videos do that and I'm pretty sure the only reason whatsoever is because they're fishing hard for reactions

[@PurOwO]

Brainrot

[@lenerush1520]

I think It's to keep people's attention on the video.. ir rage bait. I don't like it either way

[@lethalmikado]

That’s what I’m saying. I legit closed the video and went to discord because I thought it was real

[@certifiedcheesecakeASDFGHJKL1]

It's always so cool to see artists explore new mediums that fascinate them after doing one thing for so many years

[@Bunnylover4ever3]

Trueee it's amazing ❤

[@lordoflightning7506]

Reminds me of Bob Dylan taking up welding

[@TylerMcL3more]

Yeah, I wanted to hear more about her stone sculpting

[@SmokinIt]

Disney are certified pfiles stop watching them to take a stand. That's a start.

[@blueslime5787]

That discord sound effect is evil

[@raycotron]

I thought just the same

[@any.user.allowed.]

Why?

[@InklingFan77Mettaton1936]

@@afox8050it Got Me Too. Thinking I Got A Message But No.

[@_marshP]

it's to make you comment about it, increasing user engagement for this short. As a result, this channel will appear in your feed more.

[@a.cup.ofwater]

It got me too 😭

[@RandomguyfromtheinternetN1]

I think that she isn’t in the right or in the wrong. She did what she wanted

[@HEHEHEHEHHEEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEH]

@@Gu3stish3r3u good bro

[@head-clanka69]

I don’t think she’s right or wrong, she did what she wanted

[@magicalgalaxylavender]

@@HEHEHEHEHHEEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHthey are just repeating it because the person they are responding to spammed the same message in the comments

[@HEHEHEHEHHEEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEH]

@@magicalgalaxylavender ohhhhh

[@RandomguyfromtheinternetN1]

@@magicalgalaxylavender okay the reason I repeated the same comment was that for some unexplained reason KZbin doesn’t show the comments that I write so I repeat them so that they can actually be shown. Although this time KZbin saved those comments. Also deleted all the other ones.

[@pantytera4138]

hand drawn was the best. it's what made disney iconic. the new tech they use just makes everything look like a replica of every other movie out there and it's sad

[@caveirainvocada9438]

From hand drawn 2D animation, to 3D, to stone sculpting? This woman is a beast!

[@sam_bibly]

2D animation and 3D animation are both just types of animation, and stone sculpting is pretty much 3D animation without the animated part, so it's not really as impressive as it seems. It's kind of like being a pizza cook learning to make calzones and then becoming a bread chef.

[@AdmiralHibi]

@@sam_bibly I didn't know 2D animator had the same capabilities as a 3D animator to be compared as equal. Neither that the precision using a chisel would come fair into that comparisson.

[@Dan-ch8kv]

She made enough with Disney to do what she wants.

[@graysonflows]

@@sam_bibly what in the holy fuck are you talking about dude

[@sam_bibly]

@@graysonflows art, baby...sit down and take notes

[@SuperSherlock12]

technically she's done with her main quests and doing a sidequests.

[@irjectjade]

woa

[@cooq4449]

her working for disney is a side quest then being a sculptor is her main quest😂

[@kmanthecoolest9304]

more like, she's fully leveled one skill so she's moving onto the next ones.

[@Dave-dh7rt]

Bro why does everyone say this who gives a fuck

[@kmanthecoolest9304]

@@Dave-dh7rt video game dweebs

[@andreakhaid]

I'd love to hear more about Ellen Woodbury. Why haven't I heard of her before??? Hell of a career she's lead.

[@andreakhaid]

Actually I think I have heard of her work on Zazu now that I think about it... I'd love to hear more behind the scenes stories on the Disney feature films of the 90's though.

[@wordzmyth]

Yes what a great career

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

Calm down feminist

[@The_1989_lover]

@@MGrey-qb5xzSo she didn’t have a great career?

[@armondtanz]

Doesnt fit the modern narrative, they wanna preach patriarchy and victimhood... Showing this fabulous female artist and her success would shatter their whole schtick!

[@adamsmoberly]

As someone who was a hand drawer and went to a commercial art college, I definitely feel the, “computer art lifestyle isn’t for me” feelings as well, though it was more coding than just it being a computer thing. I just don’t like coding and most my classes after the first couple semesters was fully coding and such (because of the rise of apps and such). I respect coders and I respect my teacher that I had who was teaching it, because he gave me better grades than I deserved.

[@vanessabalendra8995]

HAND DRAWN ANIMATIONS IS SO GOOD. THERE IS LITERALLY SO MUCH CREATIVE LIBERTY WITH IT, IT’S ACTUALLY INSANE. I WANT 2D ANIMATION TO COME BACK SO BAD

[@colcasey3853]

Watch anime. Basically only 2D, western animation is just shit nowadays

[@IM1deadMONEY]

I AGREE 💯 YOU'RE SPEAKING THE TRUTH, HAVE A NICE DAY

[@RoseMary-jc8yx]

Yeah hand drawn animation got more Charm. Nowday Disney 3D characters looks all the same, Big Head with Big Eyes.

[@OhWaker]

​@@colcasey3853Now that I think of it, it makes sense how anime became more mainstream over time as Disney and the animated channels (CN, Nick) moved away from 2D animation. The audience had to move somewhere, and anime is a natural progression.

[@FrankJonen]

It's also really hard. I've done both. 3D is so much easier and you can iterate like crazy. It's also mostly lifeless. Now I'm learning to do hand-drawn again (properly this time).

[@azel8rrp169]

Sometimes, it's not the job. It's the passion behind it that matters.

[@jonathansung8197]

Thank you Sun Tze

[@KyleHarmieson]

Not sometimes - always.

[@minestar2247]

And that passion is what makes the art, not the money behind it

[@jujupants2486]

Yea I have had jobs that didnt pay much, but I enjoyed what I did while also having jobs that paid more and the clocks were slow everyday. I think just about everyone has had this experience.

[@charles_teak]

Van Gogh be like:

[@srisudharsrinivasan8336]

Unpopular opinion: Tarzan's animation was the best of Disney. No one can recreate jungle scenes like that

[@nork66powers56]

Umm... the Jungle Book is better.

[@JungleAsian-f4n]

@@nork66powers56 🤓🤓🤓

[@thomaspatterson6806]

@@nork66powers56I gotta give it to Tarzan. Was much more fluent with some of the fast paced scenes honestly

[@dillonwalshpvd]

You know how good and unique Talan’s movement is? I was playing Kingdom Hearts the other night, and just the frames they used for the loop of Tarzan running were so distinctive I knew they must have based them on the movie. He does not move like any other character in the game, just like Tarzan in that film doesn’t move like any other character up to that time, that mixture of actual gorilla movement and board sportsmanship is so unique. I don’t know if it’s THE best but it’s certainly an underrated gem; probably the last of the “Renaissance” or “New Golden Age” films, unless Mulan came later which I do not think it did

[@Mrs0biWanKenobi]

You mean the CGI tree branch surfing stuff? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Doge_gamer11]

Bro really said, do you agree with her reasonings when she didn’t even say anything lol

[@ОлександрКукушкін-р2р]

I love her animations and still remember them. It's so sad she quit

[@dar4061]

Not really, they wernt doing the stuff she did anymore so nothing was missed out by her quitting, she left the job that didnt exist for 5 years at that point.

[@Bunnylover4ever3]

😢

[@vladthecon]

better that she didn't get her reputation tarnished by the modern trash.

[@cloppin]

@@dar4061You say “not really” as if that wasn’t the OP’s own opinion 🤦🏽‍♂️.

[@J-R-2000]

Her hand drawn animation especially with an animals that can’t even talk human language is so expressive!!! You can immediately tell the expression and the emotions. The fact pegasus and abu is so iconic because they are so adorable relatable.

[@BradleySherlock-n4x]

Never heard of anthropomorphic art?

[@ummno8645]

@@BradleySherlock-n4x human-like expressive facial features is new concept. Heck maybe she paved the way bc earlier animations had Anthropomorphic animals w just their usual facial features(that can speak and stand)

[@ThePandaAgenda]

@@BradleySherlock-n4xfurry r34 commissioner spotted

[@ThePandaAgenda]

@@ummno8645Imagine people look at the Cats movie and think “yes. this is good.”

[@GOD-strive-to-be-like-him]

Sculpting is the closest thing to hand drawn animation she thought of and wanted to do.

[@abhabh6896]

sounds more like she liked the 3D aspect of her CGI animaton.... She could have continued to draw or hand animate but she chose to sculpt... seems like CGI actually helped her find a new interest.

[@30pranaypawar17]

yeah but one's more risky than other. 😳

[@mastephenjitchi4253]

Hand drawn animations are gold. Without her, there wouldn't have been good Disney animations to this day. I hope hand drawing animators can still find their relevance to this day. ❤

[@AllfatherBlack]

as far as i can tell she literally defined the best phase Disney ever had

[@Altay0047]

With those AI going arround, soon or later even 3d animator would left the chat.

[@Muhammad_marij]

You can try watching anime I guess, there are a-lot of gold anime out there

[@ericmartinez1665]

@@Altay0047ai can’t animate yet

[@Altay0047]

@@ericmartinez1665 but still they can illustrate words.

[@citrinethecorgi]

Most companies are far too cgi oriented when making movies. The value of hand drawn animation can not be understated. I really wish disney didnt completely shift to cgi and still had hand some hand drawn movies, it would make it so much more diverse.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Okay.. so if dinsey stayed hand drawn forever no one would complain that 3d didn't get any recognition? 3d is still an art form

[@_..PorcelainDoll]

@@bungiecrimes7247I think what they mean is it’d be nice if there were both, to fit certain movie’s, and help bring it more to life through the different art styles. As if say for example, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves were 3D, it might not’ve felt the same as 2D, Or if Tangled were 2D, it might not’ve felt the same either. Kinda like how each art style is great for their own unique reasons, because taking a picture of a real person in a costume might not itch the human brain the way a drawing might, where exaggerated and distinct features come in to play

[@psychokinesis3090]

@@bungiecrimes72472D animation is way more expressive. Nothing is wrong with CGI but when it comes to disney its been the same slop for over a decade now and its real tiring.

[@lioedevon4275]

@@psychokinesis3090^^^^^^ plus it’s also harder to train 2D animators. If you do 2d you gotta be able to both draw and animate. 3d you don’t need to know how to draw. It helps but you don’t need to know it to be good

[@orangeslash1667]

@@psychokinesis3090 CGI can look great, but in fantasy stories I find it to be kinda restrictive compared to 2d. I struggle to imagine the Genie from Aladdin being impressive in 3d. Even Kingdom Hearts has a hard time animating this character. It's no wonder why Iago was the focus in KH 2's Aladdin.

[@brotalosky]

Just from her little boucing back and forth you can tell how well her mind puts together these exagerated movements which makes animimation so alive. I love it! Glad she found a new art to dove into

[@avidadolares]

Shes not bouncing around for nothing. Its called acting. Acting out the scene is what every good animator does it. Exaggerating is key to making the animation read better.

[@Mokiefraggle]

@@avidadolares Particularly, Disney was always big on using live motion and actual people and things to get a feel for how something might translate into movement in the animation. That's why they'd bring in actual animals to be observed by the artists for things like Lion King, or have someone actually posing or working out the movements while the artists draw, or even artists acting something out in the mirror so they can see how the body moves. It's especially important when you're trying to sort out how to do things like how a very human movement is going to work on a non-anthropomorphic animal (that little bit of her doing the dramatic, flourishing bow is from her work on Zazu, IIRC).

[@m00zic]

Yeh absolutely agree 💯 hand drawn animation is moving art I think this is why people gravitate to Ghibli now whereas Disneys not creating classics anymore. It's a bit of hit machine churning out one hit wonders. I still like them but the hand drawn ones remain everyone's all time favourite

[@cheeseman80000]

bro the discord sfx actually made me think i got a message 💀💀

[@lucabrust346]

luckily I read the comment before I clicked on discord. thanks

[@joebro4846]

same

[@alphathesigma]

real

[@dannyxcat]

i was so excited that someone mightve been talking to me :/

[@darebear2438]

Touch grass kid

[@TrunkyDunks]

Good for her. She literally played a huge part in all of our childhoods.

[@FringeWizard2]

Not mine I don't watch any television since 9/11... and I don't understand popular culture, but I know an immense about of philosophy and history.

[@TrunkyDunks]

@FringeWizard2 that's great. The rest of us grew up with 90s disney movies. Sorry 9/11 ended your technology literacy? Tf

[@FringeWizard2]

@TrunkyDunks I understand tech I just haven't had my mind posted like yours with stupid childish cartoons for decades.

[@mattrb8101]

@@FringeWizard2 ur a weirdo lmao

[@So-Many-Orphans_.Husky.]

⁠@@FringeWizard2That’s not a flex…

[@DogBond520]

Traditional animators can understand that feeling 👌

[@QEsposito510]

You could say the same for artists across most mediums. Technological advancements are handy and make sense on the business side, but there will always be a line where those handling the money will cross without a second thought. They don’t understand or value that artistic flourish within the brain that sparks big ideas. Large companies that deal in any sort of art are essentially trying to recreate lightning in a bottle, doing it on a schedule, and selling it to whoever they can convince it’s actually that real special thing.

[@ZyroPapuchon18]

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[@jokenboy4983]

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[@SondoPlayz20]

​@@ZyroPapuchon18 no one asked

[@EveAndThings]

Im a christian but thats literally just offtopic​@@ZyroPapuchon18

[@kiki712.]

i love hand drawn movies. they make me feel something I can’t explain

[@BlueSky_fur]

„Do you agree with her reasonings?“ My man, no one has to agree or disagree, it’s her choice to leave a job 😂🤔

[@ohthereyouarepeter1435]

Right lol the entitled and controlling that exists is mind-blowing. Seems like everyone in the media just wants to be a dictator lol

[@majdijones587]

You can still agree or disagree lol stop trying to sound smart

[@BlueSky_fur]

@@majdijones587 glad you felt the need to let me in your head❤️

[@Udontknowmi]

​@@majdijones587 She just said she loved sculpting more. This youtuber gave a word salad when the explanation is so short. And it's ironic because this is a youtube SHORT.

[@solame4983]

I disagree

[@chanverse7555]

Let her make her own show, let her cook!

[@bungiecrimes7247]

She's gonna have to sculpt a lot of stone for every frame 😬

[@sushirice1473]

​@@bungiecrimes7247😂

[@vivina333]

Kys

[@Petrzmolik]

I mean i dont see why some big youtube channel or netflix wouldnt get her to make 2d animation again! I looooved 2d movies. All movies after like Meet the Robinsona where i could see it being useful just feel PURELY cash grabs.

[@lazerith840]

@@PetrzmolikI guess you missed the point she stopped because SHE wanted to stop.

[@monster_livez]

Bro got a discord notification half way through lol

[@keef_khan]

these discord sounds are criminal - i thought i was going crazy

[@eliseyoung9823]

😅😂 I thought it was me and my phone hahaha checked it and nothing, only just seen this comment lols

[@elmehdichoukri5378]

he does it so you go back through the whole short to check if you're tweewking these guys are on their bread fr

[@monster_livez]

@@elmehdichoukri5378 Fair point and ive been one of the victims

[@z.ahiriyyah]

@@elmehdichoukri5378also so you comment about it

[@robinlinh]

didn't hear a single word she said about she is tired of CGI/3D in this video, in fact she seems to like it enough to work with new tech for 5 years. Simply she wanted to be a sculptor so she left. Wouldn't warrantee that she will not quit even if she can still do 2D. After a long and succesful career many people just want to do something new before all of their energy run out. This video tried to lean hard into "3D make her quit".

[@wile123456]

She didn't quit because they didn't hand draw, she discovered her sculpting passion BECAUSE of the 3D work she did. Stupid click bait shorts. Wasting the internet bandwidth and humanities time

[@favour911]

Exactly

[@goldyguns9545]

I like that a lot 😂 tell ‘em

[@MileHiGuy95]

Agreed, blocking this guy

[@tsm688]

Thank you. Even the short doesn't say she hated 3d. Of course "3d bad" is 99% of the comments.

[@dragoness777]

I think she just needed something different and moved on after trying something new, which I fully support. Sometimes that's just something you need in life

[@fluffyflareon4152]

agree! doesnt matter if anyone "agrees with her reasonings" like the video asks, she just feels more passionate about other stuff now

[@sissysovereign1294]

​@@fluffyflareon4152 I agree. She probably feels as though she lived her dream and now wants to pursue other things. I definitely can't fault someone for that.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

​@@fluffyflareon4152completely agree

[@notxvexorr4379]

I don't understand these "I fully support that" comments... Umm.. ok as if you wouldn't support it and who cares if you dont

[@pantslesswrock]

I think y’all are failing to get that point that she didn’t “move on to something new”, she found she enjoyed 3D modeling so much more than drawing she decided to do it physically. And it makes sense when you consider how well her 2D characters represent 3D motion - she was secretly a 3D artist this whole time and didn’t realize it.

[@westlee1626]

Hand drawn is so unique and pretty, I’ll never get tired of how it looked.

[@Fernandezx7]

I have a close friend named Craig who used to work at Disney under the same supervisor. Craig was an incredibly talented artist who contributed to the creation of numerous Disney cartoons and movies. Meeting Craig was a real pleasure for me. However, he's facing challenges at the moment as he is working as a security guard at the studio Plaza. Despite his exceptional talent and deep affection for animation, Craig, being an older gentleman, is finding it difficult to secure a job. His experience extends not only to Disney but also to other animation studios. Unfortunately, with the advent of new technologies, he lost his job.

[@samuraiinblack8364]

Mad respect. You have to be where your talents are welcomed and appreciated, period, especially when it's driven by art.

[@thameloverse869]

That Discord notification was uncalled for.

[@zayedahmed2009]

bahaha i didnt even have discord open and it had me stressing

[@JantheYeen]

@@zayedahmed2009 frr

[@roselaufey5046]

Haha completely thought it was mine and was going to open it after I was done looking at the comments 😂

[@swarajdash9975]

@@zayedahmed2009 haha, same

[@adrianmiller4020]

Seriously. The discord ping is our version of the smoke detector beep, and the fact people are adding it in for extra effect is really annoying.

[@ItsAK9]

She's actually so respectable for leaving. Disney's CGI era has been nothing interesting like ever. The writing went downhill and the animation has been nothing groundbreaking.

[@BelBelle468]

Uhh huh…no. Just no. Disney has produced so many duds in 2D, and a lot of exceptional 3D movies too. The writing quality isn’t tied to the animation. Ppl who worked on Tangled were literally apart of the 2D Disney Renaissance. The animation is still good, and every film aims to do something new with new technology. And it’s not like Disney hasn’t reused its 2D animation too. Point is, the downward trend is less to do with animation and more to do with the executives in charge. It’s not a coincidence that Disney has been canceling or changing some of its best content in recent years.

[@ItsAK9]

@BelBelle468 Never said writing quality was tied to animation. Writing is almost always super important to whether a movie is enjoyable or not. Great animation with a bad/boring story doesn't = a good movie. Animation is a tool of expression. If you enjoy 3D animation that's great for you! The best 3d animation I've seen is the 3d that is trying to express itself as more 2d. The art style is very important to me, and majority of 3d projects have that very "basic pixar" style that really makes the actual well animated pieces few and far in between in the movies and harder to see. Not saying 2d animation doesn't have its duds, but there was almost always soul and passion in a lot of the movies because of how traditional it was and the massive amount of work being put in. Also, bad animation is just bad animation. Yeah of course higher ups and pay really does and will always affect the quality of their workers, but it doesn't change what is being seen by the audience.

[@madamii]

"Never said writing quality was tied to animation." Then why did you phrase it like this? 😭 "Disney's CGl era has been nothing interesting like ever. The writing went downhill and the animation has been nothing groundbreaking."

[@ItsAK9]

@@madamii There's nothing really wrong with the phasing, I don't understand? I think you might be overthinking it or there's something I'm missing, sorry. I never say or imply that writing was tied to animation. I separate the 2 topics with an "AND." "The writing went downhill AND the animation has been nothing groundbreaking."

[@fanime1]

Zootopia and Encanto were great and they're from the same director. It was also his idea to ask the women in the studio what they find attractive in a man and then incorporated that info into Flynn Rider's design. I think he's the last good director Disney has.

[@dedompler]

that discord notif messed me up for a sec

[@alinaballerina27]

she’s so real for that...they need to bring her back & revive 2d animation

[@Soulnado]

They tried. Nobody wanted to see it.

[@Yesqueen851]

@@Soulnadowhich movie did they bring her back for?

[@MarkReyes_]

@@Soulnadowhich movie

[@txgunguy2766]

There's a LOT that Disney needs to go back to do the way they used to. If Walt suddenly came back and saw the way his company is being run, he'd IMMEDIATELY shut it down and fire pretty much all of the upper management.

[@antemedon]

They won't, it's not cost and time efficient.

[@alwaysstayclassy.forever]

Workers name is Ellen Woodbury. She quit because Disney switched to 3d. she liked it but quickly got bored of it after 5 years.she then went to rock sculpting. There I saved you time.

[@boslyporshy6553]

In 2005

[@Cogic]

Dork!!

[@pragyadixit802]

First of all, it's a YT short. Instead of watching short if someone has to scroll just to read your summary, it has already wasted their time. So, you didn't save any body's time.

[@yindax9521]

Quits from Disney because they started 3D animation, then decided to do 3D art 😂

[@gabrielliu152]

Animating 2D to sculpting 3D.

[@Wolfy_13]

Probably a HUGE respect to her for being an artist! But i kinda sad that she quit

[@BDLabs2]

You’re telling me she learned how to sculpt in the computer, and got inspired to do the same in real life?… the audacity

[@ahatinahalf]

That's not how that works. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[@marirose313]

​@ahatinahalf 3d animation is pretty much sculpting just not physically lmao

[@ahatinahalf]

@marirose313 No, it's not. You do some sculpting when you make a 3d model, but it isn't life real life sculpting at all.

[@ahatinahalf]

@@marirose313 And once all the models are made there is pretty much no more sculpting.

[@jeremyzapsmash]

​@@ahatinahalfare you saying that Zbrush sculpting is different from real life sculpting? I'm curious what the difference is.

[@BlazyWinters8366]

She's an artist, sinple as that, whether it's animation, sculpturing, painting, or drawing they're all some type of art form. Being as talented as she is she's not limited to one job and when she lost inspiration in animation she chose to express her artistry somewhere else. Props to her to doing what makes her happy.

[@OTGSanguine]

- Stopped working for Disney - Started her own career as a stone sculptor - W

[@NellielGrimmjow]

But... "do you agree with her reasonings?"

[@V4mpir3_br3]

I LOVE "MEET THE ROBINSON'S"😭❤️ SUCH A UNDERRATED MOVIE✨

[@chrisdaven4775]

The discord sfx got me 💀💀💀

[@chipgehrig]

i thought i was the only one who heard that

[@Vest2854]

It tricked me into checked me discord

[@noob_kitten]

@@Vest2854 same

[@vanessastoddart5166]

Saame oi 🤦‍♀️😂

[@katelynruddick6769]

I'm on my computer at work and still got bamboozled

[@Sophia-nv7ue]

That’s why people love anime so much. When’s Disney gonna realize how much we loved our 2d animation?

[@tesso.6193]

Lots of 3D is used in anime nowadays but they're getting them as close as possible to 2D

[@rd3munna812]

You do realise most animators are under paid?

[@tesso.6193]

@@rd3munna812 but how is that relevant to the 2D/3D discussion? They're all underpaid regardless of medium

[@LowLevelLemmy]

Bro you’re making great shorts. You don’t have to put that stupid discord sound effect in your videos. Don’t feel the pressure to resort to tactics like that.

[@noel_curray]

I think he intentionally do this stupid thing to get engagement. I hate that i check my phone because of that ping.

[@user-kr2yj4dm3l]

@@noel_curray yup, its not the only stupid thing this guy does to get engagement. Animation for me has been mostly zero ego and low toxicity, nothing like this bullshit trying to force drama to sell out. There's nothing dramatic about her changing her vocation. She went from one creative endeavor to another... This is made out like Disney did her wrong. This is just cringe.

[@Thewolfguys.cartoons2000]

Every KZbin content creator always uses that like David Reyes

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

​@@noel_curraysame bro that shit is annoying

[@BattleX666]

Neither does the artifical inflation of the length. Took bro 70% of the video to just answer a simple question

[@jian7004]

Hand-drawn animation is really hard and time consuming to make, plus a 60fps CGI animation would be better for viewers rather than 24-30fps animations which puts a strain on the eyes.

[@Remhad]

Hand-drawn animations were always so much more magical too me.

[@niyazalam6972]

wow that makes you look cool.. watch cinderellas first movie and frozen.. (side by side) you will see the magic!!

[@Ang_848]

Old Disney movies were the bomb. They brought so much character and warmth from childhood. I only watch old Disney movies

[@sophiacalon3463]

And now we need to see a “it is offensive” thingy if you’re ok Disney plus. Apparently the aristocrats a racially charged 😀

[@foxbutterfly-eden8715]

Oh no! Not a content warning about racism! Whatever shall we do? 🙄

[@milkyyblucheese]

I miss disney's hand drawn animation too. I feel like, hand drawn animation shows how much care and effort one puts in a single movie/show/short clip and also, actually drawing by hand is fun and more original

[@JorgeLuisGarcia101]

Yeass...! You laid it right, but sadly Dsny exects aren't willing to put up with the extra time and money that 2d entails, I hope some how AI can bring real 2s back! not 3d mimicking it, but real 2d frame by frame, lets hope for it 2D❤

[@alexius3411]

@@JorgeLuisGarcia101 AI will ruin both 2D artists and 3D artists

[@JorgeLuisGarcia101]

@@alexius3411 AI can do it if law lets it, if people/artist do, I don't foresee a guild of any discipline that would ever alow their employers to trade them all for a giant pc to single "handed" do a whole movie from the secnd 01 to the very end, limits must be laid, this is our world after all, not our tools playground and legislations will come, just as it happened with drones on cities

[@midnightexe7248]

But nooooo, 3D animation is "easier"

[@baconstopsultimateusers]

I agree with her, as an artist. Your hands are better than what AI can comprehend

[@mydogghost]

Ai?

[@LaMessenger]

She created most of the characters from my childhood

[@Charlie_can_animate]

The way she said “🦍🦍🦍” while walking is mad 😂😂

[@wisefries4205]

I never heard her say "gorilla gorilla gorilla".

[@Medachod]

​@@wisefries4205 Gotta check on them ears then.

[@BandLBestiebros]

She's just like me fr fr

[@Charlie_can_animate]

@@wisefries4205 😐

[@coolaconsole8649]

"This is why Disney's best animator quit" "They didnt want to work there anymore" Pointless video

[@usagi9789]

also this heavily implied that she quit because of CGI, but at the end she clearly quit to pursue her passion for sculpting which is completely irrelevant to CGI lmaooo

[@terraryzing201]

Absolutely. All her characters were so unique and never looked generic as the current disney characters. I guess that was the beauty of 2D Film.

[@koharumi1]

It is a crime no one has mentioned Mulan (1998)

[@blinknpoof]

she was the supervisor at Mulan?

[@The-8bitcat-robotics]

Fr

[@yourhandlehere1]

"Mulan"

[@duewhat9815]

"do you agree with her reasoning's" Her reasoning: "They changed from one art form to another which influenced my interests to change so I followed those new interests instead." What exactly is there to agree or disagree with? Disney made a choice that suited their interests and she made a choice that suited hers.

[@swagmuffin9000]

and it looks like she's happy as well. i don't see why anyone should disagree with it. finding happiness in work is difficult as it is, glad she found it in sculpting

[@gumtreeterry9904]

I totally agree with you. Just more click-bait rubbish.

[@Daniel__Nobre]

Exactly, just chasing likes. KZbin and TikTok and whatnot killed quite a bit of diversity of content. Everyone now just goes for the trendy click baits.

[@marzxrover1595]

My great grandmother could have drawn for Disney, shes a great artist. They had asked her herself to work for them but at the time her husband didn’t want her too bc he was the worker and they had 8+ kids. Always think about how amazing it would have been if she got that opportunity

[@musomaster9027]

I know this is a short but it could have been way shorter. She was good, she didn’t like CGI, she got into sculpting.

[@RobinMoreOrLess]

Reasoning? She's pursuing her artistic passion. There's nothing to debate. Also, the discord sound effect was uncalled for.

[@divine_simplicity]

Yep! Shows that shes doing it out of passion and not just for the Money, they wouldve payed her way more if she stayed yet she choose to follow her own art - shes so talented & played a big part of my childhood (and the ones of so many kids..) I miss her style

[@mistertwister2000]

Wish should’ve been 2D as a callback for their 100th anniversary, or at least a proper mix and not just a lazy filter over 3D models that tried and failed to emulate the Spiderverse style

[@trix5617]

yeah fr, Wish could have been amazing if they didn't use chat gpt to write the mfn script

[@shilasarkar6003]

Well It needed a complete rewriting to even be called "good"

[@tsm688]

@@shilasarkar6003 this. who cares what it looks like if you can't even get the writing right

[@brakeduster]

I looked up her sculptures online. They're all very cool and they look like proper 3d cartoon characters as well. Really nice! I hope she's successful with it!

[@funilyily]

And they’re all memorable characters too ❤

[@1st_SGT_Bussey]

Good for her she was able to adapt with the times and then realized it wasn't for her and found something equally fullfilling

[@4rtie]

So, it's not "because Disney stopped making hand drawn animation", but rather because through Disney producing 3D animation she discovered her passion for sculpting

[@ryanlynch290]

Bill Peet also quit back in the day. Apparently he was walking through the studio yelling, "No more ducks!" 😂

[@breadbang56]

This is why most anime’s are still good, the hand drawing is immaculate

[@hunterh1175]

« Do you recognize them? » they’re hidden under the fucking captions

[@Autumn-LeafWCUE]

Why is no one talking about the fact she said she was leaving cuz she wanted to be a sculptor , but the guy said she left cuz she didn’t like making 3d animations 😭?

[@ninja_tony]

And she even said she really enjoyed working in CGI, so the maker of this video is a complete idiot.

[@aoi2415]

Disney should do both, 2D and 3D animations. It can really change the setting and tone for the stories they're making.

[@stevrgrs]

It’ll probably be more like into the spiderverse. Most of the guys I know doing 2D are switching to blender and other apps to make 2D animations in 3D. Heck , I loved into the spiderverse once I got used to it lol It was definitely Cloverfield level jarring at first 😂

[@dreemurrdelm7865]

She didn't exactly abandon the dream job per say, she just found another dream to chase. I'm happy she could be so inspired.

[@hp.the.tigerpop1816]

I think the key to Disney's hand-drawn animations being such a higher quality not just in visual aesthetics but in music production and story/character building was time. It took tremendous time and effort to produce those movies but i think it gave time in a sense where you had to take the time in order for it to look right and feel right on screen. also, i think they actually cared about producing a story, rather just pumping something out to get revenue.

[@thepikachu176]

Had to pause and try to figure out what kind of tower of paper cones she was sitting on but I couldn't figure it out

[@andhemills]

Looks like her trash can.

[@samwallaceart288]

Padded out most of this with redundant information, then skipped out on her actual reasoning. You managed to fill 60 seconds with 5 seconds of information when 60 seconds of just her interview would've been fine

[@cristianmirasol1538]

classic YT reels

[@mochaismilk]

And of course he had to get in some Wish animation clips that aren't even relevant to the topic for some extra engagement

[@ghost_circuit666]

She literally said she enjoyed doing computer animation. She left to become a classical sculpter. It had nothing to do with Dinseys choices.

[@montrealstewart8339]

I can relate. Some just like traditional art more than digital art.

[@jtrapdolll]

im happy just knowing disney didn’t fire her and she left to find more creative ways 🙂‍↕️

[@isam_ii502]

I really respect the fact that she took an initiative with what she wanted. Most people hesitate to take action when they like they want change and end up really miserable.

[@JennZtv]

A legend dies every day, just make sure you have a story to tell.

[@blondegiraffe2023]

This woman is a role model. She is amazingly skilled, knows what she wants and has the courage to persue new opportunities that make her happy. What a cool lady!

[@LoneMaestro-]

Well she wants to pursue her happiness and most don't have that option. It is a good thing to be able to walk away from something you've once loved and pursue another passion. If she ever needs to she can take those previous skills somewhere else or back to Disney

[@joceery]

I remember her! I'm not surprised she went away ... love that she follows her heart

[@AL-lh2ht]

I mean she works a high paying job for decades and then basically does a soft retirement

[@PhillipReid28]

Reason for quitting = She was bored and become a stone sculptor. Timed saved your welcome

[@dragonblast417]

Bro!!! That hand drawn animation of King Magnifico in the beginning was so fire🔥🔥🔥 His beard and mustache looked more Magnificent (pun intended) I didn't even notice his facial hair in the trailers (cuz I didn't watch the movie)

[@abc-gv3ry]

I LITERALLY FEEL THE SAME WAY! I'm Gen Z, but even so I know the classics. 3D animated movies just don't hit the same. They don't have that classic Disney personality. Disney needs to bring it back, I loved it so much and so did many other people.

[@tiffanypeyton6219]

Yesss! I was watching The Fox and the Hound a few months ago and was like, "why did they stop the 2D???"

[@DORAisD34D]

Encanto

[@shanlui5228]

@@DORAisD34Dnot hand drawn

[@DORAisD34D]

@@shanlui5228 I know but its animation was still colorful and lively even if it was 3D CGI

[@tsm688]

feel the same way as what? Nothing she said was about that...