Anime Theory: Near's HUGE PROBLEM! (Death Note Theory)

[@duoreview7492]

I am going to be taking a short rest from Death Note before my next 2 Death Note Theories. I'm a little burned out, and need a change of pace. Don't worry though, the Death Note Theories will be worth the wait. =D

[@Caitlin289]

No worries dude! Take your time! :)

[@girlycowgaming5607]

i cant wait

[@Anny-me9ny]

We will never get sick of the death note theory’s :)))

[@cozycr8485]

At this point this channel is "Death Note Theory"

[@Riskofrain527]

i suggest you watch kato's video on near

[@erikburgos744]

I love light and Ls inner monologues especially when they do the hair colour change

[@aini6570]

yeah especially during the tennis match and when L’s theme is playing

[@userK77920]

Ikr

[@ElmoElmoSWAZILAND]

yeah

[@delayedcreator4783]

@Grant Mitchell potato chips entered the chat

[@ninathepotato975]

Same

[@katiek6951]

Anyone notice that their names are far what what they are? L (Loser) is W (Winner) Light (Good) is Dark (Evil) Near is Distant (from others) Mello is Harsh (self explanatory)

[@jaxthewolf4572]

Interesting, never thought of it that way

[@jdjcjw1902]

Aiden Pearce yes sadly, *he is dead*

[@j.gwells5252]

Katie K No, Near’s name signifies that the end is nigh, how they are so near of catching Light.

[@ssgsscanadianhawk3339]

L is Lonely

[@notablink182fanaccount2]

L is mno

[@StoicKobra]

L: Genius investigator who feels human by being able to see his thought process and who makes mistakes Near: A child who just magically knows the answer to everything he thinks of. Mello: *CHOCOLATE* Edit: wait a minute, mello is 75% of a s’more, he has the chocolate, he is the marshmallow, and he’s got the being on fire part down, now he just needs the graham cracker

[@dr.stronk9857]

Oh I remember when I was young and there was chocolate, I ALWAYS HATED IT

[@Vega2004]

I think people tend to forget hat MANGA exists

[@roycealphonso1386]

I don't understand why everyone is like just read tge manga when we're talking about near's character in the anime. The manga shouldn't really matter in this instance.

[@Vega2004]

@@roycealphonso1386 wtf sjznisbsksndidns@#?/":#

[@domtamu6179]

LOL mello : chocolate seriously hahaha but i thought mello was one of the cool character here.

[@pawn4562]

I guess Near should respect his Lders

[@duoreview7492]

Perfect.

[@Kimi-xp2th]

He does. Your comment is useless.

[@randomayaya]

He actually does more than you think.

[@sunfirefire45]

The door.

[@Ramzo.K]

Badum tsss

[@Anny-me9ny]

I think people also don’t like him because he acts like a robot. L had a personality

[@duoreview7492]

True. =D

[@phenomenalprofile7189]

thanks for saying what the video and everyone said

[@piyushpanchal6506]

Wrong

[@sailorcandy6633]

Both had no personality

[@chees434]

Sailor Candy so not true L had a monotone voice but his personality was much more interesting and you could tell he had a good heart

[@yasirarshad7725]

Whatever the flaws are.This is one of the best anime ever built.

[@littlemoth4956]

Gotta agree. It's really a shame how badly done Near's arc is, when the rest is phenominal. The show had some of the best concepts and characterization I've ever seen.

[@littlemoth4956]

@@zainabakano5017 Yeah, I heard about it. It's sad because they clearly put effort in, but like many other anime, they simply didn't have enough time/money to get it done.

[@BUDDAz1g]

Just finished watching it and I can agree this was amazing even my wife got into it

[@elza2400]

@@BUDDAz1g it would have been nice if Light "lasted" a little longer after seeing Near's face... In short, we knew after Light sees Near's face first time, Light's death is "near"😂

[@appleslover]

Ok death note worshipper

[@rivur._]

L: Light is Kira Police force: Impossible. Near: Light is Kira Police force: he’s a genius Fandom: Wtf.

[@nebeski9380]

AnimeLlamaa Well L suspected Light. The best detective in the world. Then someone almost matching L suspects the same thing. Think of it as 2 smart kids both got the same answer on a hard question, which was different from the rest of the class. One smart kid says the answer is this. The other kids: No. Another smart kid: Yes. Everyone: wait really?

[@iattacku2773]

Yea but L couldn’t prove it . That’s always been the issue

[@glossygamer7283]

@Dikshyant Singh he debunked well Mello said some rules are fake so he was able to find by checking each rule and Mello was told that by another shinigami

[@dsimi415]

@@glossygamer7283 People tend to forget that Near wouldn't have caught Light without Mello. He had his suspicions about Light but just like L, no hard evidence

[@aflooki]

I think a big part of it is that when L suspected Light, his literal dad who undyingly believed in his innocence was in the task force. I think that might have had something to do with it idk.

[@harrowed2289]

"No tennis matches, no sudden fighting while on handcuffs, no bizarre jokes" Light x L Fangirls: *cough* No foot massage...

[@RoyFizzle]

Radio Free Hayden lmao!!!

[@trongtin7754]

No potato chip??

[@redacted5078]

Please stop this

[@roshanrai3706]

Hes a bot and when he looked at somebody he will clearly sees what is his or her mind"no joking".

[@AstralBelt]

anyone who see the foot massage as gay if ignorant. It is religious imagery alluding to Jesus washing the feet of Judas Iscariot, with L being Jesus and Judas being Light

[@nateproject948]

L: *SUGAR* Mello: *CHOCOLATE* Near: *TOYS*

[@Miadhasan120k]

Light : pOtAtO cHiP Ryuk : aPpLe Matsuda : iDiOt

[@Lampfinder1619]

m!§ä: L!ğhť.

[@이예은-w2v]

Sidoh: NOTEBOOOOOK

[@amansaklani4617]

Rem : Misa

[@hadley_mcdonald]

Aizawa: ~afro~ (RIP)

[@lqu]

L was better. Near just magically knows stuff whilst L actually felt like a real investigator.

[@Coolms9]

IKR

[@mazelovesosa]

Exactly tf

[@neeljha8609]

Read the manga..... It might help

[@marcelissah6275]

Stop hating on my favorite fucking character bitch

[@shaheenwani8825]

@• Maria • him or her?

[@itsatalex3059]

L: dies Light: NOW I CAN BECOME THE GOD OF THE NEW WORLD Near: hello I am L but with white hair Light: are you SERIOUS?!?!?!?!??!?!?

[@gachafrost7653]

Boom_warrior death note but really fast?

[@gamingworld-bo5cp]

Yea

[@inactive9550]

Ya you think I haven't seen an but really fast ay

[@itsatalex3059]

@Chaotic Noob Its a comment on a youtube video 😂 you don't have to be jealous that I have more likes than you lol 😆

[@itsatalex3059]

@Chaotic Noob ok sure buddy 😂

[@spicycatboi3085]

mello was a more interesting character even though he had less screentime

[@manuelbonelli3690]

Yes because he was very different from all the others characters

[@cj5857]

@@manuelbonelli3690 Mello could have been incredible, a character with L’s capabilities but a completely different personality and look.

[@manuelbonelli3690]

@@cj5857 exactly.... Mello could have been used a lot better

[@rex2077]

Mello's personality is horrible but its better then Near's nonexistent personality.

[@kathhqq7]

Mello was more of a risk-taker which made him more enjoyable than Near, who was more of an overly cautious type.

[@amateruss]

The writers got bored when they killed L.

[@bananafactory9242]

And so did we

[@rafasierra6300]

happyending tsunami exactly

[@hanzo6378]

After the death of L, light's character became bold and predictable by showing some expressions, he was totally out of his character.

[@novalsko]

You just didn't read the manga

[@SomeSomeCruzz00]

@ Where da source

[@plzcme434]

I don't think this is a theory, more like a character analysis.

[@duoreview7492]

It's just easier to call it a theory and move on. Whenever I make these kinds of videos, people ask me why I didn't just call it a theory. (Same goes for the musical analysis videos ironically. XD)

[@ryukishi07thecreator70]

Rage ing Do you know from which anime's OP this guy took his intro?

[@ryukishi07thecreator70]

Rage ing Thanks.

[@ryukishi07thecreator70]

Rage ing I checked School live's OP, but it sounded too different than this guy's intro.

[@plzcme434]

@@ryukishi07thecreator70 Mirai Nikki's Op

[@Matasuh]

i liked aizawa until he cut his hair, after he cut his hair he became a whole new person

[@raskult]

Right he seemed like he was just ‘part of the cast’ once he cut his hair he wasn’t the character he used to be

[@J1t03]

He gained powers called quirks too. In fact, the whole world did.

[@Matasuh]

@@J1t03 80%

[@J1t03]

Won Peace dang it I forgot about that XD

[@tofu224]

I like your cut G *slaps*

[@drunkdog4353]

The second half would've been so much better if Near and Mello had worked together throughout the whole arc. Imagine Mello's impulsive, aggressive attitude working with Near's wry, condescending personality. Tell me that wouldn't have been entertaining.

[@BeyondB.]

I totally agree with you. It would have been interesting to see that. And Mello shouldn't have died...

[@sophiad.5159]

I would have lived for brotherly bickering.

[@ernestinemaloy6752]

Drunk dog I thought near and mello were brothers ?? Also feel near was trying too hard to belike L ...in the end he calls himself L anyway...

[@thespanishinquisition7560]

no, they were supposed to be rivals and them working together would have been impossible because of their circumstances anyway. mello was a terrorist, near was a detective. a huge part of their characters was their pride and how much they hate to lose, especially mello because of his inferiority complex towards near. working together would mean completely setting their pride aside for the both of them wich they as characters would never do and that would also destroy the dynamic between them. and actually, we did in a way see them working together when mello finally got over his pride and chose to sacrifice himself because it was already too late and it was the only was for mello to not lose even though he could no longer truly attain victory. actually having them working together would either require huge character arcs that take up a whole lot of screentime or a complete rewrite of their characters, so I don't agree

[@amirmuhammadgymnast]

mastah baytur I do agree with your opinion. However a smaller arc intertwining both mello and near into a circumstance that forced them to work together and push aside their pride would’ve been more interesting than what was provided. The ending, as well as the story building up to the ending, would’ve been both intriguing and satisfying to the viewers.

[@zzthedon4k]

"It felt like one guy was handed the test answers while another guy was so confident he'd pass that he didn't study." This. This right here sums up the ending of Death Note.

[@novalsko]

Zak Z Read the manga

[@rysebii]

wait i don't get it

[@nebulous5754]

That is exactly what was supposed to happen, if L died then N or M was to take his position so ofcourse he got his results, it was more of a relay than cheating, they weren't competing. Moreover Near's every speculation came with a reasoning.

[@HarshDude126]

@@nebulous5754 Near's reasoning is bullshit. He comes to conclusions that don't logically make any sense. Out of everyone in Japan, he figures out that Mikami is X-Kira just by thinking about it for five minutes. No evidence, no effort, no nothing, yet he always gets the right answers. Near is a poorly written character.

[@Trashy_3-qr7cq]

@@HarshDude126 You are just hating on near read the manga when he is building a stack of cards or stacking up dice he is showing his thought process and his toys actually mean something unlike L sweets or mellows chocolate

[@Sohelanthropus]

I think Mello was very interesting, his attitude and way of doing things were badass. It would've been a nice change from the psychological fight to a more crude and physical fight.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Mello was a diversion to throw Light off his game. Similar to the way L made seemingly rash moves such as exposing himself to Light It worked in the end

[@Obesno0]

Agree completely. Something that has bothered me with Near for the longest time is how he just somehow knew Mikami was in possession of the Death Note. The most Near had to go off of was that Mikami was on television praising Kira... in a time when everyone and their mother praised Kira. It feels entirely like the author just wanted Near to know Mikami was X-Kira at that time and couldn't think of a logical explanation as to why Near should of come to that conclusion.

[@duoreview7492]

That was one of the biggest issues for me as well. They barely even tried to justify it. XD

[@Austin-pq6lr]

Manga does a better job of it

[@randysavage2585]

Obesno0 It’s due to the specific things he said such as “I want to hear Kira’s words” and “we’ll have no choice but to act on our own”. Not to mention the timeline. If I remember correctly, Demigawa was killed, 4 days later, Mikami appeared and said what I quoted earlier, and 4 days after that, Takada was chosen.

[@Obesno0]

Not by much

[@randysavage2585]

Obesno0 Even if the manga did do a better job, that doesn’t change the fact that the information was still there in the anime, just that Near didn’t explain it in full detail because as I said, you could hear Mikami

[@aarondx3764]

I guess you can say Near's character "took the L" Fine I'll go write my own name in the Note.

[@duoreview7492]

No that was perfect please don't

[@dontburstmybubble686]

Praises

[@karmicpiper1358]

😂😂😂 write mine down too 😂😂😂

[@karmicpiper1358]

Also *Near**

[@aarondx3764]

@@karmicpiper1358 OK sir I need your *Real* name and face and who's your favourite waifu (Don't ask about that last one just answer it.)

[@Jordan-rq3pi]

The reason we like L is because he’s human, he got emotional and showed human experiences while near was pure logic, he lacked emotion. Near was like a computer and that’s because he was raised to be the successor of L nothing more. Near was raised to be smarter than L carrying on his legacy, not to become his own person.

[@arciere9986]

Perfectly said

[@hanakostaman732]

L got emotional?

[@MM-gp9mb]

I kinda like that about near. It gives u a sense that he might be better than L. Also he was investigating Kira years before he even appeared in the series

[@NightRaven5568]

Actually he isn't smarter then L Near and Mello are the two halves of L and the only way they was able to take down Kira was not only with the help of L's past evidence and Mello

[@calebowen2006]

@@hanakostaman732 he didn't get emotional like sad or happy but he had something human about him in his inner dialog. Like seeing his struggles even if he didn't react much to them made him a neat character

[@Kotifilosofi]

I agree with points on this video. Still, a few more points to consider: - Near is way younger than L, which could be the reason he's (still) not as good at solving crimes. - if I remember right, the author indeed planned Near and Mello to be "halfs" of L; his sons. Near his logic and psychopathic side, Mello his passionate and obsessive side. The author wanted to honor L by not introducting another character better than him. - Near got to continue from where L had gotten. His role in the series is not to be "another genius detective", but tie the strings together which L had already found. Thus we can't really say that much about Near as a detective. - Near is not physically in the same place with Light until the end, that's logically the only choice the author could have made to avoid the same happening to him that did happen to L. That decreased the amount of practical funny everyday incidents that both made the series more fun to follow and made you know L better on personal level.

[@Vega2004]

The comment that anyone tends to ignore, completely blinded by their favoritism...Very good points, bro :))

[@Kotifilosofi]

@@Vega2004 thank you very much. Yeah, it's frustrating that people have so much "either/or" mentality when it comes to DN 😅

[@jefflight8188]

Well I guess I appreciate Near now more

[@namithasiby1574]

yes although wat u said is right and is probably wat the writers wanted to portray but didn't end up that way . Mello ended up almost non existent till the very end and it seemed like near was doin most of the tying strings together , it was more like L found everything and then died and near just finished like the 5% left off by L and still the victory ended up being nears and L seemed the one who light managed to defeat ... which is not cool . and also ya near and light being face to face with each other wud probably result is light just killing near like he did with L , but I think the conversations between them in person or via computer could have being more interesting if near 's character wasn't so robotic and we could have seen a more human side to near thru this banter which writers didn't explore

[@Kotifilosofi]

@Mason Watkins yeah, and the complex of Wammy's house and the other orphanages. That sub-plot, and learning more about their background, would be so interesting.

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

Near and Mello were both way better characters in the manga. Near shows personality and Mello holds the president of the USA hostage. That is brilliant and awesome

[@MotivatedPony]

Not everything of the manga were animated?!

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

@@MotivatedPony Nope. They cut so much when it came to Near and Mello.

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

@@siddhantsharma7728 True but Mello says to the president that if he doesn't do what he wants, he'll make the president launch a nuke to another country starting WW3. Of course this is a bluff as the death note can't kill multiple people like that unless their names are written down. The president doesn't know this.

[@cameron6593]

Thats the reson why i'm need money! I have to buy mangas. many mangas!

[@johnythepvpgod1470]

@@cameron6593 You can read it online

[@spaceboi6567]

L: dies Light: NOW IM THE GOD OF THE NEW WO- Near: hi im l but with white hair

[@yashfinkazmi]

Stolen

[@josephas.3705]

@@yashfinkazmi stolen what?

[@yashfinkazmi]

@@josephas.3705 have you watched the video death note but really fast?

[@josephas.3705]

@@yashfinkazmi chill, its just a comment

[@yashfinkazmi]

@@josephas.3705 I saw this comment twice in a day that's why

[@davidriddle6677]

Near built off of L's work and worked off of melo and he still didn't even beat light, instead lights servant made a mistake. L is obviously smarter

[@bingitybong6518]

Near made it very clear that he wasn’t smart as L but he didn’t care he caught Kira while L didn’t.

[@AkiraHisyamHobbiezz]

mikami made a mistake also part of near plan...they investigated mikami for month until they sure the teal note is inside a bank what he need is something unpredictable happen soo the mistake can happen a.k.a mellow intervene,if you read manga...im bet you read the manga...you know that everyone in near task force can see ryuk...mean they all touched the real note to forge fake note to fool mikami...they forge the note not in one day but dayssssss.

[@lilchopan8418]

@LiL Speng Pertaining to Light flexing he is Kira before killing, evidences was still pretty solid even if Light didn't flex on near. In addition to that, Teru already made an oopsiee again for calling light, God. The mistake he had was giving his full trust to teru. Teru is also smart and he knows how Light thinks but he's impulsive most of the time and that gave their guard down.

[@hollow.ex3316]

@@bingitybong6518 I think u forgot within like the 1st episode l was like. ‘It’s light.’

[@walkingarmageddon5479]

Without the (major) contributions and mistakes of others, the case wouldn’t be solved. Saying, if Mellow and lights other servant (L couldn’t be taken out without the story not being the story) were taken out.. Light Would have become the god of the new world. Lol

[@nayanxd6848]

Moral of Death Note :- When L died, the interesting plot of Death Note died too.

[@TheManOfTomorrow]

Absolutely.

[@AbdulRafay-hg6vn]

True

[@saraaaaaismail]

Season 3 I is coming soon I hope L comes back😤

[@thomasl5956]

@@saraaaaaismail wdym season 3 theres only one season with 37 ep (also is that confirmed or just smt made up?)

[@Kyle-fy3jk]

No, I enjoyed all of it

[@creativeusername3650]

“Near isn’t *nearly* as good as L”

[@David-es4pi]

I've grown to appreciate Near more over the years. There are a lot of valid points to be made against him, but I think he was actually the PERFECT person to defeat Light in the end. L was always obsessed with Kira, and clearly admired his opponent a lot, and was much less interested in actually stopping the killings. Near, on the other hand, says directly to Light's face that he's "nothing more than a crazy serial killer." In other words, Near doesn't respect Light. Near doesn't think of Light as anything special. And when considering just how much of a narcissist Light Yagami really is, that was a CRUSHING blow. Near is not as smart as L, or even Light. People complain that Near "got lucky," and they're actually exactly right, but I think that that's actually the point. Light's final defeat didn't come because he made a mistake, or because he was outplayed in some dramatic fashion; Light lost because of unfortunate circumstances (Mello's involvement). In other words, there was no divine power protecting Light. Light failed because unlike what he might've thought, he was NOT a god. He's a man, through and through. When he was shot... he bled. When his plans failed, he was exposed in front of everyone. Near may not be as smart as L, but Near recognized Kira's humanity in a way L never could. So even though Near may not have "earned it," I think that's why he was the perfect person to bring Light down a few rungs, and ultimately defeat him. Because he told Light that he wasn't special, something he'd needed to hear all along...

[@David-es4pi]

@Luke Groundwalker I disagree. The error wasn't in not having Mikami tear out pages; the mistake was when Mikami tried to kill Takada. If he'd torn out pages under Light's instructions "just in case," chances are he'd have just used those same pages to kill her, something Giovanni would've certainly seen, leading to basically the same sequence of events. Once again, Light didn't make the mistake here, and he wasn't "nerfed." He got unlucky. And because he wasn't a god, bad luck was enough to bring him down.

[@David-es4pi]

@Luke Groundwalker Light instructed Mikami not to make any unnecessary moves, and that didn't work out for him. The whole point is that Light didn't see Mello's move coming, and had no reason to believe that Mikami would've attempted to kill Takada. Mikami's actions that day were completely of his own accord, meaning Light would've had no reason to give him any additional orders for that situation (additionally, Mello's move destroyed their only means of communicating). It was made fairly clear that Light's instructions to Mikami were somewhat lacking, because their communication was so constrained (he probably didn't want to create more physical evidence either). We've seen Light make small oversights like this before, like at the very beginning when he impulsively kills Lind L. Tailor, or more importantly when he doesn't monitor Misa's actions enough, leading to his and Misa's arrest. And if you didn't notice, that's the same thing that happens with Mikami. They didn't nerf Light, they just showed us his weakness again: he's too self-absorbed to account for everything his allies are up to. What I'm saying is that Light was indeed perfectly capable of thinking of plans like what you've suggested... but he didn't have a full grasp on the situation until it was too late, and he didn't see the need to police all of Mikami's actions. He thought Near had taken his bait, and assumed that Mello lacked the resources to meaningfully harm him. And he was right about them both... he just didn't realize that they would affect each other in an unpredictable way.

[@lordgaben9721]

Needle41 his poor luck all started when the second death note came into play.

[@commanderkarkat2488]

This was very well-worded, and i agree completely!

[@AkiraHisyamHobbiezz]

yup,i agree.....in the end light not a god just a crazy bastard but he do admitted that light do a good deed by decreased the crime rate to 70%

[@raider7790]

The huge difference between L and N is ... L had a friend N did not...

[@Noobmasterdp]

Ha! Noice!

[@the4given196]

thats what made it special l and light liked eachother even if light knew he will have to kill l

[@naotsue9990]

@@the4given196 both of them actually despised eachother.

[@SchraderMcGavin]

The difference between L and N... Is M.

[@rohantumkur7915]

naotsue does the 7-0 Light definitely held L in an extremely high regard. When Light saw Near wearing a mask of L, he was angered because he knew that Near was in no way comparable to L.

[@heretic_7679]

L: “Light is Kira” Everyone else: “naaah no way” Near: “Light is Kira” Everyone else: “whaaaaaaat? Oh my god we gotta stop him”

[@ujesha3608]

People believed Near bcs L said the same thing and the 13 days rule was proved wrong. But in case of L he just had a gut feeling and no proof . That's why people supported the decision.

[@jordangoat6650]

Towards the end of part 2 there were way more reasons to believe that Light was Kira. Every incidents in Part 2 where the information is exclusive to the Task Force is automatically known by Kira. It's not hard for the Task Force to beginning to doubt their own members. And they didn't believe Near at first even though it was obvious, it took Aizawa way way longer than it should for him to start giving Near information.

[@tkn9979]

I think the deathnote community wouldn’t have disliked near if the writers originally portrayed him as one of L’s sons.

[@satella1620]

it would imply L could get laid tho

[@ZUnknownFox]

I would still hate Near not because he's like or related to L but because he was poorly written and like the video said "Just pulled answers out of nowhere"

[@BeyondB.]

@@ZUnknownFox in the manga he doesn't do that. He explains actually very well how he got to his conclusions. But aside that I still think Near has a strong so called sixth sense for stuff. People just don't understand that cause that's not logical enough to them. At least I agree that Near should have failed at least once before catching kira. That would have humanized him a little bit more. I mean he kinda failed cause his original plan of catching Kira wouldn't have worked if Mello wouldn't have kidnapped Tanaka. And he also has no problems to admit that against Light. That he would have failed without Mellos help. So that's something I really like about Near. He is a very honest character even when he has to confess a mistake made by himself. When it comes to Myers Briggs personality type he is an INTJ type which really explains his behaviour very well. Apart from that I think he could have Asperger's syndrome so that could explain his lack of emotions (on the outside).

[@Vega2004]

@@ZUnknownFox a perfect example of a person who didn't read the manga

[@ZUnknownFox]

@@Vega2004 I had the option but only at my school library and hardly got the chance... also yes I know near explains his conclusions but most seem like just guesses based off of what L had found. I mean he wasn't wrong it's just near was basically copying L's notes and putting them as his own.

[@ivanivanovic5857]

I feel like after L died, they rushed the story until the end. Near came along during that time and became a symbol of the most disappointing story arc in any show ever in my opinion. Plus Near's final trick seemed too much like Deus Ex Machina. "Oh, BTW we perfectly forged an entire book with tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of names in it. Checkmate bro." as if that's even a slightly realistic solution.

[@6rounds914]

end is bullshit because of author. he just wanted Light to die so bad. Mikami could just have a death note paper with him all the time to kill near.

[@trt0049]

I know im late on this, but whenever I want to watch death note I watch until the episode L dies and I'll be done with it. Everything is rushed, near pulls tricks out of his ass to find clues and the ending omfg the ending. They pulled the classic Let's only explain shit in the ending so that a character THAT THE AUTHOR FINDS BIAS AND WANTS TO WIN to be like "BUT WAIT" and expose details that had NO PREVIOUS MENTION. Rick and morty season 4 did a great episode on this shit and this is why I stopped considering death note as a masterpiece. There was literally hundreds of possibilities. > Light's investigating team finally understands that the current justice system fucking sucks and shoots near and their 4 members. > Light fucks off and hides somewhere killing his members and forms a terrorist hacker organization that kills criminals. > mikami goes, "oh shit that didn't work, runs back to cover and writes their names in a separate piece of paper he kept hidden like ANY OTHER SANE PERSON WOULD DO > Matsuda finally shows his colors and accepts kira shoting the members and giving time for Light to run away and write the names on his piece of paper. My point is, you give me a story about a guy that wants to change the world with an evil notebook you think I'm going to root for the good guys? They could have literally made an epic story with over 300 episodes with new agencies trying to catch the guy and new methods of spying being used and slowly witnessing the world become a peacefull place and people admiring this kid as a god. yeah we know this, but we don't see much of it, only rushed pieces. FUCK ME MAN WHAT A WASTE THIS ANIME IS STILL LOOKED UP TODAY AS THE LITERAL GATEKEEPER OF ANIME AND YOU RUINED IT!!!!! *cough cough* . It has a little something for everyone 10/10.

[@carlweathers5714]

Yeah, forging the book was complete bs!

[@Jandeded]

He aslo found the exact paper

[@obamashand4911]

Well, Mikami only had the notebook for a few months, and he wrote a page every day, so I mean it wasn’t more than 200 pages

[@TheSwordfish009]

I never had a problem with Near. The only thing I would've added was have Near experience some sort of serious personal sacrifice for the case like L experienced.

[@rebeccamartinez5886]

Yeah, tbh I felt like the battle between Light and Near wasn't as compelling because Near always played it safe, unlike L who took more of a risk. It was smart on Near's part, but less interesting to watch, because what would Near be losing if he lost? His pride? It would've been more interesting if he and Mello actually had a relationship with each other, so his death could've actually impacted him. But Mello's death was a plot device, not an actual emotional affair (well, emotional for the hardcore Mello fans, but he wasn't around long enough for many to get attached to him).

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Our Ciel Playing it safe was the only way to beat Light at that moment (plus having someone else that did the OPPOSITE of playing it safe) L made no real mistakes in his investigation, the only thing he could have done differently was not show his face, and that’s what Near did

[@stapler942]

I feel like Near's biggest loss was having most of his task force die at once at the hands of Mello. It was his decision to leave Light's team to their own devices for the hostage trade and he probably anticipated that a lot of lives would be lost as a result. But though even he seems quite atypical in his reaction, I imagine that doesn't fully prevent him from feeling remorse. I think he'd blame Mello, Light, and himself equally for that. But he was committed to being as stoic as possible to show Kira that he means business.

[@xum0007]

especially mello he literally died for the case

[@xum0007]

well L did too

[@oliveranderson928]

Personally, I think viewing Near and Mello as rivals to Light alone is a problem. Both characters have their strengths and flaws, but those aren't really challenged with Light. Neither of them have a personal interest in him, and vice versa. I think it's better to think of them as supporting characters. I think L's biggest weakness is that he had so few devoted allies in the investigation. Light had Misa and, by association, Rem on his side, and Misa was willing to do basically whatever he said without question. L's strongest supporter was probably Soichiro. He was the one who would support decisions made by him that others opposed. However, he also had more reason than anyone to not want L to be right about Light being Kira, so that's a huge problem. L didn't have anyone he could use, so to speak, in the same way that Light did. In contrast, Light's weakness is that he absolutely will lose if he dies. He has people who worship him, sure, and Misa's infatuated with him, but that only lasts as long as he's alive. Once he's dead, Kira dies with him. As far as he knows, he can't continue spreading his very specific brand of justice if L beats him. L, on the other hand, was able to win despite dying, as long as we look at Near and Mello as proxies rather than replacements. L is referenced throughout the second part of the show, and the only reason Mello and Near are going after Kira at all is essentially because of L. Near lacks motivation and initiative. He's more dependent than L ever was (he can't even go on a plane alone), so he'd never really go after Kira on his own. Even in the end, he only takes cases that interest him because that's what L did, not because it's what he would do if he was left on his own. Mello wants to catch Kira because he wants to prove he's better than Near, and his rivalry with Near stems from the fact that they were both potential successors to L. Mello doesn't really care about Kira all that much. He just wants to be the better successor. They're both only doing this because of their connection to L. What I'm getting at here is that Near and Mello are just two more weapons of L's to use against Kira. Light thought he'd win as long as he killed L, but he didn't know that L had people lined up to take over for him if he lost. He didn't consider that possibility, even when L suggested Light take over for him if he died. He basically told Light that someone would need to take over, but he assumed that wasn't already taken care of ahead of time. I think that's why Near and Mello both have L-ish qualities. They're supposed to be extensions of him, doing what he can't do anymore. This is also why neither Near or Mello get much screen time, development, or interactions with Light. This is still a battle between Light and L, and their rivalry is still the focus. If Near and Mello were the focus in any way, they'd get a lot more characterization. As it is, they're about as important as any members of the task force. At least they got better than Ukita or Ide did. I'd put them at about the same level as Aizawa, because Aizawa doesn't have as much of a personal interest in Light as some other task force members (specifically Soichiro and Matsuda). Since Light's the focus, we view all the characters in terms of how they relate to him. Near and Mello aren't as important as L, so they don't get as much focus. However, it's a mistake to try and totally separate them from L. Doing so is, I think, part of why Light lost. Had he taken them more seriously, he might've won. He dismissed them as inferior copycats. Since he's the protagonist, it makes sense that they'd be portrayed as such. We aren't meant to understand them or relate to them in the same way we do L. I probably repeated myself more than necessary, and this is just my interpretation. Near and Mello could've been stronger characters for sure, but I don't think that was the point. You couldn't ever replace L. He's one of a kind, so why bother trying? I agree that the interactions between Light and L are missed in the second part, but I also think that's why it's shorter than the first half. It knows it's not gonna be as fun to watch, so it breezes through all the details and only shows you what's necessary to understand the events that happen rather than wasting time getting to know Near and Mello on a deeper level. Or maybe it really is bad writing and I've just convinced myself of this to justify it, but really, who cares if it's true or not? We're all just theorists here in our own right, and I think it's fine to view things how you want. So, obviously you don't have to agree with my interpretation. I just wanted to share it because discussion is fun.

[@aakanshakar4960]

I love this interpretation! Great stuff!

[@muddlewait8844]

This is great! I think this is the core of the case Death Note makes: people need causes other than their individual lives, because all humans, without exception, will eventually die. Kira could've lived forever if Light had been working for that... but that wasn't really what Light wanted.

[@SerialDesignationJ.]

That’s a lot How do you read again

[@anupregmi6400]

Exactly. These anime producers and writers, they create series so we can come up with our own interpretation and that is what makes a show interesting. How I view this show is kind of similar to how you interpreted it. Mello and specially N never needed a character development. As Light too mentioned that all this time he was still locked in L’s chain. The whole point for Light was to not die and whole point of L was to catch Kira (didn’t matter if he lived or died) and prove justice prevails over evil. A general picture of Lights and Ls fate can be generated in first few episodes. Ryuk mentions in episode 1 that he would write Lights name when his time comes to an end. This meant that Light would die in the end. As for L, revealing his identity to task force (whom he suspected that Kira is most likely related to) was a hint that he would die. Whole point of his sacrifice was to gather enough evidence that Light was Kira.

[@florakettle]

This makes me sad, poor L, I also love all characters You did a great job of explaining this all

[@TheRabbitPoet]

He's more enjoyable in the manga, the anime skips a lot of important part of the third arc

[@manuelbonelli3690]

Yes. That's the main problem.... However u can't considere only one of them. U have to considered both and due to his poor character in the anima Near is a mediocre character ( only because in the manga he is better, otherwise he would have been almost a disaster)

[@AmicusAdastra]

For myself i alway loved Near, Then i readed the manga and i realised that the main problem with Near is that the anime messed up the pacing and only gave him 10 episodes whereas he was in half of the manga and that meant he had more time to be fleshed out and more distinguished from L. Near wasn't the problem, the pacing of the show was.

[@evilink12_again47]

I miss L he was and still is my favorite character even though he is gone

[@emily.a8724]

Same

[@mazeemadaline3091]

I like Near still tho. I think in the manga it was longer with more mind games. People hated Near in the beginning. That's why the anime was cut short.

[@imaginarycloud2075]

REIGN OFFICIALCHANNEL it was?

[@Random_Geek_J]

What do you mean the anime was cut short?

[@GK-ut9nc]

@@Random_Geek_J yes, they cut about a half of the second part, if you take a look in the manga, you will see that the thinking process of near was much more than L's

[@CDodger24]

i like the scenes when he's playing with toys. it's really funny to me specially when he squished the kira rubber toy😂😂

[@CassidyShadewing]

@@GK-ut9nc that would make sense, I always felt that the anime seemed rushed.

[@kelseyk.631]

I have to say, despite the mediocrity of the TV drama at times, they did the rivalry between Near and Light a lot better than the anime. They introduced Near in either the first or second episode, had him interact with both L and Light in person, made him a lot quirkier by giving him multiple personality disorder (kind of solving the problem with Mello's lack of presence), and had him actually take part in the Yotsuba arc in Coil's place. I was hesitant with the multiple personality angle at first, but it ultimately made the character much more interesting. Basically, Near is great if actually given time to develop.

[@duoreview7492]

I actually agree with this 100% =D

[@Obesno0]

It's been way too long since I watched the drama. But I remember liking what they did with all the characters on that show. Character interactions was definitely it's strong point

[@chase9020]

What's the drama called?

[@kelseyk.631]

If you just search "Death Note TV Drama" on KZbin, you'll find it. The videos aren't great quality, but it has the whole series. I think Crunchyroll also has it.

[@danyalshamsi1161]

And anyone remember how Light and Kiyomi used the notepads in the hotel to converse, while they had brought a notepad for replacing the one they used? I mean wtf, why not use the notepad you brought with yourself and take it back? They use the hotel's notepad and replace it with the one they brought. -_-

[@small_dropin_the_big_ocean995]

I really didn't understand why tf he would do such a stupid thing? 😂

[@pillowboy7995]

Because he didn't care since he knows it's not enough evidence to convict him if you read the manga light even knows what aizawa did with the notepads and doesn't give a shit

[@flyingfireballmaster1816]

The hotel staff was replacing the pads, not them.

[@kimberlyrosehill6424]

Yeah when he found out that Mikami was X Kira was really forced

[@duoreview7492]

Yeah, I agree.

[@blizzyyt2281]

Kimmie does Nightcore it was much better in the manga I think

[@christiancrusader9374]

They did explain it though(briefly, but it counts.) near picked mikimi because he was connected to takada, who was kira's spokesperson. Also he only suspected mikimi until he killed the guy on the subway.

[@Kimi-xp2th]

no it wasn't.

[@yw5617]

That was given more time in the manga, it could have been a little better in both mediums.

[@eljacobo4832]

He just uses his head, doesn't let his emotions get in the way.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

He HAS no emotions lol

[@vanillarice6163]

Near just magically knows that Light is Kira whilst L actually thinks.

[@tylersoexclusive713]

Near studied on the Kira case 5 years before getting on it. L was also his mentor. L had never been wrong before and honestly how do you expect a genius like Light to be working on the Kira case for 5+ years and have NO success, but when light and L were working on it they brought down Kira within a month. (The Kira light had to kill in order to obtain ownership of the death note again.) Near knew light was sketch from the jump

[@bradyward2177]

I mean there's the entire 5 year gap after Ls death that he studied the case plus he knew L believed light was Kira which is a pretty huge lead for him to go off of. It's not magic it's just working off what L already had

[@AkiraHisyamHobbiezz]

your statement is bullshit. after L death there time gap during that time gap near in ivestigation bout kira...it just doesnt show in anime and manga.

[@Trashy_3-qr7cq]

Stop hating my boy near

[@amaramoon7025]

L laid the foundation for the case. He also suspected that light was kira... Without L's help Near couldn't have solved the case...Mello helped him too.... L literally solved the case if it wasn't for godly powers he could've completely solved it without dying.....

[@larrysoutherland6599]

yea i would also call bs on how he came to the conclusion itwas almost like he has psycic powers he pissed me off so much

[@duoreview7492]

Pretty much. XD

[@Riskofrain527]

Watch nato's video on near. He gave near the praise he deserves. The most underrated character in death and that's only because L fans are mad that near and mello beat light and not L and light fanboys are mad because near and mello beat light.

[@refinedwrath9030]

@• Maria • the manga won't fix the bullshit ending

[@wifisamust4916]

@@Riskofrain527 i liek ur username

[@wammygames7627]

When he figure out Mikami was X Kira his eyes was glowing so maybe he is not human?

[@jakesampson2244]

It pisses me off how Near was the one who defeated Light

[@nihilsnake4017]

I would’ve preferred L to beat him at least, or even Mello tbh

[@oro8954]

Why? He's a great char

[@violenciarivas7797]

@@nihilsnake4017 i'd rather L defeat Light but L dying in the end as a sacrifice or smth like that

[@light2666]

Worst part is everyone forgets light could have just asked any country to send soldiers and execute everyone in the room except light instead of that plan...

[@ROCKSTAR3291]

True. L was the only one who deserved to beat Light... It was such a bad way to kill Light too. He should've died because he realized his vision for the world failed, he had no purpose in life and asked Ryuk to end his life with the Death Note... Or something like that.. Instead Light died because he got shot lol, really ?

[@luiswi]

For me, the biggest problem was that when L died, the entire plot ended, the main (and pretty much only) antagonist/ threat to kira was gone. When near and mello were introduced, a whole new story began that was in almost no way tied to the previous one.

[@kalb1ss1blak21]

Mellow was a more interesting character than near

[@kimmson6356]

Agree it would be better if mello was replaced by near.

[@mvlpa]

@@kimmson6356 nah nears better

[@kimmson6356]

@@mvlpa No

[@0nikolaigogol0]

Agreed

[@amaramoon7025]

Agreed

[@redraven2823]

L: *Dies* Light: i win Near: allow me to introduce myself

[@houseofmatrix6174]

Plot armor: allow me to introduce myself

[@rottendoll606]

His first mistake was to replace L His second mistake was to kill Light

[@King-mz8xe]

I mean Light is kinda of a psychopath but not really tho

[@nightlockerz1165]

@@King-mz8xe he's a sociopath

[@King-mz8xe]

@@nightlockerz1165 sociopath fits him more yeah

[@quandaledingle3739]

preach

[@DukeEllision329]

CX부서진 he didn’t kill light lol

[@aliceinthewired]

Manga Near > Anime Near

[@spicymilkshake6600]

Lord Krius i keep hearing people say that and since i only watch the anime and already love Near it makes ne really wanna read the manga.

[@duoreview7492]

It's true.

[@aliceinthewired]

@@spicymilkshake6600 There are many other reasons to read the Manga other than Near's superior portrayal. Without giving too much away I can say that Near's deductions in the Manga are more fleshed out and well reasoned, his worldview and personality traits receive more development and his conflict with Light and Mello are also more fleshed out.

[@uncomfortablecat]

Thank you

[@Bloooo95]

THIS.

[@Bruh-og7mh]

I think the main problem with near's characters are : -Outside his investigation and deducing, he still acts like a robot - most of the fandoms hate Near because they're shadowed by L's death moment, which is really heartbreaking for most of the fandom - different from L, Near really didn't take any risk again Light. he played it really really safely. He didn't even want to go face to face againts Light, beside if he really needs it ( That's why there'sonly just a few psychological battle between them ) -Near has a team, but most of the police and agents are againts L. - everything feels rushed after L's death moment Sry for my bad English

[@AkiraHisyamHobbiezz]

then you better read the manga...the manga explained alot...in anime they cut alot of manga part for example in anime only near can see and talk with ryuk while in manga it showed that all member in near task force can see ryuk they just act like they dont see ryuk.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

That was pretty much the only way to beat Light after L couldn’t do it, play it really safe and have a decoy who would play it really risk and force Light or one of his underlings into a mistake

[@user-ot4hj2rk1d]

Near was created to pull a Lelouch on the fans. He was created to unite L and Light fans and distract them from L's death. He was used as a plot device to end Light without tarnishing much of his reputation.

[@lunali7209]

L ! yeah and he got a lot of hate for that :/ just bc the write didnt want neither L nor light to win over the other and did this shortcut. i still love near tho

[@lokijoker1878]

There is a canon AU where L wins and writes his name in the death note for some reason (I haven't seen the movie or read the book so idk). It's called L Change the World.

[@hankp5497]

I would love to see an alternate ending where Light wins

[@leehanishrak8999]

I know This is 10 months old and you probably don't care but... There is an alternative ending where Light goes to L's funeral And "becomes a god of the new world" When Suddenly Ryuk writes Light's name in his death book and kills him, Because It would be boring sticking around with not anymore action. Just search up light at L's funeral On KZbin

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

If Light wins, Ryuk would have killed him anyway, it was no longer interesting

[@icyycold1094]

It would have been boring and terrible.

[@kchannel5317]

The thing I like about Near is his creative ability to explain what he's thinking. Which is interesting because you can definitely see the problem in his thought process. Light was right at the end when he mentioned L would have tested the Notebook.

[@ruethefox]

Near was basically the student that did the last 5% of the project with his friend and claims to have done the same if not more than the guy who did the other 95%.

[@mazelovesosa]

Rue the Fox OMG I CAN’T-😭💀

[@omigawdd]

There's no doubt that Light is my favorite. With that being said, I actually really did appreciate L as a character. When Light seemed somewhat offended that Near put himself on the same level as L just hit home for me.

[@jollymayonnaise]

Yes, I agree !!! This !

[@imsorry.iwillrespectyou.9402]

Ryuk: I might be useless. but evreyone loves me more than Near or mello

[@sbudke8607]

Is it just me though or do I actually like both near and L near is basically in a way either a mini version of L himself or L’s son

[@sakhtladka3615]

Me also

[@owlflame]

I still really like him. I see it more as a self destruction from light's part that Near capitalizes on. Since Light is a flawed human being regardless.

[@kiangamingphuy5682]

Near was just a plot device, I feel like the author didn’t want either L and Light to win because it would ruin the fandom and lose people’s interest if one of them wins. Regardless I never felt satisfied with the end. Light needed to die cause he was flawed and had a god complex but didn’t like how the ending was rushed.

[@owlflame]

@@kiangamingphuy5682 imagine someone being a villain for half a story and then think they’re “just a plot device.”

[@kiangamingphuy5682]

owlflame yes half of the series that was just completely rushed and too forced. Near felt incomplete and didn’t take huge risks and was caustious and made it less interesting for entertainment wise

[@kiangamingphuy5682]

And it’s only reasonable calling him a plot device knowing the anime is ending and the author looks like he needed to extend the anime so that the fandom could feel satisfied with Light’s death. I don’t see Near having a perspective that he could capitalize on Light’s arrogance knowing he himself is also human. And he already had information from L’s investigation segment so could be that Near didn’t capitalize on Light’s arrogance but how he could trap him

[@owlflame]

@@kiangamingphuy5682 it just doesn’t feel rushed to me. It feels like we got the exact character the story needed to make the last points of the manga.

[@gouthamy6271]

Did people forget the fact that there were many time jumps during Near's succession? And he was 13'ish when he started with the investigation. People are so pissed at toys, that they are forgetting that Mello and Near lost their childhood to the Wammy' house. They were trained to become the best there is, which means they hadn't got any time like a normal child or teen would. Their most life was dedicated to the investigation. It was the writers mistake how they choose to not to reveal Near's progress in the case, in the 3year leap of the story.(If near had any notes from L, or did he have to start from the beginning? Since, Near in anime asked the task force if light was a suspect, I assume that Near had NO insight on the case whatsoever before or after L died. He had to start everything from the scratch. Also, assuming that L is the main character, writers decided to let him live even after he died in the actions of Near, thus creating a character that reminded the viewers of L. Near is not supposed to be L, but it certainly shows that every Wammy house student has certain quirks, given their reputation.

[@roshanrai3706]

Near is terminator who came from another world to kill Light he knows everything about Light because he had already watch death note in another world

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

Wait a minute duo.. I was pretty sure N and M were both suppose to be L. N was suppose to be fully logical with no emotion in the way he thinks and everyone is his pawn. N was suppose to be shown why being 100% logical would lose, and with M it was to show why being Emotional would lose as well. The reason why L was better was because he had a mixture of Logical and Emotional, but if you put N and M together was suppose to surpass L. M showed chaotic nature and emotional motives will give an answer. It was a battle of Ideal's between M and N, but it wasn't until M admitted defeat because he figured out that being very emotional isn't enough, he needed N's emotionlessness to figure it out as well. Near had a fatal flaw, but that was literally what the story was trying to portray that neither N or M is correct, but a balance between them is needed. L was great because he had a balance between them and a good understanding, but he wavered with how attached he grew to Light. Overtime Light could not only predict L, but predict what he will say, do, or think. Literally everything about him. It was an ideological battle through and through. It was suppose to show that N and M both admitted they couldn't do it alone, but together they could beat L. Separate, N had more logical thinking, and deductive reasoning than L, but L had better emotional reading and a better grounded determination on human emotion and how people will act. M had a better emotional thinking than L, but a much less logical thinking than L. That is how both could beat kira (or at least what it was trying to portray).

[@duoreview7492]

The issue is that while trying to portray this ideal, they ruined a lot of the brilliant writing and fun character interactions that made the show interesting. It's great and all to showcase the difference in approach and ideals between Near and Mello, but not at the sacrifice of the quality character writing. Near was not written nearly as well as L, and Mello wasn't written as well either. Two badly written characters do not equal one really well written character.

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

Yeah, I mean, it was more ideological battle, I think it should have been the other way around, Kira beats both N and M, and L comes who is a mixture of both who refused to work together. I don't think the show properly conveyed it, but I think this was the real "problem" with N.

[@randysavage2585]

The Unknown Otaku Not quite. Being 100% logical is always a pro in an investigation. If Near was 100% logical, then he would have Light and Mikami killed and take the notebook by force like he suggested in one episode, but he didn’t because that’s not how L and Near do things. The real flaw with Near was that he didn’t really take risks (mostly because Mello would do that, so it was unnecessary for him) until his final plan.

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

They weren't in episode 1, and they were doing it within the confines of the law. If they broke the law, then Kira's ideology wins, because Kira says to make the world a better place you have to take the law into your own hands and punish those who are a detriment on society, because if you look at the end he was going to start killing people who were Poor, or people who live at home and don't have jobs. It is still an ideological battle, and if they did that to Light and Mikami, then Kira still wins ideologically. He was showing the law works perfectly. M went and broke the law, so technically it wasn't N breaking his ideals, but it was a cop out. N found all the information he needed while following the law (or at least what the law was before kira popped up). N was saying The Law is justice, and Kira wasn't.

[@InternetNonsense]

If that's the main idea, they could've put N and M in the first half and make them lose separately to show you cannot succeed with either action and emotion or logic and coldness alone, you need them both. So a mixture of action and logic aka L wins and prevails through trial and error in the second half, guess his only weakness he let his guard down as he considered Light to be his first friend. I don't know how that would work, but now Mello just looks like a test rat for Near to be a Mary Sue always with the right answers pulled straight from reading the script in advance and making no mistakes as Mello does everything dangerous and dies for that to happen. Which is sad because I like all these characters and it feels Mello and Near got no justice and seem bland. And that weakens second half and the ending, you don't want them to win because it's kinda forced.

[@JR-es5cd]

Near got screwed over by the anime do to L’s death happening 3/4’s of the way through the show while in the manga he died at roughly the halfway point allowing Near and Mellow to be much more fleshed out.

[@ianadams7692]

"It felt like one guy was handed the test answers while another guy was so confident he'd pass that he didnt study." I have NEVER heard a better summary of the Deathnotes ending. 10/10, Subbed

[@aarohalme1020]

"Life without light would be dark" xD

[@kyo9949]

Misa-“I can’t live in a world without light” she says in lovey dovey voice My love L-“Yes that would be dark” says in his usual monotone. Me-*chokes on my water trying not to laugh XD*

[@itz_rubyflare6052]

World without l is just a word

[@bodziinuh5561]

I've read this sentence for a while I don't know what it means 😭

[@thenerdaceandexecutron8099]

Honestly, both Near and Mello are handled better in the Manga. Even if I enjoy them in the anime

[@erikpate8370]

I honestly like Near, I don’t know why people have so much disdain for his character. In the manga he has a much longer arch and gets much more character development.

[@dafoftheendless]

i enjoyed him i knew he wasn't even close to L in intellect but i thought he was an interesting character if he was given more time to shine

[@jasonbourne9884]

Near is really trash character. first he thought he's just like L which is ridiculous. second he didnt defeat light all by himself. L and mello had major role in the invistigation. Also i never got how he magically found answers.

[@manuelbonelli3690]

Because most people didn't read the manga and just watched the anime. In the anime he is a shitty character who gets conclusion without explanation just like he already knew it. 2 people would have liked more to see Light being outplayed not dying because his servant made a stupid mistake that's even Misa wouldn't have done

[@darkcat6530]

@@jasonbourne9884 bruh did u even watch the anime and near litterally says by himself that he wouldn't have defeated light without the help of near or mello

[@ricksanchez571]

@@jasonbourne9884 he magically found answer? Wut? Can you tell me when he did that? And for your kind information NATE RIVER said in last episode.... "thanks to mello, this is all because of him." Near admitted that because of mello, he was able to know that there is a fake notebook there.

[@jackloughridge7617]

The only thing that really bugs me is the fact that the task force didn't figure out that light was kira after L died. L explained exactly what he thought lights plan was as kira (give someone else the notebook, lose memory...) and the only thing contradicting the theory is the 13 day rule. When L tries to test that rule he immediately dies and insead of arresting light or at least suspecting him they make him the head of the kira investigation.

[@J91Y]

the task force didnt beleive in testing out the death note to begin with

[@tiktac7320]

1.Light was always overconfident,that's how L found him. 2.Near is not a copy of L,L had no problem with getting his hands dirty,while Near always stuck to his principles.He didnt lie,he didnt use force. 3.Just like you said,Near got a lot less screen time then L,so its obvious that we wont like him as much 4.Light vs Near was never a thing,it was always Near and Mello vs Light,the ending proves it.

[@pusheenosaurous3284]

Him and Mello needed more screen time.

[@meli6882]

I have heard this great theory that Near and Mello were the two different sides of L's character. We know L as an insanely smart and logical person who, for the most part, doesn't care a lot about people. We also know him as a boy who loves to win, who desires to solve Kira's case not only for the sake of justice but also as his highest personal achievement. This is exactly why the anime makes a point of repeating that Near and Mello were nowhere near L separately, but managed to exceed him when together. The human part of L, the flawed part, is represented by Mello, who is impulsive and rash and uses his intellect for the sole reason of being the best. The cold, intellectual part of L is represented by Near, who is almost robotic in his charactirization. This theory explains why Near was able to beat Kira when L wasn't; he was, essentially, L without his flawed human qualities. This isn't lazy writing; I think it's brilliant writing.

[@labhanshibhathar3043]

Woah this makes so much more sense.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

You’ve nailed it. That’s what it took, a complete lack of emotions to refuse to play Lights game and win anyway

[@N2xedMoney]

What I like about Near is that he shits on everybody’s opinion. Everyone says he‘s a lesser L, even Light said it. Near doesn’t care that everyone is salty, because he caught Light and L didn’t. Unlike L, Near didn‘t want no rivalry with Kira. To him Light is just a serial killer, and his job was to catch him, and that‘s what he did. Everyone can hate Near and compare him to L, but he doesn’t give the slightest fuck, and because of that I think Near is cool.

[@eyralamol8918]

Excactly

[@jessetheanimenerd3304]

It's for that reason that I love Near

[@earthorbit7775]

N2xedMoney that’s true I liked near. But L is definitely better intellectually and socially. L is such a more interesting and better character. Near didn’t get much screen time tho.

[@sage416]

fr

[@matthewlarios.]

L: world renowned detective Near: plays with toys “s m a r t”

[@memroli5919]

Light: Will you listen to me!? Im not Kira! Near: I knew you'd say that, so basically you ARE kira

[@Jill_of_trades]

L at the end: "I saw you at the end of my life; we come full circle."

[@oliviavalentino3014]

Let’s face it: We all miss L 😔

[@uncomfortablecat]

In my Opinion:- L - 9.5/10 Light - 9/10 Near - 9/10

[@kyo9949]

My opinion Light 8/10 Near 6/10 Misa 3/10 Mello 7/10 L Lawliet 100000000000000000 (infinity times more)/10

[@uncomfortablecat]

@@kyo9949 Hahahahaha. I can understand your feeling.

[@MrJinxmaster1]

Kira 10/10 until Near arrives at which point 8-9/10 due to multiple stupid mistakes and cockiness even after he's foiled repeatedly by Nello and Near L 9.42/10 Near 5/10 (Bland motivations and not enough screen-time to justify successes) Mikami 4/10 (just a stupid version of Light) Mello 6/10 (could be higher with more screen-time but he has more interesting methods and motivations)

[@BDtetra]

Geovanni 11/10 he's the strongest character

[@bilalsadain]

L - 10 Light - 10 Near - 5

[@richboi6685]

Light: *Makes call* President: Yes- Light: Detain and kill all members of SPK and a kid named Mello President: Okay THE END!!!

[@AyeK3y]

Near was so straight to the point because he studied L’s investigative findings on Kira and connected the dots

[@ARKHAM367]

DuoReview I thought the exact same things my first couple times watching the anime. Until I came across a video done by Kato called The Importance of Near. Near's role in the story is to illustrate that he isn't as good as L, but he is enough to beat Light because light isn't a god. Rather a crazy serial killer, with the most powerful instrument of mass murder in history. He isn't as smart as L but instead he put emphasis on the death note, not light. That was L's critical mistake. From the start he was more interested with Kira the person, not the way he kills. That's why he confronts him personally on a live broadcast, and why he greets him face to face. Knowing that the only way Light's Kira can kill, is with a face and name. L wanted to know more about Kira, Near wanted to know more about the Death Note. After I saw Kato's video I instantly fell in love with Near from a character analysis perspective. Link to Kato's Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3-Xl3WPmpenoNk&index=2&list=PLJBRYLKh6-AHvWAuZoPl3edDKcRq2LmRW

[@ste8lthy112]

Exactly

[@christowers7307]

Wow, I never thought of it that way. That actually makes a lot of sense

[@luxersmultiverse5379]

@@RedxRiot I disagree with that video . Near shows critical thinking

[@bearseatchips5271]

2:26 Thing we see with L is him stacking sugar and eating foods with lots of sugar this doesn't have a meaning anything but near when near does something like play with toys it has a meaning like when he makes a giant structure, and it falls over meaning he was incorrect near shows his toys to explain what Hes thinking

[@brandonflores2995]

Finally someone else realized that Mello and Near are the two halves of L! Mello has L's emotions and his "hastiness" to do things (such as kidnapping the reporter and sacrificing himself.) a big clue to this was also the chocolates that he ate. That's all he really ate just like L did with all that suger he consumed. Near has L's calmer, OCD side with the way he was more patient and building things like the way L did with his creamer cups while he was thinking. I believe the author "split L up" into two because it was evidently a "draw" between Light and L. (let's be real, Light won because of the shinigami manipulation). With them split up, Light's overconfidence and dismissal of Mello had him slip up. His overconfidence is the reason why, I think, Near finds stuff so easily. I do agree Near and Mello should have been developed further. It was too rushed. Really enjoying you content!

[@igorfogolin3788]

the problem with near is the anime dont portrait all the second part in the manga, which causes this feeling of near get the awnsers from the sky, in the manga the second part is way more detailed

[@TheShadowharleyninja]

Poor Near. I feel like he deserved better cuz he has an amazing character design and a good... Anime character brain(?) And idk. He just deserved better. I honestly enjoyed his character mainly cuz i was mad at Light and depressed over L's death and then Near came and was like" dont worry weirdo i will make sure that L wins in the end and Light will die and i will remind you of your dead best boi and i will be second on the list of best bois" i just sat there like," yes."

[@SaiScribbles]

Maybe its because I've read the manga more times than watching the anime, but Near seems to come to life when he's one-upped Light. He really seems to take an almost sadistic delight in "winning". That made him pretty interesting to me and seemed to contrast him to L. I like Near alot... but for real I still know the only reason Near and Mello are in the story is because the writer wrote himself into a corner and couldn't really go anywhere else but killing L. I may also like Near alot because I vastly prefer the manga's ending to the anime's.

[@duoreview7492]

That's fair.

[@Bloooo95]

Yeah, I agree. I wish the anime was two seasons, one season for L and the other for Near and Mello. Near and Mello got about the same amount of time as L did in the manga (7.5 volumes to 6.5 volumes), whereas in the anime, L got 26 chapters and Mello/Near got 11.

[@knowledgeseeker9688]

I liked near alot to be honest for he was mysterious.

[@NapoleonAquila]

A sasuke

[@kyluvsrikaya]

i like near hes cute

[@astralofy]

Right

[@0nikolaigogol0]

I kinda hate Near

[@longviewwd1]

L was mysterious Near was underdeveloped

[@HighLight43]

Most of these "problems" come from not reading the manga. The anime completely botched the second part of the story... But Near really shines in the manga. His only real problem is people being too attached to L to be willing to appreciate him. He's deeper and more complex than most people realize.

[@anvez_4188]

This u said no lies. People just to attach to L thats why they hate Near

[@SirLuckySlime]

When talking about his character in the anime, I don't think the manga needs to be considered. Same story, two different ways of telling it. We're focusing on the issues with the way they told it in the anime. (Or at least most)

[@nickdrill2075]

I actually really like Near. He gets no love just because he isn’t like L.

[@corvus196]

I'm not even gonna try to argue. Did u even watch the video L is 100x better. Rewatch the video then u should know why. U can still like em tho. It's Ur opinion

[@csapomate7372]

He gets no love because he didnt have enough screentime and he wasnt inteteresting

[@IlyTranq]

Who would win? L: the best detective in the world, who’s opinion on cases is valued and highly respected. And is almost never wrong Light: literally some guy

[@reflesh8802]

L is my favorite character in all of anime but light isnt just some guy, hes the smartest person in japan

[@lolwtf1338]

Yeah literally some guy who's top of his class in Japan and has a fucking notebook that could instantly kill people by having their names written. That's some guy right there.

[@koreancowboy42]

L shouldve been the one to beat Light. L was the one spending more time interacting and investigating Light as well as debunking and making speculations and so on forth literally all L needed was legit proof to expose Light.

[@colgate1602]

I don't think near had any problem , everyone just hates him for no reason. I do neither hate him nor I like him . And that's the case with everyone, it's because L was so cool that we can not like any character except him and never the character who is his replacement . I think we may like near in new season

[@redactedxx4219]

The Near hate is not really deserved. The pacing of the show really cut off a lot of his character. I mean I felt like the whole arc with Light giving the Deathnote to the corporation group was way too long and Near too short. Also the original designs had Mello and Near's looks reversed, which would have been awesome because Near wouldn't be as much of an L copy. L's real problem was I generally think he didn't want Light to be Kira because he found a connection to him. Mello got things done and didn't hesitate and Near didn't have the emotional attachment. When L died I think people ( including myself) wanted a Sherlock Holmes style rebirth where L came back somehow. Well he did. At least with his students. No one mentions Matt but all three students solved the case. That was L's legacy.

[@rushingwater2.0]

Matt really got the short end of the stick here Man was in the anime for like 5 minutes

[@ProblematicLovers]

You know, I've been a fan of Death Note since I was 8, but I never even thought about how the second act lacked most the rival internal monologues. It almost changes the genre in a way and I think that's another thing that throws people off. I actually somewhat like that Near is shown as blank and empty. In a lot of true crime cases, the psychology behind the people involved becomes glorified as people try to scramble for a "why" for what happened (at least that's my experience). Not showing Near's thought process keeps us from doing that, and while in a meta perspective it not only leaves the reader theorising what the end was and brings discussion, but also places us in the Task Force's position. We got the process, but they didn't, so they were uneasy when it came to inplementing L's tactics. We get to experience all the shock and distrust the Task Force felt in being lost and inferior intellectially, feeling like answers are coming out of thin air and being uoset that we don't get it. In universe, it lines up with Near not wanting to be known or seen by outsiders. After taking L's title, he continues to be a recluse and colder than L was when it comes to picking up cases. He doesn't care about the notoriety or status of L, he is just doing what he was literally created to do. For L it was fun and games, a hobby that entertained him, but to Near it's just the inevitable burden he must take up and there is no pride in it. No one cared about his thoughts or feelings before, why care now? It's natural for him to keep to himself, prattle off some answers without any context, and leave people baffled without bothering to explain further. Also, it could accent trauma he's endured at The Wammy House, since he was raised to be a successor with no options for personal fulfilment. He's had his whole identity given to him and shoved down his throat and the fact he's even alive at all says something given previous L sucessors (A commited suicide and B became a serial killer). His isolation comes off less as a quirk of a cold personality and more neglect and trauma (as possibly neurodivergency but thats on me also being autistic and seeing the socialisation issues). Near never got a chance to be a kid to the point where I've forgotten his age over the years because everything from the Chapter 108 (end of death note) to the 2020 bonus chapter blurs together for me. He's stunted there and can't grow past that developmentally, regardless of his intellect. Ohba also admitted to writing Death Note with no planning prior. He literally just winged it and this was such a shock even Obata thought he was lying. This could be a meta explaination for why the psychology gets dropped, Ohba didn't really think or plan how Ls death or how he was going to replace him in a satisfying way (kinda like how he introduces Naomi Misora and killed her off when he didnt know how to progress fhat threat, or Matt being killed before fans could know what colour his hair was). It was all improvised and I feel like despite the flaws it causes, it feels a little miraculous that Death Note has become such a big series. It was literally an accident.

[@kennethferland5579]

It always felt to me that the author realized they had screwed up by killing L and had to desperately reboot the rival dynamic that was at the center of the show in order to milk it for more issues and not let the villain 'win'.

[@DawnbringerAura]

Same. Light *was* overconfident in the beginning, but I feel like he of all people would’ve learned his lesson after the very first time he was tricked due to his overconfidence; the very trick that narrowed down which country Kira was located in. Even if the logic is there, it feels like the story and characters really bend to put Light in a losing position. How do you go from someone willing to destroy their source of power in order to protect themselves to some dummy who thought putting the death note in a bank was a good idea?!

[@ashleecarrero1466]

Near and Mello were originally meant to be L’s sons but then the writers changed their mind by final presentation but that’s why you see so many similarities in the final presentation. I wish they’d kept that first thought it would of blended the finale better by his linage defeating Kira.

[@nabihanakib8053]

Near just appears out of the blue and knows everything and gets everything perfect. Like what’s the fun in that

[@arathar24l]

For including both Near and Mello, I'd defend that choice by saying that the purpose of Mello was to provide chaos to throw Kira off while Near worked from afar on building a case against him and exposing him. That's why he says at the end that he couldn't have done it without Mello. I will agree however that it's very contrived how he's able to figure everything out easily. I sort of assumed that he was finding out all the stuff he knew about Light being Kira from L's investigation, however the way he was able to figure out "X-Kira", specifically knowing that he was Mikami, and other things was completely hard to believe.

[@Fuuwrld]

Near acts so much like L I really thought L had a twin or got reincarnated

[@idkr.mxntos981]

I DESPISE NEAR AS A CHARACTER AND ALL I WANTED TK DO WAS TO BASH NEARS GODDAMN HEAD IN EVERY SCENE HE IS IN

[@KanSanyara]

Aaah...That Mirai Nikki intro so peaceful and non-violent 😌