Anissa Weier Slender Man Trial Day 1 Detectives Moerman and Casey Testify

Anissa Weier Slender Man Trial Day 1 Detectives Moerman and Casey Testify

[@ewelulu]

Detective Casey, man. Pls write a book one day, sir.

[@margaretlumley1648]

OMG! I just started watching this, after watching Morgan's attempts to get released. I cannot fathom what the heck this lady attorney is trying to achieve. I watch LOTS of trials. I am so glad it's not just me!

[@nataleehulingqhs7252]

Worst defense team ever! I hope her parents didn't pay for this attorney. Can't understand why she would call half of these witnesses in her "defense". And some of the questions she asked seemed more like questions the prosecution would ask. They are probably like, "Gee thanks for doing our job for us. We'll just sit here and watch". She should be calling witnesses that will testify to a childs state of mind, how it wasn't fully developed ect and witnesses that are going to testify to mental state as far as her being crazy. And character witnesses. Why would u call officers and detectives? Weird

[@rimjhimkaraki8070]

Natalee Huling QH's would you like this “young lady” to be friends with your children or be your neighbor? Hypothetically, would you let this “child” babysit your children?🤔

[@amber_Forever16]

@@rimjhimkaraki8070 what does that got to do with anything? Op didn’t say she was innocent, just that the lawyer is incompetent , unprepared and all over the place!!

[@wioi]

I studied law at the Vienna university of law and for me it was obvious why she called them as defense. As the girls mother testified, her twins never told her, that Anissa said that you have to kill a friend, but they testified that in court. Their mother also testified that they didn't tell the counselor BEFORE Morgan and Anissa stabbed Payton, like the girls told the attorney that they did. So the defense called them, because they wanted to show the twin sisters were not truthful but lying. Also I wanted to say that it's funny how you think that you know what a good attorney is or not,have you spent years at university studying law?.. I didn't think so..so why do you think that you know if someone's good at their job, when in fact you have no idea about that job, other than your "youtube law degree". Sorry, that needed to be said.

[@wilsal2485]

@@wioi I think the lawyer is doing well & don't understand how so many think she's bad or can't see what she's doing.

[@Rose-zn5ql]

@@wioi Maura McMahon and Joseph Smith got a very good result for Anissa Weier. She spent 4 years in a mental institution and is now out on release with an ankle monitor and ongoing psychiatric treatment, doctors report that she no longer has a psychotic or delusional disorder.

[@riemmagarback]

She is a TERRIBLE defense attorney!!! 🤦 I'm surprised the judge hasn't told her to get her sh*t together! So unprofessional. Is she being paid by the parents of this child?? 😳

[@inkiehunter8888]

She needs to get to the point if there is one

[@dank00]

You watch too much tv

[@daniellereid6539]

What's driving me nuts is the whispering - not sure from which side.

[@tThisNThat]

paid...no... public defender...more like

[@johnmeleleu1813]

Her lawyer is setting up foundation for later arguments to the jury.

[@sarahlundgren3358]

I have really no clue about courtroom shenanigans but that defense attorney couldn't defend a rock. The whistling in her head on a windy day must be pretty loud

[@margaretlumley1648]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤❤❤

[@GirlyDeadpool]

Is it just me or is she showing her client planned this more than they originally thought ?

[@c.swinford8283]

I get the idea she's trying to say that Anisa was not sane/aware of what was real and what wasn't at the time maybe?

[@alvaroakatico9188]

It’s you.

[@wioi]

It is really just you. In fact they proved that Anissa didn't really tell that girl that "you have to kill a friend to become a proxy" like the twin girls testified, they proved that the girls were lying to the court. As they called their mother on the stand and she said that her daughter told her that Anissa just said that she knew how to become a proxy for slender man but not "the killing of a friend". Also the girls lied that they have told a school counselor before Morgan and Anissa stabbed Payton, the mother testified that they did it after the fact.

[@Hankblue]

@@wioi The fact that she didn't mention killing to her mom is hardly proof of anything

[@margaretlumley1648]

Trust me, Girly Deadpool, it's not you

[@dinam7144]

Thank God my Mother believed me when I was 11,when I said I saw a shadow of a tall man with a hat on in my closet. She comforted me and I slept on the couch until we moved from that house. I knew the rest of my life my Mother would always take me seriously and she did. RIP Mom❤️❤️❤️

[@valtoton2982]

🤗🤗🤗

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

I miss my Mom so much. She just passed a year ago and I’m lost and heartbroken. She too, has been a wonderful Mother to me, I am so blessed to have had her. 🩷🥺 I’m sorry you lost your Mom too. We were lucky. 🩷🩷🩷

[@ms_violet_majesty]

Good ol’ Detective Casey. If this face recently seems familiar think “Darrell Brooks Trial”. Lol

[@ayemf9285]

Someone who has (under any circumstances) looked their friend in the eyes while stabbing them and hearing them scream, isn't going to ever be okay in my opinion. and for that reason, they should be tried as adults.

[@Hashslingingslasherrrrrr]

Sad to say but I agree

[@60toodles]

and what education or certificates do you have to make that psychiatric assessment? Hush before you hurt yourself.

[@amber_Forever16]

That’s why you don’t have any say in these matters, because you think and act with emotions

[@ayemf9285]

@@amber_Forever16 a psychopath wouldn't. And that's what makes them a psychopath. People need harsh consequences for harsh actions.

[@ayemf9285]

@@60toodles did you read the part that says, "in my opinion?"

[@sarahg1583]

Only way to get through this trial - change the speed to 1.50 & then up it to 1.75 - 2.00 when the female defense attorney is speaking

[@alysononoahu8702]

Aah ok...but now chipmunks and sniffling coke head dad

[@MT-lw6yh]

I watch all videos at 2x speed unless i have notes I would like to take. It feels so slow going back

[@buenavista312]

HOW in the world did she ever PASS the bar...???? Horrible defense attorney... unprepared... how did the judge tolerate her...???

[@amber_Forever16]

Omg I just said the same thing!

[@AnnabelleCharrier]

I know! Wtf is she trying to establish? Does she even KNOW who her client is? She is asking questions phrased to elicit that Annisa is worse than Morgan. Why? It's utterly bizarre!

[@tracyweckerly1802]

same! After watching Chandler Halderson's trial and such amazing prosecutors, This was torture. The poor police officer!

[@Mark-Smeaton]

@@tracyweckerly1802 Wow, what a small cyber world. I watched Chandler Halderson's trial too *high five* - lol. Somebody in the comments section there was challenging anyone to come up with a worse defence lawyer than Chandler's and somebody replied, "I thought of one! The lawyer who defended one of the "Slenderman made me do it" 12 year old girls". 🤣 I don't think I can stand watching this again to find out but from memory she was as bad if not worse .

[@margaretlumley1648]

Yes! I am so confused,​@@AnnabelleCharrier

[@hemipemi]

List of supplies also includes: "The ability to die" - crossed out.

[@drewski1535]

1:13:56 Detective Tom Casey glad he is retired thank you for services and for being an amazing witness in the Darrell Brooks trial

[@davidallen2026]

As a lawyer, if your defense was going to entail information on a fictitious character named; Slenderman, the thing to have done would have been to present to the jury, and that detective, a full presentation on Slenderman, from the website. Then, you could show Anissa’s drawings with greater effect. Too bad this wasn’t done.

[@bleacherz7503]

Where is the states case?

[@amber_Forever16]

This defense attorney is all over the place and seems very unprepared!

[@anji710]

Very well put, David Allen! I find it to be common sense! Give jury/judge a VISUAL to hear AND see to give that greater effect you're speaking of! Morgan's obviously the mastermind here. I DONT agree w/ Anissa's Mom stating previously there weren't red flags, there are several . Within 2 min of interrogations, I was like wth?! Do either have a psychologist? Morgan's Sorry? I'm afraid not. I don't believe it is possible for her to be sadly. Morgan's not sincere seeing she's still placing blame and not taking accountability. Had P not been so brave, this could've been much worse for sure!

[@alvaroakatico9188]

@@bleacherz7503 I’m used to the State going first, but the defense went first and I’m confused. Usually the state goes first because they have that threshold to meet beyond a reasonable doubt, and usually they get two shots in closing arguments whereas the defense only gets one.

[@jaypierce4378]

Qq

[@karennotAkaren1]

I am almost 3 hours in. If you told me it was a matter of life or death to tell you if this woman was working for prosecution or defense I couldn’t tell you. I also have no clue the point of hours of questions. And that was found in her locker? Over and over. Or Like what is this “a kudos snack bar” If she ever gets to the point I’m not sure I will know what it was

[@GirlyDeadpool]

It’s so bizarre. I also don’t understand why she’s asking the detective about the notebooks and other drawings. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@bleacherz7503]

I think this trial is different from a traditional trial as the defense has to prove Allisa is mentally incapable. Normally, the state would hv to prove it's case

[@amber_Forever16]

Right! Sense like she’s working against anissa , not for her! Also, she’s the most unprepared lawyer I’ve ever seen! My lawyer was much more put together and professional when I went to court for a misdemeanor shop lifting charge at Walmart (it was thrown out and the arrest was expunged from my arrest record)

[@karennotAkaren1]

@@amber_Forever16 don’t know if you know who Geoffrey pashel from 90day fiancé is but he just had a trial and the prosecutor was horrible for almost the whole trial. You should check it out she’s a mess

[@ASoggyShoe]

I've been listening to this case while working, and decided to scroll through the comments. I literally thought that the woman was part of the prosecution team😂

[@denisekennedy4051]

I would like to see the investigation on this thank you

[@maryr6237]

I'm reading all the comments about the defense attorney, and literally was just listening to this and about halfway through I was thinking 'did she not have a lawyer', because I thought it was all the prosecutor. Gezzz

[@spiwolf6998]

The prosecutor didn't even have to speak, she's doing his job for him.

[@johnmeleleu1813]

The defense team gets to go first in this type of case.

[@gerbilgal20002000]

if you're struggling to cope with the sound being out of sync, mute the video, open it in another tab with the sound on and quickly pause and unpause either the "picture" (the muted video) or the sound (the other tab) to sync the sound up. it flexes a bit throughout, so you sometimes have to adjust but it's not too hard :)

[@imnotwendy743]

Oh my god, thank you so much. I will remember this for whenever this happens. This is so helpful, thank you.

[@lkr1727]

thank you so much for taking the time to post that. It happened earlier today w/different video but I didn't see anything in the comments, and since all the technology I have seems to want to be buggy the last few days, I was resigned to just listening instead of watching after starting to skim comments.

[@amber_Forever16]

But I’m on a phone

[@maryvaughan3393]

@@lkr1727 It didnt work for me after several tries

[@lkr1727]

@@maryvaughan3393 I spoke too soon, it didn't work for me either, thought it would, sorry about that.

[@SweetJustice]

Kind of interesting how Annisa grew her hair out like Morgan and Morgan cut her hair off in the short style Annisa had the last time they saw each other.

[@nounouxmarley8771]

I think Morgan’s metabolism is way more challenged than Anissa’s. Neuroleptic she’s taken are awful on so many level… hair included

[@judymoorehead3046]

This lawyer is making my hair hurt! She is so poorly prepared! This whole session could have been over a long time!

[@ginashaffer9293]

I'm a bit confused. This says Day 1 of the trial yet the defense is putting on the case. I didn't even realize the woman was her defense lawyer until looking at the seating arrangement.

[@maceecombs3815]

So weird. Where's the states witnesses lol

[@anthonygregory6797]

Seems like a fair judge, the judge feels unbiased and looks for facts.

[@patriciamcgillicuddy5360]

Hopefully, the jury is unbiased. They're the ones deciding her fate.

[@PaulineRaabe_]

@@patriciamcgillicuddy5360 no jury just the district attorney and the judge gave a 12-year-old girl 40 years in a state mental institution. It's absolutely absurd it was nothing but a public, political, and media hanging.

[@patriciamcgillicuddy5360]

@@PaulineRaabe_ in my opinion, they should have had the same happen to them. Those weren't kid games! Those were actions of seriously disturbed people. Vile creatures. Absolutely horrible "kids".

[@HartkePlayer]

Ngl, this looks a lot like the book I kept when I was around that age

[@deadlyponys8096]

I'm sorry, i know this is supposed to be serious, but when they got to the notebooks and stated the girls 'stradegies' against the creepypastas, i nearly laughed. Espescially when the woman read "Offer them cheesecake"

[@imreallyamermaid9635]

You aren't alone! I did laugh, I laughed a lot actually. I was also highly annoyed with the lawyer being so overly dramatic! This lawyer is something else... I've never seen any trial flow this way and it's driving me nuts!

[@OneMeanArtist]

lmao ikr? Was she defending or trying to prove slenderman is a thing? XD

[@amandarios448]

@@imreallyamermaid9635 give me the timestamp

[@freemanz4051]

"Espescially lol!

[@margaretlumley1648]

​@imreallyamermaid9635 I too am going crazy

[@joanjankowski6845]

Prosecutors need to turn off their mike or quite whispering. Very distracting

[@suzanneelliott4245]

I'm confused here. Why a jury trial for (at the time of the crime) a 12 year old? Is she being tried as an adult? Isn't there a different process for children or am I completely clueless about our system?

[@bulletslider6897]

Yes there is a different system for minors and yes she was being tried as an adult (both girls were). During the interview at the jail, she was a minor, thus the judge rulled her face to be blured. During the trial the judge rulled she was to stand trial as an adult not a juvenile; hence why her face was not blurred and she received an adult sentence. In the "videos before" yes there was the question posed before the court weather she could stand trial as an adult; the holding was that yes she could. Hope this helps.

[@ashleydailey7844]

I feel horrible for Peyton and her family but I also feel bad for Anisa and Morgan’s parents bc they seem like good people

[@valtoton2982]

Nobody wins here! Thankfully Peyton survived!

[@bl0odtea]

morgan’s mother has been lying and excusing morgan’s behavior… she’s the entire reason she wasn’t properly treated from the start. i don’t think she deserves the praise.

[@AliceA333]

And....what is the point of calling the victim "PL" fifty times if you're going to call her "Peyton" even ONCE?!? Just stop even trying to protect her at this point...

[@emi1ysout1et]

And everyone knows her name is Payton so what’s the point

[@johnmeleleu1813]

The point is it's the law.

[@laurilee2287]

I'm busy listening so the fact that the audio is out of sync doesn't bother me. It is common on this channel. What bothers me is that these kids are taking the whole creepy pasty slender man thing so literally. I have watched other channels (Moe Sergey for one) that I had to unsub because he was going on and on about this whole slender man thing and too many kids watch his channel and take every thing he downloads as the truth but it is all staged! Now we got a kid who has stabbed another because they believe in the slender man! It sad and pathetic and parents need to watch everything their kids to on the internet!!!! BTW when my ex and I split up and my 8 yr old son started seeing monsters in the closet and under his bed (I used a cinnamon spray and called it monster spray and then hung a dream catcher in his window) I took him to a childs shrink to help him get past what was making him see monsters. You don't wait till they stab someone to get them help!!!

[@alysononoahu8702]

❤love the monster spray idea....excellent

[@well_weathered]

Shrink?

[@themetaphysicalrev99]

I love the monster spray. I have recommended similar. One should use caution at the same time be careful about acknowledging “things are real”, there’s usually something underlying that needs to be addressed.

[@wioi]

When you use the " monster spray" don't you made him believe that monsters are real even more with that? I mean, when I was a child and my mom would have told me that she has a spray against monsters, I certainly would've believed that she also thinks monsters are real.

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

The scariest of all horror villains -- Eddie Kreeger. 3:31:30.

[@-staticplayz-410]

Im sorry but I laughed 😂

[@PlAiNJaNe521]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Oona707]

Pretty sure dogs make a circle before lying down so they can instinctly make sure it's safe all around them before lying down and facing the right direction accordingly lol Something they got from wolves...just to answer her dad's question lol

[@Oona707]

4 years later lol

[@valtoton2982]

My dog will frantically walk in circles to find the most perfect spot to poop! I don't understand why... Besides, I'm only going to pick it right up anyway... Most of the time I can actually slide the open bag under him as he squats and voila he basically scooped his own poop lol!

[@gretasiegel2402]

This is absolutely bizarre with this defense attorney's presentation. Someone said they thought she should be asking the judge for permission to approach the witness - I agree, as it is only one courtroom protocol with which she is obviously not familiar. I also believe that her tact of telling the witness to take a minute to review is only a thinly veiled interest in giving HERSELF time to review, as she is clearly not prepared. I can only imagine what the jurors are thinking. I mean this attorney is basically testifying, not examining the witness. SMH

[@juliecarrido3989]

being a parent and a grandmother and has work in the Mental Health Department's for many years Affinity mental health starts with the adult parents in the house that being said I am surprised that the parents are not taking responsibilities nowadays young kids at 8 or 10 can go through the internet and social media like Instagram Facebook and Twitter and some parents are not watching their children that being said that's why I'm not understanding that these parents are not taking responsibility on the behaviors of their children it starts in the home.

[@davidjoost]

your grammar sucks old lady

[@feramos2947]

david o

[@alysononoahu8702]

Agree

[@FleagleSangria]

Because the government has chopped parentings balls off. Sorry to be blunt.

[@essiebod8107]

Everything is always someone else's fault

[@dawnhauton7543]

Is he seriously trying to throw the blame onto the teachers ??????? SHE is a psychopath !!!!! Thank God she was caught before she did more damage......

[@FleagleSangria]

...psychopathy and schizophrenia are two very different conditions....

[@RatherBHunterthenPrey]

Ever since watching Juan Martinez during Jodi Arias trial....all these lawyers sound like dolts.

[@stellaboulton9531]

And guess who the one is who is not working anymore? Well done America.

[@RatherBHunterthenPrey]

@@stellaboulton9531 America? Wtf you talking about?.

[@stellaboulton9531]

@@RatherBHunterthenPrey I think the comment's flown slightly over your head, madam. I was actually agreeing with your initial comment as I highly estimate Juan Martinez. Woke America forced his withdrawal from law work yet allows the painfully slow, clueless, unprepared dorks like the female defence lawyer in this case to carry on in their profession, no questions asked.

[@margaretlumley1648]

Juan is the best ever ❤❤❤

[@1exeldave]

I keep hearing slender man whispering in the microphone

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tescosk6383]

im confused......why is the defence calling witnesses?

[@bulletslider6897]

Her father to help vouch for the character she is. The expert witness(es) to testify about her mental state.

[@hemipemi]

"I got a phone call from the detective at or about 11:15 or so in the afternoon" Source of the crazy identified. Her father believes there's an 11:15 in the afternoon.

[@c.swinford8283]

Lol. That bothered me too. Like you only think that's the afternoon if you wake up at like 4 am.

[@lisagoodin2959]

that lawyer wasted no time saying the victim's name

[@aakasoto]

Detective Casey said it first.

[@TinyTinaTeaParty]

Do the lawyers mic’s not have a mute function ?

[@armeyf]

The most disgusting thing about all of this is Anissa Weier has now been released. She walks among us as we speak.

[@melb2258]

Oh how dangerous is that ?!! Esp for any relationship she may acquire …. She must have a therapist for the rest of her adult life.

[@FleagleSangria]

She should have had at least double the time in a mental facility. 8 yrs.

[@legendary1237]

I am confused, is this not the trial of Anissa? All I am hearing about is Morgan! :(

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

The defense was trying to make the argument that the driving force in the crime was Morgan, who is obviously mentally ill, and that Anissa was so under Morgan's will that she was carried along with Morgan's plan until it was too late to back out. The defense was hoping to reduce Anissa's culpability to that of an accessory, which can carry a lighter sentence. An accomplice is someone who knowingly helps a person commit a crime and is subject to the same punishment as the principal. That doesn't do Anissa any good. Meanwhile, an accessory is less culpable because they don't do as much in the commission of a crime.

[@amber_Forever16]

@@sirtalkalotdoolittle well she got out at 18 so she was locked up less than 6 years, so I’d say she got a light sentence

[@OneMeanArtist]

Anissa the manipulative narcissist and Morgan the psychopath. I hope neither one is ever released.

[@FleagleSangria]

...psychopathy and schizophrenia are two very different conditions...

[@aakasoto]

Morgan has been diagnosed with schizophrenia not psychopathy.

[@NickiNickiNineDoor]

I keep double checking the caption: this is Anissa’s trial? The attorney is barely talking about her at all, it’s all about Morgan. I’m confused why she is talking about Morgan so much?

[@teresahickey3021]

I’ve been trying to figure out which one was the bigger killer, but THEY BOTH ARE COMPLETELY IN IT TOGETHER 100% Morgan did the stabbing Idk maybe Morgan was used idk. I’ve not watched these in a long time. But Morgan got 40 years and the other girl got 7 in juvenile? Is that right? Do you guys think it’s because this girl had a better lawyer? Help me decide lol

[@tThisNThat]

Anissa was released in sept. 2021 30+ yrs early

[@moorooster223]

there's a trial going on rn for morgan to be granted conditional release, but no I don't think she's gotten a worse deal due to her legal team. I think she's been sentenced harsher because she is the only one to actually stab anyone, and also because she was deemed legally unfit for trial for a while and is spending her time in a mental hospital and she is being kept as long as she is without release due to her poor mental state and not because of anything to do with the case itself.

[@patstokes3615]

Are any of us surprised when children do terrible thing with the nasty and dark material they can get their hands on. Children have nightmares over things they have seen that aren't real. So mentally young kids are being influenced by those things that aren't even real but they just aren't able to sort it out mentally. Adults are the ones that are giving access to adults thing to children. It always comes down to the lazy, selfish parents, always thinking about what they want and need: new stuff, new girlfriends, new wives, new sex, drugs, drinking. Parents are as needy as they where was teenagers.

[@alysononoahu8702]

Totally agree

[@Bighugegeniouse]

Major eye roll. “Slenderman” isn’t “adult content”… no adults are thinking about slender man. It’s something kids read about online to scare themselves. And what…. Parents shouldn’t let their kids go online at all? And I’d they do it’s because they’re neglectful? Literally everyone is online nowadays. It’s so completely normal.

[@Hankblue]

This is such a copout of an explanation. Slender man is literally a spooky set of stories of the type children have heard for centuries. There's a reason why this happened with these specific girls and nobody else over the course of a decade, they're both mentally unwell and if it hadn't been slender man, it could just as well have been something else.

[@blacknosugarnocream]

Those girls are mentally unbalanced to the point of illness. You cannot parent away mental illness, and things were worse in the days when psychology & psychiatry were not as advanced as they are now. Mentally ill people are not made that way because of creepy websites. They are attracted to creepy websites and violent videos because they are mentally ill.

[@bl0odtea]

i bet you these girls would have grown up to be killers, even if they weren’t exposed to creepy stuff online. morgan was literally diagnosed with early onset schizophrenia… and was experiencing hallucinations/delusions since she was really young. her disorder is to blame, not the internet or her parents.

[@kristennoelle9447]

Defense likes that microphone a little too much...keep waiting for her to start belting out...."I did it mmmmmyyyyy wwaaaaayyyyy"

[@Michelina22]

Kristen Noelle 😂😂😂😎

[@amber_Forever16]

😂 😆 😝

[@ms_violet_majesty]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gottogoalltheway]

Anissa almost looks like a young Janis Joplin in this.

[@kelspicer3378]

Anissa is the leader and Morgan is the follower unfortunately due to Morgan’s mental health she would kill anyone that she was told to kill no empathy, no connection to reality defiantly psychotic Two ticking time bombs

[@60toodles]

you weren't there and nor are you a psychiatrist so your rambling is irrelevant.

[@valtoton2982]

Morgan has been diagnosed with schizophrenia, just like her father!

[@socaldeb]

I've watched so much footage on this, and I'm surprised I just had this epiphany. Peyton was Morgan's best friend first. Then along comes Anissa, who also wants to be Morgan's best friend. Anissa must have hand picked Peyton out of jealousy. While they were delusional about Slender Man, I believe Anissa hand picked Peyton for a very specific diabolical reason. Jealousy. Thoughts?

[@FleagleSangria]

Its an interesting case. Ive also watched much on this. I think its hard to say how much jealousy played into this. Knowing two immature little girls, its certainly a big possibility. But I dont think it was the main motivation. It has been suggested/determined that this is a case of: Folie à deux ('folly of two', or 'madness [shared] by two'), also known as shared psychosis or shared delusional disorder (SDD), is a psychiatric syndrome in which symptoms of a delusional belief, and sometimes hallucinations, are transmitted from one individual to another. Extremely rare. I believe the last case documented in 1954 in Australia? (could be wrong about this, but its very rare) I think this was the "perfect storm". Two immature children, very intelligent in many ways, but underdeveloped in some dangerous ways. The later due some to age. Morgan was and is schizophrenic. Anissa's belief in this fantasy of Slender Man fed the schizoid behavior and accelerated it to a point of no return. They both literally felt that they and there families were on danger if they didnt appease this "Slender Man" (Peyton even confirms this). It was even more real to Morgan I believe. For obvious reasons in that she is serverely schizoid. And so it goes. The sad perfect storm. In which one mindset fed the other. Was it a premeditated pick on Anissas part as far as the victim? Jealousy may have swayed her to Peyton (kind of a bonus to kill her), but I lean towards convenience. She was mean to Peyton (Peyton has stated this also). But she was mean to many children. Slapping children etc. She would defend Morgan. So there may have been a control thing there in which Anissa was being overly protective and then it becomes ownership of Morgan. An "shes all mine" type thing. Was it conscious? Not sure. But I do see it as not the main motivator. The Slender Man "real" fantasy they were involved in combined with schizoid behavior and detache from reality/dilussional aspects was the main issue.

[@blacknosugarnocream]

I would say you're on the money. In my layperson's opinion, just because someone is mentally ill doesn't mean they don't have the panoply of human emotions driving them. The manifestations of those emotions get twisted (perverted) in ways that lead them to do or say things most of us would not do or say.

[@marysutton434]

Why do Anissa and Morgan look so much alike?

[@Whosyamomma]

i hate this lawyer. correct???? Right???????

[@lisawilson105]

Sorry but: I lost track of who the adults in the room were. Not sure how the judge allowed this manipulation by a little girl.

[@ronaldwilliams6431]

OMG😲.....is that Gary Shandling on the bench???

[@thanksnowihaveanxiety8868]

Wonder what Anissa thinks of the new Slender Man movie 🍿

[@marivarner3332]

Probably excited about it and wished she could be free to attempt another killing....

[@kooliz4e]

@@marivarner3332 I just read she is out. ? Which is Ridiculous

[@nounouxmarley8771]

@@kooliz4e yeah she’s out… and Morgan is not… the worse is that Anissa was, in my opinion, the mastermind behind all of this and used Morgan to achieve her will. And now, she’s free… 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Hankblue]

@@nounouxmarley8771 I don't think there was a 'mastermind', just two mentally disturbed people who fed into each other's delusions. If she was a mastermind she wouldn't have immediately admitted shared responsibility for the attack to the police, they were just two different kinds of unwell.

[@maryvaughan3393]

Where does Anissa go while court is in recess? Can anyone tell me?

[@Indycharmer]

The video is off..not matching the people talking..my ocd is going crazy. OMG I thought the lady was for the state. I didn't know she was defense until like hours into the video.. smh

[@themetaphysicalrev99]

Stop and replay the video. It’s the only fix

[@renraff2569]

Why is she going over a journal full of material based on a movie the detective has never seen? How is that a defense?

[@PyrexPickleBlowfish]

Is this a real trial or some sort of weird hearing…watching this makes me feel like I’m in an alternate universe. This is just odd AF.😳😵‍💫🤡

[@novascotiaskater1868]

I agree….I also didn’t think they had a trial,for this case so I think it might be a Hearing of some kind? Maybe a sentencing hearing?

[@nicolebethune2227]

O ,that whispering

[@bettyhinman8517]

The audio and movement of this video don't match up very well

[@dianaartist4351]

Teachers should be paid more!

[@daniharling3632]

Does this attorney have... a point?

[@margaretlumley1648]

No

[@johnmeleleu1813]

She will make their points in closing arguments.

[@drjosefina]

Hi

[@robertharris9218]

1:59:57, Let's play hide and seek. Can't really see this very well, but sort of scary Anissa was trying to get Bella to play hide and seek before telling Morgan to kill her.

[@denisejohnson9404]

Wtf, this friggin trial is a joke . Attorney & judge are not very well prepared. It’s like a mock trial they do in school

[@well_weathered]

What makes anyone think these two should be eligible for release? They believe their parents /families were in danger and were willing to kill another ...comply to evil!

[@FleagleSangria]

Its called mental illness. Schizophrenia on Morgans part. And with Anissa she got caught up in a dual psychosis. This isnt the dark ages any longer.

[@suzanneelliott4245]

The defense atty has me completely confused. What is she trying to do here? Is the defense that Anissa is mentally ill or that she was under Morgan's complete influence and Morgan was the 'brains' behind this plan or what? Hmmmm. Anyone?

[@alvaroakatico9188]

Mentally ill. But still confused about the entire trial.

[@valtoton2982]

I believe this defense attorney is trying to prove her own mental illness and incompetence to present a case at trial! This is one hot mess!

[@johnmeleleu1813]

They are arguing mental defect.

[@gretasiegel2402]

OMG! How are they instructing the jurors to refrain from reviewing news reports, yet she is presenting and entering these articles into evidence?

[@keepitreal8236]

So Anissa was basically normal until she started hanging out with crazy Morgan 🙄

[@MeMyselfandI25]

She is just as crazy as Morgan, if not more so. She just had Morgan do the dirty work.

[@marivarner3332]

@@MeMyselfandI25 💯💯💯

[@MezzieLuna]

The defense team seems really unprofessional. Like for real.

[@Desi-tv8hm]

This could have been prevented. Reporting stuff is very important.

[@karenhill5925]

I know everyone deserves a defence even when they have admitted to the act they are being tried for but in this case it is blazingly obvious that this defence lawyer is horrendous at her job and is way out of her depth maybe this is her first case? On the other hand not sure what evidence she is trying to show as a defence or witnesses as all of them seem more like prosecution witnesses? You can feel that detectives contempt at her unprofessional knowledge of her job

[@rigelrigel2432]

I wasted so much time listening to this defense attorney. Isn’t she beating a dead horse with her repeated reviews of what is written in the notebook of a 12 year old? Very very unimpressive!

[@MzJzah]

Kudos bar? What. Why?

[@sharri7069]

Why do all of these kids taking the stand have strange speech in pediments? They all have the same accent.

[@johnmeleleu1813]

Two of the kids are twins.

[@nataleehulingqhs7252]

Shouldn't this attorney be asking for permission to approach the witness before she hands him paperwork ect? She seems very unprofessional.

[@keeppassingtheopenwindows]

Lawyer is obnoxiously slow .. the cop couldn't stand her .. and the judge 🤣 raise your right hand..higher..

[@denisejohnson9404]

They should question these minor witnesses in judges chambers .

[@LVThN_von_Ach]

Of topic, I once saw a stray dog turn and turn before he lay down on the beach. Then and there I understood why a dog does that, it created a pit, which is much warmer.

[@christyadams1335]

we live in such a sensitive society you can pretty much do anything and claim "mental illness" it's time to start making people pay the consequences of their actions. She almost killed someone she should be locked up, I agree with the prosecutions opening statements. So sick of the "mental illness" excuse to get you out of the responsibility for your actions.

[@lovelypeachesperiodbloodcu4458]

We dont live in a sensitive society in most cases people dont claim insanity. Do some actual research on mental illness because its real. Nothing in our society is sensitive, you are just stupid.

[@kellymurphy6667]

A person's "mental illness" status isn't assigned simple because they or any one specialist claims it to be so, in the same way that most complex conditions are diagnosed, they require assessment from multiple different sources across time and between multiple settings. Only once this process has been satisfied, in order to justify sufficient evidence for meeting the diagnostic criteria or "mental illness" this can only be ascribed once an extensive process of differential diagnosis is first satisfied. This is why it requires specialist psychiatrists and psychologists to spend a minimum of 6 or 7 years of dedicated study and close supervision to undertake this sort of work. If it was as easy as claiming mental illness, I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be needing to pay the kind of student debt I current have - lol

[@Hankblue]

It's very difficult to succesfully claim mental illness, so no you can't. You've literally come to one of the most extreme and obvious cases of mental illness and been like "iT's jUsT aN eXcUsE"... Sit down

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

The interrogation videos of this case made it very obvious that some severe mental health issues were at play. I think it’s tragic that she wasn’t helped prior to her trying to murder a friend. I do wonder what is in her mind today. I assume she’s now medicated and stable as she can be so does she now feel remorse or does schizophrenia cause an inability to experience actual true remorse. I just googled the outcome of this trial. This lawyer is the absolute biggest mess of a lawyer I’ve ever seen. Anyway these girls got 25- to life and the one with schizophrenia was found not guilty by reason of mental defect . She got 40 years to life in a state mental institution. These girls were 12 years old and one was schizophrenic. The sentences are ridiculous. Their victim did not die. Grown men murder and r@pe little kids and don’t get that much time. While they both were clearly suffering intense issues they are not huge dangers to a community. Medicated schizophrenics statistically are not violent. I looked. I do not understand the sentences.

[@valtoton2982]

I really don't understand why specifically Morgan was not being treated for her schizophrenia.... Her father being a schizophrenic himself should have raised major red flags on her odd behaviors!

[@FleagleSangria]

@@valtoton2982 Its very hard to detect schizophrenia in a child. Thats why they dont dx it until a later age. COS (early onset schizophrenia is very rare). Sadly, no one really picked up enough signs or symptoms until it was too late.

[@anitavarley1975]

Evidence from Morgan's locker but she's already been tried and is in mental institute this isn't Morgan's trial

[@shuddle82]

What is going on.......my parents said yes or no....can or can't. They didn't overly analyze why. We accepted what we were told to do. Maybe all this coddling failed to create firm parameters for normal behavior.

[@alysononoahu8702]

We were lucky

[@FleagleSangria]

Yeah well this is what happens also when parents arent allowed to parent.

[@Sippe1]

Out of sync!!!! Terrible to watch.

[@jeannineroberton4019]

Too many choices!! You will go to counseling!

[@megs1111]

The defense lawyer needs to retire. That was painful to listen to

[@ritalake]

Wow what a great guy - he ditches his first wife who was ill and he still decided to have two children with her and leave to start a new family. What a POS.

[@ebrooks24711]

How do you know she didn't ditch him?

[@iloilee]

We don’t know if the divorce was *because* of the illness

[@60toodles]

so what? He had every right to leave someone he no longer loved. Grow up a little.

[@themetaphysicalrev99]

So many judges here. Judge not lest ye be judged! Never heard that before?

[@Hankblue]

What are you from the 50s? Yes people get divorced sometimes, like 50% of the time actually.

[@loulou3000]

Jeff would be Jeffrey Dahmer? He was from Wisconsin

[@shanevandewal4677]

Morgan was singing tidal wave by owl city.

[@halo-halo9244]

😲

[@themetaphysicalrev99]

When? I’ve not caught this?

[@shanevandewal4677]

@@themetaphysicalrev99 1:35:42

[@cattycorner8]

DIVORCE DESTROYS. So this man who calls himself a father divorced his first wife even though he knew she was going to die before 40? What? Then he divorced Anissa's mother too? WTF is wrong with people? No wonder these kids are crazy. No permanence in their lives.

[@enough_is_enough5131]

I’m confused the bar says slender man homicide but a flash comes across saying miraculous survival of 19 stab wounds did she die or not?.. either way it’s horrible but I’m confused.

[@clarebriggs8169]

No, the victim survived thank god

[@themetaphysicalrev99]

She survived. A hiker found her after she crawled out of the woods.

[@themetaphysicalrev99]

The amount of strange comments I’ve observed here have me shaking my head. This is a case that involves children. Be mindful and respectful. This may be old but people are still watching it. Keep the comments appropriate. Stop commenting on the clothing of the child that you cannot even see. This whole things is disturbing and sad. Sad for all three grid involved. Luckily the young girl crawled out of the woods in the condition she was in. Had she not done so, she clearly would be dead.

[@stellaboulton9531]

It is precisely that sort of silly attitude towards 'children' that helps to create the sick-minded barbarians who believe fiction stories and then stab their close friend 19 times. And by not commenting on totally inappropriate clothing in court, you are encouraging the continuance of such unsuitable presentation in a formal setting.

[@sharronfahy6]

Defence lawyer reminds me of the lawyer of chad daybell....... DELIBERATELY speaking " low " very distracting.

[@bluebonnetjasmine969]

They need to be locked up. They are not right in their minds to do something horrific.

[@daltonwreaks1669]

Imagine being the one and only person, in casual clothes, but wrapped in a chain, While multiple police watch your every move.... That sounds awful right? Make good decisions and stay free those that view this.

[@alvaroakatico9188]

These girls were 12 years old, their brains weren’t developed yet! Their parents failed them!

[@Moodyman4231]

i hope people don't do this saying they worshiped "siren head" or trevor henderson will be ruined forever

[@jojosmumdorothy2829]

Omg I'd hate to work in a court how boring . I mean the system not the case which is beyond sad

[@julielarson3107]

Just the fact that these two were so attracted to a fictional creepy slender man shows their mind set. If I was a parent & found out my young daughter knew about any of this than …..off to the doctor we go.

[@duniarodriguez9149]

The counselor de las escuelas no hacen nada ella pudo haber prevenido lo que ocurrió pero no hacen nada