Annual Meeting 2023, Part 6: How Could God Not Condemn the Governing Body for Constantly Lying?

[@tonywalker5538]

Great video Bro Wilson . .im a PIMO currently .This video has put the final nail in the coffin as it were for me, truly showing how Man made this Org really is.I look forward to the final video 😊

[@toriwolf5978]

Congratulations ❤ enjoy your freedom from that organization ,I was in for 30 years so glad I’m out of that cult ……..

[@Elroi3310]

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[@yvonne3903]

I hope you don't take too long. We don't live forever.

[@vintage6346]

Tony, Some people consider a PIMO one who still attends meetings. Others might say they are PIMO even though they don't attend meetings. I woke up four years ago, but Watchtower hasn't disfellowshipped me. I haven't been to a meeting in at least nine years. But we don't have to write a letter of disassociation in order to be Physically Out.

[@BeroeanPickets]

So very glad it helped

[@lisawilson2946]

I enjoy your thoughtful and FACTUAL videos...I thought I was disgusted with these hypocrites but I'm more amazed and horrified with each fact I learn. Keep on doing what you re doing, some of us out here really appreciate it..

[@toriwolf5978]

This is the best channel on KZbin you deserve a million subs ❤so easy to understand. Thank you……..

[@BeroeanPickets]

Wow, thank you!

[@culinista]

God would never teach us lies first before revealing the truth. No error or falsehood can be associated with the one true God. A true believer is someone who knows this and won’t fall victim to the lies and innovations of other humans.

[@culinista]

@@billyroland2758 Yes, you have a point. I once believed in the GB too. It makes me laugh sometimes when I look back. Now I’m no longer under their spell. But during the time that I was, there was an inner feeling that things were not adding up. And I thought my doubts were due to my lack of faith and understanding. I thought it was because something was wrong with me. 🤣 Still I’m grateful for all the good things I experienced with JW brothers and sisters. They were very good to me. I miss them but I will never return to that org.

[@akatheheretic3014]

😏 EXACTLY !!!

[@yvonne3903]

Very well said, do you mind if I use that one?

[@Radrook353]

I guess they don't owe an apology to any of us who sacrificed vast portions of our lives doing things we thought necessary for our salvation because they told us that they were necessary.

[@beautyRest1]

Their arrogance is unbelievable and sickening!

[@compositioncompilation]

Isa 30:20..rev 11:6

[@compositioncompilation]

Ezek 38:20-22 Magog is Russia on old maps.

[@compositioncompilation]

Rev 11:6 says they have Gods authority..they don't need to apologise or seek permission to do what God himself authorises..

[@beautyRest1]

@@compositioncompilation well, I’m also authorized to do what god told me to do and he told me to tell you that you are talking a bunch of BS!

[@RonaldRogers-or7jq]

Thank you very much Eric this is a wonderful exposure, I hope many more who are in bondage mentally listen to this talk. Once again I thank you very much and I look forward to the next one you are truly a gift from the Christ.

[@linoruggero]

Thank you for the excellent presentation, dear brother Eric. Thanks also to the production team. Greetings from Germany

[@beautyRest1]

Hey, I’m also from Germany! I live in the US and I’m pimo

[@linoruggero]

@@beautyRest1 Hallo, werte Beauty. Freut mich sehr das ich dich kontaktieren darf. Ich bin noch ein Zeuge, inaktiv. Seit den Kindesmisbrauch überall auf der Welt möchte ich mit der Organisation nichts mehr zu tun haben. Es ist mir eine Ehre dich kennenzulernen

[@beautyRest1]

@@linoruggero ganz meinerseits. Ich bin seit 1970 getauft , in Frankfurt, ich glaube es war ein Kreiskongress. Eltern waren auch Zeugen, sind schon verstorben.

[@linoruggero]

@@beautyRest1 ohhh, seit 1970, whow. Ich kannte die "Wahrheit" Anfang der 70. Da war ich gerade 10 Jahre alt. Es waren italienische Brüder aus Bendorf / Rhein. Bezüglich deine Eltern tut mir es sehr leid. Ich bin jetzt in der Beröer Gruppe Deutsch und Italienisch und fühle mich wohl. .Wir stehen über Zoom in Verbindung und es macht sehr viel Spaß mit den neuen Brüdern und Schwestern. Hoffe das wir uns irgendwann über Zoom sehen können. Liebe Grüße aus Neuwied

[@beautyRest1]

@@linoruggero vielen Dank, dass hoffe ich auch!

[@davidh5403]

Nice work Eric. The Org reminds me of a dying chain store dressing up it's shelves to no avail.

[@jimmchemings6140]

They have “ the truth” so they don’t have to be right about anything

[@derekk.1750]

Exactly 🙃

[@kammy6340]

You hit the nail on the head. For years I felt inadequate because I was an exemplary brother and the congregation kept wondering why I wasn't a MS. The elders said it was my hours and I would never be an MS if my hours didn't go up. C/O said the same thing. Funny enough, there were articles on why reporting hours was scriptural. Now suddenly they're throwing out a scriptural precedent? Smh.

[@phakamamenziwa8097]

Thank you from South Africa🇿🇦

[@jimmchemings6140]

The GB member said not exactly right. To say that blood fractions is against divine law and to completely change this is not exactly right. No this is a 180 degree turn. People died and no they don’t have to apologize !

[@rigoladejoyeuse2831]

Comme toujours, merci à vous et à toute votre équipe pour votre excellent travail d'éclaircissement sur cette bien sombre organisation.

[@karen1saunders]

Amazing expose Eric. It is very evident that Our Father and his son are using you and your channel to challenge, and by extension slay in the exemplary usage of Scriptures and illustrations the lies, deceit and hypocrisy of this man made religion, which is becoming more cultish and unloving every day How Almighty God is using this type of ministry to save lives and come to the Christ. Gold class teachings. THANK YOU ❤

[@08598478]

Best videos I've ever watched

[@MayorAkweNyenke]

Thank you, brother Eric. God bless you.

[@SeekingTruth2023]

As a young adult I studied with the JWs. But later on, I ended up in another High control group, called Shincheonji for a decade. The doctrine, tactics and demands are very very similar. So almost every exposing JW video fits my former religion too. We had to report our evangelizing hours too, and reach certain numbers every week. It makes me nauseous to see how these groups work through manipulation, instilling fear and pressure, guilttripping and how they lie, change their doctrines regularly, and do that with a broad smile on their face... I am sorry for all good hearted people who give/gave all their time, heart, money and life for these groups, but are deceived. Thank you for spreading awareness! I left organized religion this year. Due to good videos like this. Best wishes from Germany 🇩🇪

[@christinesotelo7655]

Yes, I remember “Bloodguilt”.

[@michellecollins290]

Wow how greedy. I’m old enough to remember how the Catholic Church was scorned by JWs for expecting monies.

[@mr.diversity2267]

As an EX Witness, I’m disgusted by that organization’s mind control. It’s nauseating. The members sit there sheepishly and swallow WHATEVER their masters say.

[@williamcolgin1987]

Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses was the best thing I've ever done for my mental health. Until I was out, I didn't realize how much oppressive guilt I felt over never doing enough in the service.

[@margaretislas2916]

A crafty move. They know that they are under the radar. They are just trying to hide more than a century of abuse and exploitation. But, they won’t escape justice for all the financial , physical , psychological and spiritual abuse of Jesus’ sheep. Matthew 23:15; 15:14; 7:15- Matthew 25:31-

[@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim]

The 'time reporting' change is evident now: my JW neighbours suddenly go into fieldservice every weekend. Because now (as stated in the annual meeting) the elders have 'to really know' their sheep... So you have to be SEEN preaching by the others. No fiddling with your service hours any more.... Thank you for this excellent video!❤ Christmas Blessings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱

[@michelejashinsky8409]

This is so true and so tragic 😢

[@Daniel-wd4jg]

I hope some day I can wash the toilets at Bethel! Oh what a privilege! I hope my Grandkids are under my watch like I watched my kids in California and You turned your back on our Tender Age Precious Kids like you did for our Malawi Brothers.

[@michelejashinsky8409]

All this woke me up especially the we don’t know who will be saved u don’t have to be in the Ark oh and we r not sorry or inspired or infallible I listened to that talk 3xs and thought well then why do I need u!?

[@reineresser4276]

I questioned the reporting requirement for years, did not agree with it, and realized it was unscriptural, and unreasonable. I guess I was way ahead of the GB.

[@KillTheEgo1223]

Amazing, the one standard the organization used to determine whether or not an individual qualifies for privileges in this religion, hours in service, is nowhere to be found in scripture. Good video Eric. Peace

[@missrob4538]

Why is that Mr herd after walking off my feet as a pioneer letting my girls use their holidays to pioneer these organizations changes are not good for us now I know you do not have the truth you have the lies for the scripture says God never change thank God I faded from this cruel organizations just the other day but better late than never I am also happy that I did not loose my girls to this cruel cult let us all give thanks we are out of this cruel organizations

[@vintage6346]

I was born in and am now elderly. But waking up is a blessing at any age. Good for you!

[@MrMrmetro]

The "time" thing is a big deal. My conscience would not allow me to count my time so I turned none in since 2002. In 2020, they DF'd me & a big factor was that I was disobedient by not turning in my time. It was fine when they thought I was "inactive" but when they saw me out in the ministry with no report to follow it got their attention.

[@BeroeanPickets]

Yikes! Disfellowshipped for preaching without reporting, and now they are told to preach without reporting. The irony!

[@jansnabilie5163]

Love youre kind heart

[@connormusic9274]

I'd like to personally go up on his stage and slap Mr. Winder! After justifying their repeated errors, he says, "for this is the way Jehovah operates!"

[@vintage6346]

Watchtower does whatever weird thing it wants to do, and then tells everyone they should "get with the program",... because it's what Jehovah wants them to do. I think Jehovah is fed up with their fraudelent use of his name and reputation.

[@alexanderstevens145]

Ever had a persistent headache 😆

[@kerrydwyer1879]

The judgement starts with the house of God...So that's any group who think they are house of God...not only jw's

[@fastlane956]

only jws. rev 11, malachi 4:5,6-matthew 17:11, malachi 3:1-1 peter 4:17

[@Jatoli]

I think that the rank and file JWs are so used to hearing and hearing that the words go in one ear and out the other without giving it much thought. And their form for bible study is not study at all. It is Watchtower study.

[@sbrightpink]

Facts!!!!

[@dayshawnnalittleton4976]

I'm not a JW, but I have many family members who are. Thank you for creating and sharing this invaluable content. In Matthew 28:18-20 NKJV Jesus commisioned the eleven disciples saying, " All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of age." Amen.

[@phillipsugwas]

The blind leading the blinded

[@suzannemoffitt137]

Complacency brought about change.

[@Thor777AHT]

ExJW seem to be much more awake than JW. How ironic. Good work Beroean Pickets, you also look healthier and younger by the day. Keep up the good work!

[@Shameonyouatgoogleplus]

Only more than a century took! 😮

[@margaretislas2916]

These leaders keep their pioneer submissive and under their control by constantly reminding them of their vows to the organization, not to God or his Christ but to them. Eric, I love how you point how Herd does not recognize our Lord commandment. How can they recognize the voice of Jesus if they don’t give a care about Jesus’ instructions to his true followers. John 17:20,21; Matthew 23:8; John 16:13-15; Obviously they are not Jesus’ sheep but , the wolves in sheep’s clothing , Satan’s ministers 2 Corinthians 11:13-15; 2 Thessalonians 2 ; Revelation 17:12-14. They are doing the opposite of what Jesus commanded.

[@rutechirindze667]

😊😊😊😊

[@georgebrown8312]

The Watchtower Society's Governing Body may seem to get away with their lying and hypocrisy, but sooner or later, they will have to answer for those evil actions. What if they suddenly died without repenting of those sins? Chances are that they will end up in Hell, suffering terrible anguish in every form. That is something each and every one of us ought to consider seriously. The Watchtower Society should realize not only that God hates lying and hypocrisy, but why He hates these sins so much. The Book of Proverbs Chapter 6:16-19 warns us that God hates a lying tongue. The Book of Revelation also warns us that liars, along with sorcerers, murderers, fornicators, blasphemers, and other wicked, unrepentant sinners shall not enter the kingdom of God. They are stern but loving warnings inspired by God to exhort us to repentance from sin and to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior over our lives.

[@vintage6346]

"All go to one place; all come from dust, and all return to dust." Eccl. 3: 20 No. The GB members won't suffer pain after death. Also, "hell" is the grave, not a place of torment.

[@francinemirey1555]

@@georgebrown8312 old age, cataracts, glaucoma are common in older people.

[@francinemirey1555]

Found this on google 😂 Mr Sanderson recently encouraged jws to check google 😅 People also ask What exactly does a publisher do? As a publisher, you implement policies, approve project acquisitions, monitor spending, assign job titles and make decisions about how the company operates. You are also responsible for overseeing all the departments within the company, including the editorial and production departments --shouldn' t WT pay these publishers for all the work they do or did ?

[@yvonne3903]

So the vow to the WT before baptism is invalid because its unscriptural?

[@BeroeanPickets]

Bingo!

[@TboneBoneT]

Hi Eric, I appreciated this insightful analysis of the 2023 AM, especially your focus on the historical and doctrinal aspects. Your discussion on the change in reporting requirements was particularly well-grounded in historical context. If I might suggest, this analysis might benefit from less speculation, especially regarding the governing body's motives. Focusing more on verifiable facts and less on personal interpretations could enhance the objectivity of your critique. Also, a more nuanced approach to addressing potential biases in your analysis could provide a more balanced perspective. Overall, your video sparked thoughtful reflection on the organization's practices. Looking forward to more of your content

[@WJazzxx]

Lying is linked with human condition, sometimes our lives your lives are lies (Al Jarrau introducing summertime) but never forget the little truth who is always shinning in J W purpose/

[@BoninBrighton]

I’ve been watching a lot of your videos. I really like the content t and your style. I’ve also noticed you’ve lost weight and you are looking much healthier in more recent videos, well done 👍

[@BeroeanPickets]

Yes I have lost about 90 lbs. I had help. 😃

[@northernexposure8622]

I remember the last assembly that I attended some years ago. The rep from the Gov Bod only had to make any relatively insignificant gesture to get overwhelming applause from the captive audience. I mean he could have spilled his water, (or Vodka?) and got a standing ovation. From my years performing on stage, I know the (high)... adrenaline rush someone gets when you feel the admiration of a crowd responding to something they like. This euphoric feeling of power, and control is addicting, and is hard to duplicate anywhere else, (it's what keeps the Rolling Stones going) and also the J W Gov Body. Tho they claim humility, it's just an act, or a play, and what you see on stage is only what they want you to see, but some of them are not very convincing actors in my opinion.. I had the opportunity to have met S.Lett when he was in town some years ago as a traveling overseer. He & some of my friends from the K H stopped by the house in an attempt to impress & recruit me. Needless to say It didn't work. Some people are just easy to see thru? As for the GoBod...i m o...behind the veil of meekness and lowly selflessness lies a group of power hungry, control addicts, and that built in crowd of clapping cronies in this vid look like a scene out of the movie 1984. At my last convention, I remember thinking just how programmed it all seemed to be...really to the point of being creepy I knew I didn't belong there. The JWs are programmed automatons, part of a collective, brain dead continuum, and yes, my entire family are happy, and euphoric about the changes coming down from the meeting. They call it a loving, and understanding gesture by the benevolent Gov Bod, sensing the stress on the members in these troubled times , and as a result of the "light getting brighter." Please....Gimme a break! I detect some thing is afoot? Well done Meleti...I also compliment your "producer" and those behind the scenes on the fine video production.Those closeups of the Gov Body talking heads just kill me!🤐 Peggy

[@francinemirey1555]

Wow...Mr. Herd says strange things ..the mark of true christians is love..thats what i thought of right away John 13. 35

[@kevinjackson2361]

All those GB members are just cringeworthy to listen to and watch , and to think these men are part of the 144,000 and will be Kings and Priest in the new system (sarcasm)

[@BeroeanPickets]

With kings like that, who needs enemas.

[@lamardavidson6747]

Wow

[@REDONE-po1nb]

NO need to apologise! No Yuk so arrogant!

[@butziporsche8646]

Thank you Eric. Ha! The last time I pioneered they were “Back Calls” when I “Vacation Pioneered”.

[@akatheheretic3014]

Smh 🤦

[@paula79210]

Pioneers get perks😳

[@billjones261]

Ironic as it may be the GB men past and present are the most sinful of people within the entire organization, not only are they false prophet apostates but they have blood guilt on their hands for instigating the deaths of thousands. The bible gives instructions in how to identify false prophets and how to treat them and certainly isn't about sharing in their false apostate ways. The bible says to not listen to them. 😳

[@sparczzz]

how can God forgive you for so many lies --------------you know the truth ----------------------

[@freeatlast.]

If there is a hot Hell then im sure they have a place reserved for them🔥

[@FrankSmith-vd3ok]

"" ALL that ever came before ME are THIEVES and ROBBERS, I AM the DOOR : by ME if any man enter in he shall be SAVED " THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST John 10 /8,9.

[@antoinettevorhees2997]

Why? Do they have to pay taxes now? No more community outreach???

[@UKS12345]

Yes it’s HB hypocracy

[@cygnustsp]

It's actually weird to see these guys without their beards now

[@connormusic9274]

Oops! Jehovah made another mistake and had to change His mind! "For I am Jehovah. I have not changed."--Malachi 3: 6 ..."The Rock, (Jehovah), perfect is His activity,.....Deuteronomy 32: 4 .

[@samyk.7173]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏thank you from Germany

[@alexanderv7702]

What has Jesus been doing for Jehovah's witnesses; as regards the abuse of they who believe in Jesus?

[@Dottiesmith1958]

Asked? I think Herd meant REQUIRED to report time.

[@fastlane956]

Jeremiah 5:31

[@BeroeanPickets]

“The prophets prophesy lies, And the priests dominate by their own authority. And my own people love it that way. But what will you do when the end comes?”” (Jeremiah 5:31)

[@fastlane956]

@@BeroeanPickets that scripture fits watchtower along with Isa 1:10

[@JP-yn4zn]

Side point, the Israelites didn’t set any time aside for Jehovah because that’s not the name of god that they ever used or uttered. Neither did Jesus. Jehovah is just a hybrid of the word Adonai or ‘my lord’ and Yahweh that was first penned by William Tyndale, only about 500 years ago. It isn’t accepted by any Jews and very few Christians. But the JW’s use the name like they have a trademark on god’s only real name. Because the GB understands how drip fed, mind psychosis works: “THE WHOLE SYSTEM REVOLVES AROUND THE IDEA THAT THE MAJORITY CAN BE MADE TO BELIEVE anything, SO LONG AS IT IS REPEATED LOUDLY AND OFTEN. AND IT WORKS” EDWARD SNOWDEN

[@FantasyVisuals]

Jehovah is literally the goat ( Baphomet ) and they know it is . There are countless subliminal goats draw into watchtower art. The Jewish encyclopedia states that the true pronunciation of Yahweh was " never lost " because the two halfs of the word are used elsewhere

[@fifthdimension1984]

Semantics and completely irrelevant to the topic. The fact is God did have a name and we know is at the tetragrammaton however you wish to "translate" it. It was penned into the old testament thousands of times but later replaced by the title "lord". The fact that the later jewish religion didnt want to use it, say it or whatever, is a reflection of their own superstition. As far as God was concerned, the Jewish religious system0- in so far as they were a "special" people for God- ended when Christ died and the christian arrangement was instituted. It doesnt matter if the Jews or anyone else wants to argue to the contrary and they are free to do so of course. But the Jews today, or since after the first century are no longer God's/Yahwehs/Jehovah or whatever you wish to call him "special" possession. Yes they were once , but no longer.

[@FantasyVisuals]

@@fifthdimension1984 it's not what you want friend that's Jesus point to the Pharisees. Jesus is Yahwehas part of the Trinity ,, hence Lord ( Kurios ) translates to Jesus . Keep your cult - Jesus is Lord.

[@JP-yn4zn]

@@fifthdimension1984we know god has a name, Jehovah isn’t it for many people and for very good reason It also has never been found in the new testament so the witnesses just added it in 235 times. Like they add in everything else

[@fifthdimension1984]

@@FantasyVisuals Maybe have a listen to Eric's discussion on the trinity , then maybe decide how strong the arguments are in support of the trinity fantasy. But really, in the end, it doesn't matter. Most have no idea what ultimate reality is anyway.

[@threegamers343]

Because their not from the father

[@onealjohnson459]

I'm a ex JW and I want to get baptized. Can you please tell me how and where I can dedicate my life to my loving God Yahweh through his loving son, Yeshua?

[@FantasyVisuals]

Jesus is Yahweh , so dedicate your life to him

[@Dottiesmith1958]

I think Eric has a video about getting baptized again.

[@gbnomore3918]

@@Dottiesmith1958 He does and it's quite simple. No frills needed.

[@francesgreist4979]

Romans 1:20

[@BoninBrighton]

So do JW’s not do charitable works? I’d never thought about this before…..

[@BeroeanPickets]

No not in an organized way. Individuals can as long as it doesn’t support other religions.

[@francinemirey1555]

​@@BeroeanPicketsI was once in a tough financial situation and asked an elder for monetary help and was willing to sign a " I owe you" contract. The answer was " we are not a charity, go to the food banks ( at a catholic church) or ask for gov help. He even suggested filing bankruptcy just like brother so-and- so had to do ..I refused. But I did receive a bag of various fruits and vegetables for which I was very grateful...

[@intrepidtraveller8212]

A truly HYSTERIC DAY!

[@dennishagans6339]

WATCHMAN TO ANCIENT ISRAEL 4 By his divine powers Jehovah knew beforehand that even Christendom would need to have his final warning served upon her. He knew what the history of his chosen people of pre-Christian times indicated, or foreshadowed. In the year 613 B.C.E., he raised up a Jew named Ezekiel to be a prophet to his own people. So even though he was then an exile in the land of Babylon, Ezekiel was Jehovah’s watchman to Israel. His prophesyings were carried southwest to Jerusalem in the land of Judah. What Jehovah said to Ezekiel back there is of interest to us today, for he pictured Jehovah’s anointed witnesses of today. This anointed class has acted on what Jehovah said to Ezekiel with these words: “Son of man, a watchman is what I have made you to the house of Israel, and you must hear from my mouth speech and you must warn them from me. When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will positively die,’ and you do not actually warn him and speak in order to warn the wicked one from his wicked way to preserve him alive, he being wicked, in his error he will die, but his blood I shall ask back from your own hand.”-Ezek. 3:17, 18. way cool, I now have a method for looking up refences all that was needed was w81 2/1 and botta bing botta boom cross refence found.

[@Joe-pu3qi]

GOVERNING BODY or MISGUIDING BODY?

[@georgebrown8312]

I think misguiding body would be the more fitting term.

[@fifthdimension1984]

The bible very clearly says that the WHOLE world lies in the power of the wicked one( devil, satan etc). That is, the whole human system - politics, economics, entertainment , media and especially religion. John says in Revelation that the Devil ( and his cohort) was cast out of heaven down to the earth where he is very angry knowing he has a short time. Jesus told his followers that they would be persecuted by the world. In that context and if all those words are true, would I expect "real christians" to be treated favourably by "the world"? Would I expect "real christians" to really "fit in"with "the world"? Do people even believe the Bible on such matters? The Bible says that at the conclusion of things, just as in Noah's day, people will be going about their daily activities- oblivious to the signs - until that flood( of destruction) wiped them all away. Just poetic words do you think? Or maybe Jesus was referencing an event that many say didnt happen?

[@lulubellers]

The governing body puts human attributes on Jehovah @29:36. 😳

[@ivorywilliams7110]

Too much flip flopping by gb. Jehovah does change and he doesn't lie. With all these gb changes I guess we will see next the bible revised and they will call it "new world translation volume 2" to fit their doctrinal changes. I'm looking forward to your next video. You are really making the light brighter and exposing the cult.

[@ivorywilliams7110]

Sorry..correction jehovah does not lie

[@christian.comedy.channel.2]

At 28:47 you state that there is no record of the Apostles baptising people in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I disagree, at Acts 19:2-3 Paul meets certain apostles and asks them if they received the Holy Spirit when they believed, they repley that they did not know that there was a Holy Spirit, Paul in verse 3 then asks: "how then were you baptised." This question proves that the baptismal formula contains the words "Holy Spirit" you've got confused because you mistakenly think that Acts 2:38, 8, 10 and 19:5 are an ever changing baptismal formula, they are not, they are a form of Biblical shorthand which refers back to the matthew 28:19 baptismal formula. I am a former Oneness Pentecostal, now a Trinitarian. p.s. I've just agreed to discuss "What is the Baptismal Formula" with a Oneness Pentecostal on facebook, at 10PM UK Time on Saturday 16th December, sadly that's 3.30am EST.

[@manueloliveira8062]

The GB can be likened to the voice of jesus...

[@Linda-ux8un]

Sorry but Who says that?

[@Daniel-wd4jg]

I'm privileged to be DF. I'm able to protect my Kids. I was an Elder in a 2 bit cow town and I couldn't believe the red carpet for a POS MS 36 year old local Elders son who lived at home and Mommy and Daddy had a WT JW day care center?

[@BJBTJF54]

Strange how Jesus allegedly speaks to the GB but not to his preferred audience.

[@christinesotelo7655]

@@Daniel-wd4jgyeah I remember an elder who actually had a Nursery School teacher hours certificate and he and his wife taught little kids in their garage. And she sold lots of herbs. And I got my kids outta there after trying it. Very stern and coloring violent Armageddon pictures.

[@christinesotelo7655]

@@Linda-ux8unGov Body is always saying their the voice of someone of Jehovah’s or Jesus’ mouthpiece or now some Angel voice. It’s hard to know for sure because they’re uninspired, they’ve gone from Jehovah to the new movie star, Jesus...I don’t think they really know themselves.

[@garyfrancis6193]

Beroean? Do you know how ignorant that is? There is and never was a place by that name. I know because I lived in northern Greece for eight years.

[@vintage6346]

Any chance you could give a video timestamp or the "name"?