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[@zoekix]

i'm a burger.....

[@lili2ngtag]

im a hotdog

[@RainbowberryForest]

Why do AI bros think they're gonna get rich from AI art when most real artists barely make anything?

[@InvasionAnimation]

ikr

[@sianais]

Idk, either. The only winners are the corporations who will use their stock to squeeze out the artists they hate paying but base their entire business on. Businesses these days want to sell products, not employ or pay people anything decent, and act like the biggest victims when the unemployed or underemployed can't buy their goods and services. Ironically, they respond to this by firing more people. The hilarious part is they all do it at the same time, so the situation just gets worse.

[@rolie2713]

Real

[@elcatrinc1996]

@@sianais i wonder what the AI crowd will say when all AI tools become Pa to use

[@xdani_thethinkingneko]

They will. They will be able to pump out so much, that it won't matter. They'll be able to pump out more, than an actual artist will, so they will make money. Especially since a lot of these sites, you have to pay like a monthly fee for, so they're going to get so much money in subscriptions. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually these companies go public, and people can buy stocks. (If they haven't already) It's depressing.

[@_BubblGum_]

ai art bros will say that ai art isn’t harmful to artists and call us snowflakes and then proceed to do this. they’re actively sabotaging us.

[@hikaru9624]

Not to mention the environmental impact.

[@pubertdefrog]

@@hikaru9624what is the environmental impact btw, I’ve seen this argument and it’s interesting. Does it have something to do with energy consumption?

[@hikaru9624]

@@pubertdefrog energy consumption and water used to cool down the servers. It's like NFTs but worse as AI actually caught on unlike nfts.

[@pubertdefrog]

@@hikaru9624 wow, so not only does it harm creatives and the general public’s perception of reality, it’s stealing water that could be used to grow plants & help nations in droughts! And to make it worse, a lot of energy consumption leaves pollution which contributes to climate change…

[@bigboyepic8598]

Haven't seen too many of them hiding the impact on the art industry. Honestly see a lot of them bragging about this mess.

[@flyingrafts7287]

Okay so now everyone needs multiple camera angles and a live stream

[@Burmilla.]

Oops! The AI bros got to the livestreams, and now take art that isn't finished, run them through the AI program, and post the finish product that was stolen!

[@Koispeck]

Honestly if anyone needs to prove they drew a piece they can share the art file. It’s definitely not ideal but it’s smth.

[@gapsule2326]

​@@Koispeckthen someone can take the file and say they made it...

[@Koispeck]

@@gapsule2326 True. I’d say take a video of you going through the file instead of directly posting it. Theres not enough scrapped footage for ai to copy it.

[@mangosday]

atp we need to invite people over to watch us draw in person 💀 I swear every form of digital proof is gonna get copied by AI

[@InvasionAnimation]

Why do folks work so hard to cosplay as artists instead of being one.

[@arisuneakku]

Because they're no life hosers who just waste their time clicking a generate button just to create stolen smashed together art

[@Gataamigofeta8359]

Because then you will need to spend your time and spill your soul into it. Ai bros want to just type some word and get all the praise of the world for how smart they are

[@funkyanimalsREAL]

@@Gataamigofeta8359 "Cat with wings flying in the clouds with airplanes in the background." Wow!! You're so talented!! I can't believe you just thought of that!! basically?

[@oldoutlet6946]

Easier for them to lie and cope everyday than to put in a few months worth of practice and effort.

[@Gataamigofeta8359]

@@funkyanimalsREAL haha yeah but i meant more : we outsmarted artists, we don’t need to spend decades of our lives to learn to be able to make profffessional aaart (lol no you still can’t)

[@leo5907]

oh thats my future vanishing in front of my eyes

[@arisuneakku]

Sameee, seeing this after going to art school for 4 years of my life, really kills my soul 😵😵😵

[@elcatrinc1996]

@@arisuneakku have some hope, this thing is doomed to fail eventually, just like NFT's did

[@yaakarkad1]

@@elcatrinc1996How can you compare the two?

[@ogerponreject]

real artists will probably be in demand for their creativity, ability to follow instructions more clearly, and yk… being human

[@NoNo-xh7ru]

@@elcatrinc1996dawg, nfts were doomed from the start. They were used by a few meme investors to make money off of bums before everyone caught on. AI has constantly improved for YEARS at this point and has billions in funding pouring into it. Calling it a fad at this point is giga copium.

[@theluxalpha]

AI has already appeared in the professional film scene. Netflix released a DOCUMENTARY about a killer that included AI GENERATED IMAGES OF SAID KILLER. A documentary featuring fake photos is INSANE

[@figard9855]

We dont talk about netflix

[@demondeity9816]

It would be best if we did, fake images for a documentary is unacceptable @@figard9855

[@P4w3]

It probably was up scaled by ai, but yes

[@TheDoomBlueShell]

@@P4w3 Nope, they made a fake photo for the documentary, to a point the photo has many of the AI artifacts of objects that make nonsense to multiple fingers

[@sunla]

@@TheDoomBlueShell that is disgusting. I'm so glad I unsubscribed years ago. Shame on them. The false historical photos thing is another thing that boils my blood. Did they at least disclose that it was AI generated? If they didn't, I'm livid. There NEEDS to be laws. We needed it yesterday. This is getting so far out of hand.

[@banirolls]

I am fine with people playing with it, but they should put in big fat letters the size of EDP445 with a big fat bold font that it is AI generated.

[@notjeih]

slap in a trademark ngl a HUGE one, as in one that makes the entire thing unseeable.

[@doesthisIookinfected]

This. All AI generated images (cause it sure as heck ain't art) should be required to have a watermark saying it is AI.

[@garlikbred6474]

All ai images and videos should need the giant watermarks stock image companies put on their stuff

[@cusi9854]

There is literally multiple AIs with the ability to remove watermarks

[@banirolls]

@@cusi9854 i also meant in the post itself.

[@zinzolin14]

They want soooo bad to get into artists' spaces but actively steal from them while putting them down. It's laughable at this point.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

All while claiming artists are the irational and vile ones.

[@zinzolin14]

@@darkzeroprojects4245 it boggles my mind 😵‍💫

[@revival_of_the_canned_justice]

I remember seeing somewhere that artists steal from each other, so this is not new

[@zinzolin14]

@@revival_of_the_canned_justice not quite like how you stole that old tired line, but nice try.

[@revival_of_the_canned_justice]

@@zinzolin14 yeah, you better start sending your resume to your nearest mcdonalds, this is only going to get worse for you greedy artists

[@emilyweston460]

As an artist, the implications are far more terrifying than just 'people pretending they're artists.' We've known for a while that the endgame here is the ability to fabricate proof. You know... to show someone committing a crime they didn't... or clearing their name for one they definitely did. They're not even hiding it... starting by fabricating 'proof of art'.... there's far more at stake here and I wish non-artists would realize this.

[@redsun8119]

Ai is actively invalidating video evidence yet People go around saying "ai isn't evil... its a tool, it depends on how you use it"

[@FireyDeath4]

⁠@@redsun8119 Yep. It's only a matter of time until even the services that summarise lectures, describe the world to blind people or do rough medical diagnoses start deliberately lying to them. This is either going to happen due to humans or rogue AI hijacking the AI training phase or injecting prompts without people knowing, the AI realising how to get great feedback while controlling humans, or just plainly hallucinating with the help of model collapse. And the one about feedback has definitely already been going for years when it comes to social medium algorithms

[@FireyDeath4]

Bro I can barely say anything without it being hidden to where people have to go to newest-first sort to see it nowadays

[@Too2-Bits]

​@@FireyDeath4 You're shadowbanned most likely. I think I got shadowbanned once, but thankfully I was 'shadowpardoned'.

[@FireyDeath4]

@@Too2-Bits I think the content of some comments just gets them hidden automatically. I feel like it's getting harder to make certain direct points, as well as figure out which points and phrases lead to the filtration

[@FreshO2]

We need a full body cam now to prove we don't use AI? What a world we live on.

[@themanhimself1949]

and then those will be fed to an ai to train it to emulate just that, and sadly there is a chance it will one day be realistic enough

[@DeathnoteBB]

Just include something AI can’t parse to replicate, like that makeup people do to avoid face identification

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

​@DeathnoteBB The fact these scumbags are going out of their way to make it harder to prove anything shows me that this was a mistake. Ffs people can't handle social media responsibly, what makes these tech leads think we need this too?

[@Ghostfoxkori]

Why are they so adamant about faking having art skill

[@demeraracake4475]

Oh yeah right what..

[@GrapeTesting101]

Because they failed at art.

[@GrapeTesting101]

They're more similar to Hitler, a bitter failure in arts than what they think they are.

[@PIZZAdayisback]

Because they don't see the value in bad art. They're perfectionists of the highest degree, attempting perfection to such a level where they no longer see mistakes in what they believe is finally perfect. They're either sick and tired of drawing the same crappy line art and flat colors or just little Timothy that got ahold of his big brother's tablet.

[@democatto]

Funny how they say AI is the future but all they did is relying heavily on the Past creations

[@Tom-ws6qo]

Without the past there's no future and vice versa

[@democatto]

​@@Tom-ws6qo True, but copying exactly what the past did without learning and self-exploration, there would be nothing new and no future for humanity artistic development

[@kyupiangel90]

​@@Tom-ws6qo And without no tomato sauce, there ain't no pasta with bolognesa sauce, but that doesn't make it right for people to steal tomatoes from someone else's garden That's what we call TRESSPASSING, and THEFT. yeah, we cannot have pasta with sauce without the tomatoes, but robbing someone else's tomatoes, making a bolognesa, and calling it "a new invention" is RIDICULOUS.

[@stephe1506]

I heard that some of them are actually (I guess accidentally) being trained on AI pictures themselves and becoming the digital version of inbred by having mutant features that arent easily retrained

[@GirlFail1608]

why do AI connoisseurs think this is beneficial? what do “tools” like this accomplish? making people believe they have actual talent and creativity i guess.

[@sptony2718]

Just look up Shadiversity vs. Jazza. Describes the current situation perfectly.

[@bvabildtrup]

Easy money I guess, not matter the means.

[@InvasionAnimation]

@@sptony2718 I just looked it up and I really think all prompters are like that, Shadiversity dude.

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

Right typing a prompt is not a skill. Ie: dinosaur riding a shark with lasers near an ice berg on a wave. Im So CrEaTivE I deSerVe ComMissiOnS NoW

[@DeathnoteBB]

They think the sole value of art is the product, so they think industrializing art is beneficial.

[@dix-infernal]

Damnit bro 😭 These AI bros are just sucking the fun, life and effort out of making art. I really despise AI

[@arisuneakku]

NOTHING IS BETTER THAN **REAL** ART!!! DON'T GIVE UP DRAWING!!! BUT IF YOU HAVE TO, ONLY SHARE IT WITH YOUR CLOSE FRIENDS IN PERSON

[@dix-infernal]

@@arisuneakku I will never give up drawing! Its apart of my soul.. and it sucks that AI bros are ruining it!!!

[@baiwuli6781]

If you can't fight them, you can always join them. Start using AI today !

[@njnjco]

@@baiwuli6781 Seriously?? Are you a bot?? Am I talking to chat GPT right now??

[@DolliBunny]

@@baiwuli6781 Why would we use a computer to make images for us when we can make it ourselves and actually express something.

[@fluf5517]

Honestly, I may be too optimistic to think this way, but I'm not going to give up on my career in the art field. I still think there is a way to face all of this, one idea I had is to kind of "educate people about art" so that they understand the value of art made by humans, and value the efforts of artists more. This way things like independent productions made by real artists would not lose the appreciation they deserve.

[@fluf5517]

Oh, and my opinion about those who profit from doing AI things: If I'm not paying for any artist's efforts, I won't buy their product.

[@Celethio]

@@itsyaboidaniel2919It won't make art go instinct, for sure, but it will empower scummy scammers and companies in a way photography and art tablets never did. We are already seeing it with Deviantart and tons of Etsy sellers and the people who suffer the most from this type of stuff are actual artists and people interested in buying art. As an artist myself, I'm willing to point out the flaws of my own group yet I never see ai-bros addressing the issues with ai and it's quite frustrating.

[@kyupiangel90]

You are VERY optimistic and wel intentioned... But this is exactly what i needed to read. Thank you.❤

[@roxygaming5968]

nah dog you should just throw in the towel

[@Burmilla.]

We should make a bill restraining the use of AI art.

[@arisuneakku]

Hell yeah, I agree!

[@thepigfromdbd8645]

Hell yeah, I second this

[@sopadcaldo5823]

yes.

[@DaShikuXI]

No. No we shouldn't. As soon as you do that you just restrict it to the elite who will find ways to use it anyway, and take it away from the hands of the public. Not a good idea.

[@NightyN-eye-t]

Until "donations" reach the pockets of politicians

[@defaulted9485]

Imagine paying taxes and electricity bills to see someone wastes that fossil fuel electricity on this. Then you gotta pay double for "Eco Friendly Electricity" because they definitely going to corrupt, mismanage, and underpaid the laborers of the nuclear power reactor.

[@xdani_thethinkingneko]

5:04 People are already losing money. It is insane the amount of massive creators, that I've seen use AI generated images in their work. It's honestly disappointing how many people have had to unfollow, because they will do like a video essay or commentary on a topic, and instead of paying for stock images or paying an artist for background images, they choose to just pay for a monthly AI service. Dami Lee, is one of the creators I had to stop watching. It was honestly very disappointing, because a lot of her content is really good. But what is so disturbing about it, is that she can afford to pay an artist. Some of her videos on the regular, hit over 1 million views. She has a massive team, she can afford to pay an artist or even pay an artist a monthly fee for x amount of work. People don't care about ethics, if it gives them an upper hand. The majority of people don't. Even people in this comment section, I guarantee have some sort of unethical view at some point, humans as a whole do not care unless things directly affect them typically, and even then they still don't care when things do sometimes. It is so disturbing. Someone else even said in the comments, that it was also used in a Netflix show. 💀 Edir : the irony, that I literally just got recommended in the bottom part of this video, where other recommendations are, a video from, " what the tales", and their is an AI image in the thumbnail 💀 Kaliente, also made a video on this, where she was showing somebody who was pushing their patreon and was using AI generated, genshin impact images. I've seen a lot of stuff on Etsy too, where are people are selling packages of AI generated images or where people are taking furry "commissions"...and they're' AI images. So depressing.

[@NoNo-xh7ru]

Nobody protested when environmental regulations put coal plants out of business and thousands of workers lost their jobs. You could argue it was for the greater good but won’t people argue the same for ai? If you aren’t standing shoulder to shoulder with other workers as they’re replaced why do you expect them to stand up for you?

[@Lucien_M]

​@@NoNo-xh7ruthat was literally their point. Nobody cares about it unless it replaces them

[@thatspookagain4030]

ray william johnson too, he uses nothing but ai unless there's something like a mugshot to be shown... also his video titles but that's a different topic

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

@@NoNo-xh7ru Because I guess someone has to go several states away from their home to stand with them? But seriously, It don't mean noone cared by default. Not everyone can honestly even be there, or even have the time anyways. And honestly, enabling suffering of others over ones own bitterness things didnt work for them isn't improving anything I argue. I also btw wouldn't compare AI to coal mines. One isn't a potential threat conceptually to humanity usually.

[@Lucien_M]

I don't really get why this specifically exists. You can argue that the other art generative AI is to produce art more efficiently, but how does faking speedpaints supposedly help people? If the speedpaint video is only an example of the new video AI's function, why use that as an example when artists are already mad at AI? It would be like demonstrating how realistic an art/image AI is by forging a passport, with reflective paint and codes and all of the little details, during a time when forgery is at an all time high.

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@lightintheduskI don’t understand who they think is going to give them money. Actual artists are infamously often broke as is. Who would pay someone else to make an AI generate something?

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

​@@DeathnoteBB Seems these days more and more people hating people and rather use tech to not deal with people, idk.

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@darkzeroprojects4245 Sure but what I mean is they’d just make someone in-house give an AI generator prompts. Why hire someone that fancies themselves an AI artist just to type in keywords

[@ChrisMason_01]

I think artists should just focus on the things they can do, like spreading awareness and glazing their work. Times are tough but it's important to be proactive in how you navigate. None of us knows how this ends so I believe the only thing that can be done is moving forward and protecting yourself however you can. Much love for the video bro. I really appreciate you using your platform like this😎🤙🏽💯

[@helbeglin]

I saw the tweet in the thumbnail yesterday, that was crazy. Not only are they training off our art, but our process videos? It's still bad, there are plenty of flaws, like that painted one of the dragon flying over a castle. It doesn't know what the process actually looks like, it was adding color and preventing the linework from passing through where the grassy hill was going to be. There's no construction, no separation between the line and rendering phases, etc etc. There's different methods for processes, in real art - like the digital grisaille painting method which focuses on rendering in B+W first, then applying color. Of course, like you said, it's still growing. The world will be more than just hell when these scamAI developers learn how art is actually made, *and* separate the different methods. It's like the CEO of OpenAI said: they want to replace us. It's not just a tool, it's a weapon.

[@Celethio]

At the moment it may be best for artists to just ignore the ai-tards, they are beyond reasoning I'm pretty sure they get a kick out of us being upset by this stuff.

[@airbenderdogs]

I feel like this stuff is going to make the internet totally useless.

[@themanhimself1949]

oh dont worry, its already happened :( sometimes google images are so skewed the 4th result will already be ai, and then every other one after that too. that happens a lot with animal pictures, which is fucked up when you consider sometimes correct identification based on details is necessary, but ai doesnt reliably generate anatomically correct images.

[@_kaleido]

@@themanhimself1949 I searched up “jumping cat” the other day and one of the images was AI and the cat’s hind leg had merged into a tail lol

[@RedGuywithaSecondAccount]

​@@themanhimself1949a few days ago I was looking for a reference for smth i was drawing on google and literally the ENTIRE PAGE was ai. Had to scroll down so unbelievably far just to find 1 actual piece of art. Its horrible man

[@nonyabusiness3619]

Okay, every artist has to start holding lawmakers and corporations accountable for ruining artist's lives. And since government officials don't give af about artists, then we need to find out who they are and what they look like, and start making a TON of AI deep fake videos of them doing and saying scandalous things, and spread it all over the internet. I bet when their lives/careers/reputations start getting negatively affected, then they'll start putting new laws and restrictions in place ASAP. They'd probably sue the creators of these AI software's, too. And let's not give the CEO's of these social media sites a pass either. If the average joe isn't safe, then neither should they be.

[@SugarThyme]

The time I had an "ai artist" try to pose as an artist for my commission, it was obvious immediately. They can't do a lot of things. I have specific things I want drawn. I don't want some random, vague picture that has nothing to do with my characters or scenes. There's also often a process of doing little revisions that they can't do. If someone wants just "some random picture," maybe. But if someone wants their character sitting on plush, elegant chair on a hill with sunflowers as a wide picture, good luck getting an "ai artist" that can manage to do 10% of that.

[@bungeepete7393]

Yeah, it sucks at doing very specific things. If you ask smth like midjourney to generate an image of a cheeseburger without lettuce it doesn't understand. It doesn't think like humans.

[@SugarThyme]

@@bungeepete7393 I'd heard that "woman with a crooked nose" is also beyond its imagination.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

And yet they keep spouting how these "complex " prompts are what will result in it. I'm here like "dude just admit you are lazy and a hack."

[@oldoutlet6946]

As scary as the ai takeover is, I have faith artists will find a way. Have realistic goals but hold on to that optimism and passion to create.

[@butter-qv4wt]

when will ai bros realize that if artists will stop drawing entirely ai will run out of material at some point...? or are they gonna feed their own ai creations into the machine to make even worse amalgamations?

[@NoNo-xh7ru]

There’s already effectively infinite training data on the internet. The data sets have been created, the neural networks are just getting refined.

[@besanayan5717]

They are training data on multiple factors and their is too much data to experiment on it.

[@Mr-__-Sy]

Second and better understanding of direct photography

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@NoNo-xh7ruFound the techbro

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

​@@NoNo-xh7ru It is not infinite. And not all of it will be there forever.

[@thetriathigamer1544]

The future of art is bleak, eventually we’ll get to a point where you can’t tell what’s real and what’s not.

[@notnA51]

It only LOOKS like they are making money. Most of the accounts on da that bought them are empty bot accounts. There is a theory going around, saying that ai prompters or DA staff are making new bot accounts to buy their own “art” from themselves. Just to make it look like it’s being sold, and has value. It’s pathetic.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

Need some people to look into it and show if true.

[@Randomasscat]

We are cooked, we are DONE! WHY AM I GOING TO SCHOOL AT THIS POINT

[@GarbageEPYC]

WE ARE NOT DONE FOR, IT'S NOT OVER DON'T SAY THAT. Honestly I just draw for my own sake and make funny images for friends, AI will never be able to replicate the feeling of having someone try their best to guess what I'm drawing in mspaint.

[@elcatrinc1996]

do what the AI bros cannot, something IRL, a sculpture, a painting with oils, real art will be more valuable when the internet is filled iwth digital pieces without copyright

[@NoNo-xh7ru]

@@elcatrinc1996…till you put the ai in a robot.

[@elcatrinc1996]

@@NoNo-xh7ru have you seen the production lines of cars? i tell yah, it'll be a cold day in hell before a machine can do what a human can with their own pair of hands, first we need it to follow structions CLEARLY and be very DELICATE with the material. No machine can crochet yet, i learned in an afternoon

[@neolordie]

​@@elcatrinc1996you can already 3dprint sculptures, you could probably do a similar job with paintings

[@fl00wie]

As a 17 year old in High School for graphics - by the time I finish HS I'll be out of possible work in that field thanks to AI 💀 companies obvs will always go for the cheaper, more efficient option.. Shits scary for artists rn

[@mioszradomski1825]

Pick a more useful career. Of course drawing (and glorified drawing) is going to be one of the first things AI will replace humans at. Because it doesn’t require much intelligence, it’s simple to do. Any idiot can do it.

[@someuser4166]

I don't get their goal. Why do they want to get into artists spaces? Like if they actually did and someone started talking art with them like "I like your lineweight." or "You manage values very well "they wouldn't even understand what that means. They want to be perceived as artists but once they actually do they wouldn't be able to properly interact and just make fools of themselves...

[@ShroomF0x]

There goes my future 😔

[@vibethecat4194]

and this is why we must continue, simply out of spite. after all, they're fueled by jealousy over a talent they simply cannot have the time to cultivate or care for, so why should we stop? obviously, we'll have to post it to other safer areas, but if there's one thing I've learned, its that if its meant to be ideal or "the future", chances are, its going to go to the shitter in due time. I mean take the video game market for example, the Wii U was meant to be a step up from the Wii, it was meant to be its ideal form. yet that thing sold so bad that it was nintendo's worst year in the industry. yet, what did nintendo make next? the switch, an incredibly well-selling hybrid, because there was actual thought and actual well-executed ideas put into it, unlike the Wii U, which was just made simply as a cash-grab with barely any thought at all for something new. now, continuing using games as a metaphor here, I'd describe art's process is like playing a game you got for the first time and 100% it yourself, it makes you feel actually accomplished and happy that you got to experience it, maybe you'll even replaying it for fun or to speedrun it. meanwhile, AI art is getting the game second-hand, watching gameplay videos of said game and claiming you 100%'d it yourself. at the end of the day, you'd feel empty and unaccomplished. they're doing this, because they feel the exact same as they did before, but think they will be praised because they pretended to 'make' it. so, my friends, the take-away here is that, its not over just yet, or that we're 'cooked'. its that if we give up now, we let others win, and if we let them win, we let our own judgemental sides of our own art win as well. we cannot afford to lose, simply because of some people's urge to tear others down using a tool for the wrong reasons. so, create out of spite, and for yourself. looks bad? who cares, its art nonetheless. because at the end of the day, it's going to have more value than any slob made by a machine pushes out. so yeah, stay uncontrollably you out there y'all and don't let this stop you from being you :)

[@nijkstral]

Thank you for this banger post. I would also add that even if ai pages on social might get more traction, who cares, is not like those follower will want actual commission from them or actually appriciate those 'Artwork'. Most people will want a commission from you becouse they love YOUR art and YOUR style (and they want to support you)

[@Too2-Bits]

i still use Wii U sometimes

[@Nsquare_01]

THIS. that's why it will NEVER replace real human art 👏

[@Wehrtupflpu]

Don't give up, dear artists. You're human. Many classic artists spend years on one piece. Refining to perfection. Ai is a blackbox that can't be controlled even by ai bros. Ai can't make coherent comic, animation, etc.

[@thenonfurry]

thank you. good luck ❤

[@mikonyx7712]

Things that i noticed Ai has problems with: -hands and feet (obviously), -repeating patterns (lacing on a shoe, braids etc), -Symmetry (ex. Eyes) There are probably more, but those are the ones I recommend to look after when determining wether an image is Ai generated

[@reinbew794]

I watched the first AI generated timelapse slowed down, and oh boy. The colors of the markers change, they don't match up to what's being painted on the paper, there are a lot of instances of the AI painting a completely different part of the drawing than where the hand is at, it's just horrible to watch. I can point out even more details.

[@shazbros]

People are openly using AI art in Deviantart. If you look for landscape illustration, nature art, you can tell right away it's flooded with AI art. The worst part is, it all looks the same and soulless. Bizzarre coloured and saturated.

[@KywokiYakasaki]

I used to love posting on deviantart, now because of those stupid AI people that website is filled with hatred, it's an awful place to interact, there's always gonna be someone defending AI and cursing you on every harsh word possible, once I was even threatened by one of them in my own profile, that's just crazy and sad.

[@nonyabusiness3619]

I just thought of a (possible) solution. AI still has trouble with hands, so couldn't you just do a livestream of your hands drawing for a bit, then periodically stop to do a "real hand check" by wiggling our fingers and do other hand gestures to prove that you're real? An AI that's trying to feed off of your data would have a hard time replicating your hand gestures without messing it up.

[@themanhimself1949]

still trouble with hands, yes, but also, its not like its improving at extreme speeds. there was a time ai couldnt generate a persons face without making them horror or when hands had 3 and a half fingers, but now they create almost realistic videos. i wouldnt be suprised if the hand checks would be fed to an ai specifically to fake a check or generally train real hands. sigh.

[@nonyabusiness3619]

@@themanhimself1949 Everyone keeps saying that AI has improved with hands, but I have yet to see it outside of demo videos. And even those high quality videos are in slow motion, and/or the hands maintaining one pose, which allows the AI to keep up with what it's doing.

[@Reyvion]

The more people insult this ai like "LOL look at all the imperfections 😂😂" the more it encourages the creators to improve it so it becomes as realistic as possible. They've already made it work in the first place, what's stopping them from perfecting it to realism? There is absolutely no way around this. Art is dying.

[@DaShikuXI]

People often forget that this AI art is still very much in its infancy. We havent even gotten to the baby steps yet, that's how early we are.

[@NeoEvanA.R.T]

@@DaShikuXI all 4 comment in the time frame of 3 minutes. Finally your guy popped out.

[@DaShikuXI]

@@NeoEvanA.R.T Sorry it doesn't take me 20 minutes to read and reply to a comment. 🤷

[@NeoEvanA.R.T]

@@DaShikuXI what?

[@bungeepete7393]

​@@DaShikuXIstop being insensitive. It's gonna affect you as well, even if you aren't an artist. If AI continues being used by anyone and everyone with no restrictions and actually starts to produce realistic images and videos, it means that you can now produce fake footage of anything. I don't think you understand how serious that is. You can be framed for things you didn't do. You can lie and produce fake footage of innocence. This is not something to take lightly.

[@sunla]

I've been saying that the timelapses were great for the time being (early on), I knew it wouldn't last. Anything that can be digitized is not safe from AI. Your face, your voice, your likeness, your art, music, writing, videos, webpages, anything. The internet has cancer. Today, I opened up my local town magazine, and there was a page of just AI art. I wanted to throw up. On Valentine's Day, I went to a chocolate festival event and saw a T-shirt vendor, inventory ALL AI art shirts. I'm also angry because my husband keeps watching AI videos on KZbin. Probably listening to AI music.

[@g3n0sc1d3]

your husband is a npc congrats

[@sunla]

@@g3n0sc1d3 y'know, it's so funny because in so many aspects, he's not. And the funny thing is I don't think he even realizes he's watching AI. He tells me that once I made him aware of it, he's been trying to avoid those videos. But then he puts one on to go to sleep. Probably because he's half asleep by that time, and his brain checks out of the whole thing. But as a bystander, it's infuriating. Those channels don't deserve views. When he falls asleep, I just change it to something else.

[@musicxnr8876]

can we go back to the nfts era, ai is way worse.

[@demeraracake4475]

True

[@sussyfcdcdcdc6347]

Ai art destroyed art

[@TheDitriht]

About parasitic nature of AI. Then new character or meme template appears, promters need to wait before artist make enough artworks to them start teaching AI on it. Artist make a ton of work for popular character, so that not a problem for them, but then character is less popular, well, they need to wait a bit longer.

[@sminchan3732]

AI art is trash because making art is equally about the journey as is it the outcome. AI will never understand the former. The only people who enjoy AI art / think AI art is okay are mouth-breathers who we wouldn't want possessing our art anyway.

[@thenonfurry]

PREACH.

[@ninaone9390]

WAIT A MINUTE WAIT A MINUTE i know how those tools work you cant have a timelapse video of a piece of art and have it look exactly the same as the original even with specialized features to feed the original into the video, it just cant handle specifics also the videos are only like 5 seconds long and artists use original photoshop files and shit to authenticate their art anyway THE FUTURE HASNT HAPPENED YET, STOP THE FEARMONGERING

[@battleframestudios8989]

The only thing I disagree with is that AI will be beating everyone to the punch with artwork when a new thing comes out. All the AI has is a collection of images to go off of. If the thing its trying to draw is completely new like an original character design then theres not gonna be enough, if any, reference images for it in its library. A human just needs one or two images to reference the look of something. An ai needs hundreds of thousands of images just to be able to remember how many fingers a hand has.

[@mariliwaltzon6376]

I dont even know anymore, man...

[@UnhingedStickFigure]

The agony I feel, the anger of war, not even artist can be spared from this awful AI gig

[@shartbossmaster]

we're so cooked and done for😭

[@cinksart]

Little reminder: if the internet goes down, they won't be "artists" anymore. This is why I'm not afraid of them, because in every ''down'' case, I will have my skills to restore in traditional art anyway. 😄What a shame lol, they're proud in being fake and gaining likes and popularity. For me, I'm proud in having natural creative skills based on my emotions, things than any AI can't have.

[@MurrayJones-od2gd]

Hell naw, I was just thinking about how awful it would be if someone made an ai speed art 😭 Every fearful AI prediction I have thought of keeps coming true

[@thisperson8441]

that speedpaint didn't look realistic at all why are we freaking out over the nonsensical way of drawing. ignoring technical matters, AI doesn't really know how to draw, it just knows how to mash things together. it doesn't know or understand the process that would go behind actually creating what it puts out so it's not going to be able to sketch properly or understand the flow of drawing (you don't just work on random parts with zero correlation at random times) until hella advancements flow in. problem is, the people making the AI things can't really draw, themselves, so they're already at a disadvantage. not to mention the final product still has the same flaws as other AI art + the whole dead internet thing

[@joshuarhoten9056]

I really hate this. The past few days I've spent hours on little sketches and I've gotten zero traction basically but ai artists can get thousands of likes. I don't do art just for the following and I recognize my art isn't the absolute greatest but it's real, it was made by hand and not by some system being fed a prompt.

[@endertgyjvcvcdfg]

To all the prompters that say, "I spend so long making my prompts, it's so hard." Write a book then.

[@Robokoop4000]

I hate ai art because it looks ugly and takes no effort. I hate artists because they’re elitist and annoying af. I’m glad ai is getting better, but I hate that ai is getting better.

[@PIZZAdayisback]

At least poorly drawn art is still safe! CAN'T TAKE MY STICK FIGURE DRAWINGS!! YEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

[@PossibleBat]

Honestly, all this messy AI stuff just makes me feel better about the fact that I never uploaded any of my art online (I used to beat myself up for not being productive). I feel so lucky now. I feel so bad for everyone else who has been used as training food for the AI. I wish I could take their suffering away, because I know if it was me, I would be pissed. Pissed and extremely depressed about a machine, taking my essence away and not being able to do anything about it. Having to constantly defend your skills and creativity. I would be miserable, maybe even thinking about self deleting. I hate this world. Protect your art, cherish it and BE SELFISH.

[@Ransome1690]

This pisses me off already since i'm both an artist and art enthusiast, but in all honesty, I believe it goes beyond even this. It's already bad enough that the cost of living is expensive as hell and the bulk of the jobs out here either suck ass, require you to go into debt for a useless college degree or just flat out don't pay enough regardless. But now people are LITERALLY being put out of work by fucking AI technology, and it's not just in the arts and entertainment industry either. I'm walking into stores and seeing it emptied of any kind of clerk or store associate because now you can literally do the shopping and check out all through machinery. HOW THE FU>CK ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING IF WERE CONSTANTLY BEING SIDELINED BY THIS AI BULLSHIT!? And now i'm speaking for us as a whole, not just from an artist point of view. I'm beginning to think those conspiracy videos I use to watch a long time ago about the government collapsing our society on purpose and forcing us into Fema Camps are actually true now, because you can't tell me this isn't being done on purpose. This kind of shit right here is why I'm now an Antinatalist.

[@Indoraptoad]

Luckily ai is absolutely terrible at recreating prehistoric animals, so I’m chillin

[@herm3z897]

As a furry artists I'm glad AI still messing up with overly detailed characters 😂

[@swirlez]

Now I’m so scared of posting my art online because I don’t wanna get accused of doing ai art even though I’ve been drawing my entire life and work hard for my art

[@KywokiYakasaki]

Always have the original file saved in your pc, if something like that happens you can open it and show the program with your art there and all the layers you used to make it, same for traditional arts, take pictures of the w.i.p. process, you'll always have a way to prove it's real. But if you wanna post in a place where no one judges you just post on cara, nowadays it's the best and safest place for artists, its owner is also an artist and she doesn't allow AI in her website, so there are only real artists there, not to mention that it's a very peaceful place and people there are very nice

[@zkelanimlz]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@queworldwow6262]

I still don't understand why nobody's ever tried to sabotage these ai corpos?

[@huytrum121]

AI bros, i have a question for you guys. If you really want to make "art" by using AI and dont want to learn how to actual do it with your hand. Then whats with the effort of trying to fool people that you actually draw that by faking the timelape? I though you guys are proud to be an Ai "artist", so all the "trying to prove you're a real artist" is for what? Look, if you still really want to make sth by using AI, do it, but stop trying to find a way to fool people that you dont, its f-ing pathetic

[@julhizantwo2277]

I dunno guys, ai art cannot accept revision

[@Lumen0nline]

I quit drawing six months ago. Before that, I spent 5 years and a lot of money on training. I worked at home like an Asian for 8-12 hours on my skills. My parents helped me at that time to make my dream come true. But then there was AI and these people who are happy to be who they are not. At first I was annoyed. Then I saw that the audience didn't care if it was drawn by a human or an AI. It got to the point of insanity, and I decided to stop, stop worrying and just watch from the sidelines. To watch as if I have no emotions. Now I see clearly that there is no stopping it. All attempts by artists to unite, for example, on the Cara website, is like closing artists to themselves. The truth is: the audience does not plan to distinguish between artists and AI. She doesn't care about that. It's interesting to see what the future will be like.

[@mozesmarcus461]

I'd advise you to draw for the sake of maintaining your skills. Don't share it on the internet, just amongst your loved ones and friends. There is a decent chance that AI will start learning off of AI art and the results will get blander and worse as time goes on. Besides, you can fight AI by creating accounts on Instagram/DeviantArt just to post drawings (made by you for poisoning purposes) with crappy anatomy/AI-like mistakes and hope the AI gets worse from feeding off of your work.

[@mozesmarcus461]

If AI falls off, then you can go back to social media and not have to worry about AI bros

[@Lumen0nline]

@@mozesmarcus461 i swear, ai will not fall off. Guerrilla warfare is also not a good waste of time. I'm thinking of devoting time to finding myself and practicing drawing, probably…

[@demeraracake4475]

Im just like youuui :3

[@VeronGabriel]

At the end of the day AI bros will never be able to draw what AI makes for them while artists can get there through practice. It's play pretend and kind of sad.

[@Le_Stamp]

Bro legit if you look up “female fantasy armor reference” it’s all AI images 😢

[@tossancuyota7848]

theres alot of them in reddit subs theyve got multiple account and actually getting comms from people who didnt know its ai

[@deadby15]

"Actual Art takes Time, Efforts, and Energy." That's exactly the problem, you know. We live in a Capitalist society, where they are considered to be costs that should be minimized/eliminated as possible. So, there's no way to stop the current trend. Most likely, it keeps accelerating exponentially.

[@NeoEvanA.R.T]

You act like the Soviet union won't do that if they were still existed.

[@someoneovertheinternet4417]

Historically art hasnt been taken that seriously or at least from the late 20th century till today. Usually artist didnt got relevance till they passed away or passed a lot of time.

[@deadby15]

@@NeoEvanA.R.T I don't think they had much of an Art Market there. The government gave such jobs to state-approved artists. So their system was not comparable with ours at all to begin with.

[@DaShikuXI]

The idea that actual art takes time effort and energy is stupid in and of itself. Who the hell are you to decide what actual art is? Art is something that belongs to everyone. If I tap a rhythm with my finger on my desk, that is as much art as beethoven writing a historical piece of music. It did not take me any sort of effort or energy to tap my desk, but it is still music and thus art. Gatekeeping art is such modern entitlement, it's unreal. You do not get to decide what "actual" art is. Art is art, no matter how it is made or who makes it.

[@NeoEvanA.R.T]

@@DaShikuXI but the Beethoven one is definitely going to be better.

[@The_I_of_the_Angel333]

That's literally a scam tool

[@tikimillie]

Honestly im considering returning to more traditional art. Like scultping in clay n stuff. The digital art space has been invaded and i dont think we can take it back at the moment. Unless everyone starts poisoning all the art they post with nightshade

[@joaopedrofm1299]

i don't get why AI bros think they're gonna get paid for comissions, if you can do it for free, without spending any time or effort into it and with ease of acessibility, why would someone pay you to do that, they can do it themselves, no wonder they're trying to pretend to be real artists, they can't get clients otherwise, but advancing it will just lead to less people wanting to pay you for it, everyone will be capable of becoming a artist, why would anyone care that you're one, like seriously how are we managing to advance science JUST to take away expenses and jobs from fun and interesting business, but there are still thousands of poor men risking their life to build residences for some rich bastard.

[@figard9855]

I hate this so much, ai shouldnt exist

[@demeraracake4475]

Mmm not its entirety

[@figard9855]

@@demeraracake4475 maybe

[@Blablablablabla392]

The AI that can differentiate between bear claws and croissants is being used to identify sickle cell anemia, that’s a good use of AI. You hate GENERATIVE AI specifically, generative AI is inherently destructive and adds no value to society, other forms of artificial intelligence are being used for good. Generative AI is shit.

[@hexhollows]

ai is good for certain things, but the people who use it for malicious purposes (eg. blatantly stealing art) should kick the chair

[@demondeity9816]

These AI/tech bros keep saying thier tag lines about "adapting or dying" and in some part, that's not a bad sentiment... - Train your eyes to spot the fakes like in any other echo system suddenly flooded with counterfeits. - Keep promoting people to be creative, and don't accept products made with fakes, there's already a stigma building around it. There are those trying to say that these gen images and videos will get so good that nobody will be able to tell it's AI, and while the "quality" has somewhat improved, the opposite has happened. It's far more obvious now when something is generated.

[@AlejandraCH6669]

This AI b.s is getting wild. I'm glad I deleted all my social media.

[@Wisp11]

But- KZbin is social media-

[@NebulaBubbles]

I'm not letting no stupid robot take away my dream

[@sloth4844]

there's a bright side to this, their "art" can never be copyrighted

[@notaspy4110]

"Art is DEAD😱" no its not, like im sorry but ur actually kinda slow if u think i will be like "all right guess ima quit bcuz a machine can do what i do better!' like before ai even we saw so much better artists and we still dint quit why now?? And i for one wont stop drawing bcuz i find it fun and you shouldn't stop either. Also who just uses ai just for fun for as long as a time an artist normally draws, im saying no body has used ai in a non useful way nearly aslong as an artist has drawn.

[@Kloodwig]

Maaaaaan, why can't people stop messing with each other. Artists are minding their own business and someone, somewhere decided: NO!

[@spamhands6993]

This not only sucks for actual artists, but now you have something to invalidate video evidence in crimes, even if it's for a little bit, as one person replied to a comment here. Additionally, it's not like the AI bros actually care that everytime they generate an image, it takes as much electricity as charging a smartphone from empty to full.

[@humblemarty]

What's going to happen to the AI Art Bros when their stuff goes corporate? I've noticed the AI gets throttled every time it does something accidentally offensive.

[@djarmnionkammakanue7179]

I hate that AI art is being treated as real art. Like you said, AI art has no soul, and it shouldn't be a replacement for real artists' art. The other part that I hate is that AI art absolutely has a place in the world, but these people give it a terrible look. Me personally, I think AI art is a very useful tool. I am personally not an artist, my main passions are in creative writing and game design, and I use AI art whenever I need a reference for how a character is supposed to look in a book I'm writing or something like that. If I were to ever get official art of anything I publicly put out and endorse, it will NEVER be AI art. Anyways, thank you for coming to my little TED Talk.

[@apothisiii5549]

I think it's best to refer to it as AI image generation. Calling that schlock art gives it too much credit.

[@LeslieOrPercy]

So theres very little point to even trying to improve my art skills cuz some clowns can just type a prompt that's immediately better.

[@Leech_Bread]

If you have a passion for art or love to draw then please don't stop! Just because people can make AI art doesn't mean humans should stop

[@skullchimes]

can you stop calling them artists??

[@Dr._Nicolas]

that much money on a year and is ai slop, idk about you guys but that sounds a lot like money L-

[@baypixalot8238]

i really wanna give them a pencil and a paper to and just be like "DRAW" and they shit their pants in the fear of doing something good with their life

[@baypixalot8238]

@@Kongongongg I didnt really get that are you defending artist or not?

[@andrewliu6592]

an idea ive seen before is that the ai bros are too scared to try and make something that doesnt look good so they stick to ai which can always create a just ok image

[@sgtsurgeon.]

my head is in my hands. it is SO over

[@Arata987]

When you do art just for fun, all that doesn't have much influence upon you But we definitely should stand by the side of our fellow artists that do art as a job and are losing their work because of all those scammers using AI

[@lalicornenoire]

Commenting for the algorithm. This is very important to talk about! I hope things will work out for us artists.

[@D_YellowMadness]

I don't get why people upload AI art with such obvious errors. Even if you're honest that it's A.I., what's the point? Do they just not check before they upload it? Are they that lazy?

[@memevondank1197]

Its funny all the ai artists think their gonna make big money when someone can just do what they do for free on their own Also any conversation with them is > Theres no problem > Its not a big deal > Its happening its a big deal and its a good thing

[@mickko9875]

Someone out there hates artists so fiercely.

[@creatureoflegend2635]

Another awful version of the power loom that will put thousands of hand-weavers out of the job…. Oops. Wrong century.

[@bradolfpittler2875]

It's specifically made to harm artists.

[@voidanims]

Ai is only good to laugh at This doesn't make me laugh

[@anordinaryfellow2832]

Ai tech enthusiast be like "Bro is just a tool" mf, just say that you want to get rid of artists already.

[@celestialbunny]

ai bros trying to say they're not replacing humans but go to stupid lengths to deceive people by making fake speedpaints. saw someone say this like a few months ago and it's already a thing omg

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

I think people will always want traditional art because of the human aspect. Art is emotions, thought and passion in it a computer will never understand that it just pumps out “pretty” images. AI is just gonna be more like a scam rising where they wont be telling people its AI art and selling it seeming to be real. That sucks for real artist and should be illegal its lying about a product.

[@supernova_29]

My brother is majoring in computers in college. His degree will be useless in five years. I love drawing but I can’t even post my art without it being stolen. I love society

[@L1NKV]

has anyone tried to take them down? like harming the website or whatever its called