ANOTHER BIG BUG at MSI! (FNC vs GEN.G)

Having a closer look at the Aurelion Sol Bug that happened today.
Spoiler: it's not good.
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[@Mysteryspy]

The fact that someone can make daily uploads about bugs in league is hilarious to me

[@P.H691]

Imagine being hired to be a programmer and the moment you saw the spaghetti code, a part of you dies.

[@Sinaeb]

the fact that someone can make daily uploads about bugs in major riot events*

[@xpy99]

@@P.H691 You dont need to be hired, ask to any programmer what they think about lol code, probably the best answer is that it's a miracle that every game it doesnt has 10 gamebreaking bugs

[@elgavion7829]

I never seen a channel do that. I feel Vandiril should start doing that. If Vandiril posted daily about bugs in Riots game, they would 100% pay attention.

[@pedropimenta896]

​@@elgavion7829you must be new

[@lordnightingale7346]

Several meteorites just burn out upon entering the atmosphere of the Earth and never get to touch the ground. Maybe there's an explanation

[@antoinec8248]

You might be onto something, maybe in the next update adc will need to reload after each aa to push the realism

[@nittneuknittneuk3282]

@@antoinec8248 Jhin is crying in the corner

[@T9K66]

Every 5 blitz hooks, he will need to plug into the wall outlet located behind each turret to charge his lithium battery. The iblitzcrank skin will need a custom lighting port charger purchased from apples official website for 15 dollars.

[@SzeleR]

i love you already bro XD Astro hobby m2

[@ambiguousspotlightofinsani6764]

@@antoinec8248 Jinx minigun is gonna have 9000 attack speed, Lulu will have to carry ammo ribbons in inventory slots, and Jhin's pistol shots will ricochet off Malphite due to insufficient armor pen, Caitlyn will be able to shoot off 1000 units like a real sniper Oh, and there will be a support item to store reserve ammo, like vigilant wardstone

[@NXE212]

Aurelion got that Projectile dysfunction

[@imaginefinding]

Thats what happened when you cut one balls

[@saphcal]

it happens to space dragons around that age. tragic.

[@enigma4941]

It's very common for Aurelions above 40

[@faisfaizal5194]

Bro lost his balls

[@saltblood]

Next patch: Aurelion Sol nerf: R now has a 1% chance to miss any individual on enemy team because they had a cool skin and asol didnt want to hit them with a star, just seems a rude thing to do

[@saltblood]

thanks for re hearting after I fixed the grammar mistake lol

[@Hanginthere4100]

- Airbone zhonya - Aurel ult disappear What's next riot ?

[@deathkaih6857]

insta beaking nexus with some global ult for sure

[@Darkkamikazegirl]

lvl 5 undead karthus ult

[@ImaskarDono]

You forgot Smolder teleport

[@Shabowdiadlo]

Chogath VGU

[@antrancaobao7110]

GenG becomes champion is the next bug

[@TreatzLoL]

The goat for checking this out properly

[@Vandiril]

As always at service

[@nicklasdamsgaard4655]

Vandiril should make a pro play team that only use champions with known bug that Riot hasn't fixed for a long time. It seems like bugs only getting fixed, or at least faster, when happening in pro play, so if Riot won't take the bugs to them, let's take the bugs to Riot :D

[@LuxminosityBoy]

If past experiences are anything to go by, Riot actually has a rather big list of known bugs, players are told to avoid performing the bug if it's deemed game-breaking or that it gives an unfair advantage to the one performing it, intentionally performing one such bug might even get you disqualified. There was a case of rell w + flash interaction after her release, where it was a mechanic but riot suddenly decided it was not intentional, the bug happened in the Spanish league and the match was considered as a loss for the team of the player that unintentionally performed the bug out of muclke memory from it previously being considered a mechanic. Then there's also this other time where idk who it was, but at worlds a leblanc clone stole lb's bluebuff with an autoattack (when LB could summon the clone with the R) and there was a game pause, they concluded that it was a known bug and players were aware of it, because of that, nothing happened and the game continued on with the bluebuff gone.

[@alitaher003]

@@LuxminosityBoy so instead of fixing it, they punish you for using it, even unintentionally? Sounds like Riot alright.

[@lucasvicente3637]

@@LuxminosityBoy for a moment i misreaded your comment and thought that the bug only happened if your game was in Spanish. The worse part? i just accepted like a thing that could perfectly come from riot xDD

[@ElGrandeIngenio]

i am guessing that it is a Z axis issue as aurelion as a caster is in the river and the champs hit were near the river aswell, that would be my first goto, in my mind that would also explain the visual, as i think the visual part gets canceled cause it travels under the map. regardless of what happened, its a wild bug rito cooking some nice spaghettis as always

[@flaming910]

now that you mention this you're probably right, like even the minions take no damage but dragon takes no damage which reinforces the z-axis idea. league really needs to get rid of z-axis for abilties its so annoying

[@Sinzari]

It's a good theory, but z-axis doesn't exist functionally, it's purely visual, hitboxes are all 2d

[@legendaryjimbob7685]

@@Sinzari Yeah, nah. It does sadly. If you throw abilities from river into jungle from example, you can often see them go straight trough the enemy because of it. Its literally very easy to spot and in fact has been known for quite while. In fact, there is even video from 6 years ago, talking about the "low/high ground" issues, caused purely by z-axis, and even Vandril is in the comments aknowledging it. Yeah, but sure z-axis is just purely visual and has no effect on the gameplay, keep defending riots failures maybe you one day get nothing for it but less fun due to the game remaining and getting more broken due to people claiming known problems arent real

[@MaskedDeath_]

@@legendaryjimbob7685 Except abilities passing through enemies when going between river and jungle is an example of a purely visual issue. Due to the difference in height they look like they should hit, but on the xy plane they're actually missing. That being said, I really hate the height difference between river and jungle. It has basically no benefits (I'm 99% sure it wouldn't be noticeable if champions walked on water) and the visual issues it causes are super annoying.

[@feajar4373]

I remember someone mentionining that empored asol ult is coded similarly to new skarner W so my guess is that chovy had his cursor hovered over the area of lucian that caused him to create that cone where no enemy takes damage around his cursor (same as in skarner vid) so if milio or ori would've been outside of the actual asol ult it wouldnt hit them either. And to top it all off it was paired with a visual bug for spectators only, they wouldve paused 100% if the ult wasnt even visible

[@tadihotado3518]

Fr, i was just waiting to see you make a video about it Amazing how this game is still bugged even though its pro league, jesus rito

[@guffels]

i remember live people thought it was some combo of poppy ult and xin but who knows

[@renataglascgaming]

If you watch closer, the minions at mid lane was affected by the ASol's upgraded R, but didn't take damage as well as Lucian.

[@Lollaksyotuube]

He did mention it.

[@ggcedicoes6599]

AS R shockwave doesnr damage minions

[@core36]

@@ggcedicoes6599 an ability that can wipe out every minion wave on the map at once would be very strong, yes

[@snepia]

okok this sounds like a mad theory but didn't somebody say that Asol R is coded as "a bunch of minions moving", so maybe Poppy R knocked back the "bunch of minions moving" as they were about to start moving which stopped the from hitting lucian, but somehow still reached xin?

[@camolot2102]

idk how true/false that is but lets say that it is coded like that, i dont belive that is the answer bc that would mean that the 'minions' don't have the unstoppable tag and if that was true then we would see this bug way more, also spawning the 'minions' not at the center of the ult would be a pretty weird way to code it.

[@snepia]

@@camolot2102 yeah its farfetched but its riot so you never know

[@mrdeafter]

​​@@snepia wanna know a bizarre fact? Yasuo windwall is actually a portal that simply teleports objects far off the map and that's the reason why tether and laser skill won't get "deleted" because it is not an object thus can't be teleports. Also, the code originated from Jayce E skill.

[@object_name]

@@mrdeafter If that was true, wouldn't any boomerang skillshot then get back to the caster, like sivir q, or ekko q? I don't think they have a range limit, as i was able in aram to use the sivir q on fountain and then take the portal, the boomerang followed me all the way to the end of the portal, just getting slightly invisible.

[@mrdeafter]

@@object_name I remembered there is a work around for boomerang skill that they coded in like "if object get teleports then set portal point as a caster" what it means is when the object get teleports the portal itself is treated as if it casted the skill.

[@xVibra]

I remember recently seeing abilities just straight up fizzle recently for no reason similar to Asol. I can't remember what it was, but it definitely happened.

[@ix_risor]

Maybe it’s something to do with lucian leaving the middle part of the ult as it lands, so the shockwave thinks he’s already been hit by the middle and shouldn’t take damage again?

[@xXxLuismaxXx]

That could be easily proven by 2 people

[@yahyabenaicha8597]

Asol nerf i take it

[@goliath_red1102]

This reminds me of another Aurelion Sol bug that happened in the EMEA Masters Semis between Entracht Spandau and Geekay. When PowerOfEvil used his Q the position adjusted without him moving his mouse resulting in a chronobreak.

[@ToastyFlavors]

A company that can’t even get its bugs cleaned for esport level gameplay wants me to allow kernel anti-cheat on my system?

[@kazeviu1601]

why are you scared about it?

[@ancientaccount7982]

​@@kazeviu1601 cause anything permanently running at kernel level without legitimate justification is a massive security risk, and vanguard is pretty well documented to just brick computers at will.

[@janah6473]

Sweet summer child thinking riot is the only bug infested game. x)

[@ToastyFlavors]

@@janah6473 ?

[@axelaction2290]

they're using a nuke to kill off a few mosquitoes that are gonna survive or reappear anyway, and you're left taking the blast

[@Mert12fb]

can you pls do a video about profane and runnans interaction, profane does proc on runnans but it only hits 1 time a target while ravenous procs does damage every time

[@alegend2337]

OMG I saw this LIVE and I was like HUHHH?? Even the commentators almost brushed past it because it was so unexpected.

[@apumpkinsquash7881]

To list more bugs! W and Q can fail cast where your q will stay in one spot (even if your hands are off). What causes it? No clue. Just happens. W Q can target a specific location and not lock off it. W Q can fail to proc Q stardust circle despite being on the target. Normal Q can as well, losing 70% of your damage.

[@laaarz]

how did you manage to get the actual replay wtffff what a legend

[@XIKaMuIX]

You should do like bingo card video where you have bugs that might happen during msi

[@jahhe2611]

where does one get the replays from these matches?

[@literalspaceglider]

i was hoping it was one of his q bugs so that riot could finally fix his q, but I didnt even know about this one yet lol. Good thing it happened in proplay though.

[@criisjooy7805]

nobody saw this but morgana perfectly timed her shield so lucian wouldn't be affected by the ult shockwave. later that game we also see evelyn popping on lucian's pov when draven ult passed him, resulting in lucian ulting towards evelyn and surviving the play.

[@o-pwrdhd]

Does this have to do something with the 3d world ? Because sol casted the ult out of the lower Part. Im not an Spaghetti pro sorry If its bad thinking

[@matepozzo]

when i saw it today i thought xin cancelled Aurelion ult lol

[@killer.aviles9001]

where are you able to get the msi games from? i have never found the games online.

[@jahhe2611]

i wonder aswell

[@matteolauthelier1862]

I don't know if you noticed, but it also only apply riley on the minion wave but doesn't do any damages on it O.o

[@MastaPhil666]

Is Lucian the poster boy now for getting hit by (or in this case not hit by) bugged mage ults? I remember the Kathus ult bug on Lucian Maw in Worlds 22... crazy right?

[@louis-charlesnadeau3447]

Could you do a video about every augment in arena that doesn't do what it says? For easy exemples, phenomenal evil doesn't give the 40 ap when taken as second augment and tap dancer doesnt not accutually give 10 ms. Also Runecarver's damage tracker is bugged, just some idea for videos!

[@sukii4325]

Bro im so happy to watch this while i was watching the game i thought i was tripping out after seeing aurelion empowered ult just dissappear hahahha

[@Tomil4444]

another bug what aurelion have from day rework is sometimes u are stuck with ur q while u flight in one direction even when u move mouse nothing happend and u need to cancel flight or breath to change direction of q

[@goopo5320]

Don't think it was changed either that his Q while in W mode gained stored dmg if you kept beaming the same unit after they die. The next alive champ you hit with the same beam will take all stored procs the dead target took. :)

[@annaduszewska7911]

"and riot, pls fix."

[@epifanioimbesi7148]

how did you get the replay of the game?

[@crusher1337]

Ever since Arena came out there are many visuals bugs on Aurelion. Many times the E(Singularity) isn't visible at all, the ult visual bug is for both and can happen frequently in Arena. Only two times my Q wasn't visible in Arena. Maybe Riot messed up the code with Arena?!

[@xflip94]

Havent played lol in months and Cant understand a single thing happening in that team fight

[@gaminggaming7658]

How does one get pro play replay files exactly?

[@numberMX]

Right? He just casually mentioned that he got access to the replay file, like... how??

[@miguelarrieiro]

hey vandiril, i'm having some bugs in arena and i thought it could be good for you to share it first one: phenomenal evil and other effects that are given buffs when they are the second to be chosen does not apply their correspondent buff (in this case, phenomenal evil doesn't give 40 ap); when you are respawned from the circle after you die, if you have an arena champion (sett, jhin, pyke, lux, and the others), their presentation and the amount of life you will lose on loss show up until end of round last one is not in arena, but it's bugging me since morgana rework: in portuguese, morgana has a line from taliyah when she uses her q and hits an opponent ("eu falei pra parar"). not one that happens all the time, but still happens

[@miguelarrieiro]

also last one: when you change from team to team on loading screen to check their masteries, elo and whatever, their borders "accumulate" (sorta?) and create a shadow over the champion portrait

[@dekaonderr]

brother those arent game breaking bugs

[@miguelarrieiro]

@@dekaonderr so what? these are still bugs

[@hateisme]

if there was a video about lucian bugs in pro matches, it would be called a movie.

[@downrightdisturbed]

Poppy probably just yeeted the meteor out of existance.

[@austrianbeats74]

never seen the bug in one of 100 asol games. same with the zhonias bug and at proplay they litterly happen daily 😅

[@victorzhou6172]

The only thing I notice about is that everyone inside redemption range doesn’t take dmg from ult.

[@yukipaw1702]

I think it's due to Chovy's camera, things inside his camera view gets damaged while things outside of it aren't. That's why non of GenG players pause the game

[@skyeazura3593]

The minions took no damage also? Look at the ranged minions, health bar didn’t move. Is it a visual bug?

[@Haelda]

I knew instantly it was bugged when watching it live so I was so confused why no chronobreak happened or at the very least a pause after the fight. It may not have changed the outcome of the fight but I guess we'll never know.

[@azizkash286]

riot quality control go crazy

[@Klennexus]

Shouldn’t the minions also be significant damaged and not just slowed?

[@stan2139]

The most insane part of this clip for me is that Milio got CC'd for about a day and did not get turned into pulp by a raging K'Sante

[@nils9413]

Earlier today in a game my Smolder ult disappeared just like this.. Could only see the shadow of his mom flying lol no dmg for anyone

[@Strlz_Remtachi]

the Dragon also got hit coz it it was on-alert then it became aggressive

[@mrsimplord8693]

Which kind of skin is Chovy playing here? There is one with the lee sin drop Chance maybe this causes the bug maybe ?

[@lup4118]

its because aurelion was on the river where its a lower part of the map so the animation hid under the ground and lucian did not get hit because the hitbox is different when champions are have a ground height difference

[@user-er1fs3je4x]

i'd be extremely surprised if that was true in any way - league is a 2D game (map) with 3D graphics, the most I can see them needing are flags for "udnerground", "flying", etc. for champ mechanics. I doubt that just standing in river makes any difference. If that was the issue, we should be seeing way more of these occurrences, especially with champs that can "fly" - Talon, Smolder

[@ancientaccount7982]

​@user-er1fs3je4x you're out of the loop, then. River has been infamous since forever for causing Z-axis visual and functional issues. Vandiril has a ton of old videos about skillshots missing because of Z-axis offset.

[@user-er1fs3je4x]

@@ancientaccount7982 i get the visual issues, and the skillshot discrepancies because of terain diff (the projectile tooltip being innacurate or weird when crossing from lower to higher), but I haven't seen anything to suggest projectiles can go *under* the higher terrain from river. Would you be able to point me to an example, I'd be interested to see. Not claiming to know how it works, just guessing obviously. You could be right

[@cyan2910]

The ult also didnt hit the minions in lane

[@SimplestMike]

At this point I'm suprised they don't have people like Vandril hired at MSI to lookout for bugs.

[@chaosmonkey691]

it also didnt hit the minions in mid for the most part either...

[@albertotonon4764]

You can also see the ULT got the dragon

[@Metis1337]

I think that bug is linked to the draven ult

[@mythsealaes2206]

Well I got sett ulted as jhin in arena. Was not fun playing without my passive for rest of the game

[@TmOgsable]

It looks like Razork did take damage? Weird.

[@Dragonheng]

E-Sport Titel. But it feels every game or Champ has one bug or buggy interaction

[@jvp8447]

Can try to use Nami ult Into ASol ult? I think thats the problem of espectator, maybe the no dmg bug too? 🤔 🙏🏽

[@CRAZYN1NJA]

how do you play the replay file?

[@OrihalconDE]

I just had the perfect idea for an April fools day update.

[@Sunny_2712]

3 weeks ago i was playing lux and i couldn't see q and e

[@cyanopsittax]

Milio kicked meteor back into space

[@maitreshifu12]

Crazy how when bugs occur, people don’t complain to Riot, but to Vandiril

[@TheBiggy_]

Asol is astro bugged as a champ: -his W lot of times missplaces where your cursor is not aiming. -while flying with W the Q doesn't follow the cursor -since the Q tap was removed and Q 1sec lock was enabled lot of times Q fires the other way and interrupts alone (you'll die lot of times if this happens) -Q's burst is not linked with other spells usage.. this means if u channel for half second and use any spell (maybe W for kite), you will lose the 0.5 sec progress on the burst. This means the main part of your DMG is denied by urself if u need to use YOUR KIT, hilarious.

[@karlosliskovic]

that ult is insane anyway.

[@mobius324]

K'sante so big he blocked the shockwave for lucian, a true declaration of love

[@cyarutchiii]

Are we not gonna talk about the minions not taking damage either?

[@revomouse2353]

riot testing next Asol nerf on live instead of PBE lol

[@evildarkeevildark5943]

What you expect.. from lol.. it has many bugs alot problems with radius.. some spells looks like it hits but can be a miss to..

[@Przyjemnosczgry]

Anyone else thinks riot is/should be making League 2 with updated code and engine? Long term looks like it would solve a lot of problems and give opportunity for bad systems to be reworked, sorta like GGG is doing PoE 2

[@MightyandVal]

Everyone forgetting that cool guys don't look at explosions (or get hit by them)

[@Patrick-ui4uv]

Conkeldurr pushed the hit box ?

[@ahuang2499]

vandril how are you not a Senior QA engineer at Riot Games?

[@mikeviray6152]

didnt need the chronobreak anyways GIGACHAD

[@hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.]

Asol ulted the backrooms

[@Arti_TP]

Aurelion Sol is severely bugged, his Q cancelling with no reason during W flight, Q snapping on some weird point instead of a cursor (which sometimes makes his laser be 5cm long and deal 0 damage... that's also during his W flight)

[@edgetheedgy3418]

I main Aurelion Diamond player sometimes Aurelion hoovers in the opposite direction of w that's game ruining it hasn't been fixed yet ...

[@ColtJustColt]

Milio cleansed Rylai' slowness from Lucian, I think

[@hellmans2032]

ASol used all his meteorites

[@userunnamed5204]

Somehow I feel that Poppy's ult caused this bug. Also, wasn't dmg from the Ult kinda low on Ori and Milio?

[@Vandiril]

No, it was a big chunk. Also have a look that both of them have the Aurelion R effect applied (and liandry/rylai had to be applied this way)

[@pauloseibert]

@@tunguyenkhacanh3442 Minions don't take damage from shockwave

[@imreinhard]

Not a bug, a feature. Clearly nami ult slowed down the meteor thus lowered the impact.:D

[@zeos26]

Honestly, if it wasn't for the debuffs it looks like no one got hit, does ASol's ult just not do any damage anymore? Lol

[@filipbaxa4713]

Vandiril i think i found a bug, when i (morde) ult ww at the same time he uses his q to go behind me nothing happens, like my uld cool down is up but we r not the morde space

[@Adam-pv8je]

Warwick Q blocks CC

[@zip6512]

What is he E'd over it? idk if it works but i once flashed over one

[@AuroraTheFirstLight]

It might be an elevation bug?

[@augustyuuka2895]

Some people still dont want to accept that it is an bug

[@schweinner]

give this man a spot in riot bug team

[@owafamosa7615]

Nah space dragon just saw he had the highest numbers in the fight so he didnt need the big explosions anyway

[@Yuu92296]

nah we cant fix all the bugs, must place manpower on skin making and just navigate around the spaghetti code lmao

[@kabundio2420]

dont asol wave get blocked if someone is in front

[@matteorubini6539]

Nope

[@GCOSBenbow]

I'm wondering if it somehow got blocked by nami ult? Because it looks like the minions took no damage from the shockwave either (though they were slowed by rylais).

[@Atres333]

Minions don't take damage from asol shockwave...

[@GCOSBenbow]

@@Atres333 TIL either way not sure what else couldve stopped lucian from being hit

[@patty4449]

Check the timer when Lucian should get hit by the wave, if I'm right it skips a second at that point... The timer bug has been a problem since season 1 and does impact more and more interactions in League... A Bug recently displayed by Hextech Lab is fully reliant on the timer issue as well... Actually a lot of Morde bugs and other bugs relate to this timer bug since the actions in league get queued with the timer... And having a second delay on certain things because the timer didn't tick breaks the game in a lot of ways... Please please please make riot aware that this causes tons of issues...

[@TJunChuan]

I remember last time serious bug like this would not happen in big competition, recent year literally bring all the big bugs in big stage. Riot, your priority is fix the god damn bug not keep changing item, and adding skins

[@lyzextra5891]

can we bring yasuo double knockup back and make it a mechanic it’s kinda hard to pull off in an actual game

[@metalllich3493]

Had this shit happen in ranked. Thought I just blinked and missed something. Now it turns out what my champ has 3 potentially game-ruining bugs. Aurelion Shin very imba Rioyt nerf preaze!!!