Another Mystery Box To Explore. What Vintage Model Railway Items Can We Have Some Fun With Today?

[@PaulinesPastimes]

The 5 pole conversion on the 2-6-4 sounds appealing. You are so right about not leaving them unattended. Sometimes I think my trains know when I leave the room or turn my back for a minute and they play up, it's like attention seeking behaviour 😄

[@MrSnooze]

Yes, I think they do wait for an opportunity, a bit like my dog, good whilst watched, up to mischief when unattended. Take care, all the best to you

[@davidbrigenshaw8721]

Looking forward to seeing this lovely loco running with the five pole armature!

[@MrSnooze]

I am hoping to try it out soon. All the best to you

[@monsvillerailways5736]

Nice conversion. Looks great on the Super 4 layout.

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks Mon, I'm having fun with this loco. Take care, all the best to you

[@mysticrailroad]

love that Wrenn engine! nice trains running :)

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for looking in, take care, all the best to you

[@foofydroopy]

Your example looks gorgeous! I have 2 of this as it has to be my favourite wrenn engine of all time, I think the livery just elevates it further for me

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for looking. You are right about the excellent black livery. It looks really great on the move. Take care, all the best to you

[@Madonsteamrailways]

I was absolutely right!! It most certainly is exactly what I thought it would be. And in LMS Black rather than crimson, it really is gorgeous!!

[@stewartclark1847]

Yeah, do it! You know you want to do it. Love the Wren locos.

[@MrSnooze]

I'm glad you like seeing these Wrenn items, thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@oscarpaisley]

Morning Mr Snooze, lovely, looking locomotive and seems to run very well and the lining is interesting. Take care. Oscar

[@MrSnooze]

It is interesting to see this wobbly lining, it gives the loco a bit of personality. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@RobA500]

That is a great looking locomotive, so good that whoever converted it did so as to make it easy to change back. Yes would love to see the 5 pole conversion with a comparison between the two, before and after at different speeds. All the best, Rob.

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for watching, I'm looking forward to trying that armature. Best regards to you

[@kevsdiecastrestos]

Fascinating, lovely loco, look forward to seeing it running with the 5 pole armature

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for watching the video. I shall be experimenting with this armature soon. Best regards to you

[@trainsontuesday]

What a gem Jonathan. If it was running poorly then I would say yes to a conversion but it is running superbly. I hope you try the 5 pole armature in something that is running poorly. With knuckle type couplers it is important to ensure that they are all at the same height or they will uncouple. All the best, David.

[@MrSnooze]

I have another better example of this Loco to act as a comparison. As this one has been modified in the past I'm probably going to give the armature a try. Best regards to you

[@johnbill9201]

Love to see the 5 pole in the City class and watch the improvement, thanks for sharing,John

[@MrSnooze]

I'm glad you liked the video. All the best to you

[@premikyam2726]

a fascinating idea Jonathan. to measure the current draw before and after would be instructive. w2227 would be a great locomotive to evaluate as the 5-pole armature was purchased for this item.

[@MrSnooze]

If I do a comparison I will definitely measure the current information. Thanks for watching, all the best to you

[@jimmanyk]

Can't wait for the five pole transplant🤓👏👏👍👍

[@MrSnooze]

It should be fun but I've still not decided what loco to put it in. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@patrickquinn5962]

Love to see more

[@MrSnooze]

That's great to hear. I'll see what I can do. Best regards to you

[@shedhead00]

All part of the fun random uncouplings .How about the gwr tank engine getting the 5 pole motor, would be great for pulling the tankers. All the best

[@MrSnooze]

I like your idea to make a nice powerful MT tank. all the best to you

[@Madonsteamrailways]

It’s making quite a lot of noise for a locomotive that is too old to be DCC Sound!! Brilliant!!

[@MrSnooze]

It does make a great noise. No speaker required. All the best to you

[@sanspareil3018]

Nice to see Wrenn City of Stoke on Trent……I would certainly like to see that with a 5 pole motor in. Pleased you converted the utility van, yes I am to blame for suggesting it! Just one thing with Wrenn models which I have found on some (particularly Tenders) the “stops” for Dublo couplings are not always quite the correct spacing….wonder if that could be a reason for separating if they lose tension on those reverse bends. Dublo couplings seem to run for half an hour ok then start separating. One of life’s great mysteries!

[@MrSnooze]

I've been looking at this again and the stops seem absent. I will see if I can make a small modification. I also need to slightly adjust the height of the coupling. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@Madonsteamrailways]

The City of Stoke-on-Trent locomotives is a gorgeous example of the Princess Coronation locomotive.

[@MrSnooze]

Yes, the black livery looks good. All the best to you

[@garethparkin9498]

Coming from Stoke on Trent I have this model and I love it although I built mine from bits as I couldn't afford the over inflated prices on Ebay

[@MrSnooze]

It's good to hear you like this model. I bet it was fun building up your own one. Thanks for watching, all the best to you

[@garethparkin9498]

Yeah so I bought the chassis first this had been reconditioned then the body. I initially ran it with an old Mainline Stanier tender that was spare this fit quite well actually but thought to finish it off it needed a Wrenn tender so kept an eye out and eventually found one. But as you say it was fun gathering the bits and getting a running model for the fraction of the price if you were to buy complete.

[@garethparkin9498]

I find my SOT runs really well even with a three pole. I suppose it's preference really

[@MrSnooze]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the three pole armature. They run well. I think the five pole will have a good slow start and slow running. Best regards to you

[@johnd8892]

It will be interesting to see how the Wrenn 5 pole armature performs in detail. I have seen comments over the years that it did not deliver the expected improvement. Unless people did a ham fisted conversion and lost magnetism and or the lesser known ball bearings in the motor. These days remagnetising is much more available to keen modellers thanks to Mr Dodd as is the ball bearing issue.

[@MrSnooze]

You are right about those thrust balls. If lost, a motor runs very badly. Take care, all the best to you

[@robbiesmodeltrainsinoo6459]

Hi,What another beautiful Wrenn Coronation Class loco.The City of Stoke on Trent in LMS black straw and crimson lining and wartime black livery is.I have handled most of the Wrenn Coronation engines and this black loco has to be a favourite of mine.I have handled 3 down the years and kept one ''mint boxed''for my Wrenn collection.Its a pity George Wrenn never upgraded the scale driving wheels,maybe a bit expensive.I have acquired on e bay a few old Dublo Coronations with scale Romford wheels fitted in the sixties and seventies.One LMS Atholl 2 rail convert cost me only £24 plus postage about 8 years ago.I have Wrenn Cities London BR maroon,Liverpool in LMS maroon,the Dublo 3 rail Liverpool is finished in BR maroon and an expensive item,Birmingham BR green,Glasgow in beautiful BR and the Stoke on Trent in LMS wartime black.I remember these locos retailing at £11.95 in the mid seventies.Happy memories.

[@MrSnooze]

Some great memories there. Thanks for sharing. It sounds like you have some very nice locos there too. Take care, all the best to you

[@robbiesmodeltrainsinoo6459]

Hi, No problem.Some years ago someone wrote these Wrenn locos seem to run forever.I agree if lightly oiled and carefully stored at room temperature just like yours.Best regards Robbie.@@MrSnooze

[@vernon.rogers]

It would be great to see a comparison of 3-pole and 5-pole pulling power and slow-speed running in any suitable wrenn or dublo loco - I'm sure you would apply your trademark methodical and thorough approach to the endeavour, and make an entertaining video as well. Like Martin says, perhaps choose a loco that is in need of improvement, although that wouldn't be a fair comparison, but you could still compare the 5-pole recipient with another similar good 3-pole loco, perhaps even side by side running on the two main lines if you have enough coaches (I'm pretty sure you do!)

[@MrSnooze]

That sounds like a great experiment, I shall bear it in mind. Thanks for looking, best regards to you

[@kathynewton2707]

Where did you find the city its mint they did not have to fit those pick up wires it would have run well on 3 rail .I would lever it alone and put the armature in something else like 4mt regards newwey

[@trainsontuesday]

I agree Kathy

[@hughoconnor9172]

Don't remember seeing a 5 pole upright armature before! Didn't HD normally pick up from the LH side?

[@MrSnooze]

I am thinking of doing a 4MT. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@MrSnooze]

@hughoconnor9172 Wrenn made the 5 pole version of the Dublo Armature, they didn't make a huge number of them

[@martinbrain3372]

I tend to think that if it aint broke, don't fix it, and leave the City of Stoke alone. If I had that 5 pole motor, I would put it in my most troublesome loco, or retain it for when I actually need it. Martin.

[@trainsontuesday]

My sentiments exactly Martin.

[@MrSnooze]

You could be right, I will see what other items might benefit from this armature. thanks for watching, All the best to you

[@OOElectronics]

Be very interesting to see a 5 pole comparison but I think it needs to be against a 3 pole that is running well so that any differences can be attributed to the armatures and not perhaps a poor 3 pole. I used to think 4 cylinder engines were fine until I got a 6 and I'd never go back.....

[@MrSnooze]

I might be wrong but I was lead to believe a straight six engine was almost perfectly balanced. They are very smooth. I shall devise a good test for the five pole item. Take care, all the best to you

[@OOElectronics]

@@MrSnoozeMy father believed that having had some Triumph 2000 and 2500. I had a BMW 528i in the 80s and a Volvo 960 3.0CD in the 90s and they were possibly the best cars I ever had. Presently have an SL350 V6 which also impresses. Anyway.... I'm sure you will test the 5 pole effectively! Best wishes.

[@MrSnooze]

@@OOElectronics my brother had a 2005 sl350 and really enjoyed it. I think he regrets letting it go

[@hotdogpilot6319]

I've heard of a slip coach but not a slip train.

[@trainsontuesday]

My thoughts too Hot Dog. lol.

[@MrSnooze]

Yes, lots of strange uncouplings, I shall have to check my couplings more carefully. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@forrestrobin2712]

If you don’t know what to do with that 3 rail pickup Mr S, I’d be happy to take it off your hands 😂. I have 2 Dublo City of London locos and I’d love to be able to convert one for my 3-rail layout… TBH it runs so well already, I’d leave her with her existing armature.

[@MrSnooze]

If I ever build a three rail layout, I might convert it back. It seems an easy conversion, I'm sure you will sort your City Of London soon. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@forrestrobin2712]

@@MrSnooze very cheeky of me sorry 🤦‍♀️. You are absolutely right of course. Now there’s an idea! I’d love to see you do 3-rail!!

[@Madonsteamrailways]

And it’s hardly been even used!! Very exciting!! What a wonderful model that is!! The only problem with it is that it isn’t a Southern steam locomotive, so it couldn’t really run on a Dad’s Army layout!!

[@MrSnooze]

maybe it could just visit occasionally 😊

[@Madonsteamrailways]

If you’re willing to bring it all the way to Broxbourne in Hertfordshire, it would be a great opportunity for you to show it off!!

[@MrSnooze]

@@Madonsteamrailways haha, half my comment seems to have gone astray. I tried to write: You could perhaps treat yourself to a Stoke on Trent and run it on your Dad's Army layout. As it's not a Southern loco, maybe it could just visit occasionally 🙂

[@Madonsteamrailways]

All my Pacific type locomotives are Bulleid Pacifics.