Another Small Rocket Builder Quits The Launch Market - Deep Space Updates November 15th

[@michelstoel2921]

Australian Research Space Exploration

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Sounds almost Irish.

[@Photostar625]

Australian Space Society

[@tepidtuna7450]

ARSA - Australian Research Space Agency

[@TheAceOverKings]

Commonwealth Upward Navigation and Transport

[@thekinginyellow1744]

Space Transport Facilitation United The same, but not the same.

[@luuk3731]

2:40 That engine diagram is beautiful. I always loved R-7 variant's engine placement but that display is phenomenal.

[@heavyweaponsguy21]

As an Australian I am so excited about Gilmour Space. I didn't even know they existed until last week and was just bummed out this would be yet another industry that Australia would get left behind in.

[@thomgizziz]

Gilmour Space Girls?

[@CD3WD-Project]

​@@thomgizzizyes they are just younger

[@ThorstenKreutzenberger]

You cant launch rockets in Australia, everyone knows this.

[@watsisbuttndo829]

​@@ThorstenKreutzenberger Its guaranteed success, didn't you see the shed inside a shed?. Thats some serious redundancy built in to the programme.

[@justin.w.06]

Te 12:42 gtt😮

[@carlettoburacco9235]

Sorry but I don't understand. If Boeing asks for billions to repaint some used 30 year old rocket engines they are all in. If JPL, the most reliable, innovative creators of successful projects, is on the verge of diminishing into nothing they cannot find the funds necessary to keep them afloat with dignity.

[@SilmarilS79]

Politics and Lobbies

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Boeing is apparently attempting to offload its space division.

[@jamescobban857]

SLS is absorbing billions of NASA dollars for NOTHING, but actual SCIENCE gets nothing. Of course in 2026 SpaceX is planning to launch 500 tonnes of payload to Mars. Surely JPL could package up a Mars Sample Return Mission implementation that Starship could drop off in LMO. The existing proposal must, for example, slow down to insert into LMO before entering the Martian atmosphere.

[@Krell666]

The continuing mystery of US politics...

[@elmurcis1]

It is all about profits from contracts. Not actual end product =))

[@jayeff7900]

7:33, your restraint was Priceless. You looked like You were the warhead loaded on the tip of that Minuteman, and the resultant shockwave sent a copious quantity of coffee out of my nose. I'm Still cleaning off my keyboard and monitor, thank you for that.

[@Julius_Hardware]

First US astronaut lands on the moon. Plants a flag. First Chinese astronaut lands on the moon. Plants a flag. First Australian astronaut lands on the moon. Opens a beach bar and starts making up stuff about the local wildlife.

[@mjrippe]

And all of the wildlife is poisonous.

[@bingchang553]

第一个登录月球的澳大利亚人应该是流放犯。

[@oberonpanopticon]

We’re whalers on the moon 🎶

[@nzavon]

😂

[@nesa1126]

@@mjrippe tbh Moon is more inhabitable then Australia

[@temper44]

As a European, I'm concerned that there are no EU launches. Even if we ignore the military stuff that China, US and others launch, they also launch earth observation, weather and science payloads. But what about us here in Europe? Did we stop doing science or what?

[@SilmarilS79]

Yep, you stopped investing in rockets, and the next launcher that you have will not be competitive in price, so it will slowly die...

[@T_Mo271]

No rockets, no boom.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@SilmarilS79 Simply untrue and the primary purpose of the Ariane programme is to provide independent access to space for Europe, not commercial return.

[@benfowler1134]

ESA are both incredibly badly-led, AND being held hostage by Franco-German military strategic priorities and industrial policy.

[@aprilpower1158]

Just decades of political correct selfhating leaders that wanted to open up Europe for everyone, while destroying everything we was proud of. We really need to put other peoples into office. People that want to invest into our future as a superior technological continent.

[@greatsilentwatcher]

When I was growing up during the Mercury and Gemini era, we had to wait for long periods of time to see another launch. Now, it appears to occur daily.

[@unfurling3129]

Yes, it seems like there are more rockets now which we never expected

[@Benoit-Pierre]

Spacex alone does 200 launches in 365 d, and it does less than 50% of the world. The year is not finished but I am pretty sure we have already done 400 rockets in 11 months.

[@FastSloth87]

@@Benoit-Pierre LOL no. So far, there were 214 total orbital launch attempts this year, of those, SpaceX launched 118. 113 being Falcon 9, three Starships and two Falcon Heavy.

[@mbintang5831]

Yes, and soon land on the moon is just like another landing that occur daily

[@Benoit-Pierre]

@FastSloth87 this sounds like a very small year. How can spacex feed startling needs with so few launches ???

[@leoncarcosa5299]

everytime I see those hypergolic plumes I just feel dirty for some reason.

[@casualbird7671]

I'm sure you'd feel extra dirty if you ever got near one

[@modalmixture]

I do wonder about the long-term sustainability of more and more of these plumes, hypergolic or not.

[@oberonpanopticon]

@@modalmixtureA few million tonnes of greenhouse gasses dispersed directly into the ozone layer each year never hurt anyone!

[@tissuepaper9962]

that's called "shame" and it's supposed to drive us away from antisocial behaviors like, for instance, your CEO burning a lifetime's worth of fossil fuels every 90 minutes to support his rock and roll lifestyle. Human spaceflight is one of the most conspicuous and ostentatious forms of consumption. It is an inherently dirty industry and shouldn't be looked to for a future for humanity. The future for humanity MUST start down here.

[@Wurtoz9643]

@@oberonpanopticonwhere did you get that number from

[@niftybass]

Why did Japan put "Movable Launcher" on their Movable Launcher? Is that a marketing/PR move, or did they simply have to go thru ISO-9001 certification? (if their coffee pot has the label "Coffee Pot," then probably the latter)

[@nkronert]

It's to prevent engineers from using the Stationary Launcher by mistake.

[@ScienceChap]

Thunderbirds are go!

[@pionner8208]

I'm sure Scott will skip the starlink launches at some point 🤣

[@davidjernigan8161]

Could just report them as one bunch with the dates.

[@jantjarks7946]

... and a gazillion Star Link launches from just, everywhere! 😂

[@ThomasWeinerberg]

He'll report them on Bluesky probably lol

[@nickcaraccilo14]

He basically already does.

[@4dam_314]

With Starship there will be less starlink launches. Just whole 100T of starlinks at once.

[@SueBobChicVid]

2:37 Yeah, agriculture. We'll go with that.

[@gopr3117]

Scott should call them out. It’s clearly getting overhead eyes to support their invasion of Ukraine. Nothing noble about pretending these are scientific launches.

[@nickpiernik9832]

@@SueBobChicVid 🤣🤣like double aperture radar for precipitation measurements!! 🤣🤣😹😹 🤔. 😎™️

[@ns219000]

Hey Scott, that woodsat wood make a good episode...

[@ronschlorff7089]

lol, wooden it though!! :D

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

He's made one on it long ago. (3 years ago? 4?)

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE good, yes that was long ago, and in this galaxy too! LOL

[@FredPlanatia]

Wot wood a woodsat wood if a woodsat could sat wood?

[@chaossnipermann]

scott, you are always glad! its so nice to see!:)

[@crankyoldman65]

Hmmm........interesting that the Chinese are copying Starship and Mechazilla not SLS and the Transporter/Launcher of NASA.............says volumes.........

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

What's in those volumes might vary with one's engineering background. A large hydrogen booster is currently well beyond their reach (and almost beyond Boeing's ; ). The PRC can't even duplicate what Japan's been flying for a few decades. Even copying SpaceX may be more than they can manage. My prediction, based on how other such efforts have gone for them, is something will work eventually but close to ten years behind schedule.

[@MrGeforcerFX]

Both routes require learning entire new propulsion tech for them, they have almost no experience flying full cryogenic rockets and methane would be a far better option to deal with while learning that. They have no large SRM experience and most SRM usage are just production missiles stages. SLS was just stuff we had laying around that we have 60 years of experience with, the original long march 9 proposal was basically the same thing for China.

[@TheAgamemnon911]

Says volumes about what??? The quality/reliability/ambition/costefficiency or competence of the original designers or the copycats?

[@Dumb-Comment]

..............

[@Dumb-Comment]

​@Solamendit's not that much cheaper than what NASA/Russian were using

[@frankgulla2335]

Thank you, Scott. (I ran out of new things to say long time ago.) great report and summary. Thanks for providing us with this useful and infomative service.

[@Danger_mouse]

Very excited Aussie here 😍👍 So keen to see a rocket company launch from here!

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

I am happy for you guys, too! 🍻 You have plenty of damn smart folks down there and it's good to see things happening locally for you. The _Ghost Bat_ UAV is another thing to be proud of! (made by Boeing Australia)

[@brucemckean2848]

Thanks

[@elmofeneken4364]

Catchy tune for the closing segment of the video.

[@Zippezip]

It is Master of Science the one and only Manley!

[@0x0404]

Regardless of how easy SpaceX makes it look it is still, in fact, rocket science

[@Jesse_359]

The problem is, rocket science is a few orders of magnitude simpler than life support sciences - biology, as it turns out, is insanely complex - and those are the ones we really need to do much in space. Well, with humans anyway. We can fire as many robots up there as we like.

[@mp6756]

And SpaceX doesn't have a patent on rocket science.

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Jesse_359 right, and it seems that robots don't eat much, and they can hold their breath for incredibly long periods of time!! LOL

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@mp6756 right, the old saying, "the more the merrier" probably applies here!! :D

[@SirCavas]

@@mp6756 Sure feels like it, considering that there aren't serious competitors so far

[@manythingslefttobuild]

Great update video Scott!

[@leonkernan]

SpaceX: adds grid fins for reuse. China: adds grid fins to save villages

[@brianhaygood183]

I guarantee they priced the cost of the fins against the GDP of an average village and had a meeting to decide.

[@cro-valentino]

I don't believe what China said; the grid fins are there to collect data for future reusability.

[@zognaldblormpf5127]

You scoffing at China while Americans are literally stranded in orbit is pretty funny

[@Dumb-Comment]

China had valid reasons for launching their rockets in the mountains

[@Dyson_Cyberdynesystems]

@@zognaldblormpf5127 You know damned well they were never stranded. I would have thought that someone on this channel would know better...

[@angelarch5352]

Aww I'm so sad about Skylon getting cancelled D: RIP Skylon

[@oberonpanopticon]

It’s not like it was going anywhere anyways

[@matthewcox7985]

Got to love RocketLab's choice of launch names. Raise a margarita to Jimmy Buffett.

[@cerewaffle900]

Love what you do Scott, keep it up!

[@josephoneill7656]

I look forward to NASA Administrator Kid Rock :P

[@scottmanley]

‘Space cadet’

[@rorykeegan1895]

About right considering his other appointments.

[@josephoneill7656]

@@rorykeegan1895 I know. He'll be launching skyrockets out the back window of the clown-car.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

My money is on Kim Jong Un, he is the "Rocket Boy" after all.

[@physicswithpark3r-x3x]

@@Steven-vo4ee he will be calling the shots for this cabinet

[@roloughlin212]

Definitely had an immature moment of laughter when Scott named the two new Taichonauts heading to space. Reminded me of DeNiro's bit on SNL.

[@elmargreeff2726]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had a giggle

[@simian_essence]

Copying Spacex makes perfect sense. You get to compete and save on R&D costs at the same time. What surprises me is that more players aren't doing it.

[@T_Mo271]

I wonder if SpaceX maintains two sets of plans; one they actually use behind a tight firewall, and another set with subtle flaws that they don't bother to treat with great security.

[@mp6756]

You guys are thinking too heavily

[@thecheeseburgerking2624]

Yeah plus with another European starship copy ive seen it feels like everyone is just building their own starship now

[@CharlesFreck]

Because the re-usability of Starship is what is so good. And you can't just copy the software behind vertical landing. You can't copy the materials, you have to make those yourself. Yeah, you can copy the blueprints, but that's only 20% of the work. The other 80% still needs to be done, and if you're not actually good enough to do that first 20%, then you probably can't figure out the other 80%.

[@simian_essence]

@ 20% is better than 0%. As for making stuff yourself, China has been doing that for a long time now. People copy because it's clearly the easiest and fastest way to operate. Being the pioneer, the path finder - that's difficult.

[@1010Crackers]

Hadn't heard that WISE had gone, damn it was also useful outside of our solar system! Collected great photometry of galaxies too, used it in my final year project!

[@prolfinator]

Those lunar rovers sure add some weight to style over function.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

So it wasn't just me. I'm looking at that thing and thinking "Why not just rad-harden a 1963 Cadillac? It would probably weigh less."

[@sampfalcon5128]

Loving the new outro music

[@robert8]

I am not sure of this but many sceptics did not believe it. The latest CRS cargo ship boosted the ISS. Even I was sceptical, but damn, SpaceX crafts is turning to be a all-rounder spacecraft.

[@rzero21]

17:38 I wouldn't be surprised if CCP targeted SpaceX and stole some documents (or ALL of it) to copy the Starship program.

[@Wiredpenguin]

Pete Warden would be the best pick for NASA administrator in my opinion he did such a good job with NASA AMES and only really stepped down because he was rustling too many feathers in the bureaucracy

[@padders1068]

Thanks Scott! Great Video! 🙂😎🤓

[@HeidiLandRover]

Scott, the audio sounds a little muffled on this one. Otherwise superb as usual.

[@garethbond3631]

Cheers for the content. 🍻

[@tedthedragonslayerholliday7077]

Did you have any updates on New Glenn, other than the two half's being mated together?

[@EMichaelBall]

It’s Blue Origin. What are you expecting?

[@codemonkey2k5]

Like the new outro!

[@UrbanImposter]

My money is on Jebediah Kerman for next NASA admin.

[@T_Mo271]

He and Val are both over-qualified to serve in the upcoming administration.

[@khyron6]

Scott U Rock. Thanks

[@jerwahjwcc]

You don't have to check yo' staging if you don't have any staging...

[@richardreel]

Like the exit music!

[@Apature-Science]

Its honestly crazy that we live in a time with so many different rocket competitors, hopefully we will see even more big ones come up sometime soon.

[@weasle2904]

So thank you to SpaceX for kicking the industry in the butt with superior launch vehicles.

[@cube2fox]

There will soon be much more medium/heavy lift rocket supply than there is demand to fly payloads to orbit. Once New Glenn, Starship, Neutron, Terran R and others are available, some of those companies will struggle to find customers.

[@weasle2904]

@@cube2fox I partially disagree. The primary limiting factor to space ventures have been cost to orbit.

[@clayel1]

@@cube2foxfalcon 9 has shown that there is a massive demand for medium to heavy satellites

[@Jesse_359]

Nah. The new administration will move to curtail any attempt at competition with SpaceX and grant them an effective monopoly on space launch. That's what Musk paid for, and it's what he's going to get, clearly. Same thing will happen with the only real tarriffs on China will be in electric vehicles (protection for Tesla), and Photovoltaics (protection for fossil fuels). The incoming administration has made it blindingly clear that they are Pay-to-Play, and that's just how it's going to be.

[@jeffbuckles]

Hope that RocketLab Electron didn't experience too much aerodynamic buffeting during launch...

[@wk8219]

The way you pronounced Cai Xuzhe sounds suspiciously similar to Keyser Söze.

[@travisw9071]

Im confused as to why those 2 taikonauts were not members with New Shepard

[@krist6074]

There's nothing wrong with copying other designs, it just means that it's a great design that more people believe in. I remember when SpaceX came out with this design and called it the BFR, they got a lot of people laughing about it and that it couldn't be done. It's the same thing with these electric vehicles, you see them more and more every day! Thanks for sharing sir!

[@nickfosterxx]

Not a copy, just 'inspired by'!

[@nickfosterxx]

Evolution vs Intelligent Design.

[@raze370]

Can you explain the naming convention of starlink? 'Group 66-77' what do the numbers represent?

[@maverick9708]

Wow, lot of these Chinese spacecraft are looking suspiciously familiar 😂

[@jtjames79]

Mockery is the highest form of flattery. 😂 But seriously, good for them. A good idea is a good idea.

[@maverick9708]

@jtjames79 for real, they are working g smarter and not harder

[@matth8081]

They rarely have an original idea.

[@IMBlakeley]

Form follows function

[@weasle2904]

It seems the Chinese are incapable of coming up with their own ideas.

[@blshouse]

Thirty-four?! They're practically babies!

[@lyledal]

Iranian sats for "Earth monitoring." I guess that's one way of phrasing it.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

They have the right to defend themselves

[@jantjarks7946]

Imagine a country that unilaterally quits agreements with your country and votes in the very person to not honor a deal. You too would watch them very closely. And not only that. And if you wouldn't, you wouldn't be in charge for long anyways. 😉

[@ThatOpalGuy]

@jantjarks7946 it's what vlad wants

[@jantjarks7946]

Different topic.

[@LuMaxQFPV]

@@ThatOpalGuy No. No, they really don't.

[@anthonybernstein1626]

Why does a synthetic aperture radar satellite need to be in a sun synchronous orbit?

[@MrJdsenior]

Same as the defense industry in the US. The small ones that last, in a given country, anyway, will eventually end up just one or two.

[@LordOceanus]

That was more an after effect of the end of the cold war and the massive level of industry contraction that followed leading to mergers. You can only have so many suppliers as you have contracts available for them to win.

[@jonathanzimmer8143]

Most have no idea what they're even building.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@LordOceanus Yes, and no. A lot of the companies were ones that were mostly subcontractors to more major companies, anyway, and just got sucked up by them. Then there were the major mergers, where both halves brought a lot to the table, like the one I worked for, ultimately Lockheed Martin, on the Martin side. I remember Norm Augustine, a Martin president, saying almost 5 decades back that that was going to be the case, his analogy was the Detroit big three, at the time.

[@Jesse_359]

Pity. The one thing that Adam Smith warned against most strenuously in his treatise on capitalism in The Wealth of Nations was the need to prevent consolidation and monopolization of markets by cartels and singularly powerful companies.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@Jesse_359 Yup, and monopoly laws seem to be getting weaker every year. Consolidation has both pluses and minuses, like most things, but ultimately, I think it limits creativity to some degree. To the companies there are some economy of scale benefits, I guess. One that worries me the most right now is food production. That is downright DANGEROUS, in several respects.

[@MimeHTF5]

Your forgot the new rocket propoasels from Arianegroub and RFA

[@vbscript2]

I'm kind of surprised that you say the election didn't go as you expected. The outcome was pretty much exactly what I was expected, aside from maybe an additional Senate pickup or two for Republicans. All 7 swing states going the way they did had seemed like the most likely outcome from polling averages for at least several weeks before the election. The only real surprises to me were 1) how fast Florida got their votes counted and 2) how wide the margin was in Texas.

[@mrzoinky5999]

Enjoy the last two months of democracy in America.

[@bryanb3352]

@@mrzoinky5999 yeah.. no more democracy since more than half the country pushed the button for a person you don't like for reasons you can't even explain lol

[@bryanb3352]

people that think they're smarter than others are always surprised

[@Steven-vo4ee]

The margins of MI, WI and PA are all

[@TheMeepster72]

@@mrzoinky5999 Right, because rolling back the power of unelected bureaucrats is ending democracy. I've found that what people really mean when they say "threat to democracy" is threat to the establishment.

[@davecarsley8773]

0:25 What's falling off the Chinese rocket there? Doesn't look like the typical ice we see on launches of most boosters.

[@NOLAfugee]

What's the story behind the panels falling off Chinese rockets at launch?

[@alexsiemers7898]

It’s only used for insulating cryogenic fuels before launch, by shedding it immediately after takeoff they shed the extra mass and thus can put more into orbit

[@jxmai7687]

From you question, just show how low you are.

[@Yorin1]

​​@@jxmai7687 The only thing that shows is your insecurity. Don't overreact, it was a perfectly legitimate question. Most rockets in other countries don't have that feature, so it seems strange to people who don't know about it.

[@jxmai7687]

@@Yorin1No, you are wrong as him, Chinese is not the only one did that, US is the first one to did that, look at the Space Shuttle. If you don't have the knowledge please don't misleading other people here. I am answer to him why did he want a story for it, why can not simply ask as a normal question.

[@rh9909]

I would like to add to previous answer: yes they are insulating foam panels. However they could be for hypergolic (like for LM-2 family), mainly for insulating N2O4. they boil in the 40-ish C if my memory serves correct.

[@tjav001]

I’m disappointed that they did not send up Si Mi Dong. He’s such a decorated astronaut on that Temu rocket.

[@robcat2075]

0:28 what are the plates peeling off eh Chinese rocket?

[@richardkindred279]

Ice

[@rh9909]

Insulating foam panels for N2O4. Designed to fall off, you can see that in all older hypergolic LM family (e.g. LM-2) launch.

[@T_Mo271]

It's the rocket that disassembles itself on purpose.

[@kanadiankid2591]

It’s Chinese it does that

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@richardkindred279 please don't trigger some people that way!! LOL

[@sailorgeer]

Hey Scott, great content as usual :) Perhaps you have commented on this before, but at 4:55 why do the Chinese rockets shed large pieces of debris seconds after launch? I thought maybe it was condensation ice from the cryogenic surfaces, but most of the debris seems to come from the payload fairing which is presumably at ambient temperature and wouldn’t form ice on the surface.

[@AzumiLP]

They're insulation panels.

[@simongeard4824]

He's done an entire video on the subject before.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

So Dong and Wang flew to space together

[@karlbrundage7472]

Now if they could only rendezvous with the SNATCH, GROWLER, BEAVER or COOTER missions.

[@simonmackenzie6230]

They did a great orbital insertion manoeuvre.

[@dannydaw59]

There's that 1980s pop song with "Everybody Wang Chung tonight". Now it's "Everybody Wang Dong tonight".😅

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@simonmackenzie6230 what's next Tran's lunar injection, yikes!! ;D

[@deanwatts68]

I came here to congratulate Scott for resisting the urge to emphasize the fact that Dong and Wang are heading to space together 😅

[@maequackers5397]

why does that falcon 9 seem to have a blue plume? 3:05

[@maequackers5397]

my best guess is that it's only visible top-down, and that it's the blue-glowing lighter engine exhaust products that are being pulled higher by low air pressure than the orange-glowing relatively-heavy carbon.

[@PC-nf3no]

I'm actually glad to see others copying the Space X concepts. They don't have the plans, specs, or codes so it's not a true copy. They still have to do their own development. But if we are ever going to be a space faring society, we will need a lot more access to space than just Space X. It is my hope that these companies, even the Chinese so long as it is for peaceful purposes, actually make a profit so they and others will want to invest more.

[@imaginary_friend7300]

Those with a superficial understanding see a superficial resemblance as proof of copying all the way down the nuts and bolts.

[@PC-nf3no]

@@imaginary_friend7300 I think most people are just so impressed and hopeful with Space X accomplishments that maybe they don't see the natural progression. Pointy end always up, Flamey end always down.

[@simongeard4824]

@@imaginary_friend7300 The problem is that *outwardly*, the copy is so blatant. Actually building it would take a great deal of development and would probably end up looking more distinct... but the renderings don't even pretend to any originality; they just found some Starship models online and stuck Chinese flags on them.

[@Nanocology]

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Elon probably just smiled at the awkwardness of the (superficially) obvious copying but is just glad that another bunch of humans are reaching outwards for the stars

[@5nowChain5]

Nothing the CCP does is for peacefull purposes.

[@markrix]

Why wood? Im sure there has to be a reason other than cool points?

[@cerealport2726]

Very happy to see Gilmour Space get a mention. As an Aussie, I'm really looking forward to this.

[@tfrowlett8752]

At least for the next super heavy launch it’s at 7am for me instead of 9pm like the previous launches

[@awilliams1701]

I'll be surprised if SLS-3 ever flies. I hope it doesn't. It's a waste of money.

[@peraltarockets]

Musk vs. Southern Republican Senators is a fight where everyone but Musk and the Southern Senators lose.

[@awilliams1701]

@@peraltarockets even if it's not starship, I'll bet BO can be more cost effective. Hopefully we'll see theirs soon.

[@pythontf188]

If we want to be china to the moon artemis 3 will use sls

[@mp6756]

If sls flights don't continue, China wins the moon.

[@Thethyck4445]

It will probably waste more money if it has materials and parts ready to go and it just gets thrown away it's like buying a house and throwing the house away because you might get a better house in the future.

[@Esgaldu]

would be nice to hear weight of payloads if avaible bout these launches please

[@bartsanders1553]

Loved the flying live stream.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

@bartsanders1553 it was fun. It also showed the difficulties of in flight entertainment.

[@thePretendgineer]

What's even happening with Mars Sample Return? I haven't heard anything in quite a while.

[@Context0233]

4:53 hawk tuah

[@timpointing]

So, what's with the peeling cladding on the first launch video Long March 2 f/g. It appears that the 3rd glyph changed as a result of the reveal. Google translate is only so good - can somebody let me know what the before and after translation is?

[@SpencerSimpson-l4v]

4:53, say that again...

[@kenshi_cv2407]

those who know:

[@benjaminhanke79]

AI makes everything worse! Why did the algorithm refuse to transcribe "π Rocket" correctly two times in a row? It skips two syllables and it becomes "Pat". KZbins auto generated subtitles worked much better before chatgpt was released.

[@sarkaranish]

mangoes?

[@dfgdfg_]

End card music too loud

[@joyl7842]

7:45 to me that makes sense. Last time a significant global event (the Olympics) ended, the next day Russia attempted a Blitzkrieg on its neighboring country Ukraine.

[@danielkrcmar5395]

Does anyone know what the panels that fell off that first Chinese rocket were?

[@martythemartian99]

11:40 Australia was one of the last three OECD countries to actually have a Space Agency. People high in science and engineering have been calling for one since the early 70's, but both major political parties here just didn't give a f... er... a stuff and were more interested in dumb tech (ie: dig it out of the ground and sell it to China). They finally woke up when NZ started its Space Agency and they realised how backward we were. It still goes on here with the slow switch to renewables and the adoption of EVs. Save us all from 19th century minded politicians.

[@badgerello]

Australia has been at the forefront of scientific development for decades so I find this attitude a bit self deprecating. Not having a space program is irrelevant as with most non-superpowers we had no need, ability or funds for one - we just collaborated with their agencies. Like New Zealand we have only adopted one in order to provide a framework for governance in a burgeoning commercial environment. It’s not rocket science.

[@martythemartian99]

@@badgerello Mmmm... well.... no. Please allow me to break down your reply. 1 "Australia has been at the forefront of scientific development for decades so I find this attitude a bit self deprecating." I agree we have been at the forefront, but that is not the problem. I was saying that we have been held back by our politicians... and we have. 2 "Not having a space program is irrelevant as with most non-superpowers we had no need, ability or funds for one - we just collaborated with their agencies." Actually, most non-superpowers DO have a Space Agency specifically to deal with the likes of NASA, JAXA and ESA. Our industry, universities and institutions have had great difficulty in working with others overseas because of this. There was a system in place since the 60's where any countries industry, universities or institutions who wanted to collaborate with those overseas, would go through the local Space Agency to do so. I have heard many people from places like the CSIRO say that when they tried to work with OS operations, they were asked to go through the Australian Space Agency, which then did not exist. When the OS people were told we had no such agency, they were truly stunned. 3 "Like New Zealand we have only adopted one in order to provide a framework for governance in a burgeoning commercial environment." What you have said here is true, but that is why I say we are about 50 years late to the party. For decades now, those who wanted to seriously work in space science, study and industry, have been held back in Australia, so many have gone OS to work. This is why the first two Australian born Astronauts had to fly as American citizens, with American flags on there suits, because they could not and did not actually represent Australia in space. There is an even worse history of Aust. Gov. holding us back in exchange for a quick buck in primary production. This is just one small example. We did not need to spend billions on building rockets back in the 70's, all we needed was an office with Aust. Space Agency on the door to assist Universities, industry and the CSIRO to work easily on the world stage.

[@benfowler1134]

Unfortunately that's what happens when the country is run by reactionary farmers and suburban lawyers for far too long. Aspiration and ambition dies.

[@jackdbur]

There are less than 27 million Australians & in 1980 there were less than 16 million Australians where were/are the funds to run a space agency with? 😅

[@martythemartian99]

@@jackdbur Smaller, poorer countries had Space Agencies back then. It only needed to be a office to act as a go-between for Australian industry and academia, and other Space Agencies around the world. This would have allowed more Australians to work on space systems and satellites, instead of having to move overseas to do so. Try googling List of Government Space Agencies.

[@Flapswgm]

What is all the Debrie that keeps falling off the Chinese rockets? Are they covering up something on the ground so no one will take a picture?

[@PapaOscarNovember]

I think orbital launch vehicle design is entering an 'era of certainty.' This happened with big gun battleships at the end of 19th century. Passenger airplane is currently in a similar era: everyone is building twin-engine low wing configurations. I suspect all launchers will converge on Falcon 9 or Starship configurations in the near future.

[@kenoliver8913]

Yep. In biology it is called "evolutionary convergence" - same process.

[@andrewj22]

Does anyone really care about knowing *_every single_* rocket launch? Run-of-the-mill starlink launches seem wholly uninteresting.

[@tonyarcus]

Didn't come out as expected?Who do you watch Scott? It was not even close.

[@imaginary_friend7300]

That's not what the polls leading in where saying though. It looked neck and neck.. which likely tells you more about polls than anything.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

MI, PA and WI are all within 2%, so very close and could have easily gone the other way.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@imaginary_friend7300 The polls had a margin of error of 3-4% and the final result was

[@aprilpower1158]

@@imaginary_friend7300Yeah because polls was so right the past two elections lol.

[@MAGABeard]

​@@imaginary_friend7300 Actual results. Lies, damned lies and statistics.

[@ebrock1972]

Scott you're a Scottish man you will never run out of expletives to say LoL 🤣

[@angrylittlespider4593]

NASA: sorry, JPL , we won't be flying much more of your hardware anytime soon. SpaceX: hold my beer. Just a hunch.

[@ImieNazwiskoOK]

So, Space Exploration Company finally investing in space exploration(not transportation)? Of their favourite planet too

[@loo_ping]

new nasa administrator: Jebediah Kerman

[@pfilippone]

Our grandparents grew up at the advent of the airline industry. Now our kids are growing up at the advent of space commercialization. We all say it "never gets old" to watch a rocket take off and land. One day this will be a common and mundane occurrence as an airline flight is today.

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

It’s already happening in Florida. Traffic up and down the coast would come to a halt with shuttle launches, not anymore. Now it has to be a significant mission to get people’s attention.

[@neatoburrito5839]

Airplane flights still never get old though tbf

[@Little908]

@@neatoburrito5839i think what they mean is that you dont really watch every single airliner liftoff

[@physicswithpark3r-x3x]

@@Little908 I think that about the 5th or 6th time they put men on the moon, folks had lost their appetite for following the mission via a live feed. there was a lingering interest in live reports on the reentry part of the mission, presumably because this offered the prospect of a gruesome end for the crew people, eh?

[@theobserver9131]

It's already pretty mundane to me. I'm only interested in bold new advancements. The mechzilla thing is pretty amazing! and I loved the tandem landing of two boosters.

[@steveskouson9620]

Changes in latitude. changes in attitude. Scott, are you a Jimmy Buffett fan? steve

[@busybillyb33]

7:36 "Test farting"

[@jackdowling4606]

What UK time is Starship launching on Monday 18th November.

[@Lu.capuchino]

on tuesday, 10 pm

[@genev7126]

Does anyone else have the compulsion to always salute Scott when he first appears after the intro rolls? Someone tell me it's not just me and the voices in my head....

[@martythemartian99]

I fear it may just be you, but at least the voices are telling you to salute, and not kiss his sexy bald head.😍

[@gsmontag]

This very episode I saluted WFIRST/NEOWISE, but I'm sure I've saluted Mr. Manley before.

[@CaptainRon1913]

It's just you

[@MarcinKryszak]

I don't salute commies

[@genev7126]

@@CaptainRon1913 Thanks for clearing that up champ.

[@H0Fidelity-rq4ry]

I have a Space Engine idea for you. Build a reflector that has the same angular size as the sun so that we have constant sunlight.

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

Like the Russians did in the 90s? 😅 I seem to recall that being deemed a "bad idea" but unfortunately I can't recall why...

[@TurdfurgusonJr]

you can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need.... even if you don't realize it at the time

[@robertw.anderson6102]

Lots of good info. By the way!

[@erfquake1]

Okay, Protosat constellation, Starlink constellation, Blue Origin's constellation, China's constellation....this is a problem. LEO is not set aside for billionaires to get richer at the expense of everyone else's need to access space. Collisions and debris contamination are bad for everyone involved.

[@jacobhansen8015]

Absolutely. Space is big, but we do need to care about space debris and these overlapping in use and shell/altitude constellations

[@markwebcraft]

What is your solution? Only allow SpaceX to do this? That doesn't seem right either... It wouldn't be so bad if we had a solution to cleaning up space debris.

[@gavinregier6177]

As long as they keep their satellites in low orbits, and with ample control and ability to deorbit themselves, any collisions should be avoidable, and debris would clear out in a few years

[@memorychip1]

Wall-E is about to become a full on reality

[@aerostorm_]

SpaceX is doing like 3 different constellations, not just starlink. Also the LEO shell is like 200+ million cubic kilometers. Debris will be something that is considered, but LEO allows things to burn up pretty quickly as well.

[@donjones4719]

9:07 To me the crucial gap in NASA's announcement that they now know the basis of the heat shield problem is the lack if any info as to how to fix it. If the fix is straightforward then NASA would have happily shared it. IMO they don't want to announce the basic problem because that'll be a dead giveaway that the fix will take a lot of engineering and time. NASA wants a handle on managing that message to B.S. about the timeline.

[@obsidianjane4413]

Its a credit to Shotwell that she has kept Musk from twittering SpaceX for over 20 years.

[@YuenanCao]

NPC

[@bryanb3352]

Twittering? What does that even mean? He bought it and his side won everything and now he's going to be leading DOGE lol. What a screw up!! lol

[@obsidianjane4413]

@@bryanb3352 If you can't figure out what that means, just imagine what else you are ignorant of.

[@bryanb3352]

@@obsidianjane4413 of course you have no answer. You're trying to cast the buy as some sort of failure when it was an enormous success.

[@obsidianjane4413]

@@bryanb3352 Enormous success... How much value has Twitter lost since Musk bought it? How many users, advertisers, and companies have stopped using it?

[@jackdbur]

Wasn't BO supposed to launch New Glenn around this date? They just mated their rocket halves ? Their still to do all the test fires & wet dress rehearsal? Glacial progress aint getting you to orbit. 😊

[@Steven-vo4ee]

As things stand it should be imminent.

[@imaginary_friend7300]

Better to get it right than be quick. THINK. Or at least try.

[@vladimirdyuzhev]

Scott talks for 20 minutes, makes a 10 seconds note on elections in passing, and half of the comments are about it. 🙄

[@ronschlorff7089]

Yup, it might be on our Minds; those still with them,... and some now without them! ;D LOL

[@mattjohnson9753]

@@vladimirdyuzhev - Marxism and Socialism are important topics.

[@RechargeableLithium]

They're only important topics for the basement dwellers that think they can misdirect the rest of us from actual fascism, eh Matt?

[@Niightblade]

Huge amounts of money in space programs and they can't afford stabilised cameras? I don't understand!