Antennas 101 / How does an antenna work

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@JaronLatona
@JaronLatona 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video but SO HELPFUL. Super informative, easy to understand, not long winded...and amazing use of a bagel to explain a concept! Thank you so much - loved it!
@0033mer
@0033mer 2 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@jeanJenner
@jeanJenner 7 жыл бұрын
Underrated video! I'm a ham and I wish I had viewed this video when I first started. Thanks for explaining antennas in such an easy way to understand. Keep them coming.
@jeanJenner
@jeanJenner 7 жыл бұрын
N2FLA...
@quebirt
@quebirt 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. 6 years later, still underrated. It's not exactly a master-class, but it hits the important pieces for getting 90% there, which is better than watching a master-class for hours, missing most of the concepts, and trying to apply them to get a workable antenna. One formula, and a simple modable design.
@uwuowo4856
@uwuowo4856 5 ай бұрын
I didnt understand shit... I think im too young
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn 6 жыл бұрын
I got my FCC First Class RT Operator license in 1980, but antennas were always a weak point for me. This video bought a lot back, and made a lot clear to me. Nicely done, sir.
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback ... glad it helped!
@amandhakal8939
@amandhakal8939 5 жыл бұрын
I became clear to the concept of impedance matching after watching this video after listening to the word almost for 6 years without any logic. Wow dude... you did great.
@ejmakela7525
@ejmakela7525 7 жыл бұрын
Using a bagel to describe a radiation pattern is super clever.
@sheldonspringer6426
@sheldonspringer6426 6 жыл бұрын
bagelectrical 101
@EC-ol8nz
@EC-ol8nz 6 жыл бұрын
Very Large Bagel 👍😆
@thomashardin911
@thomashardin911 6 жыл бұрын
Now I know why pigs love ham radios! Think of all those calories!!! S#1t!
@thomashardin911
@thomashardin911 6 жыл бұрын
reverse thrust very good question, he probably likes ham radio too.
@unlokia
@unlokia 6 жыл бұрын
He certainly used his loaf ;)
@roberthousedorfii1743
@roberthousedorfii1743 7 жыл бұрын
Please make more antenna videos! You just explained to me in 8 freakin minutes what no one else has explained to me in 20 years of casual investigation. PHYSICAL demonstrations of the antenna wiring beat every damn virtual/whiteboard drawing EVERY DAY. THANK YOU SIR! I finally actually understand WTF a dipole antenna actually is, in real life... Oh, and YEAH, what the ground plane stuff is for also!!!! 73, KD2OQN
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help.
@CLoak183
@CLoak183 5 жыл бұрын
@@0033mer how did you learn this when many of us have struggled for years trying to get our heads wrapped around how an antenna functions?
@maffysdad
@maffysdad 6 жыл бұрын
I've watched many videos over time, read books, but have never understood my CB antenna(s), I'm not stupid, I just never found one that made sense, so I was happy to follow the rule that as long as I could get the SWR below 1.5 by adjusting the length of the 'top' part, it was good!. This video made some sense, it helped me understand concepts I wasn't sure about. The way the power is radiated, how and why the cable can be as long as the aerial, but that it's the shield that reflects the power from the center back into itself, split the two, go opersite ways and you've got less reflection, split the shield part further and you get a ground plane, So simple it actually made sense rather than the drawing in books of a upside down triangle! My D-Pole was the best by far, 10mls, and when there was 'skip' I got to chat to people in other countries! But, OMG! I actually have some understanding now! Seriously, this is like the basic 101 that I needed to kick my ass into gear in to wanting to learn and understand this topic rather than just getting the lowest SWR, I hope now to be able to look for another video or wait for you to produce one which can explain CB antennas, base loaded, mag mount vs through hole grounded, you really did a amazing video there... not too much maths, just enough to help... Thank you soooooo much!
@shanejustice6414
@shanejustice6414 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent description of the EM field generated by the monopole and dipole, as well as gain antennas! Great use of visual aids!
@rudykay5618
@rudykay5618 Жыл бұрын
Well explained. Demo much easier to understand than other videos. Good job
@0033mer
@0033mer Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bobwarren3898
@bobwarren3898 6 жыл бұрын
Antenna theory is one of the most interesting 'mystery sciences' there is. They just don't work according to 'normal' electrical theory and many people just don't understand that.
@teechui2401
@teechui2401 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir - very nice demonstration and explanation. Just one slight correction I would humbly offer: around 2:40 you refer to maximum power transfer from a stereo amplifier to a loudspeaker. This may be the case in vacuum tube designs but in most solid state designs the amplifier is made to behave as a voltage source, and usually has an equivalent output impedance of milliohms. The designation of 4 or 8 ohms you may see on the speaker terminals of an audio amplifier relates to the design limits of the output stage and to the current and voltage capability of the amplifier to deliver its rated power to a load of a given impedance before either running out of current or voltage. Therefore, it does not exactly relate to the typical RF power amplifier or signal generator, where the output impedance is matched to the rated load impedance for maximum power transfer.
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response.Yes .. In a vacuum tube amplifier the tubes drive a impedance matching transformer so the speaker load is important for maximum power transfer. These are the days I remember. Solid state class A/B amplifiers are more flexible about speaker impedance and we match more for distortion than power transfer. With the new class D power amplifiers however the output low pass filter needs to see a proper speaker load for power and frequency response. For someone who is new to antenna operation I simply used the stereo speaker output example as something they can relate to.
@ThePhillipnielsen
@ThePhillipnielsen 5 жыл бұрын
I just learned more about antennas watching this video, than I did the last couple of years reading forum posts on it... Excellent may I say
@kidbach
@kidbach 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is five years late, but that was the best video presentation of antenna pract app. You sir, should write a book, (failing that, at least more videos) expeditiously. Thanks for sharing. KC3UEE
@0033mer
@0033mer 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@fredschroyer584
@fredschroyer584 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a fine, clear, imaginative presentation! Best I've seen. You are a gifted teacher!
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@ricardosuarez8023
@ricardosuarez8023 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Very clear explanation. Easy to understand even for a non-native speaker like myself.
@kevindai1000
@kevindai1000 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a rf engineer and worked on antenna in the past. Typically when you make an dipole or monopole antenna, you should connect your antenna to a VNA and check your return loss(s11), and make sure it is tuned to the right frequency. The actual size of the antenna is shorter than the calculated value because of fringing effect.
@0033mer
@0033mer 4 жыл бұрын
The antenna was trimmed using an Anritsu S412E for best return loss. Fringe fields only apply to Microstrip/Patch antennas. With a wire monopole the Velocity factor (Vf) has to be taken in consideration for proper antenna size. The velocity factor is already taken care of in the formula for constructing the radiator and ground plane radials.
@mastercontrol2461
@mastercontrol2461 2 жыл бұрын
@@0033mer rotflmao ,,,,,, You The Man!!!!!! ,,,,,, I've been reading some of the replies,,,, some of these folks need to check themselves before attempting to check you,,, Thank you for taking them back to school! it's been confirmed, you that guy !!!!!
@ReevansElectro
@ReevansElectro 6 жыл бұрын
I tried putting bagels on my antennas and got less power. Will doughnuts improve my transmission or reception? Are crescents any good?
@pspkutube
@pspkutube 2 ай бұрын
Great video. How does one measure impedance changes as the wires are bent down?
@0033mer
@0033mer 2 ай бұрын
Check out this video around 4:22. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH7NcpKpaJV6aKs
@pspkutube
@pspkutube 2 ай бұрын
@@0033mer Ah the VNA tool! Thank you!!!!!
@0033mer
@0033mer 2 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@krisraps
@krisraps 4 жыл бұрын
This Video REALLY Helped Me To Understand HOW Antennas Work.
@kundaig3833
@kundaig3833 10 ай бұрын
Learning about antennas, also never had a bagel but those look nice
@espenskog8745
@espenskog8745 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Very well explained. Especially that you bend the radials to 45 degrees to match the 50 Ohm impedance --- now I get it. Thank you :)
@0033mer
@0033mer 8 ай бұрын
You're welcome. If you want to see that type of antenna on an analyzer check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYOQY5Zui8yopKs Thanks for the visit.
@TheDutchGuyOnYT
@TheDutchGuyOnYT Жыл бұрын
5:10 the input impedance will change of you bend the exposed parts to the black (like 120-130 degrees), more like 50 Ω then
@asliceofthemiscellaneous
@asliceofthemiscellaneous 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to buy the chassis mount female connector?
@0033mer
@0033mer 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Digi-key, they carry the whole range of RF connectors. www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/amphenol-rf/82-97-RFX/ARFX1023-ND/21820
@UnExpertoEnNada
@UnExpertoEnNada 6 жыл бұрын
90 seconds into the video, I already loved the donnut or bagel analogy ! Thanks !
@fer_fdi
@fer_fdi 3 жыл бұрын
For the antenna shown at 6:39, would be ok to use something like Plasti Dip compound to protect it from elements? I mean, would sillicone decrease the effectivity of the antenna? And BTOH, would sillicone be conductive enough to short main pole and ground poles?
@0033mer
@0033mer 3 жыл бұрын
I have used Humiseal conformal coating with success but you would have to check if Plasti Dip is conductive. Check out this video at about minute 6 where I test the antenna with a VNA. You would have to do a before/after measurement to see if VSWR increases or Impedance changes after Plasti Dip is applied. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYOQY5Zui8yopKs
@fer_fdi
@fer_fdi 3 жыл бұрын
@@0033mer Excellent, thank you. I think PlastiDip is vinil, I would not care on an audio circuit but I have no idea how would it behave at 500-600MHz. So I will follow your indications (although I think I wont be able to measure high freq stuff with my equipment)
@Dvyne59
@Dvyne59 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation on Dipole antennas and the formula are really pertinent. Thanks!!
@girl4632
@girl4632 Жыл бұрын
Plz answer my questions ASAP. I want to know do there is a antenna tht very tiny something like 10^(-3) m, with very narrow beam reaching inosphere. beam so narrow tht it rarely expand when reaches inosphere giving pure one to one connection. Explanation was the best and easiest. By now i have this doubt.
@surfcirca
@surfcirca 3 ай бұрын
Alright 2 years after the last comment, yes, helpful thank you! Honestly though, when you brought that bagel out, I lost it! and, realized I was on the right channel.
@rickytomatoes
@rickytomatoes 3 ай бұрын
Nicely done, the bagel demonstration was clever. Question: would a Yagi-Uda antenna be effective at focusing a 2.4GHz signal at a distance?
@electronics.unmessed
@electronics.unmessed Жыл бұрын
👍 nice presentation, I like the demonstration using the Donat. But seriously, I like the practical views on how to create a simple antenna.
@0033mer
@0033mer Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@SteveWrightNZ
@SteveWrightNZ 6 жыл бұрын
A really good absolute-beginners antenna video.
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV 6 жыл бұрын
AWE - Video ended too soon :( I was learning so much. --- More videos like this please :D
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Check out this video on antenna construction: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJa4lqufndd-kLM
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV 6 жыл бұрын
thank you :)
@Karspa247
@Karspa247 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos , informative. Im not so good at electronics and need some help. I have a Sony AIR-7 Scanner radio with Air ,PSB
@NoYoureBeautiful
@NoYoureBeautiful 3 жыл бұрын
What would be the purpose of a 5 director, powered yagi antenna on an easement? I.e. maintained by county? It's approximately 10' off the ground about 1/4 mile from a cell tower
@NexxuSix
@NexxuSix 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informational video! I’m just getting started in Radio Astronomy, but don’t know much about antennas, but this video certainly helps =)
@dasgettopikachu7878
@dasgettopikachu7878 6 жыл бұрын
Does the outer metal of the coaxial cable work to isolate the inner one from radio waves while transporting a signal *and* receives radiation?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
yes .. that is correct and the physical dimensions of the cable determine the characteristic impedance.
@learnshareevolve1842
@learnshareevolve1842 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation for newbies (like me)!
@0033mer
@0033mer 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@justinmckibben4534
@justinmckibben4534 6 жыл бұрын
Where do I get the type of connector shown in this video?? Can't seem to find them anywhere
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Any electronic supply store that sells RF connectors should have them. You can also check online. www.rpelectronics.com/184-515-1-n-female-chassis-mount-with-flange.html shop.mroelectronics.com/mro/product.php?id_product=1140 www.amazon.com/female-connector-chassis-Quality-Shipping/dp/B01CWJ4DA4 www.ebay.ca/itm/N-female-Jack-4-Hole-panel-Mount-Chassis-with-solder-cup-RF-Coaxial-Connector/272360374545?hash=item3f69f18111:g:XucAAOSwH3NXnxOS:rk:1:pf:0
@charlie3k
@charlie3k Жыл бұрын
“We’re not creating power, we’re focusing the power”
@moj8945
@moj8945 5 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity with antenna this small could it be made in a chip form and be able to pick up over the air channels?
@0033mer
@0033mer 5 жыл бұрын
You can etch an antenna on a copper printed circuit board. (PCB) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJa4lqufndd-kLM
@idontwantachannelimjustcom7745
@idontwantachannelimjustcom7745 6 жыл бұрын
How did you know to bend your 4 prongs down 45°? If you were trying to verify your 50ohm would you hook it up to a multimeter or a scope or some other device?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
You would adjust the antenna for minimum VSWR or maximum (db value ) return loss at the operating frequency. A VSWR value lower than 2:1 or a return loss greater than 10 db is what you want. Any device capable of measuring VSWR or return loss can be used, and tune for best results.
@AndrewBrierley
@AndrewBrierley 7 жыл бұрын
Bloody awesome video mate, explained some of the concepts I thought I knew but became so much clearer after watching this, thank you.
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback ... glad that it helped.
@kubectlgetpo
@kubectlgetpo 7 жыл бұрын
This is a gold mine find. Dude. You explained it better than anyone! Are you gonna make more videos where you go into how this also related to antenna math?
@ethical-not-evil
@ethical-not-evil 4 ай бұрын
btw could this antenna work on other frequencies?
@0033mer
@0033mer 4 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJa4lqufndd-kLM
@ReflectingMe2024
@ReflectingMe2024 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained sir, just superb. Greetings from Wales (no call sign yet... hopefully in two weeks if I pass) 👍
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and good luck with your test!
@ReflectingMe2024
@ReflectingMe2024 7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Can I suggest a video project for you (and for me to copy haha!)... any chance you might be able to do a project that constructs an SWR meter using the Arduino? I am certain this would be hugely popular!
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
I have built VSWR alarms for repeater systems using a Motorola directional coupler and a microcontroller. The directional couplers are expensive and tricky if you want to build one yourself. I would invest in a Bird 43 and learn how to use it properly ... very powerful tool.
@researchcapt
@researchcapt 3 жыл бұрын
Great description with the bagel.
@0033mer
@0033mer 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@a3496360327
@a3496360327 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, I would like to ask whether this formula can also be used on 433mhz or 915mhz systems.
@a3496360327
@a3496360327 6 жыл бұрын
According to this formula, it has become 1.66 cm at 433mhz and 0.78 cm at 915mhz. Is this correct?
@a3496360327
@a3496360327 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not questioning, I'm just a learner who wants to plead for the answer... Thank you
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
I am building two antennas for a LoRa project (915 Mhz ) Watch for the video. 915 Mhz the wire lengths are: 7.9 cm 433 Mhz the wire lengths are: 16.6 cm
@a3496360327
@a3496360327 6 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to watching and learning...
@RobertShaverOfAustin
@RobertShaverOfAustin 7 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting. One point; the radial wires did not look like they where are 45 degrees. More like 30 degrees. I guess you could tune the wires if you have a signal strength meter. Perhaps a smart phone with a WiFi app that shows signal strength. That might make an interesting video. Thanks, I'm enjoying these videos. Short, simple, clear and no frills.
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
Good observation .. I built a few of these antennas with different radial angles and I happened to use that one in the video. You are correct, the best way to fine tune the antenna is with a field strength meter and play with the angles. You could even cut the radiator longer to start with and trim off a little bit at a time for a peak in RSSI .
@bekka1591
@bekka1591 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Shaver
@gabrielgarza3707
@gabrielgarza3707 6 жыл бұрын
Wear do I get the UHF female connecters?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
DigiKey. www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/amphenol-rf-division/82-97-RFX/ARFX1023-ND/21820
@alasdair4161
@alasdair4161 6 жыл бұрын
That is a very well presented video tutorial. A lot crammed in and every bit relevant. Great work
@TheHairyHound
@TheHairyHound 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't a clue what you were talking about but it was a well informed clip 👍🏾👍👍🏽
@0033mer
@0033mer 4 жыл бұрын
Check out the description box for more instructional videos.
@jackmichael9606
@jackmichael9606 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I want to make an external quarter wave ground plane antenna, mainly to monitor frequencies 118.000 MHz to 136.975 MHz (aircraft band). As far as the 3mm welding rod is concern, is bronze better than aluminum? Also, when using the antenna calculator to determine the length of the radiating element and radial elements, what frequency will I input in the calculator and will I retain the 0.95 velocity factor?
@anthonygallo3576
@anthonygallo3576 2 жыл бұрын
Ughhh , like i was back in high school! Very informative
@StupidTVclips
@StupidTVclips 6 жыл бұрын
0:35 That's what she said, "You're vertically polarized"! Bagel?
@RajRaj-yp5kx
@RajRaj-yp5kx 3 жыл бұрын
BNC pin is the worst choice for an antenna. Its quicker but offers poor and unstable conductivity. 377 ohms for free space???. Kindly clarify if that is for the frequency of the signal in discussion. What frequency is that?
@0033mer
@0033mer 3 жыл бұрын
It is the characteristic impedance of free space similar to the character impedance of a coaxial cable which is independent of wavelength. It is the relationship of the electric field (capacitance) and the magnetic field (inductance) in free space. For air it is 377 ohms.
@RajRaj-yp5kx
@RajRaj-yp5kx 3 жыл бұрын
@@0033mer thanks for the reply. However my basic doubt is if the freespace has only 377 ohms then how are we not electrocuted near high voltage pylons or powergrids or say even the feeder lines carrying 11000 voltage. Kindly clarify
@0033mer
@0033mer 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you understand "characteristic"" impedance and confusing it with resistance. You need to go online and study transmission line theory. In my short 10 min video I am simply stating an antenna is a impedance transformer from 377 to 50 ohms. www.ad5gg.com/2018/09/25/what-is-characteristic-impedance/
@RajRaj-yp5kx
@RajRaj-yp5kx 3 жыл бұрын
@@0033mer thanks a lot. I really enjoyed your creative writing which makes complex things easier to understand. From an application point of view how does this 377 ohms play a role. Does it determine attenuation of RF signal in free space and or its the impedance matching thing between the antenna and the freespace or in what manner it must be considered.
@RajRaj-yp5kx
@RajRaj-yp5kx 3 жыл бұрын
Your writing of envisaging a DC pulse as AC and super multimeter and 100 miles examples are praiseworthy. Please keep educating
@sayedabdurrahmanhussaini706
@sayedabdurrahmanhussaini706 4 жыл бұрын
how can i find the out put power (out put ohm)?
@0033mer
@0033mer 4 жыл бұрын
Check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIfEmoqwf7iphLc
@timothymason3423
@timothymason3423 5 жыл бұрын
Can you use a raisin bagel ?
@user-zlcksu4asdv
@user-zlcksu4asdv 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice video for complete beginners like myself!
@Ilovelazers
@Ilovelazers 7 жыл бұрын
But ground plane antennas don't have any extra gain?
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
A 1/4 wave monopole ground plane antenna is a unity gain antenna (0dbd) when compared to a 1/2 wave dipole. When compared to an isotropic antenna it has a gain of 2.15 dbi. Using a unity gain ground plane antenna you will get a about a 6 db increase over a rubber duckie (helical) antenna. A rubber duckie is very inefficient, it is basically an attenuator. It is a compromise between gain and small size.
@markberizo2500
@markberizo2500 5 жыл бұрын
Sir where did you get the 2832?
@0033mer
@0033mer 5 жыл бұрын
A wavelength is the speed of light divided by the frequency. 186000 mi/sec/freq Hz That would be 982.08 feet/sec/freq Mhz A quarter wavelength would be 245.52/Freq Mhz (feet) Multiply by 12 to get inches 2946/Freq Mhz (inches) The speed of light is slower in a wire because of its dielectric constant. To compensate we multiply by the velocity of propagation factor. Vp can vary but I use .961 2946 X .961 = 2832 For a metric calculation use the speed of light in meters/sec
@markberizo2500
@markberizo2500 5 жыл бұрын
@@0033mer thank you sir..
@demef758
@demef758 3 жыл бұрын
2.98*10^8 m/sec /1.05 = 2.832*10^8 m/sec. Divide by the frequency in MHz to give wavelength as 283.2 m/MHz. Bump that up by a factor of 3.28 ft/m to give you the length in feet, or 929.13 ft/MHz. For 2400 MHz, you get the wavelength in feet is 0.387', or 4.65". Quarter wavelength is 1/4 of this, or 1.16", which he rounds off to 1.2". The basic equation is simple enough, wavelength = speed of light / frequency. The hard part is working through the units, which are usually stated in meters (2.98 * 10^8) or even kilometers (2.98 * 10^6), and then translating the results into feet or inches, which we Americans insist on using.
@johnrees44..G4EIJ
@johnrees44..G4EIJ 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an amazingly informative and concise video...so much learned in so short a time!...JR Bristol..UK
@ahmetozdemir7173
@ahmetozdemir7173 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job. According to the formula we see towards the end of the video, when we calculate low frequencies, the wire sizes are quite long. For example; 2832 inch for 1Mhz frequency. An impossible length. Is there a way to shorten the wire sizes?
@0033mer
@0033mer 4 жыл бұрын
Low frequency = long antennas. Search online for long wire antennas with balun or antenna tuner.
@rilosvideos877
@rilosvideos877 Жыл бұрын
Aspite some very negative comments i concider this video very informative and well explained! The impedance matching is very important, also the SWR measurement. A NanoVNA ist probably the best and quite inexpensive tool to tune an antenna. Why is a dipole antenna 37 ohm? Is this true for all frequencies and idenpendent from heigt and form/surroundings of the antenna?
@solarmangreen157
@solarmangreen157 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Why 234 vice the 300 for c that they teach in the books? it is clear to see that 234 used in the equations works well. Thanks again for the video and for your time.
@mathbee
@mathbee 6 жыл бұрын
You did a great job w this video. Very straight forward and clean explain w a nice practice build
@JK-ug7rm
@JK-ug7rm 6 жыл бұрын
Is there an animated video showing what the RF is doing?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Check out this link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pavIipSfoK5kZ8k
@SkashTheKitsune
@SkashTheKitsune 4 жыл бұрын
assembled a TV antenna tonight, now I'm here to know how it works
@jaykierdlumanda2607
@jaykierdlumanda2607 3 жыл бұрын
How to make diy strength antenna cignal? From
@0033mer
@0033mer 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpC1pYN5odmShsU kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZKpc4ikmtVqipI
@asmith8896
@asmith8896 6 жыл бұрын
what lengths would the wires be for 11 meters 27mhz cb radio?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
You can use the same formula: 2832/27 = 104 inches. That is over 8.5 feet so you would need some support to make it practical. Fiberglass whips or center loaded commercial antennas are available which are smaller but the 1/4 will give you the best performance.
@murrayzhong3968
@murrayzhong3968 3 жыл бұрын
You are so smart. I can remember now because the signal is spread in the pattern of a bagel.:-)
@HisXLNC
@HisXLNC 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Gonna try to build a monopole tomorrow.
@heliumnetwork2871
@heliumnetwork2871 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i will try to make this kind of antenna for my helium miner
@Slacking02
@Slacking02 6 жыл бұрын
Can I put this on my tv tho?
@ManuelPinner
@ManuelPinner 3 жыл бұрын
N Connecters are use for both 1200 Mhz and 2400 Mhz Antenna,
@xanataph
@xanataph 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant...! Thanx for making this video, it has cleared up a number of things for me about making antennas...and the VSWR too! :)
@chrisscott1547
@chrisscott1547 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty good simplified explanation.
@TheFlyre
@TheFlyre 6 жыл бұрын
hi what about the antenna with around?
@rogeranderson5092
@rogeranderson5092 3 жыл бұрын
This question has probably been answered already. And if it has i apologize. My question is what is the purpose of a capacitor being installed on the inside of a flexible antenna? If this seems to be a stupid question i apologize. I'm not stupid but I'm definitely not a genius either. I absolutely love trying to figure out how things work. I love to find things that don't work and see if i can figure out what is wrong with it then see if I can fix it.
@azimalif266
@azimalif266 6 жыл бұрын
What's the width of those copper wires? does it matter?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Thicker gauge wire will increase the operating bandwidth but in our case we just want is to stand on its own. At lower frequencies the lengths will get longer so aluminum or copper tubing can be used. You can use 12 or 14 awg romex copper wire ( house wiring )
@rapscallion3506
@rapscallion3506 6 жыл бұрын
Is an Egg bagel better than a Blueberry bagel?
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 7 жыл бұрын
6dB doesn't double your range. Remember RF power (like light) falls as distance squared.
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
Radio waves follow an inverse square law for power density. The power density is proportional to the inverse square of the distance. Every time you double the distance, you receive only one-fourth the power. This means that every 6-dBm increase in output power doubles the possible distance that is achievable. Double the range = 4 times the power and every 3db is double the power. This is a basic rule of thumb of antenna gain. www.amalgamate2000.com/sales/2.htm
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 7 жыл бұрын
You started off well and then made the error. The power per unit area of RF power falls as the square of the distance. The gain is dB which is a ratio of power in this case, it is a doubling of the power. Hence the range goes up by sqrt(2)
@0033mer
@0033mer 7 жыл бұрын
Yes ... you are correct, on doubling the power the range goes up by the square root of 2 which is 1.41 In this case the gain is 6db which is a power ratio of 4, and the square root of 4 is 2 ... which is double the distance. I think you are confusing voltage ratio with power ratio.
@WanderlustWonderscape
@WanderlustWonderscape 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but will this lead to twice as many bagels?
@JK-ug7rm
@JK-ug7rm 6 жыл бұрын
How does RF get reflected back in an open circuit?
@jmsmaxwell
@jmsmaxwell 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tutuorial but would have been better if he had actually hooked it up to a radio and a meter to demonstrate the actual values he was explaining . I did this very stunt back in 1972 when I came back stateside and boughty my first CB radio. I worked with guys who were antenna specialist in AF and we used to play with antenna designs to see if it was possible to take old military antenna and addapt them to Civilian usage for fun. Some interesting experements and drove the FCC crazy at times.
@kenirwin7921
@kenirwin7921 5 жыл бұрын
Tried soldering the copper wires to that exact same chassis socket. Not working
@0033mer
@0033mer 5 жыл бұрын
The connector has to be silver plated for the solder to take. A connector made by Amphenol will work but a knock-off will not. Here is a video with a solution. ( starts at minute 3 ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJa4lqufndd-kLM
@SS-qy9ec
@SS-qy9ec 5 жыл бұрын
Also you have something to eat at the end of the vid! What a great informative vid.
@ginoasci
@ginoasci 4 жыл бұрын
i just wanted to know if i could hook up a coaxial cable to a 32” LED flat screen. LOL. all this talk about free space and ohmes what do i know
@joeshmoe781
@joeshmoe781 7 жыл бұрын
I have forgotten, an N connector is 50 ohms. What is a BNC? BTW, ever play with the angle of the ground plain to see the impedance? Ever play with different copper wire? (could be the oxygen content) Ever use a capacitor for matching purposes? Ever ground your rig using a copper pipe or many small ones over a large distance? All of it makes a difference.
@bekka1591
@bekka1591 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Shmoe
@noweare1
@noweare1 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Easily understood. Thanks
@Migueldeservantes
@Migueldeservantes 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have been watching every single possible video on antenna tuners that I can find in order to understand everything I can about this devices, I have a modem receiver that have this single wire antennas that come with a ATU unit "Two of them" each have a this totally miniaturized version of it.. but range on this particular unit really stinks. Now its my hope to increase the range by installing a good set of choked dipoles but don't know if I have not other choice but to use the same type of ATU? with the same value on the capacitors & inductor....your advice will mean the world to me!!
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
Start out simple. Go through the instruction manual that came with your tuner. Feed your single wire antenna into the tuner. Make sure you have a good ground ... very important. The impedance of the single wire will be high so the tuner matches it to the 50 ohm radio connection. Use an antenna analyzer during tuning to get a low VSWR which will verify the match. Get in contact with your local Ham club if you need more help. Check out this video that describes a very simple setup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWWWpHR8aa2qgNU
@Migueldeservantes
@Migueldeservantes 6 жыл бұрын
I'm very grateful for your advance, thank you very much.. but what I was really asking was.. since the one wire are already tuned by the manufacturer.. and have such a short range would I have to use exactly the same tuning circuit when I connect it to a dipole? ore will I have to use a different circuit....or slightly different... ?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
A Dipole is a resonant antenna so you need to cut its length to 1/2 wavelength at the desired operating frequency. Use a SWR antenna analyzer to find the resonant frequency and fine tune it so you can feed it directly into your radio. If you do not have any test equipment feed it to your same tuning circuit and then your radio.
@Migueldeservantes
@Migueldeservantes 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, I do have the means to make my own custom antennas and I will be using probably a 1/4 wave, my true problem is my ignorance of that if I remove the tuning circuit... I may literally destroy my receiver.. "Since been a modem there is some data exchange... goes in both direction" that is what is digging a hole in my head, that is the reason I'm trying to find a few fellow amateur radio friends that can guide and help me, thank you very much from Daytona beach KN4GCQ
@ethelrod1648
@ethelrod1648 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yes! Your vids and explanations are the best.
@fer_fdi
@fer_fdi 3 жыл бұрын
excellent! Thank you very much
@0033mer
@0033mer 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 5 жыл бұрын
lol, ok, maybe I don't really need to know how antennae work. tx for the reality check. you sell those? can you do it to RCA instead of coaxial?
@BradCaldwellAuburn
@BradCaldwellAuburn 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, but question- how the heck do you get 50 ohms coming out of the radio- I thought ohms was a measure of resistance to current, not something that flows.
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
When we say the radio has a "50 ohm output" we are talking about an "impedance" ( AC resistance ) which cannot be measured with an ohmmeter. It has resistance and reactance and is frequency dependant. This means the radio's power output is optimized when driving a 50 ohm load. A proper transmission line and antenna as the load will ensure this will happen.
@BradCaldwellAuburn
@BradCaldwellAuburn 6 жыл бұрын
0033mer thanks! I'll chew on that. I guess it's sort of like electrical AC "inertia," or sort of like how power plants have a certain resistance across their generators, or like how transmission lines are storing and cycling through reactive energy which is stored in the region around the lines in an inductive manner. And I suppose it has something to do with the power getting radiated properly at the antenna rather than reflecting back to the radio station.
@BradCaldwellAuburn
@BradCaldwellAuburn 6 жыл бұрын
I found this from the Practical Antenna Handbook- "The impedance of the half-wave antenna usually is considered to be the imped- ance as seen by the transmitter at the input terminals. This impedance consists of both resistance and reactance. If the antenna is cut to a length of exact resonance, the reactance is zero and the impedance is purely resistive. However, if the antenna is longer or shorter than resonance, reactance is present. When the antenna is made shorter, capacitive reactance is present; when the antenna is made longer, inductive reactance is present. The impedance at the antenna input terminals is important in terms of power ef- ficiency. If the transmitter is feeding a nonresonant antenna, a power loss is caused by the reactive component of the antenna impedance. Conversely, if the frequency of the transmitter is changed, the electrical length of the antenna also changes. If the frequency is made somewhat higher, the electrical length is made greater, and in- ductive reactance is added to the impedance. If the frequency is lowered, the elec- trical length is shortened, and capacitive reactance is added to the impedance."
@AS-yc9nm
@AS-yc9nm 6 жыл бұрын
How can I collect the transmitted waves and again transmit???
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
You need a radio repeater. A receiver and a transmitter operating in duplex mode and a set of duplexer filters to isolate the two radios en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_repeater#/media/File:Repeater_duplexer.png
@dc-zk8th
@dc-zk8th 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at 1:08
@NoYoureBeautiful
@NoYoureBeautiful 3 жыл бұрын
Also, my neighbor has a parabola with no sonde (spelling?) On his roof along with 2 others that actually use satellite. What's the point?
@octavmandru9219
@octavmandru9219 6 жыл бұрын
length of coax?
@TeomanOzsen
@TeomanOzsen 6 жыл бұрын
You know what I just liked your video and subscribed you. Thank you.
@TheCalvinSkinner
@TheCalvinSkinner 6 жыл бұрын
Why 4 wires on the ground plane versus say 3 or 5?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
More would be better. There were only 4 holes on the N connector to solder on the radials. In mobile applications the antenna is mounted on the roof of the car so the whole roof becomes the ground plane.
@TheCalvinSkinner
@TheCalvinSkinner 6 жыл бұрын
0033mer woah that's really cool! The ground plane is one circuit though right?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
That's correct.
@WIspotter
@WIspotter 6 жыл бұрын
You lost me at "Free Space Impedance" I dont get what that is, and where did you come up with the 377ohm?
@0033mer
@0033mer 6 жыл бұрын
whatis.techtarget.com/definition/characteristic-impedance-of-free-space
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