Anti-Martingale Betting System

[@Viglin123]

While l don’t use it(l think it’s called the Parley?), those lve seen use it only go for 3 wins in a row..then start over or leave. Curious on the numbers on 3 wins instead of 5. Anyone can tell winning three in a row is a lot easier. For myself, l like the 2-1-2 System cause you take some winnings back.

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

In blackjack, since a small card will more likely to cause a loss and a big card will more likely cause a win, in the long run, the martingale player will be slightly better off than the anti-martingale player. The martingale player will be betting more money after losses when the deck is slightly rich in big cards and the anti-martingale will be betting more money when the deck is slightly richer in small cards.

[@atarifun2007]

Cool and informative video. Better to keep your anti-martindale wins below 5, or once you win 3 units keep the wins and just play them. Use the houses money to that advantage this way your mostly using house money to bet. Still as you said proves no system will work 100% of the time.

[@kristofferkarlsson4260]

This is very educational! All gamblers should go through your videos at least once, before even setting a foot in a casino.

[@DMcC]

Always enjoy the videos Michael. Evidence of the law of large numbers isn't something that the people who need to see it are going to accept unfortunately. Someone I met at a casino once said that there are two kinds of people here, those thinking of the possibilities and those thinking about the probabilities. Insightful guy that one.

[@jasonmartineaux6492]

which one are you just curious

[@brettmasonmedia]

Your math is impeccable. The problem that I have with simulations is they always simulate an idiot betting 1000 sessions every time no matter what. They never represent someone quitting at any point before that. As you can see from your graphs, many of those losing sessions were winning at some point before. The player can control a few things. What to bet, how much to bet, and when to leave. Your simulations only account for two of those three decisions. I’m not saying this changes the end result or not. I’m just saying your simulations don’t tell us one way or the other.

[@ebojfmdboojoh4023]

Exactly, I believe some betting systems can work if you play in very short bursts and set yourself a fixed profit and loss and have the discipline to walk away when you've reached either one of those. The Casinos edge is only a long term edge. It may be possible to overcome the long term edge by playing for very short periods at a time. For example if you look to make a three unit profit or twenty unit loss each time. Many times during a gambling session a player will be three units ahead before they have lost twenty units.

[@damienwilliams5364]

Curious how many times the player was up 10units in those 26billion simulations. Many times they looked up at 1 point. How many hands out of the 1000plays were ahead of 0...long enough they often lose but could they aim for 5wins in a row plus up 10unitts then quit. Percent that works?

[@thisismylife-i5t]

I think it is funny how human mind works. People can play normal martingale as much as they have money just like that, but all know, that these long runs happen all the time. But you can't do reverse martingale can you - what if you loose...

[@Ebbrush3]

i also would like to see 3 times simulation ......the results 6, 7 ,8 ect. were obvious

[@dennischua3956]

Yeah

[@truelies150]

well 5 in a row .. looking good in your sheet after plus minus

[@bjsongster9784]

Thank you for all your hard work! I appreciate it!!! One of the most important thing is to sit at a table where the dealer is having a bad day! Usually the table that has a lot of people at it is a table where the dealer is having a bad day! Nobody stays at tables where they are losing money! I experienced this last time I went to play blackjack!!! I sat and played with a dealer who warned me that he was winning a lot! It was only me at this table! I immediately lost 3 hands using the Martingale $15, 30, 60! I then picked up my chips and went to a busy table and continued with a $120 bet! I won that hand. And then continued playing til I made $500! I got up and walked away a winner of $500! Thanks!

[@tullochgorum6323]

Clearly, no betting system will win in the long term unless you have an edge. Any time you're playing against the house you don't have an edge. Play for fun if you can afford to lose - but it's a mathematical certainty that you'll bust your account in the long run. If you do have an edge, for example in Forex trading, Anti-Martingale can work if wins and losses are clustered. But bank your wins once you achieve 3 or 4 units and start again. There are a lot of parameters you can play with to match the system to the characteristics of your trading strategy.

[@natural9743]

Well explained and interesting video

[@jeffb8731]

Is it possible to reverse engineer a successful betting strategy, or one that might "make a dent" in the house's advantage? Suppose you didn't follow a strict Martingale, or Anti-Martingale, but modified them in x number of ways, and ran all modifications through the simulations. For example have a large set of 2 or 3 simple rules: RULE 1: Increase or decrease the bet RULE 2: Increment the bet by 1 unit, 2, units, 3 units, 4 units 5 units, or double, or half, etc...) RULE #3: Follow the leader or don't follow the leader (In Baccarat that would mean either bet on Banker if the Banker won the last hand, or bet on Player if the Banker won the last hand). Another set of Rules to run through the simulator might be: 1. Alternate Banker or Player each hand, or every other hand, or every 3 hands. OR.... 1. Follow the leader(or not) only after 2 consecutive Banker wins or losses, or 3 consecutive banker wins or losses. The rules one could arrange are infinite. Probably though someone has already tried this. My guess is that none of them fare better than randomly selecting Banker or Player. Thanks

[@h2t26]

The house edge is built into the game how it's played, how u win, how much you're paid. Unless u change either of those three things the house edge stays the same.

[@mountdoomee]

I'm curious to see these as well!

[@liberalstudiesmaterials899]

May I ask which betting system combined with different strategy and trend are the best in the long run ( Martingale System Fibonacci System d'Alembert System Cancellation System Paroli System Oscar's System) please?

[@donaldbroadstone1572]

Michael, would you be willing to rerun the simulator and instead of a full parlay use a modified positive progression please. Unit = 1, 1.5, 2.25, 3.25, 4.5, 6, 7.75, 9.75, 12 & 14.5. That is 10 progressions, $100 units work best. Bet selection also is important and I use patterns and symbols in Baccarat on all the Main Road, Big Eye Boy, Small Road and Cockroach Road.

[@polok890]

If you can lose 12 times in row, you can win also. Black swans happen alot, like every 2 hrours. That's why down martingales, casinos aren't afraid of. If you cut your hair short and dyed it, you would look a lot younger. Look a lot better with beard shaved off, yuck

[@rkt2583]

I would use 3 times instead of 5.

[@khosroganjeh7066]

why only talked about the player,i remember many years a go you said only go with banker,thanks

[@kristofferkarlsson4260]

For simulation purpose, things would be complicated having a 5% Banco comission to consider. Punto pays 1:1 while Banco pays 0.95:1 It doesn't differ that much anyway (Punto -1.24% Banco -1.06%), but okay I see your point, whereas Banco wins 2 hands more than Punto out of 1000 hands played.

[@martingale0]

Don’t forget to Martingale !

[@ronalddiaz7380]

I love the wonder woman picture in the background.

[@oreidigital]

Very nice! Cgrulations to brazil my friend.

[@BaccaratNation]

Going for 5 wins showed the most profitable results of the simulations. I would have liked to see it go for less wins then more 😉

[@truelies150]

I also found usefull .. hope it's work for long run

[@mehranh1646]

Thank you for awesome education. Question : what's the difference between Anti-martingale, and Paroli system?

[@JulesRulesOK]

Google your question to get your answer or ask AI.

[@roulettesoftware]

Upgrade to.. slow progression. 1+. When needed after many losses in a row with the option to aim for more wins in a row when needed after many losses in a row. Many more options available. Cheers

[@polok890]

Your free craps game on the wizards on odds is total nonsense. When you write down the numbers rolled, it doesnt come close to what happens with real dice

[@Viglin123]

Most use a 3 win streak then drop back to 1.

[@Bgf777]

The true sign of a winning system would be that tap on the shoulder.

[@dougadams7431]

By a waitress

[@cavejohnson4054]

How do these betting systems apply to a game where the player does have an edge, like an EV+ game or the stock market, which system should be used?

[@111yohan]

Nice

[@Kathy-kr1sv]

Anyone who knows anything about the table games knows getting 4 in a row is rare Yes you can get 10+. But most times 2 or 3 is difficult to get

[@TonydaGM]

It makes no sense to gamble this way after the 3rd win you should go back to one again ,

[@kristofferkarlsson4260]

Doesn't matter either way. Net result always -1.24% playing Punto (-1.06% playing Banco).

[@ConspiratorialReport]

I would use Martingale on your losing streaks, to gain your loses back, and then use Reverse Martingale on your winning streaks to maximize your wins.

[@circasurvive9891]

​​@@ConspiratorialReportYES!! PRECISELY😊 **reaches for time machine so l can always know when l will win, lose, & go on either of a streak** ...obviously its best to M to recuperate losses & Anti-M to maximize wins but how in the actual FUCK does one do that sucessfully without bending time?😂😂😂

[@Rainy_Day12234]

I think if you’re going to apply doubling down I wouldn’t do it more than a few times. Then say uncle.

[@geoffrey9888]

Am sorry to say but i believe this is the worst strategy since it only requires one loss and you are down to starting point. Not to talk about what happens if you get on a 3 loss streaks after 5 wins in a row.

[@juicebokz7743]

All this system does is give me high blood pressure🤣🤣🤣 the 8+ unit bets is like Russian roulette.

[@djbthunder]

can you run a simulation on winning three or four bets in a row. thats more realistic. can i contact on running some pattern simulations?

[@JayB2]

This is pretty amazing. A few years ago I read an article by a mathematician explaining how "statistically" using the Martingale Strategy long term ends up being a losing game. But now I'm thinking using the Reverse Martingale may actually work long term. The problem is knowing when to pull ur last bet.

[@kristofferkarlsson4260]

Doesn't matter either way. Yoy cannot overcome house odds with just a betting system.

[@mountdoomee]

​@@kristofferkarlsson4260 long term maybe not but this doesn't factor in getting out once you're ahead

[@sedeghosiguian7026]

Make an expert advisor with it

[@todddavis9426]

Great analysis!

[@tracer0017]

Sorry for the late reply just saw this video. I am new at table games and am learning and testing different systems. None of them seem to work consistently. Can I assume that if I just want to win a little each time I stay over nigh at a casino I might as well not even bother? By your analysis at the end over the long term you will lose. I would honestly rather use my money to buy a new tool or something else hobby wise rather than give it to a casino. I am getting the feeling they rig the games in their favor and in blackjack if you use your brain and start winning too much they will kick you out or ban you. The only people making money in casinos is the owners? Am I right in assuming then that Poker is really the only option where you have a fair chance to win money. And by fair I mean no house edge. As always great video and information Michael. I love your style and detailed analysis backed up with math.

[@itzamia]

Nothing can work 100% of the time. The house will always have the edge. You can get lucky and come out a winner more often than not in the beginning, but after a while the winnings slow down, and the losses build up. When I used to bartend at a VIP Lounge at a casino, I would ask my regulars "how's it going out there?" One guy said he's winning a lot today, but overall, over the years he's probably down in the millions.

[@Mr.Caring]

A good prayer: I'm a sinner JESUS please forgive me for all my sins I know you shed your Blood for me on the cross at Calvary. Thank you JESUS for my salvation and for shedding they Blood for me. I love you JESUS. Romans 10:5/10 ct...❤️k JESUSisLord!Amen.

[@davidkirk738]

So I understand that the banker has an advantage and usually casinos charge commission for betting on the banker but my local casino doesn't charge commission. Would this system be more profitable betting on the banker in that scenario?

[@soothingmusic7385]

You might be playing a variation. Like my casino has EZ bac, where if theres a dragon your banker bet pushes instead of winning. Banker is better in all variations I am aware of, however there is no such thing as Bac without some sort of downside to banker. So it either pushes at some point, they take your bet on a win at some point, or you pay a commission, there is no Bac without an edge of course

[@kendrickstarr]

i cant remember if i asked this question or not but this is how i play. i only try to win 2 or 3 times before dropping back down to one unit though. love these vids. thanks wizard of odds.

[@Viglin123]

Pretty sure that’s how most use this system..

[@BlackjackLover]

Buy Tesla Baccarat Lover System mate! 🤑

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

The end result with both betting systems in the long run will be exactly the same.

[@ststst981]

yes of course. the longer you play, the closer you get to the games true EV. This system seems to just be trying to profit quickly off of one good streak. definitely not good for longterm but if you gamble once or twice a year it's not a bad system to try for fun

[@mimoban]

No Matter what the betting system is, or what ever the threshold of the anti-martingle is, its always going to be converge to the RTP of the game right? Also, one other way to beat the casino is " don't play " :D

[@kristofferkarlsson4260]

@Soumya You are right about the first statement.

[@jasonmartineaux6492]

don't believe that bro , you can over come the house edge.

[@carrolltucker]

@@jasonmartineaux6492 It has never happened and it will never will...I can promise you that

[@jasonmartineaux6492]

@@carrolltucker IT HAS MANY TIMES OVER AND ITS SIMPLE, BUT TO DO THIS YOU NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, YOU NEED TO SIMULATE ON EVERY SPIN OF GAME AND DO SELECTIVE BETTING MEANING DO NOT BET EVERY SPIN AND USE FLAT BETTING ONLY YOU CAN WALK AWAY WITH AROUND FIVE TO TEN UNITS OF PROFIT ALMOST EVERY SESSION ( EG ONLY PLAY WHEN THE GAME IS HEAVILY ONE SIDED THEN PLAY AS IT STARTS TO BALLANCE OFF)PLUS EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT A WINNER IN ANY SESSION HAS OVERCOME THE HOUSE EDGE FOR THAT SESSION. ROULETTE IS NOW A SOFTWARE THAT IS BUILT TO BALANCE OFF OVER A GIVEN NUMBER OF SPINS WITH A HOUSE EDGE. MEANING ON AVERAGE IN TEN THOUSAND SPINS YOU CAN EXPECT AROUND 2,7 % OF THESE SPINS TO BE ZEROS AND THE REST EQUALLY DEVIVED BETWEEN REDS / BLACKS, HIGHS /LOWS, ODDS/ EVENS ETC. NOW THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU TO LOSE A SUM EQUAL TO THE HOUSE EDGE IS FOR YOU TO PLAY LET'S SAY BLACK ALL THE TIME AND NOT CHANGE, ONCE YOU CHANGE IT CAN AFFECT THE SO CALL HOUSE EDGE. IN A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE WAY.SO IF YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN IT OVERCOME OR YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF IT BEING OVERCOME DO NOT MAKE IT A REALITY FOR ALL, REMEMBER AT ONE TIME EVERYONE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO FLY, AND LOOK AT US NOW ,SO DON'T LOCK YOURSELF IN A BOX THINKING LIKE THAT OK BLESS

[@carrolltucker]

@@jasonmartineaux6492 Thanks for the information...Very interesting!!!

[@woonchungliong4173]

I heard that NeAsha Adams the Indian Mama Pundek fake Guru of Roulette is a very JEALOUS man! He's spoken very badly of Michael Shackleford self-proclaimed Wizard of Oz! He claimed that Michael Shackleford works for the Casinos! True or false? TQ

[@neashaadams3185]

What kind of weed are you smoking bro ,cause you must be high to affiliated me with some Indian Pundek .I an solo on this so don’t mistake me for any one else ok .I have never put up any videos on roulette ,I am not a sheep looking for a sheaphard , and I refuse the brain washing attempts by the masses out here

[@christopherdodge2525]

Have you ever looked into dr. Toms betting system? And if so what are your thoughts.

[@kristofferkarlsson4260]

Yes, I have! Long story short - same old baloney. His system is just wrapped in a fancier package.

[@joeyankosky9436]

Why not add some 10, 50 or 100 session simulations which are what people will do in real life. Very few people are going to play 1000 sessions even in their lifetime. Break the simulation down to how many sessions someone would play in a month or a year to make it more relatable to real life

[@jasonmartineaux6492]

to play 1000 spins it will take 23 to 25 hours so this make no sense and anyone who play 1000 spins playing let say just black is mad

[@minhtuan14vn]

@@jasonmartineaux6492 they dont do " real play" ,they code a bot and bet or stargedy they want

[@victordelmastro8264]

Shaven.

[@ManMountainManX]

TY Michael. 190923/

[@CoreyJ.Williams]

That’s a terrible strategy’

[@neashaadams3185]

Mike with all due respect I want to say and this is my opinion .your simulation testing of roulette systems is to me fraudulent ,very miss leading and don’t prove a single thing ,bearing in mind that roulette is not just about how much you bet but also where you place that bet ,because I am a roulette player and I never play let say on black or red consecutively base on the trends i change up my bet as the game goes on .i agree if you stay on any color say black you will get a string of red eventually and will eventually destroy your bankroll ,and that’s the only thing proven by your simulator .but let say you incorporate into your game play let say if you get any of the colors three times in a row you switch to the leading color ,in that case if that color continues you will win every spin from here on until it changes again ,and the same goes for the chop of red and blacks ,you just switch ,so your. Simulations is only true if a person decides to be that stupid to play the lazy game and stay on one color for his or her entire session that’s all you can test with your simulation of one billion spins ,i use to look up to you but then I realize its ok cause you are working for the casinos,got it .if what you are preaching is true then why don’t you start telling people to stop playing roulette ,you cant i bet ,you want people tp go gamble at roulette but not try to develop ways to survive the game ,you are saying that because of probability one is sure to loose but you know that because on probability and progressive betting we even the playing field some what ,and i agree with you that the martingale strategy and a lot of them that are free out there are not the ones to use for long term play ,that why they are free and came from the casinos ,but yet you condemned them all and still you spend a ton of your time showing people just how to play them ,that look to me like reverse psychology to me .you are promoting these strategies ,every time you show a strategy it win in your videos and then you bring out your simulator lol to show the many loses ,a simulator is like a calculator 1+1 will always be equal to two , it is ridged and cannot test how some one might play ,if any one uses a strategy that can be tested on a simulator they are fools ,and the casino has won .good job mike .

[@woonchungliong4173]

N Adams: You are absolutely an idiotic fool! Caveman Michael Shackleford is a good person! Don't demonize him! You will always lose in Roulette! You will be a bankrupt & your wife & children will run away with another man who doesn't gambles! When you lose till you are penniless, you steal & cheat! And...very soon you will be sleeping 😴 in the streets! No medicine can cure you!

[@neashaadams3185]

Woon Chung Liong glad to know you can defend him ,first of all I am not against him he is doing what he is good at ,have you ever heard the phrase life is a stage and we are all actors ,his role is what it is ,I do not believe in his simulator and I am entitled to express it not so ,and the fact that his simulator is the know it all about roulette it doesn’t make any sense. If you agree with it that’s fine to ,because he and you and a lot of others haven figure out how to overcome the house edge of roulette doesn’t make it impossible for everyone else .some people think that because they have twenty years plus around the casino games they are the gods of it ,which is the true definition of insanity ,doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result . I say if you want to achieve something that you have never achieve before you have better prepare yourself to do something you have never done ,I have ,and I am not looking for a strategy to play roulette I already know my game also I am not trying to sell anyone anything but simulator do not determinate every outcome in the game of roulette ,as for you calling me an idiot lol ,it seam like I struck a nerve go take your med ,maybe you have lost everything ,wife job etc ,I am sorry lol

[@neashaadams3185]

Woon Chung Liong and let me give to a tip on roulette ,roulette is not random any more it’s a software program and can be easily overcome if study in the right way ,with the right attitude so get the right attitude or you will always be looking for a strategy lol

[@woonchungliong4173]

@@neashaadams3185: NeAsha Adams vs Christopher Mitchell! Indian mama pundek vs white Supremacist! Who's the self-proclaimed King 👑 of Roulette? TQ

[@jasonmartineaux6492]

@@woonchungliong4173NeAsh Adams brought up some great points there ,and isn't this a forum where people are free to disagree, its only in discussions we can learn and advance in our common goal. the thing is simple if you believe you cannot get the edge over roulette ,you are probably right in your case and that's fine. Then you should Just stay far away from that game and save what ever little money you have left ,roulette to me is like let say three artist sketching a sculpture from three different angle. The object remains the same but what they see from their view point will look very different to each of them ,got my point so simply put Michael view and your view seams to be the same because you are looking at the game the same way and maybe will never change ,or maybe you know different but you just want people to keep looking at the game that way. on one hand you say all spins are totally random but on the other hand you say that in 1000 spins you is expected to loose 0.054% of your bankroll, if every spin is random maybe i will loose all my money ,maybe half maybe none ,or maybe just maybe i will come out on top ,got my point ,you cannot simulate what will happen in anything that is random .that just give your an average expectation of what should happen if everything happen in one particular order, then why do some people go to the casino with let say $500 and can walkaway with thousands and others walk in with thousands and walk out with empty pockets ,could you simulate some thing like that .i rest my case .bless Mitchell is another case by him self .so

[@markcameroon6613]

so in others words dont gamble at all lol i use a system of martingale doing 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048=4096 12 tries only on player bets to make 5 a day but its possible to loose 12 in a row and be broke