Antique Coleman 425 Stove Testing Out Different Fuels for Performance

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Retro Tech & Electronics

5 жыл бұрын

After my last video running my Coleman stove it was asked to me what different fuels I could run in the stove and what there performance would be. I thought this was an interesting question and decided to test this out.
I have used as a fuel
Denatured Alcohol
Kerosene
Gasoline E10
Naphtha (Coleman fuel) several years old
A fresh can of Naphtha
Each test included a complete clean-out and inspection of the tank and generator to ensure a good test.
Furthermore, its worth noting:
1) Alcohol runs too unstable as a fuel in this stove. Possible.... but not worth it..
2) Kerosene requires preheating the generator to run, but works great.
After each demo... The boil water time tests were conducted
1 Litre and 1 Cup
Another interesting discovery in all this is that while the older Whitegas (naphtha)burned fine, it did not have nearly the power of the new bottle.

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@colonelaengus7005
@colonelaengus7005 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to those who take the time, energy and money to teach others. Without people like you, nothing of value would be passed down. people like you fill the void of knowledge of elders long passed and gone. Thank you for what you do!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure
@totallyfrozen
@totallyfrozen 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most informative videos I’ve seen on these legendary stoves. Coleman stoves are just solid workhorses. Troops used them in WWII, millions of families have enjoyed decades of camping with them, and I’ve used mine in 3 natural disasters as well as camping. They’re just hard not to love.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Ive recently released a video on one of the civilian editions of the WW2 model, restored.
@emeryz10
@emeryz10 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Coleman better than the Svea 123r?
@12knots
@12knots Жыл бұрын
One of my most intriguing memories as a young boy was watching my father fuss with and cuss at, his green stove! Lol!
@timesthree5757
@timesthree5757 Жыл бұрын
Also more rural locations in the early 20th these were everyday cooking stoves.
@dadbudgetadventures
@dadbudgetadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant concept and so much good information. And thank you for feeding my weird obsession with Coleman stoves!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Here to feed, I have a few new ones planned.
@ltxoutdoors4097
@ltxoutdoors4097 4 жыл бұрын
join the club..also addicted to Colemam stoves !
@mtbse789
@mtbse789 3 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the lanterns! Every opportunity I get I fire up the lantern...it always accompanies the portable 🔥 pit.
@Listerguy1
@Listerguy1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mtbse789 l lol lol.
@titanforest2641
@titanforest2641 2 жыл бұрын
instablaster.
@robertburnes2285
@robertburnes2285 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the exhaustive comparison of fuels! I'd bet that many of us Coleman users have always wondered about alternative fuel use but would have never taken the time to do what you did.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@basiliohernandez5111
@basiliohernandez5111 3 жыл бұрын
Due to work requirements, I just picked up my Coleman 425C that I had as a kid from my parent's house. After sitting for 25 years, she fired right up and ran fine off the Coleman fuel from the same time. I am running the last quart and a half before I start feeding fresh white gas I just picked up a few days ago. I was very excited to watch this video and was pleased to see the results. Great idea, thanks for doing it.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, it was a fun project.
@bobpatterson5935
@bobpatterson5935 3 жыл бұрын
Great consistent testing model. Answered a few questions that I had as a new camper / prepper.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hlegler
@hlegler 4 жыл бұрын
This video answers the exact question I had. Thank you, sir. You are amazing! Thanks for your hard work and effort!
@hlegler
@hlegler 4 жыл бұрын
And may I also add that this is the most thorough, scientific, in-depth, nerdy-cool, stove video I have ever seen. It still amazes me that people take the time to share their knowledge, time and creativity on KZbin.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@cajuncookone
@cajuncookone 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your review!!!! Thank you very much for taking the time. Cheers, David T.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tc4421
@tc4421 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I’m prepping my Coleman 425f . Thanks so much for taking the time to do it it helped
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@retiredatforty
@retiredatforty 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Answered a lot of my questions. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome!
@TonyMaine915
@TonyMaine915 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome testing! Thank you for all your hard work.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@frankwright5528
@frankwright5528 2 жыл бұрын
A concise and most informative presentation. High value; no fluff. Thanks.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
I try to minimize fluff.
@plain625
@plain625 2 жыл бұрын
What a great, thorough review! Thanks so much for putting this info out here to the masses. I've always wondered about using gasoline but was reluctant that I might ruin my stove but looks like it will just need a more frequent cleaning. Really, Thanks again for a comprehensive test that should answer 90% of our questions!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@WelcomeToMyHead
@WelcomeToMyHead 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thank you! I had no idea you could run regular gasoline in these stoves! Not only that, it’s clearly efficient. I just got myself one of these for $2 at an auction and I’ll be following along your clean-up and rebuild video to prep it for use! Thanks again!
@techguy9023
@techguy9023 7 ай бұрын
Unleaded gas can clog the generator tube. Coleman fuel has less additives
@RockLander818
@RockLander818 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Just heading back from my first over landing trip and looking for a stove. This is perfect! Gasoline is the way to go! Minimizing the need to carry many fuels. Just gasoline and then diesel for the heater. DONE. Thank you again. Very informative.
@seniorLu48
@seniorLu48 2 жыл бұрын
Boy...happy to have turned into this video, just getting ready to buy my first Coleman stove and was wondering just like your other viewers on what's best to get. This is very educational. GREAT JOB AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. Gracias
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@kentuckyhiker7071
@kentuckyhiker7071 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! I absolutely love my coleman gas camp appliances. I have used both gasoline and camp fuel in mine, and I too have found that the camp fuel runs hotter and cleaner. Thanks for sharing!!
@vitalsteve1
@vitalsteve1 3 жыл бұрын
awesome info, this is just what i was looking for as i just started getting some naptha stoves for SHTF and camping. good to know old fuels still work amazing just take longer.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ZPDSurvival
@ZPDSurvival 10 ай бұрын
Thank You for the Test results. I was wondering about burning regular gasoline.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 10 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@mannyespinosa7810
@mannyespinosa7810 3 жыл бұрын
You answered my question without me asking. I loved the test with gas. if we have an emergency, gas is more easy to buy. Thank you for your video!!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Yes in an emergency petrol would be a life saver
@allencaudill8473
@allencaudill8473 3 жыл бұрын
Just answered so many questions I wanted to know. Save me a lot of personal time
@bobsundquist2039
@bobsundquist2039 2 жыл бұрын
love the old Colemans. If you look at estate sales you can pick them up for $5-$10. Add $20 for propane adapter and you have a true multifuel stove. A .22 cal brush and some Carb cleaner and you are good to go. Nice video, thanks for taking the time to make it.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@Chopinetto
@Chopinetto 11 ай бұрын
Excellent job. 👏 I rarely comments on KZbin videos but you did such outstanding informative video that it is quite useful for other countries where we don't have white gas. Thanks.
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Exactly what I was looking for. Fantastic work! I’m buying one Coleman, maybe two tomorrow. I’ll feel better about using gasoline. The kerosene burn was awesome!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Remember gasoline has lots of chemicals in it.
@robtennant3689
@robtennant3689 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome real-world evidence of what can be used and what the pros & cons are, rather than reading multiple cut n paste blog entries saying "not designed for this fuel". Thanks and one comment/question is that the 425 isnt even considered the dual gas stove (the 424 is) but still works! Thanks for confirming my decision to buy!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
It could just be seals and marketing. A side by side comparison would be interesting.
@allenwilson2395
@allenwilson2395 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Answered my questions on my newly purchased stove.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Enjoy it.
@ClaraXu2014
@ClaraXu2014 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, bro, a good prospect on old fuel. I knew they would work ok, I ran through a can of 10-year-old fuel with no issue. But the amount of BTU is definitely reduced with old fule.
@maritimegardening4887
@maritimegardening4887 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! I've always wondered about alternative fuels, but never had the guts to try them :)
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Now you don’t have to.
@kbjerke
@kbjerke 2 жыл бұрын
That was information I was looking for. THANK you. Subscribed.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@kevinbarletta7749
@kevinbarletta7749 2 жыл бұрын
Someone was just throwing out the same Coleman stove so I put it in my garage and wondered what fuel I could burn it that’s how I came to your video.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Nice… free stove
@quinnyu6536
@quinnyu6536 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think this is the first video that test gasoline
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
And it works really good, it’s just like naphtha but with additives.
@scottjohnson9912
@scottjohnson9912 3 жыл бұрын
Gasoline being easier to find and cheaper this is good info .
@poopy.butthole
@poopy.butthole 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Was wondering why my ancient coleman fuel took so long to get my skillet hot. Makes sense that it would degrade over time like gasoline does, but it's actually impressive how well it still works all these years later...
@phoenixrising4073
@phoenixrising4073 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if adding a bit of methanol (yellow bottle HEET) would help old fuel burn better?
@normanphair8488
@normanphair8488 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for spending so much time on it very informative enjoyed it save me a lot of time
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 11 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@3WSPORTFISHING1085
@3WSPORTFISHING1085 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. My dad hunted and camped all over the Midwest. He always told me if I am going to bring/use a Coleman stove or lantern, that White gas was best for the exact reason demonstrated here. It burns perfectly and doesn’t foul components like other fuels. In a desperate situation, sure you use what you can get your hands on.
@Zelleram55
@Zelleram55 5 жыл бұрын
Great information, thank you for sharing. I just got one of these old stoves.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 5 жыл бұрын
Its a great stove.
@RVingwithG
@RVingwithG 4 жыл бұрын
@@retrotechandelectronics If I may... Try adding a CAP or two of (yellow) HEAT to your OLD White gas and Test it!? :)
@harrisonmantooth3647
@harrisonmantooth3647 4 жыл бұрын
@@RVingwithG I was wondering if that HEET would help to remove any moisture in the fuel. I have a couple of gallons of Coleman fuel that's been out of a protected environment and thought about giving it a try. Thanks for reinforcing my thoughts.
@gatsbylee2773
@gatsbylee2773 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful!! this is the first video I've seen that checks the deposit as well. good job!!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@mtbse789
@mtbse789 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I learned a lot and was surprised by the degradation. To be fair the old fuel still performed quite well. Oh and very scientific.
@mikemorgan5015
@mikemorgan5015 2 жыл бұрын
It was a fair test, but not scientific. A sample size of one iteration per fuel ignores 2 crucial factors of the scientific method. Consistency and repeatability. We also don't account for several factors here like, water temperature, ambient temperature, accuracy of water measurement, wind speed and direction, starting temperature of the pot, time from throttle up to pot placement are a few. These should be measured and recorded for each iteration of the test. Again, I'm not complaining about the test, it was fair and you likely wouldn't see much variation, but some items are concerning. For instance, why would kerosene boil the large pot 55 sec slower that pump gas, but boil the 1 cup 5 seconds faster than pump gas? That alone is a HUGE red flag that would invalidate a scientific test. At least that iteration would have to be thrown out. Until consistent, repeatable results are recorded, we can draw any conclusions at all. That's why we can't rely on anecdotal data and non-peer reviewed studies. We don't repeat and review because we think tests are cheated or rigged. We do it for accuracy and validity. Career scientists run into outlier data points all the time. But over many iterations of tests, patterns will form and data points will cluster at the best result. When we get multiple outliers we investigate what could have caused it and we test those ideas to see if we can repeat those results. Science doesn't dictate truth, it gives the best estimates of what is likely true with a given data set. It get even better when we have multiple studies that produce data consistent with other studies. About the only conclusion we can come to here is that the best fuel for these stoves is likely what the manufacturer, who did a lot of testing, recommended in the first place. Fresh white gas/camp fuel/naptha. But it also is of significant value to demonstrate that in a pinch, other fuels can be used.
@evil17
@evil17 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemorgan5015agreed, but not bad for a YT vid. I thought he should have also tried some fresh fuel since that was oldish too.
@capcon6
@capcon6 4 жыл бұрын
Grest video RTE and thank you. I have used crown in both my lanterns and stove with no problems. Gas, I guess would be a last resort.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Right on
@davidoltmans2725
@davidoltmans2725 Жыл бұрын
Your denatured alcohol test was informative. I think that the alcohol has a higher flashpoint that inhibits the vaporization need to keep the cycle going.
@irishn8
@irishn8 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a very informative video, thank you.
@PP-ob8zr
@PP-ob8zr 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review. Nicejob!! 😊👍
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Bohnzye
@Bohnzye 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic research and data contribution! Thank you for shareing a wealth of information. Great presentation. "Coleman Collector":))
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@peterchilds9491
@peterchilds9491 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just got my late Father-In-Law's old Coleman and was looking what to burn in it. After 10 years plus..it fired right up. I wish I knew what he put in it last.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Coleman fuel [naptha] is the standard, use that
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 3 жыл бұрын
man, you really put this stove through its paces. I just picked up a 425E, and didn't hesitate to use gasoline based off your video. Nice to know I could use kerosene in a pinch too. thanks a lot Sir.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember gas has a lot more chemicals added than whitegas, it should be used in emergency but not as a substitute.
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, but white gas is distilled from gasoline I think. What are the known risks of running these on gasoline consistently?
@execration_texts
@execration_texts 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishinjunky I think hes alluding to the additives in pump gas and the potential for them to affect your health. A stove-specific fuel (such as coleman) would be formulated without those.
@albedo0.392
@albedo0.392 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video. VERY useful
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bobsyeruncle4841
@bobsyeruncle4841 2 жыл бұрын
top information and testing well done sir appreciated
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@luisguillermoriveraf
@luisguillermoriveraf 3 жыл бұрын
Really good experiment! thanks for share!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@stewartbruce8902
@stewartbruce8902 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a brilliant video. I use my 425 everyday (my only cooking device), and I cook all the time. I appreciate learning that e-85 works well in my sole kitchen stove. In gratitude, all the best with good health.
@greatwhitenorthlife2327
@greatwhitenorthlife2327 2 жыл бұрын
How long does a stove last? I would have thought the burners would wear after a while.
@trustme7731
@trustme7731 Жыл бұрын
He didn't use E85. He used E10, standard auto gasoline. He did show that alcohol does not work well and E85 is 85% alcohol.
@stewartbruce8902
@stewartbruce8902 Жыл бұрын
@@trustme7731 Thank you for the clarification, and my miss understanding. All the best to you, for your input.
@stewartbruce8902
@stewartbruce8902 Жыл бұрын
@@greatwhitenorthlife2327 Yes you are correct, the burner does degrade with constant use, but I have gotton many years of use. The outer cup will disintegrate first, but the burner will still work with a damaged outer cup. Good luck with your unit, and all the best from New Rochelle N.Y.
@QuantumPyrite_88.9
@QuantumPyrite_88.9 Жыл бұрын
I don't use gasoline even in duel fuel stoves and lanterns , but I do use a small amount of acetone mixed with white gas for an occasional internal cleaning of stoves and lanterns. The key word is an Occasional burn and cleaning with aprox. 1 tablespoon acetone per quart of fuel. This also works well with lawnmowers and other internal combustion engines. Thanks for your video and all the best.
@Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon
@Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon 2 ай бұрын
The multi fuel stoves allow use of regular gas as well as the clear ethanol free because they don't have the standard coating inside the tank. The standard coating is eaten up with regular gas and becomes a problem sooner or later. That said, it'll burn just fine for some time before it clogs up.
@russbrumbelow3553
@russbrumbelow3553 5 жыл бұрын
Great information.
@albedo0.392
@albedo0.392 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video about multi fuel in Coleman camping stoves
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@skywaves5175
@skywaves5175 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't fine Coleman fuel but only Crown and haven't found any reviews on Crown white gas. This answers my questions about this brand. I will use old Coleman fuel for lanterns and new gas for stoves. Thanks for making this video.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@farmlifeoffgrid
@farmlifeoffgrid 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, we got one of these as a gift. Now I dont need to test fuels out myself
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help...
@ruihu2137
@ruihu2137 4 жыл бұрын
Great information !!! Thank you for sharing!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@scottjohnson9912
@scottjohnson9912 3 жыл бұрын
Being a prepper this is good info .
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
More on the way
@dansklrvids7303
@dansklrvids7303 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video - very helpful
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@giancarlozambiazzi8025
@giancarlozambiazzi8025 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man. Thanks a lot
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome.
@terrym3543
@terrym3543 3 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative. Would have loved to have seen how fresh gas would have performed compared to the older gas.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Older gas with ethanol, would have less energy per litre, and older gas would absorb water, having even less energy density.
@shahbhui2417
@shahbhui2417 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed testing
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@shahbhui2417
@shahbhui2417 4 жыл бұрын
@@retrotechandelectronics by any chance did you do any test on how long a tank of gas last at full power.
@weijingburr2392
@weijingburr2392 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was enlightening to say the least.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@earljklec1684
@earljklec1684 4 жыл бұрын
Great information !!! Going to get some Crown
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@2010stoof
@2010stoof Жыл бұрын
Cool test. I have a 4-5 year old can but was stored most of its life inside. Has some rust since being outside. Trying to burn through it now. Got some crown gallons from Walmart. Half the price of Coleman.
@ScampCamper
@ScampCamper 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. Based on how clean the generator looked after using the Coleman fuel, I think I'll stick with that unless it's an emeergency situation. I keep thinking about getting a Blackstone, but the Lodge 16.75" griddle fits perfectly on top of my 425 so that works for me.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would use different fuels for any old reason, I stick with coleman fuel unless I have no other means.
@seamanjive
@seamanjive 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, a lot of work there....thx
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@hemlock5396
@hemlock5396 Жыл бұрын
Very well done!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@twowitnesses2993
@twowitnesses2993 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done video RETRO. I would of liked to see the adapter used that you can use a propane cannister with just cause you have me curious now,. Excellent video, thanks..
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
I thought of it, but in a pinch nobody runs out to buy a propane adapter. that wouldnt be an emergency auxillary fuel.
@jandyke9995
@jandyke9995 2 жыл бұрын
Great review and results. On ke ro turn up the light lever for a minute before shutting down the stove, that helps to burn 3xcess fuel out of the genny. That's how the older stoves operated
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
I was not aware of this, but I guess that would purge off the rest as fumes, vice fuel.
@davidcondie1880
@davidcondie1880 2 жыл бұрын
I've just restored a 48 year old Coleman 2 burner stove and did a boil test using fresh Naptha fuel to compare results. Interestingly my time was 6:44 minutes. I may not have had the flame turned up as much and my pot size was a smaller area but taller (Hiking style pot) so the heat transfer would have been different. Still, I'm more than happy to have it working again.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
I can compare between fuels and so can you, but we cannot compare between stoves because of the variables, weather, pot metal, thickness, and other such conditions.
@tylerbug2009
@tylerbug2009 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!!!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@safffff1000
@safffff1000 4 жыл бұрын
Good testing, thanks
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Good and fun too!
@emilymcfadden4360
@emilymcfadden4360 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Only prob with kerosene if the generator will clog in short order, might work a few times b4 failure of generator.
@keithbeshears2983
@keithbeshears2983 4 жыл бұрын
So I hadn't ran either of my stoves, a 425 and a multifuel, for like 15 yeara. Both had left over coleman fuel in them from last use. 1t years. Both when I removed the fuel cap had air preasure. I closed both up. They both lit and burned on 15 year old fuel. Had 3/4 full can of coleman fuel say at least 10 year old. The upper two thirds of the can burned fine in my stoves and lantern. But the lower portion would burn in my 4wt stove but sounded like a sick jet engine. The throat of the venturi tube heated and glowed red. Amaxing what these devices do.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
The fuel is hydroscopic, theres a good chance the container may have lots of rust in it and should be cleaned out. The pressure is only caused by a difference in air temperature outside and inside the container. Eventually you end up sucking in water and rust fragments into the generator section.
@usb6009
@usb6009 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@scottjohnson9912
@scottjohnson9912 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the information .
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@semperfi-1918
@semperfi-1918 2 жыл бұрын
I got a few of these old things and have them for backup. I have the coleman 533 for the single burner gotta go carry in woods backup. Works well.
@tetrialanderror9819
@tetrialanderror9819 Жыл бұрын
Lot of good info. Thanks for taking the time to put this out. I was wondering if Sta-Bil fuel stabilizer would make much of a deference in the fouling of the generator?
@craigjohnson3603
@craigjohnson3603 6 ай бұрын
No, sta bil just puts a coating of oil on top of fuel for short term storage to keep down oxygen degeneration. Like a 3 month seasonal storage period.
@nicezz109
@nicezz109 2 жыл бұрын
good video for sharing the information.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@yoalmocalderon3197
@yoalmocalderon3197 9 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO VERY HELPFUL 😊
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@sherryn39455
@sherryn39455 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad I finally found someone who actually used gas , I have been afraid to try it. I guess I thought that gas would just blow up if lit..
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Naphtha (whitegas) is just distilled petrol. Thats coleman fuel.
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 3 жыл бұрын
what he said, white gas is still pretty much gasoline
@kfl611
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
I used 'white gas' in a coleman lamp, I didn't know it was gasoline. And when it is first lit, it shoots up a flame like 4 feet high. I was lucky I didn't melt my face off. After it is lit a few minutes and all the parts heat up, is calms down. I didn't know camp fuel was gas - like gasoline you ran in your car. And you can't beat a coleman, they were built to last forever.
@stryngh
@stryngh 2 жыл бұрын
Very convincing, thank you!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@sethjohnson6539
@sethjohnson6539 2 жыл бұрын
Great job !
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@OsmanKErol
@OsmanKErol Жыл бұрын
I'm using RUG. Before lighting the stove, I always preheat the generator with a blow torch, then start using the stove with the lever down position from the start. Pure blue flames without any flares.
@nathanduckeorth806
@nathanduckeorth806 6 ай бұрын
Very good test,I have wondered about the use of regular gasoline being cheaper or if it would actually even work! But I see the Colman fuel burns cleaner, for as much as I use mine think I'll just use the correct Colman fuel!!!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 6 ай бұрын
It’s always recommended. But good to know what to use in an emergency
@jonyjonsy
@jonyjonsy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for doing the kerosene as well. (This means diesel will just fine! Kero and diesel are very very similar) 😊
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Lots have asked me to do a separate diesel video
@BarkingPup
@BarkingPup 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I'm slowly moving more off grid in my trailer and I hate propane. Super difficult to fill 100 lb tanks; heaters use propane like it costs .00001 a lb; more than one item that uses it and you need a ton of pipes, adaptors, etc etc; if you only want one off grid fuel propane doesn't cover everything. I have a dual fuel stove and a catalytic heater. Looking for a lamp, which is somehow more difficult. The less fuels I have to carry around and store, the better!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
White gas works. But isnt cheap.
@mikemorgan5015
@mikemorgan5015 10 күн бұрын
Nice work. You got some interesting results. But to get meaningful, accurate, repeatable results, you need to do all the tests exactly the same with the only variable being fuel type. The amount of fuel added and the pump count need to be the same for all the tests. This is not easy, since some fuels take more, or less, time to reach operating temp. In "Up To Light" mode, LOTS of tank air is being consumed. Ballpark estimate for this is about one pump per second of "Up To Light" operation. The only way to really keep things equal is to have a pressure gauge or use a constant pressure air supply to the tank. It's doable, but you'll need a compressor and you'll have to sacrifice a fuel filler cap to rig this up. Something to think about. The importance of maintaining good tank pressure cannot be over emphasized with these stoves. The claim that in the 'Up To Light" position, the stove is running on only vapors from the top of the tank is incorrect. While those vapors ARE flammable, they are not concentrated enough to produce a burnable fuel/air mixture once they mix with ambient air in the mixing chamber of the bunsen. "Up To Light" restricts, but doesn't cut off, liquid fuel from the bottom of the tank. High speed, high volume air from the top of the tank rushes by the restricted opening at the liquid fuel pickup, atomizing it into a spray that IS rich enough to burn, yet is still, more air than liquid, to keep the generator from flooding until operating temperature of the generator is reached.
@franciscosaavedrazepeda4065
@franciscosaavedrazepeda4065 9 ай бұрын
Very good job
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 9 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@rchristie5401
@rchristie5401 4 жыл бұрын
great job!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@anthonycolbourne4206
@anthonycolbourne4206 2 ай бұрын
Coleman does also make "dual fuel" models of their stoves that have modified generator elements that are more tolerant to "dirtier" burning fuels like regular gasoline.
@smky143
@smky143 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I love kerosene and don't mind the smell. I've never had any go bad on me.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Its not my first choice.
@mdenny6044
@mdenny6044 Жыл бұрын
No doubt you probably know this about kerosene by now: if you use a propane torch to heat up the full length of the generator before you open the valve you won’t get the soot and smelly kerosene odor. If you take a lesson from the old Coleman kerosene burning lanterns you’ll see the spirit cup surrounding the base of the generator. This is so you can preheat the generator to a temperature that vaporizes the kerosene. Roughly 428 degrees F. Then when you open the valve the kerosene immediately vaporizes, mixes with air and burns with a nice hot blue flame. No soot. No smell. Just very hot blue flame for cooking your food etc.
@earljklec1684
@earljklec1684 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks you helped me a lot
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@whatyoumakeofit6635
@whatyoumakeofit6635 5 жыл бұрын
So very useful infovin this vid.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 5 жыл бұрын
Turn out, even old gasoline works quite well when you need a stove to cook on.
@billyjoedenny
@billyjoedenny 4 жыл бұрын
good info my friend billy joe
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx!
@JCWren
@JCWren Жыл бұрын
Probably someone else said this, but it's probably more a case of the volatile components evaporating in the old fuel than it is absorbing moisture. Gasoline is the most volatile of those fuels you tested, and there's just something about a pressurized tank of gasoline that I find a little uncomfortable. Of course, since they're all volatile to some extent, and all pressurized, it's probably like "would you rather have 1/2 of a stick of dynamite or 1/3 of a stick of dynamite go off in your hand?" :) Coleman actually said something about burning gasoline, and I think you'll find yourself cleaning the system more often because of the detergents and other additives. They do say you can use white gas, which was straight gasoline with no additives, but you can't find that anymore.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
No doubt, in the end, Whitegas is the way to go.
@jimeckenrode1271
@jimeckenrode1271 2 жыл бұрын
great video.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@archer71au
@archer71au 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!! proved my point as to why this is the ONLY stove I pack when camping!! oh your outta propane/Gas.. hehehe .. try one of these buddy!!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 3 жыл бұрын
*runs out of fuel* just siphon a cup from the car tank and you're cookin!
@danburch9989
@danburch9989 9 ай бұрын
To burn alcohol in those stoves, the orifice needs to be larger to get more fuel to mix with the air. That's why alcohol burns a little better with the lever up. It takes a resizing of the generator's orifice. Otherwise, you're burning a lean mixture. The generator turns the liquid fuel from tne tank into a vapor.
@daviddulansey8044
@daviddulansey8044 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks JC!!!
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome.
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