Antique Rc series. Video 3. "lets talk brushed motors and tips/tricks to making them faster!"

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Todays video is video 3 in the series. And we cover the topic of Old Brushed motors used to race with, what to look for , and how to identify what is what. But also how to rebuild and modify one to make them go faster, and borderline cheating! years ago that is... :)
These were motors we used back in the mid 90's

[@urge251980]

This was excellent man I had a good laugh! Nice lil collection you have there!

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

Thanks !

[@bgomusicco]

I saw the green machine and instantly got brought bake.. I loved the video.

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

Glad you like it, I love messing with the old stuff.

[@DrDiff952]

Back in that time, stock was defined as 1 wire wrapped around each pole of the armature 27 times with fixed timing. Modified motors had adjustable timing you could have single double triple or 4 wires the more wires the broader the powerband fewer turns around the poles would give more rpms

[@theodorathanasiadis6629]

Nice video epic can ,team fat losi armature 13x5.Low rpm but lot of torque.

[@Zeros_Hobbies]

Ha i have that same green machine motor, great job.

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

One of the most iconic motors of its time was the green machine.

[@Ultra-Collector]

What,no D4,Monster,or CRC motors? Those are what i have a bunch of from the 80’s,90’s and early 2000! I have a few green machines too from then because they were $35 and worked great for drifting in the 90’s,they are worthless for anything else! Cool vid!

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

green machines use to be one of the best race motors , but this would have been 92-93 era. still most of them work just fine and can be used, but rather pointless, glad you liked the video

[@7272nighthawk]

I had one called revenge of the monster it was a roar legal 27 turn but it had all the tricks limited timing ball bearings and a hollow armature it ran faster than a lot of modded motors !!!

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

im not shocked at all honestly.

[@GreatBirdOfHope]

Thats like the trinity P2K2

[@BC-ly7py]

Do you know the turn of the orange label peak performance you tested? Great video btw!

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

It is a peak performance "psycho stock with competition brushed" 36t motor.

[@IRONCaptainPanic]

I just got a box of these and I'm wondering what the yellow and blue things which I think are capacitors for? And I got an ESC like that. And what did your dad do to that motor to make it faster? I am trying to figure out what I can do to these old vintage motors and if I can swap out the parts to make it faster?

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

The capacitors are to help with power draw, esp larger mod motors. As for making them faster. Polish the coms on them. Replace bushings with bearings. And better brushes and springs. I just dont know if they still make those old parts anymore.

[@bry0ung]

Here is a shot in the dark: Can you think of an improved motor for these Mini/B/T's that have, I believe, the 280? Cheers.

[@barspinsallday]

Maybe try a regular 550 12t motor?

[@rcmodcars7759]

Great vídeo bro I'm searching for a very powerful brushed motor Because I have a stock 540 in my rc and y want to increase the top speed so which is the most powerful 540 550 motor out there?

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

me personally , look into older used trinity motors on ebay, that is like a 12 turn motor. But if your wanting new, you dont have many options for a brushed motor. but this is what id suggest from what i can see on amain. www.amainhobbies.com/yeah-racing-hackmoto-v2-540-brushed-motor-17t-yea-mt-0018/p529876

[@rcmodcars7759]

@@ChrisPatrickRC thank you!I was searching for a long time a powerful and quality motor thank you so much🙌

[@brabbit2902]

rc mod cars what car is it for

[@rcmodcars7759]

wltoys a959b version

[@77drisaac]

Do u know how many turns in a Trinity D3.5 brushed motor?

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

15x3 so a 15 turn modified motor , it was a good motor back in the day!

[@dustinplee5067]

What is the fastest brushed motor my friend gave me a Himoto Bowie E10MT 4x4 And I’m trying to figure out what is the fastest brushed motor that would get me in the top speed of 25 to 35 kilometers with a 16t 32p pinion

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

sorry, i wouldnt have a clue besides a lower turn number, the faster it will go.

[@cammyseam1825]

The motors not working? Try plugging in the positive wire.

[@rickrathbun5236]

How do you tell the poles postive or negative ?

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

Last i remember it doesn't matter. It all depends on how the motor is installed and if the motor is going backwards then flip the wires or change it in your radio. But some can lids are labeled.

[@michaelchristensen6884]

Any idea if a single winding versus a double winding is faster or has more torque?

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

In theory, key word is theory, a single winding motor will use less power to run the same speed as a dual winding armature , but without a way to fully bench test it, I can't 100% say thags correct but if I was guessing I'm about 80% right. It takes more energy to spin dual winding motors. Also single operate quieter as well.

[@michaelchristensen6884]

@@ChrisPatrickRC So does a single winding thicker wire rotate faster or create more torque? A thinner wire more torque or faster?

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

@@michaelchristensen6884 not that I would be aware of because there wound to a specific turn rating. So if that was the case people would be cheating by using different size wiring.

[@michaelchristensen6884]

@@ChrisPatrickRC so my next question for you. Which is better to connect the ends of the wires, a delta, or Y combine the wires in the end? I know Y is easier to connect but I believe Delta is better.

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

@@michaelchristensen6884 directly soldered is the best option. We use to use deans plus to make it more convient when racing to swap motors or pull one out to do maintence. But a direct soldered connection without plugs is your best option. If you wanted plugs , what ever you want to run will be fine.

[@amw4736]

Great video. Most of your "more cost effective" RC's today still come with brushed motors. I think brushed motors are awesome. There is so much hype about brushless. However where is the logic in taking the same vehicle that is brushed and changing out the motor and ESC to something that costs the manufacturer maybe another 5.00 and the the car jumps in price by 100.00. It just shows how stupid consumers are. My question is I have a 380 brushed motor car. I want to make it go faster. I want to just swap out an better motor. So I just buy a 380 motor that is like 40,000 rpm? the car came with a chinese 380 motor so I'm thinking its probably around 16,000 RPM...what would you suggest? do you know of a name brand 380 motor that is really fast? Thanks for any help!

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

The 380 platform is the killer , you dont have many options. Tamiya sport tuned 380, 12$ or traxxas titan 380 18t for 18$ , or a ready cr380 crawler is your main options

[@amw4736]

@@ChrisPatrickRC what you buy? the tamiya or the traxxas? for best top speed and performance?

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

@@amw4736 if you want speed I'd go with the traxxas, it's a 18t motor. The tamiya is a 27t. Your motor you have now is probably a 32t ish. There all cheap enough, traxxas motors are just hit or miss. That's my only hesitation with traxxas.

[@amw4736]

@@ChrisPatrickRC great I will pull the trigger on the tamiya...thanks again!

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

@@amw4736 no problem at all. Just remember when you start modifying stuff esp motors , things start breaking more and faster, so I think your making the right decision. Worst case buy them both and see which one you like better.

[@nexiussuixen7078]

Sir good day do you sell your old motors A. Viewer from philipines or give them away cause i have a mini drag boat project and i need a motor as a engine in my mini drag boat or In our local language called mini banca or mini banca rera

[@faiqcreates]

All i wanna know is how do i make brushed motor last longer

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

maintenance , keeping the bushings oiled , clean, and not over heating them, and they will last you a really LONG time. as most of the motors you see in this video are over 20 years old.

[@rd-mu2vj]

Busted out my old rc10… has a green machine 3 in it, I know the motor is still good but obviously my old batteries are shot, was wondering what new NiMh batteries you would recommend…not sure to get now and don’t want to burn it out. Thanks

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

Just buy a new hobbywing esc that runs lipo and a brushed motor like a 1080 I think is the model and be done with it Nimh is way to outdated to even buy. Lipo are cheap and so much better.

[@MyNguyen-hz9qz]

how can you tell if a brushed motor is stock or modified??

[@MyNguyen-hz9qz]

by just looking at the motor and not testing it

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

Newer ones have a tag on the rotor where the windings are. Its how they can identify them without tearing them apart. But the copper windings is what makes the turn. Of it its only wound 5 times. Then its a 5 turn motor. The higher the turn the more resistance your adding so less power draw is consumed.

[@reriley2002]

They’re marked

[@davebernal7790]

Can I have one Old motor? I really Appreciate it if you give me one😇

[@davebernal7790]

Im one of your Subscriber😊

[@billbergen9169]

Buy one they're not expensive.

[@davebernal7790]

@@billbergen9169 Im from Philippines and here is so expensive Im just hoping that you have unused motors😅

[@billbergen9169]

@@davebernal7790 i live in canada, here we have kijiji, but sadly idk what sources u have over there

[@davebernal7790]

@@billbergen9169 ow yeah I see😥 Im just really a big fan of your motors I hope you can Send me motors here in Philippines🙁

[@teamcrc1]

Putting ball bearings in a 27 turn stock motor was not legal within ROAR rules.

[@ChrisPatrickRC]

also one of many reasons why people dont race these motors anymore.

[@nickvledder]

The motors are still the same. It is the LiPo that changed racing the most.