Best Moment: Fortuny Delphos Gown, ca. 1920

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What's the mystery behind these famous pleats? Watch Katy Kane's appraisal of a Fortuny Delphos Gown, ca. 1920, in Hotel del Coronado, Hour 1.
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@Mrjonrayasha
@Mrjonrayasha 4 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to actually be able to handle one of these dresses, it was dyed in a light blue, and my gosh was it an amazing dress to see and be lucky enough to thouch it.
@samwilson188
@samwilson188 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! You’re so lucky! How did you get to handle it?
@darvoid66
@darvoid66 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really good one. I loved the appraiser. She was very descriptive and knew all about the maker of the dress and the guy was great too.
@YellowOfTheTide
@YellowOfTheTide 4 жыл бұрын
What a wholesome guy, and a fantastic presentation overall. Stunning dress!
@truelytreasured3990
@truelytreasured3990 4 жыл бұрын
Good for them! He is such a lovable character ❤ I bet his wife is just as adorable as he is
@henkgaas9446
@henkgaas9446 4 жыл бұрын
I am not really into clothing but this is a piece or art... Imagine a beauty from the 1920's like Louise Brooks in such a dress... !
@shellylyon6365
@shellylyon6365 4 жыл бұрын
Oooo, that would be stunning!
@57z
@57z Жыл бұрын
There are currently two Fortuny dresses for sale by different sellers on Etsy as I write this. One for $11k the other for $12.5k. Both sleeveless and lighter colors. I think the dress in the video is a bit nicer due to the length of cut, appraisal seems about right.
@ClifDickens
@ClifDickens 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm never going to be able to talk to my wife again."
@LaurenOrion
@LaurenOrion 3 жыл бұрын
Such a precious man!!
@scarletred8888
@scarletred8888 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely man! His reaction was great!
@megalopolis2015
@megalopolis2015 4 жыл бұрын
Breathtaking. I'd wear it in a heartbeat.
@oliviacooley1195
@oliviacooley1195 4 жыл бұрын
Best reaction ever!!!
@judeonine5525
@judeonine5525 2 жыл бұрын
What a sweet old man
@karaamundson3964
@karaamundson3964 2 жыл бұрын
Sweetheart of a guy!
@teresaweaver1012
@teresaweaver1012 4 жыл бұрын
It's a magnificent piece of art, but if I owned it, I would have to TURN UP somewhere at least one time in it. Wowsa...it's 🔥.
@oldfrend
@oldfrend 4 жыл бұрын
girl you ain't lyin. if some movie star showed up at the met gala wearing this beauty she'd be the queen of the night instead of the garbage the trashy hos wear these days. THEN she could auction it off XD
@andrewptob
@andrewptob 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a woman with a great figure wear that dress.
@marywebb9127
@marywebb9127 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful dress❤️
@lepolhart3242
@lepolhart3242 4 жыл бұрын
The evening dress Lady Mary wears in the Downton Abbey movie is based on the Fortuny pleated dresses as the costume designers managed to get a pattern and recreate a Fortuny dress.
@athenathegreatandpowerful6365
@athenathegreatandpowerful6365 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. The gown Lady Mary wears is a real 1920s Delphos. NOT a recreation.
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 4 жыл бұрын
I worked in couture in Paris, we used to have these pleats done by asking for Fortuny pleating, maybe not the identical technique but visually the same.
@davidcattin7006
@davidcattin7006 3 жыл бұрын
Issey Miyake did what looks like similar pleating -- Issey Miyake and his design team have been experimenting with and refining their pleating technique since 1988. The groundbreaking method - by which pleats are applied after the fabric is cut and sewn - is a revolutionary departure from traditional process. mds.isseymiyake.com/mds/en/collection/ See also - www.thecuttingclass.com/mccanrtney-miyake-fortuny/
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidcattin7006 Yes he did. I worked in couture all my life and we used to use Lognon for pleating ( now Chanel owned) and they did a good 'Fortuny' pleating or 'Venetian' pleating. It was also called 'bijoux' pleating.The problem with this sort of pleating is that as it is on silk it doesn't hold its pleat. Fortuny found a way around this by keeping the dresses twisted up like yarn. Pleating on sythetic fabric keep their shape better but of course are not as nice. I loved going to Lognon to explain our ideas and he was always enthousiastic about his work. He also did our buttons, belts and buckles. One year I was looking for ideas for a designer I was with and he rooked out his old button molds and we had great fun making many odd combination buttons that the designer loved and used in his collection. This partially revived his button making for others. The workrooms were in an old building with high ceilings and all lined in oak cupboards and drawers. I think that they are now moved to a modern place as real estate often chases these artisans out of these wonderful premises in favour of domestic living unfortunately. Best wishes .
@davidcattin7006
@davidcattin7006 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFiown Wonderful story! Bet you have many more.
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidcattin7006 Well over forty years in couture has it's benefits, many lessons learnt. Many stories under my belt, maybe a book one day.
@davidcattin7006
@davidcattin7006 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFiown Oh, please do! I'll want an autographed copy!
@stevie68a
@stevie68a 4 жыл бұрын
There's a painting of Gloria Vanderbilt wearing one of these. Google Image it.
@tommyjakks
@tommyjakks 4 жыл бұрын
Later that evening he listed the dress on eBay
@macsloan58
@macsloan58 3 жыл бұрын
Appraiser is a great looking lady.
@MsPearlJam123
@MsPearlJam123 Жыл бұрын
Did it belong to Pavlova?
@SouthernArtist77
@SouthernArtist77 2 ай бұрын
$50? Wow!
@finddeniro
@finddeniro 4 жыл бұрын
In the the 1990's I saw a Fashion display of Hollywood's fashions from the 1930's and 1940s. Ah struck. .Dress up Ladys. .
@CRYDERSB
@CRYDERSB Жыл бұрын
“Wife” 😁
@michaelleftwich8186
@michaelleftwich8186 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Morticia Adams wears in those movies.
@coreyfairbanks7374
@coreyfairbanks7374 3 жыл бұрын
Munsters?
@oldfrend
@oldfrend 4 жыл бұрын
i wonder how tall the original owner was, cuz it looks like it's the right height for that dude, and he looks pretty tall.
@martiwalsh2069
@martiwalsh2069 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they shared their incredible good fortune with the original owner who sold it to them for $50?
@Dirtnap1986
@Dirtnap1986 4 жыл бұрын
Why? That was 30 to 40 something years ago! Plus the lady who sold it was elderly. She's probably deceased by now.
@aimeecurry9774
@aimeecurry9774 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know a lot about dresses but I know who wears the pants in his family.
@dbrel
@dbrel 4 жыл бұрын
If it’s really his wife’s dress, where is she?? I have a suspicion it’s his instead of any wife. There likely is no wife.
@Weebs_00
@Weebs_00 4 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one by the thumbnail thought it was the chicks wife who got it?
@janeanf123
@janeanf123 4 жыл бұрын
My wife, my wife, my wife, your wife. Good grief!
@SuperSkinandHairCare
@SuperSkinandHairCare 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE his reaction!!! That dress is so gorgeous...and, I learned a lot about the designer and his process of pleating.
@yellowwoodstraveler
@yellowwoodstraveler 4 жыл бұрын
Well tell them please. They have no idea how he made those pleats!
@davidcattin7006
@davidcattin7006 3 жыл бұрын
Issey Miyake did pleating too -- Issey Miyake and his design team have been experimenting with and refining their pleating technique since 1988. The groundbreaking method - by which pleats are applied after the fabric is cut and sewn - is a revolutionary departure from traditional process. mds.isseymiyake.com/mds/en/collection/ See also - www.thecuttingclass.com/mccanrtney-miyake-fortuny/
@jamesluby6705
@jamesluby6705 2 жыл бұрын
Darling, we're going on a world cruise, I'll buy you a new dress... 🤪
@mattmayo3539
@mattmayo3539 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t wash it You can’t dry clean it You can’t sit down And none of that matters. It’s fabulous
@MISNM0
@MISNM0 Жыл бұрын
😁
@PatriotTwin
@PatriotTwin Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Oh, and you can't walk in it, either. So, pretty much useless!
@redwoods7370
@redwoods7370 4 жыл бұрын
Morticia Addams would love it! And Gomez would go wild over it.
@kanukster
@kanukster 4 жыл бұрын
My first thought!
@mooshuguy5141
@mooshuguy5141 4 жыл бұрын
"Tish! You spoke French!"
@CR-zx2zi
@CR-zx2zi 4 жыл бұрын
Cara Mia!
@Jesse__H
@Jesse__H 4 жыл бұрын
_begins barrage of kisses from fingertip on up the arm_
@gaylewieneke7084
@gaylewieneke7084 4 жыл бұрын
I live it when you speak French Tish.
@stacythomas1587
@stacythomas1587 2 жыл бұрын
This gentleman had one of the most genuine and sweetest reactions to a quote in all the years of AR. Some people just stand or sit there expressionless when told their possession they bought for $10 is worth thousands lol.
@WoodlandDance
@WoodlandDance Жыл бұрын
:45 in the video, the gentlemen says his wife paid 50.00 for the dress, and 2.00 for the book in which there was a picture of the dress
@XX-gy7ue
@XX-gy7ue 4 жыл бұрын
THAT SHOULD BE IN THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM , WITH A ROOM ESPECIALLY DEDICATED TO EXHIBITING IT ! it would be such a shame if this gets lost ! IT'S MAGNIFICENT !
@themarquis336
@themarquis336 4 жыл бұрын
X X lol don’t worry, they have many of them...
@blondieeastwood9120
@blondieeastwood9120 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah...nice piece of crap...
@owenmccord5078
@owenmccord5078 3 жыл бұрын
“It would be a shame if it gets lost;” sounds like you’re trying to shake them down😂
@XX-gy7ue
@XX-gy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
@@themarquis336 , not so !
@XX-gy7ue
@XX-gy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
@@blondieeastwood9120 , only to an imbecile !
@jmatt4life
@jmatt4life 4 жыл бұрын
Morticia Adams style immediately popped into my head. What a pleasant surprise to realize that a 52 dollar investment had such a great return!
@RuffianTux
@RuffianTux 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you said it because I was just about to comment how "Morticia" it seemed. Very sexy and elegant.
@asmrlistening5945
@asmrlistening5945 4 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised it's worth so little! It's a piece of incredible history, but people will drop more than that on some ugly modern wedding gown
@Lonewolfmike
@Lonewolfmike 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, it could probably go for a lot more than what she said. You get the correct people in the bidding at the time and the sky is the limit. I have seen and heard of a few Roadshow finds that went nuts at auction.
@kg192
@kg192 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I’d say 35-50K
@Goomlahexpress
@Goomlahexpress 4 жыл бұрын
They always like to be conservative
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 2 жыл бұрын
So true. That dress is everything!
@iamwindchakra
@iamwindchakra 4 жыл бұрын
It's a gorgeous dress!
@Angelaius
@Angelaius 3 жыл бұрын
Fabrics are one of the most fragile materials on earth. The fact they kept this dress in this condition shows real love and professional care. You cant put textile in light or it will be damaged. Acidic enviroment such as an acidic wrapping paper also damage clothes. Looks brand new. Amazing.
@englishruraldoggynerd
@englishruraldoggynerd 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That’s definitely a museum piece. Definitely. It’s timeless, and an utter classic.
@lisaindahouse1304
@lisaindahouse1304 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to mention how these MUST BE STORED. You have to twist the dress up to store it.
@mikesmith-pj7xz
@mikesmith-pj7xz 4 жыл бұрын
don't need to wear anything under it...ok;-)
@RonGee
@RonGee 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, surprised that no one has been able to reproduce the pleating. it seems like such a desirable feature.
@Lonewolfmike
@Lonewolfmike 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is there have been those who have tried.
@lostasadorespr
@lostasadorespr 4 жыл бұрын
Give it a month and China will be selling them on "WISH"
@FlourescentPotato
@FlourescentPotato 3 жыл бұрын
probably hyperbole
@Kahli21
@Kahli21 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlourescentPotato It's not. Nobody knows exactly how he created the pleats, they're really particular and unique. Most other pleated silk can be cleaned and maintain the pleating, but not the Fortuny pleats.
@davidcattin7006
@davidcattin7006 3 жыл бұрын
Issey Miyake did pleating that looks similar -- Issey Miyake and his design team have been experimenting with and refining their pleating technique since 1988. The groundbreaking method - by which pleats are applied after the fabric is cut and sewn - is a revolutionary departure from traditional process. mds.isseymiyake.com/mds/en/collection/ See also - www.thecuttingclass.com/mccanrtney-miyake-fortuny/
@pamelawing626
@pamelawing626 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a Fortuny exhibit when I was in Paris in 2017. He had an amazing history, He was French, lived in Iraly and in the beginning all the pleats were done by hand. He then came up with a method for pleating by a machine of some kind. Amazing to see in person.
@waynealexander1615
@waynealexander1615 4 жыл бұрын
He was not French. He was Spanish. Mariano Fortuny.
@pamelawing626
@pamelawing626 4 жыл бұрын
@@waynealexander1615 You ARE correct, mia culpa and I KNEW that.
@lisamelroy2855
@lisamelroy2855 2 жыл бұрын
Not quite the same, but I went to an Edith Head exhibit a few years ago, and it was remarkable to be able to see some of her creations up close - I was awed.
@TheJennyg76
@TheJennyg76 3 жыл бұрын
I’d throw the most glamorous party just to wear this dress. It’s absolutely stunning
@MrStGeorgeIllawarra
@MrStGeorgeIllawarra 3 жыл бұрын
Very Mortica Addams.
@larsberglund
@larsberglund 4 жыл бұрын
Holy moly, what a dress! I would probably marry any woman wearing it.
@KlLLERROBOT99
@KlLLERROBOT99 2 жыл бұрын
His reaction was just so genuine and full of absolute shock
@davidcattin7006
@davidcattin7006 3 жыл бұрын
"No one's been able to duplicate it." I'm no expert but recalled that Issey Miyake was known for pleated fabrics that were novel for their time. "Issey Miyake and his design team have been experimenting with and refining their pleating technique since 1988. The groundbreaking method - by which pleats are applied after the fabric is cut and sewn - is a revolutionary departure from traditional process." mds.isseymiyake.com/mds/en/collection/ Ah, my memory serves. Seems someone else has made a connection: In the recent Stella McCartney collection, there were some beautifully pleated garments that were reminiscent of the work of two very different designers, from two very different eras. The first was Mario Fortuny and the second was Issey Miyake. www.thecuttingclass.com/mccanrtney-miyake-fortuny/
@oo7naughtyusmaximus933
@oo7naughtyusmaximus933 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about dresses....but this dressmaker was ahead of his time.
@kelpiecoco7570
@kelpiecoco7570 3 жыл бұрын
Not completely sure if it's the same Fortuny but I wouldn't be surprised. Fortuny is also the name of an Italian designer fabric house. They sell exquisite fabrics, generally only available through members of the design trade, such as interior designers. They are famous for their hand block stamped and painted silk fabrics, which I'm fairly certain is how they still do it today. Many of their fabrics sell for $400.00 per yard and up. I used to sell designer fabric remnants and I always loved seeing their pieces.
@RonGee
@RonGee 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why his wife wasn't there if it's her dress. It sounded like she's still alive.
@snnetteachexnayder63
@snnetteachexnayder63 3 жыл бұрын
I agree I was wondering in the same way, I would have loved to see the woman whom collects vintage clothing and what was the look on her face. Where is she?
@PK-mx7nf
@PK-mx7nf 3 жыл бұрын
Some people don't want to be on TV. Crazy, I know.
@AMGGchan
@AMGGchan 4 жыл бұрын
I watched a show called “A Stitch in Time” and it’s based around fashion and this time period, she makes a fake delphos.
@farmerconnie9131
@farmerconnie9131 4 жыл бұрын
Krystal Jang i loved. That show! Sira the seamstress. It’s based on a book, which is fantastic too
@molliemandell5017
@molliemandell5017 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent book and show but it was called “The Time in Between” written by Maria Duenas.
@jonahlloydrosenberg
@jonahlloydrosenberg 3 жыл бұрын
But they didn't say anything about Pavlova! Surely its having been worn by the great ballerina adds interest if not value?
@PuReGhOsTT
@PuReGhOsTT 3 жыл бұрын
it is absolutely insane that this was created 100 years ago! The cloth, beads, etc are over 100 years old!
@HunterShows
@HunterShows Жыл бұрын
I was wondering where the wife was, I assumed she was dead and then he said "she'll be overjoyed" lol
@MsTUDORSFAN
@MsTUDORSFAN 2 жыл бұрын
That's not how you pronounce Fortuny. The ny in catalan is pronounced like the spanish ñ.
@bretaskinner3143
@bretaskinner3143 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Ms Kane wasn't wearing gloves while touching the dress.
@reenougle
@reenougle 4 жыл бұрын
A work of art. I especially love the other colourful Fortunys I have seen in photos. Absolutely exquisite.
@ZedZerps
@ZedZerps 2 жыл бұрын
So how can it be cleaned? How does it look clean now?
@TheGabygael
@TheGabygael 9 ай бұрын
*his wife made the dresses
@fortunatoofamontillado1059
@fortunatoofamontillado1059 3 жыл бұрын
Such a delightful gentleman
@Ratguitar58
@Ratguitar58 4 жыл бұрын
Morticia Adams dress 😎👍
@sparklebutt1119
@sparklebutt1119 4 жыл бұрын
You can only wear it when standing. 🤣
@69A12SuperBee
@69A12SuperBee 4 жыл бұрын
Rick from Pawn Stars: "The best I can do is $100.00 and I'm taking a chance at that"
@zeedavis5300
@zeedavis5300 4 жыл бұрын
That dress is amazing. Truly the appraisal reflects the labor of love that went into it's creation.
@letmetellyousomething123
@letmetellyousomething123 3 жыл бұрын
Magnificent Dress. A work of Art.
@jamesmcdonald6699
@jamesmcdonald6699 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful reaction!
@zeedavis5300
@zeedavis5300 4 жыл бұрын
Honey, please.. that's not his wife's purchase. He picked it out himself. 🤔🤣😂
@gurruto
@gurruto 4 жыл бұрын
for?
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 4 жыл бұрын
His wife might be a dude too.
@ferociousfive7396
@ferociousfive7396 4 жыл бұрын
The beads alone are very precious
@TheJennyg76
@TheJennyg76 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I’d love to wear this dress
@welcometorenland
@welcometorenland 2 жыл бұрын
His reaction made my entire week! Never doubt the wives you guys, we're always right
@golden8972
@golden8972 4 жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to try it on!
@mortisha8693
@mortisha8693 3 жыл бұрын
How do you walk in that? And then when you stop someone would have to arrange the pleats around your feet?
@vincentmarotta9800
@vincentmarotta9800 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, hope he sold it to a museum or something. Then I hope people could study the dress to figure out the pleating methodology. To me it looks like a giant trash bag (solely due to the color and wrinkles/pleating), but the overall shape and composition/design of the dress is just perfect. I love dresses that hug a woman's body like this. Classy and reminds me of a stylish jazzy time.
@canuckpagali
@canuckpagali Жыл бұрын
I think many women of many different body types could look good in this dress. Lovely, simple, elegant, classic design!
@tongsllc
@tongsllc 3 жыл бұрын
This dress is subtly beautiful
@AstralDragoon
@AstralDragoon Жыл бұрын
It's one thing to have an antique that is rare due to limited production; it's quite another to have one that is literally impossible to duplicate because no one alive knows how.
@slyfox2049
@slyfox2049 4 жыл бұрын
They ripped the old lady off.
@EM2theBee
@EM2theBee 4 жыл бұрын
I love this guy, but every time he says wife I imagine he's saying the word in air quotes.
@ginaheller333
@ginaheller333 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the giggle!
@truecrimerip7936
@truecrimerip7936 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened to that dress since the show.
@gregoryhoover2388
@gregoryhoover2388 3 жыл бұрын
Guessing this gay dude bought the dress and there is no wife. Always hiding his ring finger...
@hiawathasbrother
@hiawathasbrother Жыл бұрын
Apparently this is a dress that you cannot clean, cannot sit down in, and cannot walk in.
@evanferris5035
@evanferris5035 3 жыл бұрын
This women sounds identical to Corey Feldman.
@ruthgunneson-poling1571
@ruthgunneson-poling1571 3 жыл бұрын
I like how bored the appraiser acts. And she is not wearing gloves.
@campbelldutch75
@campbelldutch75 3 жыл бұрын
What a nice guy and I’d bet his wife is just as nice !
@ericplunder2744
@ericplunder2744 3 жыл бұрын
What a lovely man.
@yesman3601
@yesman3601 4 жыл бұрын
1:45 “Amazingly sexy” “OH YES” 😳
@ravingcyclist624
@ravingcyclist624 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Fun to see.
@ariochiv
@ariochiv 4 жыл бұрын
What a sweet man.
@peace-yv4qd
@peace-yv4qd 3 жыл бұрын
Kaitlin Jenner is salivating.
@alexpond648
@alexpond648 2 жыл бұрын
His wife has a very good eye.
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 3 жыл бұрын
lucky guy!
@AFAskygoddess
@AFAskygoddess 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if they put this dress up for auction?
@AshtonColby
@AshtonColby 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning
@queencerseilannister3519
@queencerseilannister3519 2 жыл бұрын
What a GORGEOUS gown!! I couldn't imagine the level of wealth the woman who owned this had to have.
@jamesconnolly9591
@jamesconnolly9591 3 жыл бұрын
EleGanT LoVelY Well Well Well STyliSh ClaSSy DreSS.......
@elizabethjackson8328
@elizabethjackson8328 3 жыл бұрын
"I" couldn't wear it but once. Too sweaty. Beautiful.
@jacksonparker3671
@jacksonparker3671 3 жыл бұрын
vintage dresses are getting more and more popular. Price will only go up
@michaeldelahunty2440
@michaeldelahunty2440 4 жыл бұрын
OOOOH ! if every woman on the planet ,had a figure like this
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