ANTM Stylist FIGHTS With Plus Size Model During Photoshoot

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Jessica Kobeissi

Jessica Kobeissi

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@CarboneCat
@CarboneCat 3 ай бұрын
It’s horrible how Toccara was treated. Toccara has done a gorgeous Italian Vogue spread proved the haters wrong. She’s a true queen.
@Thechimeradragon-xc9tq
@Thechimeradragon-xc9tq 3 ай бұрын
Everyone knew something was up. I am so happy everyone is talking now
@JEPiper
@JEPiper 3 ай бұрын
Jokes on those a-holes: Toccara posed for Vogue later on.
@afrosamuraiwarrior
@afrosamuraiwarrior 3 ай бұрын
😲 oh really?
@thagaygaymer1983
@thagaygaymer1983 3 ай бұрын
​@@afrosamuraiwarrior Vogue Italia 😊
@afrosamuraiwarrior
@afrosamuraiwarrior 3 ай бұрын
@@thagaygaymer1983 Oh wow! Thanks for letting me know!
@lindseycassella3015
@lindseycassella3015 3 ай бұрын
Yeah she's thriving!
@extinctbaryonyx
@extinctbaryonyx 3 ай бұрын
Yasss and not just that, she was photographed by the Iconic Steven Meisel Himself!
@crowlynna
@crowlynna 3 ай бұрын
They loved to humiliate girls. If they never had the right clothes for Toccara then why even let her be a part of the competition? They can't complain about Toccara's size if they literally let her on the show. Toccara is beautiful and I loved her personality. She has the personality that deserves to have her own tv show.
@leeleegrace9015
@leeleegrace9015 3 ай бұрын
The fact that they pick Toccarra to be on the show knowing her size only to criticize her for her size every single episode, say that she could never be a top model and make her feel bad about herself is just disgusting to me. Watching all of this back really pisses me off. But Toccarra definitely got the last laugh. It was really nice to see Tyra stand up for her. I just wish you would have done this for other girls on other seasons
@giancarlorodriguez8623
@giancarlorodriguez8623 3 ай бұрын
Toccara proved them all wrong, she had a successful career and appeared in an editorial spread in Italian Vogue
@x-menbioforce6336
@x-menbioforce6336 3 ай бұрын
Not as successful as it should’ve been. They did her dirty she should’ve been a lot more famous
@giancarlorodriguez8623
@giancarlorodriguez8623 3 ай бұрын
@@x-menbioforce6336 a lot more successful than this show allows models to be. This show only destroys this girls chances to be a model in the real world
@santiagoperalesdiaz4091
@santiagoperalesdiaz4091 3 ай бұрын
​@@x-menbioforce6336Some of the judges said she wouldnt be able to be in italian Vogue, so she has shut their mouths
@DLRS1
@DLRS1 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know where you are, but here in Britain she was the face of a plus size store called Evans. Her photo was bigger than life in the store front windows. Even on Oxford Street in London 😊. This was several years ago, and I’m sure she made buckets of money from it. More than some loser stylist 😂
@santiagoperalesdiaz4091
@santiagoperalesdiaz4091 3 ай бұрын
@@DLRS1 Im from Spain, but I love Toccara, she was my favourite and she deserved all the success
@sarahlee988
@sarahlee988 3 ай бұрын
Tocarras scream was over exaggerated, but it was because she was trying so hard not to be angry or cry. I wanted to cry for her. Totally unacceptable to not understand as a stylist that you have a plus size model you must accommodate before coming to the shoot. Tocarra had a right to be upset
@MomLAU
@MomLAU 3 ай бұрын
That stylist has NO BUSINESS EVER working with people again.
@white_genocide2050
@white_genocide2050 3 ай бұрын
Or the stylist pinched her HARD she looked like she was already angry at toccara 🤬
@qorv4973
@qorv4973 3 ай бұрын
It was actually one of those giant clothes clamps that pinched her skin
@daphnebabcock1151
@daphnebabcock1151 3 ай бұрын
The skin on your back is pretty thin, and those clips hold layers of fabric.
@michelledawn7446
@michelledawn7446 3 ай бұрын
I mean being pinched or pricked does hurt, I don’t blame her for screaming. Plus the stylist was already being condescending.
@dustyrose5994
@dustyrose5994 3 ай бұрын
I showed up to the stylist on a movie set for a scene I was in (I am a “plus-sized” actress). They asked for my sizes and measurements ahead of time so I sent them in to them. When I showed up to wardrobe, nothing fit me. I tried on one shirt and they brought the seamstress over and she looked me up and down and said “bless her heart” to the stylist. They ended up finding something resembling a tent for me to wear. I was polite and thanked them for their time. I walked out of that fitting and quit the next day. I’m not saying it’s anyone’s fault that I’m bigger or trying to claim victim status or anything. I’m simply saying that stylists literally have one job and they seem to be consistently unable to do it when it comes to plus-sized actors, men included. It’s not like they didn’t have full body photos, dress sizes, measurements, etc at their fingertips. It ended up costing me a paying gig because my dignity was worth so much more to me. But why does it have to be that way? We’re not asking anyone to accommodate a third arm or two heads, etc. It doesn’t seem unreasonable to have some items at the ready when you have the notice.
@mamavibetribe8878
@mamavibetribe8878 3 ай бұрын
I wasn't plus size not midel thin. Had a similar experience on set because they used vintage clothes but hadn't thought about my chest measurement nor provided appropriate foundation garments. Depending on the brief, it can be difficult for stylists, but this woman had appropriate advance knowledge, modern clothes, and if there was consistently a problem should have been forwarned. Physically harming her for calling the stylist out was wild....
@donperegrine922
@donperegrine922 3 ай бұрын
At the risk of being taken the complete wrong way: Even if you DID have a third arm or a second head to accommodate you SENT THEM the dimensions and location of your extra head ahead of time. If they have the information and resources to do their job, and they don't then what else can be said? They suck at their job. The only excuse I could accept is if the clothing which the shoot needed was SO HYPER SPECIFIC that the warning and funds were insufficient. So, if a motorbike helmet was needed to custom made for this double-headed person. Fine! That's expensive and time consuming and needs specialist skills but a dress? Some jeans? For a plus sized person? Get on your game, stylist, this is bread and butter.
@matxalenc8410
@matxalenc8410 3 ай бұрын
It was literally the fault of the costume department. You're a victim of their competency (which most likely was intentional).
@bethenecampbell6463
@bethenecampbell6463 2 ай бұрын
There's so much out there for plus sizes in professional clothes, casual and special occasion wear that There's really no excuse for not having options available for actors.
@draquela96
@draquela96 2 ай бұрын
It's their job to FIND SOMETHING. SOMETHING. THEY HAVE TO. THAT'S LITERALLY THEIR JOB. THEIR ONLY JOB. I've worked in the entertainment industry and I'm very sick of anyone calling themselves a stylist and then doing this type of crap. I remember when it was a hot trend to be a stylist for young up and comers so almost everyone's side gig was a stylist. It's a SKILL, and you have to think about things!!! Not everyone can or should be a stylist!!!
@paws2reflect
@paws2reflect 3 ай бұрын
It was funny/ironic to hear Jay complaining about how bad his feet hurt while in drag. If a model said that, even if forced to wear the wrong shoe size, he would have gotten her kicked off.
@lvllavahead
@lvllavahead 3 ай бұрын
“if she’s dead, why is there a Ford Mustang in the background?” Asking the real questions as always 😂😂
@EllieC130
@EllieC130 3 ай бұрын
It was such a silly comment and I loved it.
@JessicaKobeissi
@JessicaKobeissi 3 ай бұрын
we all deserve answers
@afrosamuraiwarrior
@afrosamuraiwarrior 3 ай бұрын
​@@JessicaKobeissi Hello Jessica! Please interview Kellie from the same cycle! Please reply! Thanks!
@bec1036
@bec1036 3 ай бұрын
They had a gimp mask on the rack, but not a pretty dress in a 12-14? 🤣🤣🤣
@shawnawilliamson2739
@shawnawilliamson2739 3 ай бұрын
@@bec1036^This 😂! Yes! Also, these days absolutely she could fill those clothes racks with size 14 or what usually equals an Xl.
@jenncece5858
@jenncece5858 3 ай бұрын
12:51 You *know* the majority of the reason the stylist didn't have clothes in Toccara's size is because ANTM didn't want her to. What's the point of casting Toccara if ANTM can't belittle her for the exact reason they cast her in the first place.
@TRKJSR
@TRKJSR 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@blaah9999
@blaah9999 3 ай бұрын
Right?! Like imagine if the hair stylist said they didn’t know how to work with textured hair or makeup didn’t have foundation dark enough so they just said nope sorry can’t work with this model…
@starsimvidz
@starsimvidz 3 ай бұрын
I would agree w/ you if this wasn't a problem on 99% of sets... even when they know a full figure model is showing up, they never have enough.. Just like how makeup artists and hair stylists have no idea how to work w/ black models. They know black models are showing up, and they still f*ck them over.
@Janokimusic
@Janokimusic 3 ай бұрын
Tocarras confidence always inspired me even when she was feeling down she kept her self confidence. A true Queen ❤
@anitapreciosa2830
@anitapreciosa2830 3 ай бұрын
Her acting like Toccara is 700 pounds is just plain ridiculous. She is only heavy by modeling standards, not obese. Baby please : any store will carry her size and she has no problem working outfits. Unbelievable... The fat shaming is blatant and very hard to watch, indeed. I had to pause a couple of times.
@radiatamusic
@radiatamusic 3 ай бұрын
stylist: yOu dOn'T kNOw HoW tHiS mOdElLInG tHing wOrkS toccara: *has one of the most stunning vogue italia shoots ever*
@draquela96
@draquela96 2 ай бұрын
Stylist probably had only been a stylist for 2 gigs, this was one of them
@BAMOORE94
@BAMOORE94 3 ай бұрын
And she was everywhere after this show. I remember she literally modeled for almost every store in the mall. Plus her being in Italian vogue. She lived her dream!!
@onegreenenvy
@onegreenenvy 3 ай бұрын
That stylist didn’t want to be a stylist. That stylist wanted to be a model but failed.
@draquela96
@draquela96 2 ай бұрын
Exactly and not everyone should be a stylist, fashion students and graduates make the best stylists
@crowlynna
@crowlynna 3 ай бұрын
I feel like Toccara had so much personality (IN A GOOD WAY) that they were trying to bring her down intentionally. She had more personality and was more interesting than any famous judges - like Tyra and Janice. They hate everyone who is better/more interesting than them. And probably they were mad too that Toccara was so beautiful despite not being the size that other models were. (I'm not saying "despite her being beautiful" because I think people her size are less beautiful btw just saying so no one misunderstands me) I'm saying this from the judge's point of view. They act like someone who is not their perfect size deserves to be mistreated. Toccara is a whole package she is smart, funny, has a great personality and is absolutely stunning! And they hated probably how she was IT girl. That's why they tried to ruin her spirit and bring her down as much as they could.
@crowlynna
@crowlynna 3 ай бұрын
​@johnbrown9654there are a lot of people in this world that praise you and behind your back they do shady things. If you want to look good for the camera you also have to play nice here and there.
@crowlynna
@crowlynna 3 ай бұрын
​​@johnbrown9654the shadiest thing you can do is to pick a girl and make sure she doesn't feel included. Nice comments mean nothing when people in charge (Tyra literally created the show) makes sure she doesn't feel included all for the drama, tears and views. They want girls to break down for the views. Tyra especially knows how to play nice to look good. Cmon now Tyra had the power to tell the stylists about Toccara, if she wanted to she would make sure Toccara has styling choices like other girls... but like I said... views are more important than well being of the girls. And that's all I'll say. I have no further comments about this since we all know how bad antm was towards the girls. Edit: just adding this that it's fine if we disagree but no one can convince me that these judges didn't do shady things...
@devsie11915
@devsie11915 3 ай бұрын
I bet the stylist pinched her on purpose to upset her further and that sounded like a scream of anger rather than pain. Like she was so over the mistreatment but felt like she couldn’t say anything and had to scream it out. Ugh I almost teared up hearing them talk to her like that. Straight up abuse.
@roll3886
@roll3886 3 ай бұрын
The stylist was horrible for literally everyone but did Toccara dirty. She deserved to be treated with respect and not whatever sassyness she got. "Do you think I'd be able to get a rack of clothes for someone your size?"....then I guess you're not a very good stylist then if you can't find clothes to fit a model, no?
@BrokenInBeauty
@BrokenInBeauty 3 ай бұрын
I share the same sentiment - however especially in those days it was almost to be expected that you had a “one size fits all” body type, measurements and all. Since then fortunately there has been some progressive more open minded opportunities that sadly our lovely Toccara did not have any luxury of receiving ❤️‍🩹
@shellysolomonart
@shellysolomonart 3 ай бұрын
​@BrokenInBeauty No true, back then 12,14,16 might have been plus sized but there were lots of options back then. They were just being cruel and lazy.
@sofiastj
@sofiastj 3 ай бұрын
Janice is such a bully and so childish. She gets called out by Tyra and Janice puts her head down and says "I give up", like, really??? Is she five? She's just there to be mean and it adds nothing to the show.
@Jemfan52
@Jemfan52 3 ай бұрын
That's why she was fired from the show.
@chophouse404
@chophouse404 3 ай бұрын
Toccara's picture really says "Ma'am, I've been showing your cars all day. Please just take your keys and get out."
@mecdsj626
@mecdsj626 3 ай бұрын
I feel they sabotage Tocarra before they headed to Japan. She was my favorite plus size model on ANTM. That positive comment Janice gave her in the first episode shock me and thought she changed her view on plus size models but once a B always a B.
@earl.c
@earl.c 3 ай бұрын
One of the alums said they engineered her elimination because most Japanese brands don't have her size.
@lilredisbigbadwolf
@lilredisbigbadwolf 3 ай бұрын
I hope this haunts the stylist for the rest of her life. What a terrible toxic human. She went out of her way to make that gorgeous woman feel bad about herself. Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
@petouosincheandersonjessic831
@petouosincheandersonjessic831 3 ай бұрын
I really hope that all the girls have been healed emotionally and mentally after the show 🙏🏾 Thank you for speaking up ✨🙏🏾
@jazzyboo2191
@jazzyboo2191 3 ай бұрын
Its so upsetting because if you looked toccara wasnt even that big. Yes shes top heavy but her tummy was kinda flat.
@anitapreciosa2830
@anitapreciosa2830 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Most of her "plus size" just comes from having boobs, which is not that hard to deal with or anticipate.
@jazzyboo2191
@jazzyboo2191 3 ай бұрын
@anitapreciosa2830 Right. I'm like yes she's bigger than the other girls but she's not that big. They could have found something.
@sarahwithstars
@sarahwithstars 3 ай бұрын
And there are LOADS of 0-4 US sized models with less proportional fake breasts who ARE accommodated for, constantly. Maybe less in 2000s high couture runway modelling, but in general editorial fashion modelling. Takara is representative of a normal body (statistically, normal distribution, bell curve) which is the body that all clothing should be designed FOR
@TheRavenShim
@TheRavenShim 3 ай бұрын
Toccara was and still is one of my favourite ANTM contestants and the way she was treated on this show pissed me off when I was young and it still does to this day. this show truly did its best to dull her shine, but the bs didn't stop her from getting solo editorial spread in Italian VOGUE (which they said she would never be in). she's an icon, a legend and she IS the moment!! also that HATEFUL stylist was the one who quit the show after the going to Japan situation, leaving the show with no clothes for the rest of the cycle for shoots (the models were thought to be prostitutes by the Japanese government and had to go to Guam for a couple days while the producers figured things out) (if you don't know this story it's wild, check out either Oliver Twixts' interviews w/ the cycle 3 girls or Jay Manuels chat on cycle 3). the stylist even got I believe a ''black stamp'' in her passport, I'm not familiar with what that is but I'm assuming it's... not good lmao. it's what she deserved!!
@evunee
@evunee 3 ай бұрын
That's insane! Glad karma got the stylist but those poor girls. Showrunners need jail type.
@LilLadyAy
@LilLadyAy 3 ай бұрын
They should have sued her
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 ай бұрын
Not Jay appearing and Cassie doesn’t even hesitate to say “ugly woman” 💀
@OnTheBrink_29
@OnTheBrink_29 Ай бұрын
Right are we just gonna gloss over how homophobic all of that was?
@youreaqt3730
@youreaqt3730 3 ай бұрын
YaYa understood Tacarra, because she too was constantly ridiculed for being “too black” and on her skin constantly. It hurts to see tacarra cry. In the real world, that stylist would have been fired and never booked again.
@carolitoffana
@carolitoffana 3 ай бұрын
I love Yaya so much, I'm so happy that she managed to have such a great career after ANTM, she's also very nice to Toccara and the only one who had the balls to say the quiet part out loud. Her and Toccara have such a great career in spite of ANTM
@missangela1984
@missangela1984 3 ай бұрын
Proof that Janice was always under the influence when filming. Why was she allowed to bully each of the contestants.
@thesilentdiva
@thesilentdiva 3 ай бұрын
.... She's not even plus size in the real world
@hrosh523
@hrosh523 3 ай бұрын
Jessica, you should have Toccara as a guest in one of your videos so she can share her experience of ANTM. I think that would be so insightful.
@meganh4011
@meganh4011 3 ай бұрын
And Tacarra also represented the average sized American woman at that time in history. Size 12 to 14 a quick Google search and you can see for yourself.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 ай бұрын
Making people feel bad about their body to fit a narrow idea of fashion? We don’t know her 🤡
@TightyWhiteyTrash
@TightyWhiteyTrash 3 ай бұрын
*Tocarra was & still is a fan favorite til this day!* I always read *r/antm* & people love to talk about how much they loved her & give updates on her life currently 🤙🏼
@jbdloucks
@jbdloucks 3 ай бұрын
Considering that a few episodes later, the remaining models went to Japan, I don’t think Toccara would’ve fared well there, so they tried to break her down at this stage. This point was as far as they could bring her.
@Pandaikon0980
@Pandaikon0980 3 ай бұрын
It's just another rason why this show was so heinous. They damned well knew in advance that they were going to Japan, where the fashion houses they were going to work with wouldn't have had clothing for Tocarra. They likely brought her on to make it seem like they were being inclusive, expecting her to go out much sooner, but when she kept being her amazing self, they had to manufacture this disgusting display to set up a narrative to boot her before the Japan trip.
@odettehernandez5150
@odettehernandez5150 3 ай бұрын
This episode was like they were trying soooo hard to paint Tocarra as a complainer, but did a terrible job and we all saw right through it… They were all just flat out mean, disrespectful, and hateful towards her. Tocarra still handled it all well.
@michelledawn7446
@michelledawn7446 3 ай бұрын
Tocarra got a spread in Vogue Italia years later so I’m glad she got the last laugh. The way she was treated on this show is disgusting.
@toriastara
@toriastara 3 ай бұрын
As a plus size woman this made me cry to watch how they treated her. Nobody deserves to be treated like that.
@Jalil-wx7rh
@Jalil-wx7rh 3 ай бұрын
I gotta say. As much as I appreciate Tyra standing up to Janice like that for Toccara, in reality, what is she actually doing for girls like her in this competition?
@VocalFox
@VocalFox 3 ай бұрын
The stylists didn’t even apologize for hurting her. She was incredibly rude.
@kenisme1000
@kenisme1000 3 ай бұрын
Again, they knew that they didn’t have the clothes to fit her…why cast her???
@marieborremans
@marieborremans 3 ай бұрын
Massive respect for Toccara and how she stood up for herself and talked herself up for as long as she could in those circumstances. What a class act. And Yaya was super nice to her seeing through the people's bullshit. Two beautiful women in shitty circumstances, I liveeee
@zetsuki4207
@zetsuki4207 3 ай бұрын
Toccara is seriously one of the most beautiful girls who have ever been on this show... and seriously a size 12/14 is NOT that big! She deserved SO much better than this show could ever offer!
@sarahwithstars
@sarahwithstars 3 ай бұрын
Breaks my heart that alongside the justified hurt from the insults and isolation and targeted bullying, she is also criticising her slip in positivity and for not maintaining her grateful spirit. Her response was natural and shes telling herself that she did somethinf wrong by letting her spirit slip; while everyone there is tearing away at her spirit! God girl, she is doing SO well maintaining resilience
@LoveValentineXO
@LoveValentineXO 3 ай бұрын
This episode has stuck in my head forever because of the way they treated Toccara. It's so much words than I remember, too
@NayaBarcelona
@NayaBarcelona 3 ай бұрын
They were using Tocarra for exploitation. Tyra needs JAIL. 😭 Too many of these contestants left the show with more trauma than modeling education.
@robertcanada5106
@robertcanada5106 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but Tyra defended her because she believed in her. Tyra doesn't go hard for girls like she did Toccara.
@Pandaikon0980
@Pandaikon0980 3 ай бұрын
@@robertcanada5106 Tyra "defended" her because she didn't feel threatened by Tocarra. If Tocarra would have been a couple sizes smaller, you would have seen her be a lot more obvious in her fake niceties.
@BeckGho
@BeckGho 3 ай бұрын
What member on set wanted to write off a Mustang 😂
@helenaap2042
@helenaap2042 3 ай бұрын
OMG that must be why
@who4259
@who4259 3 ай бұрын
Toccarra is such a beautiful woman inside out, I hate what they did to her. She didn't deserve what she went through in this show.
@flw2915
@flw2915 3 ай бұрын
That’s why when Jay & Tyra fell out. You can’t believe a word he said because he is much to blame for the contestants from cycles 1-18.
@Pandaikon0980
@Pandaikon0980 3 ай бұрын
Jay doesn't have a damned leg to stand on. He was just as nasty to the contestants and spent even more time with them than Tyra did. I still think the only reason he made his little tell all book was because he was angry he got played by Tyra. He assumed they were friends when it really seemed like he was just an ends to a means like most everyone else in Tyra's life.
@flw2915
@flw2915 Ай бұрын
@@Pandaikon0980 very true and like most have said contestants & some former judges had said Tyra is pretty much all for herself. She doesn’t care who she trembles over she pretty much had Jay more of a supervisor of the other contestants.
@shaawii9590
@shaawii9590 3 ай бұрын
These videos validate my opinions about antm, makes me feel NOT delusional
@kyleecronin2089
@kyleecronin2089 3 ай бұрын
That stylist intentionally hurt Tocarra for daring to not be grateful and you cannot convince me otherwise. I’m glad Tocarra shouted. Also, Cassie and her homophobia is garbage and it’s gross they aired it.
@7voidfemme7
@7voidfemme7 3 ай бұрын
I mean antm did allow a blackface episode back then so it's not very shocking... it was so vile
@papermintairplane
@papermintairplane 3 ай бұрын
I have never heard Falkor from the Neverending Story referred to as a cute demon mouse dragon before. 😂😂
@laurenwasinger9436
@laurenwasinger9436 3 ай бұрын
I can’t believe the way they tear their down behind the scenes and then get all shocked Pikachu face when she “has a wall up.” You can’t treat a person like that and expect them to be emotionally vulnerable with you.
@intothemystic5223
@intothemystic5223 3 ай бұрын
The stylist couldn't even style the models she did bring clothes for. She is horrible.
@90sDRgirl
@90sDRgirl 3 ай бұрын
This "Stylist" pisses me off I remember watching this when i was youner ... They really tried to break her down
@brooklencooper
@brooklencooper 3 ай бұрын
Im so glad we have come as far as we have for “plus sized” clothing theres so many more options today but buying clothes as a size 12-14 still feels like this episode made me feel. Theres still so much work to be done in the fashion industry. I find the cutest clothes in size 0-4 and the size 12-14 or plus size section never has the cute stuff, left the change room crying yesterday I just wanna feel cute too
@Lisianthusbloom
@Lisianthusbloom 3 ай бұрын
The way that stylist treated Toccara was disgusting, like she wasn't a real person. I hope she was able to heal from her treatment on this show and is doing well today. That was hard to watch! By far the worst moment you have show from ANTM. Tocarra YOU'RE STUNNING ❤
@Kakashi-san
@Kakashi-san 3 ай бұрын
Jess, could you interview Toccara? Please and thank you
@MaxRoc21
@MaxRoc21 3 ай бұрын
I doubt she will do it. She’s quite famous now and she rarely speaks about NTM.
@Kakashi-san
@Kakashi-san 3 ай бұрын
@@MaxRoc21 Tru
@rebekahtyler7693
@rebekahtyler7693 3 ай бұрын
I cant believe the judges didn't mention the argument between Toccara and they stylist
@alexandraphelps4020
@alexandraphelps4020 3 ай бұрын
That orange for Toccara was literally Home Depot sign orange. The job of a stylist is to make the model look good. How did the stylist think that orange would look good on *anyone*? Yeah, that stylist should have been fired for unprofessional behavior and also bad taste. It also hurt to see how they treated Toccara and how they were unprepared and unprofessional. I never really liked Janice and I’m glad she eventually leaves the show. Models should uplift each other, not insult each other. I’m glad Tyra stood up for Toccara. Eventually a “real-size” model wins the competition in a later season (I think you got it, Eva wins this season). Tyra also does a season just for petite models. She never did one just for plus sized models, though 😞.
@Vasilia4
@Vasilia4 3 ай бұрын
*Remember London from season 12? She gained weight during the season and no longer fit in the clothes. During panel Nigel said: "It's all gone pear-shaped, hasn't it?*
@darknessofchaoticwaters
@darknessofchaoticwaters 3 ай бұрын
The Halloween looking one looked like Beetle Juice mixed with hocus pocus meets mean girls 😂
@sailornamaste997
@sailornamaste997 3 ай бұрын
When Mr Jay and Miss Jay were talking about Toccara, you could hear her scream in the background. They planned for her to have a bad shoot and they filmed them talking about “her eyes” before they even shot her just so they could cut the footage to fit their plot later.
@justanotherlullaby3376
@justanotherlullaby3376 3 ай бұрын
and later they have the audacity to say that Toccara lost her spark? they literally destroyed her with intention. but i'm glad to know from the comments that Toccara had her moment in Vogue, such a queen.
@ashleymillian6984
@ashleymillian6984 3 ай бұрын
Two things I did not like in this episode was Cassie saying gross when jay was dressed as a woman, it is giving homophobia/transphobia. And the judges and stylist coming for the “plus size” model’s weight, but was happy to see Tyra defend her. This show was overall a trashy mess like usual.
@ebonynaomi1085
@ebonynaomi1085 3 ай бұрын
Antm treated the models so bad. This is abus1ve
@taeheart350
@taeheart350 3 ай бұрын
It’s crazy Janice is talking about anyone‘s weight. Especially because as skinny and beautiful she was, she’s still insecure. She has had multiple procedures done on her body, and was addicted to drugs and alcohol. Women like her see confidence in other women and try to tear it down.
@catherine-eggallergyinmd
@catherine-eggallergyinmd 3 ай бұрын
They DEFINITELY did Toccara dirty in some of these shoots/challenges like she's a size 12-14 isn't that just a L/XL 🧐?
@mariearteaga3056
@mariearteaga3056 3 ай бұрын
Still is. And honestly as small as her hips/lower half was, she could probably fit into mediums if they were stretchy. She was GORGEOUS! It's hard to see just how small she is in reality to other women who are xs/s. As a big girl myself, I'd love to be as "big" as Tocarra was here. You couldn't tell me nothing if I looked like her! Lol.
@draquela96
@draquela96 2 ай бұрын
Yep
@theceech
@theceech 3 ай бұрын
So glad Tocarra went on to be a successful model on her own accord
@sleepy-peepy
@sleepy-peepy 3 ай бұрын
finding out tocarra was just a size 14 after they made such a show of how "big" she was all season changed my brain chemistry
@allyburnett3315
@allyburnett3315 3 ай бұрын
You were thinking of Harley Quinn lol ❤ accurate, I can see that
@harrietyounger6118
@harrietyounger6118 3 ай бұрын
But honestly it reminds me more pulp fiction basement vines
@skypinkidol
@skypinkidol 3 ай бұрын
Respectfully, I agree with everything you said about the stylist. Like how is she still working in the industry with an attitude like that?
@awilder87
@awilder87 3 ай бұрын
This whole cycle was cringe. All the girls were treated like trash, but especially the black girls and Toccara being plus size got the worst of it. In hindsight, they saved her from dealing with the abuse abroad because it would have been even worse over there. As you said, how are you a stylist but never have clothes for the models that fit? They didn't even try to cater to Toccara and then she has to be grateful all the time while being treated like dirt? Make it make sense
@davidhartono24
@davidhartono24 3 ай бұрын
Here you can see Tyra was intentionally forgetting Nicole. That was after Nicole was questioning about Cover Girl being used for animal testing during interview with Tyra Banks (that interview didn't aired). Tyra felt Nicole didn't appreciate the Cover Girl as the sponsor for ANTM cycle 3 so she started to forgetting Nicole intentionally and made excuse if Nicole was forgetful girl. All according to interview with Oliver Twixt. The tea.
@fashiondolldreamer
@fashiondolldreamer 3 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct! I was working as a stylist back then too, and regularly styled shoots with size 14+ models and none of them went naked or had to wear 'bowling' outfits. In fact, I enjoyed those assignments as it was a refreshing change for the usual size zero-to-two that you often worked with, and those models were amazing. The fact is that some stylists are lazy and just want to pull from the same five sorry designers they always do. And yes, I always thought it was a set-up because as you mentioned, a stylist has all the models' sizes on hand before any job, and let me assure you that there were PLENTY of options for models of any size, even back then in the early 2000s. And as JEPiper said, Toccara eventually got her revenge as she got a multipage only-girl spread in Vogue Italia, shot by none other than Steven Meisel! AND it was one of the bestselling issues in Vogue Italia's history!
@intothemystic5223
@intothemystic5223 3 ай бұрын
I've never seen Tyra be this nice towards a contestant. I feel like she heard about what the stylist said and actually felt bad about it.
@darpanabai3967
@darpanabai3967 3 ай бұрын
I'll never get over Jessica describing a character or person in great detail because she can't remember their names lol.
@giancarlorodriguez8623
@giancarlorodriguez8623 3 ай бұрын
Jessica, Marc is not nice at all, in the go see challenge this same week he measures Cassie's hips and tells her that her hips are too big for his liking as a designer
@nellrose4699
@nellrose4699 3 ай бұрын
The girls clearly were not given a clear vision of what this shoot was supposed to be, none of them understood. I don't think even the people who came up with it had a clear idea
@fugitivecolours998
@fugitivecolours998 3 ай бұрын
It is really bad - but I get the impression the stylist is acting - like she's been told to say all that stuff by production. Doesn't make it any better though.
@endor8witch
@endor8witch 3 ай бұрын
They gaslight plus sized girls a lot. I remember there was a season with a police officer whos plus sized and they all said they liked her energy. Then a few episodes later they asked why she lacked energy and life....like what do you expect? When the producers keep messing with their minds, it is draining
@loserplanet
@loserplanet 3 ай бұрын
The stylist knew there would be at least one plus size girl there. They had to have TOLD her to get something from the Kmart clearance rack.
@melissasharkey8632
@melissasharkey8632 3 ай бұрын
How infuriating, Janice has the nerve to put down and body shame Takara. Janice who has had all kinds of plastic surgery done, what a joke!
@missdaydreamss
@missdaydreamss 3 ай бұрын
It's always the most insecure person barking the loudest!
@sabinasdream
@sabinasdream 3 ай бұрын
If I remember right, Nicole refused to pose in fur for the shoot and they made a big deal about it but ended up not showing it on the show at all. This kinda fed into her "being forgettable" storyline.
@tillyt4054
@tillyt4054 15 күн бұрын
Janice saying someone Plus size could never be a Top model was ridiculous, Sophie Dahl was walking Paris runways , appearing in music videos and had Front covers well before this show was made , I’m pretty sure her first Vogue front cover was around 2001 ,Tocarra was absolutely gorgeous and along with Ya Ya deserved to win far more than Eva
@Pollo.a.la.crema.
@Pollo.a.la.crema. 3 ай бұрын
The photoshoot looks AI generated before AI was a thing.
@jessikarabbid4720
@jessikarabbid4720 3 ай бұрын
I remember watching this as a teenager, "skinny culture" was such a huge part of the 00's. This episode DEFINITELY exudes that toxic, gross energy from that era of time... I didn't realize how bad it was until this video!
@marykatestevenson176
@marykatestevenson176 3 ай бұрын
They put Toccara on the show to get people watching - "oh wow they have a plus size contestant this season!" Then they treated her horribly every week for the drama to keep people watching. It was all calculated. The fact they cast Toccara on the show, but then never provided any clothing to accomodate her was to create drama and a storyline for views. So they effectively traumatized and humilated this woman to make their show more interesting. ANTM really is horrible for that, poor Toccara.
@safalafagins
@safalafagins 3 ай бұрын
I can't help but feel Tocarra was also treated so horribly because she's a Black plus-size woman. Just look at how Whitney, another plus-size model on ANTM but White, was treated (and she actually ended up winning ANTM).
@Sam-Taylor88
@Sam-Taylor88 2 ай бұрын
Cancel all the judges. They discriminated against plus size. And its sickening
@realmichaelcomeau
@realmichaelcomeau 3 ай бұрын
Toccara was HOT beyond words
@bazalmorani6557
@bazalmorani6557 3 ай бұрын
This is probably the one time I am glad Tyra is there...she stood up for her models and that was good
@84rinne_moo
@84rinne_moo 3 ай бұрын
Stylist: “Do you think I am supposed to have a full rack of clothes in your size?” No, ma’am, just one outfit, and you couldn’t even do that. She trying to appeal in wild superlatives that no one expects or asked for. Btw always hated Janice, don’t care how successful her career was, awful woman.
@valleyofthedawlz
@valleyofthedawlz 3 ай бұрын
Yaya was such a kind person and she should have wom this season. Eva also has a weaker body of work
@desereerivera
@desereerivera 3 ай бұрын
At 9:38 it’s giving American horror story vibes 😂 for me
@Lady_Ginnie
@Lady_Ginnie 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, no, I don't care HOW dramatic or over the top someone's being. People don't scream like that unless they're actually injured (that's why good horror actresses learn to scream, gotta sell it). She got pinched, but have you ever pinched yourself with a zipper or something? That sh*t HURTS. I don't appreciate the stylist downplaying it. I 100% believe she did it on purpose, too, to punctuate her crappy point.
@AK12king
@AK12king 3 ай бұрын
I’m with you on this. That “stylist” was being nasty towards her.
@Bullen_3
@Bullen_3 3 ай бұрын
I was literally yelling. They did this on purpose to create drama and humiliate Tocarra,and you can't convince me otherwise. There is NO REASON WHY you can't accommodate.. no not accommodate,more like DO YOUR JOB as a stylist!! All those wild costumes they had the other girls in and put in her THAT, because she is size 12?! This was disgusting... And furthermore you dont scream like that over nothing. They must of really hurt her. Then Mr.j said "oh that was loud" ,bc god forbid he could have any empathy. They really didn't treat these girls like human beings with feelings.
@jessmPS
@jessmPS 3 ай бұрын
Tocarra’s scream was an exaggeration but as a person who has been tattooed on my back an unexpected pinch or pain in that area would hurt a lot
@TrinaRayne
@TrinaRayne 3 ай бұрын
Not only did they exploit Tocarra’s weight, they also exploited Cassie’s eating disorder, and weight too. That guest judge on the panel was trash, they had a mock go-see, and he told Cassie that her thighs and hips were too big for his clothes. Then, on episode two, Janice pointed out that Cassie looked pregnant in the swimsuit photo shoot. Also, I think the casting was primarily done by Ken and Michelle Mok. Janice, Nigel and Nole Marin didn’t have a say so for who is going to the model house.
@RuthMcDougal
@RuthMcDougal 3 ай бұрын
I love looking at this from a 2024 lens because they were completely wrong. They were so outdated. In my opinion fashion should be progressive and new and fresh. They were so low budget back alley casting room nonsense.
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