Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No.2 in B flat major, Op. 4

[@saad-t7k]

jéé, vy máte pěkný příjmení, takový jsem ještě neslyšela. ❤

[@faridfadel655]

The Scherzo of this symphony is so optimistic that I want to do something good and creative every time I hear it . Its melodic energy is reminiscent of a Slavonic dance !

[@francoismagne5863]

Malgré les maladresses et les naïvetés (codas des mouvements 1 et 4), cette musique est extraordinairement poétique et réjouissante. Très belle version, surtout dans le Scherzo.

[@jean-michelprillieux5012]

Dvorak nous emmène par la main dans des contrées extraordinaires. Les voyages qu'il met en scène dans ses symphonies sont vraiment à part et nous touchent au plus profond de nous.

[@matthewzisi300]

29:32 - Sounds a little like "Glory, Glory Hallelujah" from "Battle Hymn of the Republic." Dvorak's first New World symphony! :)

[@lasagnalookingcrisp5224]

I clicked the timestamp and got an ad for tubi

[@olavtryggvason1194]

It was the same year when the Union finally had defeated the Confederation. Slavery was formally abolished. This was of course braking news also in Old Europe where many people still had memories of peasants kept in bondage. Since Czechia at that time still was occupied and oppressed by Austria perhaps Dvorak was longing for a hymn which stood for freedom. Rumour certainly reached Europe also about the battle hymn of the Union. Its melody was used in a German soldier later in the 19 century. Dvorak might thus have known it from the one or other source.

[@arontesfay2520]

Certainly does

[@yowzephyr]

0:00 is a good place to start. ^

[@ronaldbwoodall2628]

Early Dvorak, but nonetheless Dvorak; formally extravagant and wayward, but nonetheless tuneful and full of the joy of life. Maturity came in his much improved Third Symphony, which together with the Fourth and Fifth, are to my mind his "middle-period" symphonies, fine works but short of his masterpieces, Nos. Six through Nine.

[@michaeljohnson9656]

I mostly concur, but I think number 3 is up there with the masterpieces.

[@carlconnor5173]

These early ones I treasure ! You're right about the later ones being the masterpieces. The eighth has always been my favorite. To this day I vision that cock on the fence as the sun rises above the farmstead land. I love all that comes between that and that ferocious Finale, when the horns sound like elephants.i doubt Dvorak had elephants in mind.

[@theyoutubetroll6679]

7 9 8 1 4 5 2 6 3

[@kiwidave6]

I can't see why you say the Third Symphony is "much improved" (over the second). The second is different but just as beautiful as the third. So is the, first, fourth, and all the way up to 9. I suspect you simply haven't put as much time into getting to know the second. Immerse yourself in it and let it carry you away!

[@basb0y]

I think this his weakest symphony. At least as a whole work, because the 4th movement I cherish like a precious piece, which I hope wouldn't have been so obscure if it had been published as a single symphonical poem. Its robust and and complete by itself. Off course I know all movemenst are full of the most beautifull ideas, but this last movement has the magic!

[@sophiazaynor2089]

My boy Antonin bringing his best

[@domila5316]

Yes, it's true that First and Second symphony are imperfect. However, both are stunning

[@MegaCirse]

Quand le monde fléchit autour de soi, quand les structures d’une civilisation vacillent, il est bon de revenir à ce qui, dans l’histoire, ne fléchit pas, mais au contraire redresse le courage, rassemble les séparés, pacifie sans meurtrir. Il est bon de rappeler que le génie de la création est lui aussi, à l’œuvre dans une histoire vouée à la destruction

[@scruffysean3640]

Très bien dit, merci.

[@jean-michelprillieux5012]

Dans 5 milliards d'années seulement !

[@jean-michelprillieux5012]

Le second mouvement est toutefois celui que je préfère, car tellement émouvant.

[@joseevanaguiarlima]

Encantadora música de dvorak

[@vincenzomario3196]

@Cody Jasper Yup, have been watching on Flixzone for months myself =)

[@brendanward2991]

Dvořák honing tha craft that would one day produce his seventh, eighth and ninth symphonies.

[@johnnelson6663]

One of my favorite composers, right there with Wagner.

[@antoniocesarsanchezarellan2764]

hermosa música la de Dworak

[@tortysoft]

I feel this symphony is a series of link passages between massive themes - which he didn't write yet. They show up in his later symphonies.

[@alaalfa8839]

He used a part of melody from this symphony... in Opera Rusalka "God have mercy on you"

[@jean-michelprillieux5012]

Cette 2e symphonie est lyrique et pleine d'entrain.

[@xavierbordes1373]

Pour ma part je ne vois guère de "wagnérianisme" ici. Plutôt une inventivité jubilatoire encadrée par un maniement classique et ingénieux de l'orchestre, et une forme symphonique assez "canonique" (un "post-beethovenisme" relativement scrupuleux dans la structure). C'est par son génie mélodique (quasi-shubertien parfois) et sa nature profonde que déjà dans ces premières oeuvres se dégage une indubitable originalité de Dvorak sous le masque de la sagesse dans la forme...

[@jean-michelprillieux5012]

Les symphonies de Dvorak donnent ainsi dans l'élégance et le lyrisme, voire l'incitation au chant, ce qui n'existe pas chez Bruckner par exemple.

[@jean-michelprillieux5012]

En cela, Dvorak me fait penser à un Tchaïkovski qui ne serait pas dépressif...

[@foveauxbear]

A fine work, sadly neglected.

[@ChillinDylan2875]

41:43

[@marcusgraubner8378]

❤❤

[@fulviopolce9785]

Scusate: la registrazione di Jarvi di basa sull'ultimo spartito modificato.

[@carlconnor5173]

I prefer Kertez. Better tempo, smoother and more sonorous. But this is adequate, I guess. Neumann makes the Adagio almost sound like a dirge, his tempo is so sluggish. The Schertzo is quite good though.

[@iduckworthauthor5060]

Completely Dvorak but so Wagnerian. A good job Brahms didn't know it!

[@camilmoujaber4813]

he did and saw through it ;)

[@alaalfa8839]

From this symphony, he borrowed part for Opera Rusalka.

[@paulheffron4836]

@@alaalfa8839 You remind me of what I do with leftovers as a cook. I will creatively use these ingredients again so they don't even seem like leftovers.

[@adrienjourneau2152]

woaw

[@rogernortman9219]

Dvorak was a far more universal and cosmopolitan composer than for which his Czech nationalistic late works are his claim to fame. I relish his first 7 symphonies but the last 2 emotionally rankle me.

[@gorankatic40000bc]

8 and 9 are similar to Brahms in perfection of the "polish work". Everything is "under control", "logical", "sewed seamlessly". Mahler was a great intellectual composer, a polisher too but he winessed deaths of his 7 siblings, death of his child, father's infidelity and violence, antisemitism, imperfection of this world which is in fact brutal. Every "imperfection" he included in his work brings freshness in music and appeals to our shared experience of life's imperfection. I am also very fond of Sibelius' imaginative all over the place but bursting with imagination early works finishing with his 1st symphony, which is my great favorite. I very much like lack of musical constraint but which is supportet with artist's genius of invention and somehow put formally together that in the end it works, i.e. where musical content overwhelms in such a manner that one does not look at the form, where content dictates form and form has no distinct shape yet works and sounds/looks logical, well crafted, well proportioned. One of the examples of this artistic venture is Shostakovich's 4th, a summation of his early, youthful period of experiments, now in 1936. during purges all youthful balletic irony, parody, grotesque turns into tragedy, nervousness, deadly seriousness. Shostakovich becomes one of the greatest composers depicting raw violent brutality and horror. Dissonance with late Bruckner, late, still young, Mahler and Shostakovich isn't anymore just a legitimate tool in the musical arsenal, now it's something quite different. Shostakovich's breakdown as patrons, friends and relatives are apprehended, executed or sent to gulags to die found its way into the fourth in ways we can only try to decipher. Let this rambling of mine just emphasize that music with the pronounced character, like Dvorak's early symphonies, "sticks out", that in music artist's lying is harder to achieve. Filmmaker, novelist, painter, poet... can lie, hide, pretend and fool us. Talented, gifted composer cannot hide the real extents of his talent. He can supress it for various psychological reasons but in music personal emptiness cannot be hidden. High level of technical skill cannot hide much if music is empty and has no character. Like for instance Raff's symphonies. Imperfect Dvorak or imperfect Sibelius are so talented that one can spend whole life listening to their early works and still feeling fulfilment, that these once young human beings were/are able to convey something relevant to us, even after 100 or 150 years. I have no words to depict how much joy Dvorak gives me, how his multifaceted and complex musical output, bursting with originality and character, brings me happiness. And here is the man who experienced same tragedies as Mahler, as did many human beings not blessed or cursed with irrational compulsion to create.

[@rogernortman9219]

@@gorankatic40000bc Grenadier, You have written me a very lonf, aesthetic, philosophical letter. Would you like to speak by phone? Roger

[@ronaldbwoodall2628]

Are you saying that Dvorak's last two symphonies are more "Czech nationalistic" than his earlier ones? I challenge you to rationally explain and defend that statement, especially since the Eighth was designated "The English", and the Ninth "The New World" Symphonies; or to likewise explain and defend it on the basis and example of musical content alone. Perhaps you're confusing these symphonies with works that he composed to Czech subjects or literature, such as the late operas or symphonic poems (which in fact are lesser known, at least around here). And are you saying that these final symphonies actually anger or infuriate you? Then I fear that you may indeed be emotionally disturbed. Oh well, there's always those first seven to fall back on...

[@gorankatic40000bc]

@@rogernortman9219 I've sent you links here to my email and addresses I have in my channel's about section but uploader of this video or KZbin for some reason deletes or hides my responses. Please check my channel's about section for links.

[@rogernortman9219]

Grenadier, DID YOU GET MY REPLY?? Roger

[@rogernortman9219]

hear agaun.

[@johan8271]

'Te vrolijk'

[@nyxx360]

Not me, copying the link for school projekt

[@davesmith6815]

Dvorak: The shack in which the divorced husband has to go live.

[@Noobovitch]

?

[@camilmoujaber4813]

he's talking about the dvorak keyboard ;)

[@markwalker2952]

HEE. HEE, HEE. HEE. HEE...

[@steveschwieterman9109]

@@camilmoujaber4813 I think it's a play on the pronunciation of his last name...Divorce-shack.

[@paulbrownsey5964]

Why shouldn't the wife go there?

[@barryguerrero7652]

I'll Dvorak #2 and Schubert #2 over Bruckner #2 any day!

[@77orchidjim]

F ing ads ruin beautiful music

[@richardmedot]

desole oui il faut la connaitre a present je n en suis pas enchante ,trop de bruits de desordres

[@fulviopolce9785]

Brutta esecuzione. Le prime battute non corrispondono allo spartito. Questa sinfonia è stata modificata da Dvorak in età matura. Questa potrebbe essere l'edizione originale (eseguita splendidamente da Neeme Jarvi con la SNSO).

[@rogernortman9219]

Ronald, How can you call me emotionally disturbed when DonaldTrump has proven that anybody and everybody lives by emotions, not rationality? More later, Roger

[@rogernortman9219]

Compare the beauty and friendliness of this symphony to the ugly, strident minor chords, anger and atonalism in the New World Sym.

[@barryguerrero7652]

I'm sure if you hadn't already heard the "New World" 50 million times, you wouldn't feel that way.

[@alaalfa8839]

He did sketches of 9th that were optimistic ....but then he thought the 9 symhony would be dull so he changed it, so people will want to listen to it mnore often he made more modern version...but it is not negative, its dramatic its but full of positive hope...Czech phil did a video analysis how the sketch version was like and how he changed it to modern version.

[@rogernortman9219]

I relish the melodic and harmonic beauty of this early symphony and then writhe in disgust at the ugly, angry minor chords and forlorn depressing nati9onalism of the unjustly popular New World Symphony, something I want never to hear again.

[@rogernortman9219]

Grenasier, You wrote me a very long aesthetic, philosophical letter! Would you like ro chat by phone?? Another ridicule of the Raff symphonies! I have some things to sayabout that! Roger

[@ronaldbwoodall2628]

Melodic and harmonic beauty is certainly evident in this symphony, but what is missing is structural integrity and emotional depth, which his final symphony has in abundance. Perceiving any of it as consisting of "ugly, angry minor chords" indicates that you may not like much of the great music that has been written in the hundred-plus years since. In such music, meaning is realized in the context.