ANY GOOD? TT Isle of Man 2 Review PC | TT Isle of Man Ride on the Edge 2 Game Review for PC/STEAM

Sim UK ANY GOOD? TT Isle of Man 2 Review for PC/STEAM.
TT Isle of Man 2 is the sequel to TT Isle of Man Ride on the Edge and a lot has improved with this new edition.
TT Isle of Man Ride on the Edge 2 now has a career mode, a Free Roam Area & improved bike physics.
The Snaefell Mountain Course is even more realistic in TT Isle of Man 2 than it was in TT Isle of Man Ride on the Edge.
How Realistic is TT Isle of Man Ride on the Edge 2?
You can see just how realistic it is here:
• How Realistic is TT Is...
We Don't JUST PLAY Games we SIMULATE REALITY with ULTIMATE REALISM.
Without a shadow of a doubt it is one of the most dangerous motorbike races in the world.
In TT Isle of Man - Ride On the Edge 2, you prove your worth in different championships before setting out to conquer the Snaefell Mountain Course, a 60 km-long track with both winding and straight sections that will push your riding skills to the limit.
TT 2 features 17 additional tracks, 18 different motorbikes including classic models, and the official riders.
And now it’s more realistic than ever, thanks to entirely revamped physics and faithfully reproduced rider movements.
Fine-tune your motorbike, upgrade its performance and monitor its data in real time so you can stay competitive.
TT2 also offers a brand-new open world, a biker's paradise where you can test your bike settings and gain the experience you'll need to win the TT Isle of Man title!
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[@IIXIIXVXIIXII]

Excellent review! You break it down perfectly, and make some great points that I can agree on fullheartet

[@lepermessiah4639]

I definitely agree with the "more sim less arcadey" sentients you express. Perks especially....gawd. Can't believe we still don't have practise and qaulifying. Overall though looks good and despite your misgivings should be worth a purchase...I'm probably going to wait for a sale though.

[@seangray4512]

Thanks for a very informative review, I'll wait to see if an update comes along to sort out lots of the things you have mention or a price drop! cheers

[@zimworlddee919]

Its a great game.

[@Jelitek13]

Great review, as always 👏 the thing about rain at TT was already mentioned. Last year it was raining for almost 2 weeks and even if there are too many wet patches or too big mist they cancel or postpone the race. Small shame you didnt mention if tyre temperature affect the grip, if yes how its implemented. Also if the brake temperature have any impact on braking distance. I would also notice that off track grip feels to be the same as on track - or am I wrong? Other thing, bike models. They are inacurate in some parts - wet weather tyres in Honda Bikes, wrong swingarm in Norton V4 or bad rear tyre in BMW S1000RR. Seems like the people who made the models didnt know much about bikes. I dont expect every person in the team to know what they are doing, but someone should keep the content/quality control - they make the game for many ppl who know motorcycles very well. Shame you had no possibility to try multiplayer. Its very important aspect which was broken in TT1 - also for some reason Kylotonn didnt mention a word about it. Not sure if you noticed that in chase cam the dashboard peeks through the rider? Definately a bug. Just like not working LED RPM dashboard lights in many bikes. And yes - the animations of the rider and replays are awful. Seems like whole development time was used for improving physics, TT track and adding free roam world. Anyway I hope the devs will work on the game after the release and will improve some aspects. And last thing.... Community management. Kylotonn fell on this in every aspect. No reactions to ppl comments in social media, no proper gameplays or features showcase. Most of the promotion job was done by youtubers. At least its good they listened to feedbacks of people and improved few aspects before the release. I cant wait to play the game - 2 more days to wait for me, but after your review Im sure it will be epic.

[@SimUKReviews]

LOL Yeah I know, that's what I want real life weather conditions :-) So there is no manual or confirmation of how these new features actually work, so this is MY own understanding; 1) Tyre temps don't affect handling, but do degrade the tyre. Degraded tyre DO affect handling, and quite a bit too. 2) Brake temps do affect the effectiveness of the braking, but I'd struggle to explain exactly how (kind of by feeling). 3) Off track grip is non-existent, unless you are very lucky, calm and careful. 4) As for part inaccuracies, I'll simply take your word for it, that's not my forte (but I agree). 5) Yes that dash through the rider exists in the first TT game, I did mention it in this and my last review, guess they don't watch my channel lol. I am pretty sure you will have a smile on your face, in-spite of all the issues in this game :-)

[@Jelitek13]

@@SimUKReviews awesome! I will post your review in comments on facebook at game page if you dont mind. Devs should see this review as its one of the best yet. Hope they will see it and include your feedback.

[@SimUKReviews]

That would be greatly appreciated :-)

[@denesmith3388]

Do you know if their are any setups for the bikes instead of running default, more so when you have brought and upgraded parts for the bike which make it better and faster

[@vinnieterranova196]

Nice game. Nice review. Some thoughts: - Birds look very fake, group of birds looks static floating in the air, birds popping in. - In bright daylight all trees and bushes look like having the same green color. - The world is too perfect: no dead trees, brown/dry grass in summer. The world that is represented reminds you of you playing a game.

[@SimUKReviews]

Oh the Birds! LOL so nearly mentioned them in my review, yeah prob better without them.

[@drkaufman313]

Good video. I can't wait. Just about your comment on rain. I actually go to the TT and they don't run in rain. Also if there is any mist on the mountain they don't run either. Rain could be ok on the other tracks, but not Mountain Course.

[@SimUKReviews]

You misunderstand me, I want rain to interrupt the racing. Sure they cant race on slicks in the rain, but they do go out when the track is almost dry, and that adds a whole new careful level of concentration! tbh neither the bike physics or the track realism is upto it, but that's what I would love to see. They already have fog, well mist & overcast shadows, this would just be the next level. :-) Still, as it is it's great.

[@paparoach007]

I went to the TT last year and pretty much the entire race week it rained or the racing was postponed because of the weather and the track conditions but the officials on a couple of occasions allowed a lap or two to test if the racing could go ahead and the mist over the mountain was a big problem as well. Shame this years TT has been cancelled I had my ticket booked and my bike was almost set :(

[@olivialambert4124]

In terms of sound I can't say I've ever heard suspension, stones, anything but the engine on my bike. In fact I've never heard them on any bike, frankly. I'd disagree that all 600cc (supersports) bikes sound the same, but thats what I ride (07 ZX6R) so I'd imagine some amount of people might disagree with me. Ride 4 certainly does well to distinguish the different engine noises. I'm still a little cautious, but this review has done enough to convince me when its on discount. Plus a great review, in depth, well articulated, I'm glad I found this.

[@SimUKReviews]

Thanks Olivia. You might enjoy 5mins of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haGWp2BunrB9fKs And check out the tutorial too, shows off the tracks detail.....incredible.

[@olivialambert4124]

@@SimUKReviews Thanks for the link. Half way through that video I finally relented and got the game. You make it look a lot easier than it really is. The campaign looks great, the atmosphere is worth the price of admission alone so far. I noticed you'd tried Ride 4, if you haven't given MotoGP 21 a go I'd strongly suggest it. They remade the physics engine and its the first motorbike game I've ever seen where I'm able to happily call it a simulator - motorbike games can finally go toe to toe with Assetto Corsa. That said the AI is still just as bad as before (comically bad), they've tried to make it but it still sucks. And you really need rumble to know where the tires are grip wise, I'm not sure if your amazing controller has it or not. But you get that type of feedback on a real bike, not through rumble but its there. But still, for the physics alone I'd strongly recommend it if you haven't tried. From what I've (very briefly) seen you seem to enjoy the realism, and too realistic was the main complaint a lot of people had (sigh, just use assists). Also I stand corrected on the 600cc noises. IoM TT doesn't really do them justice at all.

[@SimUKReviews]

Yes I have and I am enjoying it immensely, but I am way off the pace ATM :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZm4pad9hrCSiLM

[@RobbyMachiFIN]

Most amazing review!!!! Spot on 100%

[@SquirrelMonsieur]

I think it would be a nice touch if the first time you get to the tt in career mode you have to wear the orange bib and do a lap, with commentary (preferably from Milky Quayle) on important points, bumps, positioning, which could be implemented in the same way as rally driving pace notes, baring in mind the company already make rally games. This could be accessed from the main menu at any time as well. Also selecting simulation difficulty in the game is a bit of a misnomer as it turns all the assists off but irl the bikes do have tc, aw etc. Very much agree with your opinion on the upgrades/tuning access. Utter bs. Despite this I'm enjoying the game and it is an improvement in most areas. Noticably on bog standard ps4, the improvements in lighting are very noticable.

[@SimUKReviews]

That is a fantastic set of ideas.

[@cr4zyw3ld3r]

Hmm so you think the gyro effect is basically just on the high speed setting at all times? Regarding tank slappers though don't most course bikes run steering stabilizers now to limit this as much as possible? Otherwise thank you so much for an indepth review

[@SimUKReviews]

Yes precisely & I believe they do, but it's always going to happen on TTIOM because of the nature of the event.

[@cr4zyw3ld3r]

@@SimUKReviews kind of frustrating though since the milestone games don't have gyro until speed picks up and it's the same thing on a real bike I don't feel the need to countersteer until about 25kph and up until 80 the bike isn't the most stable it's not until you go past those speeds that you really gotta push the bars to get it to fall over into a turn. Granted my bike is on cast alu wheels. Forged alu, cf and mags are lighter but that just moves the gyro effect further up so if anything these tt bikes should not be having hard gyro steering until you've really picked up speed.

[@smitty7326]

I have it on Switch and it's great. Blows my mind that I can play something like this on a mobile device. One issue: the switch controller doesn't have an analog trigger, if that's the right word. Basically, the throttle is either 100% on or 100% off. However, the game also allows you to control throttle with right stick, so I changed to that. Took some time to get used to, but now I'm 100% used to it and it feels like I have an incredible amount of control over the bike. It's great.

[@SimUKReviews]

Nice.

[@mikemhz]

The main problem I had with the first one was as you said the 90 degree crashes. It made the physics feel like it was designed for side-car races with bikes as an afterthought. I'm going to try this instalment before I buy it

[@SimUKReviews]

It's much better! Got some nice new videos today, make sure you sub and hit the notification bell, you will want to see this!

[@mikemhz]

@@SimUKReviews I just played 30 mins and noticed two things: 1. The bike doesn't swerve off the road anymore... fine. I did encounter the bike collapsing from underneath me because it didn't like the way I went over a bump. 2. Traction control does nothing. It's impossible to low-side. Power slides don't exist. You can full throttle at full lean from low speed in 1st gear and it sticks perfectly to the road.

[@SimUKReviews]

both true.

[@AlexDanger221]

Solid review thanks for the heads up, I tested it yesterday and it is a no buy for me. Did they finally fix those random spinouts in the first game?

[@SimUKReviews]

Improved a lot, now just the odd random killer bump.

[@gomezthechimp1116]

Thanks, you saved me £35. The biggest issues I had with the first one were the random crashes and slow speed handling. I tried to go around the course following the normal speed limits and it was awful.

[@emulation2369]

You can find keys for 4-5$ for this game

[@rochmel1409]

A very comprehensive review.thanks.I have had the game for a while and bought it purely to have a go at riding the IoM circuit. So far I have been unable toget anywhere close to the 'real world' times. I'm wondering, is it actually possible to achieve the times of the likes of John McGuiness et al? Thanks

[@SimUKReviews]

Thanks and yes you can smash their times by quite a bit.

[@rochmel1409]

That's good to know. I guess I've got a lot more practice ahead of me! 😂 Thanks.

[@Rahzuh360ThunderzzZ]

agree with you on every points /// i liked the real life comparison ,

[@wavehopper4183]

My main issue, as with the first one is the problems wont be fixed. I'm afraid I'll pass on this one until Bigben can prove their not another Milestone. I've had enough of losing control for no reason and the low speed issues.

[@mancbiker17]

That's my big issue as well. Bought the first one as a digital release, based off the fact that I had actually enjoyed their rally game. But it was dire....anybody who has ever ridden a bike will tell you that the first one was a joke when it came to the physics. Not to mention those control issues where you got flung off. I read so many tweets from unhappy customers aimed at the devs, and they completely ignored them all. They never address the weird handling glitches, and never attempted to fix. them. I'll be waiting on as many reviews as possible, and considering the money I wasted on the first one, I may well wait for a price drop as well!

[@Jared.mp3]

I think more games should do demos. I look at TT and think it would be a blast to play but their are some good points you make that has me on the fence. In all honesty I wish someone would make a game that was solid as a racer but also have a proper free roam (aka a larger map would be nice) because that's what draws me in the most to this game. The idea of having the best of both worlds and I can have something to play when it's winter here in Wisconsin that's not so arcade feeling like The Crew 2 and GTA would be perfect to me. I've been playing MotoGP 19 this winter but I would like to have some real stretches of road to fly down like TT offers. Probably going to break down and buy it or at the very least wait until it's on sale.

[@SimUKReviews]

Totally get that. Don't forget, if you buy on STEAM you can play for 2hrs and return if you are not 100% happy.

[@Jared.mp3]

@@SimUKReviews So after picking it up and playing for a bit, I feel that it is a very good game. I will admit that some of the game seems like it could have been polished (like the map during races and the inclusion of a clutch would have been cool) but otherwise it's feels good to play. The bikes feel like they have some weight behind them without feeling sluggish and I love how you can go from a casual ride in free roam to high octane races in career mode that had me butt clenching to stay in first (first-person is the only way for me). I haven't had issues with random crashing on flat road or the instant wheelie after re-spawn yet but I'll admit that I haven't played hours on end yet. I picked up Ride 3 at the same time since it was $15 but after playing them back to back Ride 3 was actually the game I refunded. Do I think that TT 2 is worth the $40 price tag? Na but I think that's only because Steam spoiled me to think that all games are

[@tuffbosslive7598]

Hi is the loading times still long on this game what’s your thoughts many thanks

[@SimUKReviews]

Not so long you shouldn't buy it.

[@gbw28]

Do the ai riders sit up when approaching a slow bend / corner, or do they stay tucked the whole time?

[@SimUKReviews]

IMHO not as much as they should do, but at lower speeds they do raise their heads and body, but no wind break.

[@gbw28]

Sim UK Thanks for your reply, I’m a bit ocd about those kind of details!

[@SimUKReviews]

Me too ;-)

[@chrishatton3499]

As a late comer to this 2nd installment of this game I agree with most of what your saying, my biggest gripe is with 1st person view, it wobbles and bounces around and makes you dizzy, I was doing sub 18 on tt 1, not sure I could manage 20mins on tt2 the 1st person view seems like it was taken from motogp 2019 very similar although not as sickening 🤔 maybe with more practice I may come to love it but for now I am unimpressed, I like the expansion on career mode wanted that in tt1 but all seems very complicated only 20hours in so we'll see great review BTW 👍

[@SimUKReviews]

Thank You CH!

[@g7usl]

You never mentioned how the control works or even what is required?

[@karlosh9286]

Bikes do handle differently at low speed. Just try the UK mod 1 bike test around cones ! ( I failed my first one, maybe coz I'm OLD ! ) Steering changes , from steering the way you'd expect, to counter steering and lean, all depending on speed of the bike. If you're not a biker, have a look on youtube for bike counter steering (sorry if I'm stating the obvious) Which leads me to wonder does this , or any sim bother with thinking about counter steering ? I have ordered this game, hope to get it soon, and one of my concerns is it isn't really going to be anything like riding a real bike. Graphically and sonically it appears to be very good. It's the control method, and sensation of the bike that I wonder about. A console games controller is nothing like handle bars, twist throttle, brake lever, brake pedal, gear pedal and clutch lever. I might have to build my own custom controller using some pedal bike handle bars, ebike throttle, couple of levers and a foot unit with pedals that work like a bike. This is of course assuming the game allows customisation of control. (I've seen one for sale, but it had some mediocre reviews) However since I'm definitely not going to get the Isle of Man proper this year (it's been cancelled) , with this I can do more than just watch videos of previous TT races on KZbin, even if I'm stuck on a PS4 controller, I can pretend I'm Hickman, one of the Dunlops, or even Mike Hailwood :) I have seen a full bike simulator , on hydraulic rams, with what looks like a real Ducati bike on it. I wanna go of that !

[@SimUKReviews]

I have a full Hs2 system (watchmy video review) on this it is brilliant. You wouldnt be able to steer through cones on this game, the handling at low speed is non existent and too slow to switch. It's not full sim, and yes GPBikes is the only sim I know of with countersteer, but TBH countersteering is not an active decision thing in riding, it becomes second nature, sub conscious. Many riders ride never even knowing its existence.

[@karlosh9286]

@@SimUKReviews True , a lot of rider's don't know about counter steering . They just think they're "leaning" . I'll watch the Hs2 video . Thanks :)

[@karlosh9286]

@@SimUKReviews I have a challenge getting through the cones on a real motorbike ! Getting better now.

[@NFGUN1T]

Anybody knows if the preload is available right now on Steam ?

[@SimUKReviews]

No I don't believe it is.

[@NFGUN1T]

@@SimUKReviews Ok thanks for the quick reply.

[@alfmoonmoon2002]

Great video Pal cheers 👍

[@SimUKReviews]

Thanks 👍

[@DerekMoore82]

What's the best bike racing sim for PC? I have only played TT Isle if Man 2, but I wonder about Ride 4, (couldn't find your review of that game).

[@SimUKReviews]

Just replied, I'm not a fan of ride 4 for realism. For me motogp is more realistic. Have you watch my GPBikes review?

[@DerekMoore82]

@@SimUKReviews Haven't seen it yet, I'll check it out. Earlier today I got torrents for Rims and Ride 4 with all the DLC just to try, (of course if i like it I buy it). Rims had surprisingly good force feedback and lots of options and settings, haven't played it enough to judge yet, Ride 4 felt like Gran Turismo 3 for bikes, kinda cool how much there is and all the bikes and ease of understanding the feel intuitively, but felt too easy, then I put on the Realistic difficulty with no aids and I'm loving it. I especially like the cameras/views in Ride 4. TTIOM2 still feels the most compelling and thrilling, like I'm drawn to want to master it and I think there's some special X factor to the experience when I'm doing well, but man is it unforgiving and it has some wonky cameras. Also at low speed TT fails badly like you said, I wish they would patch that.

[@SimUKReviews]

@@DerekMoore82 interesting, maybe I should give ride 4 another thrashing.

[@JM69YT]

I think I will wait with this game. It looks like an actual improvement but I haven't got much trust into Kylotonn and Bigben after WRC 8 where they still haven't fixed the puddles. And, MotoGP 20 has the way higher priority than this. But anyway, nice review :D

[@SimUKReviews]

Thank you, motogp 20 looks very exciting now with career management and tyre physics! But this is Snaefell, so very specialised and the new physics help a lot.

[@mpearcey]

Does this version save your ghosts?the first version (on the switch)did not and that was disappointing.

[@SimUKReviews]

Ermmm, I don't think so. Not 100% sorry too busy to check, but I think not 80% - 90% sure not.

[@TheOverlordOfProcrastination]

I just bought the first game on PS4 for 79p, and I’m absolutely stunned. I didn’t expect to like the game but at that price I thought it’s was worth a pop. It’s about the best 79p I have EVER spent. Now I’m thinking of buying the second one. Absolutely brilliant.

[@SimUKReviews]

Overlord....No joke, TT IOM2 is 100% better.

[@e575fho]

I agree about the pendulum issue, and I think at lower speed the steering should be more responsive maybe? The main thing missing from any decent bike sim is a suitable controller, ie handlebars!! :) I hate using a gamepad...….

[@SimUKReviews]

e575fho you've seen this video right? kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZC5mZKsqLeMjdU

[@e575fho]

@@SimUKReviews Yes mate i have subbed to his channel and the hs3? looks amazing. I think the price may be an issue for a lot of us wannabee bikers though :) I wish there was a mass produced controller so as to make it more affordable.

[@SimUKReviews]

Yeah I do appreciate that. I don't have an Hs3 sadly, but I wish I did :-)

[@Wildescape_uk]

totally agree, It's comical how unstablethe bike is at low speed.

[@itsdogz2775]

It's taken me about 3/4 hours to get used to the handling but now I'm loving it.

[@SimUKReviews]

Yes!!!!

[@Cerbera82]

can anyone help? how can you make a good start from the grid? ive tried literally everything, but EVERY race i go from 1st to last because im convinced its actually impossible to make a good start off the grid

[@SimUKReviews]

No. It is an arcade game, you dont all start on an even keel, the AI are set to blast past you and then you ha e to chase them down (because that is more fun apparently). When you unlock your own transmission, you can tweak the gearing. Then blip the throttle just before the go, and try and catch it.

[@Cerbera82]

@@SimUKReviews Ah, i see you mentioned that in the video, i commented before i watched! I was starting to get seriously sick and tired of going from 1st to last off the grid every start. If that's a game mechanic they've included then it's an unbelievably stupid one, that just leads to frustration. Also, why is there always that one bike that tears off into the distance and cant be caught no matter how perfectly you ride? Overall i do enjoy the game, but some aspects are really testing my patience

[@SimUKReviews]

That super fast bike can be caught, but... at the start of your career only on some tracks, then as you upgrade all tracks. The super fast rider represents the speed of the fastest TT riders! That's how committed and full on they are lol.

[@johnnytopgun6414]

Lmfao, the sneeze cameo ahahaha

[@HardawayRTR]

I just got this game cause I love watching TT but the part about the wheelie after respawn is true it has to be a bug

[@michaelschneider1365]

Is it worth it? I just got moto gp 2020. Thinking this as well. How real is it.

[@SimUKReviews]

Not a sim, but very realistic....very....Watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJCYfYGGZtGandk&

[@mikebennett4478]

You can practice in free roam or quick race. For the Grand Prix races there should be qualifying tho I agree. There should be Ulster and Macau etc as well. I think not having the same tracks as the old game with the additional tracks is strange. Ride3 had a lot figured out with handling. The new way is okay I think it's just an adjustment. Its easier for younger learners which personally Id rather attract. These new games are great and weve gotta step a bit back for the youth. Even MotoGp is just getting their sht together with Gp20. 19 was horrible I didnt even play it then 6 months later 20 came out... This game could easily be patched and for $85 they probably will be cool about suggestion. Arcade and Sim mode would be cool so your buddy can play with you split screen on arcade and keep up.

[@DiagolonRider]

I'm looking at buying this game today... did they ever bother patching any of the things you mentioned or is the same as when they first released it?!

[@SimUKReviews]

The track is wonderful, I.mean spectacular and despite any misgivings....I love it.

[@thomasprice7555]

Does the game allow you to do a controlled wheelie or is it the same as the last one?

[@SimUKReviews]

Maybe, but I certainly cannot and I have tried.

[@thomasprice7555]

@@SimUKReviews thanks. I was chatting with the games twitter and was told it would be much easier to do wheelies and have more throttle control.. It looks the same as last one in your vid. Dont think I even seen the front wheel go up

[@SimUKReviews]

So far me and Robo46 are the only two youtubers who I have seen racing on pro simulation mode (essential for wheelies). there is more throttle control, and each bike is diff, so maybe, just maybe.

[@thomasprice7555]

@@SimUKReviews haha sounds promising! Ah well I'm not expecting it to be much better but I might try it anyway. I loved the last game, even with the flaws because it had the full track but this looks like the same game with the brightness turned up. Cheers for the review anyway, best review on the game I've seen

[@SimUKReviews]

Cheers Thomas, good luck with it!

[@GFunkEra1992]

wow one of the most detailed reviews about this game, i was hesitating to buy this game but i will wait 2-3 versions after this one. as a motorbike enthusiast i thank you for this huge work you put on this amazing video.

[@SimUKReviews]

Thank you.

[@seebarry4068]

Changed my mind as soon as perks were mentioned, I’m alright with tt1.

[@SimUKReviews]

The ride is better in 2, and I've not once touched the perks (like you they don't interest me). Still a hell of a ride.

[@johnnytopgun6414]

Have you tried leaning opposite and steering hard at slow speed that's what you would do

[@SimUKReviews]

No, I might try that thanks.

[@paulraymond3622]

Great review, I agree 100%. Sim yes, arcade no.

[@Wildescape_uk]

It's been 2 years. Please Kylotonn do the right thing. Now. Awesome review. Thank you SO much. I thought it was 'just me'. I completely agree: An exhilaratingly, breathlessly, awesomely good siimulator, (forgiving the occasional random wipe-outs and excreable slow speed death wobbles) with a stupid, stupid arcade career thoughtlessly slung on the back end. AND to not be able to practice the circuits , mod your own bike or , keep setup changes. terminal headshake Grrrr. But, BUT, by the gods, I love the TT circuit SO much I forgive them.

[@SimUKReviews]

Agreed!

[@acesneights1947]

All the points you make are valid which is why this game should never be called a sim it’s a very long way from being a sim

[@SimUKReviews]

It is closer.

[@bleedingfly]

I just purchased this game based on this review. I hope the developers reward you accordingly good sir. \m_,

[@SimUKReviews]

I wish lol. Enjoy Snaefell.

[@masteryourmind2760]

Actually, the tyrewear is not a thing to mention. I already drove half of the second lap on a superbike with a completely worn out rear tyre and it made no difference at all. So it's more like a picture than an information next the speedometer.

[@jordanjones6340]

Are you able to wheelie easier in this one?

[@SimUKReviews]

Whack it in to Simulation mode and there are parts of the track that demand you roll off...but it is bike dependent. The Norton = instant wipeout. The CBR's a little more forgiving.

[@svenvangent754]

8:30 ..... that was for me the big problem with the first game and why I stopped playing it . For no reason you where thrown of the bike at some places and it is still there in the second game . AI is also a sad story . In the first game sound and graphics where OK , and it seems that this is also good in the second game . Good and honest review by the way thank you .

[@SimUKReviews]

They do need to be fixed for sure.

[@himrlkw1]

It's a big improvement from the first iteration but still a long way off the Ride series for instance. The bike corners some of the slower longer corners like a car and there is no feeling like the front will go or the rear will come around on you if you over do it like on Ride. On the other end of the spectrum the very slow sections like Ramsey and Governors Bridge are an absolute nightmare to get the bike to turn properly.

[@sahhull]

My buddy does the Isle of man pilgrimage. He had an off at 120mph. In his words. The bike stepped sideways then it all went slowmo. He kicked the bike away and he slid down the road on his back. The bike was trashed. His leathers, helmet and back protector trashed and now live in a display case. He has a picture of him on his back in a cloud of bike shrapnel. He walked away with a bruise on his leg and bum and tore the nail off his little finger.

[@SimUKReviews]

What! Respect.

[@gazking08mx]

They have killed this game. I have had real bikes. Rode cbr100rr . 1st game was pretty good as a sim. You said the physics os better but then said its esya for someone to just pick up and play. And then all the low speed . Slack feeling when cornering

[@PizzaChet]

I thought it was pretty good until I was able to set up my bike. That's when I uninstalled it. It ruined the rideability since none of the settings translate from real life. They seem more concerned with realistic looks than realistic physics. I was already used to TT 1 so I re-installed it.

[@MyAsh1974]

If you want arcade you play in 3rd person if you want realism you play in helmet cam, this game is a vast improvement on the first game and once you master helmet cam you will love it and will get that true sense of speed! Very good bike game in my opinion

[@SimUKReviews]

I only ever race in 1st person, but this is very boaty. I hooked up my Hs2 Motorbike controller and instantly had more precision, so I hope I can progress with that.

[@yorkshirepud6676]

I agree with all you have said buy the game on sale race the TT on the Yam and forget the rest of the game!

[@OffGridMadMan]

Sounds like a patch or 3 is needed, standard for all games nowadays which is piss poor. I love the first game but will wait for this to drop in price I think. Looks like it will be epic eventually. How can you not get a game with the Snaefell in it?!! EDIT - That career looks crap. But there's a lot of players like me who just ride the Snaefell and occasionally the other tracks against friends. I never even looked at the career in the first game. Shame they didn't just do a basic career instead of trying to be too clever.

[@SimUKReviews]

I think they need a change of direction tbh. Its def aimed at console kids, but IMHO most TT fans are adults.

[@OffGridMadMan]

@@SimUKReviews I agree about it being made for the kids. If they tweaked it more for us old folk it would become a cult classic. I'm not interested in playing a career in road racing on Xbox, I just wanna hit the Snaefell a few times a day as McGuinness or Hegarty if he's still got the best bike. And I want them superbikes to actually be rideable, they were shocking in the first game. Loved your review, it was brutally honest and I needed to hear that. For my purposes the game will be ok with a few tweaks to the physics.

[@geert574]

How the hell do I apply a custom livery I spent 8k pounds and bike is still white asf

[@OldmangamerUK1971]

Can you use a wheel on this?

[@SimUKReviews]

I haven't tried Steve, but I believe you could.

[@ThomiX0.0]

Sim UK, thanks for this clear a good overview! Question: Is there at this moment, any game presented as being a SIM, who does not have this ugly pendulum movement you speak of, other than the old GP500 from Hasbro?

[@SimUKReviews]

GPBIKES is very hardcore, but bespoke. MOTOGP19 was actually very good and motogp 20 is very exciting.

[@ThomiX0.0]

@@SimUKReviews thanks for the reaction, but the sweeping motion at the tire-contact level on the tarmac while steering does make me reject the Game, as being not really a SIMULATION as it advertises to be. The Arcade system is made better yes, but does not compare to the driver experience one has on the old GP500 game, where the viewer moves and not the tire/back wheel. Such precise steering could only be done with a sensitive joystick, and does not compare to the ugly movement of arcade , with beautiful visuals or not. Motogp19 and 20 are still arcade systems and does not do the job well. I assume there are no others? It's a shame to be forced to 4 wheels ..:-(

[@gomezthechimp1116]

I thought I was the only one who remembered that gem. Definitely the best bike sim ever as far as I`m concerned.

[@ThomiX0.0]

@@gomezthechimp1116 , right mate! The only SIM who's got the foundation straight. It became more of an opensource game, as the programming became clear, new sounds, new skins and even new modelling of bikes and circuits.. The visuals on today's games are indeed very well made, but they are not what a game makes a SIM, one should first have the right movements, which is the base, all other systems do not fit the bill, and shouldn't be named a SIM. Let's hope one day... Cheers!

[@cheerfuldriver2695]

Kylotonn is one of the few that can spoil its prototypes. In the first part, the graphics are beautiful, warm, soft colors, fog on the road and beautifully reproduced motorbikes, especially in the garage (Xbox one X). Two are already on the Wrc 10 engine and everything is less detailed, faded, only the sunsets are nice. The sounds of the engine are correct, especially the exhaust sounds great, but they are drowned out by too loud sounds of passing obstacles. The camera from behind the glass is ok, but the one behind the steering wheel is not very playable. Tires and brakes get hot, but I have not noticed any effect on driving. The view from behind the motorcycle is tragic, not only is the pendulum still running away (dynamic view) and unfortunately it cannot be changed. It's nice that you can buy parts in career mode and you can finally see what you win. I am able to ride motorbikes in real life and I do not know what this game can be called a simulation.

[@SimUKReviews]

Fundamentally the Isle of Man Snaefell track is wonderous.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJCYfYGGZtGandk

[@itznj0442]

I agree I want less of an arcade game

[@ral0958]

If the engine is already on top gear and touching the rev limiter is mecanically (in real life) impossible gain more speed, even by slipstream or downhill... So is not a bug but what it feels is that the bikes reach top speed really fast. maybe the game should weaken a little bit the power in relation off the CC to have a more natural(real) aceleration.

[@SimUKReviews]

Maybe, pretty sure reduced wind would allow 1/2 mph increase, but yes I see where you are coming from.

[@ral0958]

@@SimUKReviews is like when you hit rev limiter in 1st gear 2nd gear...3...4...5... nomather what you do you can't gain more speed and in 6gear is the same. You are playing so get a better perspective of this in the game than me obviously but try to adjust gearing or choose other bike whit more top speed but same power, probably then you will feel slipstream. I'm not criticising you, I just know what I'm saying and hope it helps :)

[@gomezthechimp1116]

If I remember correctly, the 0-60 times in the last one were completely inaccurate; like 7 or 8 seconds. Even my 15 year old CB1300 can do that in about half the time.

[@dotnetdevni]

Lol if only the roads looked anywhere have decent to that in reality

[@zimworlddee919]

I love this game.

[@teddym2808]

the sense of speed is indeed amazing, but I still can't believe there is no optional in game music.. I just can't fathom a hi speed racing game where I don't have a choice of tunes to go along with it..that's just cheap and lazy.. cause that's what optional means, for those who wanted it, they could have it, and those who don't, they could play it without. Such a shame as I refuse to buy it because of this, even though the speed feel has me salivating.

[@philth69]

Glad they have improved the game gives me good hope's for test drive unlimited 3 as kylotonn is making it.👍👍

[@SimUKReviews]

For sure

[@zazaaaaadd]

Oh oh!

[@joehendrson3815]

I THINK EVERYTHING YOU SAID CAN BE FIXED WITH PATCHES/ UPDATES ,HOWEVER YOUR RIGHT.

[@loadertje]

when releas ?

[@SimUKReviews]

Out now.

[@paparoach007]

I think your analysis is very good but in a couple of areas a bit unrealistic or slightly over the top respectively. The company that made this game is not AAA-titled meaning they won't be bringing out a game that is 100% realistic, because nothing can be 100% realistic. On the other hand they do have the technology and the skills to make a game look and feel realistic as possible but the Pay-to-Win mechanics are a big no no for me as well. I just hope for in the future the devs bring out regular updates and listen to their community. I won't be buying this game until I know for certain that the game will be updated regularly and people are generally happier with the game because of the updates. After watching your review I do think its a huge step up from the first game and I hope to see Sim UK share more news and game play in the future.

[@SimUKReviews]

Thank you.

[@flameonthebeat4198]

This is the best motorcycle racing game to date in my opinion. You have to learn how to ride to enjoy it!

[@SimUKReviews]

The Snaefell Mountain Course experience is amazing...everything else is sub-par.

[@TheShmikes]

Hope they've sorted the online gaming as the first one was none existent

[@SimUKReviews]

it is better.

[@capncruncky2378]

I know what u mean but we're still racing TT1 online... gotta set it to all bikes and other tracks

[@fritzkaraldo8452]

Can't really get better at the game. Just yesterday I tried my first Classic TT. All the AI and me on the single Suzuki the game has to offer. I lead the whole race, second starter AI did come close when I did a pit stop, but nothing that worried me. The entire race I was infront, and had a comfortable lead of about 40 seconds. No indication whatsoever that I was to slow. Since everybody rode the same hardware I though "Tough race yes, fun yes, glad I won in my first try at the full course". Stupid me, after I done the race the AI needs to catch up, which they did. Couldn't belive my eyes. I had a 74 minutes xx second ride, and the AI 73 xx seconds which made me 6th overall. I still feel so cheated. A couple of minutes ago I finished a career mode time trail on the TT course. Race the sections 7-12 or what. Due to a few crashes I could follow the AI a few sections. When I had a break zone, they just falt out hammerd through that. How should a beginner learn the course and race hard when you stand no chance?

[@SimUKReviews]

Milky Quail to the rescue.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJCYfYGGZtGandk

[@manx1569]

Not everyone likes full simulators. I much prefer the original Race Driver Grid to Gran Turismo etc

[@SimUKReviews]

Hey Manx, no of course not. I am all for having assists to remove the full on sim experience for those who want/need it. But for me, without that authentic challenge I simply lose interest.

[@antwango]

still waiting for PD to either do a TT or add TT and bikes to GT!!! They were rumoured to have been scanning the island 7yrs ago!!!! before GT SPORT came out!! They were seen scanning the track!!! Just imagine all this on PS5 with PSVR2! PD will nail the graphics and the replays and the physics and the dynamic weather day and night as well as having the Nurb!

[@SimUKReviews]

OK mind melt, but PD?

[@antwango]

@@SimUKReviews Polyphony Digital, the guys who did GT also did TT and that was an awesome motorcycle game and the bike physics and mechanics were the best... it was the best bike game even to this day from 2006 and i would assume if they are thinking about implementing bikes into a full GT game and not a seperate TT title then it would have all elements that you asked for like dynamic night/day/weather cycle, improved physics, improved realism, proper replay camera angles and improved graphics.... its the hope and dream anyway as GT coming onto PS5 hardware will be the full fat GT hopefully... PD were spotted about on the Isle of Man 7/8 yrs ago now... but yeah at the moment bikes coming to GT or another TT game seems like a long way away, but yeah the 2006/7/8 game had tuning and riding position and stance but because it was only on ps2 it only had 6 bikes on the track

[@SimUKReviews]

OK Thank you, and I agree with you too.

[@jeremybeatle52]

Seems to have the same problems as the last one.. Maybe that's why they didn't drop a demo.

[@SimUKReviews]

Nowhere near s bad as the last one, greatly improved handling and physics.

[@xxticxxtocxx7909]

Change steering sensitivity from the default -10 to -1. Thank me later.

[@SimUKReviews]

I'll try it.

[@Amcl94]

Just got it for £6.99 on Xbox, can’t beat it

[@Addy29plus5]

Enjoyable game

[@swankiey]

Nintendo switch?

[@SimUKReviews]

Not 100%, but pretty sure it has released on Switch??

[@richardnorman1158]

Great game and wow is it fast

[@intransikbeats]

completely agree; this game is good, but they ve rushed it the cheap way and it feels too arcady without any real challenges on the carreer mode; you haven t even talked about the cheap multiplayer :/ 9 different lobbies which are most of the time empty, cannot chat with the players that join you; Basic single stats at the end of the race...

[@SimUKReviews]

Agreed with end of race stats. MP is better but not ideal also.

[@L-_beaver]

They need sidecars ASAP

[@dimitrireinhart]

Seems I did my job quite well then :) too bad we didnt have more time

[@SimUKReviews]

What is your Job Dimitri?

[@SimUKReviews]

I'm playing dumb, you worked on this game? Well if you did, then can I say that you got a lot right! It just missed the mark on Simulation levels for me. BUT what a wonderfully Great Snaefell experience, best ever.

[@dimitrireinhart]

@@SimUKReviews Designed the physics and stats of the bikes, in coordination with the physics coder. Don't work there anymore, still proud of what came out :) If you have question, ask away ;)

[@dimitrireinhart]

@@SimUKReviews I'd say for a two man physics design rebuild it's quite alright indeed :) wish we had more time and ressources, needed some more polish All in all, we wanted to have a great IOM simulation and I think the video you posted of the two side-by-side is proof that we achieved that at least :p

[@SimUKReviews]

I would agree with you there, strongly. I absolutely love what you have done, and just 2 people! WOW, well done! Well my review is I hope a heads up to the remaining devs that an arcade game with perks and pointless racing is not what the vast majority want for such a fantastic recreation of Snaefell. Do you think those in charge are looking to create something a bit more...Simulated in the long run, or was it always intended to become more of an arcade experience?

[@44SirLoopalot]

8:35 looks like the same shitty physics as in #1, this happened quite often when you touched the limit. Thats why I wont buy this game. Wait till they sell the track licence to the makers of Ride.

[@MadMaxxxxxxxx]

44SirLoopalot its not the Same shit 😜👌its realy Good. The first 1 was shit thats right 👌

[@noneofyerbiz7099]

Played it and was quite disappointed. Throwing a bike into a turn while trail braking just doesn't feel right at all. It's completely different from the sim aspect of MotoGP or Ride, and very "arcade" feeling.

[@windi1982]

Noneofyerbiz Agree! It’s nothing but swimming around on the track. Even Milestone is far ahead in terms of physics. I ride bikes in real life over 15 years now and i don’t expect a game being anything like riding a real motorcycle but this (both) games simple don’t feel right.

[@zimworlddee919]

You complain on a game you wont buy.that means you have not played it.hah,still you judge..

[@bratosin1]

@@windi1982 how do u play ? 3rd view? Aids on /off ? Because this game is made to be played with helmet /first view with all the aids Turned off to really feel the game and the realism

[@Clint_Beastwood87]

Death sentence by hanging on main square for those who ride in 3rd person.

[@SimUKReviews]

wait till you try 1st in this version, it's a bit boaty!

[@Clint_Beastwood87]

@@SimUKReviews 5 hours in and absolutely love it. Its weird sometimes but way better than first game. Cant stop riding classic bikes

[@karlosh9286]

That's a bit harsh ! But yeah , I never really got 3rd person perspective on racing sims.

[@krisztm7221]

Agree with every thing you sad.

[@emulation2369]

Just bought it for 2$ My knowledge about bikes is something like "it has 2 wheels" so wish me luck 😆

[@SimUKReviews]

Lol

[@SimUKReviews]

Make sure to watch my uploaded tutorial slash comparison its brill

[@emulation2369]

@@SimUKReviews will do 😎

[@tipou900]

The problem is that this game is a simulator... so you will need skills to be good at it! Some people will not like it because of that. Impatient or just bad at it.

[@SimUKReviews]

It has very good assists that will enable many players to learn.

[@boneav83]

Whichever version you play, even back to the PS2 game, the main word i use is frustration :)

[@stpbasss3773]

Exactly it's the same reason people hate Moto GP game's they just suck and don't have the patience. All I play is Moto GP , Ride 3 and this game and TT 2 is a great game .

[@bigbeatmanifesto6517]

Does anyone wanna play some online on pc?

[@svenschiller4257]

I enjoyed the original TT way more then TT2, I’m not a fan of this game since the camera is moving too much when cornering... I wouldn’t suggest buying the game for the full amount wait till it is on sale.

[@SimUKReviews]

You can turn the camera sway off in settings

[@svenschiller4257]

@@SimUKReviews I’m going to check that out, I appreciate the info

[@svenschiller4257]

@@SimUKReviews so definitely just did one race at Ireland having the automatic camera off and I’m able to outrun the competition even tho I didn’t knew the track I made it in 2nd place with only 2-3 seconds slower then 1st position, I have to say I had 2 mess ups otherwise I would of won that race. Thank you again this helped a lot 😎

[@SimUKReviews]

Awesome!

[@leroyrussell8766]

Have modders come to the rescue yet? I can say this...anyone who is going to make a game like this needs to understand that they have two distinct audiences. The first group will be looking for something that is fun. They will like much of what you described as the arcade mechanics of this game. They will like perks, power ups, etc... They will also like things to be unlocked, such as liveries, custom leathers/helmets, etc.. They will also want the riding aspect to be easier. The second group will be more interested in a simulator. Any arcade mechanic inserted in the game, is going to lower the appeal, for this group. This group is looking for the most authentic experience a game can offer. They want to feel as if they are really there, on a real bike, riding on the actual track. This group would be happiest with no arcade mechanics, and no unrealistic unlocks. This group would want a practice/solo mode, where you can ride the track on any motorcycle, for as many laps as they can do. This group would love it if bike choices included actual bikes that real world racers rode on. Even if it didn't include every single bike, for every single year. DLC packs could be offered that added bikes, if necessary. So...what anyone who wants to make a game like this needs to understand is that they need to make two distinctly different modes for these games. Sim or Simulator should always be used in the name of the mode for the second group. The first group is trickier. They want more fun than sim, but people's egos get in the way. Arcade and Casual are mistakenly assumed to be a derogatory description. Let me explain. I've seen people on Nexus Mods, using every mod they can find that removes every bit of difficulty in a game like Mass Effect Legendary Edition but then play the game on Insanity mode. I mean, WTF? You see, their ego won't allow them a better experience by just setting the game to Casual. So, for the names of the mode, something like "ProSim," could be used for the simulator mode, and then something like, "Challenge Power Up," could be used for the mode that is less sim and more fun...for those looking for that experience. A description along with those choices could advise you to know yourself, and what would be the most fun for you. It can say that the sim mode is for those looking for the most accurate simulation at the expense of things that some people consider to be fun in a game, while the Challenge mode focuses on fun, at the expense of some sim aspects. What they need to stop doing is thinking that they can make a hybrid that will please both groups. The old saying, "If you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody," was never before more true than it is here...and frankly that's true in any game where some are looking for a sim, and some are just looking for a fun game.

[@SimUKReviews]

The track is near perfect. The bike is better but not perfect yet, and no the modders have not come to the rescue, BUT this is one hell of an experience; be sure to check out my Tutorial with Milky Quail.

[@zorrozorro6415]

Трассы от ps4 отличаются немного

[@palegrapesoup4200]

Dreadful noise coming from the bike at top end all the time. I will avoid this one, game dev seem to love releasing unfinished games nowadays.

[@MrKingJavo]

Game doesn’t look as sim as gp bikes.

[@SimUKReviews]

In some areas it is, in others it is not.

[@ivanfojan8859]

What I can't understand is why they didn't bring these physics updates to the original? The cynic in me would say that if they did do that, then no one would bother buying this. So, the devs abandon the first game and force all the original buyers to have to pay full price, again, if they want improved physics. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour and a complete scam!

[@SimUKReviews]

Complete physics rebuild, not an update at all, it had to.be a new game. And I have to say it is a lot better.

[@ivanfojan8859]

Why did it have to be a new game? You already said that the sound and graphics were almost the same? The players of the original will be extremely miffed that they could not bring these changes to the first iteration, especially as they were pointed out from day one. I'm afraid games companies like this make me sick, basically producing "abandonware" games, just releasing and making a few small updates, then moving on to "next years version", which is basically the same but with the problems fixed from the first version! Absolutely shocking and a kick in the balls for all the original customers........

[@MarkRiddellRacing]

@@SimUKReviews is it the same game engine? If so why couldn't they have just updated it? I'm sure they developed this much quicker and chesper by copying the track and textures, but still charging AAA prices.

[@Dannzt]

So this is a racing game that claims to be realistic, and there is no practise or qualifying. So you always start first then? That will get boring really fast

[@gomezthechimp1116]

I don`t think it matters as the races are basically hotlaps.

[@Dannzt]

@@gomezthechimp1116 yeah i know, but it just feels wrong. I want to be able to use the other riders as a reference. For an example, if im the 30th rider to start. How many am i able to pass, are the riders behind me faster, understand what i mean?

[@garnhamr]

motorbike racing games are fundamentally flawed unfortunately. Unless you happen to have an arcade bike to control it ofcourse

[@SimUKReviews]

I do....and it feel so much better :-) But then one of the wires broke, so now I don't again :-(

[@garnhamr]

@@SimUKReviews it's alright for some :p

[@earthexplorer579]

why cant any moto races cant add vr , just unbelievable

[@SimUKReviews]

try grpbikes

[@davidbrock2450]

More simulation, less arcade.