Any understanding is irrelevant

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This meeting was held on Zoom on the 7th December 2022
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[@irislind5313]

Lovely guitar music and the other music. ❤

[@kathrynrose8899]

Been listening to your message for a couple of years now, never know what to say 😂 but just thought I'd say hello 👋❤️

[@michaelwilinski6631]

Hello Kathryn rose. I've been enjoying 🎶 Kenneth for a short time now. I really like this talk and how it's so clear that the words can only point and are never "it". I too don't know what to say in response to the resonance I feel so sometimes I'll just send a wow. I saw your comment and just wanted to say hi. Take care.

[@kathrynrose8899]

@@michaelwilinski6631 hi 👋

[@michaelwilinski6631]

@@kathrynrose8899 Thanks for the hi back Katheryn rose 🌹 Somtimes I wonder what it would be like to spend some time with Kenneth or any one of the Nonduality speakers I have been watching recently on KZbin. Pretty ordinary I suppose. Although I can't help but think it would be interestingly different if not special. Simply words and projections arising here one minute gone the next. Good day to you.

[@0m1k]

Gorgeous shirt print 🤪

[@HarrisonClark-km6cz]

Understanding is irrelvent, there is no control or self who can control YET everything can be felt, the worst nigthmares of the most extreme pain imaginable can be felt, endless dreams and nightmares happening to none and comeplty out of control. and YET it can all be felt

[@saharadevi3131]

Loved the moment when all questioning became moot, absurd. And melting...Thank you for being unconditional Love🤩

[@silliussoddus3509]

Nice shirt

[@johnlemon7377]

Hi Kenneth. The Course In Miracles does not speak to a person, it speaks to the Son Of God who thinks that he has departed from the oneness with god and by this become an individual. The course illuminates that there is no person and no separation anf that separation is impossible and pure illusion. It seems to be a course because it has lessons but all of them illuminate from different angels the core message that there is no world, no individual and no separation. Did anybody ever described it that way to you?

[@framichetti]

wonderful emptiness 🎆

[@GiselaHengl-Nodualidad-Indaga]

Totally agreed 💗💗💗✅✅✅

[@abrahamabraham9942]

Yes

[@paulineisabelbell606]

♥️

[@siewkonsum7291]

Kenneth Madden 🙏🙏🙏 In the sudden 'wake up' experience, _Understanding is delusion._ _Not understanding is blankness!_ Sudden wake-up is not about guessing, concepts, logical thinking or reasoning thoughts, past experiences, bookish knowledge, philosophy, science, religion, monastic rituals, beliefs, etc. The sudden _direct experience of wake up_ 💥 - doesn't depend on any kind of rote practice, methodology, understanding or knowing anything whatsoever at all! 🙏🙏🙇

[@rosa-boom-nonduality]

simply unknowable - just this - 10xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈⚪❤️

[@andrewforrest108]

lovely guitar Kenneth! would love to buy your recordings.... if ever?

[@richmac6345]

There's no one there to apparently sell it to you and no one to buy it apparently?

[@kennethmadden]

Hi Andrew, did not see this. I’m going to try to get something together in the next few months. If you’re on my mailing list you’ll hear about it

[@lucyinthe-sky]

hi Kenneth, can you please activate the subtitles? thx

[@asrisirimiri6186]

Thank you for what you are doing Kenneth. Isn't your ideas of "everything is appearing as what it is and nothing more; and there is no teaching, ...there's nothing and everything; there's no person... any understanding is irrelevant, etc" is also all just ideas? Concepts? Please illuminate

[@FirstPersonHood]

Of course! Kenneth says this constantly.

[@mattstocks4749]

Ultimately all language or descriptions are dualistic. This message is beyond concepts. It’s reality laid bare of all concepts and naked of any ideas or superimpositions. And when that is seen - it is indescribable. Because any words would not be it either.

[@maryrosemitchell9682]

Is it possible that some part of the brain changed in some way to clear the way for this perception to occur ? I know this is not really perceived but i don’t know what other word to use to describe what is or is not happening. The brain has lots of chemical and energetic happenings so is it possible that a change in the brain in some people has brought “this” ? Also when it’s described that a “contraction” or sense of self formed at a young age, this sounds like someone knows something. Thoughts?? I enjoy and appreciate your videos so much!! Thanks Kenneth!!

[@FirstPersonHood]

Seeing that all mental activity is secondary is readily accessible to ALL.

[@richmac6345]

Lovely question. I was in a coma and wonder what affect it might have on my ability to have the me fall away

[@paulrobinson5739]

Am I correct in saying I was never actually born it was always this Kenneth? Thank you

[@ChildlikeSenseOfWonder]

🤣🤣This It Course!😂😅💞✨

[@kebobscat]

Is that you playing in the beginning?? Pretty.

[@richmac6345]

Why are we "Apparent people?" I wonder if this awakening or me falling away tends to happen to people who 1. Want it 2. Put in time learning about it? 3. Meditate and contemplate it? I mean, what tends to generally preced someone awakening? Or probably doesn't happen to people who know nothing about non duality?

[@FirstPersonHood]

The awakening is a revealation. Revealations just appear. No person controls revealations. A clear seeing that Human Psychological Suffering is ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY.

[@minimal3734]

It has happened to people through traumatic accidents and also for no apparent reason at all, where the people haven't heard anything about non-duality or meditation. I also don't think that meditating for years guarantees awakening. You probably can't make any general statement about it. The truth is a pathless land - JK.

[@miket1591]

5:10

[@leonardini9883]

Refreshing nothingness.

[@Cosimo_Carbini]

❤