AOE PROTECTION PALADIN GUIDE (Leveling, Boosting, Talents, BiS, Gold Farming) WoW TBC Classic

[@MortyShippuden]

I thought concentration was not one of the spells, in the 2.2 patch notes it does not have the AoE change listed next to it

[@gerrylee8304]

Cons. wasnt nerfed in 2.2.0. For Mage there have been also other aoe dmg spells wich arent capped as well for example Flamestrike if i remmeber corectly

[@Toyhouze]

@@gerrylee8304 thanks for the correction, you're right about consecration and flamestrike.

[@mounaim493]

@@noble61483 can u send the link plz ?

[@iroh7998]

@@noble61483 also scholo and strat are probably all great.

[@BugCatLove]

You mean consecration?

[@Batmonthesequel]

I’m now approaching 70 and used this guide as a reference throughout the journey. Great guide, must have watched it like 10 times in bits and pieces.

[@Toyhouze]

That is so awesome to hear. Thank you. Inspiring me to make more :)

[@JamJam-VIII-II-XC]

I thought this comment was saying that they were almost 70 yrs old irl

[@Valfodur]

Thanks for the video! Wonderful resource. I jumped the gun and switched around 31 and found it to be very enjoyable, and only got better as I went. Only 41 now, but quickly gaining more. Long live the AOE Paladin!

[@Danielerkson]

Did this guide from lvl 32-58 and im now entering the outlands, def a very useful guide! Thx alot and keep the guides comming!

[@angelbozhilov3220]

U done it without any questing ? Really ? In what time roughly?

[@feo130]

@@angelbozhilov3220 I would wager probably 8-10 days played.

[@FalkorStranix]

One of the best paladin guides out there, thank you for this Toyhouze!

[@Toyhouze]

Wow, thanks!

[@imb4]

I skipped TBC but I want to be ready for WotLK. Therefore I´m using this guide right now to AOE level my paladin from 60 to 70 in full T3. It is absolutely a blast! Thanks a lot

[@amnesia998]

Thank you for the amazing tutorial. Can't wait to try out the prot paladin for the first time in TBC.

[@ryuranzou]

I'm checking out leveling as prot paladin with my friend playing resto druid and I love it. He just moonfires stuff and they walk into my consecrate in these areas and with his thorns I do even more damage. I just wish I went blacksmithing since the server I'm playing on only has high level shield spikes for 150 gold. Really thinking of dropping my enchanting even though it's at 150 just to grab that for gear and shield spikes, because that's so much damage I'm missing out on.

[@hahailikecows23]

Super solid guide ! Most in depth guide ive seen yet . It’s got me convinced to level a Paladin for sure

[@Toyhouze]

Glad I could help!

[@TheWoWisok]

Saved this to a playlist I have of AoE info, great video, would have liked it if you explained a bit more on the talents but it is pretty self explanatory, just a tiny bit frustrating for leveling since you don't know what to take next. Loved the video!

[@denome3725]

Also, thank you for such a well developed and in depth guide for the paladin. I am definitely learning so much more in preparation for The Burning Crusade. p.s. 26 holy damage from Retribution Aura +15 from the set bonus +50% from talents = 60 damage as AOE on every mob

[@joshuatucker2521]

Them maths.. they don't add up

[@mcdadea1996]

@@joshuatucker2521 actually it does add up...

[@hesketh7085]

Levelling my first Paladin in TBC and this guide was amazing, thank you.

[@La4edimension]

@@parkerfrode5101 really?

[@simonlundh]

@@parkerfrode5101 Can you recommend another video or guide? Im 64 prot pala atm

[@bass-dc9175]

On the Libram I have to disagree. Do NOT go for either of these for AOE farming, but instead go for: Libram of the Eternal Rest (Rare: LvL68 - Sethek Halls - Darkweaver Syth) Equip: Increases the damage of your Consecration spell by up to 47. Since Consecration is unaffected by the AOE cap, this increases your damage ALOT.

[@Toyhouze]

Agreed!

[@2NextLvL]

Amazing video, gives basicly all the info i need to start playing this in TBC with 0 knowledge beforehand. Subbed :)

[@Toyhouze]

Glad it was helpful! :)

[@bankutsuuzumaki8534]

Nice guide! Liked it a lot! One thing that would have been helpful in the section of "where to farm at what lvl" some video material of how to make the pulls after showing each zone! other then that Thanks for the guide bud!

[@Thelittlesthoboson]

did i miss it or did you just not add in the bit where you go over the level 70 version of talents. Last i saw you stopped at 40, holy shield

[@djuqpl]

yup, pls give us an update! :)

[@Toyhouze]

You're right! I dropped the ball on that. I think this is a solid level 70 version of the talents, it's got improved retribution aura and all the prot mitigation talents. Feel free to be flexible with some of the talent points as I would say it's not a hard "this is the best spec" type of build! tbc.wowhead.com/talent-calc/paladin/-05305033100001525215-052050003023

[@maglen69]

@@Toyhouze Just saying. Crusade is a terrible talent. 3 points for a measly 3% increase? Take a single one of those points into Avengers shield to make tanking dungeons much easier.

[@Toyhouze]

@@maglen69 this is more for AOE farming moreso than tanking for a group. I agree. Avenger's shield is better for pulling as a tank than 3% damage.

[@topdecktom]

Gave me all the info I was looking for and more. Extremely well done, thanks for all the help!

[@Toyhouze]

Thank you for the compliment!

[@wuwi5833]

Can't wait for the Sword of Almond!

[@mikebeje6650]

What sword?

[@Toyhouze]

@@mikebeje6650 sword of omen. I was saying it like Amen, or even... Almond.

[@100based9]

Lmao

[@suckmylol]

Idk if it's worth mentioning, but I have this trinket on my warrior in classic. Heart of the Scale (from Overlord Wyrmthalak in LBRS) On use does 20 fire damage to attackers for 5 min. It's pretty solid for aoe tanking in classic, along with the rag trinket.

[@xuien]

Really liked this guide, been leveling my pally prot and just love the whole thorns aspect. Love it when I get druid healers just for thorns in dungeons.

[@jesohs]

Great guide, though id recommend getting absorption to chest and not stats. Its much better.

[@justthompson]

Not sure if you are planning an Update foe this video, but since Conc is not affected by the AOE damage cap, the Libram off the 1st boss in Sethek Halls is Best, because Concencrate will be your Primary Damage dealer.

[@justthompson]

Secondly, Items like Cloak of Flames, Razor Gauntlets, essence of the Pure Flame, rely on you being Hit. If you are Level 70, AOE farming lower level content, you will not be getting hit often, Mobs will be Missing you, or you will Parry/Dodge/Block most of their attacks. It may be possible for a blocked hit to trigger the damage effect, but misses, dodges, and parries do not.

[@Toyhouze]

100% agree with everything, thank you for posting!

[@baluray2]

Great vid. I had an AOE paladin in BC. Wasn’t going to play classic BC, but now I think I might just go for it lol

[@Toyhouze]

Have fun!

[@dukim632]

42-54 zulfarak gy, level every ~30-45 minutes, it will start hard but as you go up the levels you will start owning it 66-70 = BM beasts, this is super fast and not too hard you will also get tons of gold

[@luiscarlotriggiano7317]

Where are those BM beasts??

[@Kurathis552]

@@luiscarlotriggiano7317 I believe BM = Black Morass.

[@roy-ronoazoro3657]

If you could post up a full talent page that would be brilliant :) Great video, very insightful, much enjoy.

[@pablomercado2844]

i wished you shows us how the talent tree looked like built all the way to 60. u did until 40 something and i was left with about 15 talent point unsure of where to allocate them. non the less it was very insightful

[@Toyhouze]

Sorry man, it should be in the description or comments

[@NemoN0body]

just a note on the Thermaplugg's Central Core, the shield reflection sucks, i used it to tank SM dungeons from 32 till 36 and checked the dps meters to find it did 2% of my total damage, so i would advice replacing it with an actual defense shield or if you're rich/lucky get "The Green Tower" at 36.

[@American_Mike]

I am watching this, while a mage is boosting my Paladin in SP.

[@gerrylee8304]

Thanks for the amazing work. Thats really a nice and helpful guide for aoe grind and boost. Cant wait for TBC classic! Hype

[@Toyhouze]

Thank you! Glad it was helpful!

[@CaffeineInjected]

Great video and kudos for the obvious amount of work put into this.

[@Toyhouze]

Thanks so much :)

[@d0k0night]

Thank you for the guide, what I think would be great as well, is a guide for the people who want to roll a pally when TBC launches, but the absolute fastest way to hit 70. Mage AoE is hit, but would dungeon boosting in RFC, SFK, and potentially *still faster* than questing in the open world? Because if you're going to boost, then you're going to want to be at the front of the levelling pack as quickly as possible. Let's see a dungeon boosting guide for pallies who want to get to 70 as quickly as possible and ideally avoid open-world questing unless absolutely necessary. On PvP servers it's going to be an absolute bloodbath with alliance wanting to gank horde pallies non-stop.

[@swiftjuice168]

1.) Dungeon farming (not being boosted) will ALWAYS be a faster and more efficient approach to leveling from 1-60 since we’ll no longer need to worry about Azeroth reputations or gear 2.) Boosting will likely NOT be an extremely popular activity in the opening days of the expansion since most players will be concentrating on reaching level 70 and not spending their time boosting low level Blood Elves 3.) As I’m sure you’re aware now (seeing as your comment is a month old), both new races are available to players at the release of the Pre-Patch, allowing for everyone to have the opportunity to reach 60 before the Dark Portal opens

[@d0k0night]

@@swiftjuice168 Yep my questions are now outdated. Blood Elves/Dranei are introduced in an pre-patch, making much of my questions 100% obsolete - and I'm super excited for that.

[@simmot5213]

Nice video, I'm making prot paladin alt for gold farming, heroics and 10 man's plus the occasional 25 man raid also. Really excited for tbc! I wanna level it now but I play horde haha

[@Toyhouze]

Thank you, I know the feeling!

[@clovis20]

One of the best videos I have seen about Pallys. Are you gonna make another one for the WOTLK Classic ?? or just an update level 70-80 (Gear, Specs, Leveling Spots)??

[@spelling_ax]

Thanks for posting the links to talent trees. I (as others have mentioned) would like to see what's recommended level by level after 34/35. Thanks for the great video!

[@La4edimension]

You only listed talents up to I think lvl 38, what about the talents up to 60? 70 ? ===> MAIN question regarding talents would be: "PARRY vs Improved Seal of the crusader" (in the ret tree)

[@Toyhouze]

Hey sorry about that, I'm dropping a detailed follow up video tomorrow that will explain in detail!

[@mullenio4200]

Great guide. I didn't know anything about Paladins but now I'm an expert. I'm hoping to run a Pally alt. 😁

[@Toyhouze]

Glad I could help!

[@Claireeyy]

whats the full talent build onwards from 35

[@fantasyfootballbrowserbowl347]

Yeah he missed that

[@MrRoscario]

you rly have to change that section with the Consecration Cap, because there is non, otherwise very nice video :)

[@NicolaiMainz]

Dude, I'm pretty sure Retribution Aura doesn't scale with Spellpower. Also, as others have pointed out, Consecration isn't hit by AoE cap. I enjoy your videos, but you're literally putting out wrong information, please research before putting out information - or don't mention stuff as facts if you actually don't know :). Besides that, another great and super informal video, thanks! 👍

[@swiftjuice168]

Correct - Retribution does NOT scale with spell damage.

[@knightimer2]

33:52 one thing I found is that you can cleanse off the inkspewer's hit chance reduction. At 42 you can cleanse magic effects and it's a magic effect.

[@Toyhouze]

Ahh great find! Very nice!

[@nickolasaday6777]

Stockade Pauldrons at lvl 50 are awesome as well with the 15 defense

[@gojiramonster2388]

Thanks for more TBC content! Can’t wait!

[@Toyhouze]

You bet!

[@Rinz26]

Awesome vid. Straight to the point and great info. Thanks!

[@Toyhouze]

Super glad you found it useful!

[@PaleMist]

Thank you once again. I think that this will be useful for a stable exp income in addition to my dungeon reputation grinding strategy: I was just going to go to any place which I could find in Outland when not dungeon grinding (Have you heard of this strategy? Grind dungeons to get rep while skipping quests. This is to get the additional gold instead of exp reward at 70 to make getting epic flying faster), but with this, I should be able to cut my time and make it to the Nether Storm or Shadowmoon Valley and make 70 in an even shorter amount of time. Oh yeah that... a tip: Do EVERYTHING which you can to avoid doing any and all quests until level 70 as the exp will become extra gold by a significant amount; this will radically move you closer to that epic mount and shorten repeatable quests. But first, have fun! If you don't want to skip quests, then do so. I intend to do everything which I can to reach that epic flying faster, and this will provide a steady exp income while not in a dungeon. Anyway, THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOURSELF USEFUL AND EASING AT LEAST MY PALADIN BURDENS! Also, I would like to get your opinion on my build, @ legacy-wow dot com (trying to prevent this from being censored), in the URL after "tal=" in paladin talents, replace all those numbers with "0000000000000000000005025133503021022215010520530102000000000000" without quotes, would you tell my your opinion of this build?

[@robertp457]

Back in TBC I did every quest and I had enough gold by the time I was finished to buy epic flying. And I did them at the appropriate level and not at 70.

[@PaleMist]

@@robertp457 Really? Do tell.

[@57precision]

I've leveled several toons to 70 back in TBC, and they usually ding 70 sometime halfway through Blade's edge if you do appropriate dungeon groups for your level as well. Leaves you with all of Netherstorm and SMV to get quest gold, and trust me brother that is a LOT of quests. And if you're bringing up a fresh 60, then it's fine to do Hellfire and Zangarmarsh to get those outland greens. Player power goes up exponentially in like the first hour of questing in Hellfire, so you wouldn't want to make yourself miserable and just rely on dungeon drops. On the other hand, if you have a dedicated dungeon cleave group then that's also a good strat as you need to get the rep anyway, might as well do it while leveling.

[@PaleMist]

@@57precision Question: How long would leveling through Outland with only dungeons to get to 70 take?

[@57precision]

@@PaleMist somebody else will have to chime in here but I certainly wouldn't try to pug my way to 70 unless you're tanking. If you've got a dedicated cleave group and a prot pally tank I think that could be really good.

[@christiansvendsen6668]

Very good guide but your 'list' of why starts and ends with 1 :) so main takeaway is for bis AOE boosting, however what about how coveted it is for raiding, heroics, pvp etc?

[@Toyhouze]

Good point!

[@jasonburnley8339]

Thank you kindly for the detailed video. I was hoping you could drop a response and let me know what UI add-on you are using and perhaps what else you run while soloing/raiding. I am a returning TBC player after around 6 years away and simply cannot remember what I had made use of previously or even if they are compatible with the TBC Classic version. Thanks so much for all the great info!

[@Toyhouze]

Hey very happy the video was helpful. I'm not sure what the addon is to be totally honest. I posted in the bottom of the video links to the youtube videos I grabbed clips from, not all of the clips are mine. :)

[@Toyhouze]

I can tell you "Recount" was used to look at damage sources.

[@Vince_Seezer]

somehow you didnt' finished the talent spec progression

[@Sevisija]

Ye thats the most important lol

[@michaelclausen9140]

@@Sevisija go under More info there allmost at the start you finde 2 links to Final specs 1 whit Ret aura and 1 whit sanc aura :-)

[@Kalameeto]

Consecration isn't affected by aoe dmg cap. Also you can just say "best" when you are talking about a class, BiS supposes there is a slot...

[@kiddink5167]

imagine being that naggy

[@GG-jm6gi]

i found that taking seal of command in the ret tree is well worth it... hitting 3 mobs with 1 swing is worth the talent point losing the point in imp ret aura.

[@JuanCarlos-nx6lf]

Nice content man, keep it up! TBC Classic will be awesome for sure

[@Toyhouze]

Thanks man, will do!

[@justinTime077]

The Paladin King approves these messages. I put Fiery Blast (badlands enchant from a quest) on my trash blade in Classic. Was wondering if there was a better weapon for that.

[@mossyloggs]

Great vid man! Did you touch on priofessions at all, i could'nt seem to find it. You think its worth struggling to get Jewlcrafting and Enchanting up to make use of the spell power bonus or is that overkill?

[@dailybs555]

There is also a trinket from BRD that reduces dmg taken, with a few % chance to activate.

[@katzenking385]

Force of will

[@Toyhouze]

Nice!

[@Dirty_bubs]

You’re doing God’s work sir

[@Toyhouze]

I appreciate it!

[@100based9]

Love your channel. Make me excited to play a paladin.

[@MrCaradras]

Great guide! I was afraid I have to get the expensive Skullflame Shield. Figured out it wouldn't scale that well with sp anymore in Patch 2.4.3 (which is probably the state we would get).

[@swiftjuice168]

@381 322 The Lifesteal portion of the shield scales at a 1:1 ratio with your spell damage. The AoE damage portion doesn’t scale at all with your spell damage. Overall, it is the best shield to farm/boost with. The only exception would be Force Reactive Disk because it would be guaranteed damage to all mobs on every block.

[@SolracZapzap]

Amazing video mate

[@Toyhouze]

Thanks a lot!

[@Shockingbeard]

Man I can’t wait for TBC! thanks for this, I’m planning on going tank paladin but I’m stuck between Belf or Draenei

[@Toyhouze]

My pleasure! I'm in the same situation lol

[@Zwiebel4]

Why Draenai though? The +1% hit of Draenai is not as good as the human +5 Expertise. Draenai Priest is awesome, but Draenai Paladin is suboptimal unless its for the style.

[@Shockingbeard]

@@Zwiebel4 i like how they look to be honest

[@Zwiebel4]

@@Shockingbeard nothing wrong with that.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@Zwiebel4 The +1% Melee Hit Rating from being a Draenei is incredibly beneficial since our taunt relies on melee hit rating and there are countless situations where that can be vital. The Human's Expertise increase depends on how the Paladin is actually tanking (This is in reference to the people considering Blessings may still be an option for tanking)

[@austens8168]

Learned a lot, this coming from a paladin enthusiast. Ty

[@Toyhouze]

Awesome to hear

[@denome3725]

It is exactly because that the mages will no longer be able to boost that the few protection paladins will be able to ask for whatever price they want and do as many boosts as they want being able to boost from Stockades up to Stratholme almost easily with the proper gear which is not even hard to get. I mean, you have to consider that the current Classic prices will be converted into the TBC prices so the paladins will be able and will ask for so much more gold for boosting. p.s. this kind of farm so to speak that is practically relative to the realm economy is absolutely amazing

[@EcstasyXtz]

Really good guide. Exactly what I was looking for... you earned a sub and a like!

[@deadmanfredtv]

This guy has been very helpful I am level 31 and have kind of started to aoe grind Quest mobs feels like at 34 it would be very simple

[@deadmanfredtv]

I'm 41 a day later lol. Ya prot paladin is a little broken. People watch me pull 10 mobs and just say "WTF?" When I dont die

[@thekingchem8800]

@@deadmanfredtv where were you grinding?

[@deadmanfredtv]

@@thekingchem8800 I was hitting the spots he pointed out for like 1/2 of my level while doing some quests. The morlocks in swap of sorrows for example have 2 big quests associated with them. So 2 birds 1 stone. Also I farmed SM for the good pieces. Aoe pulling with mages using this build, the gnomergon shield with a mythril spike etc

[@1990exon]

I dont get how you dont die..i pull 4 mobs my level and get stomped. And i got a lot of AH gear and dungeon blues. No idea what im doing.

[@deadmanfredtv]

@@1990exon what level are you? I wouldn't try to do this until lvl 30 or even 35 (you really want holy shield) Make sure your never getting hit in the back. Also using the right seals for when you need hp or mana is critical.

[@semi2520]

Thanks for the Guide!

[@Toyhouze]

You bet!

[@instructorsara4105]

great vid, very very informative. i appreciate your cadence!

[@Toyhouze]

Thank you! I appreciate it!

[@danielwierman1121]

Awesome stuff man perfect video! Helped me out a lot

[@RS-chino]

Awesome video brother. Awesome.

[@Toyhouze]

Thank you so much man

[@baneleaf7025]

Nice detail, I would recommend a little more detal on talents and show maybe a full tree.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

Great guide, thanks

[@botched6518]

Great guide! I learned a lot. I may have missed this but what professions would you suggest for the AOE pally?

[@swiftjuice168]

The two best professions for a Protection Paladin regardless of role/play-style would be: Enchanting: - Farming: We can disenchant loot that would otherwise be pointless to sell to vendors because of low sale-price - Max-level: We can enchant our own rings with +12 Spell Damage or +4 All Stats which provides a bit of a boost Engineering: - We can make high-stamina trinkets (+45), one of the best helmets for raiding (Tankatronic Goggles), Dynamite, Ammunition for all of your Hunter buddies, various miscellaneous things like fireworks, etc.

[@Toyhouze]

Engineering has the force reflective disc while you level and big stamina trinkets as well as just nice utility items. Enchanting is my top pick though since you'll probably make your pally your gold farming character - being able to DE the loot for extra profits and you get the enchanting only ring enchants AND blood elves get plus enchanting skill as a racial.

[@botched6518]

@@Toyhouze Thanks for taking the time, I appreciate it. That makes perfect sense!

[@botched6518]

@@swiftjuice168 Thanks for the breakdown! I have some decisions to make.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@botched6518 To further cement this, you need to investigate what the other professions can provide you as a tank in terms of beneficial aspects: - Blacksmithing: There is only one item that is sought after by Protection Paladins (Boots of the Protector) that is Bind-on-Pickup. Any other item that we may be interested in are all Bind-on-Equip and we can just purchase them from the Auction House or random people selling in Trade Chat - Leatherworking: The main reason any player picks this profession up is for the Drums. However, Blizzard has already acknowledged issues surrounding them and may implement a change. We’re not completely sure if that’ll be a nerf or just a change - Jewelcrafting: This profession is actually held in high regard - it provides gems with more stamina (Generally +3 - +6 stamina) and allows for you to make a couple trinkets (Figurine - Dawnstone Crab / Figurine - Living Ruby Serpent) o In Phase 1, the epic +15 Stamina gems won’t likely be available to purchase, so the “Falling Star” (+18 Stamina, Blue Gem from JC) will provide a slight boost initially. However, the gem is unique, so only one can be equipped at any one time providing a bonus of +6 total stamina o “Figurine - Dawnstone Crab” increases defence rating by 32 and has an on-use effect to increase dodge rating by 125 for 20 seconds  You won’t need the defence rating since you will already have 490  You’ll already be at the crush cap as well (102.4%) in the gear I’ll link below o “Figurine - Living Ruby Serpent” (+23 Intellect & +33 Stamina => 345 Mana & 330 Health) and has an on-use effect to increase spell damage by 150 for 20 seconds  While nice to have, 345 mana won’t make-or-break you in terms of being able to use the appropriate spells at the right time  The stamina is lower than that of the Goblin Rocket Launcher (+45 = 450 Health)  If the spell damage were consistent, one could argue that this trinket would be worth a look, but unfortunately, it’s only on-use

[@SPOOSER]

Is this guide still valid as of 2022? I'm trying to get a Prot pally up asap and aoe leveling is my favorite thing to do. Thanks for the guide, have a great new year! :)

[@Zcyteck]

Very in-depth explanations of everything - I loved it. I have one question though... What do you AoE farm at 70, that is not the roof of Black temple? I can imagine it being impossible to find a grind spot, since ALL videos points to this place - aaaand a whole lot of people are rerollong protlols. Is there an alternative farmspot worth it, out here?

[@Toyhouze]

Great question. I'd say scholomance is a top pick. Tons of great drops there worth gold. Dark runes, disenchanting for mana oils which will be used. Runecloth will still be in demand. Probably other high level vanilla dungeons like strath will be good too.

[@Silmarieni1]

My experience at lvl 40, with only quest gear and no money to spend on upgrades and buffing consumables: forget it. Maybe I'll give it another try if I happen to loot great prot gear.

[@nickelodeann]

I plan on going prot to help gear my ret spec, through gold farming and heroics. How good of an idea do you think this is? Or will this cost of respeccing + the time to collect good prot gear make this not worth it? Thanks, really enjoyed the content.

[@CB-su3mx]

Thanks for the great guide, regarding aoe tanking dungeons, which levels do you aim for which dungeons?

[@amiraleeverran3653]

You didnt mention shield swaping when you reach the 5 stacks on the poison, then use flameshield. I dont think a debuff on ennemi would directly be linked to your shield being equipe. Then when debuff about to run off swap back and press holy shield =)

[@swiftjuice168]

If you were to be silly enough to use the “Petrified Lichen Guard” for AoE farming, and be lucky enough to apply all 5 stacks, and then switch to another shield you run into a very big problem: You have to BLOCK an attack, which means you’re risking the damage you built up because you likely won’t block in time.

[@amiraleeverran3653]

@@swiftjuice168 right now i go up to 20% block unbuff so with holy shield it's 50% and we're not in tbc yet, (wich will bring up more block chance) considering that you have at least half a dozen mob when aoe grinding, i would consider it safe to say you can reliably proc it in time, but to be fair idk how long it takes for the stacks to go down, and if the stacks go away if you change shield, but as it is a debuff on ennemi i think it should stay even with the swap. anyway, i will be testing it when tbc come out.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@amiraleeverran3653 A couple of things… 1.) In the Burning Crusade, your block % won’t necessarily increase as 20% is actually pretty darn good at level 70 in Pre-Raid gear 2.) In the Burning Crusade, every mitigation stat will be slightly increased 3.) On the Attack Table, your block comes after Miss, Dodge, and Parry 4.) The debuff lasts for 15 seconds (5 total ticks) 5.) You have a maximum of approximately 7 attacks to block over 15 seconds, and much less if you switch the shields in combat

[@joshuatucker2521]

@@swiftjuice168 if you're going to be so aggressive about it.. why don't you state what shield is better for AoE farming thru the 60s? Keep in mind, most of us are considering solo AoE farming.. not having someone to heal us. I know some Vanilla shields have better AoE abilities. But also have lower armor and block values which is important not to be pancaked in Outlands.. also some of the shields have much less durability. Curious what shield you think is better. Right now, my damage meter has not been reset in quite a while.. ran several dungeons, did several quests, did some AoE farming.. and my poison from the shield is accounting for about 7% of my overall damage.. and I have about 225 spell power. That's a nice damage increase, and you really notice it. The proc rate is awesome. Not sure where you're coming from with all this hostility.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@joshuatucker2521 I fail to see where my supposed hostility is in either comment, but okay. The best shield for AoE grinding at any level AND AoE farming is the Skullflame Shield. Let's look at the shields... Petrified Lichen Guard has a default Block Value of 62. It provides your enemies with a stacking debuff every time you block their individual attack. This debuff stacks up to 5 times, maxing out at 63 damage per tick (every 3 seconds) To achieve this, you need to block 5 attacks from EACH enemy in the pull. Each stack provides roughly 12 damage every 3 seconds. Now, the reality is that you will generally never see full stacks on every mob in your pull since they're more likely to die long before that happens. Skullflame Shield has a default Block Value of 53 - 9 less than the previous shield. Its first equip bonus is that it has a 3% chance when struck to steal X life from the target enemy. The tooltip says 35, but it scales very well with your spell damage. Theoretically, 1/33 attacks will proc this. On a pull with 10 mobs, that will come very quickly and it will seem frequently, too. It also provides a 1% chance to deal mediocre AoE damage when struck. As a Protection Paladin, I would NEVER suggest anyone focus on their Block Value while levelling. That number is completely useless for us. In fact, Level 70 Paladins don't worry about it, either.

[@renej8961]

Ok Wow, that's one informative Video, great stuff. And some Perspektives i didn't even think about. The only thing I'm not really shure about is the Bis list and a few item choices because I don't know if 5 points firedamage is really worth it, missing out on a better cape with Stamina and Intellect or Spell damage like the Cloak of the Betrayed. That offers +12 Int/ Stamina and 23 Spell Damage + a Yellow socked. But anyway thanks for the Video

[@Toyhouze]

Agreed the bis is off a bit. Glad you enjoyed it thanks man

[@elmerenguedefresa7097]

congratz for this perfect guide

[@jbreezy137]

The whole gameplay in the background u had concentration aura on the whole time

[@aggrobreaker]

Thanks for the video!

[@Toyhouze]

You bet!

[@beawinnerclutch1337]

very nice guide ! well done :)

[@borjasancho4341]

Much more fun than questing! And with midsummer fest you kill them so fast!

[@Oxfordbroski]

IMO, the Darkmoon card is better for lower level content where you just run through grabbing as many mobs as possible (stocks or SM for example), but figurine of the colossus is important for higher level stuff like Strat (where the healing is huge). Essence is more damage on average than Darkmoon (unless it can proc off of ret aura, would need to test that)

[@Toyhouze]

Yeah I totally agree

[@cameronstrathdee1772]

Fantastic video.

[@Toyhouze]

Thank you!

[@1G4M3R]

Thanks for this guide... help me a lot!!

[@Toyhouze]

Glad it was helpful!

[@getcarried8116]

my god... my eyes and the use of info..

[@Sid11358]

Essence of the pure flame only works when you take damage. If 100% of the damage is blocked (low level boosting) then it doesn't reflect 13 dmg.

[@Sid11358]

I imagine this applies to all similar effects (I know drillborer works this way) but I haven't tested thoroughly.

[@ericbarring4997]

Any tips for starting on Fresh servers as prot aoe? What consumes to use while lvling? Mana oil?

[@Kfo221]

Thanks! I was wanting a reason to see more boosting advertisments in trade chat and LFG! Thanks for making the game better! Wow! Thanks! Wow!

[@khiron9131]

Great job. Keep going bro. you informed me good.

[@swiftjuice168]

Your Hillsbrad Foothills grinding spot only works for Horde since, you know, there's Dwarves on Alliance, and Alliance can't attack them

[@Shrez4Games]

Let's do this bois! THX Toyhouze!!!

[@Toyhouze]

woot! lets roll! my pleasure man!

[@Resurrection824]

Thank you for this video I’m a little late to the game but I foresee this helping me out. What combat text addon are you using?

[@1337139]

uther's strength is actualy really nice for lower level dungeons like SM or stocks, for anyone who's wondering.. I use it in classic and have really solid uptime in stocks with it

[@1337139]

force of will is better tho if you have it :)

[@swiftjuice168]

@@1337139 Uther’s Strength provides a shield worth about 200-250 damage - these amounts will appeal to a lower-level Paladin (referencing your point of Classic) because you’re not as powerful as a level 70 Paladin (less Health and you’ll be taking more damage per hit) The other issue is that it only has a 2% chance to proc - so, with 100 attacks, you may see it proc twice. It’s interesting you say that Force of Will is better since it has only a 1% chance to proc and only reduces physical damage taken by 25 for 10 seconds, effectively reducing 250 physical damage. Realistically speaking, Uther’s Strength is superior in terms of farming/boosting. However, a level 70 Paladin should NOT use either of these if it means sacrificing level 70 trinkets (Goblin Rocket Launcher, Figurine of the Colossus, etc.)

[@1337139]

@@swiftjuice168 I don't disagree with anything you said.. these lower lvl trinkets dont hold a candle to the toys you get in TBC I was just sharing my experience leveling in classic as aoe prot pala + boosting with gear thats from 5 mans or 20 mans cause I dont raid on my alts, I cant wait to get my hands on some of those juicy trinkets+shields in tbc

[@swiftjuice168]

@@1337139 For a Paladin in Classic WoW, we’d be looking more at trinkets like “Essence of Eranikus,” “Talisman of Arathor,” “Ramstein's Lightning Bolts,” and the list can go on. The trinkets you linked aren’t necessarily bad or anything, but there are certainly better ones for farming/boosting easily obtainable outside of raiding.

[@Drevilkitteh]

@@swiftjuice168 Uthers is garbage for 1 simple reason. When you are shielded you won't proc on hit effects. No DFB, no FoW, no SFS etc. Fully absorbed attacks don't proc on hit effects. FoW is pretty good even though there are DR with Sanc. In SM/Stocks atm it FOW will reduce your damage taken by about 50% while its up and its up a lot. No CD. Fow or a high block chance are the only ways to do a stocks 1 pull in under 4 minutes.

[@damonmendrella2456]

Thank you for the vid

[@Toyhouze]

You bet!

[@MrTheatrick]

Oh sweet summer child you dont need all these extra dmg procs apart from the shield just get spellpower

[@MrTheatrick]

Allso there is a libram that increases concecrate dmg you wanna go for that one

[@PennyMachineMan]

It'd be nice if you could finish the talent tree up to 70

[@joellove6353]

Awesome video. You spent a lot of time on it and it shows!!@

[@cz75fanatic]

Everyone talking about Paladins for TBC Classic need to give love to Hobbs who is honestly the OG of this info.

[@Toyhouze]

I actually didn't even know about Hobbs until I saw madseason's video! But definitely he was the OG!

[@joellove6353]

Whatever I was doing this a week after tbc released and so were other paladins on my server. It's obvious.

[@OnyxAvalon]

idk if your info is correct or wrong because the info i got before was AOE is capped at 10 mobs regardless of damage. But because concecrated ground doesnt actually target any enemies, it targets the ground so it doesnt fall under the AOE cap restrictions

[@swiftjuice168]

Regardless of the number of mobs in a pull, they'll all take damage. It will just be heavily reduced damage as the number of mobs increase.

[@microburst3000]

@@swiftjuice168 nope

[@swiftjuice168]

@@microburst3000 Yes, yes they will.

[@microburst3000]

@@swiftjuice168 it doesn't affect concentration, hunter's traps, grenades etc.

[@swiftjuice168]

​@@microburst3000 I'm clarify something. The spells affected by the AoE cap will still affect ALL mobs in a pull - the damage ticks will be lower, but every mob will still be affected. My original comment was not directed at any one spell - simply the fact that regardless of the number of mobs in a pull, they'll all still be hit by the spell.

[@ZoezTV]

a final talent tree would have been nice to have

[@p0wersthatb469]

bump

[@djuqpl]

bump